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Egyptian army against pro-Turkish militants: a new armed conflict is brewing in Libya

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Egyptian army against pro-Turkish militants: a new armed conflict is brewing in Libya

After the Egyptian parliament issued a mandate to President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to use armed forces on Libyan territory, the likelihood of a clash between the Egyptian and Turkish armies on Libyan territory increased significantly.


Egypt, which supports the Libyan National Army of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, intends to provide it with military assistance by entering the territory of Libya. The Libyan House of Representatives, sitting in Tobruk, with Haftar on the side, has called on the Egyptian military to intervene in the war to protect the country's national security.

In turn, Turkey, having concluded an agreement with the Government of National Accord of Faiz Saraj (PNC), sitting in Tripoli, has transferred several thousand pro-Turkish militants from groups fighting in Syria to Libya since the beginning of this year. In addition, the TNC units have Turkish military advisers, and Ankara is also actively supplying military armored vehicles to Libya, as well as attack drones.

In the event of an armed conflict between Egypt and Turkey, the beginning of which is "trumpeted" by all possible media, the regular armed forces of Egypt will undoubtedly crush the units of the pro-Turkish militants and the PNC forces, since the Egyptian regular units are better trained and they have more equipment. And there is no reliable information about the presence of the Turkish regular army in Libya, only rumors. In the event of clashes, Egypt will receive another advantage, which is that it borders on Libya and can quickly pull up reserves, while Turkey will have to make some efforts to transfer its troops to Libyan territory.

However, not everything is as simple as it seems, and even with its advantage over Turkey in Libya, Egypt may lose. A third force may intervene in the Libyan conflict: Algeria has announced the deployment of the Iskander-E OTRK on the border of Libya and Tunisia, as well as the concentration of its armed forces along the borders. The Algerian Ministry of Defense, which by the way supports the PNS, said that the crossing of the Libyan border by the Egyptian armed forces would be regarded as a declaration of war on Algeria with all the ensuing consequences. And the Algerian army is in no way weaker than the Egyptian, even surpasses it in some parameters.

Summing up, it can be noted that at the moment it is not known how the situation in Libya will develop further. The parties can start hostilities and then no one will predict the outcome of the Libyan war. At the same time, the warring parties can leave everything as it is and draw a "red line" dividing Libya into two halves, each with its own government.

In general, time will tell how events will develop.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 22 July 2020 09: 59 New
    -1
    Ready to enter does not mean that it will.
    The situation depends more on the adequacy of the Turks.
    Just estimate.
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 22 July 2020 10: 09 New
      +3
      This is how the Turks muddy the waters. Erdogad has star fever.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 22 July 2020 13: 28 New
        0
        There, the local king has a messiah syndrome and dreams of the Ottoman Empire lol
    2. businessv
      businessv 22 July 2020 10: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: Livonetc
      The situation depends more on the adequacy of the Turks.
      Just estimate.
      Speaking of the Turks, you mean Erdogan, who is asleep and sees himself as a great figure who began the restoration of the Ottoman Empire. What adequacy can we talk about in this case ?!
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 19 New
        +5
        It entered the Ottoman Empire and Egypt for many centuries. The Egyptians have a reason to strain.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 22 July 2020 10: 23 New
          +5
          It's nice to look at the photo for the article - Urals, Shishigi, Sadko and others ............ good
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 22 July 2020 10: 51 New
          -1
          The population and territory of Egypt is now larger than the population and territory of Turkey.
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 22 July 2020 12: 23 New
          +3
          Hmm .. How amazed the Hittite labarna of Suppiluliuma would have been if he had learned that even 4500 years after him, Asia Minor continues to butt with Egypt ...
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 22 July 2020 11: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      depends on the adequacy of the Turks

      The eastern mentality, in principle, denies the adequacy, due to the nature of the eastern people in general. Hotness and emotionality often take over the cold mind.
  2. dzvero
    dzvero 22 July 2020 10: 01 New
    +4
    So the dream of the Americans about a new large-scale conflict is coming true ...
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 22 July 2020 10: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: dzvero
      So the dream of the Americans about a new large-scale conflict is coming true ...

      An excellent excuse to "not help" Turkey, but Egypt (the Americans do not really like it) can be helped, at least politically.
    2. Junior Private
      Junior Private 22 July 2020 12: 15 New
      +3
      Egypt is planning a very real military showdown with Ethiopia over the dam business on the Nile. For the Egyptians, this is a matter of life or death, the EU has interests in Ethiopia, Sudan will not pass by either ... and off we go. The United States is watching the situation with satisfaction in order to throw firewood at the right time.
  3. Normal
    Normal 22 July 2020 10: 05 New
    +3


    1. Sailor
      Sailor 23 July 2020 19: 18 New
      0
      This is exactly how the United States will follow the conflict in Libya. With beer and hamburger.
  4. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 22 July 2020 10: 09 New
    -4
    The quality is roughly comparable, but Turkey's army is better trained and stable, Egypt has a mentality
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 21 New
      +1
      Turks go far to the borders of Egypt. Through Israel it is necessary. And you can't carry much by sea. So it's wrong to directly compare. We must take into account the logistics.
      1. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
        Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 22 July 2020 10: 25 New
        -10
        The Turks will cope with logistics like Rommel with skill
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 27 New
          +2
          I will watch with pleasure.
        2. brr1
          brr1 22 July 2020 11: 55 New
          -1
          Quote: Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
          The Turks will cope with logistics like Rommel with skill

          I thought so, the Turkish fascists have a direct connection with the German fascists.
      2. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 22 July 2020 13: 54 New
        -1
        "Through Israel it is necessary." Have you looked at the map with one eye?))) Or even looked at the map?))))
  5. Vlad Malkin
    Vlad Malkin 22 July 2020 10: 12 New
    +1
    The order has been given - to go west! But...
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 22 July 2020 10: 17 New
    +4
    And as always in the east, when opponents are typical representatives of that region, there will be a lot, a lot of driving on various vehicles, around the dunes and shooting, shooting, shooting ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 23 New
      0
      What a good war. A lot of drive, positive emotions. And it's safe. Fresh air again.
      I would have fought like that. And then self-isolation by order of the leadership is fed up.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2020 10: 46 New
        +1
        Libya, it's HOT there! besides, there is a lot of shooting, from all sides, and the unexpected may arrive.
        Option for ....
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 53 New
          +1
          We have 2 weeks of rain. Plus thunderstorms are promised until Sunday. I want to warm up. Not just vodka, really?
          And if the car is air-conditioned and you choose the right route between the dunes, then the risk of sun and other impact is minimal.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 July 2020 11: 10 New
            +3
            No, no, it is worth visiting there ONCE and all illusions disperse like smoke!
            I have no illusions, FOREVER!
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 22 July 2020 11: 47 New
              +1
              I believe. But you can dream.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 July 2020 11: 56 New
                +2
                You can't forbid dreaming .... that's when you have to "vyzhivatsya", realizing the dreams of others !!! it's not ...
                not worth it, in short.
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 22 July 2020 12: 10 New
                  +1
                  Convinced. I stay at home.
                  If I brought you unpleasant memories, I'm sorry. I'm not kidding here.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 22 July 2020 12: 38 New
                    0
                    Fine. It was a long time ago, everything has already healed and overgrown soldier
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 22 July 2020 10: 27 New
      +1
      And from 9:00 to 17:00 smile
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2020 10: 47 New
        0
        A siesta break is a must.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 22 July 2020 11: 31 New
          +2
          Siesta is not required, but five-time prayer on a schedule is, as usual, without options.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 22 July 2020 11: 46 New
            +1
            I am an adept of Ganesha. I will trumpet five times a day, five times.
  7. Yeraz
    Yeraz 22 July 2020 10: 22 New
    0
    Is there a link to the statement of the Ministry of Defense of Algeria ??
    I hear it for the first time
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 22 July 2020 10: 28 New
    +2
    "He went to Odessa, and went to Kherson ..." (c)
    What does Algeria want there?
    So each of the governments invited an ally ..
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 July 2020 11: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Kerensky
      What does Algeria want there?

      Internal reasons.
      There is a permanent pre-election process, the "winners" of the color revolution cannot share power in any way
  9. Fungus
    Fungus 22 July 2020 10: 30 New
    -2
    Ash stump, we are for Egypt and not for Turkish terrorism.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 July 2020 10: 49 New
      +4
      And we are for
      ... yourself and that's the way it should be.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 22 July 2020 12: 27 New
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        And we are for
        ... yourself and that's the way it should be.

        You can cheer for someone without running out onto the field.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 July 2020 12: 46 New
          0
          Please! We have enough space for everyone on the dump, and we will fill in the hot-roasted seeds, we will not be stingy.
          And from the embankment, you can see everything well!
  10. borberd
    borberd 22 July 2020 10: 30 New
    -4
    The Egyptians will grab it for nothing. And if Algeria and the Moroccans catch up, then the Egyptians will not shine even theoretically.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 22 July 2020 11: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: borberd
      Algeria will catch up with the Moroccans, then the Egyptians do not shine even theoretically.

      Algeria and Morocco have a serious feud over Western Sahara. Algeria supports the Polisario Front, which is waging a guerrilla war against the Moroccans. They even have the Algerian-Moroccan border closed, so the Moroccans will not climb. Algeria, of course, supports the PNS, but it is unlikely that it will fight along with the Turks and Syrian militants against Egypt, Egypt has a lot of weight in the Arab world, Algeria will not get into a fight.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 22 July 2020 12: 30 New
        -3
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Algeria with Morocco serious feud

        Rather, he confused Tunisia.
      2. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 22 July 2020 12: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Algeria will not get into a fight.

        Algeria and Tunisia have nowhere to go. Egyptian tanks on their border, they don't need it. This will be the most serious strengthening of Egypt, a direct and obvious threat to Tunisia and Algeria. Better to move the line of contact with Egypt to Sirte and Jufra. And the Turks can calmly get out of the conflict.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 22 July 2020 13: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Algeria and Tunisia have nowhere to go. Egyptian tanks on their border, they don't need it. This will be the most serious strengthening of Egypt, a direct and obvious threat to Tunisia and Algeria.

          Let's not exaggerate. There is no enmity between Algeria and Egypt, there is a struggle for domination in the Arab world. After coming to power, President al-Sissi first went to Bouteflika and agreed on a joint fight with the Muslim brothers, but then one began to support Haftar, the other PNS. There is absolutely no need for Egyptian tanks to stand on the border with Algeria and Tunisia, maybe they will stay in Tripoli and go back to Egypt, there problems with water are coming. And Tunisia would be generally silent in a rag, the army is small, the weapons are old, let them sit quietly so that the neighbors do not offend.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 22 July 2020 13: 19 New
            -2
            Quote: Anatole Klim
            Tripoli will stay and go back to Egypt,

            The tanks have one problem, they go faster forward than back. Sometimes the reverse speed is measured in tens of years.
        2. KURT330
          KURT330 22 July 2020 15: 38 New
          -1
          And so it will be)
  11. Alien From
    Alien From 22 July 2020 10: 42 New
    0
    IN!!!!!!! Egyptian ?????????
  12. alone
    alone 22 July 2020 10: 45 New
    +4
    Just yesterday, a local ISIS cell attacked the Egyptian army in the Sinai Peninsula, blew up a checkpoint and fought for several hours in a small town .. The question is, what prevents Egypt from ending this rag-tag at home?
    Al Sisi decided to show muscles? Quite possibly. Egypt has only one big problem. Caste in the Armed Forces .. Officers are all offspring of wealthy families and they treat soldiers with contempt. And soldiers do not like officers .. And if Algeria gets involved, then Egypt will lose .. Algeria has the strongest air defense and air force in the region. and the army has experience in the introduction of hostilities in urban conditions. 30 years of fighting with combat units of Algerian terrorists from Al Qaeda Maghreb. And after Iraq, where the Egyptian army fought is a big question. Fighting in the city against its protesters does not count
    1. Fibrizio
      Fibrizio 22 July 2020 10: 54 New
      +1
      + Turkey will help too. Everything is in order with the Air Force, they will support the Algerians, and as a result, the Egyptians can feel like Iraqis during a desert storm.
      You just need to understand that even on the world stage, the Turks do not have the worst army, but by regional standards they are generally like Russia in the CIS. And they have more fun with discipline. Not Israelis, but not "Arabs" either (what we contemptuously put into this word).
      1. alone
        alone 22 July 2020 10: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Fibrizio
        Turkey will help too

        Naturally, Al-Sisi is practically in tense relations with Algeria, Turkey, Tunisia, Iran (because of Yemen), Sudan, Ethiopia. If it comes to war, all these countries will do everything possible to make Egypt lose. Egypt has very big internal problems
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 22 July 2020 12: 26 New
          -1
          Quote: lonely
          Naturally, Al-Sisi is practically in tense relations with Algeria, Turkey, Tunisia, Iran (because of Yemen), Sudan, Ethiopia

          You also need to remember about the British gas company "Qatar"
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 July 2020 11: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      The question is, what prevents Egypt from putting an end to this rag-tag at home?

      Great question ...
      Those who support terrorists interfere. The same Turkey. Together with your friends from Qatar
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 22 July 2020 12: 26 New
      +1
      In any war there must be some positive goals, the achievement of which outweighs the cost of a scuffle. Winning criteria. I wonder - what are they like in Algeria?
    4. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 31 July 2020 20: 49 New
      0
      Quote: lonely
      Algeria's strongest air defense and air force


      Yes, the Su-30, MiG-29 and MiG-25 will be released against the F-16, Rafal, Mirage-2000 and MiG-29. It would be nice to see ...
  13. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 22 July 2020 10: 50 New
    0
    East is a delicate matter) Finally, something is happening outside our borders.
  14. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 22 July 2020 11: 06 New
    0
    The more I look at the Middle East, the more I am convinced that there will never be order there.
    By God, it would be worth the entire Arabian Peninsula (and at the same time the whole of Africa) to fall asleep with some kind of powder from the local population, and then come and remove all the garbage, demolish everything. In order to give half of the territory for a nature reserve, and on the other to build new modern cities, plant forests and gardens, so that adequate people (our people, for example) can live and enjoy life there, who will not cut each other for centuries.
    1. Klingon
      Klingon 22 July 2020 11: 22 New
      -1
      there was once a great civilization, the Sumerians. and then they got bored of studying the local aborigines, realizing that there was little point in them, they got into their ships and flew to distant stars, to explore other worlds, leaving ruins behind them .. local savages settled on these ruins, who used to just eat each other well and continue to do so now .... in a sense wassat
  15. Klingon
    Klingon 22 July 2020 11: 14 New
    +5
    those. Algeria risks, among other things, getting across the throat of the French from the UAE too ..
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 22 July 2020 12: 21 New
      0
      Algeria runs the risk of getting Egyptian tanks on its border, the Turks will simply sail away if it gets too hot, insha'allah said.
  16. Tzar
    Tzar 22 July 2020 11: 34 New
    +3
    If Algeria climbs, it will get a knife in the back from Morocco. At such a pace, it is not far before the whole of Africa starts moving, to the music of Radio of a Thousand Hills.
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 22 July 2020 11: 57 New
      +3
      Good Tzar. Africa is already living out quiet days. Cairo is trying to secure the western border (do not forget that the PNS of Libya is the Muslim brothers, from whom Egypt somehow got rid of) The conflict between Ethiopia and Egypt is already shaking the continent in earnest - on the one hand, cheap ELN .On the other, the destruction of agricultural land and famine. So this snake knot is like a wagon with gunpowder on the square during the Chinese New Year))))))
      1. alone
        alone 22 July 2020 13: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: zadorin1974
        Cairo is trying to secure the western border (do not forget that Libya's PNS is the Muslim brothers, whom Egypt somehow got rid of)

        Egypt did not get rid of them ... they are sitting underground, waiting for their time. Yes, and ISIS cells have settled in Sinai, which regularly strike at the army from an ambush. The economy of Egypt is now experiencing a crisis, + drought due to a dam. Tourism at zero. Agriculture in recession. PNS - Muslim brothers, and Khavtar has Madhalita as friends. Do you know who they are? Local Wahhabis.) I don’t think it is worth explaining who the Wahhabis are. So it turns out to be a continuous circus ... It’s a pity for the people, although they deserve this fate. Themselves, as it were, taxes on firewood.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 22 July 2020 13: 59 New
          0
          Good time, Omar. Yes, I do not feel sorry for the Libyan people at all. I don’t even know what they still lacked under Gaddafi? The locals had everything, and even a little more. That's just one thing that just amuses me. Why no one responds to the culprit of the Arab spring. writes out, neither radicals nor moderate.
          1. alone
            alone 22 July 2020 14: 16 New
            0
            Quote: zadorin1974
            Good time, Omar. Yes, I do not feel sorry for the Libyan people at all. I don’t even know what they still lacked under Gaddafi? The locals had everything, and even a little more. That's just one thing that just amuses me. Why no one responds to the culprit of the Arab spring. writes out, neither radicals nor moderate.

            And good day to you .. They are all busy now .. each other's throats are gnawing. Well, I also understood the Tunisians, the Egyptians in whom 75% earned $ 1 per day, while the Libyans looked like kings in this regard. In general, this is the trouble of the Arabs. They themselves do not know what they need. This is their lot.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 22 July 2020 14: 38 New
              0
              You know Omar, this is not only the trouble of the Arabs. This is the trouble of all mankind. Under the current system of consumerism, people increasingly want to have the good, while not doing nichrome (this is a topic for another conversation). The main infantry during the Libyan "revolution" were migrants from all over the Middle East and Africa. They could not use the privileges of a Citizen of Libya. Something like that happened in the Outskirts during the coup (there were more buzz from the Zapodenets). We are also buzzed mainly by sellers who have not been able to achieve in life and dropouts (take the bowels and divide I have a friend who is heavier than a DJ microphone and a cash register in his hands, but thinks that the state owes him an apartment and a car and everything else, since his part is in the public domain. there is, so let the state (Putin) divide it into everyone (and, for him, such a good one is a little more)
      2. Tzar
        Tzar 22 July 2020 13: 55 New
        0
        Alexey hi Yes, Egypt cannot retreat in such a situation, it will give slack in one place - they will immediately begin to clamp down on the entire perimeter. Considering how much weapons have been stocked up in North Africa over the past decades, it could blaze so that Syria will be forgotten ...
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 22 July 2020 14: 13 New
          +4
          And maybe it's for the better if Africa flares up? Firstly, a huge number of radicals will burn out in a meat grinder. Secondly, Europe will finally drown in refugees (there are even several subsections). Thirdly, the price of oil and weapons will be astronomical. fourth, the NSR and the Silk Road will be in great demand, since all the paths to the circle of Africa will be unsafe. Fifth, it will be for a long time, and everyone will have no time for us))) Well, I’m not out of spite, I just figured out the option )))
  17. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 22 July 2020 14: 43 New
    -1
    By the way, I looked at the composition of the armies of Egypt and Algeria, Egypt's army is more powerful and significantly
  18. Phoenix040
    Phoenix040 22 July 2020 23: 02 New
    +2
    If Algeria goes to fight on the side of the Islamists, it will immediately lose access to spare parts and ammunition from the Russian Federation. China, from which Algeria purchased a number of weapons, will not support such a decision by Algeria. And an army without ammunition and spare parts is not expensive.
  19. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 25 July 2020 22: 14 New
    0
    Let them fight.