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There are materials about the incapacitation of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system in Ethiopia: under suspicion - lightning

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There are materials about the incapacitation of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system in Ethiopia: under suspicion - lightning

In the network there were materials in which it was announced that the Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile-gun systems in Ethiopia were disabled. Such statements are made, for example, by the Voenniy Obozrevatel Telegram channel.


The reports say that two Russian-made Pantsir-C1 vehicles "were disabled by lightning strikes." At the same time, it is noted that the "Shells" of the Armed Forces of Ethiopia were located in the area of ​​the "Khidas" ("An-Nahda") hydroelectric power station on the Blue Nile.
No further details are provided.

Previously, there was no information confirmed by officials about the sale of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system to the Ethiopian army. In Wikipedia, there was a "streamlined" phrase about this - "it may be in service." On our website in March 2019 was released news material on the placement of "Pantsirei-C1" in the "Hidasa" area with reference to Military Watch Magazine.

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It is worth recalling that it was the Blue Nile hydroelectric power station (the largest in Africa) that caused the complication of relations between Egypt and Ethiopia. In Cairo, they said that due to the construction of a power plant, the Nile in Egyptian territory began to shallow, and the number of fish decreased. Threats were heard from the Egyptian authorities against the Ethiopian authorities. Among other things - even threats of the use of military force. It was after those threats in the capital of Ethiopia that the decision was made to strengthen the defense of the hydroelectric power plant. At the same time, words were voiced about the need to implement a large-scale electrification plan, which will bring the country's economy to a higher level.

If the Pantsir-C1 complexes are really out of order, then the situation with lightning, as they say, is under discussion. Didn't Egypt execute its threats, realizing that it was not possible to agree on the hydroelectric power station?

There is no official data from the Armed Forces of Ethiopia about the withdrawal of the air defense missile system from operation yet.
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 26 July 2020 16: 20 New
    +4
    Lightning bolts in the right place at the right time for the Egyptians? "Coincidence?" .... Although Mother Nature may give out and not so.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 26 July 2020 16: 29 New
      12
      Quote: newbie
      Although Mother Nature may give out not so.

      That is why all military equipment is made resistant to lightning.
      The news has been sucked from .. I don't even know .. where. The shell is now mainstream ... which everyone is trying to destroy .. by any available and not very .. ways.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 26 July 2020 16: 34 New
        +3
        Colleague, I know that the technique is made lightning-resistant, but it is different. And as for the mainstream, yes, by any means they dream of all ours pushed back. Who benefits? _ It's easy to guess.
        1. venik
          venik 26 July 2020 18: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: newbie
          Colleague, I know that the technique is made lightning-resistant, but it is different.

          =========
          Technique - YES! And the crews? Lightning struck nearby .... "Carapace" "out of order"...... Yes, s-c-sleep !!! And how could it be otherwise? It's not fully robotic complex - CANNOT work WITHOUT a crew!
          That's when scattered in a panicThe Ethiopian crew will be caught in the jungle and pushed back (kicks) back to the operator's cabin - "Armor" will "GET INTO STORY" again lol laughing
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 26 July 2020 18: 36 New
          +1
          Murphy's law, sandwich, hammer !!!
          It is not possible to absolutely defend against such a powerful element! She will always find something to burn, pierce, destroy.
          All protection is set up to protect the most valuable, and lightning to provide a way of passage to the "earth" along the shortest, less destructive route.
          Then, monostable, it is protected when she plowed somewhere almost nearby, and not when she jumped into the most, most, "tender".
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 28 July 2020 11: 34 New
        0
        That is why all military equipment is made resistant to lightning.
        Tanks are also trying to make them shell-proof. But it doesn't always work out. Especially if the crew is neglected. So it is here. Maybe they didn't do the grounding very well.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 26 July 2020 16: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      Lightning bolts in the right place at the right time for the Egyptians? "Coincidence?" .... Although mother nature, may give out not so.


      That's it yes

      Take at least the accident at the Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant on March 11, 2011, as a result of the strongest earthquake in the history of Japan and the tsunami that followed ...

      But before the tragedy, in the island state, there was a special peak of anti-Russian hysteria associated with "the Northern Territories"(a number of islands of the Kuril ridge which are under Russian jurisdiction and under Russian sovereignty).

      After the disaster, for a while, the Japanese "relieved from the heart"...
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 26 July 2020 17: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Insurgent
        Take at least the accident at the Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant

        Let's take ..
        as a result of the tsunami, the pumps were de-energized and the reactor began to heat up .. There are no duplicate power supply schemes at these nuclear power plants ..
        As a result, the circuit was depressurized and water flowed into the ocean ..
        On the face of the design omission.
        The rest is speculation ..
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 26 July 2020 17: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: dvina71
          Let's take ..
          tsunami

          Quote: dvina71
          The rest is speculation ..


          Hmmm ... Tough case ...
          In fact, you can't take everything so "head-on", "in fact" what . RELAX !

          In this thread, more than half of the comments will be humorous ...
          1. Vlad T
            Vlad T 26 July 2020 18: 03 New
            +2
            According to Fukushima, Dvina71 is right, the Generators were 6 meters below the tide (Westinghouse USA project error). failed, additional ones were not enough, three reactors melted, one exploded, but the shell survived. In addition, all the workers fled at once, the chief director was found only a week later ... Firefighters poured water and to this day they are pouring water. Fukushima is still dangerous ... According to "Pantsyryam", - news from the series "one woman said", when reliable information appears, then you can discuss ...
          2. dvina71
            dvina71 26 July 2020 18: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            RELAX!

            This is what I am doing now .. For a week, I drove a heavy truck 3.8 t.km. Tired like a dog ..
            I washed myself and sit .. I watch YouTube and read IN ..
            And here it is .. They are destroying the Paciri with lightning .. and by an effort of will they cause a tsunami ... yeah .. and all for what? For a couple of months to distract from the dreams of smokers ..
            I read .. and I catch myself thinking .. Why am I reading this?
            A kid on a bicycle crawled under my wheels, and I have a load of boards ... h.z how I climbed between him and his friends .. that they were standing on the edge of the roadway .. already the crunch of broken bones seemed to me and the car did not put down .. so I'm not ready for alternative versions today ..
            1. volodimer
              volodimer 26 July 2020 19: 57 New
              +1
              Gennady! take it easy drinks ... tired, of course, but here they wrote in normal, frivolous ... I hope that he will let him go ... Malts may also get a little more crazy ... I'm glad you managed to dodge. EVERYTHING ended and ended WELL. Good luck!
            2. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 26 July 2020 21: 56 New
              0
              They destroy the Paciri with lightning ... and by an effort of will cause a tsunami ... yeah ..

              So you tell us that tsunamis are rare there and that was the very first, yeah!
      2. Charik
        Charik 26 July 2020 19: 15 New
        0
        before the catastrophe, the Americans demanded something from the economy from the Japs, they even talked about it-Japanese some kind of deputy prezik-then the vidos was removed and he was fired
      3. demo
        demo 26 July 2020 21: 40 New
        0
        A very interesting thing with this earthquake.
        By the time of this incident, on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, in one, well, a very developed country, there was a situation with a shortage of nuclear fuel.
        About 50 reactors could simply be shut down.
        And then there was an earthquake, a tsunami and an explosion at Fukushima.
        And the almost instantaneous decision of the Japanese government to shut down all reactors.
        And there were 50 of them.
        Coincidence?
        I don’t think so! (Kiselev)

        And almost immediately followed by the decision of the German government to abandon nuclear energy.
        And in the same country, they began to build additional reactors.
        Coincidence again?
        I do not think!

        Of course, we, people, still do not know how to work so well to move the lithospheric plate, and pass it off as the vagaries of nature.
        Of course, banging "a hammer on an anvil" - to blow up 100-200-300 megatons - we can do that.
        But then everything will be clear and understandable.
        There is only one possible option.
        Very knowledgeable people, and very powerful, just under the guise of one for the truth passed the other off.
        It's like a sleeping mine.
        At the right time, it is activated.
        But everything is framed as a natural and man-made disaster.
        And there is no one to ask.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 26 July 2020 16: 54 New
      0
      This "zhu-zhu-zhu" is not easy! And lightning here is not simple, but ball! They took and "on the ball" the Egyptians disabled their weapons! "Rebus .... croxword ...!" (A. Raikin)
      1. Charik
        Charik 26 July 2020 19: 16 New
        0
        who was taken out to?
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 27 July 2020 08: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        They took and "on the ball" the Egyptians disabled weapons

        “The reports say that two Russian-made Pantsir-C1 vehicles“ were disabled by lightning strikes. ”It is noted that "Armor" of the Armed Forces of Ethiopia were in the area of ​​the "Khidas" ("An-Nahda") hydroelectric power station on the Blue Nile ". (c)
        When will they read articles, and not for the sake of plus signs, write whatever? recourse request
    4. loki565
      loki565 26 July 2020 17: 07 New
      +1
      It is doubtful whether equipment is tested for lightning strikes and even for the effects of EMP from a nuclear explosion ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 July 2020 18: 41 New
        -1
        Are you serious???
        A person cannot reproduce such power, which is contained in such real phenomena !!!
        Only computational models, sometimes slightly approximate experiments (see scientific and educational programs).
        Protection is done ... within acceptable, reasonable, limits, nothing more.
        Usually this is enough, but there is also force majeure.
        1. loki565
          loki565 26 July 2020 19: 13 New
          +1
          They test military equipment for the consequences of a nuclear explosion, from a blast wave to an EMP. Emit consequences at a certain distance from the epicenter of the explosion. Here's a "scientific and educational program"))) about EMP at 18.00 minutes
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 July 2020 19: 33 New
            0
            Everything is correct, within reasonable limits ...
    5. pereselenec
      pereselenec 26 July 2020 17: 17 New
      -3
      Quote: newbie
      Lightning bolts in the right place at the right time for the Egyptians? "Coincidence?" .... Although Mother Nature may give out and not so.


      Perhaps the Amrikans used climate weapons.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 26 July 2020 17: 29 New
        +1
        It is unlikely, the scale is not the same.
      2. Charik
        Charik 26 July 2020 19: 17 New
        +1
        against the Ethiopian Armor-hahaha don't make my slippers laugh
    6. Gar
      Gar 26 July 2020 17: 32 New
      0
      Of course, most likely Egypt invented a secret weapon in the form of lightning. wassat
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 26 July 2020 17: 34 New
        +2
        laughing Everything is simpler, my colleague_ Ethiopians changed the technique to chamurges, blamed it on lightning.
    7. Maz
      Maz 26 July 2020 18: 28 New
      +1
      Channel "Military Observer" is a well-known trendball and copier in the telegram. many times was caught in fakes and stealing messages from serious bloggers. Serious people don't even read it
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 July 2020 16: 31 New
    +2
    There is one of the most dangerous places in the world. Thunderstorms are almost daily. It is surprising that this was not taken into account when placing the cars.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 26 July 2020 16: 45 New
      +4
      And what - it is no longer necessary to earth the equipment at the locations? If it’s true, I think that this is the result of the creativity of the Ethiopian military ... In general, selling sophisticated equipment to the Papuans is only to spoil your reputation .. And it will not help them because of the prohibitive curvature, and it will shit on us ..
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 26 July 2020 17: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: paul3390
        And what - it is no longer necessary to earth the equipment at the locations? If it’s true, I think that this is the result of the creativity of the Ethiopian military ... In general, selling sophisticated equipment to the Papuans is only to spoil your reputation .. And it will not help them because of the prohibitive curvature, and it will shit on us ..

        Do not worry, Russia will also make money on the repair of installations, and based on the "friction" of the Ethiopians with the Egyptians, it may be urgent, and therefore more expensive yes
  3. Pavel57
    Pavel57 26 July 2020 16: 58 New
    0
    Egypt blasted with lightning.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 26 July 2020 17: 07 New
      +7
      Quote: Pavel57
      Egypt blasted with lightning.

      Which of the gods knew them with lightning?

      They say this, that is TOT lol

    2. sedoj
      sedoj 26 July 2020 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel57
      Egypt blasted with lightning.

      Yeah, straight from the pyramid of Cheops. belay
  4. rrtgnh
    rrtgnh 26 July 2020 17: 17 New
    +2
    This is the Egyptian seventh execution.
  5. fn34440
    fn34440 26 July 2020 17: 36 New
    +1
    Egypt is a more profitable client of our military-industrial complex, dozens, if not hundreds of times. And the personal contact of the first persons is at the highest level.
    And nobody canceled bookmarks in export equipment - ALL manufacturers do this.
    Therefore: lightning, so lightning.
  6. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 26 July 2020 18: 16 New
    0
    Lightning hammer on the air defense system? Sheer stupidity and stupidity.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 26 July 2020 18: 18 New
    0
    Something that the appearance of lightning resembles misinformation. In other countries, there is no lightning or maybe "Pantsir-C1" suffered from something else?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 26 July 2020 18: 23 New
    +1
    So lightning is a powerful element !!! I had experience in repairing equipment, after it jumped into the antenna field a couple of times !!! The equipment was lamp, mostly oak, the protection was as expected and anyway, the semiconductors had to be replaced with boxes!
  9. Old26
    Old26 26 July 2020 18: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: pereselenec
    Perhaps the Amrikans used climate weapons.

    Rather, this is the usual. Called "lightning-2" laughing
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 July 2020 18: 38 New
    0
    Israeli trace again ...)))
    After all, everyone knows that the closest Lockheed Martin F-35 users to Ethiopia lightning / Lightning/ are who ..? wassat
  11. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 26 July 2020 18: 47 New
    +3
    "Light from Venus bounced off the upper atmosphere and caused a swamp gas explosion ..."
  12. Charik
    Charik 26 July 2020 19: 11 New
    -1
    this lightning-Su35 is called laughing
  13. KCA
    KCA 26 July 2020 20: 38 New
    +1
    These weren't trained to drive grounding into the ground? On my R-142 and R-145 it was first, then the antenna was raised
  14. tarakan
    tarakan 26 July 2020 21: 12 New
    0
    The good old "TOR" will not spoil the furrows laughing
  15. asr55
    asr55 27 July 2020 09: 10 New
    0
    This could be written only by someone who is not familiar with the device of any ZRPK, especially modern ones. In shilka, tunguska, tank, bmp, bmd, armored personnel carrier, etc. if lightning strikes, it cannot do harm, but the shell suddenly fell into the air defense system and was destroyed. That's how popular our complex is! And they threw shit into the cabs with the Turks, the Jews destroyed them with bulging ammunition, drones flew in a bunch of everything. And now lightning has struck the complex. What is theoretically possible, but almost completely excluded. Yes, the complex in its modern form is very good. He does not give rest to his opponents. Now the armor-cm air defense missile system has a flight speed of anti-aircraft missiles ranging from 1800 to 2500 meters per second, which is an indicator of hypersonic speed. Potentially dangerous objects are detected at a distance of 85 km. from the ground, hitting an object with a high probability of destruction is active at a distance of 45 km. from the anti-aircraft gun. "Pantsir-SM" is capable of moving from 48 to 96 missiles, which is equal to 4 strike sets. In addition, new mini-missiles have been created that can accommodate 4 pieces. in one tube for the destruction of small targets, such as a drone. It is the missiles from the carapace-cm air defense system that are in the dagger air defense launchers on the marshal Shaposhnikov's bpc after modernization, i.e. 64 missiles zrk armor-m will work together with 4 zak ak-630m. Good decision.
  16. Garant_Solntselikij
    Garant_Solntselikij 27 July 2020 11: 03 New
    -3
    Yes, something suspiciously often lightning and other "natural" factors disable the shell
  17. 3vs
    3vs 27 July 2020 12: 41 New
    0
    The question is, does Israel have some kind of ties with Ethiopia?
    Israel, it seems, has been friends with Egypt lately ...