TsAGI announced the end of the life tests of the Il-112V aircraft

Resource technical tests of the Il-112V light military transport aircraft will begin in 2021 and will last, as planned, about two years. This was reported by the press service of the Zhukovsky Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI).

According to the report, during the life tests, the aircraft will undergo multiple loads simulating at least 5000 flights. Then he will undergo a set of static tests. TsAGI takes about two years for all this.

In addition, in the near future, work will be carried out to improve the design characteristics of the aircraft.

In the near future, joint work is planned to improve aerodynamics, design characteristics and refine the control system of future production aircraft Il-112V

- Said the press service.

As previously reported, the second copy of the Il-112V aircraft, assembled specifically for this in Zhukovsky, will take part in the life tests. This aircraft will not participate in flight tests, which will be carried out regardless of resource tests.

Work on the creation of IL-112V conducted with 2014 year. The Il-112B light military transporter is intended for the transport of personnel, weapons, equipment and other goods weighing up to 5 tons. In the future, the car will replace outdated An-26 and An-24 aircraft.

The first sample of the Il-112V, intended for flight tests, took to the air on March 30, 2019 and made three flight circles with a simulated landing. However, the aircraft did not meet the requirements of the Ministry of Defense for carrying capacity and was sent for revision.

Transport division enterprises aviation UAC will be ready for serial production of the Il-112V in 2022, the company said earlier.

Comments

[svp67]

Work on the creation of the Il-112V has been underway since 2014.

Don't be ridiculous ... They were RESUMED then, otherwise the work began in 2004, but then they were slowed down for the sake of Ukrainian-Russian cooperation ...

The Il-112V light military transport aircraft is designed to carry personnel, weapons, equipment and other cargo weighing up to 5 tons. In the future, the aircraft will replace the outdated An-26 and An-24 aircraft.

Not quite a full-fledged replacement is obtained ... having less powerful motors, but whose resource is higher, the An-26 carries MORE than 5 tons of cargo ...

Resource technical tests of the Il-112V light military transport aircraft will begin in 2021 and will last, as planned, about two years.

Isn't it possible to speed up work on this project? The second flight "112" was promised for the spring ... do you see the runway dug up at the plant in winter, it's already mid-summer and that the runway will be repaired?

[Swan]

Quote: svp67

then they were slowed down, for the sake of Ukrainian-Russian cooperation

And they profited for several years

[svp67]

Quote: Lebed

And they profited for several years

Science and personnel PROFUKI, that's what a pity. Something such a seditious thought, more and more visits, that "112" will not take off and will soon announce a new project.
And with us, the An-12 will soon be retired, and there is no plan to replace him at all ... all in words

[Swan]

Quote: svp67

more and more visits that "112" will not take off and will soon announce a new project.

Considering that the required characteristics have not been achieved, I would not be surprised. On the other hand, it is better to immediately admit that you made a mistake and start correcting, than to serially drive the imperfection.

[Lexus]

It is still unclear where the excess weight was decided to "lose" and what "came out" of "this" in the end. "Pregnant spawn" does not roll at all.

[venik]

Quote: Lebed

Considering that the required characteristics have not been achieved

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Well, there the glider is "overweight" by almost 2 tons !!! For an airplane of this class - this is a LOT !!! Well, it seems like 1 ton with "too much" has already been removed! The rest is not clear yet ...

[Dreamboat]

Well, experts came running to "beat themselves with ears on the cheeks." Where are your projects, gentlemen experts? Can I at least see a model at MAKS?
An airplane has never been built quickly, any new model requires trimming and rework. So in the Soviet years it was, when the design bureau was constantly developing new models, and now. Not everything can be calculated on a computer (and the programs themselves are brought up according to the results of gaining experience).
There is no World War II now, so that people can be imprisoned for "what happened", and brought up "in the series". A commercial aircraft must be competitive. Competitors have also been built and adjusted for years. So do not hesitate, the Il-112 will fly in spite of all whiners and idlers, and such as the military needs, and not a narrow-body (for this there is an Il-114). Work is also underway on the engines, don't piss ...

[VO3A]

It looks like the plane needs to be rebuilt, otherwise how can the aerodynamics be improved? Full span ... So you can see everything on the wing .... Well, at least they didn't rivet a lot, like Superjets for pulling, and they didn't break the civilian firm TU through the knee, they didn't plug their mouths, the lards from the budget didn't saw it ... got off with blood .... Or is it still ahead? Better not ... Admit your mistake and work forward ...

[svp67]

Quote: VO3A

It looks like the plane needs to be rebuilt

Sadly, it looks like it is ... there and in the fuselage there are several tons of excess weight ...

[Uncle Izya]

Yes, in 37, they would call it sabotage and who at the expense of whom on sharashki))

[Orange bigg]

Quote: VO3A

It looks like the plane needs to be rebuilt, otherwise how can the aerodynamics be improved? Full span ... So you can see everything on the wing .... Well, at least they didn't rivet a lot, like Superjets for pulling, and they didn't break the civilian firm TU through the knee, they didn't plug their mouths, the lards from the budget didn't saw it ... got off with blood .... Or is it still ahead? Better not ... Admit your mistake and work forward ...

Your words are correct for the An-178. There really needs to be altered everything. With the center of gravity, a mistake came out. In fact, a new plane needs to be made, including because of the many Russian components. The Il-112V, which you hurried to bury, has such there are no stocks as on the An-178. Work on the Il-112V is carried out thoroughly. Static tests and so on. So the plane (Il-112V) will be brought to mind. Do not hesitate.

[dauria]

So the plane (Il-112V) will be brought to mind

Up to the level of the Spanish C-295? Even the Kazakhs have already bought them. And all sorts of Canadians with Brazilians, Finno-Poles and Uzbek-Saudis. The whole world, in short.
And yes, they will bring and buy a couple of hundred for the RF Air Force. In civilian life, he has nothing to do with such "talents." Who is even the general designer of this miracle? Ostap -Bender Silvansky died a long time ago.

[Orange bigg]

Up to the level of the Spanish C-295?

Why not? They are building the serial Il-76MD-90A, although there were also many difficulties.

Even the Kazakhs have already bought them. And all sorts of Canadians with Brazilians, Finno-Poles and Uzbek-Saudis. The whole world, in short.

And what's next? The whole world. We must live with our brains, and not look at the supposedly whole world. The Chinese did not buy and the USSR did not buy. We must develop our production, and not like at the beginning of the XNUMXs we have oil and we use oil money. we will buy everything, but we will not produce anything. Aha. Sanctions dispelled these illusions, who still had them. We must be self-sufficient and not depend on someone's favor. Remember the story with the Mistrals. Time put everything in its place, but they themselves began to build the UDC. There is a silver lining.

In civilian life, he has nothing to do with such "talents."

For a citizen there will be IL-114-300, MS-21-300,
IL-96-400M. IL-112V light military transport aircraft.

[dauria]

We must live with our brains, and not look at the supposedly whole world

Well, since with your own, and even with your brains ... then the question is - what happened to the weight report, that a similar aircraft with the same dimensions, engines, LTX takes 9,5 tons, and ours only 5? This is not "slightly worse", this is a global fiasco.

[sg7s]

"seen from the wing" ... This is solid, I would say - "expertly" (we now have such ikspertov- darkness) ... Normal eroplane, straight wing, turboprop fans (it looks like PD-8 will adapt, at least the bark and hot part), the lengthening, coupled with the TVP, will give the norms for the range and flow ... What's wrong? Watermelons and Boeings haunt you? So there is more money invested than you can name the number of zeros (well, they print bucks and euros, we cannot ...) Calm down, calmly, we do what we can ... Yes, theft, yes, rotten bureaucrats, but ... Near replacement of the Yak-40, An-24, (legend- il-14 with ash-82T). Pilots-pilots are there ?? How do you shake from cruising - 345 km / h 4000 km? Without "Michael", with arc-9 (hello, titi-tati, have you forgotten?), Your ears already ached ... Li-2 (douglas), ATP to the queen, but the front pillar and voila- LEGEND of the Civil Air Fleet!

[VO3A]

"seen from the wing" ... This is solid, I would say - "expert" (we now have such ikspertov- darkness)

The wing is straight, narrow and in front. Did you teach aerodynamics? Or our cargo planes are aerodynamically unstable. Alyosha, you don't have to dirty yourself like that, and you should also draw conclusions about others .. aloud. Wrap around silently if you like ..

[sg7s]

Do you hear, Vasily? He taught flight dynamics and aerodynamics for FOUR YEARS, fives from Kosachevsky, Yusha in the best university in the USSR, honors, GAZPROMAVIA, drove the leadership (Rybkins, Vyakhirevs, Chubais, Alexis, etc.) Who are you ??? "Aerodynamically unstable" - there is a complete lack of knowledge of the subject, what is "unstable", you are in yourself. my friend ??

[VO3A]

The gray man in the street is thinking about an airplane, not knowing what it is ...

[sg7s]

Raid 8000, you mean me, may friend?

[VO3A]

I don’t believe, I took tests from pilots on a regular basis .., many friends of pilots ... They do not work as clowns on the forum ... I don’t hear an answer to the question about the stability of the aircraft in the longitudinal channel?

[sg7s]

Come on, take credit !! What kind of pilots do you accept? Aren't those jerks who burn people in shrm with goats? Bad brother, you ask. Come on offhand - lag-to the left, yak to the right-what is the essence of a corkscrew with one arrangement? "longitudinal channel" - what answer about the longitudinal stability will suit you - the fact that the focus of the aircraft behind the center of t. ? What's fifty dollars? How do you feel about the focus drift when M is close to unity? Draw a graph ??

[VO3A]

Airplane focus ? I said you were a clown! Is this all you have given birth to? And this with such bright verbal empty trills ?! I don't even have words !!!
DOES NOT COUNT YOU !!! The level of a cadet in the first year of study at an aviation technical institution ... It's not funny ... A technician on board will answer better ...

[sg7s]

Where did you study?? "clown" of the red diploma student avluga (I can send an extract - only THREE fours out of 77 ratings), gazpromavia, kvs, 2nd grade Who are you? Vasily, do not be ridiculous .. Now about the tricks ... The focus of the AIRCRAFT is the point of application of the total increase in the lift of the wing and the horizontal tail when changing the angle of attack. This is a wiki .. From myself I will add not only lift, but ALL forces that affect the dynamics of the flight ... Where did you study? Did you study other than high school? Damn, how many of these were hung on my neck, one strove to keep everything below the glide path, the other set 88 when the speed dropped, the third ... to talk for a long time, you ... (banned by Vadik) cannot be retrained. and it's not mine already ...

[VO3A]

Judging by the manner of expressing thoughts, you are a flyer from a transport plane at best ..., and even then you do not pull ...

[dauria]

Judging by the manner of expressing thoughts, ..

I'll get into your squabble. Can ?
Andrey, we just "hindly" see the failure. Obviously, the wide fuselage ate the weight and excess power of the engines. Therefore, the Spaniard S-295 is lighter. And to the Alenia C-27 with a wide fuselage, ours does not hold out in terms of engines - there are two of 4700 each against our 2 X 2800. Dead end. Or 4 engines, or wait for our new engines, or redo the glider. Or leave everything as it is - rivet a couple of hundred, the military will get off Losses - the people will pay.
But the other infuriates. We are in hindsight, and the general !!!! must know by eye how many kilograms such a "pipe", such a tail, such a wing will cost him. Why didn't he send three letters to the military, but got involved in it.
And you won't get an answer about the CG in front of the focus from your opponent.

[sg7s]

Judging by the manner of answering, you have nothing to do in aviation, because you do not understand people ... "Bortach" ... Hey, Vasily, how is it in the castrup to break through to the right, how to enter in Cyprus in paphos, how to dodge in Potsdam when entering, How to come to Karlovykh before the opening, how to dodge missilemen in Volgograd with a southern exit ??? I can continue indefinitely ... laziness ... rams ... In the army I ate such people before dinner in three ways ...

[sg7s]

That's for me ? How many flight hours, type, training? How many ports? They got it .. (Vadim, I'm sorry ..) Well, there are no normal words, only pee-pee (by the way, "titi-tati" you know, no? ARK-9 did not use ,,,, "the saw sings, go. Houses.ayda. decides, okay, blue.) something like this ...

[Alien From]

To the impossibility of disgusting, they shift to the right as they want, and bear no responsibility!

[Souchastnik]

Isn't it possible to speed up work on this project?

Returning to the text, then:

during the life tests, the aircraft will be subjected to multiple loads simulating at least 5000 flights

when dividing 5000 by 365, we get 14 per day, excluding holidays and weekends. That is, it is necessary to carry out 14 experiments with loading the structure, and not as a member to distort back and forth. And taking into account the duration of the loads. People in TsAGI also want to rest. And they don't work around the clock. It is only in the army that you can give the command "I don't know how, but so that everything will be there by morning." Well, taking into account other factors, 2 years is a real time.
It's not convenient for me to tell you about this, given the headdress depicted on the avatar.

[Aag]

How did everyone do it before?
Yes, ALL fucking! (Including myself) Seeing what is happening, their hands fall ...

[Servisinzhener]

Judging by the materials read about the creation of aircraft, it happened very differently in Soviet times.

[Souchastnik]

How did everyone do it before?

Previously, too, resource tests were not carried out for a week. Earlier (i.e. under the USSR) they took a very responsible approach to aviation safety issues.

[vkl.47]

I work at TsAGI and don't know what is going on. I suspect that the plane in Tupolev is in the hangar

[turishev]

Runway done - one week left to debug ground equipment

[svp67]

Quote: turishev

Runway done - one week left to debug ground equipment

At least one good news against the general background ...

[senima56]

I absolutely agree with you! For a long time I have been closely following this "topic", and in general the development of our Russian aircraft industry.

[Courier]

We need to get C 130 and copy it.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Courier

We need to get C 130 and copy it.

The aircraft C 130 is of the wrong class to compare it with the Il-112V. An analogue of Hercules should be the Il-276 with a carrying capacity of 20 tons.

[dauria]

The aircraft C 130 is of the wrong class to compare it with the Il-112V.

You see, if you compare the IL-112 with the full analogs of the C-295 or Alenia C-27 type, you immediately need to ask “Where did the five tons of load go with all the rest being equal?” They either made a glider from wet boards, or from cast iron.

[Aag]

I would like to hear the arguments of those who minus you. For, having reached "5t" in the article, I got into Wikipedia, excuse me ... What kind of equipment will it transport? Why is it better than the An-26? Does it take longer? We saw longer, more sawdust?

[Aag]

And let the people working on the project do not be offended, but realize that often, according to the situation, we rely not on the result, but on the process. By the way, stepping aside, on other topics, one of the regulars of this forum accused me of the fact that I did not notice that we have been living under capitalism for a long time. NO! Not under capitalism. Again we are going our own way: we have collected everything, preserved part of the utopia from socialism, we have turned the worst manifestations of capitalism, and with all this we are rolling into feudalism, or even deeper into history ...
I apologize for the separation from the topic. IMHO: it is interconnected, I cannot find another explanation.

[svp67]

Quote: Courier

We need to get C 130 and copy it.

It was much simpler and cheaper for "Antonov" to get hold of projects ... he then designed airplanes for our components and the capabilities of his, and therefore our factories ...

[Servisinzhener]

The C-130 has a Soviet counterpart to the An-12.

[Andylw]

another disgrace, an example of cutting, degradation of the domestic design school and theft.
compare the ancient an-26 with a carrying capacity of 5,5 tons and this "newest" homunculus with new, 500 horses more powerful engines and a carrying capacity of 3 tons (((
after the scandal on the first pilot in a year of work, we raised the carrying capacity to 4 tons and buried ourselves in the ceiling (((

[donavi49]

Well, it is not correct to compare, all the same aircraft of different types.

An, this is closer to the Spanish Watermelon. That is, an economical and good body, into which the armored car will not enter.

Native MO back in the distant years, apparently successfully visited the air show, otherwise it mastered the business trip, and prescribed the requirements, a la RussoSpartan, only the engines are thinner, therefore, all the characteristics sailed into weak engines. Yet on the original, R-R is a thousand more horses each.

Spartan, in fact, has the main advantage in the fact that it carries some Ivek calmly. The Ministry of Defense also wanted a fat man, the Il-112V came out. The Spaniards, however, initially relied on the fact that armored cars swell both in weight and in size. Yes, and you almost never need to carry 1 piece, among the urgent tasks. But you need to carry pallets, various boxes and equipment all the time. It's also nice to add all sorts of multifunctional chips, like a quick installation of a human cabin for a long-distance flight. Well, all this can be accommodated in the case of a regional turboprop. As a result, a bomb came out, a hit in the market.

The Italians still cannot sell a hundred cars.
Already at this stage everything is sad for Il.
C295, on the other hand, fly like cakes, already under 200 delivered and an extensive list of orders.

[svp67]

Quote: donavi49

An, this is closer to the Spanish Watermelon. That is, an economical and good body, into which the armored car will not enter.

Weighing 5,3 tons, there is no place in our "112" and "Tiger", and the BA-64, has long been removed from service

[donavi49]

He will carry the arrow. Well, the whole concept is a failure - now the trend is to increase the size (mine protection) and weight. There is the same MaxPro with which 13 tons are chasing in Syria, Oshkosh with a 12t armor kit. LMV 2 (Iveka, who is a Lynx in the new generation) - has grown heavier up to 8100 kg, which forces Spartan to strain all forces and introduces severe restrictions on the band and range (for these are practically maximums).

Therefore, the Spaniards are handsome, predicted that it makes no sense to make a salon for an armored car in this segment, and won on an optimized fuselage in terms of economy, required power, etc.

[Pilot1974]

Redesigned ... I think that the same parsley with the MS-21. Back in 2018. the first cars were supposed to enter Aeroflot, but it still has not received a certificate. What do you want when run by a show producer and statistician with effective managers?

[Orange bigg]

Everything is in order with the MC-21. It's not the first year that it has been flying. It's just that no one needs a competitor in the West, so they drag out certification, and they impose sanctions just to keep them out of the market. Even Americans praise the MS-21, that's why they put obstacles. The plane was a success. on the fan. What are you trying to do? To make it look like in Ukraine, where everyone eaten in a known substance is forever bogged down with their Maidans, in fact degraded to the level of underdeveloped African countries?

[VO3A]

OK ? He is needed on the internal lines yesterday ... You have a good order ... Did you get the pie? You can't put someone else's generators and pumps on PD-14, you can't power someone else's power system ... You can't stick someone else's air and air conditioning system .. Do you think it's so easy to put your engine on an airplane? This is not your level of African countries ..

[Orange bigg]

you can't power someone else's energy system ...

Energy system. Although if you are from Ukraine, then you can.

This is not your level of African countries ..

Agree, your level (that is, the level of one neighboring country ).

[VO3A]

I'm from the Don, write on your forehead ... From the military estate, twice Russian, the mainstay of the country ...

[Orange bigg]

Yanukovych or what?

[VO3A]

What else can you do? No knowledge, no experience, no mind either .. Ordinary TROL ... Dummy, do you earn authority among your own with barbs?
Well, I'll get an extra ban !!! I won't lose it ...

[sg7s]

Oh oh oh !!!! African ... What's wrong with the PD-14? Kore, knd, kvd, ks, tvd, tnd,? More specifically, you can or blah blah ?? You cannot immediately understand the Chubais-German stupid mediocrities ... How to remove all the prostitutes in Smolensk (damn, they left no one) - yes, you are the first, but how to stand up for the country - crap right there ...

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: OrangeBigg

What would it be like in Ukraine, where all the food in a known substance forever got bogged down with their Maidans, in fact degraded to the level of underdeveloped African countries?

Do you itch Ukraine? Not tired of telling scary tales about Ukraine? Do you know these noodles are no longer hanging on people's ears. Work more, drank less, achieve results and it will not be like in Ukraine. In the meantime, you are so effective and are preparing this very Ukraine on the sly.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

Quote: VO3A

Well, at least they didn't rivet a lot, like Superjets for pulling, and they didn't break the civilian firm TU through the knee, they didn't plug the experts' mouths, they didn't saw lard from the budget ...

It looks like an evening of cool stories has begun, well, let's talk about the lards, experts and the civilian firm TU, I'm all in the spotlight. Just do not say the usual phrases: "so everyone knows this", "yes this is a no brainer", "pissed away polymers, the brains are gone, there are not enough hands, there is no money .... but you hold on" :)

[Orange bigg]

Most likely we are dealing with a purely Ukrainian approach to aviation. The main thing is not to rivet a lot of aircraft, but to make only one prototype and search for at least some buyer for a long time and in the end never find. An-132, An-178 as an example. Who are these planes for? For show, what? Where is the Superjet, the release of which went to 3 hundred.

[sg7s]

"the hedgehog is not at all in courses, the brains seem to be in place" ... About the Tu company - I can bark with responsibility - weak eroplanes .. a fifty-dollar - a very (illiterately said, but nevertheless) a strict plane, if not for NK - all it would be like in Sochi B-3 with an ensemble ..... Myasishchevskys (that's where the talents are), Yakovlevskys, dry ones were simply crushed by the authority of Tupolev, well, it didn't work ... Move away, no, feather like a ram (stupid ram) at the gate! not yours, don't ... go to the LII, find old people, they will tell you a lot ...

[Volzhanin64]

Yesterday on the Zvezda channel I watched the creation of the Mi-4 helicopter. The government set the task of Mil Design Bureau and Yakovlev Design Bureau to create a helicopter in 12 months. Already after 7 months, taking into account the work on fine-tuning the machine, it made flights, and the next year it was put into service. Before that, it was said that the designers were tasked with creating a light all-wheel drive all-terrain vehicle. This took 4 months. After 3 months the car was sent for testing.
Something needs to be changed in the "Conservatory". Either people were smarter and more efficient then, or they simply did not "master the budget"

[avia12005]

Nobody remembers the long-suffering replacement of the great An-2 yet. And there the horse did not stand at all, although this "horse" should already fly in September.

[Aag]

Now you will be showered with minuses (you do not understand anything about aircraft construction, and in general you have no such thing left in (on, they will register in Ukraine)! Adepts of Solovyov ...
I asked a similar question above. I suspect the answers are political reasons. Sadness ...

[donavi49]

That is, they will not receive a certificate until at least 23 years of age. Taking into account additions, delays, various force majeure, objectively it is 25 years old (under the tree in 2026), the delivery of the first boards and the beginning of operation.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Perhaps everyone who scolds the IL-112 and its creators is right in some way. But I really like this airplane! I wish its creators successful work, less zakovyk, quickly raise it into the air and put it into production !!!

[Imperial Technocrat]

The X-32 could still be attached ...

[Orange bigg]

Where exactly do you want to attach? It will definitely not work on the wing. The X-32 weighs almost 6 tons. The IL-112V has a carrying capacity of 6 tons. That is, theoretically, it can be attached, but to what place, excuse the immodesty?

[Alex 2020]

Work on the creation of the Il-112V has been underway since 2014.

The Il-112V program started in 2002, when the Russian Air Force announced a competition for the creation of a promising light military transport aircraft with a carrying capacity of 5-6 tons, which was to replace the aging An-26 in state aviation. And since that time, every year they promise everything and promise that soon, today, tomorrow it will act ..., we will launch it ... And so everywhere. It's a shame for the country.

[Aag]

Well, really, the timing, dates do not frighten? 2002! 18 years have passed! "Russian harnesses for a long time" - does not channel !!! Who will count the losses? The question is not for those who work, pretending to work, work hard (for ... not adequate salary), but to those who created such a situation. In this regard, I am not a "cook who knows how to rule the country." But, I know for sure, -so it SHOULD NOT be.

[bars1]

Quote: Alexey 2020

The Il-112V program was launched in 2002,

But then it was stopped in favor of the An-140T, support for cooperation with the aviation industry, the brotherly people, damn it.