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There is a truce again in the LDNR. The military does not believe, the patriots panic

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Believe it or not, on July 26 the press service of the DPR people's militia announced a complete and indefinite ceasefire on July 27. The corresponding agreements were reached by the contact group during the talks on July 22. The agreements provide for a moratorium on any offensive and sabotage actions, firing, the use of snipers, the deployment of weapons in populated areas, and also implies disciplinary liability for violation of the ceasefire. The ceasefire supposedly should last until the total resolution of the conflict in Donbass.

“In connection with the agreements reached on July 22 at the talks of the contact group in Minsk, we are moving to a complete and indefinite ceasefire. All military personnel of the people's militia from 00.01 o'clock on July 27, 2020 are prohibited from using any weapons, including small arms weapon»

- said the head of the DPR NM Denis Sinenkov.

It is noteworthy that almost exactly a year ago, a “complete”, “global” ceasefire was also concluded, which lasted about two hours and ended in a bloody massacre comparable to the level of violence and the intensity of shelling in 2015.

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The declared ceasefire provoked a symmetrical reaction among the patriotic sentries on both sides of the contact line. It's funny, but this is not the first time it turns out that the rhetoric and even the argumentation of apocalyptic citizens is completely identical. Today the formula is as follows: the enemy will not observe the ceasefire and will fire at our defenseless guys, and those who dared to respond to the provocation will be crucified by the bloodthirsty Chekists.

“For the convenience of describing what is happening,“ the official representatives of the NM LPR ”even this winter mastered the use of an excellent wording:“ the formation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine got out of control ”. That is, the ceasefire will be strictly observed by the Ukrainian side, and only those "out of control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" will continue shelling, causing, as before, the indignation and concern of the signatories. And the RAV and fuels and lubricants services that got out of control will supply them with BC and fuel. And the financial units that got out of control - to pay salaries. Of course, the measures to control the use of weapons on the LBS from our side will, as before, directly depend on the moronicism of the arriving "foundlings". But this will already be of a very secondary importance, because they cannot find fools to work on the front line as targets already now in the required quantities ”,

- writes the telegram channel "2.infantry".

Of course, this is indeed a very realistic forecast. At the same time, most of the more moderate commentators, including from the military, believe that the truce will generally remain invisible and traditionally last a few minutes or hours, and then everything will return to normal.

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Yes, of course, I would very much like to believe in another truce; that the negotiators have finally reached a consensus and the settlements along the contact line will breathe freely. It is a pity that there are zero grounds for this belief. Moreover, the Ukrainian units on the line of demarcation over the years have already convincingly proved that Kiev's decrees are indifferent to them. Probably, Zelensky could try to restore order among the Armed Forces of Ukraine and achieve compliance with a truce, but it is by no means a fact that they will succeed, and why should they do it?

The wait, of course, will not be long: with the truce, everything will become clear almost immediately. The fate of the virtual Minsk agreements and, of course, the unrecognized republics is much less obvious. So far, it seems that the LDNR has prepared some kind of new format, which includes all the problems faced by the TMR, North Ossetia and Abkhazia, but at the same time devoid of all the positive aspects of their existence.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 10 New
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    There is a truce again in the LDNR. The military does not believe, the patriots panic

    Another "flashy" provocative headline.

    Why should I (and I consider myself a patriot of small Donbass and big Russia) panic?

    "The military doesn't believe"... Of course they don't believe, because POLITICS, as always, have not achieved anything ...
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      [B]

      Why should I (and I consider myself a patriot of small Donbass and big Russia) panic?



      from indifference ...

      At least in terms of the number of comments on this news (and this is on VO!) .. my comment is the fourth in more than 20 minutes from the publication of the article ... and if you remember 2014 at the same time, the reaction to news from the LDNR was instant massive ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Nasr
        from indifference ...

        fool
        Yes, obviously. "solely out of indifference"I will soon be a citizen of the Russian Federation ...
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 24 New
          -8
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: Nasr
          from indifference ...

          fool
          Yes, obviously. "solely out of indifference"I will soon be a citizen of the Russian Federation ...

          Thank you to Commander-in-Chief V.V. Putin .. He does not forget you ...
          Although, I heard - you are not a supporter of Putin ... you are unlikely to thank him ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            Thank you to Commander-in-Chief V.V. Putin .. He does not forget you ...

            If so, then even more so, once again: What's with the cause for panic ?
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 32 New
              -7
              Quote: Insurgent
              Quote: Nasr
              Thank you to Commander-in-Chief V.V. Putin .. He does not forget you ...

              If so, then even more so, once again: What's with the cause for panic ?

              It's strange to hear respectful notes from you about the president of Russia ..

              Forty minutes have passed, and there have been no comments on the article ... only your enthusiasm for the imminent acquisition of Russian citizenship ...
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 38 New
                +7
                Quote: Nasr
                It's strange to hear respectful notes from you about the president of Russia ..

                It is strange to see a comment "incriminating" me in respect to the GDP ...

                I can be critical of the actions of Putin or other leadership of the Russian Federation, but suspect me of disrespecting the President of the Russian Federation - Nonsense yes .
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 43 New
                  -9
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Quote: Nasr
                  It's strange to hear respectful notes from you about the president of Russia ..

                  It is strange to see a comment "incriminating" me in respect to the GDP ...

                  I can be critical of the actions of Putin or other leadership of the Russian Federation, but suspect me of disrespecting the President of the Russian Federation - Nonsense yes .

                  Your criticism is full of contempt ... and by the way, you have never written words of gratitude to Putin for citizenship, you are constantly trying to get away from this .. closing yourself with beautiful words ... this is Nonsense!
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 45 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Your criticism is full of contempt ...

                    "Proofs", quotes from my criticism of the GDP will be, or will you get by with empty "blah, blah, blah"?
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 50 New
                      -7
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      Quote: Nasr
                      Your criticism is full of contempt ...

                      "Proofs", quotes from my criticism of the GDP will be, or will you get by with empty "blah, blah, blah"?

                      Regular VO readers from without proofs know everything ... so blah blah won't work ..
                      And your answer speaks for itself ..
                      .
                      Quote: Insurgent

                      It is strange to see a comment "incriminating" me in respect to the GDP ...

                      .


                      In fact, you said bluntly that you do not respect GDP .... What other proofs are you waiting for?
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 15: 55 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Nasr
                        Regular VO readers from without proofs know everything ... so blah blah won't work ..

                        Clear yes , nickname Nasrat determines everything - he showed up, shit without foundation and without evidence, and dumped ...
                      2. Nasrat
                        Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 58 New
                        -6
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: Nasr
                        Regular VO readers from without proofs know everything ... so blah blah won't work ..

                        Clear yes , nickname Nasrat determines everything - he showed up, shit without foundation and without evidence, and dumped ...

                        The last thing to slip into a discussion of nick ... ugh ... I still had a better opinion of you ...
                      3. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 16: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Nasr
                        The last thing is to slide into the discussion of the nickname ...

                        So you are a troll, nothing human, except your feces, for a little more worthy discussion, nothing else request

                        That fan, in this spelling: Nasrat - YOURS, you chose it yourself, and no one imposed it on you.

                        And that means - associate yourself with srach.
                      4. Nasrat
                        Nasrat 27 July 2020 16: 03 New
                        -7
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: Nasr
                        The last thing is to slide into the discussion of the nickname ...

                        So you are a troll, nothing human, except your feces, for a little more worthy discussion, nothing else request

                        The fact that you are from Ukraine explains a lot in your behavior ... hi
                      5. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 16: 04 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Nasr
                        The fact that you are from Ukraine explains a lot in your behavior ...

                        fool I'm from Donbass.
                      6. Nasrat
                        Nasrat 27 July 2020 16: 06 New
                        -9
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: Nasr
                        The fact that you are from Ukraine explains a lot in your behavior ...

                        fool I'm from Donbass.

                        One does not cancel the other ... The behavior of a person from Ukraine .. hi
                      7. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 16: 08 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Nasr
                        One does not cancel the other ...


                        Canceled long ago. Documented from May 11, 2014.

                        Quote: Nasr
                        Behavior of a person from Ukraine ..

                        Stuck the same thing ... Stoned.
                      8. Nasrat
                        Nasrat 27 July 2020 16: 16 New
                        -10
                        Quote: Insurgent

                        Stuck the same thing ... Stoned.

                        I am interested in psychology and you are my ward for about an hour ...
                      9. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 16: 22 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Nasr
                        I am interested in psychology and you are my ward for about an hour ...

                        You're slow-witted ...

                        I had enough minute , to bite through your rotten stew, another 17.07. in the article:
                        https://topwar.ru/173171-ukraina-vyhodit-iz-minskih-soglashenij.html#comment-id-10601443

                        Now, take a pill and go to bed yes
                      10. Nasrat
                        Nasrat 27 July 2020 16: 34 New
                        -9
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: Nasr
                        I am interested in psychology and you are my ward for about an hour ...

                        You're slow-witted ...

                        I had enough minute , to bite through your rotten stew, another 17.07. in the article:
                        https://topwar.ru/173171-ukraina-vyhodit-iz-minskih-soglashenij.html#comment-id-10601443


                        fine ... I really selected a candidate and you then approached me by psychotype, I see I was not mistaken. ..I will still talk with you .... you feel nervous tension now ... excuse me to be distracted .... and so .. now the session is over .. come to your senses .... see you soon! hi
                      11. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 27 July 2020 16: 43 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Nasr
                        come to your senses .... see you soon!

                        However, what a touching touched ...
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 27 July 2020 18: 27 New
          -1
          Quote: Insurgent
          So you associate yourself with a srach.

          My neighbor graduated from the pedagogical institute, there is no work at the school, she finished three-month courses in Pskov. Now it’s not a psychologist or a psychoanalyst. Now the school has work, but its own clientele, money has appeared. Grandfather said study to be a dentist or a psychologist.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 July 2020 17: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Insurgent
    I may be critical of the actions of Putin or other leadership of the Russian Federation, but suspect me of disrespecting the President of the Russian Federation - NONSENS

    I respect !!!
    1. Dzot
      Dzot 27 July 2020 18: 09 New
      -3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: Insurgent
      I may be critical of the actions of Putin or other leadership of the Russian Federation, but suspect me of disrespecting the President of the Russian Federation - NONSENS

      I respect !!!

      Yes, he's lying to Vlad! negative
  • g1v2
    g1v2 27 July 2020 15: 36 New
    +7
    What kind of reaction did you expect? There is a sluggish conflict like the Karabakh conflict. Skirmishes are perceived as a background and commonplace. Fatalities are perceived as roughly the same as those killed in road accidents. Periodically, there are some exacerbations and then people's interest is manifested, purely to find out what is happening there and then goes out again. Just like now, Armenia and Azerbaijan have aggravated the situation at home and again interest begins to fade along with the bd. request
    Even in Ukraine, where, in general, the war is going on, ordinary people are much more interested in other problems - tariffs, price increases, coronavirus, etc. The war is somewhere in the east. Periodically, ATOs are brought in to bury them, but for ordinary people they have long become a problem. One heading "weekly flounder" is worth it. For many, it would be better if these ATOs never returned. request
    Well, for us in the Russian Federation, this war has already become something distant in fact. Although I have only three guys from Donbass working. And even more from the rest of Ukraine. So, neither the guys from Donbass, nor from Ukraine practically remember the war. Everyone has already settled down, settled down in St. Petersburg, and if earlier they constantly discussed news from Donbass, now - about football, repairs, cars, medicine, etc. request
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 27 July 2020 15: 39 New
      -7
      Quote: g1v2

      Everyone has already settled down, settled down in St. Petersburg, and if earlier they constantly discussed news from Donbass, now - about football, repairs, cars, medicine, etc. request

      well, what I'm talking about ...
      On TV, recently, they stopped driving a blizzard about Ukrainian affairs - everyone was tired of worse than a steamed turnip ...
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 27 July 2020 16: 34 New
        +5
        Well, here you need to understand that gossmies start to drive a wave when there is a possibility of some serious action. Well. for example, when they were really preparing for a possible exacerbation with the Turks, the media began to reveal all the sultan's sins. With a purely utilitarian function, it is necessary for the layman, who does not understand anything at all in the world around him, quickly and clearly explain why we with these guys will probably be at war. The problems were resolved, the relationship improved and everything immediately subsided in a moment.
        The same is with Ukraine. When there is a possibility that some measures will have to be taken against it, including the military, then artillery preparation begins in the media and Ukraine from every iron, so that every man in the street understands who, for what and why. When everything calms down and the likelihood of conflict falls, then everything subsides. This is normal. Moreover, for the Ukrainian society, this is the "aggressor country" is the main topic, and the GDP is responsible for everything bad, almost urinating in their entrances. For us, Ukraine is far from the center of the world.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 27 July 2020 17: 04 New
    -3
    Quote: Nasr
    At least in terms of the number of comments on this news (and this is on VO!) .. my comment is the fourth in more than 20 minutes from the publication of the article ... and if you remember 2014 at the same time, the reaction to news from the LDNR was instant massive ...


    By the way, yes. In 2014, any article about Donbass collected 800-900 comments. Now, unfortunately, almost no one in Russia pays attention to the LPNR.
  • Dzot
    Dzot 27 July 2020 18: 06 New
    -6
    Quote: Nasr
    from indifference ...

    And cynicism ..!
    Quote: Nasr
    At least in terms of the number of comments on this news (and this is on VO!) .. my comment is the fourth in more than 20 minutes from the publication of the article ... and if you remember 2014 at the same time, the reaction to news from the LDNR was instant massive ...

    They cleaned up most of the site .. Here the insurgents stayed here ..
    We read them and other evidence, etc. And there is NO more information!
    This is how we survive hehe
  • iouris
    iouris 27 July 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Another "flashy" provocative headline.

    Not "another headline" or "provocation", but an ongoing campaign. Ideological sabotage on an ongoing basis.
  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 28 July 2020 10: 31 New
    0
    because POLITICS, as always, have not achieved anything ...

    From what. just the same they achieved. For many, this conflict is beneficial. But most of all, it is beneficial to the United States and partly to the Ukrainian authorities. And therefore, the situation of a constant controlled conflict, which can be regulated in the direction of softening or intensifying hostilities on the front line, will be supported by the United States by the hands of the Kiev regime for a long time to come.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 27 July 2020 15: 11 New
    +3
    This is a truce, yes to God in the ears ...
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 27 July 2020 15: 12 New
    +1
    LDNR will be stuck for a long time in the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Not surprising. Suitcase without handle for both sides.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 27 July 2020 15: 54 New
    -1
    Like Yegor, I ABSOLUTELY do not believe in the peacefulness of the great ukrov and the global eternal truce. They ALWAYS rip it off. The only question is WHEN, how long will they hold out without shelling. Moreover, they MUST declare that the armistice was disrupted by the LDNR members!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 July 2020 16: 27 New
    -1
    Haha said Little Red Riding Hood and thought otherwise.
  • Kronos
    Kronos 27 July 2020 17: 27 New
    +2
    What are the positive aspects of existence in the PMR, North Ossetia and Abkhazia?
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 27 July 2020 22: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Kronos
      What are the positive aspects of existence in the PMR, North Ossetia and Abkhazia?

      once a week article. THAT is bad there, but they hold on.
      Or maybe once a month.
      Quiet fading away without attention, while people will take the maximum of passports and look for the best.
      In the Russian Federation or Ukraine.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 27 July 2020 23: 52 New
    0
    Yes, that's right, there were some provocative articles about the LPR.

    Preparing an opinion in advance for the next blood? We need to distract people ...
  • glum
    glum 28 July 2020 10: 33 New
    0
    According to the Ukrainian side, the ceasefire lasted only a few minutes and "gifts" arrived at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And the civilian population also got it.
  • German Titov
    German Titov 28 July 2020 21: 06 New
    0
    It is difficult to find "suckers" in Donetsk - those who believe in a truce.