Brothers in Arms: Russians, Germans, Italians, British, French, Japanese and Austrians in one formation

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Brothers in Arms: Russians, Germans, Italians, British, French, Japanese and Austrians in one formation

From Malay waters to Altai
Leaders from the eastern islands
At the walls of the drooping China
Collected the darkness of their regiments.

As locusts are innumerable
And insatiable like her,
Stronghold kept by
Tribes going north



Oh Russia! forget the former glory:
The two-headed eagle is afflicted
And yellow children for fun
Given the shreds of your banners.
V. Soloviev. Panmongolism ", 1894


World battles stories. And it so happened that China, belatedly integrating into the world cultural and economic community, began intensive modernization at the end of the XNUMXth century. And, of course, millions of ordinary Chinese have only gotten worse from this era of change. The enemy, and quite visible, was before our eyes: foreigners. A "kulak uprising" or "boxer uprising", as it was called in the West, began for the good old traditions, against foreign influences. The rebels captured Beijing and laid siege to the embassy quarter, where its personnel, including women, had to weapons in the hands of fighting for your life. What are the norms of international law, what are you talking about when the slogan of the day: "Death to foreigners!" In general, it was so that the uneducated and hungry masses of people got lost in gangs, armed themselves with whatever they could and went to kill the "foreign devils of foreigners", from which, as they believed, all their troubles were. The rebels killed the baptized Chinese, killed missionaries, including women and children (however, they often only cut off their hands for children!), And even began shelling Blagoveshchensk with artillery pieces.


Ships of the international squadron. Raid Taku

Even before these events, the international coalition of Great Britain, Germany, Russia, France, the USA, Japan, Italy and Austria-Hungary sent warships to the Zhili Bay to the mouth of the Peiho River, and to the Embassy Quarter in Beijing and the international village of Tianjin to protect them - detachments of sailors. Their connection with the squadron, stationed off the coast of China, took place by rail going from Beijing to Tanggu station near the mouth of the Peiho River, and further to the sea - by small boats. But where the Peiho River flows into the sea at Dagu, there were Chinese fortifications that controlled communications of the allied forces. Meanwhile, in mid-June, the Chinese government openly supported the "boxers", strengthened the garrisons of the Dagu forts and began to mine the mouth of the Peiho River.

Under these conditions, on June 2 and 3, on the cruiser "Russia", the senior in rank, the commander of the Russian Pacific squadron, Vice Admiral Giltebrandt, held meetings of the admirals of the international squadron. It was decided that the nature of the Chinese actions towards the allies was clearly hostile, as evidenced by their attempt to destroy the railway between Taku and Tianjin and the mining of the Peiho estuary. At first, it was decided to take measures to suppress such activity, and on June 3, the admirals considered it necessary to present an ultimatum to the Chinese side, which was handed over to Commandant Law by the commander of one of the Russian destroyers, Lieutenant Bakhmetyev. The second ultimatum was sent to the Viceroy of the Zhili province in Tianjin.

Four Chinese forts should have been taken by peace or by force of arms: two on the left bank of the Peiho - North-West and North and two on the right - South and New, equipped with strong artillery of 240 guns of a wide variety of systems and calibers of which, however, 54 guns were the newest guns of Armstrong and Krupp. With the possibility of a circular fire, they could shoot at the mouth of the river and shell the river itself, which, due to its constant bends, ran almost parallel to all the forts four times. The distance between the two forts blocking the mouth of the river was no more than 100 fathoms, that is, it was simply very difficult to miss here.


Because of the shallow water, the cruisers and battleships of the international squadron could not approach the shore closer than 20 miles. Therefore, the gunboats of the squadron had to bombard the forts, if necessary. From the Russian side - "Gilyak", "Korean" and "Beaver" who had approached the day before. There were also the French gunboat "Lion", the British "Algerin" and the counter-destroyer "Vaytin" and the German gunboat "Iltis".


Sea-going gunboat "Gilyak", 1898

Residents of Taku and Tonku were asked to leave their homes within an hour and move to safety for the sake of safety on the American warship "Monokashi", placed on the river out of range of shots. On the same day, the British destroyer "Waitin" touched one of the Chinese mines during the movement, but that, fortunately, for some reason did not explode.


Gunboat "Korean" at Taku

At 5 pm at Dobrovolsky, the commander of the gunboat "Bobr", a council of war of the commanders of the Russian and foreign gunboats gathered, where they worked out a plan for the upcoming battle and discussed the disposition of the ships. The signal to open fire was to be given by the "Beaver".


Gunboat "Lion", 1886

An amphibious detachment of sailors was also prepared under the general command of the German captain Hugo Paul, who had at his disposal 350 British sailors under the command of Captain Cradock; 230 Japanese captains Hattori; 130 German; 50 Austrian and 25 Italian lieutenants Tank.


Gunboat "Akagi"

On the same evening, a consolidated company of the 12th regiment of 168 men arrived at Tak under the command of Lieutenant Stankevich. The company was transported by barge to Tonka, where it was ordered to join up with an international assault force, bivouacking near the railway station.


The gunboat "Iltis" fires at the Taku forts

At 8:30 in the evening the ships began to change their position and by nightfall they stood almost parallel to the forts as follows: "Vaytin", "Algerin", "Beaver", "Koreets" and "Gilyak". Behind the bend of the river, slightly upstream and also parallel to the line of the forts, were Lyon, Iltis, Atago and Monokasi.


An interesting drawing from the Niva magazine. But in fact everything was not so there ...

There were two hours before the ultimatum expired. And then on the forts two electric searchlights lit up, illuminated the boats that were standing on the river in front of the forts and went out again. And the fact was that the commandant of the fortress, General Luo, had already received at that time by telegraph from Tianjin an order not to give Taku forts to foreigners in any case.


Battle plan from "Niva"

Therefore, after checking with a searchlight, whether all the gunboats were in their places, which had long been pointed by the guns of the forts, and being completely sure that the foreigners would carry out their threat without fail, General Law decided to shoot at the boats, without waiting until foreigners themselves will not start shooting.


And this is a map from the English edition ...

The night was very dark. In the dim moonlight, the long line of forts was barely visible, but still slightly visible. One hour and ten minutes remained before the ultimatum expired.


North Fort (Germanic plan)

The sailors slept, without undressing, right at the guns. Well, how to say, they were asleep ... Many could not close their eyes with excitement and argued with each other: will the Chinese surrender the forts or not. And if they do not surrender, but will they do it against all ships of the squadron or not? Needless to say, the pairs on all the ships were divorced, and the guns had long been loaded ...


Northwest Fort (German plan)

But here on one of the forts the flash of a shot flashed. The grenade whirred over the Gilyak. Searchlights flashed on the forts, and shots from them rang out one after another. A combat alarm was sounded on the ships of the international squadron. "Beaver", as it was agreed, gave the signal to open fire, after which "Gilyak", "Koreets" and "Algerin" also began firing at the forts.


Northwest Fort (English plan)

The distance from "Gilyak" to the nearest North-West fort was about one and a half kilometers, and to the most remote New Fort - more than two and a half. So it was difficult to miss here. However, at the very beginning of the cannonade, the shells, although flying directly over the boats, did not hit the target. Most likely, the Chinese aimed their cannons at the boats at high tide. Now it was low tide, the ships sank along with the water level in the river, so the shells gave flight.


Very often in magazines of those years, instead of photographs, graphic images were printed, taken from photographs

The French gunboat "Lion" and the German "Iltis" moved down the river and opened fire on the forts on the move. At the same time, the British counter-destroyers "Waitin" and "Fem" went to attack four Chinese destroyers. The Chinese tried to shoot back with guns and revolvers, but after the British began firing at them with cannons, they fled ashore. The prisoners were taken to Tonka, but on the way back a 5-inch shell broke one of the cauldrons on the destroyer "Waitin".


View of the forts from the river

Meanwhile, the Chinese were shooting at Iltis. Seventeen grenades, and then another, landed in this gunboat and almost completely smashed the upper deck on it. Commander Lanz lost his leg and was also wounded by 25 shrapnel from a shell burst. Moreover, the Chinese also fired Krupp shells and Krupp guns, so it was especially offensive. In addition to the commander, who was seriously wounded, another officer and six sailors on the ship were killed and 17 people were injured.


Courtyard and main tower of one of the forts

One grenade hit the French "Lyon", the explosion of which killed one person and injured 46 more. One of the Japanese ships, the gunboat Akagi, did not participate in the battle, since the car broke down on it, and the second, the Kagero, was with the Russian destroyers in the coastal zone, where it was monitoring the Chinese cruiser Hai Ten. who stood under the flag of the Chinese admiral, but did not show any intention to join the battle.


A gun of one of the forts with an armor shield pierced by two shells

The gunboats and forts continued to fire. The ships of the allied squadron illuminated them with searchlights, and they answered with a hail of shells. But the allied squadron had something to respond to shots from the forts. Thus, the Russian gunboats had powerful guns of caliber 229 and 203 mm, as well as 152-mm and 120-mm guns, which at such a short distance fired with high accuracy.

On the Russian ships, the crews began to suffer losses: the gunboat "Gilyak" on Mars, Lieutenant Bogdanov, was wounded in the face by a shrapnel. Quartermaster Ivanov was blown off his head by a shrapnel.


Gilyak officers. Taku Forts (Dagu), June 3, 1900

But the submarine received the most severe damage at about 3 am, when a Chinese shell hit a cartridge cellar and caused an explosion of shells located there. Lieutenant Titov, who was at that time on the deck near the hatch, received severe burns to his back and head and literally miraculously survived. 136 rounds exploded immediately, causing the deck above the cellar to swell, and a fire broke out on the upper deck near the guns. In addition to Lieutenant Titov, five more people were killed, and 38 lower ranks were wounded.


And this is how "Gilyak" got it ...

Later, everyone noted that the Gilyak team fought heroically. The fire was poured with buckets and cannons in 15 minutes. Mechanical engineer Lavrov and Busse, together with the sailors, found and repaired the hole made by the projectile, and then also repaired the damage caused by the explosion to the car, so that two hours later, the ship got going again. But the sailors of the Gilyak did not flinch and, together with the officers, stubbornly and fearlessly continued to simultaneously save their ship and destroy the forts. The fireman Pluzhnikov extinguished the fire under the lower deck until he lost consciousness, and the helmsman Ulanovsky fed in cartridges, standing up to his waist in water, so that the gun above continued to fire.

All in all, eight people died on the Gilyak, and 48 were wounded, including the officer's cook, who also bravely rushed to put out the fire. And from some of the dead, only one coal remained.

The first Chinese shell hit the gunboat "Koreets" at about 3 am. A fire started in the wardroom, thanks to the well-coordinated actions of the crew, it was extinguished very quickly, although the bomb cellar, the cruise chamber and the cartridge compartment had to be flooded. Another shell destroyed all the officers' cabins on the starboard side and pierced the watertight bulkhead in the engine room.

Lieutenant Burakov and three sailors were killed.

Despite the fire, the fire from the Koreyets did not diminish. The commander ordered to fire pyroxylin shells from the 8-inch starboard cannon. Already the second shot he made fired a powder magazine at one of the forts. A loud "Hurray!" crew members.


Krupp's gun of one forts hit by a shell

The fans of the stoker were smashed by another Chinese grenade. Lieutenant Dedenev was mortally wounded in the legs, and in total two officers and nine sailors were killed on the Koreyets. Another 20 people were injured.

Most fortunate in this battle was the gunboat "Beaver", armed with a powerful 229-mm gun in the bow casemate. No matter how much the Chinese fired at him, they never hit. And no one on it was wounded or killed. The Beaver himself managed to blow up the powder magazine at the New Fort. It is interesting that two pigeons sat on one of the yards on the mast of the "Beaver" during the entire battle and ... they never flew away from it!


On land at 1 o'clock in the morning, when the first shots were heard from the direction of the Chinese forts, the Russian troops landed on the left bank of the Peiho joined the Japanese, German and English soldiers and marched to the forts. The Germans went ahead, followed by all the others.

Waiting for the fire from the forts to subside, Captain Paul called the commanders for a conference. It was clear that the gunboats did not inflict much damage on the forts, so most of the commanders decided to retreat.


Krupp's gun at one of the Taku forts, broken by shells from the united European squadron

Lieutenant Stankevich took the floor and suggested waiting another hour, assuring that during this time the artillery of the forts would be weakened. "As a last resort I will go to take the fort alone," said Stankevich and moved forward with the company. It is clear that after such a statement it would be a shame to refuse to follow his example, and the troops began to move towards the ramparts.

The Germans and Austrians went along with the Russians, the Japanese lagged behind somewhat.

It was 5 o'clock in the morning when the Chinese finally noticed the paratroopers and opened rifle and cannon fire on them. However, now the landing force could fire from rifles at the servants of Japanese guns, including those that fired at the ships!


The strange composition of the armament of one of the Chinese forts: the most modern 37-mm automatic cannon at that time, an English pom-pom and a muzzle-loading gun!

Then Lieutenant Stankevich, along with Second Lieutenant Yanchis, three non-commissioned officers and two more riflemen, rushed to the gates of the fort, broke them open with blows of butts, and, quite unexpectedly for the Chinese, burst into the fort. The Japanese ran after them to the gate, overtook everyone else and immediately after the Russians also found themselves in the courtyard of the fort. Only then the Chinese came to their senses a little and managed to fire a buckshot at the goal. Captain Hattori died, but the Japanese were not deterred. Lieutenant Shiraishi took the place of the killed, and his soldiers rushed to kill their eternal enemies, sparing no one. Then the British came up and raised their flag over the fort, since they had taken care of the presence of flags at the landing party in advance. But at the right moment the Russians, as a rule, did not have the most necessary, so Stankevich nailed a non-commissioned officer's shoulder strap of one of the people of his company onto the flagpole of the British flag.


Hitting the gunboat Iltis

At 5 hours the Northwest Fort was taken. The crews of the gunboats greeted the raising of the English flag over it with loud shouts of "hurray!" At 30 o'clock in the morning, all boats weighed down and began to descend down the river to attack the South and New forts.


The pipe of the gunboat Iltis, riddled with fragments of Chinese shells

Well, the allied landing moved to the Northern Fort and quickly occupied it, since the Chinese simply fled from it. And again the English flag was raised over it, while one of the Austrian gunners turned a Chinese gun towards the South Fort and blew up the powder magazine on it with the first shot. Its defenders fled, but were hit by a burst of Maxim machine guns, which stood on the battle marches of the Gilyak gunboat and fired almost continuously.

At 6 hours in the morning, both southern forts were sequentially occupied, over one of which the Russian flag was finally raised. The German and Austrian flags were raised over the New Fort, the Japanese flag over the North, and the British and Italian flags were now flying over the Northwest.

As for the captured Chinese destroyers, Russia, England, France and Germany divided them among themselves, and the Russian destroyer turned out to be very fast, was named after the first officer who died in battle "Lieutenant Burakov" and later became famous in the defense of Port Arthur ...


The storming of the Taku (Dagu) forts on June 4, 1900. Based on a Chinese illustration published in Tianjin

As for the commandant of the forts, the Chinese Luo, although he tried to defend the forts to the last, he could not do anything. Seeing the flags of "foreign devils" fluttering over them, he committed suicide in the duty of the Chinese military leader.

Well, the brothers in arms went to their ships. Yes, whatever you say, but the common danger and kinship of interests bring even the most diverse people very close!
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  1. +9
    30 July 2020 05: 03
    I reward the author for his work.
    Yes, whatever you say, but the common danger and kinship of interests bring even the most diverse people very close!

    I would like to say that this example of Chinese unpredictability should serve as a warning and limit the breadth of a "friendly" hug.
    1. +12
      30 July 2020 06: 19
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I would like to say that this example of Chinese unpredictability should serve as a warning and limit the width of the "friendly" hug

      In that situation, it is somehow strange to blame the Chinese for all sins ... imperialistic predators tore and plundered China, and this is considered civilized ...
      1. +5
        30 July 2020 11: 34
        imperialistic predators tore and plunder China

        Who is the Qing Empire in your classification? Something herbivorous?
    2. -16
      30 July 2020 07: 40
      what reason was the same Austrians, Japanese, French, Italians, Belgians, Dutch, Spaniards (somehow the author forgot about them), Americans who did not even have colonies in China to get involved in Chinese affairs? If your ambassadors, as a result of a lower uprising, like historians write destroyed, then because of this they do not start a war, and the devil only knows where from Europe. Austrians and Italians, that there was little to do in Europe? The French, who lost the Franco-Prussian war, generally hated the Prussians and the Germans, but then they must have stood up in one coalition and drove distant China to fight together? This is a very strange war. For whom should they fight, for the English benefits of selling poison to the Aboriginal - opium?
      In short, the political underpinnings of the fact that the entire civilized world suddenly took up arms against one underdeveloped state in terms of OI is not clear, it turns out that China was not so underdeveloped ... According to the official history. Chinese Tartary - the last shard of Great Tartary and the conquerors of Tartary.
      This was the last war of Tartary.
      1. +4
        30 July 2020 08: 28
        Quote: Bar1
        If your ambassadors were destroyed as a result of the uprising of the lower classes, as historians write, then they do not start a war because of this, and the devil knows where from Europe.

        There would be a reason for the war, and then no one will ask why and why. After that, the US gained a military and economic presence in China. And so the gunboat policy was born.
        1. -1
          30 July 2020 08: 41
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Bar1
          If your ambassadors were destroyed as a result of the uprising of the lower classes, as historians write, then they do not start a war because of this, and the devil knows where from Europe.

          There would be a reason for the war, and then no one will ask why and why. After that, the US gained a military and economic presence in China. And so the gunboat policy was born.


          Why didn't the Dutch get it, with the Italians, they fought for nothing?
          1. +2
            30 July 2020 09: 07
            Quote: Bar1
            Why didn't the Dutch get it, with the Italians, they fought for nothing?

            Mugs did not come out.
            1. -7
              30 July 2020 11: 12
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Mugs did not come out.
              Reply

              This is the answer of a real historian, of course, in any science, the subjective factor of mug always prevails over historical objectivity and even outstrips historical laws. Students of the EG usually answer with such answers when they do not know what to say.
          2. 0
            2 August 2020 14: 38
            Quote: Bar1
            Why didn't the Dutch get it, with the Italians, they fought for nothing?

            The Italians simply did not have the means to deliver troops to South China. Diplomatically, they almost achieved the consent of the Chinese to transfer the Chinese lands they claimed to them under their control.
            1. 0
              3 August 2020 09: 12
              Quote: gsev
              The Italians simply did not have the means to deliver troops to South China. Diplomatically, they almost achieved the consent of the Chinese to transfer the Chinese lands they claimed to them under their control.

              how did it not turn out? If they took part in the war, then it turned out.
              1. 0
                7 August 2020 08: 44
                Quote: Bar1
                So it turned out.

                The Italians were able to obtain a concession in Tanjin, which they owned before the surrender in World War II, that is, until 2. In addition, the Italians tried to obtain a huge colony in southern China through diplomatic efforts. But for this they did not have enough troops and navy, although diplomats managed to involve China in negotiations on this. Now it seems like an incident, but until 1943 China was a gateway for all more or less powerful countries.
      2. -10
        30 July 2020 08: 33
        the author, somehow, forgets to say everything what kind of war it was. And it was a RELIGIOUS war, and not only a war of conquest on the one hand and liberation on the other, but also a war when the so-called Chinese destroyed the Christians imposed on China. This is generally strange why have Christians become so hated by the Chinese? Well, probably because it was Christians who committed lawlessness on these lands and destroyed their own original culture of this people.
        But this is certainly not all, as a result of the war, the very essence of China was replaced, instead of white tartars, Chinese Mongoloids were installed in China and the "great Chinese" history was written by them.
        1. +5
          30 July 2020 10: 34
          Quote: Bar1
          And it was a RELIGIOUS war, and not only a war of conquest on the one hand and liberation on the other, but also a war when the so-called Chinese destroyed the Christians imposed on China.

          The "Taiping" uprising can be considered a religious war, but to a lesser extent "boxing" in which the main goal of the struggle was the domination of foreigners.
          The "Taiping" uprising was led by the organizer of quasi-Christianity in China, Hong Xiuquan. For a while, it seemed that the Taipings would overthrow the Qing Empire. But the rebels were unable to take either Shanghai or Beijing. In 1864, the government army took Nanjing, and Hong was poisoned. But the last Taiping army was defeated only in 1871. The number of victims of the "first religious war" in China was staggering: in the years 1850-1864 20 million people died.
          1. -4
            30 July 2020 11: 19
            Quote: tihonmarine
            The "Taiping" uprising can be considered a religious war, but to a lesser extent "boxing"

            you don't know that either.
            Actually, the war of 1900 took place under religious slogans and it was in 1900.
            In 1899 - 1900 in China were marked by the beginning of the Ihetuan movement, under anti-foreign and anti-Christian slogans


            https://proza.ru/2011/04/24/1398
            1. +3
              30 July 2020 12: 00
              Quote: Bar1
              Actually, the war of 1900 took place under religious slogans and it was in 1900.

              I just know, my great-grandfathers and grandfathers, someone worked on the construction of the CER, and someone fought there.
      3. +3
        30 July 2020 11: 05
        Colleague Bar, you started right: "" if your posts, as a result of the uprising of the lower classes (provoked by Qi Xi), were destroyed, "it was always believed that an attack on the embassy was an attack on the state. In this case, the French could go for.
        temporary alliance with the Germans.
        But you crossed everything out with Tartary
        All the same, you +
        1. -1
          30 July 2020 11: 24
          Quote: Astra wild
          In this case, the French could go for.
          temporary alliance with the Germans.

          and the Spaniards, Italians, Dutch, what was needed in China?

          Quote: Astra wild
          All the same, you +

          and then he cheated ...
          1. +4
            30 July 2020 12: 01
            Quote: Bar1
            and the Spaniards, Italians, Dutch, what was needed in China?

            With all the capitalist, grab a piece, or influence on China.
            1. -1
              30 July 2020 12: 56
              Quote: tihonmarine
              That is all a capitalist, grab a piece, or influence on China

              Duc they didn't get anything ...
              1. +2
                30 July 2020 13: 24
                Quote: Bar1
                Duc they didn't get anything ...

                Duc because they did not give them, but they really wanted to, but the Wishlist did not grow.
                1. -5
                  30 July 2020 14: 15
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Duc because they did not give them, but they really wanted to, but the Wishlist did not grow.

                  The mug did not come out, but the Wishlist did not grow, you bury your talent in the ground on topvo, you need to write books.
          2. 0
            30 July 2020 14: 30
            Like this
      4. +15
        30 July 2020 11: 58
        Quote: Bar1
        This was the last war of Tartary.

        Well, that's good. Hopefully now it’s finally done with her, you’ll calm down and start taking your medication. Don't worry, we will make sure that everything is in order with the history, rest easy.
        Quote: Bar1
        instead of white tartars, Chinese Mongoloids were installed in China and the "great Chinese" history was written by them.

        And the Masters of the West (for the Chinese, by the way, we are also "West", and the United States, just the East smile ) this is the most normal practice - to kill the indigenous white population in some country, quickly give birth to Mongoloids there, as a substitute (and, surely, do not empty the territory), well, and immediately come up with a great story for them - and the entertainment is good, you can dream up Well, the goals are the best - let, say, the guys think that they are ancient and great, and we will stand aside and laugh at the poor, as they attribute our own achievements to themselves. It's fun!
        For example, we take some monograph of our military man on the organization of hostilities, translate it into the Chinese language and writing we have invented, call it the treatise "The Art of War" and call the author something funny like that ... Sun Wpen ... No, Sun Wyn ... No, not that. Sun Tzu. So that it was not at all clear what kind of tzu, where to stick ... Here is a laugh! And they will think that they did it all themselves!
        1. +10
          30 July 2020 12: 22
          No, not that. Sun Tzu.

          There was also Lao Tzu. Philosopher. wink I read somewhere that this episode happened to him (here he is displayed under the name Chuangzi) drinks
          He lived among the Suntans Torgash. The Sun king once sent him as an ambassador to Qin and gave him several chariots with him. And Torgash managed to please the Qin king, and he had a hundred chariots.
          Returning home, Torgash met with Chuangzi and began to laugh at him:
          - You live in the very back street of a poor village and weave sandals out of need. I, Torgash, of course, do not have such a long dry neck, and I do not have such a yellow face. But as soon as I enlighten the Qin king, how did I get a whole hundred chariots?
          - Go away! - answered Chuangzi. - When the Qin king was ill, he called doctors. The doctor who opened the boil and removed the lung tumor received one carriage, and the doctor who licked the hemorrhoids received five carts. The lower the treatment method, the higher the reward. How did you treat his hemorrhoids that you deserved so many chariots?
          request
          1. +6
            30 July 2020 13: 01
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            How did you treat his hemorrhoids that you deserved so many chariots?

            Hussars (from the previous article of the author) - SILENCE! laughing
            1. +5
              30 July 2020 14: 12
              Hussars (from the previous article of the author) - SILENCE!

              The Sea Cat will not be silent, although he is a dashing cuirassier! laughing well, if he was a tank commander - a cuirassier? drinks
              1. +4
                30 July 2020 17: 53
                If there was no causal place for hanging, then the easiest way to put Madame on a stake, or you can immediately put on two. Cheap and cheerful, and Europeans have a wealth of practice. laughing drinks
                1. +4
                  30 July 2020 23: 47
                  then madam is easiest to put on a stake, or you can immediately for two

                  Kostya, they put men on a stake - for them it is mortally humiliating. And women - meaning? Habitual, and for some it will easily slip through. At once for two - generally a gift of fate and free advertising.laughing
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  2. +8
    30 July 2020 06: 18
    That's interesting.

    “The landing force could fire at the servicemen with Japanese guns” - is that a typo?
    1. +5
      30 July 2020 07: 21
      Itself drew attention to this
  3. +23
    30 July 2020 07: 16
    And it so happened that China, belatedly integrating into the world cultural and economic community, began intensive modernization at the end of the XNUMXth century. And, of course, millions of ordinary Chinese have only gotten worse from this era of change. The enemy, and quite visible, was before our eyes: foreigners. The "uprising of the fist", or "the uprising of the boxers", as it was called in the West, began for the good old traditions, against foreign influences
    And it was somewhat wrong. The world "cultural and economic society" in the person of Germany, Japan, Russia, Great Britain, France, the USA, Italy and Austria-Hungary tore stuck in feudalism and did not seek to integrate into this very "world" community, China, like Tuzik a hot water bottle.

    Naturally, no one worried about the interests of millions of ordinary Chinese. And then there was a drought. And with her hunger. So this uprising is understandable. People just didn't see any other way out.
    1. +10
      30 July 2020 07: 36
      "And then there was a drought. And with it and hunger" add to this the policy of Empress Tsi Xi. In order to preserve her power, she has long "fueled" discontent.
      Then she turned 180 degrees and, with a frenzy, began reprisals against the rebels.
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        +5
        30 July 2020 08: 58
        I just left my people behind. She should be hung for these tricks in one place
        1. +8
          30 July 2020 11: 23
          She should be hung for these tricks in one place

          anatomy, sir! She didn't have such a place, whatever one may say. wink
          China had to go through several more circles of hell (the last one under Mao) to become one of the strongest world powers. But they did it. soldier
          To our Vyacheslav Olegovich - I bow for the work! hi
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            +6
            30 July 2020 12: 08
            I forgot. But essentially I'm right
            1. +5
              30 July 2020 12: 11
              I forgot. But essentially I'm right

              In fact, yes. There were many who were worth hanging after ...
              1. +6
                30 July 2020 23: 56
                Wei, why waste soap? The cartridges must be periodically refreshed! bully
    2. +5
      30 July 2020 14: 08
      Victor, good afternoon and best wishes! smile

      Just ave Tuzik.
      1. +5
        31 July 2020 00: 04
        Kostya, when did the Cat manage to start Tuzik? Am I missing something? request

        1. +1
          31 July 2020 04: 01
          I missed it. We had a wonderful peasant of French nationality, Julien von Tsollis, who responded to the simple Russian name Rogue. Unfortunately, I did not live to see you. sad
    3. +3
      30 July 2020 23: 54
      And then there was a drought. And with her hunger.

      hi The presence of an external enemy came in handy. Classics of the genre.
  4. +8
    30 July 2020 07: 39
    Colleagues, you can read more about this: Yanchevitsky "At the Walls of Immovable China".
  5. +17
    30 July 2020 07: 41
    How the author turned everything upside down. It all started with the practical colonization of China by the British, with the landing of the "middle class" of China on opium. It was the "century of shame", as it would later be called in China. And now they call it. China was simply torn to pieces. The famous "We don't want to drive anyone into the shadows, but we also demand a place in the sun for ourselves," the German admiral uttered there, if my memory serves me right. Nobody asked the Chinese. For China, it was a disaster that completely embittered the people. Well, then a specific intervention began, with which we were already familiar in Crimean and will get to know in Civic. And here we were invaders. And then they took Beijing.
    1. +2
      30 July 2020 09: 16
      Well, given that China was ruled by the Chinese manchurs, and there was nothing to ask
    2. +5
      30 July 2020 14: 21
      Alexander Tribuntsev, I strongly advise you to read: "At the walls of immovable China" (available on the Internet). The author is a direct participant in those events. He talks about the Ihetuan movement and that in fact the peasants acted on the orders of Tsi Xi.
      "And here we were invaders. And after that they took Pikin."
      In fact, it was a humanitarian operation. Otherwise, the rebels would have killed everyone in the "embassy quarter".
      Unfortunately, Vyacheslav Olegovich was too lazy to talk about the course of the uprising and what is happening in Beijing.
      1. +4
        30 July 2020 14: 47
        All this was already a consequence of previous events. Not only the Russian revolt is senseless and merciless. On the body of the dying, as it seemed then, China, all the colonialists were in a hurry to profit. The era of colonialism is in full bloom.
        1. VIP
          +1
          30 July 2020 15: 17
          It's bad that for the sake of someone's interests, strangers almost died
          1. +1
            30 July 2020 20: 34
            And not just, but completely perished.
  6. +3
    30 July 2020 08: 29
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    Pleased. Somehow I didn’t pay attention to this conflict before. In general, until the beginning of the twentieth century, I considered wars ... "Not interesting", or something ... And here is such an international battle!
  7. VIP
    +6
    30 July 2020 08: 53
    Vyacheslav, you are reproached: they mentioned: "the rebels seized Beijing and laid siege to the embassy quarter" and that's it. I was hoping that you would tell us more about this.
    I bet 3 to 1 that many people do not know about what happened in Beijing and they would be interested
    1. 0
      2 August 2020 16: 35
      This would require not one, but several articles ...
  8. -3
    30 July 2020 10: 05
    One of the few shameful pages in the history of the Russian army
    1. +4
      30 July 2020 11: 15
      There are many such "pages of history". Not the Russian army, but imperialism or "world capital". To have colonies in China was "considered" mandatory - "world order", however. For almost the entire history of mankind, China has been the largest economy in the world.
      Let us suppose that all these soldiers did not fight "in one formation," for "their" shares. At first there were enough shares, but then the "young imperialist predators" of the USA and Japan entered the struggle.
      By the way, the "Russian" song "OUR proud Varyag does not surrender to the enemy" was written by a composer from Germany in German.
      1. VIP
        +1
        30 July 2020 13: 30
        Bad example contagious
      2. VIP
        0
        30 July 2020 13: 34
        I know what the German wrote about the Varyag, but I don’t cut the Varyag sideways when you frighten imperialism?
        1. +3
          30 July 2020 13: 45
          Double standarts. On the one hand "... our proud" Varyag ", on the other hand - participation in the imperialist seizure of the colonies. It is impossible to assess the policy of the powers from modern positions, especially such an imperialist power as Russia, which disappeared and as the USSR contributed to the decolonization of Asia and Africa. It is wrong to call the colonialists “brothers in arms.” The criminals are not friends and comrades, but accomplices.
          On the other hand, a soldier is a soldier: he obeys an order, enters into relations with the local population, allies and the enemy, fights, dies, and in all his actions reveals traits of national character.
          1. +7
            30 July 2020 14: 48
            In fact, if you look at history, then Russia as a colonizer was somehow not "correct": it tried to raise the colonies and to the detriment of the metropolis. I read here on the site what rights Finland had: its own currency, constitution, parliament. Whether the "correct" colonialists: England, Holland, Germany: they ripped off their colonies like sticky
            1. 0
              2 August 2020 16: 33
              Quote: Astra wild
              their colonies were ripped off like sticky

              Wrong! The British ripped off India so much that the Indians now say that they owe everything to England. Have you read Kipling's novel "Kim"? Be sure to read. You will understand how they ruled the colonies and why they stayed in them for so long.
  9. +6
    30 July 2020 11: 33
    An amphibious detachment of sailors was also prepared under the general command of the German captain Hugo Paul, who had at his disposal 350 British sailors under the command of Captain Cradock;

    Captain Cradock is the same future Admiral Christopher Cradock, known to us for his glorious (or senseless) death in the sea battle at Coronel in 1914, when the German raiders Scharnhorst and Gneisenau sent the English Good Hope to the bottom of the same gate and Monmouth. On Good Hope, in fact, Cradock died.
    1. +7
      30 July 2020 11: 53
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      Captain Cradock is the same future Admiral Christopher Cradock, known to us for his glorious (or senseless) death in the sea battle at Coronel in 1914.

      Yeah ... and his then commander, Captain Hugo von Paul, is the future Commander of the German High Seas Fleet in WWI.
      1. +6
        30 July 2020 12: 30
        And from ours, from those who participated in the incident, no one received fame ... I just glanced at it, the future Vice Admiral Fyodor Fedorovich Silman commanded the "Koreyets" in 1900, but did not show himself in anything further.
        Kirill Romanovich Dobrovolsky, the commander of the Beaver, retired with the rank of Rear Admiral and died in 1907.
        The commander of "Gilyak" Sarychev Vladimir Fedorovich - the one who drowned the "Boyar" in Port Arthur, for which he was convicted, also rose to the rank of lieutenant general for the Admiralty, but really, like the previous ones, did not become famous for anything.
        Maybe, if you dig a little deeper, there will be more famous participants in the events from our side?
    2. +5
      30 July 2020 11: 54
      On Good Hope, in fact, Cradock died.


      The Germans had excellent training:
      At 19 o'clock the Germans from a distance of 55 cables opened fire, although they had not yet fully completed the formation. The British squadron had exactly 2 cables between the ships, while the German squadron was very stretched. Leipzig was still 5 cables from Gneisenau, and Dresden was seven from Leipzig. And then the British were in for an extremely unpleasant surprise: despite the great distance and the strongest pitching, the firing of both German armored cruisers from the very beginning was simply excellent. The first three-gun salvo of the Scharngorst gave an undershoot of only 2,5 cables and very heap of explosions. Second flight. The third hit directly into the Good Hope, and an explosion flared over the bow turret of the English cruiser, after which the 234-mm tank gun stopped firing and did not resume it during the entire battle. Volleys of the Germans followed one after the other at intervals of only 15 seconds, the English flagship was able to respond only once every 50 seconds.

      Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/odisseya-vicze-admirala-m-shpee.html
      naukatehnika.com
      1. +5
        31 July 2020 00: 41
        I remember from childhood in the "Marine Collection" of the "Modelist-Constructor" magazine there was a great cycle. The Drake series of armored cruisers (including Good Hope) was frankly unsuccessful. But, after the "ringing slap in the face" at Coronel, the British caught the Germans near the Falklands and took harsh revenge - only the light cruiser "Dresden" (sunk on March 14, 1915 off the coast of Chile) and the hospital ship "Seidlitz" were able to escape - the rest of the squadron ships were sunk. The admiral, Maximilian Johannes Maria Hubert von Spee, his two sons and about 2 thousand people from the crew were killed. It is noteworthy that 25 years later, on the roadstead of Montevideo, a "pocket battleship" named after the unlucky naval commander was sunk (as the commander of a raider detachment, he was, however, very lucky until he made a fatal mistake). The "reincarnations" of "Scharnhorst" and "Gneisenau" also faced the sad fate of their predecessors. So don't believe in sea superstitions after that - I really don't like the current Russian trends in the form of SSBNs "Emperor Alexander III", "Emperor Nicholas I" and "Prince Suvorov". The titles could have been omitted. And they saved the memory - and do not ride the rake.

        The death of the light cruiser "Leipzig" in the Falklands battle (1914)
    3. +3
      30 July 2020 14: 23
      Probably, Mr. Cradock in that battle very vaguely understood what the then Germans were.
      1. +5
        30 July 2020 14: 50
        I may be wrong, but there, as far as I remember, Admiral Sturdy played a significant role in what happened, sending ambiguous instructions from the Admiralty to Cradock with reproaches almost of cowardice, which forced Cradock - a brave and ambitious man - to take risky actions. By the way, Sturdy himself later finished off Spee in the battle at the Falklands.
        1. +5
          30 July 2020 14: 54
          Yes, there were many reasons without it.
          Formal equality of power, spirit of "combat instructions", trial of Trubridge
        2. +4
          30 July 2020 16: 27
          Hi Michael! hi
          Agree that it would be very strange if Sturdy, having two newest battlecruisers, didn’t "do away" with the von Spee armored cruisers. Still, ships of completely different classes.
          How many times did the German artillerymen manage to "reach out" to the British, once or twice?

          1. +6
            30 July 2020 16: 43
            one, or two times?

            Twenty two. I'm serious
            1. +3
              30 July 2020 17: 15
              Well, praise to the training of the German gunners. soldier
              1. +5
                31 July 2020 00: 49
                Invincible recorded 22 hits - twelve 210-mm, six 150-mm and four shells of unknown caliber. Two bow compartments and a coal pit at tower “P” were flooded, resulting in a 15 ° roll to port. 11 hits hit the deck, two of them completely turned the wardroom, 4 hit the armored belt, four hit the unprotected side, one hit the turret "A" between the guns, without breaking through the armor, one hit the starboard anchor, one hit the foresail tripod -mast, and one of the shells cut off the barrel of a 102-mm gun. Only one sailor was wounded
                The Inflexible had only three hits, damaging the 102mm guns on the A and X turrets. One sailor was killed and three were wounded [68]. There were no hits in "Carnarvon". None of the Scharnhorst's crew escaped. From the crew of the Gneisenau, a total of 187 people were rescued - 10 officers and 52 sailors were taken aboard the Inflexible, 17 people were raised on the Carnarvon, the rest were rescued by the Invincible.
            2. 0
              31 July 2020 04: 17
              I didn't mean the number of hits, but the ability to make them. Those. when it was possible to get close to the enemy at a shot distance without the risk of being immediately destroyed. In general, the German admiral acted courageously, realizing the hopelessness of his position, turned his armored cruisers towards the enemy in order to give at least some opportunity to leave for his light cruisers. And “Dresden” managed to leave (though not for long).
          2. +4
            30 July 2020 16: 49
            Greetings to the most authoritative representative of the pinniped group. smile
            Actually, I personally don’t see Stardy’s merit in drowning the Germans from the word “at all”. I would credit all the bonuses to Fischer's account, who sent him there with the appropriate forces and instructions for their use.
            Many accused Stirdy of Cradock's death, I somehow recall that there were even talks about personal accounts between them before the war, but with this fight he completely rehabilitated himself and restarted his career, although, in my opinion, this victory can only be credited with with a big stretch ... It seems that in such hothouse conditions, in which his bosses put him, I would have coped. smile
            1. +3
              30 July 2020 17: 32
              I can't resist making a remark: from pinnipeds - a fur seal.
              And the sea cat is a stingray.
              1. +3
                30 July 2020 18: 25
                Our dear Konstantin has repeatedly mentioned in previous comments that in his turbulent youth he loved to plunge into the abyss, including water, and for this it is better to have fins on his feet and do it better in company. Therefore, for someone, perhaps, seals are representatives of the squadron tail, and ours is definitely from the squad of pinnipeds. smile
                1. +4
                  30 July 2020 22: 52
                  Therefore, for someone, perhaps, seals are representatives of the squadron tail, and ours is definitely from the squad of pinnipeds.


                  Only Constantine himself can answer this question!
                  1. +6
                    31 July 2020 01: 04
                    Therefore, for someone, perhaps, seals are representatives of the squadron tail, and ours is definitely from the squad of pinnipeds.

                    Only Constantine himself can answer this question!

                    Having settled in the Ryazan region, our Sea Cat now belongs to the squid squad. fellow


                    Uncle Kostya, I hope I guessed your answer. drinks

                    A fragment from the movie "The Return of the Prodigal Parrot" (1984)
                    1. VIP
                      +1
                      2 August 2020 17: 23
                      "nephew" you are right
    4. 0
      30 July 2020 20: 37
      Thank you, you have enlightened, otherwise I wondered if that Kredok or another. It is now clear that he was not promoted for sea battles, hence the ending.
  10. +5
    30 July 2020 11: 39
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, you have touched on half-forgotten events, and therefore interesting events.
    Unfortunately, everything is built around the events at the mouth of the Peihua, but the uprising itself, you did not tell ANYTHING about the events in the embassy quarter. There remains a feeling of understatement.
    1. 0
      2 August 2020 16: 28
      You can't mix everything together. In a bunch of it to the Elephant-painter ... "Boxers" - one thing, Taku forts - another ...
      1. VIP
        +1
        2 August 2020 17: 27
        I think most will love it
        1. 0
          2 August 2020 17: 38
          I have never focused exclusively on what most people like ...
  11. +8
    30 July 2020 11: 40
    "As a last resort I will go to take the fort alone," said Stankevich and moved forward with the company.

    The gallant lieutenant Sylvester Stankevich will still fight a lot: he will receive a staff captain for Taku, he will become a colonel in the Japanese campaign. The First World War, too, will not miss and will end it as a lieutenant general and corps commander. Dies in March 1919 in Taganrog, being in the ranks of the Volunteer Army.
    1. +3
      30 July 2020 17: 22
      Nikita, hello! hi
      Well, what can you say - a brave and decent person who honestly fulfilled his military duty and remained faithful to the once given oath to the end. Good memory to him. soldier
  12. +2
    30 July 2020 12: 12
    All the same, I expected from the author a more detailed analysis of the cause and effect of the Ihetuan uprising.
    And at the expense of Blagoveshchensk, there was not only shelling with guns, a threat and an attempt to invade a city in which there were no troops, because of which it was necessary to create a militia from the townspeople armed with anything. Plus - a sad incident with the expulsion of Chinese migrant workers to the opposite bank, which led to large casualties among them.
    1. VIP
      +2
      30 July 2020 13: 52
      I read about it at Rem: "Beyond the dark river". In fact, there was a garrison in Blagoveshchensk, but small in number
    2. 0
      30 July 2020 16: 02
      Quote: irontom
      Plus - a sad incident with the expulsion of Chinese migrant workers to the opposite bank, which led to large casualties among them.

      In the waters of the Amur, it was not the Chinese guest workers who perished, but the so-called Zazei Manchus. This is the indigenous population who lived along the river. Zei, who, after signing the Aigun Treaty of 1858, was allowed to remain on our territory while maintaining internal autonomy.
  13. VIP
    +2
    30 July 2020 13: 21
    Vyacheslav did not say what the size of the garrison of the forts was. The united allied landing was frankly not the most numerous, but they captured the forts. It was known for a long time that the defenders have the advantage, but this rule did not work here.
    This happens: a) attacked sleeping or unarmed; b) if the warriors are nonsense, and the Chinese did not sleep and were armed.
  14. VIP
    +5
    30 July 2020 13: 29
    Quote: Ryazanets87
    imperialistic predators tore and plunder China

    Who is the Qing Empire in your classification? Something herbivorous?

    No "white and fluffy"
  15. VIP
    +6
    30 July 2020 13: 35
    Quote: Mikhail Ivanov
    One of the few shameful pages in the history of the Russian army

    Do you know such a thing as: "Military duty"?
  16. +3
    30 July 2020 14: 32
    Quote: VIP
    I just left my people behind. She should be hung for these tricks in one place

    Although you are a "sadist", but she does not deserve another
  17. -5
    30 July 2020 14: 35
    The impudent Saxons, as they were homosexuals, remained so! To paraphrase Senator Cato the Elder: "The insolent Saxon world must be destroyed!"
    1. +5
      30 July 2020 16: 14
      There were only Anglo-Saxons? But what about everyone else, including Japan and Russia? Or is life not sweet to you without Merry Englishmen? laughing
      1. +4
        30 July 2020 16: 45
        And the "Mer" - are those who assimilated with the Chud and the Mere?
        1. +3
          30 July 2020 17: 14
          By all means and nothing else! Have you got a successful mistake? smile
          1. +3
            30 July 2020 17: 46
            Yes. And much that was discussed here only confirms the fifth stratagem: "Rob in time of fire."

            “The vanquished is always wrong - there is no one to justify him” (c).
            1. +3
              30 July 2020 17: 49
              “The vanquished is always wrong - there is no one to justify him” (c).

              Until he becomes the winner! laughing
              1. +3
                30 July 2020 18: 14
                Right. Time passes and the wheel turns.

                But who will find the descendants of the same Mary among the Russians, Mordovians and Mari?
                1. +2
                  30 July 2020 18: 26
                  Is it necessary to do this? To me everything is so united, who is what nation.
                  1. +2
                    30 July 2020 18: 38
                    But it is better to speak and understand when the language is one.
                    The style and traditions are similar.
                    1. +3
                      30 July 2020 19: 06
                      Often, even speaking the same language, people cannot understand each other.
                      "Can you say what you want or ask for what?"
                      1. +3
                        30 July 2020 19: 50
                        The estate is also a border. And if the grievances are sealed with blood
                      2. +3
                        30 July 2020 20: 22
                        Yeah: "We don't need a railway, the old Riga, the new Riga - we will cut everyone out!"
                      3. +2
                        30 July 2020 21: 26
                        "Why is there blood - and gray hair
                        Not so much stained whiskey "(c).
                      4. +2
                        30 July 2020 21: 44
                        "Blood is a great thing, - it is not known why Woland said cheerfully, ..." (C)
                      5. +2
                        30 July 2020 22: 31
                        “As for the real breed, I can feel it for three miles” (c).
                      6. +4
                        30 July 2020 22: 39
                        "In that case, I wonder why you, with such a sensitive nose, cannot recognize a Catholic within four steps." Captain Blood. (from)
                      7. +2
                        30 July 2020 22: 52
                        "If you took out the sword,
                        Enough worries
                        To ask the poor man:
                        Catholic? Huguenot?" (from).
                      8. +2
                        30 July 2020 23: 03
                        "The rifle sent the right bullet, the lead sang and went ..." (C).
                      9. +2
                        30 July 2020 23: 20
                        “Only the bullet of the Cossack in the steppe will catch up,
                        Only a bullet will knock a Cossack off a horse ”(c).
                      10. +2
                        30 July 2020 23: 38
                        "Moscow is sleeping and the month is shining from behind a cloud ..." (c)

                        Happy Cerneus. smile hi
                      11. +3
                        31 July 2020 01: 09
                        "Why chase? The bullet will catch up!" (C) I don't remember from which movie

                        Either "Dauria", or "Quiet Don". what
  18. 0
    30 July 2020 15: 46
    Somewhere with Russian subtitles, but did not find ((
    https://youtu.be/9rMbxmQmo94
  19. +3
    30 July 2020 17: 19
    Vyacheslav, thanks! hi
    I read it in one spirit. Somewhere, sometime before, I read something, but the details of this whole story were unknown. So to speak, a humanitarian mission to save fellow citizens with the support of naval artillery. hi drinks
  20. 0
    30 July 2020 20: 51
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    A significant role in the incident was played by Admiral Sturdy, who sent to Cradock from the Admiralty ambiguous instructions with reproaches almost of cowardice, which forced Cradock - a brave and ambitious man - to take risky actions.

    "According to some reports, he (Cradock) believed that he was going to certain death, obeying stupid orders" (Wilson). But it did not even occur to him to connect with the "Canopus". To courage, more and brains ...
  21. +1
    30 July 2020 21: 00
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Agree that it would be very strange if Sturdy, having two newest battlecruisers, didn’t "do away" with the von Spee armored cruisers. Still, ships of completely different classes.

    There was also Spee's mistake. Approaching the Falklands in the morning and catching the British by surprise, he could well break into the Port Stanley raid. And in close combat, the armor of the British battle cruisers (152mm) would not have protected them, and you would dodge fig torpedoes. At least the damage would be major. And it would have been possible to flood a cruiser or two in the passage, in general it would have been beautiful - a whole fleet, locked in the base until the end of the war, by the devil on Easter cakes! But Spee hoped to slip away if it rained. Did not go...
    1. 0
      31 July 2020 09: 12
      Quote: Kwas
      There was also Spee's mistake. Approaching the Falklands in the morning and catching the British by surprise, he could well break into the Port Stanley raid.

      Under fire from Kent and Canopus? It is unlikely. smile
      1. 0
        31 July 2020 12: 13
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Under fire from Kent and Canopus? It is unlikely.

        Anyway, such an attempt would have been better than what happened. I am not aware of the parameters of the local fairway, but I think something like this: if it is wide, you can maneuver and break through, it is not easy to sink five cruisers quickly (if not split into detachments), but every minute, if it is narrow, you can shut up!
  22. +1
    30 July 2020 21: 05
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    It seems that in such hothouse conditions, in which his superiors put him, I would have coped.

    But if I were behind Spee, I would have sunk a couple of cruisers in the aisle, and your squadron would have remained in Port Stanley until the end of the war! tongue
  23. 0
    30 July 2020 23: 21
    At the same time, the landing party fired at some Japanese guns. Original interpretation ...
  24. -1
    31 July 2020 15: 13
    The Chinese opposed the international gang of capitalist countries. And Russia has nothing to be proud of for participating in this massacre.
    1. +1
      31 July 2020 21: 06
      The Chinese opposed the international gang of capitalist countries. And Russia has nothing to be proud of for participating in this massacre.

      Forest is cut - chips fly ...
      As well as the severed hands of children!
      Do you remember under which chieftain in Ingushetia, together with the families of the landowners, the governesses and the governors were killed?
      Not by chance under Emelyan Pugachev ...
      And they were just simple teachers and nannies!
      So you feel sorry for the Chinese, but no children?
      1. -2
        31 July 2020 22: 36
        Mixed round with green ...
        1. 0
          31 July 2020 23: 05
          And where do you see the mixture?
          Demand from all sides of the conflict! And the demand from the Chinese is not small!
          During popular unrest and uprisings, anyone who does not look like rioters becomes an enemy (skin color, colloquial speech, clothing, religion and many other reasons).
          For example.
          December 1963. Cyprus island.
          The Greek staff at Nicosia Central Hospital cut the throat of two dozen Turkish patients lying in it. As one of the journalists wrote, “as if in the Middle Ages each village was arming itself against another, fearing an attack”.

          People with education just killed their own patients!
          What were they afraid of?
          And how could the children of Europeans harm the "boxer rebellion"?
          Nothing. It's just that they are not Chinese ... And no one was going to create prisoner camps.
          And the prisoners were not going to take.
          East is a delicate matter.
          1. -2
            31 July 2020 23: 30
            Oh, these rhetorical tricks for me wink
            All according to the manual you have.
            1. 0
              1 August 2020 22: 34
              All according to the manual you have.

              According to the training manual? Which one? Do you have a similar one? Share?
              For the first time on VO I was suspected of writing comments on a certain "manual".
              It's funny
  25. +1
    2 August 2020 08: 33
    Quote: Bar1
    what reason was the same Austrians, Japanese, French, Italians, Belgians, Dutch, Spaniards (somehow the author forgot about them), Americans who did not even have colonies in China to get involved in Chinese affairs? If your ambassadors, as a result of a lower uprising, like historians write destroyed, then because of this they do not start a war, and the devil only knows where from Europe. Austrians and Italians, that there was little to do in Europe? The French, who lost the Franco-Prussian war, generally hated the Prussians and the Germans, but then they must have stood up in one coalition and drove distant China to fight together? This is a very strange war. For whom should they fight, for the English benefits of selling poison to the Aboriginal - opium?
    In short, the political underpinnings of the fact that the entire civilized world suddenly took up arms against one underdeveloped state in terms of OI is not clear, it turns out that China was not so underdeveloped ... According to the official history. Chinese Tartary - the last shard of Great Tartary and the conquerors of Tartary.
    This was the last war of Tartary.


    Not the fact that the latter. China is not over yet and history is not over yet ...
  26. 0
    3 August 2020 17: 20
    In general, I am amazed at Russian military historians ... FIVE YEARS have not passed since the Russian fleet suffered a crushing and colossal defeat from the same Japanese. It is absolutely certain that the Loch Tsar Nicholas II was forced by the impudent Saxons to go ahead of the steam locomotive, and then they were simply torn to pieces ... And the local historians just climb out of their stupid skin into the folding, as if not knowing about the defeat 1905, 1914, 1917, 1918 yy, when ANTANTA attacked Russia in the same way! SO THAT IS WHERE THE notion "FIST" COMES FROM in Russia at that time - from old memory, from China !!! They were UNBOXED, so they are happy !!!

  27. 0
    8 August 2020 08: 40
    Brotherhood-in-arms based on third-party robbery is the most unreliable foundation for friendship. The Russian-Japanese "brotherhood" ended in 1904, all the other "brothers" fell in love with each other in 1914.
  28. 0
    28 August 2020 00: 04
    This is a real Asian thing: to kill engineers whom the Chinese themselves invited.