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To "annoy" the United States, order more weapons from them, then buy something from Russia

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To "annoy" the United States, order more weapons from them, then buy something from Russia

The Chinese media reacted to the news that the Pentagon decided to buy fifth-generation F-35 fighters for the US Air Force, which were being built for Turkey. It should be recalled that in connection with the acquisition of the S-400 Triumph air defense system from Russia, the United States imposed sanctions against Ankara, banning the transfer of fighters to it and excluding Turkey from the F-35 program.


Chinese portal Sohu:

According to reports, the US Air Force will officially acquire eight F-35A fighters produced by Lockheed Martin for the Turkish Air Force under a contract previously concluded with Ankara. This will cost the US budget $ 862 million, in armaments and maintenance.

In this regard, as noted, the United States will have to make adjustments to the military budgets for 2020 and 2021.

The information that the United States is going to buy the planes contracted by Turkey was commented on by Chinese users and representatives of the blogosphere. In particular, there is a tendency, which consists in the US pressure on other countries in the military-technical sphere for cooperation with Russia.

In this regard, there is a "proposal": if you are going to "annoy" the United States, order more from them weapons, and then buy something from Russia - Washington will have to buy out its own contracted weapons, spinning the printing press and creating an additional bias in the economy towards the military industry. For the United States, this approach can be called an arms race with itself.

Recall that earlier the United States threatened with sanctions for the acquisition of Russian arms from India, Indonesia and other countries maintaining military-technical cooperation with Moscow.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 22 July 2020 08: 22 New
    17
    Earlier, the United States threatened with sanctions for the acquisition of Russian weapons in India, Indonesia and other countries maintaining military-technical cooperation with Moscow.

    Well, the United States did not limit itself only to weapons ... now they have imposed sanctions for Nord Stream 2 ... in general, sanctions on everything and everything related to Russia ... it looks like insanity in Congress and the US State Department has reached a climax ... I am sure the United States will lose in this fight against Russia. smile
    The more the United States imposes sanctions against our country, the less leverage this country has on us.
    1. sav
      sav 22 July 2020 08: 24 New
      19
      You gradually adapt to any pressure.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 22 July 2020 09: 17 New
        -5
        Quote: The same Lech
        I am sure the US will lose in this fight against Russia.

        SCHAZ !!!
        Bankers are all in the US system.
        The entire financial system of Russia lives by the postulates and scenarios of the Americans.
        And now it's all over the loot.
        Who rules the dough, he runs the country.

        There are many good words from Krmel. Everything will be fine. Everyone should live up to a hundred years ...

        Only this is more toast.

        At least officials are in no hurry to fulfill these calls.
        Decrees must be followed, and a toast is just words before the next glass.

        So the toasts are great.
        But the toast for some reason does not drink.
        Apparently even he understands all the inconsistency of his words ..


        Quote: sav
        You gradually adapt to any pressure.

        Only quite often the eyes burst, and yes, you adapt - you become dead.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 22 July 2020 10: 08 New
          +2
          Our country is the best.

          Yes, only our country is ruled by neither the king, nor the secretary general, nor the president.
          Our country is ruled by officials who were under the tsar and under the general secretary and under the president.
          And it was the officials who threw the king and destroyed the Empire, then they threw the secretary general and destroyed the Union.

          And now officials are in chocolate - they trade resources, collect bribes from residents, children in the best educational institutions (over the hill), there are also villas, yachts ...

          Why would they destroy this world?

          And note the amendments were limited to senior officials in terms of prohibiting other citizenship.
          Children and families, please. And dad will tolerate our citizenship for the welfare of children.

          The son is not responsible for the father?

          What is it, if both the son of Khrushchev and the hunchback piled out of our country at the first opportunity.
        2. your1970
          your1970 22 July 2020 11: 55 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir16
          So the toasts are great.
          But the toast for some reason does not drink.
          Apparently even he understands all the inconsistency of his words ..

          Guess at once, that Putin not like the USA is it good or bad for Russia ???
          And next to the article is that the United States demands to stop work on a hypersonic and nuclear engine ...
          Hypersound and nuclear engines - is it good or bad for Russia?
          Think at least once
        3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 22 July 2020 23: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir16
          The entire financial system of Russia lives by the postulates and scenarios of the Americans.

          In vain you minus a person. The notorious "budget rule" in our country was formed on the basis of the "recommendations of the IMF". This rule is so loved by all sorts of guardians of the good of Russia, like Kudrin. This rule is often called the main anchor for our economy.
          Elvira Sakhipzadovna, our chairman of the Central Bank, is so valued by our Western "partners" for something that their publications even awarded her the title of "best head of the central bank" in 2015 (on the very eve of the crisis among ordinary Russians).
          If we assume that the IMF, Kudrin and Western publications are concerned about the welfare of our country, then everything is fine. And if you doubt this, then Comrade Vladimir16 is at least not far from the truth.
    2. HAM
      HAM 22 July 2020 08: 37 New
      +2
      Alexey, you will be surprised, but the State Department it not yet the highest point ... they can still "please" with the next action ... and the more they do them, the less, it seems, they think about the consequences ... vanity and feverish actions will not bring good ... God forbid ...
    3. Pravodel
      Pravodel 22 July 2020 08: 46 New
      +3
      These are just flowers, the berries will be ahead. Hold on, there will soon be sanctions for the fact that some outlets in the garden are wooden, not toilets made of gold, that bears rarely appear or do not appear at all at the walls of the Kremlin. This cannot be! Bears should definitely walk around Moscow, because everyone knows this ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 22 July 2020 09: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: The Truth
        that bears rarely appear or do not appear at all at the walls of the Kremlin.

        And we don't drink vodka from samovars and we don't wander the streets with balalaikas in earflaps
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 22 July 2020 09: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: The Truth
          These are just flowers, the berries will be ahead. Hold on, sanctions will soon be imposed for the fact that some needy people in the garden ...

          Soon you will pay the tax for the needs.
          If you prove that the outhouse is not a capital structure, then you will not pay.
          And to prove this will be problematic, because you have to stupidly disassemble it.
          There will be a hole above which the tent is standing.
          Otherwise, be so kind as to slobber.

          In the meantime, you will talk about sanctions. wink

          The lack of money (due to the sanctions) is compensated by the Russian "servants of the people" by increasing fees from the population of Russia.
          And of course the Americans are blamed for this. (those are of course tricks, but I'm not sure if the officials of the Russian spill are better)
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 22 July 2020 08: 53 New
      +5
      In impotent rage, humans sometimes do the stupidest things. In my opinion they are in a panic. hi
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 22 July 2020 11: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Captive
        In my opinion they are in a panic.

        Put it mildly. If you look at what is happening in the states, not only in politics, but also on the streets, then this is not panic, this is the beginning of the agony of the Western system as a whole. However, they will still drink plenty of blood. Leaving, they will slam the door so that the whole world will fly off its hinges.
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 July 2020 09: 44 New
      0
      The reaction of the Turks is more interesting - will the Sultan swallow such an aleukh, or will he find what and how to annoy the US more?
    6. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 22 July 2020 10: 09 New
      +2
      The striped instrument of sanctions has been used by 30 percent, without touching the main thing - oil exports and access to the world financial system (financial transactions Russia-abroad) + a ban on the supply of electronic, oil and gas equipment and equipment to Russia, not only from ourselves, but also from other countries , well, like the icing on the cake to this massive propaganda like in the 90s ..
      And I really would not like to check what will happen if they introduce 100% ... with them, then nothing special, although there will be losses, but we either sink or turn into a closed economy again .. and with the current system and approach to the country's economy, more like sinking ..
      So, it is better not to do this - "show me your best blow", the USSR was an order of magnitude more powerful and it could not stand it, but we are still very far from its power .. And anticipating the comments that the USSR was destroyed by traitors, with which I, of course agree, and find new traitors do not think they will succeed?
      1. your1970
        your1970 22 July 2020 12: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: 2 level advisor
        access to the global financial system (financial transactions Russia-abroad)

        When they jerked to close the Visa and Master for Russia, it turned out that the Russian Federation is in 2nd place in terms of turnover. After which the United States was sent to the owners, and NOT tactfully....
        And yes - by excluding us from electronic payments they will force their allies like Germany - to pay us in cash or in general in gold ...
        And the worst thing for them is that we can then collapse the oil and gas market, since we will leave exchange trade ...
        And this for the United States may be worse than a nuclear war
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 22 July 2020 17: 05 New
          0
          Quote: your1970
          When they jerked to close the Visa and Master for Russia, it turned out that the Russian Federation is in 2nd place in terms of turnover.

          Where and by what turnover may I find out? Is the Russian banking system the second largest in the world? I can't believe something, I'm sorry, you can link ..
          Quote: your1970
          by excluding us from electronic payments, they will force their OWN allies like Germany to pay us in cash or even in gold

          Siemens and many others have been banned from deliveries? SP-2 slips? then the sanctions on the Europeans are in effect, right?
          By the way, they will not only pay us, but we will pay them gold and cash for equipment, etc. imported in a gray way, like once machine tools for boat propellers .. and most of foreign companies (for example, Siemens and turbines for Crimean power plants) will not want to sell us anything at all, so that their minke whales do not clot, I hope you won’t argue with that?
          Quote: your1970
          then we can crash the oil and gas market

          Russia has 12,2 percent of the market .. they will prohibit supplies, how will we bring down the market, have any proposals? even if we carry it on the left, 12 percent / 88 percent will not collapse, they will make it difficult, yes .. but they will not collapse .. they already fell in March ..
          All this is why, do not overestimate the impact of our economy on the world .. I repeat once again - the USSR was an order of magnitude more powerful and it could not stand it, but we are still very far from its power .. It's too early for us to go out in the open against the Naglo-Saxons .. we then we can create problems for them, of course, but what kind of problems we will have .. is it definitely needed now?
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 22 July 2020 20: 59 New
        +2
        Nikolay, 101% of us sanctions am against Russia - the closure of all McDonald's in Russia ... an attempt to "starve" the Russians.
    7. Wedmak
      Wedmak 22 July 2020 11: 33 New
      0
      it looks like insanity in Congress and the US State Department has reached a climax ...

      I think I haven't reached it yet. Insanity at its highest point will be when the United States prohibits everyone from doing business with the Russian Federation, but they themselves will do it. For well, where can they themselves be without Russian titanium, fuel rods and oil (yes, they buy oil, I'm shocked myself!) ...
    8. zwlad
      zwlad 22 July 2020 12: 12 New
      0
      This is not insanity, it is the only argument against the ever-growing Russian presence in all world markets. There will be no SP-2, there will be something else.
  2. Zhan
    Zhan 22 July 2020 08: 34 New
    +6
    It looks like the formula: "Buy a box of vodka, pour out the vodka, hand over the bottles, and drink the money ..." laughing
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 22 July 2020 09: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Zhan
      It looks like the formula: "Buy a box of vodka, pour out the vodka, hand over the bottles, and drink the money ...

      Somewhere in the mid-60s, I read this in the "Family and School" magazine. Two boys, 7 and 5 years old, were caught in the store.
      They stole vodka, poured it out, handed over bottles and bought candy with this money
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 22 July 2020 09: 34 New
        -11
        Quote: Lipchanin
        two boys 7 and 5 years old.

        Seven and five YEARS.

        You are carrying a blizzard. A five-year-old boy will "die" from a bottle of vodka. At least he will not have time for sweets.
        It will bleat for a long time, and then fall asleep for ten hours.

        And of course it was with the Russian boys ?!

        What rubbish you are carrying! They were of course with balalaikas and wearing earflaps, but did they buy sweets for a bear?
        So it was written "
        Somewhere in the mid-60s in the magazine "Family and School"
        "?"

        On the fence KUI is written, and behind the fence there is firewood.

        Head on shoulders for what?
        1. Rakovor
          Rakovor 22 July 2020 10: 06 New
          +7
          It is written - Poured out. Or is the Chukchi not a reader?))
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 22 July 2020 12: 56 New
            0
            My eyesight is good, only my hands are short with age. laughing
            We have to move the monitor further and further. laughing
            I was drinking. fool wassat

            So I thought - it's too early at five or seven years laughing

            Thank you, explained. hi
  3. Maks1995
    Maks1995 22 July 2020 08: 40 New
    +1
    What a trifle
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 22 July 2020 09: 14 New
    +4
    In this regard, there is a "proposal": if you are going to "annoy" the United States, order more weapons from them, and then buy something from Russia - Washington will have to buy out contracted weapons of its own, spinning up the printing press and creating an additional bias in the economy towards the military industry ... For the United States, this approach can be called an "arms race with itself."

    Too little consolation! That it is worth printing an extra billion for the United States, but they do not care about all this imbalance, they already have a bias of ten trillion
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 22 July 2020 09: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      yes they do not care about all this imbalance, they already have a bias of ten trillion

      And the dollar will not collapse in any way, although here "analysts" have been predicting a fall for decades.

      The US national debt is a debt that does not need to be repaid.
      This is Uncle Sam's rule -. Everything I have to, I forgive!

      According to this rule, mattresses will print as much bucks as is needed in order for the whole world to work on them.
      And this system WORKS.


      God bless us to get out of this system.
      Yes, but neither I nor you will have to live in this wonderful time.

      Yesterday Putin issued a decree that people should live up to 78 years old by the year 30.
      The truth does not specify who are men or women.
      It's like a fairy tale - yesterday we ate 30 kg. caviar black and squash.
      Only as it turned out black caviar was 30 grams, and the rest was squash. laughing
      It is wrong for a guarantor not to know the difference in the life expectancy of men and women.
      This is the average temperature in the hospital. wink

      It's time to think about raising the retirement age! fellow
      And then where is the money to take when there will be so many pensioners in the country by the thirtieth year?
      1. sg7s
        sg7s 22 July 2020 11: 41 New
        -1
        The US national debt increases by 2 million every MINUTE. In total, the US national debt is 26 trillion dollars. The worst thing for us is that under Obama, the national debt grew by 800 million a year and there were lockdowns, disputes, screams. And what is even worse - the United States will stimulate its economy because of a pandemic of $ 2.2 trillion. And yesterday at 2.2 am the European Union made an unprecedented decision (an agreement, for the sake of appearance, donor countries were "butting" with beggars) to support the EU countries in the crisis and "borrow "(ie print) something just under $ 5 trillion. euro! And the worst thing (for all other countries) - there will be no "collapses" and hyperinflation-devaluations of dollars and euros, because in a crisis, everyone goes to the same dollars and euros (analysts will talk to us about all sorts of risk-free assets). Actually, the whole huge goal of rich families with this virus looms - we print as much as we want, and it is not dollars that devalue, but rubles (Turkish lira, hryvnia, and other under-currencies ...), because "we are getting rich, but whatever you want" ..
  5. bar
    bar 22 July 2020 09: 37 New
    +2
    The Pentagon decided to buy the fifth generation F-35 fighters for the US Air Force, which were built for Turkey.

    Lucky striped. Now they have a bunch of new fighters laughing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 July 2020 10: 38 New
      -1
      Eight ready-made new fighters in addition to incoming
      the plan is really lucky.
      Imagine that the Aerospace Forces suddenly receive 8 brand new Su-35 or S-57 fellow
      Is it bad?
      1. bar
        bar 22 July 2020 12: 13 New
        0
        Imagine that the Aerospace Forces suddenly receive 8 brand new Su-35s or S-57 fellows
        Is it bad?

        If these new fighters were abandoned, for example, by the Indians and the contract was revoked, then nothing good.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 July 2020 12: 18 New
          0
          Well, maybe Russia needs currency ... recourse
          The Americans have rearmament
          The Air Force is behind schedule with new aircraft, so they value such a gift of 8 aircraft.
          1. bar
            bar 22 July 2020 12: 20 New
            +1
            Well, maybe Russia needs currency ...

            You have subtly noticed this. We ourselves do not know how to print bucks, let alone striped ones.
  6. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 22 July 2020 10: 11 New
    +2
    The Chinese media reacted to the news that the Pentagon decided to buy fifth-generation F-35 fighters for the US Air Force, which were being built for Turkey. It should be recalled that in connection with the acquisition of the S-400 Triumph air defense system from Russia, the United States imposed sanctions against Ankara, banning the transfer of fighters to it and excluding Turkey from the F-35 program.


    The Turks had a similar precedent in 1914, when the Britons commandeered the newly built Turkish battleships. Remember zhezh for sure.
  7. orionvitt
    orionvitt 22 July 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    "An arms race with themselves"
    And what, they will print an extra trillion greens and go ahead and make changes to the budget. The Pentagon cannot reprimand $ 1,5 trillion, spent on what is unknown, and then there are just over 800 million. Trifle.
    1. your1970
      your1970 22 July 2020 18: 43 New
      0
      Quote: orionvitt
      The Pentagon cannot reprimand 1,5 trillion dollars spent on unknown

      8,7 belay trillion - undocumented ...
      Little do you appreciate the Pentagon lol
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 22 July 2020 19: 01 New
        0
        Quote: your1970
        8,7 trillion belay - undocumented ...
        Little do you appreciate the Pentagon

        Well, it depends on how long it took and who evaluated it. According to various estimates, the numbers are different. One thing is clear, according to the cut of budgets, they have no equal. On the other hand, where there is more money, there is more sawing. But in the states it is easier, pay the tax on stolen goods and live in peace, it seems as if you did not steal at all, but earned.
        1. your1970
          your1970 22 July 2020 21: 09 New
          0
          I liked - 5 day ladies' carousel for senior officers of the navy in the Philippines in honor of the 200th anniversary of some of their admiral lol lol
          And some other ghouls took discount cards for taxis for, .... 109 belay dollars in the same place ... Apparently the admirals of the USA are quite poor ...
  8. Snail N9
    Snail N9 22 July 2020 12: 14 New
    +1
    In this regard, there is a "proposal": if you are going to "annoy" the United States, order more weapons from them, and then buy something from Russia - Washington will have to buy out contracted weapons of its own, spinning up the printing press and creating an additional bias in the economy towards the military industry ...

    Oh, what a "profound conclusion"!
  9. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 July 2020 12: 39 New
    0
    Not everything is so beautiful. The Turks have invested decently in the development of F 35. Something about two (or four?) Billion green. And so...
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 July 2020 08: 52 New
    0
    And that, a sensible idea, there is a zest in it. It is necessary to think carefully at your leisure. So much for Lech.