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Ukraine wanted to return the Russian military to the JCCC in Donbass

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Ukraine wanted to return the Russian military to the JCCC in Donbass

The Kiev authorities wanted to return Russian officers to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of Ceasefire Issues and Stabilization of the Line of Delimitation of the Parties. This was announced by the Vice Prime Minister for the Reintegration of the "temporarily occupied territories" of Ukraine Alexey Reznikov.


Ukraine hopes to return Russian officers to the JCCC, Reznikov said. According to him, this could help in the introduction of a permanent ceasefire in the Donbas.

We hope that the work of the JCCC and the Russian officers will be resumed, the military will return to its composition, because, based on the experience of other military conflicts, the mechanism is working

- Hromadske quotes Reznikov's words.

At the same time, the Deputy Prime Minister emphasizes that Russia does not refuse to participate in the JCCC, but "puts forward its own specific conditions," which are now being discussed. But, he notes, there is also a diplomatic path that allows Russian officers to work in the Joint Center.

Recall that the Joint Center for Control and Coordination (JCCC) began work in September 2014. It consisted of 76 Russian officers, 39 of whom were in the territory controlled by Kiev. At the end of 2017, Russia withdrew its military from the JCCC due to provocations from Ukraine.

At the same time, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not rule out the return of Russian representatives to the JCCC, but called a change in Kiev's position towards the Russian military as the main condition.

Earlier, Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron called for the return of Russian officers to the JCCC.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 July 2020 08: 37 New
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    There will be no swarm from this ... Nothing! Perhaps, somewhere in world practice, these joint commissions helped, but, as far as I remember, in Donbass, they did not.
    1. Maz
      Maz 28 July 2020 08: 45 New
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      Most likely, they are preparing a grandiose provocation, such as Boeing, but they need our military to be in the zone, and to shift everything onto them, or maybe destroy and substitute. Let's remember a Polish radio station in 1939. Here, too, but to the contrary. You cannot trust the Sumerians. You say Sumer, but in your mind you keep the CIA from the United States.
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 28 July 2020 08: 58 New
        +4
        So add there military German and French for persuasiveness.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 28 July 2020 09: 15 New
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          Quote: Siberian
          So add there military German and French for persuasiveness.

          Us and blind-deaf-dumb OSCE people, with head yes .

          From your side, Siberian a very common misconception has been demonstrated that by increasing the number of observers one can achieve some sane and stable result.

          But in the case where one side (Outskirts) is not initially aimed at settlement, this does not work. no
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 28 July 2020 10: 04 New
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            But in the case where one side (Outskirts) is not initially aimed at settlement, this does not work

            surprisingly, even the authors of smart articles on the Internet do not understand this. Ukraine has earned a bunch of sanctions for a long time, and where?
          2. Siberian
            Siberian 28 July 2020 15: 49 New
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            I have no delusions. Ours were recalled from there so as not to expose unnecessary risks. Several people must live in the camp of the enemy, where their safety is not guaranteed. No, not at all. What will come to these shaking patriots in their heads, the authorities and the police are powerless there. So let the rest of the guarantors of Minsk take part, not only by demands and giving advice.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 28 July 2020 17: 18 New
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              Quote: Siberian
              I have no delusions. Ours were recalled from there so as not to expose unnecessary risks.

              This incorrect understanding of the reasons for the termination of the participation of Russian officers in the JCCC is already a delusion in itself ...


              The reason was not the risk, but not the desire of the Ukrainian side to have a controller ...
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      2. antivirus
        antivirus 28 July 2020 09: 00 New
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        then our observers, gasmen and oilmen, must also enter the pipelines of the outskirts. And the metallurgists from Mordashov will be Pinchuk and Akhmetov to "graze"?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 28 July 2020 09: 21 New
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          Quote: antivirus
          metallurgists from Mordashov will Pinchuk and Akhmetov "graze"?

          These goats, by the horns, and immediately to the slaughter yes
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 July 2020 08: 49 New
      +1
      Ukraine wanted to return the Russian military to the JCCC in Donbass
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      There will be no swarm from this ... Nothing!


      Considering the "adherence to principles" of the Outskirts in fulfilling their obligations - Yes .

      But nevertheless, the officers of the JCCC from our side, and did not stop their activities, at least during the period of 2018-19, in the Yasinovataya area, a minibus in colors and with the designation "JCCC"
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 28 July 2020 09: 23 New
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        officers of the JCCC ..... the abbreviation turned out to be somewhat awkward, reminiscent of natural need for little, which could not even be called the Monitoring Council. which in general it is ...
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 July 2020 08: 39 New
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    They can't do anything without ours ... laughing But seriously, they need an "overseer", honest and principled. And then somehow the boundaries between truth and lies are "blurred".
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 July 2020 08: 48 New
    +2
    At the end of 2017, Russia withdrew its military from the JCCC due to provocations from Ukraine.
    They will enter back. And again "synezhuppaniks" will start provocations against the Russian military. Neither the assurances of Reznik or even Zelensky will help. Here everything is decided by the Haidamaks, Terbats and "Beletsk-Semenchenki" who, in the presence of the Russian JCCC group, will find it difficult to engage in provocations, terrorist attacks and robberies.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 July 2020 08: 52 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Here everything is decided by the Haidamaks, Terbats and "Beletsk-Semenchenki" who, given the presence of the Russian JCCC group, will have a hard time dealing with provocations, terrorist attacks and robberies.

      That you sho! Well, they will be able to put their hand on the Bible and say: "Yes, there were Russian soldiers in the Donbass." And then add: "They are occupiers"
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 July 2020 10: 50 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        "Yes, there were Russian soldiers in Donbass." And then add: "They are occupiers"

        Well, yes, "Russians have occupied Donbas, and are waging a war with Ukraine."
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 28 July 2020 08: 55 New
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    Ukraine hopes to return Russian officers to the JCCC, Reznikov said

    How can Ukraine want the return of the Russian military to the JCCC if it is at war with the Russian Federation? And everything just turned out:
    Earlier, Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron called for the return of Russian officers to the JCCC.

    Couldn't refuse good people?
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 28 July 2020 09: 41 New
    +1
    There would be a benefit from that ..... but on this occasion there are just doubts.
  6. iouris
    iouris 28 July 2020 10: 27 New
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    Participation in the JCCC is no longer relevant. Kiev separatists did not appear at the "Minsk trial" and have not even read the text yet. In addition, Russia has major internal problems.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 July 2020 10: 44 New
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      Quote: iouris
      In addition, Russia has major internal problems.

      A-I-I-I-th !!! What to do what ,where to run request ? I have a kid, I went to visit by bus today, into the very abyss of problems - Moscow. laughing
  7. agoran
    agoran 28 July 2020 11: 01 New
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    Quote: iouris
    Participation in the JCCC is no longer relevant. Kiev separatists did not appear at the "Minsk trial" and have not even read the text yet. In addition, Russia has major internal problems.

    What are these problems? Please clarify what you mean. I live in the Russian Federation, I don't see any problems.
    1. iouris
      iouris 28 July 2020 19: 59 New
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      Quote: agoran
      I live in the Russian Federation, I don't see any problems.

      And, for example, M. Leontiev sees, and N. Mikhalkov.
      Let's continue. Georgia staged a war with the Russian Federation, a hostile regime has been established in Kiev and has comfortably existed for more than six years ($ 15 billion returned?), Which does not hide that its goal is the destruction of the Russian Federation, Denmark prohibits the export of gas from the Russian Federation, the United States arrests property and citizens of the Russian Federation, Zuckerberg "closed" the information channel "Tsargrad", guided by US law and ... nothing. I think that only all of the above already indicates the existence of huge internal problems. The "partners" are waiting for the RF to "change" so that ....
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 July 2020 11: 06 New
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    Earlier, Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron called for the return of Russian officers to the JCCC.
    These "guarantors" of "Minsk" would be better off not turning the arrows to Russia, but at least somehow influencing the Ukrainian side. There would be more benefits. Having become guarantors, they cynically put on this business, and even blatantly accuse the Russian side of non-compliance with some agreements, although we are on completely equal terms with them - the guarantor. The fact that the Ukrainian side suddenly began to fuss and started talking about the return of Russian officers to the center causes, to be honest, distrust and strained in anticipation of some next dirty trick.
  9. Burdock
    Burdock 28 July 2020 11: 07 New
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    In Donbass, the situation will change ahead of the presidential elections in Ukraine. In one direction or another, but it will change. Before that, everything will be as it was before.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 July 2020 13: 44 New
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      Quote: Burdock
      In Donbass, the situation will change ahead of the presidential elections in Ukraine.

      I think that it will depend not on the presidential elections in Ukraine, but on the US presidential elections.
  10. Cristall
    Cristall 28 July 2020 11: 22 New
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    if the author had carefully listened to all of Reznikov's interviews, he would have made a conclusion in the article why.

    especially about the biometric data of Russian mission officers ...
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 28 July 2020 14: 14 New
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      egezh, on the mouthpiece of the Maidan - Khromadsky, there really go and go off scale
  11. Operator
    Operator 28 July 2020 12: 40 New
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    The United States completely surrendered Ukraine to Russia - in the hope of gaining our support in the conflict with China bully
  12. aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 28 July 2020 12: 42 New
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    Beware of downsizing the gifts of those who ask! After all, a little something, not according to their scenario will go: the Russians will be the scapegoats !!! Each military person, participant of the ente event - the status of a diplomat.
  13. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 28 July 2020 18: 42 New
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    I wonder what it means they want to return, the Russian military obey them? To end this civil war, it is necessary to eliminate the outskirts and its svidomites
  14. Alexander Barinov
    Alexander Barinov 29 July 2020 20: 02 New
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    Sorry, however, this it is Olexiy, and neither Aleksey is part of the ethnic group Ukraine *, from the kind *.