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In Croatia: US loses control of Europe

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Even despite the threat of US sanctions, Europe is not ready to sacrifice its own interests to Atlantic unity. The time has come for Europeans to end their unconditional obedience to Washington.


The Croatian edition of Advance writes about this.

Relations between the United States and the European Union began to deteriorate four years ago with the coming to power in the States of Donald Trump. But it was not his policy that led to this cooling, but a whole complex of geopolitical factors.

In Croatia, they believe that one of the reasons was the strengthening of China's influence on the European continent, which by that time had become a major world leader with a powerful economy.

Of course, it is difficult for the United States to accept the loss of influence on Europe, but it is very difficult to return this continent to its orbit, since it does not meet the interests of the Europeans.

Previously, they submitted to Washington voluntarily, as it was beneficial to them. The Americans didn't even have to put pressure on them. Europe looked to the United States as a protection from the Soviet Union, and after the collapse of the USSR, by inertia, it continued to behave like a loyal vassal. China was generally not taken into account, because it was then a third world country.

But now economic cooperation with China has become, for Europe, probably no less important than the transatlantic partnership. The change in attitude is not hard to see. If in most cases Europe unconditionally supports anti-Russian sanctions, then it tries to stay away from the US-China trade war whenever possible. After all, the United States has ceased to be the unconditional world leader.

Europeans are now more independent than before. They are gradually leaving the US sphere of influence, pursuing an increasingly independent policy based on their own benefit. In fact, the Europeans have previously obeyed throughout the United States only because then it was beneficial to them. Now Europe is not ready to limit itself to one “main partner”.

The future will show which path the European countries will take. Perhaps they will pursue a completely independent policy. Or maybe they just change one owner to another.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 23 July 2020 16: 38 New
    +9
    Maybe someone will stop obeying the owner because of the ocean, but we all perfectly understand that there will be countries that will ALWAYS be under states. And everyone perfectly understands which countries we are talking about.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 23 July 2020 16: 49 New
      15
      Quote: Magic Archer
      ... but we all perfectly understand that there will be countries that will ALWAYS be under states.

      It is these countries that will be the first to sell the States as soon as it becomes profitable for them.
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 July 2020 18: 16 New
        +3
        Here, as always, a double-edged sword, who will betray whom and faster ...
    2. Vestnik
      Vestnik 23 July 2020 16: 57 New
      15
      USA loses control of Europe

      And not only over Europe! Who is the main culprit? A brilliant job was done .. Do you remember Putin's statement that the world should be multipolar? ”They also laughed at him, as if an upstart and Russia should know its place, etc.
      Here are some interesting things to start .. Whether there will be more!
      1. dauria
        dauria 23 July 2020 17: 27 New
        -5
        Who is the main culprit? A brilliant job has been done


        Just don't drag Putin into this work. laughing The people of China have done everything with the short-sighted policy of the United States in 30 years. ... The Anglo-Saxon slogan "Equality on the mainland" played a cruel joke on him for the second time. The first time they helped Hitler to become on a par with France. The second time - they raised the enemy against the USSR, but they missed the moment. Now they are scratching their turnips and picking up cannon fodder against China.
        1. halpat
          halpat 23 July 2020 17: 56 New
          13
          Quote: dauria
          Who is the main culprit? A brilliant job has been done


          Just don't drag Putin into this work. laughing The people of China have done everything with the short-sighted policy of the United States in 30 years. ... The Anglo-Saxon slogan "Equality on the mainland" played a cruel joke on him for the second time. The first time they helped Hitler to become on a par with France. The second time - they raised the enemy against the USSR, but they missed the moment. Now they are scratching their turnips and picking up cannon fodder against China.

          It was Putin who formulated Russia's foreign policy position in Munich. And not only Russia, to be honest. He plucked up the courage to speak on behalf of the BRICS at that time.
          The rest, including China, contentedly and quietly "puffed into a rag", while experiencing a whole gamut of different feelings, but all with a fig in their pockets against the United States and in general against the domination of the collective West in the world.
          Let me remind you that the EU then also became insolent and began to send its commissions / delegations to South America to test democracy, so to speak. Until he received a harsh shock either in Peru or in Chile, when they (the Europeans) were suddenly told: Who are you, then? By what right are you going to tell us how to live?
          Much water has flowed under the bridge since then. The BRICS practically collapsed, thanks to the active opposition of the Americans, first of all - they famously removed Dilma Rousseff from the distance.
          And a couple of staunch "fighters" were forged - Russia and China. India and ours and yours bye.
          China grew thanks to the United States and, again, in contrast to Russia, this was done. I am sure that the Americans took into account many factors in this movement: from industriousness, discipline and the incredibly low material needs of the population of communist China (for a bowl of rice the mountains are rolled up) to the historical and political features of the development of the PRC: from the opium wars and colonial dependence to hostile relations with the USSR.
          China turned out to be wiser and in general completely different than it seemed to the cowboys. And thank God!
          Now it is the turn of the EU to decide. And this is also not bad for Russia, because the vector is correct.
          Here is my opinion :) about this :))
          1. Vestnik
            Vestnik 23 July 2020 18: 49 New
            +4
            Quote: Halpat
            It was Putin who formulated Russia's foreign policy position in Munich. And not only Russia, to be honest. He plucked up the courage to speak on behalf of the BRICS at that time.
            The rest, including China, contentedly and quietly "puffed into a rag", while experiencing a whole gamut of different feelings, but all with a fig in their pockets against the United States and in general against the domination of the collective West in the world.

            Many now screamers have forgotten about it .. It was then that the bookmark for the "hegemon" was laid, which we now observe .. The work was carried out titanic, on the verge of a blade.
            But it turned out Dmitry !!!!
            Quote: Halpat
            Here is my opinion :) about this :))

            Excellent comment by Dim! good
          2. Dmitry10SPb
            Dmitry10SPb 24 July 2020 18: 03 New
            0
            Who paid for the banquet? What was the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the euro then, and what is it now? What were the prices in the store then and what are they now? Do you know, for example, how much apples are now in the nearest store? Any banal Golden?
            And let's not think of China as our SENIOR partner. He has his own interests. We're just being used. Lazy and careless.
        2. Vestnik
          Vestnik 23 July 2020 17: 57 New
          +5
          Quote: dauria
          Just don't drag Putin into this work. laughing The people of China have done everything with the short-sighted policy of the United States for 30 years.

          You are categorically wrong ..
          By the way, without Russia, China would have been ripped off like sticky, now this is the United States
          They are engaged in hard work, but Russia does not give .. China, of course, is great in the economy and production, but in politics they are too timid and in their own minds .. Everyone is waiting for the corpse of the enemy to float past the river, but the chaitrup does not speak or do not know yet. .)))
          1. Sergey39
            Sergey39 23 July 2020 19: 06 New
            -1
            Quote: Vestnik
            By the way, without Russia, China would have been ripped off like sticky a long time ago,

            And the Chinese know about it. It remains to wait for the recognition of Crimea by China.
            1. Vestnik
              Vestnik 23 July 2020 19: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: Sergey39
              And the Chinese know about it. It remains to wait for the recognition of Crimea by China.

              Crimea is ours! And in principle Russia does not need any confessions .. Let it remain on their conscience, they are afraid of the United States and others .. WE DO NOT!
          2. And Makarov
            And Makarov 24 July 2020 07: 07 New
            13
            Quote: Vestnik
            China, of course, is great in the economy and production, but in politics they are too timid and in their own minds .. Everyone is waiting for the corpse of the enemy to float past the river, but whose corpse is not said or not yet known ..

            They know whose corpse. Only because of fearfulness they can not wait.
            1. Vestnik
              Vestnik 24 July 2020 17: 04 New
              -3
              Quote: A Makarov
              They know whose corpse. Only because of fearfulness they can not wait.

              They know and wait, but this is a very dangerous path if you sit and wait .. They can come up from behind and fuck on the head and become a corpse yourself laughing
              What the United States is now trying to do
          3. Dmitry10SPb
            Dmitry10SPb 24 July 2020 18: 13 New
            0
            In terms of the size of the economy, it is like two elephants and a hedgehog. The hedgehog is, of course, the most powerful animal in the forest. But very, very light. Think, please, what external initiatives of the president ensured the growth of living standards of Russians. In addition to setting gas prices to Ukraine more than Germany and Britain, I don’t remember. Is he busy with that?
            1. Vestnik
              Vestnik 24 July 2020 18: 37 New
              -5
              Quote: Dmitry10SPb
              Think, please, what external initiatives of the president ensured the growth of living standards of Russians. In addition to setting gas prices to Ukraine more than Germany and Britain, I don’t remember. Is he busy with that?

              The Army and the Navy are reviving, Crimea returned, the United States was sent away, Kreisky bankers were dispersed in the 2000s.
              Now the Constitution has been made such that Russian law prevails on international double standards .. Well, I also like how the Libere public fights in hysteria and epilepsy and cannot do anything ..
              These are the things in the Komsomol! laughing
        3. Clear
          Clear 23 July 2020 18: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: dauria
          The people of China have done everything with the short-sighted policy of the United States in 30 years.

          Is it strange that the US pumping money into the Chinese economy turns out to be a short-sighted policy? Well, maybe. It turns out they deceived themselves.
          1. dauria
            dauria 23 July 2020 18: 41 New
            +2
            Is it strange that the US pumping money into the Chinese economy turns out to be a short-sighted policy? Well, maybe. It turns out they deceived themselves.

            That's all right. They deceived themselves. They did not switch from supporting China to supporting Russia in time. The basis of their diplomacy is that equal countries will never become allies. A true military alliance is a strong master and a weak servant forced into an alliance. And equals can only tear the third together, trying to put all the work on the partner, and then devour him too.
            Look at the triangle England, France, Germany. Their wars. And everything will fall into place.
      2. Sergey39
        Sergey39 23 July 2020 18: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Vestnik
        A brilliant job has been done ..

        And what is most important - no large-scale military operations, no loud statements, ultimatums and sudden movements. Directly the principle of aikido.
        1. Vestnik
          Vestnik 23 July 2020 18: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: Sergey39
          Quote: Vestnik
          A brilliant job has been done ..

          And what is most important - no large-scale military operations, no loud statements, ultimatums and sudden movements. Directly the principle of aikido.

          Exactly Sergey, for this he is hated and such an op is in the "world media")))
          The risky man is still our head of state ... He took a chance and it turned out like!
          Well, I think he has many more surprises for EVERYONE. hi
          May God grant him health and patience ..
          PS Well, the shooting was loud and loud all over the world, when they unexpectedly transferred troops to Syria to help the already actually surrounded Damascus .. ) ..And the United States, etc., chewed snot when their subjects were cut in the video ..
          These are the things in counterintelligence ..
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 23 July 2020 17: 05 New
      +8
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And everyone perfectly understands which countries we are talking about.

      These countries once swore to the Union of eternal loyalty and love, and the States were watered worse than Russia is now.
      1. Clear
        Clear 23 July 2020 17: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Magic Archer
        And everyone perfectly understands which countries we are talking about.

        These countries once swore to the Union of eternal loyalty and love, and the States were watered worse than Russia is now.

        Do you hint at the low social responsibility of these countries? lol
        1. Andobor
          Andobor 23 July 2020 18: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: Clear
          Do you hint at the low social responsibility of these countries?

          Yes, Europeans have a slave nature already at the genetic level - several generations have grown up during the occupation, - the occupiers only change sometimes. - Therefore, the question at the end of the article can be said to have already been resolved, - we only have to choose the sphere of influence .. They will not give us everything, and we won’t pull anything.
          1. Vestnik
            Vestnik 23 July 2020 19: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: Andobor
            Yes, Europeans have a slave nature already at the genetic level - several generations have grown up during the occupation, - the occupiers only change sometimes.

            How boldly you expressed yourself and in fact you are absolutely right! Everything is just like that ..
            Soon another hybrid occupation by Arabs, etc. And they will scream in their language laughing
    4. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 23 July 2020 17: 11 New
      +3
      Europe is already devoid of its own dignity. She is only sometimes allowed to blather at the owner in order to release steam and keep a good mine.
    5. Clear
      Clear 23 July 2020 18: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Maybe someone will stop obeying the owner because of the ocean, but we all perfectly understand that there will be countries that will ALWAYS be under states. And everyone perfectly understands which countries we are talking about.

      Vladimir, what are these? Canada, England and ...?
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 23 July 2020 18: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Magic Archer
        Maybe someone will stop obeying the owner because of the ocean, but we all perfectly understand that there will be countries that will ALWAYS be under states. And everyone perfectly understands which countries we are talking about.

        Vladimir, what are these? Canada, England and ...?

        I'm afraid that Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Georgia
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 23 July 2020 20: 17 New
      +1
      To call them countries is an insult to real countries.
  2. Pereira
    Pereira 23 July 2020 16: 41 New
    +4
    Has the fighting hamster rebelled?
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 23 July 2020 16: 58 New
    +6
    Until the United States began to forcibly force the EU to buy gas, weapons, apply sanctions to its own allies for cooperating with the wrong ones, everything was fine. It's just that political military dependence slowly began to turn into economic slavery .......... ........
    1. cniza
      cniza 23 July 2020 18: 13 New
      +4
      Europe is occupied by the United States, what else to say ...
  4. AB
    AB 23 July 2020 17: 11 New
    +4
    Writes about this Croatian edition of Advance

    They also write a lot on the fence ... Croatia is now such a country independent from the United States. President Donya is crying because one of his loyal vassals is crawling towards China. Yes, the States wanted to shit all over Europe. It will be necessary to shout and the whole of Geyropa will stretch out to line and by typing a step will go in the direction where America will point. There are no politicians with iron eggs in Europe.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 23 July 2020 17: 54 New
      +1
      All true, but in the states, too, not. There is no one there to shout to now.
    2. cniza
      cniza 23 July 2020 18: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: AB
      It will be necessary to shout and the whole of Geyropa will stretch out to line and by typing a step will go in the direction where America will point. There are no politicians with iron eggs in Europe.


      So far, just like that, and there we will look ...
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 23 July 2020 17: 14 New
    +1
    They milked the mattresses all over Europe, and are unlikely to loosen their grip!
    1. Clear
      Clear 23 July 2020 17: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      They milked the mattresses all over Europe, and are unlikely to loosen their grip!

      So if "milked", so why keep that? Maybe for meat?
    2. cniza
      cniza 23 July 2020 18: 12 New
      +2
      Rather strangle ...
  6. boris epstein
    boris epstein 23 July 2020 17: 16 New
    +1
    While Western Europe is in debt like silk according to the Marshall plan, the United States will be able to put it in a knee-elbow position. The USSR invented a plan for itself to attack Western Europe, they themselves created first Bizonia (unification of the zones of occupation of the United States and Great Britain), then Trizonia (annexed zone of occupation of France) and they themselves were scared of the plan. And they created NATO. And NATO is an instrument of US influence on Western Europe. How many US military bases are there now? There is no USSR, the Warsaw Pact has been liquidated. Now the raison d'être of NATO is an arms race with Russia. And this is also very expensive for Western Europe, since the USSR also proposed to create a pan-European anti-missile umbrella and withdraw US bases from Europe.
  7. Maks1995
    Maks1995 23 July 2020 17: 24 New
    +1
    And, like they write about 15 years.
    Economy = influence. Not all opinions
  8. cniza
    cniza 23 July 2020 18: 09 New
    +3
    The future will show which path the European countries will take. Perhaps they will pursue a completely independent policy. Or maybe they just change one owner to another.


    The United States will not leave them so easily, it can break such firewood ...
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 23 July 2020 18: 29 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      USA won't leave them so easily

      Yes, but it's not the same.
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 July 2020 18: 30 New
        +3
        Naturally not that, but for the arrangement of the crisis it is quite something ...
  9. orionvitt
    orionvitt 23 July 2020 18: 59 New
    +1
    Perhaps they will pursue a completely independent policy.
    The statement is very controversial. Few people can afford such the luxury of pursuing an independent policy. In Europe, there are very few of them.
    Or maybe they just change one owner to another.
    But this is more than real for most European countries, which for some reason call themselves independent. They will quickly move to another bed to the next client.
  10. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 23 July 2020 20: 10 New
    +2
    Zagreb, July 21 / Xinhua / - Croatian Prime Minister Andrei Plenkovic announced today that Croatia will receive more than € 22 billion / $ 25,2 billion / from the European Union as part of a deal to recover from the COVID-19 epidemic, which was concluded following the four-day EU summit in Brussels. It is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/europe/44543648/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

    Why not lick the funding ....
    I think this is not the last article by the Croatian media ...
  11. Tank hard
    Tank hard 23 July 2020 21: 52 New
    0
    Europeans are now more independent than before. They are gradually leaving the US sphere of influence, pursuing an increasingly independent policy based on their own benefit. In fact, the Europeans have previously obeyed throughout the United States only because then it was beneficial to them. Now Europe is not ready to limit itself to one “main partner”.

    Those. now the "Europeans" are ready to "six" the Chinese, do I understand correctly? wink "Independent" Europeans. laughing
  12. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 24 July 2020 06: 03 New
    0
    I hope Russia won't feed them.
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 July 2020 08: 45 New
    0
    For Europe, a buffer from a land war with someone - the Russian Federation from the sea - the Fleet of Britain, France, Italy. Therefore, there are no military threats yet.
  14. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 24 July 2020 18: 34 New
    0
    [quote = Andobor] [quote = cniza] The USA won't leave them so easily [/ quote]
    [Quote]
    Those. now the "Europeans" are ready to "six" the Chinese, do I understand correctly? wink "Independent" Europeans. laughing[/ Quote]

    Why six to China?
    Partnerships are okay.

    In principle, Europe is still gearing against the United States, but before the states were motivated by the carrot and the carrot, but now there is no money for the carrot, more and more sticks are being used. Nevertheless, nothing has changed. Europe continues to be six in the states, the only displeased grumbling appeared.

    The entire top in the EU is Euro-Atlanticists, with rare exceptions that spread rot as marginals.
    Do they want independence from the United States - by no means.
    They hate Trump and kick him in every way, not because he limits the independence of the EU, but because he does not deepen or develop this "Euro-Atlanticism."
    Who will be on top in such a Euro-Atlantic alliance, of course, the states, not occupied Europe.
    The top of the EU wants the states to "love" them hard-hard, but there were a lot of gingerbread. If the states want to get rid of the EU sixes, they need to not just let them go, but kick them at gunpoint.