The possibility of using S-500 "Prometheus" missiles for "escorting ICBMs" is being considered

The Russian Armed Forces are preparing to put into service the latest S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile systems. Moreover, this is the case when weapon can no longer be called an exclusively air defense weapon. According to publicly available data, the S-500 missiles have a combat range of at least 100 km longer than the S-400 Triumph complex, while they are capable of intercepting enemy supersonic missiles.

One of the discussed capabilities of the newest Russian complex S-500 "Prometheus" is anti-satellite. If we believe the previously announced data on the parameters of the altitude of destruction of targets by the Prometheus missiles, then it is quite capable of coping with satellites located in the so-called low orbits, including a low reference one. An example is satellites with an altitude of about 200 km above sea level. Another question: is it planned to use the S-500 "Prometheus" precisely as a means of fighting enemy satellites? As one of the options, it may be quite suitable, but to focus on this, the probability is much lower.

Earlier, the Western press discussed such a hypothetical possibility of the Russian S-500 "Prometheus" complex as a "cover for launched intercontinental ballistic missiles." The logic was as follows: S-500 missiles can counter anti-missile missiles that try to intercept ICBMs in near space. That is, the S-500 in this case is already considered as a kind of anti-missile weapon.

But, if we discuss this "logic", then so far it looks more like science fiction. The range of use of the S-500 missile, although it is long, will in no way allow it to "accompany" an ICBM if it is used against an enemy, taking into account the distances covered by the ICBM. To organize such "escort" as a cover for ICBMs from missile defense systems, it is necessary to build a whole chain of S-500 complexes along the entire projection of the intended flight path of ICBMs. Today this can only be possible theoretically. Much more obvious is the possibility of using the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system as a means of protecting silo-based ICBMs from possible enemy missile strikes. However, an important aspect is that Russia is quite capable of finding an "antidote" to the US missile defense system being built, which is actually aimed at violating the nuclear-missile parity that has been built for decades. And this "antidote" can be so-called asymmetric. The development of multipurpose air defense systems (anti-aircraft) - missile defense (anti-missile) - PSO (anti-satellite defense) is an important component in this matter.

Comments

[rocket757]

Interesting nearby ... although, there is nothing special to intercept our ICBMs in the range of enemy interceptor missiles. They are planning all this a little further. This is if we consider it in relation to the main enemy.
In general, the concept is not very clear.

[Thrall]

Anecdote on the rocket theme from Yuri Nikulin:

[rocket757]

As for the Russian goodness, death for the striped whale!

[venik]

Quote: Thrall

Anecdote on the rocket theme from Yuri Nikulin:

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According to the same Yuri Nikulin - the most FUNNY anecdote - an anecdote told ON TIME and IN THE TOPIC !!!

[Insurgent]

Quote: rocket757

In general, the concept is not very clear.

With the concept of the areas of use of the S-500, everything is most likely in order, it is just obvious that the presentation of the material in the article is slightly vague and therefore the purpose of the complex is not even approximately defined.

[rocket757]

Just what the author of the article wanted, wanted ...

[Vicontas]

In principle, it is possible to arm ICBMs with defensive missiles. Reduce nuclear blocks or, more simply, replace one nuclear block with a revolving container with a set of small-sized missiles so that ICBMs can "fight off" the harassment of enemy anti-missiles! It is possible not to touch the nuclear blocks, but to mount everything on the fairing, but this is only suitable for mobile complexes - the dimensions in the mine will be violated.

[SAG]

In principle, it is possible to create, but do not forget to add a couple of radars watching the lower hemisphere (to close the blind sector created by the plasma) guidance systems and adjusting the flight from the shifted center of mass after the release of the anti-missile. The overhangs from the radar will disrupt aerodynamics; all steps need to be increased for additional fuel. Then the mass of the rocket will grow several times - it will be necessary to increase the size of the mines. Well, or as an option, the range will decrease to a medium radius

[NEXUS]

Quote: rocket757

In general, the concept is not very clear.

I am wondering what the Anglo-Saxons Sarmat, Vanguard and Petrel will be able to intercept in the next 10 years? Moreover, the Vanguard is already on duty, and the Sarmat is about to be accepted ... and then the question is, why should we cover our hyperspeed maneuvering units?

[rocket757]

This is to the author of Idei. I don't understand either.

[Satanator]

it makes sense to cover in the active area when the rocket is accelerating

[Thunderbolt]

Got it , but why should the military three hundred Ginger be attracted to such a deluge? Well, choose a spectacular picture of an explosion in space. Let there not be a SECRET S-500 installation, but it will be tempted ... okay, I did not choose nine C fifteen. Of course I understand that not all served abroad, and maybe they did. But ... it's not for me to teach you, but in connection with the periodic "jambs" from the side of ensuring the creative process of the great publication. YOUR OWN ...? But, the S-500 is the S-500, and the city does not hear the complex smelling of "Ginger".
Silence and darkness
It's time for SCARS
three seconds before attack
We are related by fate!
In close dress
there is no such place
Where we have not seen
Your stealth
And then there, for ginger
If you need to fly into the enemy and chili
Nuclear chile
AUGs in the grave and only
station "Ginger"
/ She is beautiful as Siberia /
Sweeps to the edge! Oooh !!!

[Mikhail m]

A thought, of course, cannot be killed, but to express it a little more clearly there is an opportunity to find it.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Michael m

A thought, of course, cannot be killed, but to express it a little more clearly there is an opportunity to find it.

It turns out that not everyone is given this.

[JIaIIoTb]

Stormbreaker, I read you and realized that you met with an American rocket. Do you even have a snack or something Sorry for the familiarity.

[venik]

"....Earlier in western press discussed and such a hypothetical possibility of the Russian complex S-500 "Prometheus" as "cover for issued ICBMs"..."
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Aha! SAMs will run next to the ICBM, like watchdogs, and when they see some kind of "broken" atiraketa, they will immediately pounce on it and "tear like Tuzik a heating pad"
These idiots so intimidated themselves with the "Russian threat" that they are ready for any delirium that they themselves have invented! How can we not remember James our Forrestal, who was so obsessed with the unwinding of the "Russian threat" that he ended up leaping from the 6th floor of the "fool" with a cry "Russian tanks are coming!" [i] [/ i]

[vVvAD]

No, here the logic is just the same - it is typically Western, Jesuit: since the S-500 can cover the released ICBMs, it means that it is already a weapon of attack, not defense. And if so, then you need to remove it from the ICBM launchers.
And more screams in the media and condemnation at all world sites!
At the very least, it can be inflated into a reason for sanctions. As a maximum - to expose our silos for the first strike and / or the destruction of ICBMs in the acceleration area during a retaliatory launch. In short - a win-win option.

[ficus2003]

Who writes this garbage?

while they are able to intercept supersonic enemy missiles

Yah??!!

The Russian Armed Forces are preparing to put into service the latest S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile systems.

For 5 years he is about to enter and no one even saw him in general and he did not even pass the tests, there are only reports of OBS (one grandmother said) that someone had somehow experienced something somewhere.

[KCA]

Yah? Did you know about the existence of A-035, A-135 and A-235? Do they intercept targets at a speed of about 100 km / h? I thought that they were faster than 30MAX, at least they flew, and of course, these developments could in no way affect the development of missiles for the S-500

[askort154]

The range of use of the S-500 missile, although it is large, will in no way allow it to "accompany" an ICBM if it is used against an enemy, taking into account the distances covered by the ICBM.

This implies something else. Not to accompany the ICBM from A to Z, but to cover its launch at the acceleration stage, on which the American missile defense system relies.

[Mikhail m]

I wonder what missile defense system can reach a missile launched from the territory of Russia within 2-3 minutes of the active section of the trajectory? Please exclude lasers from consideration. their effect is neutralized by swirling the warhead. And the interceptor missiles should take off half an hour before the start. Or circle around.

[D16]

I wonder what kind of missile defense system can reach a missile launched from the territory of Russia within 2-3 minutes of the active section of the trajectory?

We have a naval component of the strategic nuclear forces. If the S-500 is placed on ships that do not exist yet, then he could well cover the OUT of missiles with SSBNs.

[stels_07]

We have a quantitative lag in all the marine theaters, the ship s500 will be oversaturated

[D16]

We have a quantitative lag in all the marine theaters, the ship s500 will be oversaturated

To oversaturate what is not so easy. But if this option appears on 22350M, then it will take a long time to draw circles on the map. Bulava has the shortest OUT. That is, in order to shoot down this missile before it turns into 3-6 individual guidance blocks and a bunch of false targets, you need to come close to the launch site and, accordingly, substitute for very fast anti-ship missiles. So everything is not so simple here ... This ship would be that thorn that would not allow approaching the SSBN positional area and firing at launching missiles.

[stels_07]

It makes more sense to place more ICBMs in Siberia

[Knell wardenheart]

There is no need to make a universal folding knife out of air defense / missile defense :-) Let yourself be engaged in these 2 duties and stand as a similar product, which will integrate redundant functions that can be easily transferred to another product.

[Dzot]

But, if we discuss this "logic", then so far it looks more like science fiction. The range of application of the S-500 missile, although it is long, will not allow "escort" ICBMs

What the devil is not joking .. Previously, the S-500 was fantastic and other "cartoons" ..
It was no coincidence that Putin dropped the phrase about three years ago about a new weapon based on new physical principles .. But hurray to shout too early, so as not to jinx it.

[yfast]

The perpetual motion machine has been selling for a long time, why not new physical principles? Put it on a rocket and launch it, let it circle the USA, wait for the command. The darkest can say anything, and then the physicists take the rap.

[ficus2003]

Quote: KCA

Yah? Did you know about the existence of A-035, A-135 and A-235? Do they intercept targets at a speed of about 100 km / h? I thought that they were faster than 30MAX, at least they flew, and of course, these developments could in no way affect the development of missiles for the S-500

And also the a-435, a-535, this is all the update of the anti-missile shield of Moscow, which existed long before the plans for the creation of the S-500, and the new missiles were simply declared part of the S-500, although they would have been updated in any case.

[Wladimir71]

I remember the last use of the Russian air defense system only by the destruction of our IL-300 s20. Americans, Israelis fly over Syria .. s400 is like ... what will s-500 do ??? if half of the Federation Council with citizenship of the countries of NATO.

[dilukhin]

Il-20 was shot down from the S-200, smart guy. Now say "what's the difference."

[bk0010]

An anti-missile missile that accompanies ICBMs before the separation of warheads is a rich idea if the number of ICBMs is limited by agreements and there is a lot of money.

[Masha from uralmash]

the most vulnerable section is the booster section (then you will catch the whole swarm), probably, this section is proposed to be protected from SM-3 anti-missiles in Poland, Alaska and Aegis

[Masha from uralmash]

Maybe it meant the cover of ICBMs in the active area from missile defense interceptors in Poland, the Czech Republic, Romania, Alaska? They can intercept or catch up with ICBMs at the acceleration stage. It has long been hovering that ICBMs can be accompanied by electronic warfare, false targets and anti-missile warheads can be launched on the basis of missile defense missiles, and if the corresponding interceptors are launched, they can be escorted by the situation.

[dilukhin]

And it is not necessary to cover ICBMs throughout the entire trajectory. At the finish line, they are already very difficult to catch, given the maneuvering hypersonic blocks, and it is no longer so necessary to protect them. They can handle it themselves. In contrast to the acceleration stage, when they did not pick up speed and are vulnerable to missile defense systems. Everyone remembers where the missile defense assets are? That's right, around Russia, in the NATO satellite countries. It is these interceptor missiles that will be neutralized. Great concept.

[VladVlad]

And here is the ICBM, which flies in space, and the S-500, which has a flight height of no more than 50 km. And there is a huge difference in range.

[Ilya_Nsk]

".. interception of enemy supersonic missiles."
Are you seriously? In my opinion, this problem was solved 50 years ago. Maybe hypersonic after all?