Ukraine modernized the Shturm-S self-propelled anti-tank missile system

In Ukraine, the next modernization of the 9P149 combat vehicle of the Soviet self-propelled anti-tank missile system 9K114 "Shturm-S" has been carried out. The prototype was shown during a visit by the new Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister - Minister for Strategic Industries of Ukraine Oleg Urusky to the state enterprise Kiev Design Bureau "Luch".

As reported, a prototype of the 9P149 combat vehicle of the 9K114 Shturm-S self-propelled anti-tank missile system was created by specialists from the Luch Design Bureau. According to available information, testing of a prototype of the modernized complex is planned to begin in the near future.

According to the developers of the upgraded complex, the Shturm-S combat vehicle is equipped instead of the standard 9M114 ATGM with the RK-2V Barrier-V guided missiles developed at the Luch Design Bureau with a laser beam guidance system. The declared firing range of Ukrainian missiles is 6 kilometers. Another change is the use of a round-the-clock optoelectronic OPSN-I system developed by the Izium Instrument-Making Plant for target detection and missile guidance. The ball of the OPSN-I system is installed in the front of the vehicle and in the stowed position is closed by an armored flap, which leans back before firing.

The OPSN-I product, as stated, provides a target detection range of up to 14,5 kilometers, and from 6 kilometers it allows you to accurately identify the target. With a high probability, we can say that this product is still intended for aviation, but not for land vehicles.

Also, on the modernized version of the Shturm-S complex, laser radiation indicators and a system for setting up an aerosol curtain are installed.

Comments

[APASUS]

The OPSN-I product is expensive and requires serious knowledge, and even a moment:

A modern sight for military equipment was developed in the Kharkov region. The universal optical sighting station was created by specialists from the Izyum Instrument-Making Plant. Small in size, can be mounted on helicopters and drones. The device has laser guidance, which provides ultra-precise hitting the target. Serial production can start in 2020.

The optical sighting station (OPSN-I) was developed by the State Enterprise "Izium Instrument-Making Plant", which is part of the State Corporation "Ukroboronprom", the first and only one in Ukraine of this class.

Or it may not start ..................

[vkl.47]

This is a copy of the "chrysanthemum" only resembles a helicopter optics.

[Lexus]

This is a copy of the "chrysanthemum" only resembles a helicopter optics.

So is Urusky, as unlicensed, just the eyes are darker, a copy of our Borisov.

[venik]

Quote: lexus

So is Urusky, as unlicensed, just the eyes are darker, a copy of our Borisov. winked

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Pancake! Still did not understand - and in the photo, then WHO of them?
"Urusky" is HOW to understand - "U- (Ukrainian) Russian ????

[Lexus]

The prototype was shown during a visit by the new Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister - Minister for Strategic Industries of Ukraine Oleg Urusky state enterprise Kiev design bureau "Luch".

[Zoldat_A]

How not to "modernize" - all the same .... it turns out .... Ho hlyandiya, damn it ......

[Annihilator]

But what about "decommunization"? They refuse Russian holidays, they don’t want weapons? One word -..... (deleted by the moderator).

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Annihilator

One word -..... (deleted by the moderator).

That's just THIS and remains (what is deleted by the moderator) .....

[Lopatov]

Quote: vkl.47

This is a copy of "chrysanthemum"

No.
"Chrysanthemum" is an animal of a completely different level.

[Zaurbek]

We have such systems of our own ... so we must compare with them.

[Lopatov]

"Shturm-SM", "Shturm-SME"

The first for their own. Apparently, with the expectation of using the old 114 missiles, only radio control.

The second is for foreign customers. In addition to the radio, it is possible to install equipment for a laser-beam.

[Maz]

two years ago, "Chrysanthemum VM" is still a secret. 10 km

[venik]

Quote: Spade

No.
"Chrysanthemum" is an animal of a completely different level.

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It is rather a "modernized" 9M114 complex "Attack" / "Shturm".

[Lopatov]

Quote: venik

It is rather a "modernized" 9M114 complex "Attack" / "Shturm".

Come on, a completely different car.
It is rather a kind of development of the MT-12R "Ruta" with its radar sight

[uav80]

OPSN-I is also helicopter optics and they use UAVs ...

"Shturm-S" and "Chrysanthemum" are completely different machines. More precisely "Chrysanthemum" is a further development of "Sturm". The difference is that the "Chrysanthemum" has both a radar and an OPS, the caliber is 152, not 130, and it can shoot with a "doublet" at two targets simultaneously ...
Yes, also different chassis "Storm" on a motorcycle, "Chrysanthemum" on the basis of BMP-3.

[Lopatov]

Quote: uav80

More precisely "Chrysanthemum" is a further development of "Sturm".

No, this is a completely different machine, with radar target detection and automatic guidance of the missile by radio beam.

Well, optics with laser-beam missile control is a backup option. Among other things, it allows you to fire at two targets at the same time.

Initially, thermal imagers were not even installed on them, it was believed that the radar was enough for the eyes. But then they decided to slightly optimize the SPTRK for local wars, when the laser beam comes to the fore.

[Orange bigg]

Cool, they have landed a universal optical-sighting station for helicopters and drones.
"Kulibins" unfinished.

[Lopatov]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Cool, they have landed a universal optical-sighting station for helicopters and drones.

But the minimum development costs.
They still have nowhere to go, they obviously have no serviceable 114 missiles. They are not produced in Eastern Europe.

[Gloomy skeptic]

And there is still no statistics on how many maintenance personnel suffered from the tests of this "masterpiece" of the Ukrainian defense industry? I will modestly keep silent about the operation.
For example, about the mortar "Hammer" they say that it is very effective against their own calculations, much more than against the enemies of this "wunderwafele".

[Andrey the Magnificent]

"For example, about the Hammer mortar they say that it is very effective against their own calculations."
I also remembered about the "Hammer", the calculation of two soih laid down !?

[Gloomy skeptic]

More, during the tests, a couple of calculations were ruined completely up to the 200s, and in the ATO-OOS, there were also not isolated cases, although the iris already knew the "capricious" nature of this instrument and hovered in the cracks, and therefore in all cases, the calculations were not 100% defeated. But about the defeat of the enemy with this "hammer", while rumors did not reach because the mine is also flying mysteriously and unpredictably, so it is not a fact that in the direction in which the mortar was aimed.

[venik]

Quote: Grim Skeptic

For example, about the mortar "Hammer" they say that it is very effective against their own calculations, much more than against the enemies of this "wunderwafele".

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Lord! Even an ordinary PIPE cannot "roll out" normally ..... And this - country, where ships (including aircraft carriers), aircraft, launch vehicles were once built ........

[Gloomy skeptic]

They minus me - so the Ukrainians are massively jackals here ???

[Alexey-74]

Riveting single copies does not mean to launch a series. Besides, what else will the tests show? It is clear that they need to modernize the legacy of Soviet technology, but the resources for this are as necessary as the technological base.

[Tavi]

yes, NATO will not praise ...

[Romanenko]

A certain collective farm tank, with the world on a string - a naked shirt, is impressive

[The leader of the Redskins]

Here is one of 250 OCDs that were talked about in the morning and ended ... There are still 249 ...

[tralflot1832]

All the same, MTLB is a good thing, and I wish the Ukrainians that their OPSN-I remain in a single copy.

[Aaron Zawi]

In general, it looks quite serious.

[English tarantas]

In general, an ordinary Assault, but this canoe from a helicopter is like a saddle on a cow, looks like a child of two Lego constructors blinded one thing.

[svp67]

Strange, but Ukraine produced a very good sighting system for the "Chrysanthemum" ATGM system, what was the letter "X" marked with?

[agoran]

I doubt very much that in the country of the descendants of the ancient Sumerians they can produce anything efficient.
Designers from the times of the USSR are already retired, modern engineers have left for work either in the Russian Federation or in the EU.
Example:
- mortars of their own production kill their own.
- undertook to repair s-tov - not "shmogla".
- took up the supply of armored personnel carriers - welded seams parted.
For what the forelock will not undertake, it still turns out shit.

[lopvlad]

Ukraine modernized

after the "revolution of gidnosti" in Ukraine, if they undertake the modernization of military equipment, then it turns out a shahid-mobile, and if for the modernization of a weapon, it instantly turns into a weapon of a shahid.

[Zeev zeev]

An interesting idea, but it would be better to make the sighting system retractable on the bar so that you can shoot from cover. He pushed the guidance station out of the hillock (of course, painted in a normal color), identified the target, put a marker on it, and sniffed the missile without sticking out.

[MP]

You shouldn't have given them such an idea

[Lopatov]

Quote: ZeevZeev

An interesting idea, but it would be better to make the sighting system retractable on the bar so that you can shoot from cover. He pushed the guidance station out of the hillock (of course, painted in a normal color), identified the target, put a marker on it, and sniffed the missile without sticking out.

Too complicated.
It is necessary to bring the missile to the line of sight immediately after the launch. Which will be located in space each time in a different way.
And "difficult" means "unreliable"

[Zeev zeev]

What's so difficult? Guided aerial bombs and helicopter missiles have been in use since the 1970s.

[Lopatov]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Guided aerial bombs and helicopter missiles have been in use since the 1970s.

This is completely different.
This is not a target illumination for a semi-active laser seeker.
This is laser beam control. The receiver is in the stern of the rocket. Tula residents call this "laser trail" in their advertising brochures "for dummies".
Analogue of "Cornet"

[Zeev zeev]

I think that it is not so difficult to correct the movement of the rocket at the initial stage of the flight from the exit from the container to this "laser path".

[Lopatov]

Quote: ZeevZeev

I think that it is not so difficult to correct the movement of the rocket at the initial stage of the flight from the exit from the container to this "laser path".

Nobody has done this yet.
Moreover, even with a known position of the line of sight relative to the launcher, it is quite difficult, it was not for nothing that a wind sensor was installed on the "Shturm"

[Zeev zeev]

As far as I remember, "Sturm" originally had a radio command guidance system. And writing three commands to bring the missile into the line of sight is hardly a problem.

[Lopatov]

Quote: ZeevZeev

the "Shturm" was originally a radio command guidance system.

Yes.
And while the PU and the optical coordinator are separated. Which requires a more complex launch of the missile into the line of sight. So much so that even a wind sensor was installed

[Thorvlobnor IV]

For shooting from a forest belt along the field, which is a typical landscape for Ukraine, a barbell is optional. For a one-storey city building or a dug-in position - approx. But considering the enemy's reconnaissance drones, the position "in the bushes" is preferable to the "dug" one.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Torvlobnor IV

the position "in the bushes" is preferable to the "dug" one.

Yeah ....

The rocket is more likely to collide with bushes when launched.
See where the launcher is and where the aiming device is. The absence of anything in the field of view does not mean that there are no branches in front of the launcher and that they will not stumble upon it when launching the rocket.

[Zeev zeev]

Firstly, if the technique operates from an ambush, it will take half a minute to clear the branches. Secondly, what should be the branches so that they prevent the rocket from flying? The fuse will still not react to them, it is too early for cocking, the branch is unlikely to be able to destroy the rocket.

[Lopatov]

Quote: ZeevZeev

it will take half a minute to clear the branches

Where?
That is, aim, raise the launcher, get out of the car to visually see which branches to remove, and then clear the sector. Then start up.

Quote: ZeevZeev

what should be the branches so that they prevent the rocket from flying?

Quite thin.
The rocket clings to the plumage and begins to somersault.

Quote: ZeevZeev

The fuse will still not react to them, too early to cocking

And the engine is running ...

[Zeev zeev]

With me, they managed to shoot through the bush (not very thick, though) with an RPG-7 grenade. The grenade flew further and successfully hit the target, the bush did not even catch fire.

[garri-lin]

So swap PU and Sharik. At the same time, teach guidance / observation devices to see the rocket from the moment of launch and automatically bring it to the Trail. This is for the Ball on the mast.

[PalladaTomsk]

I wonder how the Ukrainian brothers made Urusky the minister if Russian is read in his surname)

[Ilya Nikitich]

Everything is possible there. Even Moskal was a minister there ...

[Prost Stas]

The modernization seems to use the RK-2P, and not the RK-2V, with a range of 7 km. And 6 km was a requirement of the Ministry of Defense for development (which Luch surpassed).