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First French-designed FPB 98 MKI patrol boats laid down in Ukraine

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First French-designed FPB 98 MKI patrol boats laid down in Ukraine

The first French patrol boats FPB 98 MKI were laid down in Ukraine. The ceremony took place on Wednesday, July 22, at the Nikolaev shipyard "Nibulon". This was stated by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov.


Today we are laying down the first patrol boats for the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine. A contract was signed with the French company OCEA

- Avakov said at the laying ceremony.

According to the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, the French company chose the Nibulon plant to build its boats on the basis of its "high professionalism and competence."


(...) I can honestly say that these ships of ours will be called "ships of the OCEA-Nibulon company". (...) Ukraine will receive modern ships to protect the state border, will receive modern technologies in the construction of ships. Which in the future will allow us to independently service ships and develop our own production

- emphasized Avakov.

We will remind that earlier the Ukrainian government approved the purchase of 20 French patrol boats. The signed contract provides for the construction of 20 FPB 98 MKI boats for the State Border Service of Ukraine within three years. At the same time, a quarter of the total number of boats (five units - approx.) Will be built at the Nibulon plant in Nikolaev.


The FPB 98 MKI is said to be a 32 meter long light aluminum patrol boat that reaches speeds of up to 30 knots with a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles. The boat has a shallow draft for sailing in shallow water. Ukraine intends to use these boats to guard the state border, monitor and control, as well as to conduct search and rescue operations and counter sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the enemy.

Each vessel will be equipped with modern optoelectronic surveillance systems, RIB boats for observation groups of border guards, as well as Ukrainian-made weapons: an artillery mount and machine guns. What exactly is not reported.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 23 July 2020 08: 49 New
    +5
    Well, as they say: a small ship - a small voyage and half a foot under the keel.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 23 July 2020 08: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Pereira
      Well, as they say: a small ship - a small voyage and half a foot under the keel.

      laughing or better a half a kilogram of TNT, or what Mina repeat
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 23 July 2020 08: 55 New
        11
        The first patrol boats were laid in Ukraine ...

        To the pawnshop? laughing
      2. Pavel73
        Pavel73 23 July 2020 09: 05 New
        +3
        Yes. We deserved it, alas.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Hunter 2
        or better a half a kilogram of TNT, or what Mina

        The burst of their 12,7 mm machine gun under the waterline, and ... blast, blast - "Mayday" Mayday !!! "
        1. halpat
          halpat 23 July 2020 09: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Hunter 2
          or better a half a kilogram of TNT, or what Mina

          The burst of their 12,7 mm machine gun under the waterline, and ... blast, blast - "Mayday" Mayday !!! "

          well, what "mayday" ??
          Retrieve your tone !!! in the local dialect :)) will be.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Halpat
            well, what "mayday" ??
            Retrieve your tone !!! in the local dialect :)) will be.

            Excuse Trochs I forgot that on Shumoflot the English language is not understood.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 23 July 2020 12: 30 New
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Excuse Trochi I forgot that on Shumoflot the English language is not understood

              On the "shumovlot", everyone must know. How will they carry out the hosts' commands? However, it is not necessary to know the language completely. The dog knows a dozen commands and has enough.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 July 2020 13: 00 New
                +1
                Quote: orionvitt
                On the "shumovlot", everyone must know. How will they carry out the hosts' commands?

                And like this
              2. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 24 July 2020 21: 36 New
                0
                Quote: orionvitt
                The dog knows a dozen commands and has enough.

                Do not offend a person's friends! They are disinterestedly friends with Man ....... Svido Shumflot for pennies - dollars!
      4. Vlad T
        Vlad T 23 July 2020 12: 18 New
        -9
        A bad peace is better than a good war, especially with a neighbor. Look for ways to reconciliation ... The enemies (especially the United States) are making efforts to play off Russia and Ukraine, so why go on about the enemies ...
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 24 July 2020 21: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Vlad T
          A bad peace is better than a good war, especially with a neighbor. Search for ways to reconciliation ...

          Better ... But when the hand of friendship stretched out by Russia is vilely crap and spit. Then, sorry, sorry ...
          1. Vlad T
            Vlad T 24 July 2020 21: 45 New
            0
            Where were all our services and ministries for all 30 years, during which Ukraine was reforged into an anti-Russian one - they pushed oil and gas at inflated prices and counted the loot with Tymoshenko for a couple ... But the rest does not give a damn ... so that in the confrontation between Russia and Ukraine, the Semites of Kiev and the Kremlin robbed states without worry, distracting the peoples to internecine enmity ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 23 July 2020 08: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: Pereira
      to a small ship, a small voyage and half a foot under the keel.

      no I wish all Ukrainian Navy maneuver "overkill"with unlimited water mass above it ...
      1. Stas Sv
        Stas Sv 23 July 2020 19: 45 New
        -2
        Sorry, I disagree with you.
    3. Eldorado
      Eldorado 23 July 2020 09: 32 New
      +3
      Seven mines under the keel!
    4. Eldorado
      Eldorado 23 July 2020 09: 34 New
      +2
      I wonder if this is their answer to our common ship-laying day?
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Pereira
      Well, as they say: a small ship - a small voyage and half a foot under the keel.

      And Joyful meetings on the shore!
    7. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 23 July 2020 13: 17 New
      +1
      Well, as they say: a small ship - a small voyage and half a foot under the keel.


      Will you, for June 2018, 72 boats were delivered to Suriname, Nigeria and even the Philippines! And now they will put it on Ukraine. Tse peremoga.
    8. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 23 July 2020 19: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      half a foot under the keel.

      Above deck.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 23 July 2020 08: 57 New
    +1
    Yes, yes, I remember how they promised to "sink the aggressor's fleet" with such ships laughing while calling all boats a mosquito fleet but modestly keeping silent about the lack of missile weapons! Ay bayus bayus lol
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 09: 15 New
      -9
      Do you think that it is impossible to integrate missile weapons into a patrol boat? At least a couple of ATGMs?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 23 July 2020 09: 32 New
        +3
        You can think of a lot of things. Again, buy a license from Americans for such a device.
        I swam quickly, bumped and drifted. Terrible weapon.

      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 July 2020 09: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        Do you think that it is impossible to integrate missile weapons into a patrol boat? At least a couple of ATGMs?

        And who, with the ATGM, to attack? Anyway, who will let this tub at such a distance?

        You Jews are used to measuring everything by the level of Arab terrorists, but the Russian Black Sea Fleet is far from them lol .

        But the Outskirts, with the Arabs in terms of equipment (and habits) is quite comparable.
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 09: 46 New
          -9
          To attack with ATGM, at least go to the same patrol boats. Or do you think that no one will let the Ukrainian boats on 5 km (this is the firing range of the Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM)? Moreover, you can integrate something more.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 July 2020 09: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            To attack with ATGM, at least go to the same patrol boats. Or do you think that no one will let the Ukrainian boats on 5 km (this is the firing range of the Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM)?

            When will they "go on the attack"? After the outbreak of the war, and when will they and their bases simply cease to exist?
            And yes, let this moment find a couple of such boats in the sea, and they even lucky to send a boat of the same type to the bottom ...

            WHAT WILL IT CHANGE EVENTUALLY FOR THE OUTSIDE? SHO? PEREMOGAbelay ?

            And ATGM what ... And the pitching?
            1. Zeev
              Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 10: 13 New
              -5

              And ATGM what ... And the pitching?

              https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/6273.html
              How it works for us.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 July 2020 10: 17 New
                +3
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/6273.html
                How it works for us.

                This is all particular.
                The only important thing is how such boats, EVEN with ATGM (!!!) will affect the course of the war with the "Akhressor", about which they are so screaming in the non-independent ...

                I repeat - Russia is not Arabs, neither by power, not by mentality no
                1. Zeev
                  Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 13: 20 New
                  -4
                  The question was about how the pitching will affect the ATGM firing? Will not affect in any way, with proper integration on the platform.
                  Anything can influence the course of a war.
                  1. Brturin
                    Brturin 23 July 2020 14: 42 New
                    +1
                    Quote: ZeevZeev
                    The question was about how the pitching will affect the ATGM firing? Will not affect in any way, with proper integration on the platform.

                    It is a platform, of course, but what kind of "pitching" the boat itself can withstand - "The boat has a shallow draft for sailing in shallow water." Here about the previous ones - "But these are ships, the series of which began in 1981 with a displacement of 57 tons with a draft of 1,2 meters, that is, we were sold the next punt"
                    1. Zeev
                      Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 15: 06 New
                      -2
                      Well, "SuperYards" are also not heavy cruisers. Displacement 58-75 tons, draft 1.4 meters
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 July 2020 12: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: Insurgent
              When will they "go on the attack"?

              What a war, what a reversal. A class of caters, designed for border guarding and fighting poachers, as well as for landing spies and terrorists. In any case, in case of any mess, they are destroyed immediately. Example 2008 Georgia.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 56 New
            0
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            Or do you think that no one will let the Ukrainian boats on 5 km (this is the firing range of the Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM)?

            They will let them in if the crews of these boats do not develop the Deurea epidemic.
            1. Zeev
              Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 13: 24 New
              -4
              That when trying to break through the Kerch Strait, the crews of Ukrainian boats did not develop anything. And it was not so easy to take them.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 July 2020 13: 36 New
                +2
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                That when trying to break through the Kerch Strait, the crews of Ukrainian boats did not develop anything.

                You miss, it is because of diarrhea on Ukrainian boats in the Kerch Strait that all the toilets fell apart.
              2. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 July 2020 14: 06 New
                +4
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                when trying to break through the Kerch Strait, the crews of Ukrainian boats did not develop anything.

                Did not have time yes
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                And it was not so easy to take them.

                STE, finally MASTERPIECE about the power of ukrokrigsmarine good
                1. Zeev
                  Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 15: 03 New
                  -4
                  What power? Two boats and a tug against ... How many Russian ships were there?
              3. Rzzz
                Rzzz 23 July 2020 16: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                And it was not so easy to take them.

                They didn't want to shoot.
                On these pelvis you will thrust several 30-mm shells, there you will not do without corpses.
                1. Zeev
                  Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 16: 47 New
                  -1
                  And a hole in the wheelhouse of one of the boats appeared by itself. In addition, if the Ukrainian sailors were such cowards, they would be shitty from being shot in the air, they would drift and surrender. But that did not happen. Don't underestimate your opponent.
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 23 July 2020 16: 58 New
                    -1
                    The hole there is clearly not from 30mm.
                    1. Marconi41
                      Marconi41 23 July 2020 19: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: rzzz
                      The hole there is clearly not from 30mm.

                      Why do you think so. The network has a full video of our border guards shooting at violating ships. Take a look and compare.
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 23 July 2020 09: 47 New
        0
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        Do you think that it is impossible to integrate missile weapons into a patrol boat? At least a couple of ATGMs?

        They will take on board a couple of RPG-7s, so there will be a couple of ATGMs. laughing
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 10: 04 New
          -4
          No matter how they put "Stugna" or "Skif" on board. Against the boats of the border service of Ukraine's potential enemy on the Black Sea, it is quite enough
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 July 2020 10: 44 New
            +5
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            No matter how they put "Stugna" or "Skif" on board. Against the boats of the border service of Ukraine's potential enemy on the Black Sea, it is quite enough

            For Bobik (Outskirts) to finally die - this (armed conflict with the Russian border service) is quite enough yes

            Again ,Zeev zeev, I remind you that such "butting" (they shot and spread) like you and the Arabs will not be able to ride near the outskirts of the Russian Federation no

            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 23 July 2020 11: 37 New
              +3
              Insurgent Today, 10:44 AM NEW
              Once again, ZeevZeev, I remind you that such "butting" (shooting and spreading) like you and the Arabs, will not be rolled out from the Russian Federation near the Outskirts
              good good good And that's it! Blown away by ZeevZeev, laughing laughing laughing
            2. Zeev
              Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 13: 15 New
              -4
              Who else, if not you, knows that dreams (about a dead bobby) and reality are incompatible things. About six years ago, many in Donetsk and Lugansk, and even in the Russian Federation, were convinced that "Ukraine no longer exists," "the cowardly dill are running," "Novorossia from Donetsk to Tiraspol," etc. etc. In fact, Ukraine is standing, the LDNR is still not recognized by anyone, and the borders of these formations are much more modest in June 2014. And what is the reason is not important, the main thing is that the widely advertised dreams were shattered when faced with reality. In this case, too, the Russian government will not go to a full-scale war even with Ukraine. Even if there is a direct confrontation and even if there are victims. The Su-24 shot down by the Turks is a good proof of this.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 July 2020 14: 04 New
                +3
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                Who else, if not you, knows that dreams (about a dead bobby) and reality are incompatible things.

                Between dreams и predictable expectations(quite reasonable in relation to the outskirts), do not you find the difference?
                Time - yes, it drags on yes but works, and works for us yes
                1. Zeev
                  Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 15: 04 New
                  -2
                  Yes Yes. 6 years time drags on and works. The question is who it works for.
      4. orionvitt
        orionvitt 23 July 2020 12: 33 New
        +1
        Patrol boats, for that and patrol, which are only suitable against poachers and small smugglers. Against even the smallest, but the navy, these are just targets.
  3. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 23 July 2020 09: 02 New
    +2
    it's time for the great power of the Sumerians))) to build boats of the far sea zone of increased ice class))) to protect interests in the Arctic and Antarctica ... but short trips under the bridge are not quoted ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 23 July 2020 09: 22 New
      +1
      Here you are laughing, soon their "admirals" will not say so ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 40 New
      0
      Quote: silberwolf88
      it's time for the great power of the Sumerians))) to build boats of the far sea zone of increased ice class))) to protect interests in the Arctic and Antarctic

      So far, they are mastering their territory.
  4. Zeev
    Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 09: 12 New
    -6
    The Ukrainians took the idea of ​​a "mosquito fleet" seriously. So far, the number of patrol and border boats is increasing, gaining experience in use. I wonder what will happen next? A pair of Neptune anti-ship missiles for each patrol boat, or will they finish the project of Lan missile boats?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      A pair of Neptune anti-ship missiles for each patrol boat, or will they finish the project of Lan missile boats?

      I think this weapon is more preferable, and the "ship" won't turn over when fired, and it's cheaper.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 23 July 2020 09: 50 New
      +1
      Farther?
      I would suggest that they build large, non-self-propelled, unsinkable barges with hulls like a honeycomb. I pulled it out into the sea with an ordinary tug, threw it and shot at all sides.
      1. Zeev
        Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 10: 01 New
        -4
        The Ukrainians are unlikely to develop such an option. But they are quite capable of creating a grouping of missile boats with a pair of support and target designation vessels.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 23 July 2020 10: 07 New
          +3
          And what tasks will this flock of Tabaki solve? Capture fishing vessels? Yes, you can plant a dozen Pikines in the yard instead of a dog. Well, they can bark loudly. Will they be able to guard the house?
          1. Zeev
            Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 10: 17 New
            -4
            And what tasks were solved, for example, by torpedo boats during the Second World War, except for the direct torpedo attacks (of which there were not so many)? Patrolling, support for the landing, the landing of sabotage groups, the fight against light enemy forces. In addition, such a flock can fire a salvo of a couple of dozen anti-ship missiles.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 23 July 2020 11: 22 New
              +4
              1. In those days there were no helicopters with locators.
              2. The task of landing troops on the territory of the Russian Federation is hardly facing the UkroVMF. They first need to repair the landing ship.
              3. Deploy a covertly sabotage group? I don’t know, I’m not sure that they will not be spotted yet in their territorial waters.
              What remains is the capture of fishing vessels.
              1. Zeev
                Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 12: 17 New
                -3
                1. If there are helicopters, then why do the Russian Navy and the border service have patrol boats?
                2. In addition to the Russian Federation, there is also the DPR. It is quite an idea to land troops near your border to stop the supply of weapons and reinforcements, or to create a foothold in some port.
                3. For guaranteed detection you need either a continuous radar field or airborne radar aircraft. And constantly.
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 23 July 2020 14: 13 New
                  +4
                  1. Inspection of ships. A year ago, the puppies were screeching to the skies.
                  2. They already broke through with tanks in '14. This is called the Izvarinsky boiler. Read it. Everything was bigger there. It would be nice to repeat.
                  3. The radar field must be. A helicopter is faster than a boat. Will have time to get up and catch up.

                  And we will also see how these boats will sail to the Sea of ​​Azov.
    3. Stena
      Stena 23 July 2020 14: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      I wonder what will happen next?

      Previously, boats (armor) were ordered at their factories (for example, "Leninskaya Kuznya").
      Now - bought from foreigners. This is obvious progress!
      Quote: ZeevZeev
      Ukrainians have seriously approached the idea of ​​a "mosquito fleet"

      By the way, do not remind me, what did the valiant Jews do with the mosquito fleet of Egypt, after the sinking of the destroyer Eilat?
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 July 2020 09: 13 New
    +2
    that the FPB 98 MKI is a 32 meter long light aluminum patrol boat that can reach speeds of up to 30 knots with a cruising range of 1200 nautical miles. The boat has a shallow draft for sailing in shallow water.
    Now they will shit on Azov, play catch-up until they get it on the forehead, once again. There is hope, while they leave the stocks, Nenka will scatter across the farms. The land admiral will die on land. repeat
    1. cniza
      cniza 23 July 2020 09: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      There is hope, while they leave the stocks, Nenka will scatter across the farms. The land admiral will die on land. repeat


      And without any help from outside, they just need not be disturbed ...
  6. cniza
    cniza 23 July 2020 09: 19 New
    +3
    According to the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, the French company chose the Nibulon plant to build its boats on the basis of its "high professionalism and competence."


    Let's find out their opinion in half a year ...
  7. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 23 July 2020 09: 22 New
    -2
    They will drive Moldavians along estuaries.
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 24 New
    +2
    ...) I can honestly say that these our ships will be called "ships of the OCEA-Nibulon company". (...) Ukraine will receive modern ships to protect the state border, will receive modern technologies in the construction of ships. Which in the future will allow us to independently service ships and develop our own production
    - emphasized Avakov.

    What an honor ??? The newly sluggish state had the most powerful shipbuilding industry and design bureaus in the USSR, and here already some kind of boat patrollers cannot create, but the great sailors of the French do it.
    And how nice it is to read in the previous article on VO The project 22160 corvette "Pavel Derzhavin" has entered sea trials. This is both a Russian development and a Russian building, it is not a shame to look into the eyes of your people and the whole world.
    But isn't Avakov ashamed to say "... I can say with honor" and also accept American scrap metal with honor. It is an honor when a country and its people create themselves in their factories, and not "American and French bowlers lick."
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 09: 33 New
      -5
      The cruiser Varyag was laid down in 1898.

      On October 31, 1899, the cruiser was launched from the stocks into the water.

      Construction was carried out in Philadelphia at the William Cramp and Sons shipyards, and in 1900 the ship was transferred to the Russian Navy, and in 1901 she entered service. "
      You don't want to say that the Russian Empire had no honor, like its sailors?
      1. BAI
        BAI 23 July 2020 09: 45 New
        +1
        The Varyag had big problems with its design and machines. Already discussed on "VO". It turned out not to be the best ship.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: BAI
          The Varyag had big problems with its design and machines. Already discussed on "VO". It turned out not to be the best ship.

          The ships can be the worst or the best, but the Russian sailor fought on any, and was the best.
          Or maybe they forgot how the steamer "Alexander Sibiryakov", having on board two 76-mm anti-aircraft guns, entered into battle with the cruiser "Admiral Scheer", which has 6 guns of 283 mm caliber, 8 guns - 150 mm, 6 guns - 105 mm, and two 533 mm four-tube torpedo tubes. Nevertheless, the Sibiryakov opened fire on the enemy. Can anyone remember something like this in all the world's fleets, and at all times?
      2. Livonetc
        Livonetc 23 July 2020 09: 48 New
        +3
        There were classic problems.
        Since the time of Peter the Great, there have been no technical problems with shipbuilding in Russia.
        However, there were widespread corruption problems.
        And then good warships were built in Russia.
        However, their cost for the treasury often exceeded all conceivable limits.
        Therefore, they were often ordered abroad at a fixed price.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Livonetc
          However, their cost for the treasury often exceeded all conceivable limits.

          One example. Before the WWII "Gangut" was at the state shipyard, and "Empress Maria" at the commercial one. The cost is "one to two".
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 23 July 2020 09: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        What an honor ??? The newly sluggish state had the most powerful shipbuilding industry and design bureaus in the USSR, and here already some kind of boat patrollers cannot create, but the great sailors of the French do it.

        Quote: ZeevZeev
        You don't want to say that the Russian Empire had no honor, like its sailors?

        Do you think this is about the same thing? fool or just troll?
        "What are you, not Russian, or what?" (Film about a barrel of alcohol) repeat You are told that the Ruin had the capacity to build aircraft carriers and cannot now build a scow. recourse Russian Empire, in a short time it took to build dozens of ships. Can you tell the difference? By the way, do you only know the "Cruiser" Varyag "? I am glad, were ordered by E. battleships, cruisers of the 1st and 2nd rank.
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 10: 41 New
          -4
          I know that orders for ships were not limited to the Varyag. I gave him as an example.
          Now about the Ukrainian shipbuilding. And also about the "Varyag" (only this time an aircraft carrier). The construction of ships of this class is not only a shipyard in Nikolaev, but also dozens of related factories in a heap of countries left after the collapse of the USSR, trade relations with suppliers, a bunch of specialized research institutes and a customer in the form of the USSR Navy. In the absence of all this, the Nikolaev Shipyard cannot make aircraft carriers, and even the Varyag could not finish building (and for whom). For the civilian market, such specialized enterprises are also not very adapted, therefore it is quite expected that in the absence of work, the capacities become unusable, workers and engineers look for another job, and the shipyards themselves are slowly being sold due to unprofitability. So Ukraine has come to the conclusion that it can only repair civilian ships and build small boats.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          You are told that the Ruin had the capacity to build aircraft carriers and cannot now build a scow.

          The Soviet Union was building, but not Ukraine. Ukraine was only able to sell everything very quickly, and then began to shout - "good people help, they are robbing." It's a shame to listen and read trolls about the Ukroposhumerian fleet
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 23 July 2020 10: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            The Soviet Union was building, but not Ukraine.

            Who is talking about what they built? I spoke and I say "Had power"Do you feel the difference? request
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 July 2020 12: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              I spoke and say "I had the power", do you feel the difference?

              So I'm not talking about "power", but about who racked them.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 July 2020 10: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        You don't want to say that the Russian Empire had no honor, like its sailors?
        Cruiser Aurora". Manufacturer New Admiralty
        Construction began in September 1896. Launched on May 11 (24), 1900.
        The battleship "Gangut". Manufacturer Admiralty plant. Construction began on June 3 (16), 1909. Launched on October 7 (20), 1911.
        Should I continue or what ??? Otherwise, I can list everything until December 1991.
        Russia has always had the honor, has, and will have it!
      5. Cristall
        Cristall 23 July 2020 10: 29 New
        0
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        You don't want to say that the Russian Empire had no honor, like its sailors?

        From France we got the Tsarevich. His example is much better.
        Although I like Retvizan more.
        Yes, I ordered the RI / USSR / RF warships and vessels in other countries.
        From the last Mistral-FRantia.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 23 July 2020 09: 45 New
      +2
      Remind about the Mistral?
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 23 July 2020 09: 56 New
      -1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And how nice it is to read in the previous article on VO The project 22160 corvette "Pavel Derzhavin" has entered sea trials. This is both a Russian development and a Russian building, it is not a shame to look into the eyes of your people and the whole world.

      In the USSR, aircraft-carrying cruisers were built without much fanfare, and just in Nikolaev. Maybe in "Krasnaya Zvezda" such events as the commissioning of ships of the first rank and was honored with a note, but in "Pravda", or "Izvestia", or on central TV, nothing was finally published in this regard. And here is a corvette, well if the third rank, and then a great event. Shredded ...
  9. Pavel57
    Pavel57 23 July 2020 09: 39 New
    +1
    Yes, this is not Mistral. And what about the Nikolaev Design Bureau - forgot how to design ships?
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 09: 51 New
      -4
      Of course, I forgot how. Someone died, someone retired, someone quit in difficult years. And there are no new constructors.
  10. Alien From
    Alien From 23 July 2020 09: 41 New
    +1
    Now the frogs will find out what kind of friends they are ........
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 23 July 2020 16: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      what are their friends ........

      Not friends, but clients. Everything is extremely simple. There is money - there is a conversation. No money - just sympathize for free.
  11. Bykov.
    Bykov. 23 July 2020 09: 42 New
    +2
    And what about Avakov? Or is it the main beneficiary of this contract with the French?
    1. prior
      prior 23 July 2020 10: 27 New
      +2
      How and where? It’s his boys who will go on these boats for red mullet.
  12. BAI
    BAI 23 July 2020 09: 43 New
    +1
    Why is Avakov without Zelensky? Decided to show who is in charge here?
  13. Slon1978
    Slon1978 23 July 2020 09: 47 New
    +3
    With the involvement of the French, boats are being built in Ukraine "for obtaining modern shipbuilding technologies." They are not building an aircraft carrier, or a dock ship, or at least a corvette, but border boats - they are getting modern technologies :) We survived. It's probably better not to know about the price of these units :)
  14. Sentury
    Sentury 23 July 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    I wonder what has to do with the laying of the courts and the Minister of Internal Affairs Avakov? There are several options for who can open such things:
    1) If the project is commercial, then the managers of the enterprise and the customer;
    2) If the project is military, then military leaders or the SBU;
    3) If the project is highly economic or political, then the head of the country.
    4) If the project is money-cutting, then interested parties.
    Avakov should fall under one of the points, and maybe under several ... hmm
  15. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 23 July 2020 10: 17 New
    +5
    Well, there is no shipbuilding plant "Nibulon" in Nikolaev! And there is a grain trader "Nibulon", specializing in exporting Ukrainian grain abroad and buying up at a cheap price part of the ruins of the former ChSZ (Black Sea Shipyard, which once built world-famous ships, ships and aircraft carriers; "Kuznetsov" was created on it). Looks like the head of "Nibulon" Vadatursky (a great lover of swearing and throwing mobile phones at the wall) is haunted by the laurels of the great shipbuilder and reformer of the Great Ukrainian fleet ... laughing
    1. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 23 July 2020 11: 18 New
      -1
      They write that they recently assembled a self-propelled loader with a length of 140 meters and a carrying capacity of 10000 tons. Not weak, as for the "ruins" of the former Nikolaev shipbuilding plant "Liman".
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 23 July 2020 13: 05 New
        +1
        Well, yes, they bungled this loader. They specialize in grain handlers (after all, they export it by sea, and not all large-tonnage workers can fit) and yachts for the rich. The business with yachts was started by Timoshenko's admirer, the eternal candidate for mayor of Nikolaev, Isakov, and in 2012 the rich Buratino Vadatursky bought him from him. In general, this factory has a long, even pre-revolutionary history.
    2. CommanderDIVA
      CommanderDIVA 23 July 2020 13: 21 New
      +1
      I also thought about the grain company at first, a strange turn from the agricultural sector to the direction of karable construction
  16. mag nit
    mag nit 23 July 2020 10: 19 New
    +1
    Lightweight aluminum body? So this is a casserole dish.
  17. Irek
    Irek 23 July 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    They will swim for fishing, good boat.
  18. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 23 July 2020 10: 54 New
    +1
    Sabakov with his French kents continues to row the grandmother. What is most interesting, the boats will be assembled at a small private shipyard, and the huge factories of Kherson and Nikolaev are dying safely. Urya-urya, another pyrimoga))))
  19. Prisoner
    Prisoner 23 July 2020 11: 20 New
    +1
    Where did they put it? To the pawnshop? what
  20. Greyhound famously
    Greyhound famously 23 July 2020 12: 05 New
    +2
    Laying of ships in Ukraine - 5 boats with a displacement of 100 tons. Total 500 tons
    Single day of laying down of ships of the Russian Navy - 6 ships with a total displacement of 70 tons
    As the saying goes, feel the difference.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 23 July 2020 13: 19 New
      +2
      Laying of ships in Ukraine - 5 boats with a displacement of 100 tons. Total 500 tons
      Single day of laying down of ships of the Russian Navy - 6 ships with a total displacement of 70 tons
      As the saying goes, feel the difference.

      It's like fucking with a finger to compare.
  21. Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 July 2020 13: 20 New
    +3
    The first French patrol boats FPB 98 MKI were laid down in Ukraine. The ceremony took place on Wednesday, July 22, at the Nikolaev shipyard "Nibulon". This was stated by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov.
    Yes, this is not Kerch for you, with its laying of some helicopter carriers, you can feel the scale and grandeur ...
  22. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 23 July 2020 13: 26 New
    +1
    The State Border Guard Service of Ukraine is supervised by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the person of Avakov, by analogy with the countries of the European Union, the boats are good, just for the Azov shallow water, there, in my opinion, there used to be a sea border detachment in Berdyansk, the infrastructure is there, our sea border guard of the FSB of Russia is a worthy enemy, this is not "Yana Kapu "
  23. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 23 July 2020 13: 42 New
    0
    Na Ukraine zalozhili .. ruki.
  24. gfsoiu
    gfsoiu 23 July 2020 13: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Grizzly Dashing
    Laying of ships in Ukraine - 5 boats with a displacement of 100 tons. Total 500 tons
    Single day of laying down of ships of the Russian Navy - 6 ships with a total displacement of 70 tons
    As the saying goes, feel the difference.

    5 boats with a displacement of 100 tons will be accepted in two years, 6 ships with a total displacement of 70 tons, will be accepted in 000-10 years, as they say, feel the difference.
    1. Sergey Kulikov_3
      Sergey Kulikov_3 23 July 2020 14: 54 New
      +1
      We'll chew, we'll see how much and when they will take it.
      In general, the boat is not bad, not intended for wars, but as a pirate ship it is quite suitable for itself, if only the object of the attack was not armed with anything at all, otherwise one grenade in Poltava was enough to take a fat hostage with a car.
      1. Zeev
        Zeev zeev 23 July 2020 15: 11 New
        -2
        The fat hostage actually exchanged with his subordinate.
        1. Sergey Kulikov_3
          Sergey Kulikov_3 23 July 2020 15: 19 New
          0
          Does it change anything, except for the status of a "hostage"?
    2. Greyhound famously
      Greyhound famously 23 July 2020 15: 07 New
      0
      Quote: gfsoiu
      5 boats with a displacement of 100 tons will be accepted in two years, 6 ships with a total displacement of 70 tons, will be accepted in 000-10 years, as they say, feel the difference.


      Before launching, 4-5 years and several years for completion and testing, so in general, the timing is correct. But taking into account that the laying of such ships, as well as their acceptance into the fleet, takes place in the Russian Federation ANNUALLY, it is not clear why you actually have questions then?
      And the boats ... what about the boats? The Navy ("Rooks", "Raptors") and the FSB ("Mongoose", "Manatees", "Guysami") are already saturated with them in sufficient quantities. So again, it's not clear what is wrong with you?
  25. Vestnik
    Vestnik 23 July 2020 15: 28 New
    -1
    As I understand it, the designer from France will be assembled? Well, shameful ... But in the days of the USSR, frigates and aircraft carriers could build ..
  26. Ilya Nikitich
    Ilya Nikitich 23 July 2020 20: 28 New
    +1
    The first French-designed FPB 98 MKI patrol boats were laid down in Ukraine.
    But something went wrong ...

    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 24 July 2020 08: 48 New
      0
      Sorry, the video was not inserted. Link to video.

      https://twitter.com/VatnikVII/status/1286010889708212224
  27. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 23 July 2020 20: 42 New
    0
    And where is Avakov? Pre-election campaign started in Ukraine? Or is there a plug in every barrel?
  28. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 23 July 2020 20: 57 New
    +1
    5 boats FRB 98MKI will be built by Nibulon bully "in Ukraine in Nikolaev. How will it build? - assemble as a constructor from the brought parts? or do everything by yourself, starting with cutting aluminum sheets? - whose aluminum will be?
  29. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 23 July 2020 21: 51 New
    0
    Who was mortgaged? River boats to patrol the border, cool. Have you already run out of "armored boats"?
  30. Good forester
    Good forester 25 July 2020 07: 06 New
    0
    Quote: orionvitt
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Excuse Trochi I forgot that on Shumoflot the English language is not understood

    On the "shumovlot", everyone must know. How will they carry out the hosts' commands? However, it is not necessary to know the language completely. The dog knows a dozen commands and has enough.