When crossing the Kerch Strait, BRDM-2 sank

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When crossing the Kerch Strait, BRDM-2 sank

As part of the patriotic action taking place today, dedicated to the Kerch-Eltigen landing of 1943, one of the three armored cars sank while crossing the Kerch Strait, said the organizer representative Sergei Chernakov.

According to him, during the crossing of the gulf, one of the three BRDM-2, which participated in the action, sank. The crew of the armored car in the amount of five people was evacuated, there were no casualties or injured. The cause of the incident was a strong side wind and the exit of the car to a section with a strong current due to the difference in depth. The BRDM was located five kilometers from the coast. Two other armored cars safely reached the Taman coast.



BRDM-2 sank, there were no casualties, the crew was evacuated to the boat. Water began to flow into the BRDM-2, the standard vehicle rescue systems worked and pumped out water. However, she did it too quickly. Thanks to the prompt actions of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, it was possible to quickly evacuate the entire crew of five people, there was no threat to people's lives, because there was a boat nearby

- said in a statement.


After the crew was evacuated, an attempt was made to save the car, but the water flow could not be stopped. Currently, the issue of lifting equipment from the bottom and delivering it to the shore is being resolved.


The action "Road of Courage. Kerch Landing", dedicated to the Kerch-Eltigen landing of 1943, has been held in Crimea since 2017, as part of it, armored vehicles overcome the 15-kilometer distance between Taman and Crimea through the Kerch Strait.
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    1. -30
      25 July 2020 15: 04
      There is nothing else to do.
      1. +22
        25 July 2020 15: 15
        Not worth it, I guess. Minus from the bottom of my heart. soldier
        1. +3
          25 July 2020 15: 23
          I will subscribe to your opinion!
          1. +2
            25 July 2020 15: 35
            the puppies have a different opinion, they have a peremog, so you have been eliminated on the sly, from the caches
            1. -4
              25 July 2020 15: 38
              We do not pay attention to the newest "partners"!)
            2. +12
              25 July 2020 15: 49
              Yes to hell with them, let them choke, tihushniki with a trident goose. laughing
              1. Cat
                +5
                25 July 2020 19: 39
                let them choke, tihushniki with a trident guznom

                They have already been choking on a tanker near Odessa for half a year.
            3. -5
              25 July 2020 16: 07
              No, it was our local Vlasovites who tried!
              1. +86
                25 July 2020 18: 41
                Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                No, it was our local Vlasovites who tried!

                ========
                I personally - not a gram of "Vlasov" and not "Banderlog"! And I consider military-patriotic education a thing fit и useful! But risking the lives of young guys, arranging a 2-hour "swim" of 15 kilometers along the SEA Strait for a very old and absolutely not fit to such "cruises" nt [ybrt - I think unreasonable frivolity! It is good that it cost only the loss of the car and everything is ALIVE! I hope this will serve as a good lesson for the organizers of the action.
                For such a promotion, you could find something MORE SUITABLE!
                And the "glove compartment" - it is the "glove compartment" - an armored vehicle capable of overcome water obstacles, and not swim on the "seas-oceans" like a dreadnought! Even during the landing of an amphibious assault - this technique leaves the ramp a maximum of a kilometer from the coast, and more often even closer!

                1. +21
                  25 July 2020 19: 08
                  Quote: venik
                  It is good that it cost only the loss of the car and everything is ALIVE! I hope this will serve as a good lesson for the organizers of the action.

                  Join drinks
                2. -24
                  25 July 2020 20: 38
                  With this approach, in general, everything should be closed, banned and not allowed, parachuting should be completely banned, because this is extremely dangerous, and swimming in open water should be declared a criminal offense, military exercises with live firing there, how many emergency situations from them !!!
                  1. +17
                    25 July 2020 22: 14
                    Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                    With this approach, in general, everything should be closed, banned and not allowed, parachuting should be completely banned, because this is extremely dangerous, and swimming in open water should be declared a criminal offense, military exercises with live firing there, how many emergency situations from them !!!

                    Sure, not a problem. Would you like to go kayaking on the route Leningrad - New York?
                    1. -10
                      26 July 2020 03: 59
                      "No question. Would you like to go kayaking along the Leningrad-New York route?"

                      No, in Altai there are more interesting routes, and nature is more beautiful wink
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                  3. +5
                    26 July 2020 10: 35
                    Quote: sg7s
                    Padriott !! Hear the courts! Training in the army (the army, and not what you imagine, Maskovsky's pale and feeble undergrowth) is a priori a necessary thing and the losses with it are the quintessence of the closeness of actions to combat (not "couch") Yes, dm-ka is not a novelty, but we have and will fight! How are you? On the armor or on the couch? I can sell old glasses (yes, I will give you a eunuch)

                    Since you position yourself as a general (see above), as a captain of the Soviet army, I will remind you that any exercises (especially landing and overcoming water obstacles) are carried out in accordance with the data of the meteorological service and in the order established by the combat manual. To let the glove compartment into the "around the world" is a direct violation of the charter.
                    1. -1
                      27 July 2020 01: 19
                      Perhaps, and even - for sure, but the guys tried, what's wrong? Or better, when German soldiers, instead of machine guns, adapt the cuttings, Comrade. captain? With SW, Jr. sergeant
                4. +1
                  26 July 2020 10: 31
                  ... it never happened and here again ...
                5. _M_
                  +1
                  27 July 2020 01: 28
                  Single adequate opinion
                6. -1
                  27 July 2020 13: 30
                  Krasava! He regretted it, figured it out .... When he was young he was a freak himself, he ran after the girls, did his best before them? Not ? Kant you are our Tambov spill .... Everything is ok, train, try ... AK for how much can you figure it out? An hour and a half (with Google) ???
                  The case - they sent the same warrant to the point to me (sergeant, checkpoint, pandsher), put the signaling - crawled and grunt, well, how are you higher .... shitcrats, zadolbali, there is no one to defend the Motherland.
            4. -5
              25 July 2020 17: 55
              Quote: kot28.ru
              the puppies have a different opinion, they have a peremog, so you have been eliminated on the sly, from the caches

              Not a little got out
        2. -7
          26 July 2020 03: 39
          Only kaz ... ly put cons. And he really has nothing to do - so I work, when do I do this garbage? Please pay attention - I am working, I do not have enough time not only for garbage, I can barely keep my house in order. There are two options, either the very rich, or they can get it on their house (apartment).
      2. +28
        25 July 2020 15: 17
        As part of the patriotic action taking place today, dedicated to the Kerch-Eltigen landing of 1943, one of three armored cars sank while crossing the Kerch Strait, said the representative of the organizers Sergey Chernakov.

        That is, one must understand that the BRDM was not an army or naval vehicle, but one of those that are in private hands, or on the balance sheet of public organizations?
        1. +23
          25 July 2020 15: 27
          As I understood, all cars are private. Without weapons.
          The Navy, as far as I know, does not have a BRDM at all and never had.
          1. +3
            25 July 2020 15: 30
            Quote: El Dorado
            The Navy, as far as I know, does not have a BRDM at all and never had.

            Doesn't the Black Sea Fleet Marine Corps (or did not) have BRDM in service?
            1. +16
              25 July 2020 15: 35
              Now I poyandeksil, yes, they were with the marines of the KChF, I did not know. Not in service now.
            2. +20
              25 July 2020 15: 36
              And yes, the drowned "Bardak" belonged to the Military-Technical Society.
              1. +12
                25 July 2020 15: 45
                Quote: El Dorado
                And yes, the drowned "Bardak" belonged to the Military-Technical Society.

                This is their action, and not the first

                By the way, the newest cars were chosen from the availability.
                1. +10
                  25 July 2020 15: 54
                  I heard about this society and their actions. Well done! good
                  1. +18
                    25 July 2020 15: 57
                    Of course well done.
                    They are doing the right thing.
                    Well, the fact that events of this type suit you, in garages in your own juice is also not worth boiling.

                    Although the car, of course, is a pity, it will have to be restored.
                    1. +5
                      25 July 2020 16: 01
                      It still needs to be raised. It looks like it sank in the deepest part of the strait.
                    2. +16
                      25 July 2020 18: 07
                      Why are you in general BRDM not for sea travel
                    3. 0
                      27 July 2020 01: 52
                      Don't give a damn about the car ... You need to train it, they will eat it - they will not choke, nowadays the young are very weak ... Our strength is in the readiness to stand up (if you understand what)
                2. -2
                  25 July 2020 16: 02
                  Quote: Spade
                  By the way, the newest cars were chosen from the availability.

                  But nevertheless, it turned out how it happened Yes
                  Either the driver made a mistake and chose the wrong course and tactics to overcome the water obstacle (after all, the other participants in the crossing reached the shore safely), or the hardware part really let down.
                  And this only suggests that newer is not always a better choice than a well-groomed "old" ...
                  1. +1
                    25 July 2020 16: 09
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    And this only suggests that newer is not always a better choice than a well-groomed "old" ...

                    If they were on the BRDM-1, which they also have, the likelihood of such an incident would be greater.
                    That's what it is about.
                    1. -5
                      25 July 2020 16: 13
                      Quote: Spade

                      If they were on the BRDM-1, the likelihood of such an incident would be greater.
                      That's what it is about.

                      And there was no talk about BRDM-1 in the article. And if it wasn't, then it wasn't.

                      Therefore, it is not even worth starting to talk about this. No.
                      1. -6
                        25 July 2020 16: 13
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        And there was no talk about the BRDM-1 in the article.

                        Well, yes.
                        Because they were not involved in the event.
                        1. +1
                          25 July 2020 16: 15
                          Quote: Spade
                          Well, yes.
                          Because they were not involved in the event.

                          So why around that "didn't attract", to breed verbiage?
                        2. -8
                          25 July 2020 16: 18
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          So why around something that "did not attract", to breed verbiage?

                          For the gifted, the "Military Technical Society" has two types of floating vehicles, BRDM-1 and BRDM-2
                          For the action, they chose newer and safer BRDM-2.

                          Now you understand?
                        3. -3
                          25 July 2020 16: 21
                          Quote: Spade
                          For the gifted, the "Military Technical Society" has two types of floating vehicles, BRDM-1 and BRDM-2
                          For the action, they chose newer and safer BRDM-2.

                          Now you understand?

                          Clear Yes what a laurel wreathBest commentator", you are pressing on your head more than the crown, and you, in your attempts to maintain (?) this" status ", post not know that ....
                        4. -3
                          25 July 2020 16: 23
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          It is clear yes, that the "laurel wreath" of the "Best commentator" presses on your head more than the crown, and you, in your attempts to keep (?) This "status", post no news that ....

                          That is, they did not understand again.
                          Well, what are you going to do here ...
                        5. +3
                          25 July 2020 16: 26
                          Quote: Spade
                          That is, they did not understand again.
                          Well, what are you going to do here ...

                          What to do, what to do request ...
                          Everything is elementary to the limit - don't post dregs, that on your "IMHO", "could be"(BRDM-1), but did not participate in the action ...
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                        7. +1
                          25 July 2020 16: 53
                          Quote: Spade
                          Do you have enough brains to understand whether it is dregs or not?

                          Do not worry, brains, in order to determine the line between dialogue, rudeness and insult, will be enough Yes
                          Therefore, it is better to stop in your reckless attempt, bordering on an attempt to offend the interlocutor, while I am still ready to restrain myself.

                          Earlier, I suggested that you moderate your verbal flow, not substantiated by materials related to the article:
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          And there was no talk about the BRDM-1 in the article. And if it wasn't, then it wasn't.

                          Therefore, it is not even worth starting to talk about this.


                          You cannot be appeased No. , pouring a stream like from a fountain. Water, water, water ...
                        8. -7
                          25 July 2020 16: 45
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          Everything is elementary to the limit - don't post dregs

                          Do you consider yourself in the right to decide whether others post "dregs" or not?

                          Maybe it’s your headdress too much to reap? Like a crown.
                        9. +3
                          25 July 2020 17: 02
                          Quote: Spade
                          Do you consider yourself in the right to decide whether others post "dregs" or not?

                          Yes, it is quite Yes
                          As well as the quality of the film, product, device.

                          Furthermore !,surprise you, on their own opinion not limited by the VO Rules, have the right (and do so Yes ) all the people around you ...
                        10. +12
                          25 July 2020 18: 38
                          And nothing that "chaos" are generally intended for crossing rivers, and not for long sea trips?
                        11. 0
                          25 July 2020 19: 04
                          Quote: Spade
                          Quote: Insurgent
                          So why around something that "did not attract", to breed verbiage?

                          For the gifted, the "Military Technical Society" has two types of floating vehicles, BRDM-1 and BRDM-2
                          For the action, they chose newer and safer BRDM-2.

                          Now you understand?

                          BRDM-1 and BRDM-2
                          It reminded me of the story of the AK-47 and AK-74. Neither the BRDM-1 nor the AK-47 existed until the next generation. Folk art, so to speak laughing
                      2. +1
                        26 July 2020 00: 27
                        Insurgent, if you look, it was you who did the shit .... Aren't you ashamed?
                    2. +5
                      25 July 2020 16: 24
                      Quote: Spade
                      If they were on the BRDM-1

                      If only, if only ... Why not T-38 or T-40
                      1. -2
                        25 July 2020 16: 36
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Why not T-38 or T-40

                        They do not. There are BRDM-1, BRDM-2, BTR-40 and "Vodnik"
                        Accordingly, we chose the safest of the floating ones.
                      2. +15
                        25 July 2020 16: 57
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Quote: Spade
                        If they were on the BRDM-1

                        If only, if only ... Why not T-38 or T-40

                        You would have gone out to sea in a mess. It was not created to walk the seas and oceans.
                        1. +9
                          25 July 2020 17: 55
                          Quote: Marconi41
                          It was not created to walk the seas and oceans.

                          Apparently there was no smart person to suggest. Hope, as always, was in the notorious Russian "maybe". If I have to swim, maybe I will swim across ..
                        2. +15
                          25 July 2020 18: 23
                          Quote: Marconi41
                          You would have gone out to sea in a mess. It was not created to walk the seas and oceans.

                          =========
                          good I was thinking WELL if there would be anyone who would say that the BRDM-2 is NOT a boat or a steamer! This is an ARMORED MACHINE capable of overcoming water obstacles - rivers, small reservoirs and lakes, but not "seas and oceans" in ANY way! and not even 15 km sea ​​straits! He is for this not intended from the word ABSOLUTELY! To make a 2-hour "swim", in conditions when the weather can change, and the equipment is old and worn out (not less than 30 years, but rather all 40-50) is a risk. And unjustified! It is not surprising that the "glove compartment" was drowned, but that this had not happened before!
                          Military-patriotic education is a thing of course very important and necessary! But for such an action it was necessary to pick up something more suitable!!! drinks
                        3. +6
                          25 July 2020 18: 44
                          Quote: venik
                          Military-patriotic education is, of course, a very important and necessary thing! But for such an action it was necessary to find something more suitable !!!

                          From themselves, zealous fools do more harm than a foe.
                  2. +4
                    25 July 2020 17: 20
                    after all, other participants in the crossing reached the coast safely

                    Yes, yes, they did, the only question is what shore did they reach?
                    The first sank, the rest were turned back, so they reached the bank from which they swam.
              2. +9
                25 July 2020 15: 48
                Quote: El Dorado
                And yes, the drowned "Bardak" belonged to the Military-Technical Society.

                it is worth noting how the yellow aviation resource was marked
                "During the exercise, the Russian military drowned their own armored vehicles in the Kerch Strait"
                that's why yellow
                1. +1
                  25 July 2020 15: 53
                  Not surprised. lol In general, Ukraine has attacked the Kerch Bridge a hundred times and arranged provocations there. And we fought with Israel in Syria and died in batches. fool
              3. -4
                26 July 2020 04: 03
                "Mess" .... Controlled? Swam on it (Lord, forgive me?) What is so derogatory about the cool 60s technology fighting all over the world? Is there something of your own ?? Except "yes, everything is bad for us !!" ??
          2. +5
            25 July 2020 16: 40
            It depends on what kind of fleet! For the Black Sea Fleet I will not say, but on the Northern Fleet, in 61 Marine Brigade were.
            1. 0
              25 July 2020 16: 45
              I poyandeksil, the Black Sea Fleet had. Not now. I don't know about SF.
            2. +1
              25 July 2020 19: 20
              Quote: tatarin1972
              on the Northern Fleet, in 61 Marine Brigade were.

              This is when it was / was what In the USSR, production was completed in November 1989. Russia - more than 2000 BRDM-2, of which 1000 BRDM-2 and BRDM-2A are in service, the rest are in storage, as of 2016 (From Wiki)
              Brdm - 2 with conservation (AVITO)
              1983, from storage without operation, in native paint, in factory design, complete set all devices and mechanisms are in good working order, the tower turns, winch, water cannon. Technical condition new, mileage 1800 km, internal combustion engine - ZMZ 41 with compressor, floating, documents form
              900 000 ₽
            3. +1
              25 July 2020 19: 30
              Quote: tatarin1972
              It depends on what kind of fleet! For the Black Sea Fleet I will not say, but on the Northern Fleet, in 61 Marine Brigade were.

              It's hard to imagine MP reconnaissance without BRDM, honestly laughing
              1. +2
                25 July 2020 23: 41
                They were just in 886 ORB 61BrMP.
        2. +8
          25 July 2020 16: 11
          That is, you need to understand that the BRDM was not an army or naval

          As I understand it, they would not have toiled with such nonsense. Could have got some kind of landing boat for a patriotic action then.
        3. +12
          25 July 2020 16: 56
          "BRDM was not army ..."
          That's for sure, but what prevented the organizers of the commemorative event from thinking with their brains and remembering that this machine, especially not new, is designed to cross rivers, and small, not sea straits. They would turn on the brain, there would be no embarrassment with the risk of ruining people.
      3. -3
        25 July 2020 15: 51
        And what would have happened if they had been shot at? If the sea was worried more ... Do not hesitate, or it will come off, there are a lot of hats, we will throw it
        1. +5
          25 July 2020 15: 54
          Quote: Vol4ara
          And what would have happened if they had been shot at?

          ??
          Why shoot them? They are just restoring military equipment.
          1. +1
            25 July 2020 15: 57
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Vol4ara
            And what would have happened if they had been shot at?

            ??
            Why shoot them? They are just restoring military equipment.

            Sorry, this is my ignorance, I thought that these machines are still in service
            1. -2
              25 July 2020 15: 58
              Quote: Vol4ara
              Sorry, this is my ignorance, I thought that these machines are still in service

              http://www.voentex.ru/
        2. +4
          25 July 2020 15: 57
          Why shoot at outdated decommissioned equipment without weapons and soldiers? And who will shoot ?! request
        3. +2
          25 July 2020 15: 59
          Quote: Vol4ara
          And what would have happened if they had been shot at?

          Who? Uncle Fedya from a double-barreled gun? this event is more of the "extreme" series, people jump from houses, climb houses, kayaks along the rapids ...
        4. -7
          25 July 2020 16: 21
          And if your testicles fell off and your beard hair fell out ...
      4. +2
        25 July 2020 16: 05
        Currently, the issue of lifting equipment from the bottom and delivering it to the shore is being resolved.
        Well, here's another useful teaching. It's okay. The economy in Russia is large.
        1. -1
          25 July 2020 16: 11
          I'm afraid they'll get good money from the reenactors for the lift ...
      5. +9
        25 July 2020 16: 39
        I just don’t understand. The farther from the Second World War, the more foolishness for, ostensibly "honoring" certain events of the war. Either the portraits of the veterans were taken on a plane, or the divers lowered these photographs to the bottom. Here the Kerch Strait is "forcing" ... Fucking victory! Well, you cannot really bring such a historical event to the point of absurdity! What did these clowns want to show? Courage and bravery of conscientious soldiers or Bardak's inability to swim in more or less open waters? If the second, then well done - they showed.
      6. -8
        25 July 2020 17: 54
        Quote: george
        There is nothing else to do.

        And then we will talk about patriotic education and historical memory?
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      8. +1
        26 July 2020 05: 29
        Quote: george
        There is nothing else to do.
        Yes, of course there is, but how to cut down the dough quickly and earn points by initiative? And here, "Within the framework of the patriotic action taking place today," everything itself floats into hands. To those who came out with an initiative, crucify the whistle. The BRDM-2 did not sink, but was practically destroyed. Until the end of the year, they will agree on the rise, overhaul, it will not really go into operation.
    2. +5
      25 July 2020 15: 15
      The crew will have something to remember, it's good that everything turned out that way. Here we are praised for the organizers that help was nearby and provided in a timely manner.
      1. -2
        25 July 2020 15: 30
        Quote: Not bad
        The crew will have something to remember, it's good that everything turned out that way. Here we are praised for the organizers that help was nearby and provided in a timely manner.

        Terry, crisp-bakery patriotism in all its glory fellow... One in three is the loss of one third of the technique. Well done, effective organizers fellow I can imagine what kind of shit the Putriots would have if the Ukrainians showed such a result of the Heroic crossing. Yes, putreoty a bunch ... you would all break yourself with laughter.
        It's good that there were no casualties (quote from Lavrov fool )
        1. -2
          25 July 2020 15: 36
          so I see that you have another peremoga lol
          as much a bunch ... n vomits with joy
        2. +5
          25 July 2020 15: 38
          Quote: mdsr
          Terry, crisp-bakery patriotism in all its glory

          Well yes...
          It was necessary to celebrate the anniversary of the first execution of the "fighter for democratic Russia" Tonka the machine gunner.
          With a torchlight procession and howls "has not yet died" and "sala heroi"
          1. -2
            25 July 2020 15: 44
            Absolutely right
          2. 0
            25 July 2020 15: 45
            Correct with fecal processions hi
          3. +5
            25 July 2020 20: 58
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: mdsr
            Terry, crisp-bakery patriotism in all its glory

            Well yes...
            It was necessary to celebrate the anniversary of the first execution of the "fighter for democratic Russia" Tonka the machine gunner.
            With a torchlight procession and howls "has not yet died" and "sala heroi"

            Well, you should know that this is a terry violation not only of safety regulations, but of foundations in general. BRDM and the sea. Kill me at once! What are you talking about!!!
        3. +1
          25 July 2020 16: 21
          Quote: mdsr
          Terry, crisp-bakery patriotism in all its glory

          However, you have an amazingly bleak life. Not life, but vegetation. You will not wish such an enemy, but you, with this incessant anger at everyone and everything, are in your arms every second.
        4. -8
          25 July 2020 18: 53
          Quote: mdsr
          Quote: Not bad
          The crew will have something to remember, it's good that everything turned out that way. Here we are praised for the organizers that help was nearby and provided in a timely manner.

          Terry, crisp-bakery patriotism in all its glory fellow... One in three is the loss of one third of the technique. Well done, effective organizers fellow I can imagine what kind of shit the Putriots would have if the Ukrainians showed such a result of the Heroic crossing. Yes, putreoty a bunch ... you would all break yourself with laughter.
          It's good that there were no casualties (quote from Lavrov fool )

          Look, do not burst from the strain of infidelity. negative I would crush you like a bug, but the admins will not approve of it.
        5. -1
          25 July 2020 22: 46
          Yes putreoty a bunch ... you would all break out with laughter ....... and your ukrobetr in Sevas is stupidly drowned ... and the Black Sea Fleet saved everyone and the bat was raised .... only one detail, our drowned man was from civilians. and your ukrobetr was from a real navy ..... the difference is huge .... to show the pictures of yourself, can you find it?
    3. +20
      25 July 2020 15: 16
      Who in general had such an idea in a bad head, to release such equipment into the sea ???
      1. +6
        25 July 2020 15: 29
        These are schizomilitarists, they can go out into the open ocean on the brdm-2. The car left for the last (sea) patrol.
        1. -16
          25 July 2020 16: 39
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          They are schizomilitarists

          Schizomilitarist rather you, my dear. Since you have long dreamed of an arsenal, and therefore deeply and hopelessly saddened by the ban in Russia of short-barreled and automatic weapons.
          1. +1
            25 July 2020 16: 54
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Since you have long dreamed of an arsenal, and therefore deeply and hopelessly saddened by the ban in Russia of short-barreled and automatic weapons.

            First, find my comments in publications in the field of short-barreled and automatic weapons laughing Are you delusional? Artillery shells lie in the forest near the village of Urman in Bashkiria. There is no sensible security, sappers do not work in winter. And you mean the short-barreled.
            1. -4
              25 July 2020 19: 59
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              First, find my comments in publications in the field of short-barreled and automatic weapons

              You have more than five hundred comments, I will not study all of them. Remind me in a nutshell, if not difficult.
              1. +4
                25 July 2020 20: 21
                I do not comment on topics about small arms, they are not interesting to me. Most of my comments concern shipbuilding, marine engines, docking, and certain issues of the Navy. And then I consider myself an amateur in these matters.
      2. +8
        25 July 2020 15: 35
        Quote: rzzz
        Who in general had such an idea in a bad head, to release such equipment into the sea ???

        There is such a concept, leavened (fusel) patriotism.
        1. -10
          25 July 2020 15: 48
          Fusel is yours.
          We have this patriotic movement.
          Someone in search squads is looking for fallen soldiers.
          Someone, warning the Ministry of Emergencies, is participating in such an action.
          Someone goes to the mountains.
          Someone drives cars with St. George ribbons.
          We are RUSSIANS, you cannot understand us
          1. +11
            25 July 2020 15: 59
            The approaches are really different. You can foolishly drown the BRDM-2 on a wave of turbopatriotism, or you can erect it as a monument in a simple Bashkir village, so that you have somewhere to put flowers on May 9. [/ Center
            1. -8
              25 July 2020 16: 01
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              You can foolishly drown the BRDM-2 on the wave of turbopatriotism, or you can put it as a monument in a simple Bashkir village,

              Exactly.
              Some put their hands to restore the equipment and keep it in working order, others welded the hatches and forgot.
          2. +10
            25 July 2020 16: 44
            Like this:
            Quote: Larinn74
            Someone in search squads is looking for fallen soldiers.

            could be equal to this:
            Quote: Larinn74
            Someone in cars rides with St. George ribbons.

            ?
            Quote: Larinn74
            We are RUSSIANS, you cannot understand us

            Namely, that "RUSSIANS" with Yeltsin's pronunciation ...
          3. +2
            25 July 2020 20: 44
            We are RUSSIANS
            This is how the country was divided. Well, you are Russians, but where are we Russians to go? What do your Georgievites have to do with the 1945 Victory?
            I went to the mountains in 1984-86
            Well, for dessert. The head of the Military Technical Society turns out to be a businessman
            https://www.rusprofile.ru/person/migalin-aa-773175207686
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        3. -2
          25 July 2020 17: 34
          Quote: mdsr
          Quote: rzzz
          Who in general had such an idea in a bad head, to release such equipment into the sea ???

          There is such a concept, leavened (fusel) patriotism.

          Why can't you tear yourself away from this "leavened fusel" patriotism?
          And, would go to themselves, on "purely Velkopopovitsky ..." Western beer patriotism. No, after all winked, it is here that you have to stick around, and watch without blinking belay what they say on the Russian site.
          So, they kicked out of here, but they don't accept it? Did you get it?
        4. -8
          25 July 2020 18: 59
          Quote: mdsr
          Quote: rzzz
          Who in general had such an idea in a bad head, to release such equipment into the sea ???

          There is such a concept, leavened (fusel) patriotism.

          Listen, chubaty. You are already bored. Blow to the hut to the house, twist the pigs' tails. laughing
          1. 0
            25 July 2020 21: 44
            Quote: Not bad
            Listen, chubaty. Are you already fucked up?

            Spit, bighead, you let’s stop pretending to be a schoolgirl. Serious people do not behave like that and do not go to sub-regiments. Maybe you should fall at the feet of the grand master? Say, so, they say, and so, it is my fault, from the village ..., but I give my word
            that I will improve. AND? It sometimes touches him. I'm kidding, of course. It won't help you. We'll have to continue to pretend to be a girl laughing
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    4. +1
      25 July 2020 15: 16
      "naturally" played .... in "battle, as in battle" losses are inevitable.
      The main thing is that people are all safe, but "they will raise a mess, the depths there are not great.
      1. +5
        25 July 2020 16: 19
        Two other armored cars safely reached the Taman coast.

        and that is only because their EMERCOM nicknames turned back
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    5. +10
      25 July 2020 15: 19
      Thank God no casualties
    6. +18
      25 July 2020 15: 26
      The cause of the incident was a strong side wind and the exit of the car to a section with a strong current due to the difference in depth.

      The video shows that the reason was the filling of the compartment with water, where the pump (possibly faulty) could not cope with pumping.
      I do not understand only one thing, why it was necessary to form a crew of five people and what did the organizers try to prove if there was no BRDM-2 in 1943?
      Thank God that people remained safe and sound.
      1. +5
        25 July 2020 15: 33
        Quote: ROSS 42
        why it was necessary to form a crew of five

        There were too many people willing.

        In general, of course, it was wildly lucky that there were no casualties.
        1. +5
          25 July 2020 18: 06
          Quote: rzzz
          In general, of course, it was wildly lucky that there were no casualties.

          Generally, (in military units) evacuation from a sinking armored personnel carrier, BRDM is being practiced. But, judging by the photo, people in civilian clothes are sitting on the armor - who is this? It is clear that they are wildly lucky.
          Today the Zvezda channel broadcasts old films about the navy. This is much more useful. Sechas will end "Commander of the ship" and then "Admiral Ushakov" and "Ships storm the bastions" will go. some of my favorite films.
    7. Gar
      -2
      25 July 2020 15: 32
      It's okay, they didn't calculate a little with the weather. The main thing is that the crew is alive and well.
    8. 0
      25 July 2020 15: 33
      The crew of the armored car in the amount of five people was evacuated, there were no casualties or injured.

      The video clearly shows only 3 crew members. But not the point, the blessing did without sacrifices. In general, the experience is interesting, forcing the practically open area of ​​the sea, I hope the equipment will be raised.
      1. +2
        25 July 2020 16: 24
        In general, the experience is interesting, forcing an almost open area of ​​the sea

        Uh-huh, and quite naturally failed.
        1. 0
          26 July 2020 17: 35
          Uh-huh, and quite naturally failed.


          Two other armored cars safely reached the Taman coast.

          The action "Road of Courage. Kerch Landing", dedicated to the Kerch-Eltigen landing of 1943, has been held in Crimea since 2017, as part of it, armored vehicles overcome the 15-kilometer distance between Taman and Crimea through the Kerch Strait.


          For the third year they have been forced, your "naturally" is not linked to this, unfortunately.
          1. +1
            26 July 2020 23: 11
            For the third year they have been forced, your "naturally" is not linked to this, unfortunately.

            Is it connected with the fact that they got to the Taman coast? Or do you think they forced it from the Crimea towards the Taman Peninsula?
    9. +5
      25 July 2020 15: 34
      Long live the mind, and the insanity will perish (C))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Okay)))))) ) "chaos" just get it out because you don’t clog up the water area .... figures))))))
    10. -4
      25 July 2020 15: 37
      The main thing is that the people are intact, but the RF has nowhere to put such armored cars
      1. -1
        25 July 2020 15: 49
        Quote: Charik
        The main thing is that the people are intact, but the RF has nowhere to put such armored cars

        Yes, the Military-Technical Society, on whose balance sheet was (is) the sunken BRDM-2, will acquire for itself at least a cloud of such vehicles from the stocks of vehicles removed from service or abandoned by the Ukrainians.
      2. -2
        25 July 2020 15: 51
        Taa, you have nowhere to put the repaired equipment ...
        For five years they have been sowing dill, they don’t go to the Russian military.
        We have this private technique
    11. +9
      25 July 2020 15: 44
      All TVs have been dirtied with ads for a ruinous Navy Day.
      it would be better, the veterans of the Navy, provided material assistance.
      In the USSR, there was no such ruinous pomp, and the Navy was the most powerful in the world.
      And there is not enough money to repair Kuzi. In Severomorsk, there is nothing to put new asphalt on the streets.
      1. -7
        25 July 2020 16: 52
        In the USSR, there was no such ruinous pomp, and the Navy was the most powerful in the world.
        And there is not enough money to repair Kuzi. In Severomorsk, there is nothing to put new asphalt on the streets.

        So in the USSR there were no private traders, but they wherever they want to go there and spend money, by the way, you can also try.
      2. -1
        25 July 2020 20: 00
        I am against Putin and the clique, but I am in favor of the fact that he made the navy an all-Russian holiday, our fleet has been famous for its victories since the 18th century, in 150 years the Ottoman fleet has been defeated at the root and the Black Sea was already essentially Russian, but the naglo-Saxons, paddling pools and what then snivel (Sardinian kingdom) took it away from us remember this is the Russian people
    12. +1
      25 July 2020 15: 47
      And what are the conclusions from the relevant government agencies? You can't just swim in the strait! Probably this was agreed with the border guards, the guard of the bridge, the Ministry of Emergencies, who, to one degree or another, took on some of the responsibility. It's good that there were no casualties, but if ... heads flew. Very often decisions are made when the head starts to hurt even before you actually hit it.
      1. +2
        25 July 2020 16: 26
        You can't just swim in the strait!

        Uh-huh ... tell that to the kitesurfers.
        In general, of course, it was agreed who would save them there differently.
    13. -6
      25 July 2020 15: 52
      a vehicle that did not participate in battles sank, and is relatively serviceable; how much more of them will there be in a real situation, with (in the mind laughing ) forcing obstacles on the move?
      1. +7
        25 July 2020 16: 27
        Not at all, because no one will do this. this machine is not intended for sailing on the open sea and sank quite naturally.
        1. -4
          25 July 2020 16: 42
          so in fact they will drown in the rivers.
          If you think so, how much did our floating equipment lacked armor protection in reality? Perhaps in 100% of cases. How relevant was the need for buoyancy? Near zero? ..
          1. +4
            25 July 2020 17: 14
            so in fact they will drown in the rivers.

            In the rivers, after all, the currents and waves are not as strong as in the sea .. in most rivers.
            How relevant was the need for buoyancy? Near zero?

            On the European theater of operations then? well, don't tell me. Still, the floating equipment became as a result of the analysis of the experience of the Second World War
            1. -1
              25 July 2020 17: 36
              so in fact I do not "drown" against floating equipment in principle, it should be in the reserve of the division, such as BMP-3; the rest is protection, even at the expense of cross-country ability
          2. +6
            25 July 2020 20: 00
            Quote: prodi
            so in fact they will drown in the rivers.
            If you think so, how much did our floating equipment lacked armor protection in reality? Perhaps in 100% of cases. How relevant was the need for buoyancy? Near zero? ..

            Just in case: the BRDM is not a vehicle for combat, but for reconnaissance, so its buoyancy and maneuverability was much more important than protection. Surprisingly, for some, this is a revelation. You probably don't even know that, for example, the BRDM-2 was moving so silently that even on the parade ground (!) You could sneak up on some yawning soldier and push him in the back with a wave-deflector shield. And if you pressed, you could jerk 105 km / h. Therefore, even when the new generation reconnaissance vehicles (BRM) appeared, the BRDM remained in service for a long time, as absolutely irreplaceable. And now there is nothing to replace it with. drinks
      2. +13
        25 July 2020 16: 34
        Forcing the strait on the BRDM is a Darwin prize, unambiguously. What kind of patriotic frenzy do you have to be in order to send a car to "sail", and even with people, which is not intended for this? Amphibious tanks PT-76, it happened, during the exercises of the Pacific Fleet, sank 100 m from the coast, despite the fact that their seaworthiness is much higher; the waterproof volume of the case is larger, and so on. Now the rescue operation to lift will cost not even hundreds of thousands - millions of rubles! Those who think that the sea can be cheap and simply take away what it took for itself are deeply mistaken. Only renting a floating crane will cost hundreds of thousands of rubles; an emergency rescue panton, or pantones, will definitely be required; diving support vessel or boat; the work of divers; development of a rescue lifting operation and its coordination and approval. Well done guys, what ... "banquet" all described above who will pay? Private club or local municipal budget? They didn't kill people, you cretins.
      3. +1
        25 July 2020 17: 02
        a vehicle that did not participate in battles sank, and is relatively serviceable; How much more of them will there be in a real situation, with (laughing in the mind) forcing the obstacle on the move?

        From what move?))) It is difficult for a decommissioned mess to take part in battles, unless the Bonistanis will be sent as an armored car.
    14. +3
      25 July 2020 15: 55
      Quote: mdsr
      Quote: rzzz
      Who in general had such an idea in a bad head, to release such equipment into the sea ???

      There is such a concept, leavened (fusel) patriotism.

      there is no such thing as kvass, or fusel, because kvass is according to Russian GOST for industrial production - it is a drink with a volume fraction of ethyl alcohol not more than 1,2%, made as a result of unfinished alcoholic and lactic acid fermentation of wort [5]. In some types of kvass, the alcohol content may exceed 2%. Fusel is a low-quality strong alcoholic drink obtained as a result of incomplete rectification with the content of fusel and essential oils at the level of brandy and whiskey, which is unusual, in particular, for vodka. The name comes from the word "gray", the color that this drink has as a result of light scattering in a colloidal solution of a poorly purified product.
    15. 0
      25 July 2020 15: 56
      Quote: fn34440
      All TVs have been dirtied with ads for a ruinous Navy Day.
      it would be better, the veterans of the Navy, provided material assistance.
      In the USSR, there was no such ruinous pomp, and the Navy was the most powerful in the world.
      And there is not enough money to repair Kuzi. In Severomorsk, there is nothing to put new asphalt on the streets.

      where exactly, on which street in Severomorsk do you need to lay new asphalt ???))))
      1. -1
        25 July 2020 19: 55
        Along Dushenov street
    16. +5
      25 July 2020 15: 57
      BRDM not even an armored personnel carrier, poorly prepared for the transition. The casing is broken, the pump failed, but did 5 people sit there?
      1. +1
        25 July 2020 20: 10
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        BRDM not even an armored personnel carrier, poorly prepared for the transition. The casing is broken, the pump failed, but did 5 people sit there?

        If you just properly "soak" it, then the pump is useless. However, I once drowned an armored personnel carrier, well prepared laughing If the car is ready and the hatches are closed, I see no problem to swim across anything. Apparently, it's all about the "commanders" laughing drinks
        1. +3
          25 July 2020 20: 53
          Apparently, it's all about the "commanders"
          Apparently it's not the reel, the dolt was sitting in the cockpit.
          1. +4
            25 July 2020 21: 03
            Quote: Gardamir
            Apparently, it's all about the "commanders"
            Apparently it's not the reel, the dolt was sitting in the cockpit.

            No, there are 3 gouging: one prepared the car, the second controlled and asserted, and the third performed laughing
    17. -3
      25 July 2020 15: 57
      He had to drown. Oh, but now "these" will have joy ...
    18. +6
      25 July 2020 16: 00
      The Kerch Strait is very difficult for navigation, almost always winds. The average speed of the current in the strait is 0,6-0,9 km / h, with strong winds it can reach 5,5 km / h. The smallest width of the strait is about 5 km. The wind determines the currents in the strait, the flow of water from the Sea of ​​Azov also affects. With strong continuous winds, after the water is driven from the Sea of ​​Azov in the middle part of the strait, regardless of the direction of the wind, a reverse current from the Black Sea begins.
      Almost every year someone drowns in the strait. On November 11, 2007, due to a strong storm (wind speed reached 32 m / s, sea state - 6-7 points), four ships sank in one day in the Azov and Black seas, six ran aground, and two tankers got holes.
      The maximum speed of the BRDM on water is 7-10 km, to walk at least an hour on the water through the Kerch Strait is nonsense.
    19. +4
      25 July 2020 16: 05
      This is what poor preparation for the movement means afloat ... It's good that everyone was saved
    20. +1
      25 July 2020 16: 14
      Enthusiasts. It's good that it worked out.
    21. +1
      25 July 2020 17: 13
      The main thing is that they stayed alive. And metal hell with him!
    22. +1
      25 July 2020 17: 34
      People are safe - this is the main thing. And the car may be raised.
    23. +1
      25 July 2020 17: 54
      I was always sure that it is almost impossible to drown the BRDM ...
      1. +2
        25 July 2020 20: 15
        Quote: Fedorovich
        I was always sure that it is almost impossible to drown the BRDM ...

        Well, you left your "almost" such a chance laughing drinks
    24. -4
      25 July 2020 18: 27
      If this is an organized provocation, the special services are busy.
    25. +2
      25 July 2020 18: 44
      As I understand from the video, the BRDM was walking with the top hatches open. Isn't it supposed to be closed? Just so it doesn't flood over the top?
      1. +2
        25 July 2020 21: 15
        Quote: stock buildbat
        As I understand from the video, the BRDM was walking with the top hatches open. Isn't it supposed to be closed? Just so it doesn't flood over the top?

        When overcoming a water hazard, the machine must be airtight - that is, everything must be closed. Although, like, not a tank, right? And I drowned the APC in the same way. I thought - not a tank! And the wave covered, and the car, as a result, drowned.
    26. 0
      25 July 2020 19: 05
      15 km. However, they swung!
    27. +1
      25 July 2020 19: 06
      Strong current due to depth difference? Rave. This current makes its own depth.
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    29. +2
      25 July 2020 19: 34
      Well, what kind of forcing and without losses can there be?
      Another question is why the hell was this forcing necessary?
      The next question is the weather forecast, religion does not allow to see what ?!
      Hence the conclusion - for some reason they themselves flooded, they themselves violated TB. There is nothing to complain about now.
    30. +2
      25 July 2020 19: 49
      Interestingly, among the gathering of organizers of races .......... there was at least one real former technician of a company or a deputy chief of the battalion ???? The mess is not designed to cover such distances on water !!! Km from the coast or river is its maximum. What kind of specialists were driving there
    31. 0
      25 July 2020 20: 12
      Quote: EGERb
      Along Dushenov street

      tomorrow I'll be there (fortunately there is a reason) I'll look what you want them there)))
    32. +7
      25 July 2020 20: 21
      I even remembered a long story, or maybe an anecdote:
      There was a case in the North, in the Kola. A man of one, a colonel of the Airborne Forces, a friend-tanker (also a regiment) gave birth to a son (with the help of his wife, of course). Well, while she is in the hospital, the paratrooper sits down with two friends in a turntable - and to a friend. We flew in, took a walk to celebrate a little, decided to drive fishing.
      Loaded into an armored personnel carrier - and the company wow: the battalion commander, the chief of staff of the DShB - a paratrooper, two lieutenant colonels on each side (that is, a kind of troops) and a sergeant-driven - took two boxes of dynamite, a canister of alcohol and moved. We arrived at some lake, through which we must cross, well, we swam. And it's hot from the alcohol, well, the tankers opened all these hatches, including the lower ones. In general, twenty meters from the shore, the APC launched bulbs. What to do? The paratrooper is back in the turntable (with two cans of alcohol and a box of pyrotechnics as a kalym) - and to a sapper friend, they say, let's raise your soldiers, the machine. The sappers dived, it appears:
      - Guys, what is the side number of your armored personnel carrier?
      - ??? !!!
      - Yes, there are three of them, so which one to raise?
      1. 0
        25 July 2020 22: 09
        Cool) But were you on the Kola Airborne Forces?
    33. 0
      25 July 2020 20: 23
      The main thing is that people did not suffer.
    34. 0
      25 July 2020 21: 23
      I'm already funny, but isn't it a fake ?! 2 times on a paraglider roll by, what kind of exercise if the zone is closed? !!!!!!!!!
    35. 0
      25 July 2020 21: 29
      Mlyn, amateurs wanted something, they were not lucky, why twist all this as a military theme.
    36. 0
      26 July 2020 09: 01
      Rather than sucking in comments about who is to blame and whether it was necessary to swim, it would be better to prove their patriotism by deed and chipped in money to raise the car.
    37. +1
      26 July 2020 09: 04
      The Military Technical Society is not DOSAAF, but a society of amateurs and restorers of military equipment. Therefore, the car most likely has a specific owner. How he will lift the car, the question.
    38. 0
      26 July 2020 11: 08
      We rehearsed the landing across the English Channel. It didn't work the first time.
    39. 0
      26 July 2020 17: 53
      and tomorrow there will be news "when trying to fly to the moon from a springboard, a T-72 crashed."
    40. +1
      27 July 2020 11: 20
      There is no worse dreamer and creative person ...

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