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"How I was cut by Furgal's arrest, no one will tell you": Degtyarev spoke with the protesters

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Acting Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory Mikhail Degtyarev met with participants in a car protest in support of the former head of the region, Sergei Furgal. He stated that he shares the position of the protesters, but supports a civilized dialogue.


This was reported today by the press service of the government of the Khabarovsk Territory.

Degtyarev:
Are you from the Liberal Democratic Party? Not? And I - yes. And as I was cut by his (Furgala's) arrest, no one will hand over to you.

To this Degtyarev was answered with the phrase: "We need actions, not words."

Degtyarev believes that for a normal dialogue, its participants must hear each other:

Here I can talk to you - there are several dozen of you here. You can hear me, I can hear you.

He drew the protesters' attention that now the Khabarovsk Territory was left without a leader. But the region is on the verge of the beginning of the school year and the onset of winter:

Think - the edge is decapitated. My task as an interim is to establish all the processes. That's my whole mission.

Degtyarev also assured the protesters that the Liberal Democratic Party, of which he is a member, will provide the necessary support to Sergei Furgal. He also invited the activists to join the People's Council under the interim head of the region, whose task will include discussing sensitive topics and finding solutions to the region's problems.

The conversation of the interim head of the Khabarovsk Territory with the protesters was allegedly spontaneous. Having met a column of motorists on the highway, Degtyarev decided to stop and get out of the car to talk to people.

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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 26 July 2020 11: 04 New
    34
    I don’t understand why communicate with Degtyarev .. what can he say useful, except for promises that are endlessly poured and not fulfilled .. About the rise in gasoline prices, this is generally beyond the bounds, there is no competition .. Gasoline is getting more expensive everywhere and always .. and This comes from the irrepressible thirst for profit of a narrow group of people, which makes the country's population poorer from year to year ..

    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 26 July 2020 11: 11 New
      -29
      Quote: Svarog
      I don’t understand why I’m talking to Degtyarev ... what useful things can he say, besides promises that flow endlessly ...

      I don’t understand at all why it’s worth communicating with the opposition ... what useful things can they say, except for feces that endlessly pour ... yes
      How do you like this turn, Vladimir?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 26 July 2020 11: 15 New
        16
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Svarog
        I don’t understand why I’m talking to Degtyarev ... what useful things can he say, besides promises that flow endlessly ...

        I don’t understand at all why it’s worth communicating with the opposition ... what useful things can they say, except for feces that endlessly pour ... yes
        How do you like this turn, Vladimir?


        Do not communicate .. with the opposition and do not communicate, they are imprisoned, fined and generally make their life unbearable .. It looks very stupid, cowardly .. and sneaky .. Such a policy will lead to the fact that soon a lot of people will start ticking abroad. That will be a turn .. I will not ask you how it will be for you .. because it is clear that such a turn will be painful for you.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 26 July 2020 11: 26 New
          -9
          Quote: Svarog
          Do not communicate .. with the opposition and do not communicate, they are imprisoned

          By the number of "oppositionists" who have proliferated on the site, I can only say: it doesn’t look like you are being imprisoned - I have such a suspicion that, on the contrary, you are being fed and nurtured like ants are aphids. Only ants "milk" aphids - feeding on their sweet secretions. But who can eat feces - I have a big question! yes
          Quote: Svarog
          Such a policy will lead to the fact that people will soon start ticking abroad in large quantities .. There will be a turn .. I will not ask how it will be for you .. because it is understandable that such a turn will be painful for you.

          And to us simple workers and pensioners do not care what to drag, what to drag! (I hope you heard the whole expression)
          ABOUT! Miners came in. Forward and with the song! Doesn't it hurt your eyes? yes
          But I don't put any cons at all! I think there is no need to bite from under the tishka. soldier
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 July 2020 11: 35 New
            23
            Quote: SRC P-15
            By the number of "oppositionists" that have bred on the site,

            Do you really think that the country's population is crazy about zeroing? Do you live in Russia? If yes .. leave the house?
            And we ordinary workers and pensioners do not care

            And how do you survive as a simple worker-retiree? I have a lot of familiar workers, I have not seen one who would stand up for a zeroed one .. A year ago there were such, but now there is none. Hence the question for you, can you sit on the RFP?
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 26 July 2020 11: 36 New
              -22
              Quote: Svarog
              Hence the question for you, can you sit on the RFP?

              "Whoever hurts, he talks about that!"
            2. dedusik
              dedusik 26 July 2020 11: 51 New
              10
              Yes, to pensioners before the lantern is zeroing. I’m sitting in retirement and I don’t see anything bad yet.
              And in your opinion, it turns out that if it were not for zeroing, my pension would have grown n times bully
              1. volodimer
                volodimer 26 July 2020 20: 42 New
                10
                And now I am up to retirement, like walking to the moon .... There is no hope for Rogozin or the Mask ... You understand that you do not care, but I went to science .... To plow and plow. My mother told me: why do you need this polythene ... go to TOVMU .... I would serve on a piece of iron N-calendars and have a pension .... The guys who got it like that, Respect and Respect !!! I know that this is not for beautiful eyes, but earned.
            3. Alexander Seklitsky
              Alexander Seklitsky 26 July 2020 13: 45 New
              -4
              Quote: Svarog
              And how do you survive as a simple worker-retiree? I have a lot of familiar workers, I have not seen one who would stand up for a zero.

              your meager social circle. I'm not happy with what is happening on the ground, but I have enough brains to understand that Putin has nothing to do with it. And I can see perfectly well that the local opportunists will swear allegiance to any flag
              1. yustas
                yustas 26 July 2020 16: 06 New
                -11
                Completely, I support you and it started not with Putin, but with a very famous character, fortunately now all this is on the decline ...
          2. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 26 July 2020 11: 36 New
            12
            Quote: SRC P-15
            And to us simple workers and pensioners do not care what to drag, what to drag!

            Just about, your opinion (of ordinary people) is not interesting to anyone, because it is meaningless. You always serve the current government, regardless of its type ... even tomorrow the bearded Islamic power will seize, you will recognize them and will bow down to beat. Therefore, it is not clear to you how you can doubt that those in power are letting them down from above - you are small, simple people, it’s not your little mind that they decided up there. From that and bombs you, from the presence of any opposition hi
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 26 July 2020 11: 50 New
              -15
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              From that and bombs you, from the presence of any opposition

              It’s the other way around “you have bombs” - you are indignant here, everyone is so “correct” ... And we are simple people, used to getting our daily bread ourselves. Only one thing surprises me. How so: I am a pensioner, should I have free time? But this time is not enough for me to sit for hours at a computer every day. But your "oppositionists", I see, in the heat of the struggle against the hateful government, do not leave the "claudia" at all. Not a single sane person will sit here just like that! So maybe you are interested here? I would not be surprised if it is material. - Bash on bash, as they say. hi
              1. kot28.ru
                kot28.ru 26 July 2020 12: 04 New
                11
                the stump is so clear that the trolls are on a salary, and many live outside of Russia. However, one thing is surprising how they sing along with the trolls from the Square at the moments of watering Russia with feces!
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 33 New
                  +8
                  Quote: kot28.ru
                  moments of watering Russia with feces!

                  And what does Russia have to do with it if the authorities are criticized ?!
                  1. kot28.ru
                    kot28.ru 27 July 2020 01: 02 New
                    -2
                    Residents of ukraine, israel, the baltic states of igoresh, etc., criticize the Russian authorities? invaders from Western countries, in which they saw "liberators"! IMHO.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 27 July 2020 10: 00 New
                      +3
                      Quote: kot28.ru
                      It has long been clear to all adequate for what they are doing it and who they are.

                      Do you consider yourself adequate?
                      I have big doubts about that.
                    2. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 27 July 2020 10: 22 New
                      -1
                      Do residents of ukraine, israel, the baltics of igoresh and others criticize the Russian authorities?

                      It is federal that you have already transferred Voronezh to Ukraine ..))
                      At the same time, you are still talking about some kind of adequacy.
                2. Prisoner
                  Prisoner 27 July 2020 13: 25 New
                  +2
                  Well, they don't water everything. Here for Furgal, a purely authoritative businessman and governor, they fit in.
              2. ssergey1978
                ssergey1978 26 July 2020 12: 10 New
                21
                I don't know what you are missing there, but 8200 comments were scribbled
                1. Hog
                  Hog 26 July 2020 12: 54 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ssergey1978
                  I don't know what you are missing there, but 8200 comments were scribbled

                  Do not fall to the cantor)))
                2. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 56 New
                  -3
                  He doesn't have to register new accounts.
              3. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 27 July 2020 14: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: SRC P-15
                But this time is not enough for me to sit for hours at a computer every day. But your "oppositionists", I see, in the heat of the struggle against the hateful government, do not leave the "claudia" at all.
                Where are our "oppositionists" to your "patriots", because the number of comments, for example, from your colleague, and the same field marshal Lopatov, is already almost 29000 wassat
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 27 July 2020 14: 22 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Stirbjorn
                  Where are our "oppositionists" to your "patriots", because the number of comments, for example, from your colleague, and the same field marshal Lopatov, is already almost 29000

                  Ay-y-yay! It's not good my friend to look into someone else's pocket! And even more so to ring the whole world about it! Not solid on your part ... laughing
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 12: 47 New
              -2
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              From that and bombs you, from the presence of any opposition

              From the "opposition" demanding the closure of the criminal case against the murderer of any NORMAL person should be "bombed".
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 13: 39 New
                19
                Quote: Spade
                From the "opposition" demanding the closure of the criminal case against the murderer of any NORMAL person should be "bombed".

                Something didn’t tear you apart from billions of dollars in losses at Rosoboronservice? belay
                Wasn't it “bombed” by spending on the Olympics in 2014?
                Wasn't it blown away by the scale of theft on Vostochny?
                And Kudrin's statement that a trillion rubles has not been incinerated in the Russian economy?
                Yours at every televised meeting says that in Russia only the court determines the guilt of a person. Even he was amazed:
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 51 New
                  -7
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Something didn’t tear you apart from billions of dollars in losses at Rosoboronservice?

                  Didn't break.
                  I don't march with the slogans "Hands off the killer!" "The shepherd has the right to slaughter the rams!" "Well, he stole, so what, it's our choice!"

                  All cases of theft must be investigated without fail. All those responsible will be brought to justice. And to receive REAL terms, and not like Serebrennikov or Navalny. Moreover, this should not depend on what political preferences the criminal had.

                  The inevitability of punishment is the cornerstone of any NORMAL state.
                2. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 18 New
                  -9
                  Speaking of the birds, one of the killed was a military man, and judging by his last job, the newspaper Suvorov Onslaught, he was a political worker. Then his "criminal bourgeois power" threw him out into civilian life, like most other political workers. I went into business to feed my family. But the future "people's choice" really liked his property.

                  Here's what's interesting to me, a political worker and a communist for you "red", in theory, should have been your own, why are you tearing your asses so hard in order to smear his probable killer?
                  1. bk0010
                    bk0010 26 July 2020 17: 11 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Spade
                    Why are you tearing up your asses so hard to grease his likely killer?
                    Because with a 90% probability, he did not kill anyone. I see two reasons for his arrest: he won the election against the edoras and the Rottenbergs liked his plant. Rather, the second, since he has been governor for a long time, and became a murderer when they decided to build a bridge. And people are enraged by the fact that they are trying to replace the one they chose (although the choice was so-so, but what happened, it happened) with the one whom they put.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 26 July 2020 18: 43 New
                      -12
                      Quote: bk0010
                      Because with a 90% probability, he did not kill anyone.

                      Is that why the "narot" is tearing up his ass for stopping the investigation?

                      Quote: bk0010
                      and his plant

                      Opachki ..... Does he also have a plant?
                      Probably a prosperous enterprise, with such a manager ... The plant simply has no end of expensive orders, one by one, one by one ...
                      1. bk0010
                        bk0010 26 July 2020 20: 36 New
                        +9
                        Quote: Spade
                        Is that why the "narot" is tearing up his ass for stopping the investigation?
                        Actually, where did you see about the termination of the investigation?
                        Quote: Spade
                        Probably a prosperous enterprise, with such a manager ... The plant simply has no end of expensive orders, one by one, one by one ...
                        Quite right: they decided to build a railway and a large bridge in the Far East. The order for metal will be monstrous volumes, normal logistics only from this plant. And "respected people" own only half of the plant. Therefore, they are trying to squeeze it now. The first co-owner was caulked long ago, he had already transferred the shares to them in prison and testified against Furgal. Now they squeeze out of Furgal.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 45 New
                        -13
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Actually, where did you see about the termination of the investigation?

                        Slogans.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Quite right: they decided to build a railway and a large bridge in the Far East. The order for metal will be monstrous volumes

                        Cool.
                        That is, not only murder is normal, but obvious corruption is also normal.
                        Nice little ...
                        What other crimes are you willing to justify?
                      3. bk0010
                        bk0010 26 July 2020 20: 47 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Spade
                        Slogans.
                        Will there be a link?
                        Once again: where did you get the idea that there were murders? Where was it written about corruption? And most importantly: where do I justify all this?
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 26 July 2020 21: 11 New
                        -6
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Once again: where did you get the idea that there were murders?

                        From what they were

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Where was it written about corruption?

                        In your statement about the "plant". Which belongs to Furgal and will receive an "order for metal of monstrous volumes"

                        Quote: bk0010
                        And most importantly: where do I justify all this?

                        Don't you make excuses?
                        Why, then, are you tearing up the ass for a suspect?
                      5. bk0010
                        bk0010 26 July 2020 22: 30 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Spade
                        From what they were
                        No.
                        Quote: Spade
                        In your statement about the "plant". Which belongs to Furgal and will receive an "order for metal of monstrous volumes"
                        This is not corruption, this is the Sakhalin Bridge, the project has been adopted at such top levels, to which Furgalu, like China, is in cancer.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Why, then, are you tearing up the ass for a suspect?
                        Firstly, I do not ditch my ass, but I expose crooks, and secondly, not for the suspect, but against the Rottenbergs.
                      6. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 26 July 2020 22: 39 New
                        -5
                        Quote: bk0010
                        No.

                        Here I am about ...

                        Quote: bk0010
                        This is not corruption, this is the Sakhalin Bridge

                        Yeah, and that the factory owned by the governor will suddenly receive a bunch of orders - quite normal, no corruption.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Firstly, I do not tear my ass, but I expose crooks

                        In fact, you are making excuses for him. Crooks and a possible (99%) killer.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        but against the Rottenbergs.

                        Who are they?
                        A kind of abstract evil, instead of a world Zionist conspiracy.
                        Damn, a real case, for a year and a half for "shooting in the air, but he stumbled and therefore I hit him in the back from the Saiga"
                        No children of Zion, no conspiracy. Furgal just gave the command to "punish", and the man died from buckshot in the back
                        Or did this "not exist" either?
                      7. bk0010
                        bk0010 26 July 2020 23: 01 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Spade
                        Yeah, and that the factory owned by the governor will suddenly receive a bunch of orders - quite normal, no corruption.
                        Not the slightest, clean logistics. Look at the map: where else can you deliver a burst of metal? And here along the Amur just to the construction site. But the fact that the Rottenbergs will receive a contract for the construction of the bridge is pure corruption.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Generally speaking, you justify it.
                        Where? Give my quote with justification. The fact that he is a swindler does not raise any special questions, otherwise how would he buy parliamentary crusts from the Liberal Democratic Party, but the fact that he is not a murderer is 90% sure, otherwise he would have been attracted much earlier for the murders 15 years ago, and not when it took his share of the plant. And they sew him murders, because it is much easier to squeeze out shares in a cell, and with fraud, everything could end with house arrest.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Who are they?
                        A kind of abstract evil, instead of a world Zionist conspiracy.
                        No, the evil is completely concrete, which is just plundering the country. It is justified by the fact that it not only robs, but also builds, but this is cynicism.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Damn, a real case, for a year and a half for "shooting in the air, but he stumbled and therefore I hit him in the back from the Saiga"
                        No children of Zion, no conspiracy. Furgal just gave the command to "punish", and the man died from buckshot in the back
                        Or did this "not exist" either?
                        Maybe it wasn't, I didn't. Will there be proofs?
                3. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 26 July 2020 21: 57 New
                  +6
                  Quote: bk0010
                  Will there be a link?

                  There will be no, but there will be flood and chatter yes
                4. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 July 2020 22: 41 New
                  -6
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  There will be no, but there will be flood and chatter


                  You consider everything that is not related to your lies "flood and chatter"
                  And his lies are very clever propaganda. But you overestimate yourself.
                5. bk0010
                  bk0010 26 July 2020 23: 02 New
                  +2
                  This is not "terminate the investigation", does not fit.
          3. Roman123567
            Roman123567 27 July 2020 10: 27 New
            -3
            Nice little ...
            What other crimes are you willing to justify?


            It's funny .. a dude who supports one of the largest organized crime groups in the Kremlin talks about acquitting criminals ..
            Where is this world heading ..))
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    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 51 New
      -5
      Quote: Bad
      Shoulder blades, engage in artillery, or did you personally know the murdered man? I happened to know him, in those days there were no saints in this business.

      You will now tell me about the fact that Furgal had every right to kill, and he cannot be punished for this ...
      How interesting.
      And if someone thinks that it is not worth standing up for you either, because you are clearly "so-so" ... After all, a normal person will not write such indecency ...

      And for me personally, the identity of the murdered person does not matter. However, you with your upbringing and immoral qualities are unlikely to understand this.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 15: 47 New
        19
        Quote: Spade
        You will now tell me about the fact that Furgal had every right to kill, and he cannot be punished for this ...

        You are some kind of irrepressible, to say the least ... fool
        ANSWER ITEMS:
        1. THE COURT IN THE CASE OF FURGAL S.AND. HELD?
        2. THE COURT HAS IMMEDIATED A JUDGMENT WHERE THE WINE OF FURGAL S.AND. PROVEN?
        3. DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUDICIAL RULES AND LOST OF TRUST?
        Then why the hell are you here wandering about the investigator, who has in his hands the materials of the inquiry, the testimony of the defendant and witnesses and the data of the examination?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 16: 16 New
          -14
          Quote: ROSS 42
          You are kind of irrepressible, to say the least ... fool
          ANSWER ITEMS:
          1. THE COURT IN THE CASE OF FURGAL S.AND. HELD?
          2. THE COURT HAS IMMEDIATED A JUDGMENT WHERE THE WINE OF FURGAL S.AND. PROVEN?
          3. DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUDICIAL RULES AND LOST OF TRUST?



          ANSWER MY QUESTION: WILL THERE BE A COURT AT ALL, IF THE MAIN REQUIREMENT OF THE APPLICANTS WILL BE FULFILLED TO TERMINATE THE INVESTIGATION IN RESPECT OF THE VAN

          What do you call it?
          Has your company rushed to defend the protestors without even asking what they are demanding?
          Or are you just doing demagoguery out of habit?

          Once again, for the especially communist,
          "Narot" demands to STOP the investigation into the possible murderer.
          "narot" demands the RELEASE of a possible murderer so that he can eliminate witnesses and influence the investigation
          "Narot" demands a trial in Khabarovsk, and a jury trial, so that the possible murderer and his accomplices have the opportunity to influence the trial.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 26 July 2020 16: 54 New
            +7
            Quote: Spade
            "Narot" demands a trial in Khabarovsk, and a jury trial, so that the possible murderer and his accomplices have the opportunity to influence the trial.

            Are you denying the jury? Of course, it would be better to move to Moscow and arrange a closed trial. Based on the testimony of one cancer patient who can be pressured simply by not providing him with pain medications
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 26 July 2020 16: 57 New
            -13
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Are you denying the jury?

            Well, again, demagoguery.
            What is a "jury trial" if the main requirement is the termination of the investigation?
            There is no investigation, there are no courts.

            And yes, "jury trial" I deny.
            I want to remind you that what is happening now in the United States with the "negro-revolution" happened precisely "thanks" to the jury trial. At one time acquitted obvious criminals
          3. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 26 July 2020 17: 02 New
            +8
            Quote: Spade
            What kind of "jury trial" if the main requirement is the termination of the investigation?

            You yourself will then decide what your "narot" requires before you rush with demagoguery. Well, damn it you wrote about the jury trial, above - I quoted you. wassat
            They demand a court in Khabarovsk and it is the local court, and not the termination of the investigation. And if the state cannot provide a normal court in Khabarovsk where everything happened and where the people chose Furgala (I hope there are no questions here) as the head, then these are questions to the top, and not to the Khabarovsk people and Furgal
          4. Lopatov
            Lopatov 26 July 2020 18: 53 New
            -8
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Then you yourself will decide what your "narot" requires

            Actually, I've already decided ...
            Do you know how to read Russian?

            Quote: Stirbjorn
            They demand a court in Khabarovsk and it is the local court,

            To make it easier to influence it?
            As was the case with the murderer Zhuravlev, who, thanks to Furgal's influence on the trial, received only a year and a half.
            A year and a half for the murder of a person who caused the displeasure of the "people's choice" ... cool.
            Narot requires a repetition of the banquet?

            Quote: Stirbjorn
            and not the termination of the investigation.

            Did your parents teach you that lying is not good?
          5. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 26 July 2020 23: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            Did your parents teach you that lying is not good?

            Oh damn, Mr. "Chief Commentator VO", better comment on your guns, as you have already been advised wassat
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 29 New
    +6
    Quote: Spade
    Has your company rushed to defend the protestors without even asking what they are demanding?

    This Saturday Khabarovsk citizens demanded "Putin's resignation"!
    You can watch the gist from 3:25 am!
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 31 New
    -10
    Quote: Stroporez
    This Saturday Khabarovsk citizens demanded "Putin's resignation"!

    A local wrote in his blog that "Putin's resignation" was demanded by "navalnata"
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 54 New
    +7
    Quote: Spade
    A local wrote in his blog that "Putin's resignation" was demanded by "navalnata"

    YouTube is full of vidos, where this demand was chanted by all the protesters, of whom this time there were 80 thousand, unambiguously
    YAKUTIA supported KHABAROVSK !!!
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 57 New
    -10
    Quote: Stroporez
    YouTube is full of vidos, where this demand was chanted by all the protesters, of whom this time there were 80 thousand, unambiguously

    I trust the local more. For you, excuse me, have been lying completely long ago.
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 26 July 2020 21: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    I trust the local more. For you, excuse me, have been lying completely long ago.

    I noted that you accuse all opponents of lying, only one can follow from this, who shouts the loudest, that wallet and cut.
    and who do you believe / do not believe I really do not care.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 26 July 2020 21: 31 New
    -6
    Quote: Stroporez
    I noted that you accuse all opponents of lying

    Just for some reason lately you and your colleagues have started to dump too much obviously false information.
    So the question is not for me, the question is for your team.

    Who made you declare in several posts below that Alexander "serves"? I AM? No, this is your personal initiative.
    Who made you declare that I consider Serdyukov a good reformer? Again, you lied on your own initiative, I did not force you.



    Quote: Stroporez
    only one who shouts loudest, that wallet and cut.

    What a precise definition.
    Only now it is not me who is shouting, you and your comrades-in-arms are shouting ...
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 27 July 2020 10: 29 New
    -2
    Then why the hell are you roaming around here?

    Because this is Lopatov .. and that says it all ..
    Whoever has debated at least a couple of times knows that the logic is nullified there ..))
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 July 2020 13: 34 New
    0
    Why the hell are you tearing a T-shirt on your chest? The trial has not yet taken place, the materials of the criminal case are available. Wait for the court, EPRST, and do not make a storm in a glass of water! Thieves and murderers must go to jail. And who is the thief and the murderer will be decided by the court, not the crowd.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 July 2020 13: 29 New
    0
    And bombs. Only there are a lot of fools and the "opposition" (more precisely, not the opposition, but a fed fifth column), having a lot of free time and working professionally, we amateurs, crushes with left profiles. laughing
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 26 July 2020 19: 53 New
    +3
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    because it's pointless. You always serve the current government, regardless of its type ..

    does not "serve", but serves.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 36 New
      -3
      Quote: Stroporez
      does not "serve", but serves.

      There is no such word, "serves" ....
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: Spade
        There is no such word, "serves" ....

        The main thing is that the meaning is clear, and the gadget can be described by any individual. "AND"!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 56 New
          -4
          Quote: Stroporez
          The main thing is that the meaning is clear

          Naturally understandable.
          Mr. "Stroporez" slandered a completely unfamiliar person, because he cannot put up with the fact that he has his own opinion.
          Didn’t forget anything?
  • Snarkxnumx
    Snarkxnumx 26 July 2020 12: 32 New
    +3
    "I think there is no need to bite from under the tishka."
    You are blind and deaf. I can’t believe that the “man” does not see that the country with such a government is falling into the abyss. There was no one who managed to govern the country without the will of the people.
    The poor people are the opposition.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 55 New
      -5
      Quote: Snark1876
      There was no one who managed to govern the country without the will of the people.

      And you, I see, took the trouble to express the general opinion of the Russian people?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 15: 55 New
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        And you, I see, took the trouble to express the general opinion of the Russian people?

        And we have the right to do so, because our life is not spoiled either by benefits, or by special conditions, or by living in "elite" (closed) settlements ... We do not have billionaire friends ... There are not even millionaires among our entourage. We are treated with affordable medicines in the district clinic ...
        There are tens of millions of people like us with a small difference in income ...
        The authorities are trying to fool people like us, to turn them into an obedient herd of rams with threats, violence, indifference, disregard for fate ...
        If people like you start to speak out in public, then they are unlikely to get off with rotten tomatoes. Therefore, you "squeeze" your inventions only on sites where, at best, you can draw a stick.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 16: 04 New
          -10
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And we have the right to do so

          "We, Nicholas II ....." (c)
          You personally can only express your own opinion.

          Give up these royal habits already.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 17: 41 New
            +7
            Quote: Spade
            Give up these royal habits already.

            These are not tsarist habits ... There are over 500 of us alone ... And who are you from here? If I'm not mistaken, are you a supporter of VAT at 000% and pensions at 20-60 years? So tell me, why are you, supporters of the state-oligarchic model, so zealously defending your rights obtained during the reign of the EBN?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 18: 41 New
              -9
              Quote: ROSS 42
              There are more than 500 of us in the party alone.

              And they delegated you the right to speak on their behalf?
              What if I ask my neighbor? I'm afraid he doesn't even know you
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 20 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            "We, Nicholas II ....." (c)
            You personally can only express your own opinion.

            And I subscribe to the opinion of ROSS 42!
            Now "WE" will sound !!!
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 20: 39 New
              -5
              Also megalomania?
              Noticeable ...
            2. andrew42
              andrew42 27 July 2020 18: 21 New
              +3
              I also join. The revolutionary Motovilikha is with you! All our troubles came from such "beavers" who are pulling the blanket over themselves, and on which in the conditional 1988 the shovel was not found.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 26 July 2020 14: 34 New
      -6
      Quote: Snark1876
      flies into the abyss.

      laughing laughing laughing However, political scientists from the bourgeoisie are still ... fellow
      Quote: Snark1876
      Poor people

      Oh, what was required to be proved - and a stamp at the end. yes
    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. 26 July 2020 15: 49 New
      -9
      Quote: Snark1876
      Poor people

      And who said that the people are "poor"? Many retirees live quite wow. They have apartments, dachas, cars, even if they are not chic, but they cannot be compared with the 90s, when your "oppositionists" were in power. And then, it is the "beggar" people who decide who will be in power and will not allow you into power under any circumstances, so do not hope, it is better to go and work honestly.
      1. Kisa
        Kisa 26 July 2020 16: 24 New
        14
        if a military or police pension has some kind of logical explanation, how do you explain the additional pension that is accrued in Moscow to ordinary pensioners? Are there harsh conditions or are they extracting resources? ... and what is worse in Khabarovsk
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 July 2020 17: 25 New
          12
          Quote: kitty
          if a military or police pension has some kind of logical explanation, how do you explain the additional pension that is accrued in Moscow to ordinary pensioners? Are there harsh conditions or are they extracting resources? ... and what is worse in Khabarovsk

          The explanation is simple .. fear .. if Moscow comes out, they will sweep away all of them nafig .. run to London, so much so that the heels will only sparkle ...
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 27 July 2020 18: 31 New
            +2
            Unfortunately, no Moscow will go anywhere. There are at least 5 million social parasites, and even heels of cartoons "hoping" for an increase in crumbs in the bright capitalist future. As the capital of the Russian state, Moscow is already a "dead table", nothing sacred, just a business nativity scene, a separate "state". Yes, real native Muscovites, hard workers and clever people forgive me, but this is a bitter truth. He is Muscovite by birth, and that is why it is bitter. "We will stock up on this, food and drink in the capital city. The enemy will see that the capital is eating and drinking and having fun. He will tremble from fear!" ... "- A.S. Pushkin "The Tale of the Golden Cockerel".
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 July 2020 16: 06 New
      -10
      "The country has been flying into the abyss for 30 years already" - Is it flying too long, maybe it is someone in their fantasies that something flies into the abyss.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 18: 02 New
        +8
        Quote: Vadim237
        Doesn't it fly too long, maybe it's someone in fantasies that something flies into the abyss.

        What is the abyss? We are at the top of the mountain ... There, in the ass, Portugal puffs, swallows dust ...

        In the morning I will look out of the window -
        The Red Square is visible.
        And that damned abyss
        I don't see a damn thing.

        I'll go out and look into the corridor, -
        There il a swindler, or a thief.
        Sorry, I made a reservation -
        Either the minister, or the prosecutor.

        And articles that are from the budget
        All are known to me in full.
        And behind the door in the office
        Deathly silence.
    5. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 26 July 2020 17: 56 New
      -11
      Quote: Snark1876
      There was no one who managed to govern the country without the will of the people.

      The famous phrase of François Mitterrand: "What a pity that everyone who knows how to run the state already works as taxi drivers or hairdressers."
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 26 July 2020 20: 24 New
        +9
        Quote: Vladimir_6

        The famous phrase of François Mitterrand: "What a pity that everyone who knows how to run the state already works as taxi drivers or hairdressers."

        After the disastrous elections for the dog-dog-Putin pack in St. Petersburg in 1996, pvv, I just wanted to become the director of a taxi company, that's where he belongs.
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 26 July 2020 20: 57 New
          -12
          Quote: Stroporez
          After the disastrous elections for the dog-dog-Putin pack in St. Petersburg in 1996, pvv, I just wanted to become the director of a taxi company, that's where he belongs.

          Each person is in the place he deserves. Vladimir Vladimirovich runs the state in the Kremlin, and "fighters against the regime" spew bile. This is your lot of envious people and losers. For each of you, the phrase is appropriate: "If so smart, why not the president?"
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 27 July 2020 12: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          After the disastrous elections for the dog-dog-Putin pack in St. Petersburg in 1996, pvv, I just wanted to become the director of a taxi company, that's where he belongs.

          But life has judged differently (who has what place)
    6. blackies
      blackies 26 July 2020 20: 02 New
      -14
      how old are you son? look at the poverty near the hyper. they have nothing to eat. from idleness all these protests
  • snucerist
    snucerist 26 July 2020 14: 20 New
    11
    "And we ordinary workers and pensioners do not care ..."
    Maybe. If you receive a military pension.
    The pension of ordinary workers, unfortunately, is somewhat less. And for some reason they care.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 34 New
      -11
      Quote: snucerist
      Maybe. If you receive a military pension.
      The pension of ordinary workers, unfortunately, is somewhat less.

      He had a choice, he chose a more difficult option. And you blame him?

      I remember we had such a Major A. A notoriously frostbitten uncle, after him the infantry would rush into fire and water.
      And here we are sitting on the armor, each watching his own sector. Behind their backs, the tankers were pulling in with ropes, they managed to put the tank on its belly in the mud. Wet, dirty, frozen to a shiver ... Eyes are red, like vampires
      And now I hear Major A says "B ... what ... I didn't go to the engineer" ... I just fell out.
      1. Terrible
        Terrible GMO 26 July 2020 15: 10 New
        11
        Quote: Spade
        He had a choice, he chose a more difficult option. And you blame him?

        The military always thinks of themselves as the navel of the earth. Your retirement and early access to it are provided by workers of thousands of specialties with much more importance, but much less salary and pension. Many of whom never live to see it.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 15: 25 New
          -8
          Quote: TerribleGMO
          The military always thinks of themselves as the navel of the earth. Your retirement and early access to it are provided by workers of thousands of specialties with much more importance, but much less salary and pension.

          Exactly.
          And what prevented them from going to the military?

          I will answer you.
          Irregular working hours and working weeks
          The inability to independently choose the place of service.
          High probability of death, injury and disability as a result of it
          And so on. The military are limited in most of their civil rights and freedoms, which, in fact, is replaced by benefits.

          Everyone chooses their own.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 26 July 2020 15: 35 New
            -7
            Quote: Spade
            Everyone chooses their own.

            I completely agree with you! The whole paradox is that all the local "oppositionists" want how we should live - they chose. They just want to deprive us of that choice. It will not be in their language, no matter how they are indignant here and minus! hi
          2. Terrible
            Terrible GMO 27 July 2020 17: 55 New
            -3
            Quote: Spade
            High probability of death, injury and disability as a result of it

            The probability of injury is high, I admit it. Especially a lot of injuries from the transfer of papers.

            Tell us about the high probability of death and disability for chemical workers. factories and "monsters" like Norilsk Nickel and the like. Those who are dying from oncology by 40, and without which the country will definitely be dying.

            90% of the military in the Russian Federation and 100% in the same RB can get the only injury - they cut themselves with paper.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 July 2020 18: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: TerribleGMO
              The probability of injury is high, I admit it. Especially a lot of injuries from the transfer of papers.

              Yeah, "papers" ...
              Here in my class only one "in civilian life" remained, he entered the Moscow Aviation Institute. The rest are schools. Still a military town ...
              They fought from the ALL class. The first dead from the class is a date, a graduate of Yaroslavsky. Mortar shelling. The first disabled engineer. He graduated from Tyumen, was assigned to the vovchik, lost his legs.
              You have it.
              Therefore, there is no need for fairy tales.



              Quote: TerribleGMO
              90% of the military in the Russian Federation and 100% in the same RB can get the only injury - they cut themselves with paper.

              That is why you did not go there, to earn a large pension for free?
              Or flat feet prevented?
        2. bistrov.
          bistrov. 26 July 2020 16: 02 New
          -3
          Quote: TerribleGMO
          Your retirement and early access to it are provided by employees of thousands of specialties with much greater importance,

          You worked 8 hours and went to warm your belly on the couch, and all weekends, holidays at home you drink beer and vodka, and the military came to the barracks at 6 o'clock on the rise and sometimes left after 23.00, day off, holiday, and he is steaming in his outfit under equipment, then it proceeds, and exercises, in the winter taiga for half a month, and business trips, and sometimes a tyrant commander poisons your life with his whims, and you have to obey and carry out ... And then, what prevented you from going into the army, "retirement earn"? There weren't too many people willing ...
      2. snucerist
        snucerist 26 July 2020 16: 05 New
        +5
        Nobody blames anyone for anything.
        I just remind you that the pension of a common worker is less than the pension of a person in uniform. Will you dispute this fact?
        Hardly.
        That is why I say that a simple worker may have more reasons to be interested in what is happening in Russia, the size of his pension and the prospects for its increase. He lives in Russia, and not in Ukraine, Syria, the United States, etc., about which for some reason only all TV channels talk.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 16: 41 New
          -10
          Quote: snucerist
          I just remind you that the pension of a common worker is less than the pension of a person in uniform. Will you dispute this fact?

          I will.
          Let's compare the military pension and the miner's pension?
          Or a metallurgist. For example, working in an electrolysis workshop where the clock stops ...
          Or a pilot ...
          Or welded with its own brand that pipelines are welded in the north ...

          But you know what is the most interesting. When the miner realizes that "everyone has arrived, there is no need to take any more risks", he will turn around and go to the dacha to huddle cucumbers. And he will be fired for that. And the military will go to jail.
          1. snucerist
            snucerist 26 July 2020 19: 00 New
            11
            Let's compare the percentage of these people. The same miners or metallurgists with people in uniform. Just don't talk only about the military, not only they wear shoulder straps. And a bunch of employees of various law enforcement agencies. By the way, they also receive pensions, which are also different from the pension of a simple worker, whom some comrades love to mention and try on his status for themselves, who have not carved a single nut in their lives, but only consume material goods produced by others.
            Welded with a stigma were considered ... Aren't you ashamed? Have you even worked in production? Do you represent the number of such welders on the scale of at least one region?
            Would you like to announce the retirement of an ordinary engineer? Shop foremen? An ordinary technologist, builder, teacher, paramedic, livestock breeder, accountant, mechanic, plasterer, painter, electrician, locksmith, carpenter? Pensions of the category of people, which, in fact, creates material values ​​in Russia? On which the country's economy rests?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 19: 17 New
              -10
              Quote: snucerist
              Let's compare the percentage of these people. The same miners or metallurgists with people in uniform.

              Can.
              And then let's compare the percentage of left-handers in these groups. And then the number of people with glasses ...
              But why?

              Quote: snucerist
              some comrades who have not carved a single nut in their lives

              All the military are sharpening their nuts. Definitely. At the school.
              In general, military schools provide a lot of practice. I learned a lot there, from carpentry and paving to working on a sewing machine.
              So it goes...
              Can you change the gasket in the tap with one knife bayonet?

              Quote: snucerist
              Have you even worked in production?

              Yeah. And now I work.
              In general, I started working in the 9th grade at school. Janitor. In Siberia. Half the bet.

              Quote: snucerist
              Pensions of the category of people, which, in fact, creates material values ​​in Russia?

              Material values? The teacher does not create them. Like a paramedic, like a military man. Here, damn it, bad luck, right?
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 27 July 2020 18: 42 New
            +2
            Lopatov, if it was so scary that they would be jailed, it was necessary to quit the service. Apparently there were bonuses for which it was worth pulling the "terrible" strap. And they can put anyone they want, for example, a security guard from one of the "Winter Cherry", or an electrician from the "Lame Horse", for this it is not necessary to be a military man, handsome, hefty. Found something to brag about. A military man generally chooses a profession with a risk to his life, he must be ready to give his life for his people, but here prison is scary! Oh how!
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 July 2020 18: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: andrew42
              Lopatov, if it was so scary that they would be jailed, it was necessary to quit the service.

              Right. Quitting long and hard, going through a bunch of instances. Moreover, the higher your position, the higher the decision is made.
              Imagine a miner being fired through Moscow, and several months after the application was submitted.
      3. Snarkxnumx
        Snarkxnumx 26 July 2020 16: 34 New
        +5
        I didn't go to the engineer "... I just fell out.
        Thinking that these economists Grefomiler will leave you your pension ,. There will be no economy, there will be no your pensions either. Then "God Save the Tsar" will sound for you
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 16: 43 New
          -3
          Quote: Snark1876
          I didn't go to the engineer "... I just fell out.

          Me too ... It was hard to imagine him as an engineer. Moreover, for him it was already the third war.
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 26 July 2020 18: 19 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Snark1876
            I didn't go to the engineer "... I just fell out.

            Me too ... It was hard to imagine him as an engineer. Moreover, for him it was already the third war.

            Lopatov, and Shaw in the military school does not issue a diploma of higher technical education? or Serpukhov Secondary Infantry School and FSE ...
            ,, ... and I told him,
            captain never when you become a major ... ''
            Think about the numbers:
            One needs to work until retirement 48 and live
            The second has 20 calendars and ... to teach others to live (well, everything is straight in a burning tank)
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 18: 39 New
              -2
              Quote: Skalendarka
              Lopatov, and Shaw in the military school does not issue a diploma of higher technical education?

              Yes.
              But he received his diploma even during the Soviet era, so if there is an engineering specialty, then that is also ... Like "engineer for the operation of armored vehicles"

              By the way, now engineering degrees seem to be hacked to death.
              1. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 26 July 2020 19: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Skalendarka
                Lopatov, and Shaw in the military school does not issue a diploma of higher technical education?

                Yes.
                But he received his diploma even during the Soviet era, so if there is an engineering specialty, then that is also ... Like "engineer for the operation of armored vehicles"

                By the way, now engineering degrees seem to be hacked to death.

                How so? You can't just throw out the words from the song:
                serious military equipment, requires attention from us ...
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 26 July 2020 19: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Skalendarka
                How is that?

                As far as I know, the infantry are now "managers, personnel management specialists"
                For artillery, "electrical engineer" was replaced by "special electrical systems, and so on."
                Serdyukov reforms successfully completed under Shoigu
              3. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 26 July 2020 19: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Serdyukov reforms successfully completed under Shoigu

                How !! And is the amnestied thief Serdyukov also a good reformer? Now I have the entirety of an oil painting.
              4. Lopatov
                Lopatov 26 July 2020 19: 59 New
                -1
                Quote: Stroporez
                Now I have the entirety of the oil painting.

                Well, naturally. You don't like to think like that.
                laughing laughing laughing

                A tricky question: where did I say that this reform was correct?
                If you look at all my posts about this, I have always been against it.

                They sat down again in a puddle ...
              5. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 26 July 2020 21: 29 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                A tricky question: where did I say that this reform was correct?

                Quote: Spade
                Serdyukov reforms successfully completed under Shoigu

                Who wrote this? You at least read what you write, and then one nonsense.
              6. Lopatov
                Lopatov 26 July 2020 21: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: Stroporez

                Quote: Spade
                Serdyukov reforms successfully completed under Shoigu

                Who wrote this? You at least read what you write, and then one nonsense.


                An immodest question: is Russian your native language? Do you have dyslexia?
                Such a difficult case of not understanding the meaning of the simplest phrase ...

                Vasya began to break the TV, Seryozha successfully finished it. This is how much it is necessary to be alternatively gifted in order to find approval for breaking the TV in this phrase ????
                laughing laughing laughing laughing

                Chess word, you have really big problems ...
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 26 July 2020 15: 17 New
    -3
    Quote: snucerist
    "And we ordinary workers and pensioners do not care ..."
    Maybe. If you receive a military pension.
    The pension of ordinary workers, unfortunately, is somewhat less. And for some reason they care.

    You will be surprised, but to your regret, I am a simple Russian pensioner who retired 5 years ago and quit working only this year. Does this tell you anything? I overworked for 5 years, why do you think? Probably not for the sake of my allegedly large pension! Yes, the pension is not large, besides, it has not been indexed since 2016, as a working pensioner. Do you think I agreed with all this? No, of course I do not agree! But I was working, not shouting "down with Putin" at every corner. Because I know that another government will come and it will only get worse and I can lose this pension too. It already happened when the pensioners could not get their pitiful pennies. The previous president showed this in all its glory. And now, looking back at my past years, I live by the principle: "do not wake up smartly while it is quiet"! It is young people who want drive and revolutions, while we pensioners, beaten by life, want peace and kindness, especially for our children and grandchildren - so that they are happy and successful.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 July 2020 15: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: SRC P-15
      It is young people who want drive and revolutions, but we pensioners, beaten by life, want peace and goodness,

      Putin probably also reasoning laughing Old man, there is nothing to do anymore ... I want peace, but my friends have little money ..
      And unlike you, Putin thinks about his relatives, and not only about himself .. for great-grandchildren already probably work because the grandchildren are provided .. and you only think about yourself. Do you have any grandchildren? Are you not afraid that with such managers, your grandchildren will drag out a miserable existence in the richest country in the world?
      ... Because I know: another power will come and it will only get worse

      Who told you this? Wang? Why should it necessarily be worse?
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 26 July 2020 15: 48 New
        -2
        Quote: Svarog
        Do you have any grandchildren?

        Read the comments until the end!
        Quote: Svarog
        Who told you this? Wang? Why should it necessarily be worse?

        But this you will find out when you overthrow the hated Putin! Does the collapse of the USSR mean anything to you? After all, then the majority remained silent, hoping that it would be better. If Putin is not good for you now, then I can imagine how you would be indignant under Yeltsin. Our people are wise, because it is not in vain that he uttered: "They do not seek good from good!"
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 July 2020 15: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: SRC P-15
          If Putin is not good for you now, then I can imagine how you would be indignant under Yeltsin. Our people are wise, because it is not in vain that he uttered: "They do not seek good from good!"

          He served his first term normally. It was good. Then the good became less, now, for the last 6 years, the evil is solid .. And if you look at why the evil, it becomes clear that for 20 years he did not do anything fundamental .. Oil was high in price and it was more or less, oil fell and arrived. Don't even remember Yeltsin and Gorbachev, they need to smear their foreheads with brilliant green .. and not to build monuments and pay pensions of 600 tons.
          Our wise people have uttered a lot of things .. Those who don't take risks don't drink champagne ..
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 26 July 2020 16: 11 New
            -7
            Quote: Svarog
            He served his first term normally. It was good.

            That's right, it was good when Putin stroked the West's fur - before the Munich speech. But then there were sanctions, which did not add development to our country. And after the Crimea, Donbass and Syria, sanctions fell like a horn of plenty. Has this added advantages to our economy again? Is Putin also to blame for the drop in price of oil? Have the sanctions against Nord Stream 2 also brought extra capital to our piggy bank? Understand, there is a war going on against us and it will end only when Russia is destroyed. And Russia can only be destroyed from within. These are the people like you, seekers of a new life, and will help them. As it said: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions!"
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 26 July 2020 16: 24 New
              +9
              Quote: SRC P-15
              But then there were sanctions, which did not add development to our country. And after the Crimea, Donbass and Syria, sanctions fell like a horn of plenty. Has this added advantages to our economy again?

              Pluses should not be added by sanctions, but by the actions of the country's leadership .. The USSR lived under sanctions all the time, but this did not interfere, and during the reign of Stalin, the USSR became a great empire. What did Putin do? What did he do for 20 years when there were unprecedented oil prices? Nothing, I made money with friends ..
              Is Putin also to blame for the drop in price of oil?

              Of course, why can't we get off the oil needle? And why during his reign, he allowed to take out of the country about 1 trillion. dollars .. Can you imagine what kind of money it is?
              Understand, there is a war going on against us and it will end only when Russia is destroyed

              Of course there is a war, only our leadership is not fighting on the side of the people, but for the enemy .. Otherwise it is difficult to explain how they are fighting, but property, children and money are all sent to the enemy .. You are right, there is a war against us and we are 400 tons of people every year ... in an average city we are annihilated every year ... and they do it by the hands of the Gauleiters who are now in power.
              And Russia can only be destroyed from within. Such are you, seekers of a new life, and will help them

              I will answer you with the words of Zh. Alferov ..
              Why do I need such a state ..
              As it said: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions!"

              This is where we are heading, because the country's leadership has only intentions and no actions and no responsibility ..
            2. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 26 July 2020 16: 45 New
              -7
              Quote: Svarog
              The USSR lived under sanctions all the time, but this did not interfere and during the reign of Stalin, the USSR became a great empire. What did Putin do? What did he do for 20 years when there were unprecedented oil prices?

              How I would like to send you during the reign of Stalin! So that you can find out how at that time you could get a deadline for being late for work. For spikelets collected from the harvested collective farm field, get a real deadline. Work from dawn to dusk for workdays on the farm. Live and be afraid that the neighbor will send an anonymous letter to you and they will take you away, and the room in the communal apartment will go to the neighbor. But what am I telling you, you already know it. But in general, I support Stalin - at that time it was impossible to do otherwise, the country had to be developed at an accelerated pace
              Now, do you want Putin to use the same methods? - Hardly! Then you will not have the opportunity to sit at the computer - and this is the biggest loss for you (maybe earnings).
              Quote: Svarog
              Of course, there is a war, only our leadership is not fighting on the side of the people, but for the enemy .. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain how they are fighting, but property, children and money are all sent to the enemy ..

              And here it is our fault - we ourselves elect such people to power. Putin issues the correct laws together with the Duma, but how they are implemented ... This is where Stalin would really come in handy.
            3. Svarog
              Svarog 26 July 2020 17: 02 New
              +9
              But in general, I support Stalin - at that time it was impossible to do otherwise, the country had to be developed at an accelerated pace
              Now, do you want Putin to use the same methods? -

              All in a bunch of people, horses, spikelets .. I wanted, I used to want Putin to just act .. at least do something, and not chew snot .. His decrees are not carried out, everyone is hammered on them .. and he says that the government is working correctly and he is satisfied .. You can imagine such an absurdity under Stalin .. No responsibility .. window dressing, promises and lies ..
              And here it is our fault - we ourselves elect such people to power. Putin issues the correct laws together with the Duma, but how they are implemented ... This is where Stalin would really come in handy.

              Akstite .. we do not choose anyone, they draw what they want, they use political technologies and cheating. Putin does not issue laws at all, he signs them .. and when he signs it is evident he does not even read them ..
        2. bk0010
          bk0010 26 July 2020 17: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: SRC P-15
          But then sanctions came, which did not add development to our country.
          Are you out of your mind? Putin stopped the country's development by joining the WTO. The sanctions against us helped to somehow overcome the consequences of this step.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 July 2020 16: 25 New
        -5
        "Then there was less good, now, for the last 6 years, in general, evil is solid." That is, since 2014, Putin has become evil, and what we had in 2014 is correct, the annexation of Crimea to Russia, large-scale foreign sanctions, a drop in oil prices and an information war against Russia - the West has increased funding for this area 10 times, a fall in the ruble exchange rate so that to compensate for budgetary losses from trade sanctions by falling oil prices and, in general, the entire trade turnover. Why don't you whine - just since 2014, the loot of all jaundice and pseudo-patriots has arrived in large quantities, so they and people like you flooded like sarniks after the rain "And if you look at why evil, it becomes clear that for 20 years he has not done anything fundamental. . "And what could he have done so Fundamental in these 20 years? You start talking about something - return to the topic of hungry and poor pensioners.
    2. Klingon
      Klingon 26 July 2020 16: 49 New
      +6
      We saw both Gorbachev and Yeltsin ... only Putin THEN and Putin are now two different Putin. you have to be blind and deaf not to notice it. Is it possible to trust a person who constantly changes his mind and does not achieve his own goals? Putin now is not for the people. it's only for a bunch of hangers-on and oligators good
  • snucerist
    snucerist 26 July 2020 16: 12 New
    +3
    "... and we, pensioners, beaten by life, want peace and goodness, especially for our children and grandchildren - so that they are happy and successful."
    It's your right. Have own opinion.
    But perhaps to achieve parity, we shouldn't deny people the right to have a different opinion? Different from yours? This is what some Khabarovsk residents are saying. It is a crime?
    Or only your opinion should determine the social policy of the state?
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 26 July 2020 16: 28 New
      -3
      Quote: snucerist
      It's your right. Have own opinion.

      Well, finally, at least someone allowed me to have an opinion! Until now, the opposite has been strenuously proved here.
      It is their right for people to have a different opinion from others and I support it. But no one has the right to impose their opinion on other people!
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 26 July 2020 23: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Well, finally, at least someone allowed me to have an opinion! Until now, the opposite has been strenuously proved here.

        You have strengthened me in my conviction that it is necessary by law to prohibit people who have reached, say, 65-70 years of age, from voting in elections, as well as from holding public office. What? Minor children are not allowed to vote. And old people are the same children. In old people, the brain grows old, degrades and, therefore, purely physiologically, they begin to oppose in every possible way all changes, changes. It's a shock to their brains. This is confirmed by doctors. And you yourself wrote that you no longer need anything, no changes. People like you, unwittingly, through your will at the polls, are a brake on the development of society, the economy and the country as a whole. I emphasize that you are not a financial burden, but an electorate that negatively affects the country by voting. This brake must be removed. Old people need to be taken care of, to ensure their comfortable old age, but the right to vote must be taken away. Old people are honored, but the future should not be determined by old or young people. This is my deep conviction.
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    2. andrew42
      andrew42 27 July 2020 18: 49 New
      +1
      The gracious pensioner, apparently, does not care about the children and grandchildren from the high bell tower. Or they are also nourishingly arranged and grandfathers have a reliable support.
  • volodimer
    volodimer 26 July 2020 20: 32 New
    +2
    Alexander, I haven’t put a minus yet, but your reaction to disagreement with your position suggests that you are looking at +/- Yes, I haven’t been jailed yet and I’m on Vladimir’s side, but not which GDP. “Do you really think that the population of the country is crazy about zeroing?” This is my question too!
  • tralmaster
    tralmaster 26 July 2020 11: 56 New
    -12
    For .. the dust to swallow the bloody liberals you will run first.
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 26 July 2020 13: 01 New
    +8
    First you need to decide - who is the opposition?
  • Hog
    Hog 26 July 2020 12: 52 New
    +4
    Quote: SRC P-15

    I don’t understand why I’m talking with oppositionists ...

    I don't understand either, anyone who at least in some way disagrees with the current government is already called an oppositionist, they will soon be called enemies of the people at such a pace.
    PS: Just what is better "urapatriot" or "oppositionist"?
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 13: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: SRC P-15
    I don’t understand at all why it’s worth communicating with the opposition ... what useful things can they say, except for feces that endlessly pour ...

    I no longer know who in Russia is considered the opposition and in relation to whom? belay
  • shark
    shark 26 July 2020 16: 37 New
    -8
    I look minus you. Not expected. An absolutely adequate comment. At VO, the protest electorate turns out to communicate. For me, this is how to disperse this crowd in Khabarovsk and there is nothing to conduct dialogues with this substance. Hard to disperse, rewrite the detainees. Dismissal from work (using the administrative reserve), raise the cost of housing and communal services. (well, they don't like Russia) to bring their children to expulsion from schools and kindergartens. So let's see who will open his mouth to the state in the future. The only way. Otherwise, the fate of Ukraine awaits us.
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 26 July 2020 23: 36 New
      +8
      Quote: shark
      For me, this is how to disperse this crowd in Khabarovsk and there is nothing to conduct dialogues with this substance. Hard to disperse, rewrite the detainees. Dismissal from work (using the administrative reserve), raise the cost of housing and communal services. (well, they don't like Russia) to bring their children to expulsion from schools and kindergartens. So let's see who will open his mouth to the state in the future. The only way

      Well done! Bravo! good Better yet, such dissenting people go straight to the gas chambers. What? Why stand on ceremony with them? We want to solve the main problem of the country (do you want Ukraine?)? We want. Then why stand on ceremony? And their children should be given for food to lions and wolves, there will be more benefit from them. Then we'll live fellow On Red Square, we will build a huge golden statue of the Russian Elbasy who was zeroed out in order to outshine the great leader of the Kyrgyz - Turkmenbashi and the entire Kim family in our beloved North Korea. The morning of each citizen will have to start with a five-minute prayer for health and in gratitude to the great PU, as well as the obligatory pronunciation of curses up to the seventh generation for all Americans and Europeans, not forgetting to mention separately: Abama ... At work, every 2 hours there should be a break for new prayers so that, God forbid, botox does not flow from his cheeks.
      Oh, all the good intentions for the country cannot even be listed now. Meanwhile, the time is already late, and tomorrow morning to work. I will add the rest of my thoughts tomorrow. Beaver to you, putreot of the Motherland hi
  • blackies
    blackies 26 July 2020 19: 59 New
    0
    you're right. only it is difficult to realize that this is life. and it will not be replaced by a van, Putin or bulk.
  • flicker
    flicker 26 July 2020 11: 47 New
    -3
    I don't understand at all
    Why do you need to understand?
    You didn't even watch the video, in less than 6 minutes from the moment the article was published, you already "checked in". bully
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 July 2020 13: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: flicker
      You didn't even watch the video, n

      I watched this video this morning .. on YouTube .. and if you had read my first comment more carefully, you would have understood it ..
  • cormorant
    cormorant 26 July 2020 12: 48 New
    -4
    Only it is not clear if so many problems have accumulated in the region and Furgal could not, apparently, even reduce them, why throw shit on Dektyarev. Four days a person in office. Has he already failed to fulfill some promise?
    1. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 26 July 2020 13: 55 New
      0
      I don’t understand either. There’s an ass in the region, but they’re drowning for a van involved in itlaughing
  • Vlad T
    Vlad T 26 July 2020 13: 06 New
    -4
    A young Degtyarev without charisma, with stupid proposals in the Duma, is an obvious failure for the authorities. The conclusion will be to whip up the movement to replace those who have lost their power. Vladimir Putin is constantly represented by make-up counterparts speaking from "ear tips", only the original has not been seen since 2008. I wonder why the West does not raise the question of why doubles are replacing the real V.V. Putin everywhere ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Vlad T
      this is an obvious failure for the authorities.

      LDPR is not power.
      1. Vlad T
        Vlad T 26 July 2020 14: 34 New
        0
        But Degtyarev, as an obvious candidate for the authorities, is perceived this way ... By the counterparts of the GDP (they can already be counted for five heels). I thought for a long time and came to the conclusion that the West also needs such a substitution, the campradors in power, the thieves' vertical, and the people of Russia are a colony without rights and a future in this situation ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Vlad T
          But Degtyarev, as a clear candidate for power

          He is not a "candidate for power". He is "looking from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia for the region given to them for feeding"
          The government candidate will win the elections next fall.
          1. Vlad T
            Vlad T 26 July 2020 14: 41 New
            0
            Who appointed him to the governor - Zhirinovsky or the president by his own decree? You confuse a little such pillar concepts ...
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 42 New
              -1
              Quote: Vlad T
              Who appointed him to governor - Zhirinovsky

              Most likely Zhirinovsky. If he still rules the LDPR party.
              1. Vlad T
                Vlad T 26 July 2020 15: 08 New
                +1
                A clown in the service of the authorities appoints governors, there is nothing more to talk to you, understanding is too different ...
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 July 2020 15: 18 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Vlad T
                  A clown in the service of the authorities appoints governors, there is nothing more to talk to you, understanding is too different ...

                  Конечно.
                  I call a spade a spade. I’m not trying to fit the facts into the picture.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 26 July 2020 14: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Vlad T
      Putin is constantly represented by make-up doubles speaking from "ear tips",

      Wow... belay However ... Talking Crazy Sprats are something ... fellow wassat
      1. Vlad T
        Vlad T 26 July 2020 14: 45 New
        +3
        First they say: “It can't be,” then: in what it is, at the end: it can't be otherwise .. Take an interest in the topic, in the Internet (there are a lot of materials in Yu-Tube, though they are diligently removed,) Find a portrait of B .In Putin before 2006, be surprised at the differences ... ...
  • dvina71
    dvina71 26 July 2020 15: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    I don’t understand at all why communicate with Degtyarev

    And I, as I understand, that the analysts of the security forces are limping on both legs.
    Most of the people did not come out to defend Furgal. I am more than sure that they do not even know the details about him, let alone the details of his governor's activities, but they kind of stood up for him, although people stood up for justice. Furgal's arrest is justified .. not justified .., but most importantly, it is not clear. What is it? Settlement of scores? Incomprehensible undercover games ..? And the unknown scares.
    Ie .. the simplest thing the authorities should do now. To take the former governor for ... I am sure there is something for ... and in jail. And then every day, while the people are protesting ... to select one more high-ranking official at the local level, I am sure the FSB will have about a dozen such wards ...
    Then people will understand that they are not a bargaining chip in the games of Moscow and local officials ..
    True, there is one peculiarity in this ... you cannot stop ... there will be a personnel shortage)))
  • Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 26 July 2020 15: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    I don’t understand why I’m talking to Degtyarev .. what useful things can he say, except for promises that flow endlessly and are not fulfilled ..


    Degtyarev is a representative of the authorities, those motorists (participants in the conversation) are the people. In the video I saw a dialogue between the government and society. What do you suggest? A revolution? I'm not so much a fan of VVP, but Degtyarev's words and explanations, in my opinion, were reasonable, people now demand the release of Furgal ... how? a person under investigation, his guilt should be determined by the court, and here no one should put pressure on the investigation and the court. Further, people have everyday problems (medicine, housing and communal services, salary, etc.) so everyone in the country so ... no matter what area you take, almost everywhere the same problems and they need to be solved. But not through the revolution and the Maidan, then we will come to chaos and the collapse of the USSR 2.0. only Russia.
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 26 July 2020 16: 54 New
      -1
      By the way, now I was watching an evening stream in Khabarovsk, where Degtyarev went out to talk with journalists and those protesters who stayed, which he noticed while flipping through the stream ... in the afternoon (4 hours ago on the stream) there was an elderly woman on the air who opposed Degtyareva and said that she was a native Khabarovsk resident, that she was unhappy with that and that .. and so on, in general the situation is understandable. But interestingly, after Degtyarev's speech and for a certain period of time, she is shown again (in the evening) and she continues the same line, 4-5 hours have passed, a lot of people have changed, but the same person gets into the camera and broadcasts ... and here doubts began to creep in, whether there were agitators and provocateurs there who mow under the disgruntled residents of Khabarovsk and aggravate the situation. People with microphones in white T-shirts, and one was broadcasting that he came from Yekaterinburg to support the protesters, so to speak .... in general, the situation there is difficult, everything was moving: the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Special Services, Journalists, provocateurs, disgruntled residents, etc. to understand there is not easy. But what am I personally convinced of, if there are problems (and they certainly are) they need to be solved in a civilized way, and through peaceful protest, and not so that to put forward unrealistic demands, shout louder than everyone and then, in general, almost call everyone to revolution, this is will only lead to the next collapse of the country, but the problem will not be solved, all issues need to be resolved through dialogue and legal methods.
  • Maz
    Maz 26 July 2020 15: 29 New
    0
    A video of an interview with a protester in Khabarovsk was posted on Facebook yesterday. A man in a cap, about forty, stands opposite and against the background of the Khabarovsk White House, in the square, among other protesters, observing a social distance. And he answers the question of the person filming him on video, says that he used to go to processions and protests just like that, but now, thank God, he is paid a thousand a day for each participation in the protests ... he calmly talks about something ordinary about which everyone is know their own. I tried to put a video here, but it doesn't work. here is the address - curiosity https://www.facebook.com/100014058258471/videos/947543352390931/

    The whole truth about protest
    "To hold a meeting for a thousand rubles" A participant in the Khabarovsk protests spoke about the tariffs for activism in support of Furgal ...
  • Maz
    Maz 26 July 2020 16: 21 New
    0
    Another video. A girl from Vladivostok was asked to come to Khabarovsk for a demonstration with a poster against Putin .... She told her neighbor in the ranks of the demonstrators. There is an inscription on the poster. Above: "For Furgala!" ... Below - "Against Putin!" Think for yourself, sho there for the contingent. https://www.facebook.com/100014058258471/videos/947543352390931/
    Not everyone is wearing masks, no more
    Khabarovsk! Well, why are you so worried
    Your van is only one of 13 governorsunder investigation
    And nowhere was there any commotion
    WHO WARM YOU SO SOMETHING
    Not guilty - released, guilty - imprisoned
    We have ONE law for everyone.
    Or is everything running there like that?
  • Maz
    Maz 26 July 2020 17: 06 New
    -1

    In order not to lose the paid protesters in the general crowd, the organizers literally mark them.
    Here's a spontaneous action ... here's your opposition, here's your paid Maidan. the question of who pays and orders is clear
  • zenion
    zenion 26 July 2020 17: 07 New
    +1
    What he shares is understandable, for this he was sent there.
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  • pepVvo
    pepVvo 26 July 2020 21: 26 New
    -5
    Let the person understand and do. It's less than a week in place. And if you do not give him the opportunity to do this, then you are just a balabol
  • Vend
    Vend 27 July 2020 10: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    I don’t understand why communicate with Degtyarev .. what can he say useful, except for promises that are endlessly poured and not fulfilled .. About the rise in gasoline prices, this is generally beyond the bounds, there is no competition .. Gasoline is getting more expensive everywhere and always .. and This comes from the irrepressible thirst for profit of a narrow group of people, which makes the country's population poorer from year to year ..

    But soon we'll find out whether he can do something or only promises will be made.
  • Vestnik
    Vestnik 26 July 2020 11: 04 New
    -24
    Already sick of this van and other protestors ..
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 July 2020 11: 06 New
      18
      Quote: Vestnik
      Already sick of this van and other protestors ..

      Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria. wink
      1. loki565
        loki565 26 July 2020 11: 15 New
        +6
        Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria

        And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))
        1. flicker
          flicker 26 July 2020 11: 38 New
          -6
          And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))
          Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye laughing
          I would not be surprised if Lev Leviev's or Vekselberg's ears, or both at once, are found behind all the rallies ("for Furgala") laughing
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 26 July 2020 12: 33 New
            +9
            After all, the circumcised are worried about Fukala and Khabarovsk, I even felt ashamed that I was so carelessly interested in Israel, and my feelings were not special. Vivat Israel, the mother of all offended thieves and murderers!
          2. Vestnik
            Vestnik 26 July 2020 14: 35 New
            -3
            Quote: flicker
            And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))
            Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye laughing
            I would not be surprised if Lev Leviev's or Vekselberg's ears, or both at once, are found behind all the rallies ("for Furgala") laughing

            I already asked Aaron a question on the forehead and it came ... - 4000 and complaints
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 July 2020 12: 23 New
          -2
          Quote: loki565
          Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria

          And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))

          Well, I can't pass Vitali even from Israel. wink
          1. Maz
            Maz 26 July 2020 16: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: loki565
            Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria

            And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))

            Well, I can't pass Vitali even from Israel. wink

            Aronchik so go to Jerusalem, there demonstrators, your compatriots, disperse gas and water cannons yesterday was just the case. Do not hesitate to tell everyone how they knit women and children in handcuffs in a shopping center, how they beat the police, throw stones and bottles ... let's teach Khabarovsk after that. Deal with your shit first, you have accumulated it above the roof. Lord of the Jews. And we ourselves will deal with our vans and their burps.

            Riots in Jerusalem on the night of July 26 (Photo: EPA)
            These are not Arabs, they are Jews. On July 25, a wave of protests swept across Israel against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the government and the government's actions to address the problems caused by the coronavirus. During the protests, clashes occurred repeatedly, in the Sderot area a resident of Kibbutz Habim was stabbed in the neck. The police detained 12 rioters.
        3. Vestnik
          Vestnik 26 July 2020 12: 26 New
          -2
          Quote: loki565
          Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria

          And which is closer to you, Khabarovsk or Israel ???)))

          Do not communicate with "comrades from Israel" .. They are very vindictive! I answered and received -4000 (in 30 minutes)))) .. laughing And probably the same number of complaints .. heh heh
          They do not like Russia and are already sitting here with all the organized kagal ... Judas to help them .. wassat
      2. Vestnik
        Vestnik 26 July 2020 11: 22 New
        -14
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria

        How do you in Israel want to squeeze us out of Syria .. Are we stopping you from robbing?
        And Khabarovsk is not a problem .. The court will begin there, I can feel it negative
        It is not for nothing that such information and finance resources are pumped up to keep the heat up.
        I don’t believe that there people just came out like “outraged” .. Nothing is done just like that .. There is no chance of your interests Aron? wink
        PS As for Syria, as for Khabarovsk Rosstoyanie is the same .. This is not your Israel, which can be bypassed on a bike heh laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 July 2020 11: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Vestnik
          I don’t believe that there people just came out like “outraged” .. Nothing is done just like that ..

          Of course it's not just that, Furgal is a reason, everyone is tired of parasites sucking the last blood ..
          1. IGOR GORDEEV
            IGOR GORDEEV 26 July 2020 13: 18 New
            +8
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Vestnik
            I don’t believe that there people just came out like “outraged” .. Nothing is done just like that ..

            Of course it's not just that, Furgal is a reason, everyone is tired of parasites sucking the last blood ..

            Svarog Solid slogans. Everything is bad. Everything was stolen, sold, divided ... How do you live in this world? The same thing in your comments over the years on this site. Alarming.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 26 July 2020 13: 57 New
              -4
              Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
              Svarog Solid slogans. Everything is bad. Everything was stolen, sold, divided ... How do you live in this world? The same thing in your comments over the years on this site. Alarming.

              So from year to year it only gets worse .. or does it not worry you? Surprisingly, the population is dying out, impoverished .. and you are alarmed that I am writing that everything is bad ..
              1. Ded_Mazay
                Ded_Mazay 26 July 2020 15: 15 New
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                the population is dying out, impoverished ..

                Then I see that there are more and more brand-new Land Cruisers in my provincial town ...
                1. andrew42
                  andrew42 27 July 2020 18: 57 New
                  0
                  And all your Kruzaks? Or are there neighbors? - in YOUR town .. :)
            2. Vestnik
              Vestnik 26 July 2020 14: 40 New
              0
              Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
              Svarog Solid slogans. Everything is bad. Everything was stolen, sold, divided ... How do you live in this world? The same thing in your comments over the years on this site. Alarming.

              Whine whine whine and whine .. This is their simple tactic!
              You will ask the question for whom you are and what do you offer .. And the barking starts cons, etc. negative They got it already and began to hide behind Soviet symbols
            3. flicker
              flicker 26 July 2020 15: 21 New
              +3
              Svarog Solid slogans. Everything is bad. Everything was stolen, sold, divided ...
              There is such a profession - to kick the Motherland. yes
              1. Vestnik
                Vestnik 26 July 2020 15: 52 New
                0
                Quote: flicker
                Svarog Solid slogans. Everything is bad. Everything was stolen, sold, divided ...
                There is such a profession - to kick the Motherland. yes

                Very popular and profitable ... There are so many of them, you don't have time to snap back angry
              2. bk0010
                bk0010 26 July 2020 17: 19 New
                +4
                Who is among the thieves kicked for you Homeland?
          2. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 26 July 2020 14: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Vestnik
            I don’t believe that there people just came out like “outraged” .. Nothing is done just like that ..

            Of course it's not just that, Furgal is a reason, everyone is tired of parasites sucking the last blood ..

            bredyatina.just pay for the van. When the pension reform was adopted, that lcd van sat on the ass exactly. so there were no protests, and then when it burned out, the rallies went
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 26 July 2020 14: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Svarog
            everyone is tired of the parasites sucking the last blood ..

            Rather, the brain - apparently, that's why there is no pushing through the "sucked" ones. fellow laughing
        2. Machito
          Machito 26 July 2020 11: 31 New
          23
          Wet Furgal or not. Who cares? It is immediately clear that this is a zakazuha because of the dough. The killer was in power for 15 years, in high positions. Here already questions to the governor's authorities arise: How did the killer become the governor? What did the special services do? Who is to blame for this and how will they be responsible for it?
          1. Vestnik
            Vestnik 26 July 2020 12: 01 New
            -11
            Quote: Bearded
            The killer was in power for 15 years, in high positions. Here already questions to the governor's authorities arise: How did the killer become the governor? What did the special services do? Who is to blame for this and how will they be responsible for it?

            The deputy was from the Liberal Democratic Party .. All questions to Zhirinovsky, he covered him for so many years and probably had something .. If earlier they closed the screams would have been many times more .... Why now? And the amendments were adopted to the Constitution and carte blanche .. Here is the ghoul and finally tied up and what a howl is worth ..
            And how many more are there in power, hiding behind the deputy and other connections .. Look at what disadvantages went straight mom, don't worry ..))))
            WILL SIT bastard ..
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 26 July 2020 12: 13 New
              13
              All questions to Zhirinovsky
              No - but we have what, the special services no longer check the people of the sovereign? Why are they even needed then? The person was in high positions, had access to state secrets for 15 years, and suddenly you are a criminal! Okay - we can and so, but where then the resignation and landing of those who missed him on top? Starting with the president who signed the decree on his appointment as governor? Look - they got into the habit of excluding themselves ..
              1. Vestnik
                Vestnik 26 July 2020 12: 37 New
                -8
                Quote: paul3390
                No - but we have what, the special services no longer check the people of the sovereign?

                Well, they are checking, but the fifth column is very strong and supported by the West with a lot of money and the media ..
                Quote: paul3390
                The person was in high positions, had access to state secrets for 15 years, and suddenly you are a criminal! Okay - we can and so, but where then the resignation and landing of those who missed him on top?

                There were elections and there was no evidence, or rather only indirect ones ... now the witness spoke up and provided something important ...
                So it started! Rather, I wrote above the amendments were adopted to the Constitution, and there it is clearly spelled out who can be in power (without dual citizenship, without accounts and real estate abroad, etc.)
                And there are a lot of people like that in the government, so they raise things and dig ..
                Remember a senator from one of Dagestan was closed, there was also an angel, but it turned out to be a thief and a KILLER along with his father, they took the Federation Council right at the meeting .. Remember my words, now many governors and others will start to escape from fear .. They will be caught at airports, etc. etc.
                1. saigon
                  saigon 26 July 2020 14: 46 New
                  +1
                  That is, you Mr. Vestnik in all seriousness undertake to accuse the FSB of the fact that the fifth column and the corrupt media drove them skid?
                  For what purpose are you dishonoring our competent authorities, who gave you such a task and for whose money?
                  Why are you posting a deliberate lie about the prohibition of dual citizenship, that you do not know about the existence of a federal law on this topic before the amendments?
                  So be more precise in your comments, that on the site there are no clinical idiots, the level of another one, take into account the future and please do not slander the competent authorities, you do not need to dirty the whole site.
                  1. Vestnik
                    Vestnik 26 July 2020 14: 57 New
                    -5
                    Quote: saigon
                    That is, you Mr. Vestnik in all seriousness undertake to accuse the FSB of the fact that the fifth column and the corrupt media drove them skid?

                    Gentlemen in London .. And all your thieves hi
                    Quote: saigon
                    For what purpose are you dishonoring our competent authorities, who gave you such a task and for whose money?

                    laughing It's kind of like in one movie heh heh

                    laughing



                    Quote: saigon
                    So be more precise in your comments, that on the site there are no clinical idiots, the level of another one, take into account the future and please do not slander the competent authorities, you do not need to dirty the whole site.

                    Rest! people like you here slimy divorced .. mom do not cry hehe
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 26 July 2020 15: 26 New
                      +3
                      It's kind of like in one movie heh heh
                      You are in the top ten.
                      It looks like they went to the same synagogue laughing
                      Painfully "handwriting" is similar
                      1. Vestnik
                        Vestnik 26 July 2020 15: 42 New
                        -1
                        Quote: flicker
                        It's kind of like in one movie heh heh
                        You are in the top ten.
                        It looks like they went to the same synagogue laughing
                        Painfully "handwriting" is similar

                        This is how it all began .. And then the 90s .. angry
                        I myself am laughing at this and at the same time I will bind it with my teeth .. such and furgala will protect and ephraim, etc. ..
                2. paul3390
                  paul3390 26 July 2020 16: 48 New
                  +5
                  Well, they are checking, but the fifth column is very strong and supported by the West with a lot of money and the media ..
                  Are you saying that the FSB takes bribes from our enemies ??? sad

                  It’s good that the senators were closed, it’s bad that they didn’t close those who protected them, pushed them upstairs and, on duty, had to do everything so that they didn’t get to the top ..
            2. Machito
              Machito 27 July 2020 11: 03 New
              0
              Quote: Vestnik
              Quote: Bearded
              The killer was in power for 15 years, in high positions. Here already questions to the governor's authorities arise: How did the killer become the governor? What did the special services do? Who is to blame for this and how will they be responsible for it?

              The deputy was from the Liberal Democratic Party .. All questions to Zhirinovsky, he covered him for so many years and probably had something .. If earlier they closed the screams would have been many times more .... Why now? And the amendments were adopted to the Constitution and carte blanche .. Here is the ghoul and finally tied up and what a howl is worth ..
              And how many more are there in power, hiding behind the deputy and other connections .. Look at what disadvantages went straight mom, don't worry ..))))
              WILL SIT bastard ..

              The LDPR is one of the four ruling parties and the oldest party in parliament. She has been in power since 1991.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Bearded
            Wet Furgal or not. Who cares?

            I agree.
            Until this has affected you. Personally.
          3. alone
            alone 26 July 2020 14: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: Bearded
            Here already questions to the governor's authorities arise: How did the killer become the governor? What did the special services do? Who is to blame for this and how will they be responsible for it?

            Well, before the governorship, he sat for three more convocations in the State Duma as a deputy, and even before that he was a deputy in the regional Duma.
            1. sgapich
              sgapich 26 July 2020 16: 53 New
              -1
              Well, before the governorship, he sat for three more convocations in the State Duma as a deputy, and even before that he was a deputy in the regional Duma.

              And you will study, at least for your own development, the federal law "On the status of a member of the Federation Council and the status of a deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation" of 08.05.1994/3/XNUMX N XNUMX-FZ.
              Perhaps something will clear up for you.
        3. flicker
          flicker 26 July 2020 12: 37 New
          0
          I do not believe that there people just came out like "outraged" .. Nothing is done just like that

          This is yes. It looks like someone's PROJECT (with far-reaching goals) is burning with a blue flame.
          The wagon can pull the whole thread ... yes

          Therefore, they either need to rescue Furgal, or send him where they do not return from, and the latter is preferable.
          Hence the tantrum.
          1. Vestnik
            Vestnik 26 July 2020 13: 05 New
            -1
            Quote: flicker
            This is yes. It looks like someone's PROJECT (with far-reaching goals) is burning with a blue flame.
            The wagon can pull the whole thread ...

            Think in the right direction .. Zhirinovsky is especially nervous!
            Quote: flicker
            Therefore, they either need to rescue Furgal, or send him where they do not return from, and the latter is preferable.
            Hence the tantrum.

            A heart attack is quite possible and then it will start like "furgal sanctions", etc. A kind of Robingood and the defender of everyone from the bloody regime .. You need to protect it like "the apple of your eye" !!!!!
          2. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 26 July 2020 14: 08 New
            -2
            [quote = flicker] Therefore, they need to either rescue Furgal, or send him where they do not return from, and the latter is preferable.
            Hence the hysteria. [/ Qthe zone in Krasnokamensk is empty laughing
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 26 July 2020 14: 42 New
            0
            Quote: flicker
            can pull the whole thread ...

            If you have not already pulled it - a deal with the investigation under the pressure of irrefutable evidence and all that. yes
        4. Far East
          Far East 26 July 2020 14: 45 New
          -1
          you were told, come tell this to people! you sit at (keyboard) knocking, you probably knock on life!
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 26 July 2020 13: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this.

        But why?
        Yevgeny Zori's wife is going to come there, she will tell them everything herself.
        Kind and forgiving. At someone else's expense.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 July 2020 14: 13 New
          -5
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this.

          But why?
          Yevgeny Zori's wife is going to come there, she will tell them everything herself.
          Kind and forgiving. At someone else's expense.

          Honestly, I do not know who Mr. Zori is and generally do not understand what the problem is. He just poked Vital.
          PS By the way, your Furgal seems to be innocent until he was convicted.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 26 July 2020 14: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Honestly, I do not know who Mr. Zori is and generally do not understand what the problem is.

            This is one of those killed on Furgal's orders. In Canada, the whole family was hiding from the "people's governor"
            1. Vestnik
              Vestnik 26 July 2020 14: 22 New
              -1
              Quote: Spade
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Honestly, I do not know who Mr. Zori is and generally do not understand what the problem is.

              This is one of those killed on Furgal's orders. In Canada, the whole family was hiding from the "people's governor"

              That's exactly Lopatov! thank hi ... And then these hamsters protestors with some from a small country have already got it .. negative
              Everything is very serious there hi
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Honestly, I do not know who Mr. Zori is and generally do not understand what the problem is. He just poked Vital.
              PS By the way, your Furgal seems to be innocent until he was convicted.

              Well, yes, Aron, turned out and also raised his gang of minusators ..
              It is difficult with you if you are vindictive ..
          2. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 26 July 2020 23: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            PS By the way, your Furgal seems to be innocent until he was convicted.

            Exactly so, Aaron. Your Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, with three criminal cases opened, is also not guilty "until he was convicted." Let's wait for the results of the investigation. hi
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      4. Maz
        Maz 26 July 2020 15: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Vestnik
        Already sick of this van and other protestors ..

        Vitalia, go to Khabarovsk and tell them this. It's closer to you than to Syria. wink

        No, Aron let him go to Israel. The Israeli Rabbi said clearly to the whole country - "Let Russian children serve in the Israeli army! Our children have nothing to do there!" - And he will cut down the money! AND ? Aronchik? And then a thousand rubles a day to each protester is a humiliating handout, etozh pennies, And we are not beggars, thank God? AND ? Aaron? Smallly appreciate.
      5. yustas
        yustas 26 July 2020 16: 35 New
        0
        Well, you, the dear "aron" Siberia closer? Or maybe you should leave the site and not provoke society? Or, yours, is the state very involved in this and has its own gisheft? We, you, do not touch you, and you, please, don’t touch the history of the state in which you do not live ... sort out your borders while they are
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 26 July 2020 11: 10 New
    +8
    Any official or security officer standing in front of the crowd will try to knock down the ardor with promises. In this case, they will not necessarily be performed.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 26 July 2020 11: 29 New
      +7
      Well, in general, not so much promised them. He spoke logically, restrained in accordance with the position. In my opinion, he is quite well done, but most of the Khabarovsk residents run into him not on business, Tk. problems that they are talking about clearly not Degtyarev created them (bad medicine, expensive fuel). Why wasn't Furgal asked for that? Where have they all been in such a united impulse before?
      1. flicker
        flicker 26 July 2020 12: 44 New
        +2
        Why wasn't Furgal required?
        Well, they would explain Timofeev's "brothers". angry
        In general, all the threads of these rallies are in the hands of Mikhail Timofeev (aka "Timokha").

        As soon as Timokha is packed, everything will quickly decline.
      2. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 26 July 2020 14: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: DenZ
        Well, in general, not so much promised them. He spoke logically, restrained in accordance with the position. In my opinion, he is quite well done, but most of the Khabarovsk residents run into him not on business, Tk. problems that they are talking about clearly not Degtyarev created them (bad medicine, expensive fuel). Why wasn't Furgal asked for that? Where have they all been in such a united impulse before?

        I also ask myself this question.
  • Quasipatriot
    Quasipatriot 26 July 2020 11: 24 New
    +1
    This is the Degtyarev who said that "if I have to take a steam bath with my big uncles, I will go for it too"?
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 26 July 2020 11: 25 New
    +3
    Proletarian van or something? Why is he so drowned for him? The same bandit in the 90s, and a capitalist and a thief today.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 July 2020 11: 38 New
      12
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Why is he so drowned for him?

      because he is his own, local, whom the people themselves chose - and not who came to make a career, the governor-general from the metropolis.
      1. saigon
        saigon 26 July 2020 15: 09 New
        +1
        The answer to this question goes beyond the simple framework of friend or foe.
        There are several aspects here.
        The one you named came from the metropolis! The main word is METROPOLY. The attitude to the capital as to the metropolis, the attitude of the colony, the thin thread of the Transib and the auto road (far from the autobahn) and the air communication inaccessible to many, the attitude of local residents is terribly dangerous for the state.
        The game of local princelings and boyars in quiet separatism (and this is always there, without relative to the country and time period)
        In any empire, and whatever one may say, Russia was and will be an empire, such as the transport theorem.
        And this theorem says that the connection between the metropolis and a separate region (transport and trade links) should be better and more important than the connection between regions, and most importantly, beneficial to the region. And this is superimposed on the separatism of local leaders.
        Well, and then your own - alien.
        And the reaction to the arrest is completely incomprehensible, the arrest is the reason for the reasons deeper.
        The situation is filthy.
    2. Vestnik
      Vestnik 26 July 2020 12: 07 New
      -14
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Proletarian van or something? Why is he so drowned for him? The same bandit in the 90s, and a capitalist and a thief today.

      A lot of money and administrative resources have been invested in the protests .. There are even calls for the secession of the territory by some screamers ..
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      because he is his own, local, whom the people themselves chose - and not who came to make a career, the governor-general from the metropolis.

      Yes, he lived there for a long time in Moscow, he was a deputy))) What is he like?
      He made good money in Khabarovsk, perhaps a secretive billionaire (you can see plump accounts abroad) And according to the new Constitution, this is prohibited !!!!!
    3. yustas
      yustas 26 July 2020 16: 39 New
      -1
      Totally agree with you. There was a time to throw stones, now they began to collect them and many do not like it. Because someone can lose both inviolability and place ...
  • Poetry
    Poetry 26 July 2020 11: 26 New
    -3
    Furgal "screwed up" the competitors, and now they are trying to make Jesus out of him. They would not have taken him "under white ruchenki" if there were no reinforced concrete evidence and witnesses.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 26 July 2020 11: 30 New
      +9
      no witnesses, no evidence, that's why the "trial" is closed
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 26 July 2020 11: 37 New
        -9
        His sidekick and accomplice handed him over with giblets, Mistryukov, after my last name. Most likely, he bargained for some preferences.
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 26 July 2020 12: 00 New
          13
          there it is very doubtful, Mistryukov is a cancer patient, blind, and was convicted earlier as part of the squeezing out of Amurstal shares in favor of the Rottenbergs. Deprive such a person with painkillers and he will sign anything. For 15 years (!!!!), everyone didn’t care, Furgal was sitting in the State Duma (!), Playing with a glass, no one cared, but how Amurstal Rotetenberg needed so much killing, "..coincidence? I don’t think (s)"
          1. Poetry
            Poetry 26 July 2020 12: 06 New
            -10
            Well, yes, the angel's wings were twisted behind her back,
            "and threw it into a black funnel in a big way."
            Do you also think that Furgal is a white fluffy?
          2. alone
            alone 26 July 2020 14: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Igoresha
            Mistryukov is a cancer patient, blind, and was convicted earlier as part of the squeeze of Amurstal shares in favor of the Rottenbergs.

            So why is Rotenberg free? It seems that he is also entitled to a term for this. ...
            1. bk0010
              bk0010 26 July 2020 17: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              So why is Rotenberg free?
              Dating is a must have! Then it will not be you who will sit, but those whom you want to plant.
      2. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru 26 July 2020 12: 07 New
        -4
        from Ukraine, then you know better, well lol
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 26 July 2020 12: 13 New
          -3
          Still, my bright mind is not drugged by the propaganda of the pro-Kremlin TV channels, where the fire in the French cathedral is on all sides of the protests in Khabarovsk ... well, you yourself know
          1. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 26 July 2020 12: 14 New
            -1
            so you watch them more than Russians
            all you wait for the performances of your deity lol
            1. Igoresha
              Igoresha 26 July 2020 12: 18 New
              -6
              OTR channel if I turn on the TV then I watch. I really like the weather forecast there - pictures from Russian provincial cities and pleasant music. https://youtu.be/txPu8lmbFsU
              And RTR-ORT-NTV is for citizens not burdened with intellect.
              1. kot28.ru
                kot28.ru 26 July 2020 12: 23 New
                -1
                Crimea-Russia. Putin-President of Russia. Wipe out snot and turn in your sleep laughing burdened with thoughts of Russia Ukrainian lol
      3. flicker
        flicker 26 July 2020 13: 23 New
        +3
        no witnesses, no evidence, that's why the "trial" is closed
        He is a WITNESS himself.
        Moreover, he can put all the bureaucrats in Khabarovsk.
        Yes, and Timokha can provide life.
        ---
        And as a witness, neither criminals nor officials need him in Khabarovsk ... bully
        Only the TFR needs him alive.
        ---
        And yes, he indirectly admitted his guilt - this is at the expense of witnesses and evidence.
    2. businessv
      businessv 26 July 2020 12: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      He would not have been taken "under the white ruchenki" if there were no reinforced concrete evidence and witnesses.
      Come on! Is it true ?! Are they arrested now with only such evidence? And Platoshkin, Bykov are also criminals with evidence? I didn't know, thanks for enlightening!
      1. yustas
        yustas 26 July 2020 16: 42 New
        -4
        Aren't bulls a bandit? Well 4a tell me more?
        1. businessv
          businessv 27 July 2020 19: 41 New
          0
          Quote: yustas
          Well 4a tell me more?

          Forgot how to read? Find and read!
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 26 July 2020 12: 17 New
      +6
      In fact, there hasn't been a trial yet, so about screwing up your eyes - it's your fantasies for now. And what about you - what country do you live in? Didn't we have really custom landings? Especially if you dig in the past - you need to put ALL the sovereign's people, starting from the very beginning .. Among the characters who got out in the 90s, there can be no honest in principle ..
  • flicker
    flicker 26 July 2020 11: 29 New
    -12
    Furgal himself, albeit indirectly, admitted his guilt.
    In addition, he very subtly made it clear that he would "catch" all his accomplices.
    bully
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 26 July 2020 12: 13 New
      -2
      That is why the accomplices and Bulgacs Khabarovsk. winked Only it seems that in vain. Now, it’s as if the funeral will be pressed into place without any mitigating circumstances. hi
      1. Vestnik
        Vestnik 26 July 2020 12: 20 New
        -3
        Quote: Captive
        That is why the accomplices and Bulgacs Khabarovsk. winked Only it seems that in vain. Now, it’s as if the funeral will be pressed into place without any mitigating circumstances. hi

        And they will do the right thing, there are already appeals that have gone almost to secede, some rabid ones gathered .. (They remembered the 90s ..)))) Well, well.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 26 July 2020 12: 28 New
          +3
          Well, someone will definitely separate ... from the crowd. So for a few years that the shores would not be lost. They want to be "Pits Furgal" ah, for God's sake. Want a different president, no question (wait for the election). And for this nonsense about secession, this is extremism. For such a hat, that the "divider" would sink into half of the board. These are already obvious enemy agents, although as an option, clinical ones. hi
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 26 July 2020 14: 45 New
            -2
            Quote: Captive
            obvious enemy agents, although as an option, clinical.

            Exactly. yes As well as the local camarilla, which is trying to present these festivities as "popular unrest" on cheap pathos.
  • Operator
    Operator 26 July 2020 11: 31 New
    -12
    In the Khabarovsk Territory, it is necessary to identify and purge the supporters of the criminal Furgal.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 26 July 2020 12: 02 New
      +5
      arrest all the mothers and their children for whom Furgal provided free breakfasts (two years earlier than Sobyaninov's) and send them to Siberia
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 05 New
      +2
      Come to Khabarovsk and come out with this slogan !!! Perhaps you will be found in two years in the Krasnaya Rechka area
      1. Operator
        Operator 26 July 2020 12: 18 New
        -8
        You will be found in Kolyma among criminals.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 19 New
          +5
          Are you in charge of the bazaar? !!!
          1. Operator
            Operator 26 July 2020 12: 22 New
            -3
            The TFR, the Interior Ministry and I are responsible for your public death threat.
            1. Nehist
              Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 24 New
              +1
              Ndya .... Homeland demands Heroes and something gives birth to fools !!! You can also file a lawsuit for insult !!! You are either young !!! Either you haven't tasted life
              1. Operator
                Operator 26 July 2020 12: 26 New
                -6
                You wanted to say - to the Investigative Committee for the death threat.
                1. Nehist
                  Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 30 New
                  +3
                  Yes, at least apply to the ECHR !!! You will be ridiculed! And Learn the dialectics of the Russian language !!!! Reread Dostoevsky at your leisure, it will do you good
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 26 July 2020 16: 36 New
                -5
                "Come to Khabarovsk and come out with this slogan! Perhaps you will be found in two years in the area of ​​Krasnaya Rechka."
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 26 July 2020 12: 34 New
            -3
            Quote: Nehist
            Come to Khabarovsk and come out with this slogan !!! Perhaps you will be found in two years in the Krasnaya Rechka area

            And you? Such a passage, dear man, can be assessed as a threat. You here from the forum do not do "raspberries".
            1. Nehist
              Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 40 New
              0
              Learn the dialectics of the Russian language! Read Pushkin, Dostoevsky and you will be happy so as not to amuse the TFR
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              2. Prisoner
                Prisoner 27 July 2020 13: 07 New
                +1
                Ensign, my answer to your canoe has been deleted. Himself embarrassed or offended for you? laughing The answer can be deleted, but some people are crazy to insert it already figurines. laughing laughing laughing ps: As for the honor of that one, you mischief soldier
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 26 July 2020 12: 32 New
        +2
        What is a criminalized population, what slogan can they kill? This does not characterize him in the best way.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 36 New
          +3
          No, this is about the fact that this personage claims that it is necessary to clean up the criminal Furgal, whose guilt has not yet been proven !!! I just invited him to come and try to do it !!! And yes, the population is criminalized! Descendants of exiles from the time of the Empire hi Therefore, you have to answer for your words! For all the revelry of the dashing 90s, we had less bloodshed than in the European part of Russia
    3. businessv
      businessv 26 July 2020 12: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Operator
      In the Khabarovsk Territory, it is necessary to identify and purge the supporters of the criminal Furgal.
      Why reveal them ?! I went to the square and here they are! Shoot everyone? In Donbass this is how the word "cleansing" is understood.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 26 July 2020 12: 38 New
        -6
        sad Even so? Far away you were carried from Nenka to Khabarovsk.
        1. businessv
          businessv 27 July 2020 19: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Captive
          Far away you were carried from Nenka to Khabarovsk.

          And you, as I see, are still in captivity! Well, at least the Internet was not deprived. In my post, I meant the inhabitants of the LPNR, if you know what it is.
    4. flicker
      flicker 26 July 2020 13: 02 New
      -2
      it is necessary to identify and purge the supporters of the criminal Furgal.
      It is enough to pack only one - Mikhail Timofeev (Timokh), the creator of the Khabarovsk organized criminal group.
      He and his people drive, agitate and organize the people, put pressure on the heads of enterprises and organizations so that, under the threat of dismissal, they drive everyone to the rally, plus Khabarovsk TV all were fed by Furgal, now Timokha is actively pressing them.
      I think it's already in development, all his contacts are being revealed.
      1. Operator
        Operator 26 July 2020 14: 00 New
        -4
        In the Khabarovsk Territory, the period of the 90s ends with a rampant crime at all levels. Not only Furgal is found there, but also thousands of smaller criminal "businessmen" who obviously need to get their brains right.

        Until his arrest, Furgal supported the Liberal Democratic Party from his common fund, starting with Zhirinovsky and ending with retired party members, paying 60 thousand rubles in addition to their pension. Those regularly voted for the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia in the elections of governors, legislative assemblies and the State Duma. From 5 to 10 thousand Khabarovsk demonstrators are now being warmed up for the remains of the common fund.

        Plus, many local people from the outskirts, offended by the fact that their historical nenka is in all the holes, by tradition are ready to sell even to the Chinese for a handful of pennies.
  • iouris
    iouris 26 July 2020 11: 47 New
    -2
    This is called throwing a kerosene into a smoldering fire. And what does Birobidzhaner Stern write about this?
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 26 July 2020 11: 59 New
    +4
    Became interested in the cost of fuel in Khabarovsk?
    Refuel on Shell myself. The cost of the 95th, on 21.07., 57,19 rubles.
    Location: St. Petersburg, Commandant pr. 41
  • businessv
    businessv 26 July 2020 12: 06 New
    +1
    Degtyarev decided to stop and get out of the car to talk to people.
    The first deserving of respect and approval, as for me. On the first day, this should have been done - to communicate at least with local activists, and not cut off the heads of subordinates.
    1. Most kind
      Most kind 26 July 2020 13: 05 New
      0
      He decided because on a narrow road there was a car that did not belong to him, and he could not remove it, hence his first question, who is the senior? And we have no elders, so they talked, it's good at least they didn't pick a tabuch in the forest
    2. Gloomy skeptic
      Gloomy skeptic 26 July 2020 15: 11 New
      -2
      Such an action is called cheap "populism" and has nothing to do with the solution of real problems of the region, AT ALL has nothing.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 26 July 2020 12: 10 New
    -2
    The organizers of "spontaneous" rallies not so much drown for Furgal, how much they jerk for their seats. The funeral will speak and ... "along the tundra by rail ..." and accomplices and patrons. What is it like from restaurants, saunas, resorts, cozy mansions and "... along the tundra, by rail ..."? I probably don't want to. wink
  • Hog
    Hog 26 July 2020 12: 36 New
    -1
    In my opinion, he replays a little, but in principle, he is a good actor)))
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 26 July 2020 12: 40 New
    +1
    For the Liberal Democratic Party, this is really a shock, because Furgal was considered one of the possible successors of Zhirinovsky. As, by the way, and Degtyarev.
  • flicker
    flicker 26 July 2020 12: 49 New
    -1
    Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry announced the successful completion of the Zircon hypersonic missile test. bully drinks
  • vavilon
    vavilon 26 July 2020 12: 56 New
    +8
    not only a shoplifter who will be beaten to death or imprisoned for a piece of sausage, but every official, regardless of his position, must answer for his actions
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 July 2020 12: 57 New
    +6
    Mdyaya .... the gentlemen fight the good, and the "lads" on the forums, each other, tear the foreheads of each other ... laughing
  • Most kind
    Most kind 26 July 2020 13: 02 New
    +1
    Yeah, only he was stopped for communication by blocking the road, how do you like it, where did they slow down the governors?
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 26 July 2020 13: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Do you really think that the country's population is crazy about zeroing? Do you live in Russia? If yes .. leave the house?

    Maybe they don’t bastard (all the polls), but it’s for sure that they don’t see who can change him, and the main thing is to ensure a stable (relatively) life in the country without re-evolutionary (read civil slaughter) cataclysms.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 13: 28 New
    +9
    He drew the protesters' attention that now the Khabarovsk Territory was left without a leader.

    It is disgusting to listen to the nonsense of a person who believes that he can correct the situation without knowing the characteristics of the region and its problems. So Putin signed the law on pension reform, not assuming that he would live on an average country pension, and at the age of 65 he would go on free bread, and would not smoke the ceilings of the Kremlin.
    When there, in the Khabarovsk Territory, will they be interested in the opinion of citizens (voters)? Or is this kind of democracy (the appointment of dark horses from the HSE alumni) awaiting other regions now?
    What did this Degtyarev do to make him the economic leader of the region?
    Even according to the first words (interviews), it becomes clear what level of emptiness in the head of this LDPR-reliable figure and how high the spirit of servility is in him.
    Tell me, can a person in his right mind shoulder the burden of worries, not imagining ways to resolve them? 64 debt and 000 grants for recovery ... stop fool Here you have to either be a round academician, or go to a position, assuming this is a short-lived burden. The main thing is not to upset the leader ...
    And in the Khabarovsk Territory there was no person capable of acting as governor temporarily? There was no one who, having fallen into the legs of people (like Tsivilev), would sit in a chair? Or someone like Uss, to whom personal ambitions obscured the soundness of judgment so that he embarked on a polemic with a woman: “What do you want to tell me? Right to rock? "

    These would-be leaders make up more than half of the governor's corps. Don't believe me? For 20 years there has been a breakthrough in the economy, and 99% of all regions are subsidized.
    1. alone
      alone 26 July 2020 14: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      For 20 years there has been a breakthrough in the economy, and 99% of all regions are subsidized.

      Yes, you are right. 99% .. Why would that be? Or maybe it's just the illusion of an economic breakthrough? Or maybe the fact that the locals are royally busy with their own welfare?
      This is why I asked these questions. Logically, if there is an economic breakthrough, it should show itself in all regions. The economic breakthrough and 99% subsidized regions do not fit together. There are two options: either there is no breakthrough in the economy, or 99% overstated.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 July 2020 16: 51 New
        -4
        Budget revenues and expenditures - you probably have the same overestimated figures and what is it for 99% of subsidized regions - 11 regions were donors last year, Dagestan and the Republic of Sakha Yakutia remain the most subsidized.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 26 July 2020 13: 54 New
    +7
    Legislative activity of Degtyarev before his appointment to this position:
    Degtyarev wanted to force the Russians to exchange all dollars for rubles.
    Initiated a law banning homosexuals from donating.
    "Khabarovsk" suggested replacing the national anthem with "God Save the Tsar", since the current anthem did not seem patriotic enough to him.
    He wanted to introduce an official Day of Sobriety and prohibit foreign business from using the vodka brand.
    His other initiative was also good - to create a GOST for Ded Moroz and Snegurochka in order to preserve the "correct" image of the characters. Or even cleaner, organizing paid weekends for women during critical days.
    And, finally, one cannot fail to mention how the head of the State Duma Committee on Physical Culture, Sports, Tourism and Youth Affairs, “got into a puddle” when he congratulated the Russian national ice hockey team on their victory in the youth world ice hockey championship, which lost it to the Canadians at the beginning of the year, confusing the game with the victorious final of 2011, which was simultaneously broadcast by Match TV in the recording. Degtyarev simply turned on the wrong channel, the live broadcast was broadcast on Channel One. And the governor-appointee could not distinguish the two teams, because, as he admitted, he watched the final without sound.
    1. your1970
      your1970 26 July 2020 14: 48 New
      0
      Pffff ...
      Furgal beat himself in the chest - that he will not take loans .... And what ???
      I took 6 billion in a year ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 July 2020 16: 54 New
        -2
        It is interesting how many billions of rubles the enterprises for the acceptance of scrap metal issued for Furgal's wife - the scrap were fused to China.
  • Sasha Minakov
    Sasha Minakov 26 July 2020 14: 03 New
    -6
    How many defenders of this rooster killer Furgala (persons with bright surnames, well, everything is as always) on the site :-). Apparently the end of Russia if so many monsters inhabit it.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 26 July 2020 15: 05 New
    -4
    And as I was cut by his (Furgala's) arrest, no one will hand over to you.

    Who won't pass? You yourself will transmit !!!
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 July 2020 15: 10 New
    -3
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    From that and bombs you, from the presence of any opposition

    It’s the other way around “you have bombs” - you are indignant here, everyone is so “correct” ... And we are simple people, used to getting our daily bread ourselves. Only one thing surprises me. How so: I am a pensioner, should I have free time? But this time is not enough for me to sit for hours at a computer every day. But your "oppositionists", I see, in the heat of the struggle against the hateful government, do not leave the "claudia" at all. Not a single sane person will sit here just like that! So maybe you are interested here? I would not be surprised if it is material. - Bash on bash, as they say. hi

    If it does not bother you, tell us, pliz, how do you live on a pension of 10 thousand rubles? hi
    By the way, tell me at the same time, how do you manage to save money for the Internet with such "pennies"? repeat
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 26 July 2020 19: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      If it does not bother you, tell us, pliz, how do you live on a pension of 10 thousand rubles?

      And where did you get the idea that I have a pension of 10 thousand? I didn't say that! My pension is now 17,5 thousand, plus payment for disability 2 thousand, a total of 19,5 thousand rubles. But that was after I finished working. And before that there were 14,5 thousand, along with payments. At the end of my work, they recalculated my pension to the one I am currently receiving. Plus, my wife receives a pension of about 15 thousand. So, for the Internet with cable TV, I still find 800 rubles. I have my own garden for "labor relaxation" laughing - we plant all sorts of things there and supply children and grandchildren.
      1. alone
        alone 26 July 2020 22: 10 New
        -1
        Quote: SRC P-15
        My pension is now 17,5 thousand, plus payment for disability 2 thousand, a total of 19,5 thousand rubles.

        Yes you are the nicest middle class laughing
  • Shahno
    Shahno 26 July 2020 16: 08 New
    -3
    Quote: Svarog
    I don’t understand why communicate with Degtyarev .. what can he say useful, except for promises that are endlessly poured and not fulfilled .. About the rise in gasoline prices, this is generally beyond the bounds, there is no competition .. Gasoline is getting more expensive everywhere and always .. and This comes from the irrepressible thirst for profit of a narrow group of people, which makes the country's population poorer from year to year ..

    Your nightingale has sent .. jambs.
    Ps. It's just funny. Did he really steal that it didn't reach the center. And to hang the murders, this is generally a symbolic number ...
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy 26 July 2020 18: 47 New
    0
    He speaks like a psychologist I also speak with my wife in such a calmly instructive tone of voice (like a robot) when we swear and this especially pisses her off)))
  • Stas1973
    Stas1973 26 July 2020 20: 17 New
    -1
    Dibil. No other words
  • venaly
    venaly 27 July 2020 08: 33 New
    +1
    Deceived people in Khabarovsk. Those who do not want to investigate the cases of not only the van, but also other officials are deceiving. The protesters are like a battering ram. Maybe someday they will understand that they were framed.
  • Clueless
    Clueless 27 July 2020 08: 54 New
    -1
    Again the fool is shown :) Also fill in the video for yesterday, where he went out to the protesters in the square .. when they had already dispersed :))
    Of course, surrounded by "mummers" who almost fell at his feet, and asked questions. But to his regret, some of the people there were protesters (who did not go home) and journalists.
    I haven't heard such a vocabulary for a long time, gopniks are resting :)
    "I repeat for the gifted" is the answer to a question from the crowd.
    "Serega will come and talk to him."
    "Yes, the liberals are to blame for everything."

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    As I understand it, the material above is custom-made on Topvar :)
  • Alexander F.
    Alexander F. 27 July 2020 20: 07 New
    +1
    Let us overthrow the hated ruler and live ...
    So they thought in Libya. Well, they healed ...