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Russia's neutrality came as a surprise to Armenians and Azerbaijanis

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Russia's neutrality came as a surprise to Armenians and Azerbaijanis

Well, the situation that I wrote about in material immediately after the start of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, moves along the rails already familiar to everyone. It is unclear whose provocation, then the aggravation of the military component and mutual threats up to the use of missiles at the enemy's infrastructure and the transfer of the conflict to a sluggish phase.


Will we shoot until the Russians offer their services for reconciliation?


It is already clear today that politicians on both sides are waiting. If we discard all the husk about contacts with some countries, about military assistance from some side, about the influence of foreign NGOs on the governments of both countries, then it immediately becomes clear that the only objective referee in this conflict can only be Russia. Someone else does not want to participate in resolving this issue.

By the way, even those events on the confrontation line that occur daily and are reported by both sides are an attempt to play on the nerves of the Russians, an attempt to shift the blame for the next killed and wounded on Russia. A kind of cleverly twisted scenario, when both Yerevan and Baku declare their readiness for reconciliation, and Russia, the only possible mediator, which both countries believe, is silent and does not make any attempts to reconcile the fighting.

The tactics are understandable and not even hidden by the governments of both countries. Wait, then to have a stronger position in the upcoming negotiations. We had to win and would have won, and therefore our conditions are more priority than those put forward by the enemy. At the same time, for internal use, the leadership of both countries talks about hundreds and thousands of patriots who are ready to go to war right now.

To be honest, I dislike the position of both countries. Both Yerevan and Baku are well aware of hundreds of thousands of citizens of their countries and ethnic Armenians and Azerbaijanis living in other countries around the world. Due to some peculiarities, Armenians and Azerbaijanis are forced to conduct their business in other countries.

How can one imagine the market of any European country without traders from Azerbaijan? Well, they know how to trade better than others. And they love to do it. How to imagine the construction market without Armenians? Those very teams that work from dawn to dusk at construction sites? Those who lay asphalt on our roads in any heat. They also know how and love to do this.

Then what are the leaders of both countries thinking about? They do not think that the conflict between diasporas in other countries exists anyway. The hatred of the representatives of the two peoples, reinforced by the blood of their murdered relatives, has not yet spilled over into an open massacre, but this is still. For now, law enforcement officers in these countries can control the mood in the diasporas and stop conflicts in time.

By the way, I would also pay attention to the statements of high-ranking officials and politicians of both countries. I am about the readiness to use missile weapons in the event of an escalation of hostilities. Somehow, most of our experts missed this statement. Meanwhile, both states have facilities on their territory, the destruction of which would mean the destruction of the country. At least economically.

Let me remind you about the promises of the Armenian Defense Ministry to attack the Mingechevir reservoir and the return promise of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry to attack the nuclear power plant in Armenia. Of course, they will object to me that this is an element of an information war, but in fact no one will dare to take such measures. Maybe so. But my upbringing is not like that, I'm used to trusting my eyes and drawing my own conclusions. A cat, cornered, turns into a tiger and will fight to the end. Until victory or death ...

What Russia is doing to extinguish the fire


Today there are a lot of people who “do not see” Russia's efforts to localize and end the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict. There are no harsh shouts, no threats, no sanctions ... In short, there is not all that tinsel that politicians like to raise when solving even trivial issues.

Meanwhile, even Western experts note the tremendous work of the Russian Foreign Ministry in both capitals. Diplomats in Yerevan and Baku do not stop working for a minute. The results are not yet visible for one simple reason. If earlier, before the Pashinyan government came to power, Armenia occupied a conditionally pro-Russian position, was an active member of the CSTO, now Yerevan is more an enemy of Russia than a friend. And anti-Russian performances there are commonplace. And Armenia has not participated in the work of the CSTO for two years already.

Thus, Russian diplomats, I think, convey to both governments the position of our country. We are neutral. We respect both peoples, but we will not take the side of one of them. Which makes the Armenians angry enough. The media remind us every day of the Russian military base in Armenia, of membership in the CSTO, of "traditional friendship", immediately forgetting about the anti-Russian rhetoric of recent days.

It is just as difficult to explain our neutrality in Baku. The fact that Azerbaijan is actively cooperating with Turkey is quite understandable. How explainable is our cooperation with Belarus, for example. But this cooperation does not in the least prevent Baku from conducting political, economic, cultural and other dialogues with Moscow. This does not prevent Azerbaijan from purchasing our weapons. We have concluded many mutually beneficial contracts.

In general, in diplomatic terms, an active search is under way for solutions acceptable to both sides, the development of options for these decisions and the preparation of an appropriate meeting of leaders of states.

Kind word and a gun


Today, panicky cries of "philanthropists" are heard from all sides that a war may break out that will set fire to the entire Caucasus. The thesis, I must say, is quite contrived and controversial. But we will proceed from the fact that the military exists for that, in order to foresee even such unlikely cases and to take measures to prevent it.

We have already written about the reaction of the US and NATO to the Russian strategic command and staff exercises "Caucasus-2020". The overwhelming majority of our readers understand that such exercises are never carried out from scratch. It is only in movies that units and units act as a single mechanism without appropriate training. In life, however, the coherence of the actions of a subunit, not to mention units, formations and formations, is the result of the enormous work of commanders of all levels, engineering and technical personnel, specialists of many military professions.

Simply put, in order for a regiment to complete a combat mission, it is necessary that every screw of this complex mechanism works for this mission. For this, exercises are conducted before regimental exercises in platoons, companies, battalions. Combat coordination of units is being carried out. So that each soldier and officer clearly understands the algorithm of their actions when executing orders.

To understand the enormity of the task set for the exercise, it is enough to list at least part of the forces and means that will be involved. So, 149 military personnel, 755 pieces of equipment and weapons, 26 aircraft, 820 ships and auxiliary vessels are involved. The geographic coverage is impressive too. Southern and Western military districts, marines of the Northern and Pacific fleets, airborne forces, units and formations of central subordination.

And all this power will conduct tactical exercises as preparation for strategic ones. 56 such exercises are planned at 35 training grounds and 17 marine training grounds in the waters of the Black and Caspian seas. As a final check before the start of the Kavkaz-2020 strategic exercises, the Ministry of Defense is conducting a surprise check of the troops.

I deliberately did not write about the teachings more specifically and in depth. Moreover, the material is about something else. It is clear that a lot of work has been done in the units and formations in the course of training. Military equipment and weapons are in excellent condition. Logistic services, medical support, communications and everything else have been prepared.

This is the very "pistol" next to the "kind word", which in case of misunderstanding of any of the parties to the conflict, Russia can use as an instrument of pacification.

I argued then and I repeat today: war is not needed by any people or even the state. Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan want to fight. Moreover, judging by the statements of various politicians in these countries, there is not even an understanding of why this conflict arose. In my opinion, this is just an opportunity to let off steam, which has accumulated quite a lot due to economic problems, due to quarantine and restrictions associated with the disease.

The conflict must be ended. Never worth getting weapon when there is an opportunity to talk. Weapons are taken out only when a fight is imminent. It was a fight, and not a catwalk runway with casualties and comments from showmen from politics.
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  1. passerby
    passerby 26 July 2020 04: 41 New
    93
    If they want to fight, let them fight. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis stand against each other. Suffice it to recall the glorification of Garegin Nzhdeh in Armenia, who called on Armenians to fight against the USSR during the Great Patriotic War. Let the Nazis help Armenia now.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 26 July 2020 05: 12 New
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      Quote: bystander
      If they want to fight, let them fight.

      Yes, push their heads together and then what is left to reconcile.
      Khachiki do not understand words
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 26 July 2020 08: 42 New
        56
        Support.

        Russia should think first of all about its citizens and its interests.

        In addition, I believe that the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh is insoluble. Armenians with Azerbaijanis here are like Jews with Palestinians ... Nobody will yield.

        If there is a war, then Russia should keep aloof.

        And, I will repeat my position. We must withdraw our troops from Armenia. They have nothing to do there.
        1. chenia
          chenia 26 July 2020 09: 05 New
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          Quote: Ilya-spb
          We must withdraw our troops from Armenia.


          Were withdrawn. Moscow (Central) VO border.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 26 July 2020 09: 15 New
            46
            Russia's neutrality came as a surprise to Armenians and Azerbaijanis

            And why, all of a sudden, Russia should participate in these showdowns and take sides?
            They want to fight, so let them fight. You don't even need to dissuade. They will take Karabakh away from the Sochi people, well, that's what they need. Further, Azerbaijani ambitions did not spread. They are not suicides to touch the Russian base and deal with the CSTO military bloc! If the Armenians get pissed on the nose, they will ask on their knees not to remove the Russian base. For only she, in fact, is the guarantor of the preservation of the Armenian statehood.
            1. chenia
              chenia 26 July 2020 09: 34 New
              -11
              Quote: Stas157
              Should Russia participate in these showdowns and take sides?


              We'll have to take part, this is the fate of Russia. And to accept, which side is another question.
              That. that these showdowns got it is clear. And what to do? And just standing on the sidelines will not work.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 26 July 2020 09: 45 New
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                Quote: chenia
                And just standing on the sidelines will not work.

                There are graters for Karabakh. For what kind of gingerbread Russia should defend someone else's disputed territory? Let the Armenians be grateful for the fact that they have a Russian base. And it is the guarantor of the preservation of the peaceful situation in Armenia itself. But until the outside they are well patted, they will not appreciate it.
                1. bulava
                  bulava 26 July 2020 23: 09 New
                  +3
                  You think like a schoolboy. For what gingerbread. Yes, for those that Azerbaijan does not really need this Karabakh. There is no oil there. There are mountains, the climate is not so hot. Karabakh is a very good topic for the constant aggravation of the situation in the Caucasus. And Baku is not behind this. But even if, as you suggest, we allow Baku to "return" 100% Armenian-populated Karabakh, then not only will it not end, but turn into a full-scale conflict, with refugees, thousands of victims of the peaceful and the intervention of Turkey (read, NATO). And this will be a situation from which there will be no way out in the style of "keeping neutrality." And a little "Syria" is right next to us, oh, how some gentlemen with snow-white smiles need it.
                  1. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 27 July 2020 06: 42 New
                    +2
                    Quote: bulava
                    You think like a schoolboy. For what gingerbread. Yes, for those that Azerbaijan does not really need this Karabakh. There is no oil there. There are mountains, the climate is not so hot. Karabakh is a very good topic for the constant aggravation of the situation in the Caucasus. And Baku is not behind this. But even if, as you suggest, we allow Baku to "return" 100% Armenian-populated Karabakh, then not only will it not end, but turn into a full-scale conflict, with refugees, thousands of victims of the peaceful and the intervention of Turkey (read, NATO). And this will be a situation from which there will be no way out in the style of "keeping neutrality." And a little "Syria" is right next to us, oh, how some gentlemen with snow-white smiles need it.

                    Azerbaijan may not need Karabakh, but the occupied regions of Azerbaijan itself are quite
                    1. bulava
                      bulava 27 July 2020 10: 00 New
                      -2
                      Which ones? You will study history. You will be very surprised to learn that most of today's Azerbaijan was predominantly Armenian, and Nakhichevan and Turkish Van were generally the cradle of the Armenian people.
                      1. uranium
                        uranium 27 July 2020 15: 42 New
                        +4
                        History was studied on the globe of Armenia ?? wassat Well then, give the Stavropol Territory and Krasnodar to the Armenians hi
                      2. KURT330
                        KURT330 28 July 2020 09: 53 New
                        +4
                        Yes, he is an Armenian, they pinched them hard, so they stir up trouble everywhere. He himself does not understand what he writes, just to blurt out.
                      3. bulava
                        bulava 28 July 2020 10: 20 New
                        -3
                        It seems that you, representatives of glorious Azerbaijan, the Soviet government gave a good education. But why are most of you here using primary school level reasoning? Yes, he is Armenians, yes, he has a nose, ahahaha. You better answer what are you going to do with Karabakh, if it (hypothetically) becomes yours? And what will it give you personally? Hand over your Russian passport and go as a volunteer to restore Agdam?)
                      4. KURT330
                        KURT330 28 July 2020 11: 46 New
                        0
                        Nobody stuttered about the nose. Do not slander yourself. I have my own passport, not Russian, unlike you. In any case, Karabakh will return to Azerbaijan, regardless of whether you want it or not. And what we are going to do with our territory, so we know better. Everyone who previously lived there, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, will live there. And for Aghdam and Khojaly, there will be a separate conversation with you!
                      5. bulava
                        bulava 28 July 2020 12: 01 New
                        -2
                        Then you will have to prepare compensation for those who were forced to leave Baku and Sumgait after the pogroms. Both Russians and Armenians. And yes, with Russia, sooner or later, you will have a separate conversation about Basayev, Dudayev and the sanatoriums for militants.
                      6. KURT330
                        KURT330 28 July 2020 18: 15 New
                        +1
                        Purely Armenian dreams laughing A purely Armenian version of arra, beg and incite. Then they tried to beg from Turkey, now from Azerbaijan)) It's time for you, the Armenians, to cook something, soon we will come for ours. Don't drag Russians here, because they live better in Azerbaijan than in Russia. Although there are quite a few of your Armenian relatives here, according to official statistics, there are 40 thousand of them. I repeat, do not interfere when your uncles are talking. Basayev and Dudayev remembered laughing You go to Chechnya and tell the first cafe you meet that these two are bad. wink Unlike vassals, which you are, we build our own policy. Unhook yourself from the Russian hem and speak for yourself. So we have something to ask and ask for!
                      7. uranium
                        uranium 29 July 2020 10: 00 New
                        0
                        Sumgait was preceded by the expulsion of 200 thousand Azerbaijanis from western Azerbaijan, the present territory of Armenia. Are you ready to pay for compensation to refugees and internally displaced persons who were expelled from their native lands? and there are a lot of them about a million)
                      8. bulava
                        bulava 29 July 2020 10: 07 New
                        -2
                        You see, the conflict is unsolvable in the current situation. Each side will always have complaints and grievances. This situation plays into the hands of NATO, the United States and their lackeys, such as Turkey. It is their style to support regional hotbeds of conflict. Only Russia can help you. Remember how our Emperor saved you from the Persians and Turks, how the Bolsheviks did the same. Do you think Turkey needs you? For them, you are potential Turks and they do not see your identity point-blank. And for us you are dear Azerbaijanis! As history has shown, everyone is always comfortable with Russia. As soon as everyone left for free swimming, conflicts, civil strife, poverty, collapse, immigration (to the same Russia) began. In general, you throw this Turkey and NATO with them.
            2. bulava
              bulava 28 July 2020 10: 23 New
              -4
              We, unlike you, do not give anything to anyone so easily. And in recent years, and at all - we take back what is ours, that people like you squandered in the 1990s.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 27 July 2020 20: 43 New
            +4
            Quote: bulava
            and Nakhichevan and Turkish Van were generally the cradle of the Armenian people.

            We are now not talking about what happened during the reign of Tsar Pea, but about the last recognition of borders as a result of the collapse of the USSR
  2. Stas157
    Stas157 26 July 2020 10: 27 New
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    Quote: chenia
    We'll have to take part this is the fate of Russia.

    In order to remove the last remorse about the fact that Russia, they say, owes something to someone there, you need to ask a question. And Armenia, waiting for support from Russia itself, supported Russia in the necessary cases, which were more than enough? South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Donbass ... maybe Crimea was recognized? Armenia brings nothing but problems and requests (loans, cheap energy resources) to Russia. This is all you need to know about this Armenia.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 26 July 2020 12: 01 New
      13
      In all fairness: Belarus or the same Kazakhstan also did not recognize Crimea
    2. chenia
      chenia 26 July 2020 13: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Stas157
      This is all you need to know about this Armenia.


      I agree. But Russia also has its own skeletons (Honecker, Najibullah, Ocalan).
      And Cuba? But the intervention is on the distant approaches (Caribbean crisis). removed the threat directly at the borders (striped missiles were removed from Turkey).

      Another thing is that everything is done clumsily
    3. bulava
      bulava 27 July 2020 10: 01 New
      -3
      You are a naive person. All these formal "recognitions" have long ceased to play any role, since the world is not unipolar. This is an empty formality that does not interest us at all.
  3. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 26 July 2020 12: 29 New
    -7
    so go ahead, a duffel bag, a military registration and enlistment office and a contract for a base in armenia ...
    1. chenia
      chenia 26 July 2020 13: 22 New
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      Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
      couch windbag


      Freak. (M) I am a professional military man in the past (65 years old), you can get it by nickname (if you have brains). And this. such a profession - where the Motherland will send. you pick it up with the word "is." But liberoids and did not interfere ... until the border MVO.
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 30 July 2020 04: 43 New
        +1
        oh yes, everyone here is professionals ... stop composing fairy tales and lying ... military man, yeah ... fabulous, hung with medals))) here in the comments there are even marshals and generals who make 10 mistakes in one sentence ... only lie a lot like you, military man with the letter p
  4. BecmepH
    BecmepH 26 July 2020 16: 14 New
    14
    Quote: chenia
    We'll have to take part, this is the fate of Russia. And to accept, which side is another question.
    That. that these showdowns got it is clear. And what to do? And just standing on the sidelines will not work.

    A long time ago, my wife and my sister fought among themselves (the reason was my persona). When I tried to reconcile the parties, they unanimously expressed their idea, they say, first we will figure it out, and then we will continue the showdown.
    It’s me that if we turn our heads, then we will remain guilty, anyway ...
    1. chenia
      chenia 26 July 2020 17: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: BecmepH
      then we will remain guilty, anyway ...


      You are undoubtedly right. But ..... in your example, do you manage to be indifferent?
      That's it.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 26 July 2020 17: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: chenia
        You are undoubtedly right. But ..... in your example, do you manage to be indifferent?

        What was to be done? Do you think it's easy to choose between family members? You tried?
    2. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 58 New
      -2
      Guilty before whom? What or who are you afraid of? What sanctions will be introduced? Yes, even if it is injected. It will only benefit us in the end. They are the interests of Russia above all else. And what was acquired and developed with such difficulty after the collapse of the USSR must be protected and protected. I think that the GDP is capable of solving the conflict. Another thing is how serious our "Western partners" are and what kind of "creative ideas" they have this time.
  5. SanSanych Gusev
    SanSanych Gusev 26 July 2020 17: 09 New
    -1
    Yes, let them fight
  6. awdrgy
    awdrgy 26 July 2020 20: 49 New
    -1
    Yes it will. And then what do you think should be sent there soldiers? Russian soldiers ??? Or give money? Money of Russian taxpayers? Or weapons? - count the same money and resources (Such an American style, but quite specific)
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 26 July 2020 09: 36 New
    10
    And why suddenly, Russia should participate in these showdowns

    It should not, in general, in fact, neutrality is a form of support for Azerbaijan, it is banally stronger. "Peace, friendship, chewing gum" with Armenia, membership in the CSTO, a military base and other consequences of the balance of forces. True, the heifer is very cunning, trying to ours and yours (in the sense of NATO), especially against the background of recent events.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 26 July 2020 09: 50 New
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      Quote: strannik1985
      Should not, in general, in fact, neutrality is a form of support for Azerbaijan

      The way it is. Good relations and friendship with rich and large Azerbaijan are no less important for Russia than relations with small and ungrateful Armenia. And for Armenians it will be a good lesson in how to turn away from Russia.
      1. Yurij Alekseev
        Yurij Alekseev 26 July 2020 11: 44 New
        0
        If the Azerbaijanis opened the border, then more than half of the Armenians would move to them. And so, only with the permission of the Foreign Ministry, but many are moving there anyway. It's more satisfying there.
        1. bulava
          bulava 26 July 2020 23: 36 New
          -2
          Hmm, Yuri, did you come up with it yourself or read it on the Kiev fence?
          1. Farid Alekperov
            Farid Alekperov 28 July 2020 10: 12 New
            +2
            Armenians have been whining about genocide for so many years, but this does not prevent them from going to Turkey to earn money. There is even an Armenian quarter in Istanbul.
            1. bulava
              bulava 28 July 2020 10: 16 New
              -2
              So, what is next? Russians are also leaving for Germany.
              Why are you making any insignificant arguments with the transition to personalities?
              You better tell us what are you going to do with Karabakh, if, hypothetically, it becomes yours?
            2. Farid Alekperov
              Farid Alekperov 28 July 2020 10: 24 New
              +2
              I mean that supposedly adherence to principles will not allow Armenians to earn money in Azerbaijan. Karabakh cannot live without Azerbaijan. The Bolsheviks, guided by economic expediency, understood this and therefore left this region as part of Azerbaijan. As a result, in the USSR, the Armenian population of Karabakh in terms of living standards was much richer than the population of the rest of Azerbaijan, not to mention the RSFSR. From the point of view of transport routes, economic and geographical expediency, Karabakh is inextricably linked with Azerbaijan. In principle, it is extremely difficult for Armenia itself to develop without Azerbaijan. If not for the Armenian nationalism, actively fueled by the Dashnaks and the diaspora, the Armenians would be the richest people in the Transcaucasus right now.
            3. bulava
              bulava 28 July 2020 10: 36 New
              -3
              Well, you didn't answer the question. What will you do with Karabakh? Just imagine that you received it. Infrastructure destroyed after the fighting, settlements, several hundred thousand peaceful Armenian population ... What is your plan in this case?
            4. Farid Alekperov
              Farid Alekperov 28 July 2020 11: 08 New
              +2
              It is clear that everything destroyed will be restored. Nagorno-Karabakh will receive the status of a self-governing autonomy within Azerbaijan. As an example, the Vatican can be shown, which seems to be on the territory of Italy, but nevertheless is almost completely autonomous. The Armenian population can live under the protection of international peacekeepers. Azerbaijani refugees will return home. By the way, if the Armenians really wanted peace, then as a gesture of goodwill they could return part of the territories where they still do not live. Vaughn Aghdam was taken apart brick by brick almost to the ground. Thus, Armenia would show itself to the international community from a more advantageous side and would receive a certain advantage in the negotiations.
            5. bulava
              bulava 28 July 2020 11: 34 New
              -2
              Well, then it is logical to return the property (or compensation) to the Armenians and Russians who were forced to leave Sumgait and Baku after the pogroms. It would be fair. Don't you think?
            6. Farid Alekperov
              Farid Alekperov 28 July 2020 14: 10 New
              +2
              you do not mix Russians with Armenians. Nobody smashed the Russians, that's it. And secondly, if we talk about compensation, they are completely covered by the vandalism of Armenians in the occupied territories, the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Azerbaijanis and the use of natural resources, the flesh before the development of a gold deposit in occupied Kelbajar.
            7. bulava
              bulava 28 July 2020 15: 18 New
              -3
              Alas, there are living witnesses and victims. But Russian people are patient, kind and not vindictive. We do not persecute anyone, our country is open to everyone. Go to the mosque, speak your language, the same goes for Armenians. We all live in peace. And we absolutely do not need a war in the Caucasus.
  • bulava
    bulava 26 July 2020 23: 37 New
    0
    And why do we need rich and large Azerbaijan if it decided to go under the wing of NATO?
  • Makarov1951
    Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 40 New
    -3
    True, you are a helluva lot of stupid sent Cossack. Learn history, although I will remind you how the Russians were kicked in the ass from the Gabala radar station, or how Azerbaijan is working under the strict dictation of Turkey. Although where does the analytical mindset come from
  • bulava
    bulava 26 July 2020 22: 31 New
    -3
    Hello, we've arrived. We are fighting in Syria, although we do not even have a common border. And here is just a powder keg, which we barely extinguished after the impotent actions of a drunken dancer. You need to keep your footholds with your teeth.
  • Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 26 July 2020 09: 39 New
    +4
    And what follows from this? Let me remind you of history. For a long time Smolensk was a border fortress. And Petersburg is a border capital. This practically did not affect the development of the state, its growth.

    It is more profitable to strategically gain a foothold on the rivers and passes of the Caucasus, with bases in friendly Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    1. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 54 New
      -5
      You will still remember the time of Svyatoslav Yasno Solnyshko. Times have changed a long time ago. The United States and NATO have bases wherever they can reach. Where do you come from such "base returners" and "troop withdrawals"?
  • boni592807
    boni592807 26 July 2020 18: 57 New
    0
    Look where the border of Russia is and where the conflict is! fellow
    What kind of "knot" is being tied (Turkey, Iran, the Russian Federation and nearby territories under the beneficiaries of the United States (Georgia.). Draw in and bleed. recourse
    And the representatives of the parties, in Russia, are far from being polite. Let's remember 2019 Putilkovo Moscow region. or apricots in one of the Moscow markets in 2020 angry For such a department in Western democracies would have received.
    There is also something to remember about pro-Western politics ... repeat
    Look at the borders of Russia along the perimeter, that our entire border is locked, as in the USSR. That the ERA OF MERCY has come? All partners around the perimeter of the DUSHKA and inside Russia, do we have peace and quiet? It is strange, in the World there is a feeling of major showdowns and a tough struggle for leadership ... am Partners openly broadcast about this and do ...
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 26 July 2020 23: 26 New
      +2
      If you look at the current "escalation" of the conflict and the "neutrality of Russia" .... Then, for example, "in the west" they noticed one thing - Turkey practically stopped consuming Russian gas from the "Turkish stream", and switched to Azerbaijani gas, moreover , Turkey facilitates the pumping of Azerbaijani-Turkmen gas through TANAR, which is ATTENTION! passes just a few kilometers from the line of contact between the Karabakh and Azerbaijani forces. That is, naturally at arm's length. Coincidence, right? wink
  • Alekcandr Sokolenko
    Alekcandr Sokolenko 27 July 2020 11: 10 New
    0
    Exactly: only the blind did not see how Moscow surrendered Ukraine and brought NATO to the Kharkiv-Belgorod line, but make-up with "Crimea" is more expensive and more fun.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 26 July 2020 09: 57 New
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    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Russia should think first of all about its citizens and its interests.

    I agree with you, colleague, because after returning in the 90th from the reconciliation of the Ingush with the Ossetians in Vladik, I concluded, maybe cynical, but cheap and practical: to surround the Caucasus with a 5-meter fence, drive a dozen trains with weapons and close the gate tightly, and who will climb - the one by the legs and back. And after three or four years, open the gates and shout: Hey, Georgians! Hey, Armenians! And in response, only an echo from Kazbek and Elbrus. They would cut themselves out, and whoever remained on their knees would crawl and kiss their left shoe, as in 1787 the Georgians to Catherine the Great and tearfully asked to be admitted to Russia.
    1. Makarov1951
      Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 29 New
      -6
      Sir, you are clinical. Georgians do not even think of crawling on their knees even in your wet dreams, and soon there will be NATO troops there. The Azerbaijanis kicked the Russians out of the Gabala radar station with a kick in the ass. And only Armenia cherishes and cares for the Russians. Let's remove the base, the Turks will devour them, but to hell with you. Now is not 1915 and no one will allow to destroy the first Christian state. And the United States dreams of having its own Marine base there.
      1. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 28 July 2020 07: 32 New
        +4
        The Azerbaijanis kicked the Russians out of the Gabala radar station with a kick in the ass.

        Well, a kick is not a kick ... - But it's amazing how it coincided with the commissioning of the Voronezh radar station ... and even with Kazakhstan
        the radar agreement is denounced ...- also a kick in the ass ???
        Let's remove the base, the Turks will eat them, but to hell with you.

        ... and they also interfere in Syriyakhliviyah, treat militants and stab them in the back !!! ... And they also called them an earthworm !!!
        And only Armenia cherishes and cares for Russians

        ... And only Armenia COULD overlap with all its neighbors !!!
        In this situation, not only to cherish and groom anyone
        have to, and lick anyone and anything?
        ... Now is not 1915 and no one will allow to destroy the first Christian state

        That's right !!! ..- I mean, not 1915! The division of empires is not foreseen, and therefore sweet promises from the powerful of this world to expect - not to respect yourself! ... and therefore trade in Armenian virginity is a futile occupation ...
        Yes, and the United States dreams of having its own
        marine base

        It is in such Great Marine Power how is Armenia?
        And the American embassy is not a base? ...- and the marines are already there in fact, and in terms of the number of personnel, it will soon compete with the Russian base.
  • Russian Central Asian
    Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    when a dispute cannot be resolved by any reasonable means, there is only one thing to do - to destroy the subject of the dispute itself.
  • Makarov1951
    Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 20 New
    -1
    You also need to withdraw troops from everywhere and stay within the borders of the Moscow region. Thanks to fools like you, NATO troops will stand in Ukraine and Georgia. And the flight time of enemy missiles will be so small that ICBMs will not even fly out of the mine. Sir, you or a sent Cossack.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 26 July 2020 09: 49 New
    -10
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Khachiki do not understand words

    As a child, did your mother tell you that nationalism is bad? Why are you insulting an entire nation? I often came across both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, people, like people, like any other nation, "two dozen vile, two noble and six unknown." I don't remember who said that already. By the way, your comment violates the rules of the site.
    1. major147
      major147 26 July 2020 10: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Why are you insulting a whole nation?

      I think here it is not about people, but about the politics of states.
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 26 July 2020 12: 05 New
      22
      Strangely different - they wave nationalism only in the face of the Russian people, urging him to be tolerant, but the ethnic minorities themselves cultivate this nationalism and hold it as their main ideology, with its eternal justification, they say, it is the sources of national identity and the way of these peoples, in which Russians for some reason otkazango is irrevocable and final. By the way, have you noticed that you have now become very much engaged in archeology in Siberia, the Urals and the Far East? It seems to be a harmless and useful occupation, but if you look closely at the results of these "archaeological studies", you get an interesting picture - "national" institutions, groups and expeditions are conducting research that "find" confirmation of national theories of protocivilizations, "very high development", "high stages of development "of these very national groups who are looking for something there. You say this is not the origins of nationalism, veiled under scientific research? The well-known "Sumerians" who dug the Black Sea started from this and began with the search for "sources" and "roots", and ended with the Volyn massacre and the "Donbass".
      1. Living7111972
        Living7111972 27 July 2020 11: 43 New
        +2
        National institutions act as Russian branches. But something was not officially recognized for national proto-civilizations. I have not even heard such a term. I am just periodically interested in Arkaim and other settlements in the Urals.
        I have the blood of a Bashkir, a Tatar and a Crimean Tatar, I don't even know who to root for ...
        The steppe is wide, there is enough room for everyone. And my old friend Tatar says: - Adam sits in each ...
    3. Dym71
      Dym71 29 July 2020 09: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Why are you insulting a whole nation?

      When they call us Ivans, do you think that this is an insult? belay
  • valton
    valton 26 July 2020 19: 48 New
    0
    And not free!
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 26 July 2020 20: 00 New
    +6
    The most practical way would be to invite ten of the richest and most influential representatives of the Armenian and Azerbaijani diaspora to the carpet. And to give them a speech - "Here, on the territory of Russia, you received your wealth, influence and success! And here your fellow tribesmen begin to ram each other like at home! And spoil the mood of the indigenous population. But here you are not here and the Russians do not need interethnic fights on the streets with snot, blood and a desire to find out whose Karabakh is! And even less tension is needed on the borders of Russia! Therefore, you should go to to your home, to persuade, to squeeze, and at least to fuck your leadership, but to make sure that there is peace and quiet on the borders of Russia! It seems that this will be the most effective way when the rulers of both republics will be pressured not by the Russian Foreign Ministry, but by "authoritative people" from compatriots who do not want to lose their "acquired by back-breaking labor" and are able to make the intractable leader a full-fledged "goat face"!
    1. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 31 New
      0
      Not a bad offer, but in order for these worthy people to get this idea better, as well as for their greater motivation, you can also cut off their ear, or a finger, or gouge out an eye. Believe me, it works great))))
    2. Makarov1951
      Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 50 New
      -3
      That is, you are for mopping-ups on a national basis, and having Russian citizenship will not save people from concentration camps, deportations. And what else did you suggest there. You have already written thoughts on several articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation))) where do you come from
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 26 July 2020 05: 50 New
    26
    The current conflict has a name - Nikol Vovaevich Pashinyan.
    1. VIP
      VIP 26 July 2020 07: 27 New
      +3
      Pashinyan needs to be shown that he is a cool "macho"?
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 26 July 2020 08: 33 New
        15
        It is unlikely that he needs. Rather, I received an order to make a mess. The mattress footman does not understand how all this can turn out.
        1. Russian Central Asian
          Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 35 New
          0
          If someone does not understand something, this does not mean that he is definitely a stupid person, it is just that they simply explained to him badly.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 26 July 2020 08: 44 New
        +8
        Not only Pashinyan needs a war. Young Aliyev also needs it.

        Now there is a crisis. Coronavirus. Oil prices fell. Armenian fruits-vegetables too.

        War is one of the first temporary solutions to deep internal problems.
        But the long-term consequences of such a remedy are dire.
        1. bulava
          bulava 26 July 2020 22: 47 New
          -1
          Think narrowly. The second has all the oil, all the money, all the relatives are attached, the assets are over the hill. He just needs to distract people from problems. Yes. But our "partners" are clearly behind all this. There are many options to consider here. From just another attempt to deprive us of an outpost in the former republic of the USSR to a complex multi-walker in order to knock us out of Syria so that Turkey and its protégé can gain a foothold there and tear the state apart.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 July 2020 07: 18 New
    13
    Quote: bystander
    If they want to fight, let them fight. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis stand against each other.

    They jump, jump like roosters and scatter. Not the first or the last time.
    1. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 36 New
      0
      a good owner and cocks do not fight among themselves
  • prior
    prior 26 July 2020 09: 53 New
    19
    "If they want to fight, let them fight."

    Let the Armenians fight to the last Armenian, and the Azerbaijanis to the last Azerbaijani. When there are no others left, the territories of Armenia and Azerbaijan will be annexed to Russia as autonomous regions through a referendum among the survivors.
    And before that, to sell weapons to the first and second, if they cannot live in peace with their neighbors.
    This is usually democratic neutrality.
    1. Makarov1951
      Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 52 New
      -3
      You sir, very stupid place of Armenia and Azerbaijan will be immediately taken by Turkey. Are you propagating by budding !!?!
  • iouris
    iouris 26 July 2020 12: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: bystander
    If they want to fight, let them fight.

    A representative of a great power must say differently: no cannon should fire without our permission. Especially now, especially in this area.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 26 July 2020 16: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: iouris
      A representative of a great power must say differently: no cannon should fire without our permission. Especially now, especially in this area.
      Reply

      So the representative of a great power ...
    2. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 38 New
      0
      And where do you observe the Great Power here?
  • lucul
    lucul 26 July 2020 17: 05 New
    10
    If they want to fight, let them fight. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis stand against each other.

    And Russia again did not come to the war))))
    After all, this conflict was re-created to embroil Turkey and Russia, with the expectation that Russia will "fit" for the Armenians, and Turkey for Azerbaijan. But Russia did not come to the war ...
    It reminded me ... I don't want to offend anyone (neither the one nor the other people), just a pure analogy, I repeat - a pure analogy, no offense.
    1. not main
      not main 27 July 2020 00: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: lucul
      If they want to fight, let them fight. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis stand against each other.

      And Russia again did not come to the war))))
      In return, this conflict was re-created to embroil Turkey and Russia, with the expectation that Russia will "fit" for the Armenians, and Turkey for Azerbaijan. But Russia did not come to the war ...
      It reminded me ... I don't want to offend anyone (neither the one nor the other people), just a pure analogy, I repeat - a pure analogy, no offense.

      Laughed heartily! And then I remembered! So 35 years, back we enter a private yard and a dog rushes at us, on a chain! How she was torn and barked! And suddenly the chain breaks! The dog, by inertia, makes a few steps, then stops, tucking his tail and silently retreats to the booth!
  • bulava
    bulava 26 July 2020 23: 00 New
    +1
    This, unfortunately, is typical of many former Soviet republics, although it is in Armenia that this is not so striking. But here we are not even talking about that, but about the fact that this is our outpost on a powder keg. Or do you naively believe that if Armenia is dismantled for parts, then, magically, a NATO base will not be built there?
    1. Makarov1951
      Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 54 New
      -2
      Ave Maria I found one sane person amongst I will not tell whom
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 28 July 2020 21: 16 New
    -3
    "Lopatov" soldier hi For his persistent opinion at the beginning of this conflict. And I, too, if that repeat Everything fell into place. Well done "Lopatov"! Your opinion was correct, and mine too humble yes
  • nickname7
    nickname7 28 July 2020 21: 39 New
    0
    I remember Pashinyan arrested the CSTO Secretary General, who has immunity, in theory, such things cannot be forgiven. If the RF helps Armenia, then the latter should impeach Pashinyan.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 July 2020 04: 46 New
    11
    Someone else does not want to participate in resolving this issue.
    There are those who wish, even the USA. Another thing is the result from such intermediaries. request
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 05: 08 New
    48
    The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan is based on territorial claims to each other. Let them sit down at the negotiating table and negotiate. This is the most efficient option. If they don't want to negotiate, let them fight. Russia has already received "gratitude" for its internationalism. We do not have time to unsubscribe for the dismantling of monuments in grateful countries.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 26 July 2020 05: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: ROSS 42
      We do not have time to unsubscribe for the dismantling of monuments in grateful countries.

      And we will unsubscribe for a long time. The memory of the us satraps is changing rapidly.
      We need to keep ours.
      the piled-ups have already set their sights. judging by cons
      1. major147
        major147 26 July 2020 10: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        The memory of the us satraps is changing rapidly.
        We need to keep ours.

        Today I heard: "Those who do not want to know their history will be forced to teach someone else's" (c)
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 26 July 2020 18: 40 New
        -2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        We need to keep ours.
        the piled-ups have already set their sights. judging by the cons

        Change the record. And then everyone is tired of this navalno-Bandera oligarch-Kremlin record.
    2. stalki
      stalki 26 July 2020 06: 14 New
      +4
      The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan is based on territorial claims to each other. Let them sit down at the negotiating table and negotiate. This is the most efficient option. If they don't want to negotiate, let them fight. Russia has already received "gratitude" for its internationalism. We do not have time to unsubscribe for the dismantling of monuments in grateful countries.
      The fact is that Armenia is a member of the CSTO, our military base is on their territory. I am sure that most of the tasks solved with the help of the conflict discussed above are the strategic interests of the men, Pashinyan is their staging. Everything else is secondary, even national interests. If Russia does not interfere, then it is possible to shout about the uselessness of our military presence and put pressure on leaving the CSTO, etc., etc. There is no way we can remain in a neutral position, at least unofficially.
      1. depressant
        depressant 26 July 2020 09: 09 New
        60
        Do Armenians know how to lay asphalt? Do they love and know how to do it? Sometimes I think how much I can see from my window without leaving my house. So many years in a year or two, the asphalt laid by the Armenians went down, they came and laid it again in the same way. Until I put pressure on either pride or cowardice of the mayor in 2014. Russian brigades came, the asphalt was laid according to technology, since then it has been like new for six years ...
        The only thing that is good at - even Armenians, even Azerbaijanis - is to corrupt our authorities by bribery. Because, having bribed, the fact is not communicated to the law enforcement officers of the relevant units. Never. Russians sometimes inform. After all, any Russian, even a bandit, sits in the subcortex that bribery is bad, while Armenians and Azerbaijanis have a firm conviction that corruption is a natural and legal way of doing business, they have such a mentality. Therefore, in my small village, the Armenian mafia clan is flourishing, quietly, together with the Uzbeks, occupied all the small trade and squeezed out the Azerbaijanis. Wherever you turn, they are everywhere; nowhere in such a business is a Russian person dear. Russians know everything, understand everything. For example, the fact that in case of indignation, the power they bought will not be on our side.
        Therefore, my opinion is this: at the slightest attempt to "excite" on our territory - deportation without the right to return. Will they forge documents to return? Jail! Our still Soviet internationalism is given too dear to us. And also their state dependence. Having emerged from our paternalism, they are looking for new, more profitable owners in the given conditions, unable to finally get out of our care. For such kind and patient as we are, they will not find. But lay Russian lives for them? Dismiss! Let them figure it out for themselves. Negotiate with the winner.
        1. Stone
          Stone 26 July 2020 10: 16 New
          13
          You would put another 1000 pluses, or rather you can't write.
        2. Vlad T
          Vlad T 26 July 2020 10: 43 New
          0
          Everything stated is correct, but "the fish goes out from the head." Rescue of the drowning, the work of the drowning themselves). Then there will be an opportunity to restrain and put things in order on the ground and there will be no problems ... Here Khabarovsk residents showed an example,
        3. VIP
          VIP 26 July 2020 11: 07 New
          17
          Armenians "who love to lay asphalt" - the author obviously drank too much
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 July 2020 14: 36 New
          +9
          Quote: depressant
          Do Armenians know how to lay asphalt? Do they love and know how to do it?

          You raised this topic well, which has been working since the days of the USSR. I don't know what happened in other regions, but I know very well about the Smolensk region. There, since the mid-60s, pigsties, cowsheds and roads were made only by Armenians. Especially expensive, for their own it was a taboo. My classmate worked in the Dukhovshchinsky DEU as a deputy chief, so they were only allowed to make repairs, and the roads were given to the Armenians. Here the little chest just opened. In the USSR it was difficult to get cash, but for what such reasons, but the Armenians were given "cashmani". It turns out that nothing has changed in 50 years.
          1. vindigo
            vindigo 26 July 2020 14: 55 New
            13
            I once asked a friend from Omsk, why don't you try to get into the road business? He, what are you? There are some hachi. Outsiders will not be allowed. That's why the roads in Omsk are so bad.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 26 July 2020 15: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: vindigo
              I once asked a friend from Omsk, why don't you try to get into the road business? He, what are you? There are some hachi.

              Well, as I wrote, the Dukhovshchina-Solensk road was made for 40 years. They start from one end, they will do 25 km, they start from the other end of 25 km. And so for 40 years in a closed cycle. But somewhere about 10 years ago I arrived, I see a good road. Yes, only the Germans built it to replace the German cemetery.
            2. Makarov1951
              Makarov1951 27 July 2020 22: 58 New
              -4
              And your friend omnich did not tell you that this is a hell of a job and pay pennies for it. And the roads are bad because Russian officials take kickbacks of 50% and more, and the cat remains crying on the asphalt and wages of the workers.
      2. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 26 July 2020 11: 24 New
        +5
        "... most of the tasks solved with the help of the conflict discussed above are the strategic interests of the sheshek, Pashinyan is their staging. ... If Russia does not interfere, then you can shout about the uselessness of our military presence and put pressure on leaving the CSTO, etc. etc. We cannot remain in a neutral position, at least unofficially .... "

        Well, then the problem in this case is Pashinyan. Moreover, there were attacks on the CSTO on his part, now an anti-Russian policy is being pursued in Armenia, it seems that the current aggravation is inspired by Armenia.
        The best and really useful help in this case is to help solve the Pashinyan issue.
        1. dauria
          dauria 26 July 2020 12: 38 New
          +8
          The best and really useful help in this case is to help solve the Pashinyan issue.


          In such cases, the United States acts simply - they sharply worsen the country's economy, forcing the population to rage and throw off the ruler with the hands of the "people." Wouldn't it be time for us to learn all kinds of "purple" (purple, orange) revolutions?
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 26 July 2020 21: 09 New
        0
        Quote: stalki
        The fact is that Armenia is a member of the CSTO, our military base is on their territory

        In fact, only nominal, and recently generally pro-American. Let the "hegemon" protect them. And you can withdraw the base. And who's going to shout what, there is a good proverb about the dog and the caravan.
        1. stalki
          stalki 26 July 2020 22: 10 New
          0
          In fact, only nominal, and recently generally pro-American. Let the "hegemon" protect them. And you can withdraw the base. And who's going to shout what, there is a good proverb about the dog and the caravan.
          Why should we withdraw our base? You have not beguiled the coast? It's okay, just what a sshashke needs. It is you, of course, "originally" ignited.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 26 July 2020 22: 58 New
            -1
            Quote: stalki
            Have you missed the shore?

            Me not. And you?
            Quote: stalki
            It's okay, just what a sshashke needs.

            I do not know what a sshashka needs, but apparently you were informed.
            Quote: stalki
            It is you, of course, "originally" ignited.

            This is, of course, the "original" Russian language. laughing
            1. stalki
              stalki 26 July 2020 23: 39 New
              -2
              So what did you want to tell me? I have not read anything reasonable yet. Especially in a stupor after your "sparkling" joke. Well, apparently you think that something flashed. Well, consider wassat lol
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 26 July 2020 23: 42 New
                0
                Quote: stalki
                I have not read anything reasonable yet.

                What a hello, that’s the answer. request
                1. stalki
                  stalki 26 July 2020 23: 46 New
                  0
                  I didn't even say hello to you, but you "hello" No.
        2. bulava
          bulava 26 July 2020 22: 49 New
          -1
          You will have to write down these in a separate notebook. Then compare the style of writing comments. Something too many of you such "hatchers". Could it be from the farmstead near Lviv that you were drawn? In any case, you can't wait.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 26 July 2020 23: 26 New
            -2
            Quote: bulava
            You will have to write down these in a separate notebook.

            To tears! laughing
          2. Makarov1951
            Makarov1951 27 July 2020 23: 00 New
            -1
            Yes, they need to be conducted through the FSB. They are either sent to be treated for a lack of brains or as enemies of the homeland to make more serious decisions
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 July 2020 07: 22 New
      20
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Russia has already received "gratitude" for its internationalism.

      Oh! How many minuses I received from hurray-patriots for criticizing this internationalism.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 26 July 2020 11: 09 New
        -12
        Yes, there is half of the site of uryakalok, ready to tear everything and everyone for Soviet false ideals. Probably the kirzachi have become attached to their brains.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 26 July 2020 18: 45 New
          +4
          All this military meat grinder around the world is the result of this deviation from Soviet ideals. But it doesn't matter to you. True? You just want your ass to be warm, and after you even a flood.
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 26 July 2020 07: 44 New
      10
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan is based on territorial claims to each other.

      Yes, this conflict is already a hundred years old! (If not more). Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis live in this territory. And they live normally! If the "top" did not inflate interethnic strife, then all disputes would be resolved peacefully.
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 26 July 2020 23: 54 New
        +1
        "Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis live in this territory." You are wrong. Since 1988, in Armenia and in Karabakh itself and + 7 more adjacent areas of mountainous and low-lying Karabakh, there is not a single Azerbaijanis. They have been expelled from their houses and lands, villages and cities. Many in this mess did not manage to escape and were killed or Many citizens were taken hostage, some of them died, some were ransomed by their relatives, some were exchanged for arrested separatist bandits, but more than 1200 people disappeared without a trace in their hands and their fate is unknown to this day. They destroyed 8 cities and 828 settlements of Azerbaijan to the foundation. (Think about these figures, and the extent of damage for a small country) For example, the city of Agdam, look what they have done with this city. By comparison, Hiroshima looked better after the atomic bomb exploded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilw8bKa0vLM
        1. bulava
          bulava 27 July 2020 21: 59 New
          -2
          Will we tactfully keep silent about Sumgait and Nakhichevan?)
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 27 July 2020 22: 11 New
            +1
            Ashot Ashotovich, Sumgait is the consequences, not the cause and the root cause. (About Nakhchivan lies, and the change of direction of the topic from the main thing. Moreover, in 1987-94 Nakhchivan territories suffered from your attacks.) The first attacks were in Armenia on Azerbaijanis, the first refugees also then appeared. The first victims were also Azerbaijanis. Two Azerbaijanis died at the hands of the Karabakh Armenian separatists. The Armenians demanded Karabakh, not us the territory of Armenia. We went, we got to today. The chronology of events cannot be fooled, no matter what you do. There are dates for all deeds, when and how everything was.
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 13: 54 New
        0
        The tops, especially the national ones, must be regularly cleaned, they get fat and begin to shit
    5. evgenii67
      evgenii67 26 July 2020 08: 41 New
      12
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan is based on territorial claims to each other. Let them sit down at the negotiating table and negotiate. This is the most efficient option. If they don't want to negotiate, let them fight.

      At the negotiating table, yes, this is good, but they will not agree, then the war, but this is an extreme and sad option. I am confused by another thing, that it is Azerbaijanis and Armenians who bury each other in different countries? What is this underrepatriotism? This also applies to Russians and Ukrainians, who arrange clashes, for example, in the United States. I would like to ask the question, WHAT ARE YOU? You do not have a homeland, you made your choice by moving to another country and now you are Germans, Americans ... with the mark "Armenian", "Azerbaijani origin". And if you don't like something, so bring it down to your historical homeland and join the ranks of the armed forces of your countries.
      1. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 26 July 2020 20: 04 New
        +5
        Golden words, neither subtract nor add!
        good
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 07 New
        +1
        You are making a mistake so characteristic of our leadership. People from national republics, having received a passport of the Russian Federation, absolutely do not become Russians, they still continue to be representatives of these nations. With all the qualities inherent in representatives of these nations. (A nation is a set of genes that we, unlike citizenship and faith, are not able to change , and the nation has a much greater influence on our actions and mentality than citizenship or religion) And not to understand this, or to pretend that you do not understand, it is probably politically correct, but extremely stupid.
    6. georgiigennadievitch
      georgiigennadievitch 26 July 2020 09: 01 New
      48
      A long time ago (in 1991) I had to feel the "love" of Caucasians for Russia. Somewhere in the beginning of October, I was urgently summoned to the commander of Sibvo, Colonel-General B.E. Pyankov. In the reception room, I greeted the deputies of the chief of the district's rear The commander ordered us to urgently leave for Tolmachevo airport to meet and help family members of servicemen who were evacuated from the Transcaucasus on a military board. We agreed that I was on the "Rafik" and take the "Pazik" with me (we knew how many people would arrive) I immediately go to the military site, and the rest will arrive later at the evacuation point, located nearby, where I have to transport the arrivals, because. they had to take with them money, statements, travel documents, etc ... On the military site I saw an IL-76 already landed with the engines on. The ship's commander informed me that they had landed 20 minutes ago. From the dinner I offered and refused to rest, because. They had an order to fly back immediately after refueling. Female passengers and children descended the stairs to the airfield. A little more than 20 people in total (I don’t remember exactly.) It was getting dark. It was getting cold. Ice began to glisten on the puddles on the asphalt. They were clearly not dressed for the weather, in summer jackets, raincoats. The expression on the faces and postures of the women showed anxiety that they were very tired, nervous and preparing for new tests. The children resembled crumpled sparrows. The plane began to taxi to the refueling point. How could I reassure those who arrived. He said that everything bad was over for them. Now they are in complete safety. By order of the commander, they will be paid money and issued travel documents. and assistance will be provided in sending them to the destinations they indicated. After that, the silence of the arrivals was interrupted by an avalanche of questions and stories about what they had to endure. They were anxiously collected from a military town in Azerbaijan to a military unit. They were told to take only documents and money with them. Then they were escorted by submachine gunners through the barricades and traffic jams on the street to a military airfield, where several military aircraft were waiting for them. There was no shooting, but the armored personnel carriers accompanying the convoy pushed the buses, trucks and cars that blocked the street and a raging crowd. There, at the airfield, everyone was seated on airplanes to be sent to relatives, or where they had housing. In central Russia, the Volga region, Siberia, etc. He offered to get on the bus to go to the evacuation center. But that's all why they began to climb into the "Rafik" and did not want to get on the bus. Apparently they were afraid to fall behind and get lost. I got on the bus and everything went there. It was light and warm in the evacuation point, there were covered stations. Ols with a generous Voentorg snack, smelled deliciously of freshly brewed dumplings. The beds were filled with new linen. This hospitality made the hungry and frozen travelers feel deeply. Some women burst into tears. They felt sorry for their abandoned apartments and property. One of them saw caked blood on a lobe. that when she ran out of the house with her daughter and made her way through the crowd, her earring was pulled out of her ear ... After supper, Voso and the financiers earned money. All were paid "travel" money and travel documents.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 26 July 2020 21: 20 New
        +8
        Quote: georgiigennadievitch
        .And when they begin to depict the suffering of Azerbaijani or Armenian refugees, their interests and concerns, then I remember the evening and IL-76 in Tolmachevo, refugees-members of the families of military personnel and a woman with a torn earlobe and it seems to me that it is necessary to think and care first turn about their compatriots.

        It's high time to think about our own. But everything is as usual.
    7. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 26 July 2020 09: 51 New
      +4
      "Territorial claims to each other?")) What are Azerbaijan's claims to Armenia? These are not Azerbaijanis, but Armenians occupied Karabakh and 7 regions of Azerbaijan inhabited only by Azerbaijanis, destroying in the most savage way a part of the peaceful Azerbaijani population there. What are you talking about? There is nothing to throw from a sore head to a healthy one.
    8. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 26 July 2020 18: 36 New
      0
      When you write about the dismantling of monuments on the other side of the border, do not forget inadvertently about the sluggish decommunization and the mausoleum enclosed in the next parade. And about appeals, it will rally around the monument to Krasnov from federal channels.
    9. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 52 New
      +1
      Well, it's up to us to decide what to do and who to help. And you, judging by the tone of your comments, you'd better write to Zelensky on Facebook.
    10. Farid Alekperov
      Farid Alekperov 28 July 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      I will clarify the territorial claims of Armenia to Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan has only one claim - to return the occupied territories. From the point of view of international law, Azerbaijan is right.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 26 July 2020 05: 31 New
    28
    All detainees have sentences for inciting ethnic hatred, and for life deportation from the country, for everyone, even for those who have Russian citizenship... Let them sort things out and howl there.
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 26 July 2020 07: 47 New
      -5
      Quote: Strashila
      even for those who have Russian citizenship.

      Just that? fool On what basis will you deport Russian citizens? If you have already given citizenship, then, please, treat all citizens equally, BY LAW. Or will we introduce the concepts of first and second class citizens? Another thing is that it is impossible to distribute citizenship left and right to former compatriots from Central Asian and Transcaucasian countries. At the expense of these people, the state is trying to make up for the annual demographic extinction of citizens.
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 26 July 2020 08: 37 New
        +6
        those who wave their fists have dual citizenship, even if it is not Russian and will continue to live.
        1. depressant
          depressant 26 July 2020 09: 45 New
          26
          Colleague mdsr, they have their own ethnic homelands. We, Russians, have no other ethnic homeland besides Russia! How many times have I heard from the same Abkhazians who benefited beyond all measure: "You, Russians, are guests here!" With deep bitterness, I must note that for many of us, the Motherland turned into a stepmother and continues to remain such to this day, at the same time willingly, at the behest of a higher person, warming up foreigners.
      2. gsev
        gsev 26 July 2020 10: 03 New
        13
        Quote: mdsr
        On what basis will you deport Russian citizens?

        Upon obtaining citizenship, they concealed their affiliation with an organization planning to organize a pogrom in Russia and concealed the purpose of moving to Russia - a pogrom at the Food City market. If the Kazakh and Uzbeks and pogromists were not decisively punished, with the punishment of the big bosses, the USSR would not have collapsed. I think if the owner of Food City pays for the material and moral damage from the pogroms, and the identified part of the pogromists with their families will be deprived of citizenship and deported with confiscation of property to compensate for the damage caused, attempts to organize interethnic clashes will not be repeated in the next 40 years.
      3. passerby
        passerby 26 July 2020 11: 14 New
        13
        As we have given, we will take it back, since they do not know how to behave. Or are they here, according to the LAW, arranged a showdown on ethnic grounds? If you feel like not a citizen of Russia, but a citizen of Armenia or Azerbaijan, then live there.
        Quote: mdsr
        If you have already given citizenship, then, please, treat all citizens equally, BY LAW.
      4. mitrich
        mitrich 26 July 2020 11: 16 New
        +6
        As they gave and take away. There are plenty of their own inadequacies, no new ones are needed. To deprive and deport to the historical nenya.
    2. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 11 New
      +1
      It is better to put it against the wall - it will be clearer.
  • PDM80
    PDM80 26 July 2020 05: 47 New
    28
    It's high time for some diasporas in Russia to squeeze their tails! Armenians, Georgians, Moldovans and others so that they know and remember that they don’t have to open their mouths to Russia if you make money here! And in this particular case, the Turks must not interfere and close our border tightly.
    1. domokl
      26 July 2020 06: 10 New
      -7
      You are reasoning sensibly. Like a Russian person. But without taking into account the fact that the diasporas in Russia are citizens of the Russian Federation. With all the rights and obligations of citizens of Russia. You forget that the family ties of these peoples are very strong. For them, the main thing is not citizenship, but kinship. Therefore, such peoples do not "dissolve" for centuries living outside their native states. This is not the prerogative of the peoples of the Caucasus alone. Jews, gypsies for how many centuries have been persecuted?
      So the closure of borders is, excuse me, complete nonsense.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 26 July 2020 06: 40 New
        33
        If they are citizens of Russia, then let them live according to the laws of Russia and be assembled, and do not bring their mentality and desires here, there is not even a desire, but a requirement to live as at home and according to their own laws !!! And then the question arises? Are they citizens of Russia? Or simply the owners of a borbovy book with a two-headed eagle and the inscription Russia ?!
        1. demo
          demo 26 July 2020 07: 05 New
          +4
          You would go to the Chechen Republic or the Republic of Tatarstan and start expressing your thoughts about assimilation there.
          You don't have to go, but take it and write directly to Facebook or somewhere else to Ramzan Kadyrov.
          I'd like to look at the development of a possible dialogue.
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 26 July 2020 07: 12 New
            17
            You said it yourself! They are not going to us to them! And yes to Kadyrov from the big bell tower! I don't blame him for a man. There is no bad nation, there are bad people and RamzanmKadyrov is one of them. Not signed on Facebook and any telegrams, I don't need it. As for Tatarstan, they honestly defended their independence in accordance with the Constitution precisely as members of the federation and had good preferences. Alas, they were suppressed by adopting absolutely anti-constitutional laws. This is why the regions hate the central government!
            1. demo
              demo 26 July 2020 07: 33 New
              +8
              I understand that to argue with you is to wind your nerves, but here are your words:
              "If they are citizens of Russia, then let them live according to the laws of Russia and assemble themselves, and not bring their mentality and desires here."
              Are you proposing to the citizens of Russia to assimilate?
              Assimilation is a process as a result of which one ethnic group is deprived of its distinctive features and is replaced by the features of another ethnic group.
              You've probably lost sight of the fact that Russia is a multinational state. With a hundred large and small ethnic groups.
              There are Yakuts, Evenks, Mordvinians and Karelians!
              How to be here?
              Every ethnic group in Russia has every right to be unique.
              In Russia there are small peoples of which there are, in some cases, 10-20 people.
              And they are worn with them as with a "written bag".
              And there are probably about a million Armenians in Russia with a Russian passport.
              Feel the difference, as they say.
              1. Nehist
                Nehist 26 July 2020 09: 53 New
                -3
                Respected! The Republic of Ingushetia waged war with the Yakuts for almost 70 years! Learn the history of your own country first! No Empire was created peacefully! What did the Cossacks of Comrade Atlasov or Khabarov do during the annexation of Siberia and the Far East to RI ... It is sometimes useful to know the history of your own country. And then we are discussing the British ... And yes, in the same Republic of Ingushetia, foreigners were not counted as a taxable population.
                1. demo
                  demo 27 July 2020 10: 12 New
                  0
                  And I said the opposite?
                  I know quite fully, as far as I am informed, how Russia was growing by territories.
                  And what happened at the same time.
                  Even without reading the historical documents, one thing is clear - the newcomers could subdue the locals only by force.
                  There is no other way.
                  So you shouldn't put me at my desk again.

                  And yes, in the same Republic of Ingushetia, foreigners were not counted as taxable population.
                  The first legislative act on foreigners was the "Charter on the management of foreigners", published in 1822. He, along with the "Charter of the Siberian Kirghiz", defined the system of governance of the non-Slavic peoples of Siberia. Most of its provisions were in effect until the February Revolution (coup).

                  The charter on the management of foreigners was drawn up by M.M.Speransky after his expedition to study the state of Siberia with the help of G. S. Batenkov. The charter divided the foreigners into "settled", "nomadic" and "wandering" and, according to this division, determined their administrative and legal status.

                  According to the "Code of Laws on Conditions" (Art. 762), foreigners were divided into:

                  Siberian foreigners;
                  Samoyeds of the Arkhangelsk province (Nenets);
                  nomadic aliens of the Stavropol province (Kalmyks, Nogais and Trukhmen);
                  Kalmyks wandering in the Astrakhan and Stavropol provinces;
                  Kyrgyz (Kazakhs) of the Inner Horde;
                  foreigners of Akmola, Semipalatinsk, Semirechensk, Ural and Turgai regions (Kazakhs);
                  foreigners of the Turkestan region (peoples of Central Asia)
                  non-Russian population of the Trans-Caspian region (Turkmens and Kazakhs-Adays);
                  highlanders of the North Caucasus
                  Jews.
                  The rights of the first seven categories of foreigners were determined by the "Regulations on foreigners", "Regulations on the administration of the Akmola, Semipalatinsk, Semirechensk, Ural and Turgai regions", "Provisional Regulations on the administration of the Transcaspian region", as well as a number of other documents and charters. The rights of Jews were determined by the Code of Laws on Conditions (Articles 767-816), as well as a number of other documents concerning them.

                  The categories of foreigners can be divided into two categories: Eastern foreigners and Jews. The most significant difference between them was that Jewishness was not only due to origin, but also to religion. Therefore, a Jew who adopted Christianity, according to the law, ceased to be considered a foreigner. On the contrary, belonging to Eastern aliens was due only to origin, and therefore the adoption of Christianity by Eastern aliens did not entail a way out of the state of aliens. At the same time, the eastern aliens, having become sedentary, could, without any restrictions, enter the estates of urban and rural inhabitants. However, the Jews, despite their settledness, could not get out of the state of foreigners without converting to Christianity.

                  There was also a special category of foreigners who did not completely depend on Russia. It included the tribes wandering on the border of Russia with China, whose citizenship was not established and about which there was almost no information at all. They roamed either on Chinese or Russian lands, had the right to free duty-free trade with neighboring Russians and foreigners, were subject to the Russian court only in case of murder or violence committed on Russian soil, and enjoyed the protection of the Russian government only when they approached requests. Russian legislation imposed on them only the obligation to let in their lands and to protect against any assassination of persons supplied with protective sheets from the Governor-General. When drawing up the 1822 provision on foreigners, the Chukchi and Dzyungors (Zyungor Dvoedants) were also assigned to such foreigners who did not completely depend on Russia.

                  Any state that has taken under its control another people (foreigners) will be interested in receiving material benefits from this.
                  And RI is no exception.
                  Yassyk has long been preserved in the relationship between the Russian government and foreigners.
              2. Russian Central Asian
                Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 18 New
                +4
                The Armenians, Ayzers, Georgians and others have their own states, from where they, with great joy, have almost squeezed out and continue to squeeze out the Russians, who, as they claim, were occupiers and by their presence there insulted local proud ethnic groups. Question-but why the heck are you rushing to Russia now?
                1. demo
                  demo 27 July 2020 15: 08 New
                  -1
                  If this is a question for me, then I'm kind of out of business.
                  I am Russian.
                  If the question is for the authorities of the Russian Federation, then the address of the President of the Russian Federation is on the Internet.
                  If a question is for the representatives of these ethnic groups, then publish it on those sites where they communicate.
                  If the question is rhetorical, into emptiness, then the answer can be one - the fish is looking for where in a deeper way, and where a person is better.
                  Are Armenians and Azerbaijanis the same people in spite of everything?
                  Is it impossible to refuse them this?

                  With age it began to seem to me that there are usually two sides to any ethnic problem.
                  If the Russians were squeezed out of these or those national republics, then in addition to local nationalism there is Russian indifference (my hut is on the edge).
                  Do you agree?
                  If a person does not want to unite with another person in order to defend his own living space, then he will have no choice but to leave it.

                  I will not write about who is to blame for this state of affairs.
                  Well, not those who squeezed the Russians out of their republics.

                  Just for example, I will give the Old Believers.
                  They did not want to submit to the new church authority and left wherever they looked.
                  Some to Siberia.
                  And some to the Caucasus.
                  Where they successfully confronted the local, and then the tsarist, and later the Bolshevik authorities.
                  And they are still alive.
                  And in South America, and in Australia, and in Asia, such islets remained.
                  It was the Russians who understood the main thing - strength is in unity.

                  It is about us living here and now that such a talker like Zhvanetsky said:
                  They won't help in a fight, but they will win the war.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 26 July 2020 07: 45 New
            17
            Quote: demo
            Would you go to the Chechen Republic or to the Republic of Tatarstan and start expressing their thoughts about assimilation there.

            And where did you see the "guarantor", the prime minister or some other top-level official (minister) here on the site? The person speaks correctly. There is a country that guarantees its citizens (must guarantee) not only equal rights, but also equal obligations.
            No one was accused of strong family ties, so long as they did not replace official, state and other business relations. We were all brought up on internationalism. But there is another concept:
            Egalitarianism (French égalitarisme from égalité "equality") - a concept based on the idea of ​​creating a society with equal political, economic, social and civil rights of all members of this society, as an ideal - equality of opportunity. The opposite of elitism.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 July 2020 07: 31 New
          -12
          Quote: Nehist
          If they are citizens of Russia, then let them live according to the laws of Russia and be assembled, and not bring their mentality and desires here

          well this is too much already. And what do they interfere with you, climb into your life, into your church, into your family?
          1. demo
            demo 26 July 2020 07: 36 New
            +1
            Keep track of who said and wrote what.
            The question is not for me.
            I quoted the one who commented on me.
          2. Nehist
            Nehist 26 July 2020 07: 59 New
            14
            They climb and how! Or do you not know how selectively we use Article 282 of the Criminal Code?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 26 July 2020 08: 25 New
              +5
              Quote: Nehist
              They climb and how! Or do you not know how selectively we use Article 282 of the Criminal Code?

              Maybe they are climbing, they are still the lads. But with assimilation, it doesn't work out well.
              We often raise questions about the violation of the rights of Russians in the Baltic States and other republics. Judging by your opinion, they can also violate the rights of the Russian diasporas and assimilate them.
          3. Russian Central Asian
            Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 25 New
            0
            Is it purely curious that you wrote this out of harm, or do you really believe in what you write?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 27 July 2020 15: 04 New
              +2
              Quote: Russian Central Asia
              Is it purely curious that you wrote this out of harm, or do you really believe in what you write?

              And here is the harm, I have lived in Estonia since Soviet times. And if they say on the website that Russians are oppressed and assimilated in Estonia, then they need to be protected. So I ask why those who have arrived in Russia need to be assimilated. Here I do not catch up where it is possible and where not.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 26 July 2020 08: 05 New
        15
        Quote: domokl
        For them, the main thing is not citizenship, but kinship. Therefore, such peoples do not "dissolve" for centuries living outside their native states.

        Greetings, Alexander! Let them not dissolve. The main thing is that the laws are not violated! And then the rights - they know very well, but the duties - shish! Moreover, sometimes the impudence goes off scale. It is enough to remember M. Bagdosoryan.
        1. domokl
          26 July 2020 09: 04 New
          14
          Quote: Egoza
          It is enough to remember M. Bagdosoryan.

          Greetings Elena. Yes, we have a pair of each creature ... I'm talking about rights and obligations ... Impudence and permissiveness does not depend on nationality, but on impunity associated with the pope's wallet ...
          When the law becomes the same for everyone, it will disappear ... Only now, to live in this wonderful time ...
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 14 New
            +4
            Alexander!!! The amendments are accepted !!! And there ALREADY someone is more equal than everyone else !!!! What Equality before the law can we say? Moreover, the mentality is RUSSIAN !!! Where Law and Justice are usually mutually exclusive concepts !!!
      3. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 26 July 2020 08: 58 New
        14
        Quote: domokl
        diasporas in Russia are citizens of the Russian Federation.

        It is what it is. yes Only for some reason the fact is not taken into account that in the overwhelming majority of cases these "citizenships", residence permits and registrations are stupidly bought.
        And these citizenships are obtained not at all for the purpose of full participation in the life of the country, but only as a cover for their own hobby activities on the territory of the Russian Federation. And it would be superfluous to mention that the overwhelming majority of these organisms have Russian citizenship by no means the only one.
        Yes, even here it was possible to meet such "citizens", exactly in the period of the next exacerbation with the Turks. How do they conceal this citizenship, and they declare about the taxes paid (???), and they accuse fascism ... fellow laughing
        And right there they are ready to stick a knife in the back, openly speaking on the side of a potential enemy. This is about one side of the conflict. Others ... Well, they decided to play independently, change the vectors. And already openly flaunt this, forgetting about the hand with which they feed. Well, well ... On the other hand, what else can you expect from a country led by a mattress marginal? Now let’s try it with the turret and the "on my own" ...
        But they won't try - they will immediately remember about the Russian Federation, the CSTO, and "citizenship", yeah.
        And, by the way, both those and other "citizens" use the cities of the Russian Federation with might and main as a platform for showdowns among themselves. Just now, here, in Moscow, they clashed, and on the eve they were going to make a splash near the Obukhovsky bridge, but the cops worked quickly and prevented the stabbing. Something like that. And then "citizenship", "citizens" ... negative Yes, if anything, then citizenship can be deprived, if it is enough to scrape together by their actions.
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 26 July 2020 10: 24 New
          +1
          the cops worked quickly and prevented the stabbing
          but in vain ... it was necessary to be late for 30 minutes
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 26 July 2020 10: 33 New
            +9
            Quote: Igoresha
            I had to be 30 minutes late
            And all would be fine, but the cops are not their own enemies .. In the case of a real mass slaughter, and even with lethal slaughter, all statistics go down the drain. And then another hemorrhage with the capture of killers, who, by an interesting coincidence, immediately find themselves outside the Russian Federation. And, which is typical, all these cuttings occur under the patronage of the notorious "diasporas" - breeding grounds for this infection, covering their fosterlings with might and main. am
          2. Russian Central Asian
            Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 30 New
            0
            And even better than the rest - to finish shooting, cut off the heads of all the participants and put them on stakes with an explanation of why this happened to them. Maybe someone will say that this is too cruel, let it be cruel, but most importantly, effective.
      4. depressant
        depressant 26 July 2020 09: 50 New
        15
        Author!!!
        Let the Russians be given the most favorable treatment for obtaining Russian passports! Since 92, some Russians from Abkhazia, decent, decent people who know professions in demand, have not been able to obtain citizenship! When this issue is resolved, then we will talk about humanity and legality.
        1. your1970
          your1970 26 July 2020 10: 15 New
          0
          I'm embarrassed to ask, what is the problem with them that they can't get 28 years?
          So in Abkhazia, Russian passports were practically handed out at one time ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 26 July 2020 10: 38 New
            13
            The Abkhaz were handed out. And not in Abkhazia itself, but in the "Chaika" hotel in Sochi, the special services. The Russians were not allowed close. And further, already in the 10s, here, in the central part of Russia, they demanded such documents that could not be obtained. Like, take the citizenship of Georgia first. People have tried - it's useless. The Abkhaz, in turn, did not give citizenship to the Russians, from whom they themselves were deprived of their homes. And the loss of documents for such Russians is tantamount to civil death. Lawyers are not accepted. You are simply not aware of the outrage that is happening. And I do not intend to present it here in detail. The authorities are perfectly familiar with the problem and deliberately do not want to solve it even according to the newly amended law. Because the policy is like this: Tajiks, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, others Russia needs, Russians do not. Because the Russians from there have a small degree of corruption, which is the glue of the vertical of power. So nafig Russians are needed!
            1. your1970
              your1970 26 July 2020 11: 52 New
              +2
              was in Abkhazia in 2006 on vacation. The mistress's son (Russian) in between times ("I have to come in tomorrow, take my passport") received citizenship. And he got it - so that the problem with a car registered in Russia was less.
              And the loss of documents, in the USSR and in the Russian Federation, has always been a global problem ... Without a piece of paper, you are an insect, but with a piece of paper a person ...
            2. Igoresha
              Igoresha 26 July 2020 12: 04 New
              -2
              Abkhazians, in turn
              I thought the Abkhaz are conditionally good, the Georgians offend them ... live and learn
        2. Nehist
          Nehist 26 July 2020 12: 16 New
          +8
          Gg personally I know all sorts of Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks who can't really speak Russian, but with Russian passports !!! The price of the issue is 15 thousand and two weeks of time
        3. Russian Central Asian
          Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 33 New
          +2
          Well, you are dreaming))), in fact, it is much easier for all foreigners to obtain Russian citizenship than for Russians from national republics,
      5. passerby
        passerby 26 July 2020 11: 18 New
        +6
        Quote: domokl
        So the closure of borders is, excuse me, complete nonsense.

        To be loaded into wagons and sent to "relatives" in their historical homeland to help, without the right to come back. So it will be fair, since they feel ties with their "relatives" in Armenia and Azerbaijan, but do not feel ties with Russia where they now live. To send a couple of echelons of such "sensitive" family ties to Azerbaijan and Armenia, the rest will vividly understand who are their relatives and who are not.
        1. Russian Central Asian
          Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 35 New
          +2
          Expensive and a lot of fuss, cartridges are much cheaper.
      6. mitrich
        mitrich 26 July 2020 11: 19 New
        +3
        That means they were little persecuted. First of all, claims to the Egyptians and Romans.
  • maiman61
    maiman61 26 July 2020 06: 29 New
    17
    Let none of them hope that Russia will fight for them. If they are MEN and not women in the bazaar, then let them fight one on one! They remind me of a dog that barks furiously and runs along the fence, and when it reaches a hole in the fence, it does not run out, but then runs along the fence.
    1. VIP
      VIP 26 July 2020 07: 33 New
      +6
      Plus: good comparison
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 27 July 2020 00: 05 New
      0
      "If they are MEN" (From Aliyev's introduction) Aliyev to Pashinyan: "At that time the CSTO was bad, you insulted her, and now you beg her for help. Fight with us one-on-one."
      Aliyev invited to a duel, he is waiting for an answer, but Pashinyan is silent)
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 26 July 2020 06: 57 New
    +3
    It is necessary to withdraw the military base from Armenia, or at least announce it in the media.
    1. VIP
      VIP 26 July 2020 07: 59 New
      +3
      Let's say Vovan said: we pack our bags. What does it give: ending the conflict? Not. Depriving a trump card in pressure on us? Perhaps, but here there is a double-edged sword: 1) they can immediately get confused - the Russians are leaving us, what about now? And then what to withdraw the troops, and where again to the open field? And the Americans will come to our place. Do we need it?
      1. ssergey1978
        ssergey1978 26 July 2020 08: 35 New
        +3
        Write nonsense. Gone are the days when the army came to an open field. There are Americans in Georgia, well, they will be in Armenia, so what?
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 37 New
        0
        There is such a variant of clearing the territory - no Americans will stick there for another two hundred years.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 July 2020 07: 17 New
    +4
    Yes, it is necessary to negotiate, but they will not be able to agree, ambitions ..
  • Eirik Krause
    Eirik Krause 26 July 2020 07: 22 New
    10
    LET'S FIGHT FOR HEALTH: NORMAL, PROGRESSIVE RUSSIANS SHOULD DO A PERSPECTIVE FUNERAL BUSINESS THERE!
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 26 July 2020 08: 14 New
      +9
      But you can start by selling weapons. The funeral business will pick itself up.
    2. the finish
      the finish 26 July 2020 13: 48 New
      +1
      Probably watched a lot of Armenian-Azeri funeral brigades in the DNRLNR and got jealous?
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 26 July 2020 07: 27 New
    10
    Russia owes nothing to anyone except its people
  • Hikaro
    Hikaro 26 July 2020 07: 28 New
    +7
    This is the result of the pro-Western Pashinyan being in power! Armenia began to drift towards the west, and if earlier Kocheryan clearly kept the situation under control and Azerbaijan knew that it was not worth stirring up the conflict, now, when the degree of Russophobia in Armenia began to go off scale, the situation immediately changed! The base from Gyumri must not be withdrawn under any circumstances! I suppose Pashinyan will soon have this demand to withdraw the base! Like you are not protecting us, the CSTO is an empty space, and the rest of the set! As I understand it, Pashinyan began this conflict with the aim of getting out of the influence of Russia and, according to Georgia's version, trying to integrate into the Western model!
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 26 July 2020 09: 04 New
      +7
      Exit then he can. BUT! For Armenia, making a "European choice" or a pro-American one, in my opinion, is not very promising. For one reason. And this reason is the geopolitical position between Turkey, Iran and Azerbaijan. Of course there is also Georgia, but how much of that Georgia is there. And Western countries, in the event of such a conflict, will at most come out with condemnation and appeals for peace. Well, or ban the sale of weapons to their companies in the belligerent countries, which is so-so help. No matter what they promise Pashinyan now. Vaughn Saakashvili also promised a lot. Only when they realized that everything had become very serious, the promises were somehow forgotten. And the Georgian army somehow ended quickly. And I believe that the Armenian army will also quickly end with a simultaneous strike by Azerbaijan and Turkey.
    2. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 42 New
      -2
      Where are such conclusions from? Did you publish it in Khutorskaya Pravda?
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 26 July 2020 07: 29 New
    +6
    Shake both sides by the collar and prohibit the import of goods into Russia.
    1. Vinnibuh
      Vinnibuh 26 July 2020 11: 13 New
      +2
      Nu duc half of Armenia and Azerbaijan live in Russia). I communicated with Armenians and Azerbaijanis, in Russia it is purely business and they put them in their small homeland, living in Russia tastes better, and at the same time they drag their relatives here. And in our country they only fight from sofas (mahachi are mainly arranged by young animals).
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 26 July 2020 07: 29 New
    +7
    On figs on those and on others - let them fight
  • rocket757
    rocket757 26 July 2020 07: 35 New
    +4
    Immediately and finally wrote that YOURSELF, YOURSELF!
    Anyone who has a mustache himself is a fan of two mothers to suck ...... in short, it's clear. It was high time they SHOW it!
  • sen
    sen 26 July 2020 07: 43 New
    +1
    Russia's neutrality came as a surprise to Armenians and Azerbaijanis

    Serbia exported weapons to Armenia with the approval of five departments at once: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Trade and the Intelligence Service.
    https://arm-world.ru/news/novostnik/59727-serbija-jeksportirovala-oruzhie-v-armeniju-s-odobrenija-vlastej-strany-serbskij-ministr.html
    Ukrainian radicals recruit citizens of Ukraine, as well as current and former militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the aim of sending them to Azerbaijan to participate in the military conflict with Armenia. This was announced by the official representative of the people's militia of the Lugansk People's Republic Yakov Osadchy during a press conference.
    https://novorosinform.org/822686?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 26 July 2020 10: 02 New
      +4
      Another denunciation from an extremely dubious source. "The official representative of the people's militia of the Lugansk People's Republic" is this the ultimate truth?)) But don't you bother to present evidence? And if a representative of the non-departmental security of the Department of Emergency Situations of South Ossetia announces the recruitment of dancers of the Tbilisi ballet "Sukhishvili" by Azerbaijan for the war in Karabakh, we must assume it will be the purest truth)) Just some clowns who replicate this information. I thought the time of such stuffing, i.e. frank disinformation, long gone.
      1. bulava
        bulava 26 July 2020 22: 39 New
        -2
        Well, you may have more reliable sources - BBC, CNN or TRT there. And we somehow trust our own people more.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 27 July 2020 00: 17 New
          +1
          Enough yes Ivan Ashotovich))) How long can you hide under the mask of a Slav. The nose does not fit into the mask, the mask is raised to a horizontal position, everything is already visible, even curly hair sticking out of the nose laughing laughing laughing
          1. bulava
            bulava 27 July 2020 09: 28 New
            0
            The very last thing is to stoop to insult nationality. Nose, nose hair ... low it
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 27 July 2020 14: 23 New
              +1
              Low, this is when Ashot writes that he is Ivan and substitutes others.
              1. bulava
                bulava 27 July 2020 15: 15 New
                -3
                these are your fantasies
  • bar
    bar 26 July 2020 07: 55 New
    +8
    Let them fight, let off steam. Until they themselves want to reconcile and themselves do not ask Russia for mediation, there is nothing to interfere. And those hot horsemen who are arranging a showdown here should be screwed up and expelled with a subsequent ban on entry forever. And "local", who managed to obtain Russian citizenship, should be closed under the article "on incitement."
    1. fiberboard
      fiberboard 26 July 2020 09: 40 New
      +6
      Citizenship can be revoked, a common practice. In general, it is necessary to reconsider the legality of obtaining citizenship by persons who have received Russian citizenship since 1991. A lot and slapped at just anyone.
      1. Vinnibuh
        Vinnibuh 26 July 2020 11: 15 New
        +2
        Rightly noticed.
  • Asad
    Asad 26 July 2020 08: 23 New
    10
    I have not seen Armenians in Novosibirsk with shovels with asphalt! Maybe foremen? Or office owners.
    1. Vinnibuh
      Vinnibuh 26 July 2020 11: 17 New
      +2
      They disguise themselves as Uzbek-Tajik, etc. laughing
  • ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 26 July 2020 08: 32 New
    15
    Article crying princess of some kind. Let the pit go to war. Armenians and Aswalt are generally strong. My opinion is that they do more harm than good. There is no need to intervene in the conflict, the refugees should not be allowed. All those who live in Russia and will rage, fight and deport
  • cniza
    cniza 26 July 2020 08: 42 New
    +3
    The conflict must be ended. You should never take out a weapon when there is an opportunity to talk. Weapons are taken out only when a fight is imminent. It was a fight, and not a catwalk runway with casualties and comments from showmen from politics.


    How can this be hammered into the heads of politicians? ... political ambitions and the struggle for power cancels everything out, and ordinary people suffer and die ...
  • rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 26 July 2020 08: 47 New
    +5
    in short, the author is for all good, against all bad. Yes, let them cut more of each other, in life there is one law - the law of the taiga, who is stronger, he is right, and all these snot Lavrovsky and concerns are the lot of the weak
  • fiberboard
    fiberboard 26 July 2020 08: 55 New
    18
    I can well imagine markets without Azerbaijanis and builders without Armenians. Where did the author get the idea that we can't do without them? On the road, I also saw Russian brigades working well. In Tyva, Vostok LLC copes without Armenians. In the nineties, after the pogroms in the markets, in Irkutsk and Ulan-Uda, not a single Caucasian was seen for some time. Russian women traded. We have a saying: A holy place is never empty. Another thing is that they buy our officials with giblets, and climb wherever you throw. And after all, in Russia they are squeezing Russians out of the market. Such stories are a dime a dozen. Let them figure it out among themselves.
    1. vindigo
      vindigo 26 July 2020 12: 50 New
      +8
      Our Armenians try to hire Russian women as sellers. Otherwise, no one will buy. Now the people are looking at this maneuver of glades and look at which individual entrepreneur this outlet belongs to.
      1. bulava
        bulava 26 July 2020 22: 37 New
        -3
        Where do you have it? In Baku or on a farm near Lvov?
        1. vindigo
          vindigo 26 July 2020 22: 38 New
          +3
          Novorossiysk city
          1. bulava
            bulava 26 July 2020 23: 16 New
            -3
            Come on tell tales. I've been to Novorossiysk. There is no such thing. People of different nationalities trade, just like they buy! Let me remind you that we have an article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for inciting ethnic hatred and insulting on a national basis. If you are from the Russian Federation in fact, of course.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 27 July 2020 12: 57 New
              +6
              And what is criminal in the commentary? I'll tell you another case, as I already wrote - it was during the qualifiers for football, when Russia and Armenia played in the same group - a match in Krasnodar at the Kuban stadium, Armenians from nearby villages and cities, with Armenian flags (almost all citizens Russia), in an organized manner, in groups they came to the match and were rooting ... you can guess for which team? And you still dare to reproach with nationalism? This is what a terry domestic nationalism is. So I wanted to send everyone to Yerevan by pencil and charters. Here they would shriek: "Wai wai, what are the nationalists doing." Have you seen Russian weddings with shooting and dancing on the highway? In my opinion, it is necessary to send the group once so that the rest will understand that the jokes are over. Look at the cars of Armenians in Russia? Which country flags on the bumpers? Armenia. And they are all citizens of Russia, and far from being poor. Is this not nationalism? If you love Armenia so much, then go ahead, go there and live.
              1. bulava
                bulava 27 July 2020 13: 50 New
                -2
                My friends live in a European country. Citizens already. The Russians themselves. So, when the Russian national team played there, they came to support it at the stadium, not the hosts. They also celebrate May 9, as it should be with us. Although this country does not celebrate. And what do you call it? Nationalism too? I think that you mix sour with insipid, or you just envy that the Armenians are so enterprising, active, they have money and connections. Yes, in fact, like most visitors to Russia. Everyone has a diaspora, connections, pride in their historical homeland. Everyone is working, trying to live well. Let them live. Russia is hospitable. But when it comes to geopolitical issues, you need to be tough and consistent. Hear it on your nose that our base does not protect Armenians, but above all, you and me!
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 28 July 2020 12: 47 New
                  +4
                  How many friends do you have that rooted for Russia? 10-20? And here hundreds and thousands, I repeat, ORGANIZED !! Diaspora ... For the Armenian Church of Armavir, would you like to tell when a memorial plaque was installed on its territory in memory of Nzhdeh? When the Russian deputy tried to remove it (as in memory of a Nazi lackey), so the whole, ABSOLUTELY entire Diaspora of Armavir took up arms against him. Is it an entrepreneurial spirit, to put up signs and defend them with a vicious roar, installed in honor of the Nazi lackey? Tell this to your friends in Europe.
                  For weddings they did not answer, literally that week there was again, REGULAR report from a Caucasian wedding in Moscow, and an Armenian one. We stopped the motorcade led by Bentley (another cheap show-off) on the avenue and began to dance. This is nationalism, on the drum that they are on the territory of another subculture of living with their own way of life, the main thing is their show-off (in this case, Armenian) with spit on the law. This is nationalism.
                  1. bulava
                    bulava 28 July 2020 12: 58 New
                    -3
                    Listen, there are many such examples for all Caucasians who live in Moscow. Weddings, lezginka, shooting. Well, there are people there who are not entirely civilized, but there are many doctors, scientists, businessmen, artists and just adequate educated people among Armenians and Azerbaijanis (I know such people personally). Yes, the Russians are not like that (although why not remember the adventures of Russian fans in France?). But, again, they dance lezginka and shoot in the street, largely because we allow them to. This worries me more. We need to be more united, more serious, stronger. If, of course, we consider ourselves the masters of our land. And order must be demanded from everyone, regardless of nationality and religion. But finally understand that I am not interested in these particulars. The main thing is that the base in Gyumri was created, first of all, to protect the Russian Federation. It is in our interests to gain a foothold in the Caucasus so that all this NATO camadrille does not go beyond Turkey.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 30 July 2020 01: 47 New
                      +2
                      For the fans - this is when a few dozen piled two hundred English fans who gobbled up whiskey and beer, and beguiled the shore? And why not remember about Warsaw when they tried to humiliate our tourists, including women? That's right, let's allow. Do you know why? Because if someone says a word against, then the entire diaspora, on command, raises a howl: "Wai wai, the nationalists are depriving them of sight." I gave an example of Armavir.
                      1. bulava
                        bulava 30 July 2020 10: 11 New
                        -1
                        You are right that this is inappropriate in Russia. Although he fought for the Russian Empire in WWI, but then ... But on the other hand, there is a monument to Mamed Emin Rasulzade in Baku, and they respect him no worse than Nzhdeh. Read about it at your leisure. And in Russia there are monuments to Heydar Aliyev. Let me just remind you that it was under his rule that Russia was forced to close the border with Azerbaijan. Need to tell why?
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 31 July 2020 15: 38 New
                        +2
                        Heydar Aliyev, Major General of the KGB and Deputy Chairman of the USSR Council of Ministers. Didn't work for the Germans. What kind of Azerbaijanis erect monuments at HIMSELF? This is purely their business. And the memorial plaque to Nzhdeh in Russia, in Armavir, which was under occupation for several months, whose inhabitants died at the front. Can you catch the difference? Why didn't they put a sign in Armenia? Another cheap Armenian nationalist show-off, for which you just need to deprive of Russian citizenship and property earned here. And send it to Pashinyan.
                      3. bulava
                        bulava 31 July 2020 16: 01 New
                        0
                        This is how I write: You are right that this is inappropriate on the territory of Russia.
          2. Russian Central Asian
            Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 47 New
            +1
            I fully support, all words in the topic
  • Poetry
    Poetry 26 July 2020 09: 07 New
    +3
    The most cunning of the Armenians?
    This is Kolka Pashinyan.
    He makes so many body movements that he risks deceiving himself.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 26 July 2020 09: 12 New
    0
    Not only Azerbaijan is actively cooperating with Turkey.
    Russia also cooperates with Turkey.
    Russia is in principle inclined towards cooperation.
    The Russian Federation cooperates even with countries that can be regarded not even as opponents, but as real enemies.
    And in this conflict, in the foreseeable future, there will be no real solution.
    Only frosts and periodic exacerbations.
  • buzzy
    buzzy 26 July 2020 09: 16 New
    +2
    As soon as the heat reaches its climax, we are waiting for American advisers and instructors in Nagorno-Karabakh. Any point on the Earth near the border of the Russian Federation, where military clashes take place, is an ideal springboard in order to continue to nag Russia.
  • sanya
    sanya 26 July 2020 09: 23 New
    +4
    I commented earlier
    Let them fight
    Help no one, especially the Armenians (unique Russophobes)
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 26 July 2020 12: 39 New
      -4
      "especially the Armenians (unique russophobes)" in fairness: Shaumyan, Mikoyan, Baghramyan, and how many Armenians received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union? I remember from school, in "Pionerskaya Pravda" there was a note: "The Golden Stars of Armenia" and there were portraits of the Armenian Heroes of the Soviet Union. If I am not mistaken there were 102 of them.
      R.
      S.
      Imagine a picture: they will look at Vika and proudly write: "Astra, the title of Hero of the Soviet Union received: 10? Armenians", but can you remember without Vika? And hardly
      1. sanya
        sanya 26 July 2020 13: 08 New
        +3
        Continue reading "pioneer truth" there are still many good things to write about the great friendship of international peoples who are one big Soviet people :)))))
        1. VIP
          VIP 27 July 2020 16: 00 New
          0
          I also read "Pionerskaya Pravda". She, like our childhood, is no longer there
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 53 New
        0
        And who, last year, stabbed a Russian specialist guy who returned from Syria, and before that beat two more Russian men half to death? Baghramyan, Mikoyan, Kamo, Isakov, and so on - these were completely different people at another time. Now both times and people have changed a lot. And you shouldn't hide behind those people now.
    2. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 23: 20 New
      -3
      something doesn't fit. The "unique Russophobes" did not have pogroms and did not expel the Russians in the early 1990s, the "unique Russophobes" use the Russian language, all the signs are duplicated in Russian, the "unique Russophobes" prefer to live and do business in Russia, full of mixed marriages with Russians, and in Kubania "unique Russophobes" in the third generation do not even speak Armenian. Unlike.
      So, Sanya, you are wrong with the forum. You to Zelensky on Facebook or to Trump on Twitter.
      1. sanya
        sanya 26 July 2020 23: 31 New
        +2
        What are you talking about ?!
        There have been no Russians in Armenia for a very long time ...
        And the fact that in the Kuban the signs are still in Russian and Armenians sometimes take Russian women as their wives, well, yes, this is a huge favor :)))))))
        1. bulava
          bulava 26 July 2020 23: 47 New
          -3
          Not certainly in that way. During the Soviet era, there were Russians at most 4% of the total population, in contrast to 18% in Azerbaijan. And now it is 0,4% in Armenia and 0,7% in Azerbaijan.
          1. sanya
            sanya 27 July 2020 00: 24 New
            +3
            What a joy ....
            These 0.4 are slaves and wives and soldiers
            Why is this clowning?
            Why is it suddenly necessary to fight for Armenians with Azerbaijanis and Turks ?!
            Let them fight themselves
            1. bulava
              bulava 27 July 2020 09: 30 New
              -1
              You don't have to fight. So far, everything can be solved by diplomatic methods.
              1. sanya
                sanya 27 July 2020 10: 06 New
                +2
                This is a rhetorical question.
                What does it mean to solve?
                The conflict will not disappear anywhere and will constantly attract external players with murky goals
                The main question is: Why does Russia need this poor and hostile Armenia?
                It's the same with Azerbaijan, but these at least give any income and do not ask to eat
                In a place of influence in this region, Russia with such allies as the Armenians itself fell into dependence ...
                I hope so you understand?
                1. bulava
                  bulava 27 July 2020 10: 56 New
                  -2
                  What evidence is there that Armenia is hostile?
                  1. sanya
                    sanya 27 July 2020 11: 29 New
                    +1
                    They put the CSTO chairman in jail :)))))
                    Few?
                    Russian television banned
                    Few?
                    They conduct anti-Russian propaganda at the state level
                    Few?
                    Trying to sell themselves to the USA
                    And what is the use of them for Russia and the Russians, dear?
                    1. bulava
                      bulava 27 July 2020 11: 59 New
                      -4
                      You have not confused countries, dear?))))
                      1. sanya
                        sanya 27 July 2020 12: 04 New
                        +3
                        This is along the way you beguiled
                        I speak from the point of view of Russia's interests
                        So you have no answer to the question why this Armenia is Russia.
                      2. bulava
                        bulava 27 July 2020 12: 22 New
                        -1
                        Sanya, why did the USSR need all the republics? And what about the Russian Empire? You have a philistine way of thinking. Now you don't need Armenia, but tomorrow you will say that you don't need Abkhazia, Chechnya, Tatarstan. Smart people created a great empire, collected bit by bit, built. All these territories are watered with Russian blood and are needed so that you can drink coffee in your cozy apartment in Khimki and write comments here.
                      3. sanya
                        sanya 27 July 2020 13: 56 New
                        +1
                        Everything is there in Russia and no Armenia is needed
                        Abkhazia, the territory bordering Sochi, is of little importance, but in principle, the security of Sochi can be ensured without creating a pseudo clown state
                        Do you really need Tajikistan?
                        What for?
                        Marazmatians from the Politburo reasoned that way when they brought the army into Afghanistan ... We must protect the Central Asians :))
                        And there will be no end
                        But in fact, Russia does not need Tajikistani with Uzbekistan got rid of them and forgot
                        And Armenia is not needed and Georgia is there
                        And Azerbaijan there too
                      4. bulava
                        bulava 27 July 2020 14: 12 New
                        0
                        Everything is clear with you. Go to the Yeltsin Center, gain strength.
                      5. sanya
                        sanya 27 July 2020 14: 17 New
                        -1
                        Go to the mausoleum, pray to the mummy
                        Are you able to clearly and clearly explain what interests Russia has to feed Armenia and fight for the Armenians of their wars?
                        If not, then you can not answer
                      6. bulava
                        bulava 27 July 2020 15: 17 New
                        0
                        Sanya, what interests does Russia have to fight in Syria with which there are no common borders? Well, think for yourself, twirl the globe, read history textbooks ...
                      7. sanya
                        sanya 27 July 2020 19: 52 New
                        0
                        Are you Armenian?
                        No need to answer a question
                        First you need to answer and then ask questions
                      8. bulava
                        bulava 27 July 2020 22: 04 New
                        -1
                        Are you sure Sanya? Not Alik?
                      9. sanya
                        sanya 28 July 2020 07: 21 New
                        +2
                        Exactly Armenian
                        Answers exclusively with a question to a question :))
                2. VIP
                  VIP 27 July 2020 16: 15 New
                  0
                  Why not that the "mummy" gave us a wonderful childhood?
                3. sanya
                  sanya 27 July 2020 19: 53 New
                  0
                  In the world of shadows?
  • Russian Central Asian
    Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 14: 56 New
    0
    And even better -TYABami, well, that would be guaranteed not to be dissatisfied)))
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 26 July 2020 09: 38 New
    +3
    Blaming Russia for its blunders is a typical policy for many.
    1. the finish
      the finish 26 July 2020 10: 28 New
      -1
      All the above comments, from the point of view of Armenians and Azerbaijanis, are changed to Ukrainians and Russians and to Ukraine and Russia, and to Crimea and Donbass. Admire your health in the mirror! Maybe Belarus will not be smart enough!
      1. sanya
        sanya 26 July 2020 13: 12 New
        +3
        And it is necessary to comment only from the point of view and based on the interests of the Russians
        And based on Russian interests, neither one nor the other is needed and it is not necessary to help any of them, not during the war, or before or after ...
        They want to buy weapons, well, let them buy for cash
        They want a Russian base and protection - you have to pay, but it's very expensive
  • sevtrash
    sevtrash 26 July 2020 10: 10 New
    +2
    It's high time to close the base. Let them deal with their national megalomania.
    And those who want to fight - send everyone, without them it will be calmer, and the crime will be less
    1. bulava
      bulava 27 July 2020 12: 26 New
      0
      Seryozha, you need to go to some talk show in a tolerant Europe with such statements. Seryozha, who is for the closure of military bases and world peace. You can also take the Ukrainian flag with you. You will be appreciated there.
  • Doctor
    Doctor 26 July 2020 10: 16 New
    +8
    How can one imagine the market of any European country without traders from Azerbaijan? Well, they know how to trade better than others. And they love to do it. How to imagine the construction market without Armenians?

    Easy. Any Belarusian fair and Belarus in general.
    You will not be spoiled at Batianka's ... am
  • Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 26 July 2020 10: 28 New
    -10
    Hmm ... Judging by the post and comments, another kidok of the brotherly Christian people is expected. Well, the Armenians, decide your questions yourself, the Azerbaijani loot is more important for Russia. Only the Armenians will solve the problems, but Russia is unlikely to like it, NATO and the United States are rapidly building bases.
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 26 July 2020 14: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Judging by the post and comments, another kidka of the brotherly Christian people is expected.

      Well, they don't consider Russians to be brothers, they are rather high-class people at the expense of which one can profit. Let them solve their problems at someone else's expense.
      Among those close in mentality were Ukrainians (except for Westerners) and Belarusians. They have already broken the pots with the Ukrainians, but not yet with the Belarusians. But the Americans are not asleep, they will contribute to the break there too. In Russia, it looks like the heirs of the KGB were insignificant. With the exception of protection, of course, this is their new and main direction.
      1. bulava
        bulava 27 July 2020 12: 29 New
        0
        Who are they"? As in any nation, there are some. But most of them understand that Russia has always been and will be their main partner. Not Turkey, not Europe, not Iran. Do you want to get out of there? Well, we have already lost Ukraine, "thanks" to people like you. For you, judging by everyone, the brothers are sitting in Brussels or Washington ...
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 15: 01 New
        0
        Forget about the Deep Drilling Office. The fundamental role in the formation of the mentality of our zero-based residents was played by the St. Petersburg mayor's office in the times of Sobchak.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 26 July 2020 10: 54 New
    +3
    The author, regarding the "pistol", I do not quite agree: "in case of not understanding any of the parties to the conflict, can it use it as an instrument of pacification" and become a party to the conflict with all the ensuing consequences? I hope you're kidding?
  • fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 26 July 2020 10: 55 New
    -1
    note how the bots actively support Russia's non-interference in this conflict, they want the war to start there.
  • Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 26 July 2020 11: 03 New
    -1
    In my opinion, this whole situation is the result of Pashinyan's provocation. The goal is clear. If Russia stands up for Armenia, it will completely ruin relations with Turkey, Azerbaijan, and possibly even Iran, which of course will play into the hands of the United States. If he remains neutral, he will play this card to finish off the remnants of the pro-Russian opposition. Under the slogan "Russia has betrayed us." As for the military base in Gyumri, in my opinion it should become an object of bargaining with Turkey and Azerbaijan. And as a result, its elimination.
    1. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 35 New
      -4
      Quote: Gunter Preen
      As for the military base in Gyumri, in my opinion it should become an object of bargaining with Turkey and Azerbaijan. And as a result, its elimination.


      Except as a betrayal, this cannot be called. Are you even aware of what you write? Maybe you will still have Sevastopol a subject of bargaining?
      1. Gunter prereen
        Gunter prereen 27 July 2020 09: 16 New
        +3
        I give it back. Armenia is a geopolitical weight for Russia. Strategically, the base in Tartus is much more important. And where does Sevastopol have to do with it? This is a Russian city. Unlike Gyumri.
        1. bulava
          bulava 27 July 2020 12: 32 New
          0
          We had two characters in our history who got rid of "weights". We ran to the white house on a barbecue, danced there on the lawn, generously accepted "gifts" in the form of chicken legs and loans. Now we are forced to disentangle this weakness and short-sightedness. And I would like all sorts of squishies not to interfere with the building of the Great Strong Russia!
          1. Russian Central Asian
            Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 15: 05 New
            0
            And where did you observe the builders and the very construction of the Great Strong Russia? Please share. I'll run away too I'll see
            1. bulava
              bulava 27 July 2020 15: 23 New
              +1
              no need to look - you need to take part in it!
              1. Russian Central Asian
                Russian Central Asian 28 July 2020 01: 16 New
                -1
                Yes, I would gladly accept, I generally, as the saying goes: For any, you boil, acre hunger strike. But damn it, where is all this wonderful movement happening?
          2. Gunter prereen
            Gunter prereen 27 July 2020 20: 23 New
            +1
            Time of cynical and pragmatic politics. Although, whatever you (in a broad sense) say, Pashinyan will fulfill his task.
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  • Fon elia
    Fon elia 26 July 2020 11: 14 New
    -2
    Russia is directly related to this conflict. In 1828, after the signing of the Turkmenchay agreement with Persia. These territories came under the jurisdiction of Russia. And in order to dilute the demography of the Caucasus, the resettlement of Christians to these lands began. Mostly Armenians. In the Erivan, Nakhchivan and Karabakh khanates. Where 90% of the population were ethnic Turks. And this process continued until the end of the USSR.
    T. Ch. Russia is directly responsible for this conflict. And history has shown that separately, these two countries cannot live in friendship. Only in a single state can this problem be calmed. And Turkey plays an important role. Which is now on the rise.
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  • Vestnik
    Vestnik 26 July 2020 11: 18 New
    +5
    Let them fight a little, so to speak, let off steam and calm down again .. It is unlikely that it will come to a serious conflict. And then the Armenians have already started to become impudent and began to spit on Russia.
  • VIP
    VIP 26 July 2020 11: 31 New
    +5
    Quote: ssergey1978
    Write nonsense. Gone are the days when the army came to an open field. There are Americans in Georgia, well, they will be in Armenia, so what?

    Have you forgotten how the "marked" troops were withdrawn from the GDR?
  • iouris
    iouris 26 July 2020 11: 51 New
    +1
    How was the "neutrality" of the Moscow authorities and the National Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs achieved?
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 26 July 2020 12: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: ssergey1978
    Write nonsense. Gone are the days when the army came to an open field. There are Americans in Georgia, well, they will be in Armenia, so what?

    And nothing good. Then let's withdraw from Kazakhstan, close the base in Syria, is this the way it turns out according to your logic? And then wake up to simmer with righteous anger that NATO has completely overlaid Russia
  • nnz226
    nnz226 26 July 2020 12: 21 New
    +6
    Russia - what ?! Should have rolled one of the sides? Or both sides? With the disappearance of the belligerent countries, the war ends by itself ...
    1. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 15: 31 New
      0
      I definitely like your idea of ​​rolling both sides. There is a healthy and rational grain in it. Perhaps this is not politically correct at the present time, but for that it is extremely effective. And if you do it with the help of TNS, then it is also effective.
  • vindigo
    vindigo 26 July 2020 12: 43 New
    +8
    Funny article. I will not say anything about Azerbaijanis. I did not meet with them, I did not see them on the market either. About the Armenians laying asphalt - nonsense. They are traders. I do not know what they are building there, but in our city the Armenians have a reputation as swindlers, and in the construction sector too. They are not brothers to the Russians. It is not necessary to intercede that for that, that for that side. We need to sell weapons and various supplies to both sides. As during the Iran-Iraq war. Refugees are not allowed. And so there are Armenians here in the Krasnodar Territory. Or send them to Chechnya and to other "fraternal" Armenians. To cousins)). Those who like to send the Russian army to the aid of the Armenians, let them volunteer there to fight at their own expense. And let them take the inkwells with them. They are loved there. And close the base in Armenia. Why is she needed there?
  • Vladimir-78
    Vladimir-78 26 July 2020 13: 15 New
    +7
    It seems to me that it is high time in such conflicts to look after ONLY their interests, both political and financial. We won't be good for everyone. The stance of the "old fox" Francois Mitterrand during the Falklands confrontation is memorable. When he was caught by the hand that France was selling "exosets" to the Argentines and ship missiles to the British, they began to "conscience". He said that I have the interests of my country and the rest does not really bother me. And they all wore off.
  • BAI
    BAI 26 July 2020 13: 15 New
    +2
    We respect both peoples, but we will not take the side of one of them.

    We will support those who recognize Crimea as Russian.
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  • Dormidontych
    Dormidontych 26 July 2020 13: 27 New
    10
    By the way, Azerbaijani traders and Armenian workers are a long outdated cliché. For the last decades I have seen around Azerbaijan workers - concrete workers, carpenters, even saw plumbers. No, there are also Azeri traders, but there are also workers. But the Armenians are, without exception, frostbitten majors on expensive foreign cars, the kids of Armenian bandits. From the latter: one Armenian started shooting in a large shopping center full of visitors (Tyumen). He saw such, he says, a terrible person that he simply could not resist shooting, wah! Then the brother of this shooter committed an armed robbery of a bank. When there was a discussion of this criminal family on social networks, other Armenians began to threaten members who evaluated this family as bandits. This was all last year. Well, in this, the third Armenian slammed, thank God, the first one who started shooting in the shopping center. One less Armenian bandit ... https://www.yaplakal.com/forum1/topic2069990.html
    1. Russian Central Asian
      Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 15: 43 New
      0
      It seems that the Russians in the Russian Federation can only hope that all sorts of national groups will shoot each other themselves. There is no hope for the policemen, and there is little to establish order in themselves.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 26 July 2020 13: 45 New
    +7

    On January 8, 1977, at 17:33, a bomb exploded in a Moscow metro car on the stage between the Izmailovskaya and Pervomaiskaya stations. At 18:05, an explosion occurred in the trading floor of grocery store No. 15 on Dzerzhinsky Street (now Bolshaya Lubyanka), not far from the building of the KGB of the USSR. The third explosion, 18:10, occurred near grocery store No. 5 on 25 October Street (now Nikolskaya). As a result of these attacks, 7 people were killed (all during the first explosion in the subway), 37 were injured.
    According to the investigation, Stepan Zatikyan was the main organizer and leader of the attacks, Stepanyan and Baghdasaryan were their direct executors.
    During interrogations, Stepanyan and Baghdasaryan stated that they were intimidated by Zatikyan, who, while in prison, "moved" on the idea of ​​nationalism and insisted that the Russians should be punished for oppressing the Armenians. Despite the fact that, first in the 19th century, Tsarist Russia, and in 1920, Soviet Russia actually twice saved the Armenians from the Turkish genocide, Zakityan and others like them considered Russia a source of oppression for the Armenian people and considered it possible to arrange explosions, killing ordinary Russian people.
    1. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 41 New
      -7
      Have you already given new training manuals there in Kiev? Promptly!
    2. VIP
      VIP 28 July 2020 16: 11 New
      +2
      I remember, I remember this incident. The godfather was driving that day and was wounded by glass
  • Old26
    Old26 26 July 2020 13: 46 New
    +4
    Quote: depressant
    Therefore, my opinion is this: at the slightest attempt to "excite" on our territory - deportation without the right to return

    In 9 cases out of 10, these individuals are citizens of Russia. The second may be Armenia, but it is unlikely that it will be possible to deport Russian citizens ...

    Quote: VIP
    Armenians "who love to lay asphalt" - the author obviously drank too much

    In Soviet times, there were brigades of Armenian shabashniki building objects in the villages. Now everyone is laying asphalt (or tiles). Sometimes "international brigades".

    Quote: Nehist
    If they are citizens of Russia, then let them live according to the laws of Russia and be assembled

    And somewhere in the laws, in the Constitution, for example, it is written that they must be assimilated? My ancestors lived in the North Caucasus for almost 200 years. And among the ancestors there are Ossetians, Bulgarians, and Armenians. On the part of the wife, there are also Greeks. And all the diasporas, in one way or another, become part of the life of the region where they live. But preserving their past, their traditions and customs. Among the diasporas there are no those who can be attributed to "Ivans who do not remember kinship." And they live according to the laws of Russia. And clashes in the same bazaars - they were, are and will be. And no one will solve this problem by deportation.

    Quote: georgiigennadievitch
    A long time ago (in 1991) I had to feel the "love" of Caucasians for Russia.

    In those years, this applied not only to Russians fleeing from Transcaucasia. The same Azerbaijanis found themselves in the position of outcasts on their own territory and were forced to flee, since many of them had Russian wives or even Armenian women. And they were given conditions - either leave your wife and leave, or ... Many preferred to leave their homes and flee their families to Russia. Nationalism in those years went off scale. And no one even tried to look for the deep reasons. It was already too late and the maximum that remained was to evacuate ...

    Quote: Paranoid50
    Only for some reason the fact is not taken into account that in the overwhelming majority of cases these "citizenships", residence permits and registrations are stupidly bought.

    The overwhelming majority of members of the diaspora live in some places of residence at times more than many of the Russians who came there. Sometimes for centuries.
    No, of course there are those who simply buy citizenship, no one argues here, but the basis of the diasporas in a particular locality has been living there for a very, very long time. Take the same Rostov-on-Don and its area known as Nakhchivan? How old is this area? Since the 19th century, ESNIP has settled there.
    But what distinguishes such diasporas is cohesion and mutual assistance, which unfortunately the Russians lack

    Quote: depressant
    Author!!!
    Let the Russians be given the most favorable treatment for obtaining Russian passports! Since 92, some Russians from Abkhazia, decent, decent people who know professions in demand, have not been able to obtain citizenship! When this issue is resolved, then we will talk about humanity and legality.

    But with obtaining citizenship - I agree with you at all 1000%. For our laws sometimes reach insanity. Let me give you an example. At one time, my daughter received her first passport. She has school and I have a vacation. And I decided to help by doing preliminary work (submitting documents, obtaining signatures, etc.). The daughter was born in the last year of the Union's existence. Therefore, the birth certificate was also unionized. I've heard a lot in the queue. Up to really insanity. The young family inherited an apartment and a house from their deceased relatives, decided to sell them plus their apartment and buy a large house. They were born in the city, and their daughter was born in the city. so that there was permission - it was necessary to obtain a certificate from the passport office that their daughter was a citizen of the Russian Federation. Certificate for a three-year-old child born in this city, whose parents are citizens of the Russian Federation. So insanity in its purest form. Therefore, the priority for Russians to obtain Russian citizenship - I agree with you here ...
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 26 July 2020 14: 22 New
    +1
    How can one imagine the market of any European country without traders from Azerbaijan? Well, they know how to trade better than others. And they love to do it. How to imagine the construction market without Armenians? Those very teams that work from dawn to dusk at construction sites? Those who lay asphalt on our roads in any heat. They also know how and love to do this.

    Oh really??? Don't tell my slippers !!!
    Neither one nor the other CAN trade, they cannot AT ALL. They know how to PENDER the junk that they pass off as a product. In any market, with ordinary civilized trade, ALL these traders are ALWAYS losers because their task is not to trade in quality goods, but to sell the rubbish that they want to exchange for money.
    I can't speak about the construction sites of the above characters without swear words. Everything is fucking blooper, even the season can not stand. But they "know how" to give the bureaucrat a kickback and get the same road to their "repair" for the next season.
    It is simply surprising that this "analyst" did not give out a "brilliant" phrase: Without these "hardworking" workers, how would the Russian economy be preserved ???
    But for me this is: If there were no one or the other in our state, then life would be much calmer and much less criminal.
    1. Naprolom
      Naprolom 26 July 2020 15: 32 New
      0
      For your information, crime has no nationality.
      Well, the fact that they are in love with this question to the Ministry of Internal Affairs
      They just know how to work.
      1. Gloomy skeptic
        Gloomy skeptic 27 July 2020 03: 49 New
        +2
        They just know how to work.

        "They" are who? Judging by the "prosperity" of their so-called states, do you really think so or have heard / seen enough "jellyfish" ???
      2. Russian Central Asian
        Russian Central Asian 27 July 2020 15: 57 New
        +1
        Crime also has a nationality. Any opera, sledak and even a district police officer will confirm this to you. It's just that in modern Russia it's forbidden to talk about this - our government is very afraid of offending brothers in reason.))))
      3. DeKo
        DeKo 28 July 2020 07: 47 New
        +1
        The Azerbaijani organized criminal group is the largest in Russia. Armenian in third place. Are there Russian organized crime groups in Baku or Yerevan?
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 26 July 2020 15: 09 New
    +2
    For now, law enforcement officers in these countries can control the mood in the diasporas and stop conflicts in time.

    Misconception. If in France and the USA these diasporas will not be buzzed (there is a strict and less corrupt law enforcement system than in the Russian Federation), then in Moscow (and in other cities with a population of over one million) a massacre between the diasporas is quite possible ...
    Take Moscow, for example. All the police, this is a limit who came to work in Moscow from the nearest regions and they do not care about this city, representatives of the diasporas also have a limit, and most of them with foreign passports and they also do not care about Moscow and they are not afraid of the Moscow police, tk. know that the latter do not care about Moscow and the showdown between the diasporas, Moscow officials, for the most part, do not care about Moscow either, they don’t care about the Moscow police, they don’t care about the diasporas, they don’t care only about the bribes they receive from these diasporas, but they receive bribes. not for the settlement of interethnic conflicts between the diasporas in Moscow, but for non-interference in the diaspora business ...
    So, the victims will be representatives of the belligerent diasporas, as well as residents of Moscow (indigenous and limited) ...
    We respect both peoples, but we will not take the side of one of them. Which makes the Armenians angry enough. The media remind us every day of the Russian military base in Armenia, of membership in the CSTO, of "traditional friendship", immediately forgetting about the anti-Russian rhetoric of recent days.

    Well, our Foreign Minister is Armenian, so the Russian Federation must ensure the security of Armenia until 2044, regardless of what attitude Armenians will have to the Russian Federation ...
    From Wiki:
    According to the Russian Embassy in Armenia, no more than 8 thousand Russians live in the republic (about 0.25% of the RA population).

    The largest ground group of the RF Armed Forces abroad provides security for 8 Russians.
    Is it not cheap to bring these Russians to Russia and provide them with housing? How to stand in a camp of armed prisoners of war surrounded by hostile states for Armenia, besides receiving spitting from the guarded ones?
    1. bulava
      bulava 26 July 2020 22: 14 New
      -3
      What are you doing here with such defeatism? One drunk has already led the group ...
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 26 July 2020 22: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: bulava
        What are you doing here with such defeatism? One drunk has already led the group ...

        I am stating fait accompli and not yet facts ...
        Luzhkov warmed up the diaspora from the Soviet republics in his time ...
        The entire law enforcement system and officials work, not for salary, but it is one thing to "protect" business, and another thing to "settle" interethnic conflicts ...
        The most important thing is, no matter which side the Russian Federation would not bend, it will always be guilty of this conflict and in the eyes of the "fraternal" Armenian people and about the Turkish Azerbaijani ...
        One drunk has already led the group ...

        What are you speaking about?
        1. bulava
          bulava 26 July 2020 22: 26 New
          -1
          This is not so much a conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia as another attempt by some of our "partners" to find our weak point. If today we do not take a firm position, then tomorrow we can lose not only Armenia, but also Transnistria, Ossetia, Donbass ...
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 26 July 2020 22: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: bulava
            tomorrow we can lose not only Armenia, but also Transnistria, Ossetia, Donbass ...

            If the Russian Federation loses Armenia, then hardly anyone will pick it up ... She will still not be able to cover the Russian Federation from the South ... For this, the Russian Federation has a WB in Abkhazia and South Ossetia .... apparently even then, the Russian Federation knew about its coming to power Pashinyan (his analogue) and the desire of the Armenian people to join European values ​​...
            Transnistria can also be lost to the Russian Federation, but for objective reasons and for their own stupidity ... our units in the PMR are surrounded by hostile states, in addition, the Russian Federation has signed and ratified the Istanbul agreements on the withdrawal of its troops, incl. from the PMR, so that our units and units at any time may lose their peacekeeping status ... and will be outlawed there (PMR - the Russian Federation does not recognize) ...
            As for the RSO and the LPR, they ensure the security of the Russian Federation and are buffer states (state formations), respectively, will be under the constant protection of the Russian Federation, as well as on its content ...
            1. bulava
              bulava 26 July 2020 23: 27 New
              +1
              and where did you get the idea that the Armenian people decided to join "European values"? Maybe they suddenly have a border with the European Union? Or do Armenians massively work at construction sites in the Czech Republic and Poland? Or the European Union, which has problems above the roof, suddenly asked them to do no less than Russia did over the years? Pashinyan is in a party where there are paid Europars, yes, but he himself has made it clear to everyone many times that Russia is the main partner and that there will be no Ukrainian scenario, no matter how the Svidomo, the Turks and our "Western partners" scream.
  • Naprolom
    Naprolom 26 July 2020 15: 25 New
    -6
    Enough to carry all sorts of nonsense.
    Armenia did not become American.
    Then I saw a lot of bile.
    This is the only people who did not betray Russia in the Caucasus.
    Russia has nothing to do with it? The revolution that came from Russia and the burr that handed over Karabakh to Azerbaijan. Supplied Turkey with weapons in the hope that there would also be communism. But as soon as the Turks showed Kuzkin's mother to the British.
    Their second action was such that the saber of the leaders of the communists on one ship and by order of Ataturk drowned them in the sea. So the Armenians have questions for you. Another thing is that Russia acts everywhere like an elephant in a china shop.
    But one thing is for sure: all this stench is open here about the fact that Armenia has changed course to pro American
    Paul is nonsense. The people of Armenia will not allow this. Why did Armenia not recognize Crimea? It’s strange to hear this question. Why did Belarus not recognize it? And the main one is why did not Russia recognize Karabakh?
    Crimea returned home? And it became home for some 300 years. So Karabakh also returned home and he was Armenian for more than three hundred years.
    Another thing is that our government, through the lips of our talking head Zakharova, always expresses only concern.
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    2. Gar
      Gar 26 July 2020 17: 58 New
      -4
      .So Karabakh also returned home and he was Armenian for more than three hundred years.
      Well, if we consider the emergence of Armenia in the 6th century BC and the fall of Great Armenia in the 5th century AD, then it will be more.
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 26 July 2020 19: 11 New
      +3
      The opinion of the Armenian fascist is of course very interesting to us. By the way, I didn't tell you about it, Garegin Nzhdeh protests fiercely.
      1. bulava
        bulava 26 July 2020 22: 13 New
        -5
        Have you already packed the bacon? Are you ready to run through the mountains from our bullets?
        The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) oversees the participation of Ukrainian nationalists in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict on the side of Azerbaijan. This was announced at a briefing on July 24 by the official representative of the People's Militia (NM) of the unrecognized Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) Yakov Osadchy. The recording of the briefing is available on YouTube.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 26 July 2020 22: 46 New
          +2
          You haven't taken your pills again? And where only the orderlies look idlers.
          1. bulava
            bulava 26 July 2020 23: 31 New
            0
            you ask Zelensky on Facebook ...
    4. Imperial Technocrat
      Imperial Technocrat 26 July 2020 20: 48 New
      +3
      Armenians have to you questions

      Another thing is that our government through the mouth of our talking head Zakharova

      The officer's daughter, you are confused in the training manuals. Bakhni harylki, and run to Polish plantations
    5. Tank hard
      Tank hard 26 July 2020 23: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Naprolom
      So the Armenians have questions for you

      And this after what Russia and the Russians did for them ?! An original attempt to evoke sympathy. repeat
    6. DeKo
      DeKo 28 July 2020 07: 44 New
      0
      Uh, listen, yes. Can you write literate?
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  • SanSanych Gusev
    SanSanych Gusev 26 July 2020 17: 10 New
    +6
    Something I have never seen Armenians laying asphalt
    1. Crimean blogger
      Crimean blogger 26 July 2020 19: 25 New
      +6
      This is their topic. This is a very well-paid job for which they hire Tajiks and they themselves lead and they receive the lion's share of the money.
      1. bulava
        bulava 26 July 2020 23: 02 New
        +1
        and the customers of the works and controllers are Russian mayors and governors ... here it is not a question of nationality, but of corruption. And what does this have to do with the essence of the question. Or are you also from the camp of "troop withdrawals"?