Change of strategy: Japan does not rule out the possibility of preemptive strikes against enemy bases

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In the American media, the statement of the Japanese Minister of Defense Taro Kono, which he made after the refusal to deploy American Aegis Ashore missile defense systems in the country, is being discussed. Recall that the Japanese authorities called the deployment of such missile defense systems excessively costly, adding that the opposition opposes.

A few weeks after the decision on Aegis Ashore, the head of the Japanese defense department made a statement that the US press called "a possible change of doctrine for the first time since the end of World War II." In Tokyo, as the US media write, the anti-missile defense systems do not yet give 100% guarantees for intercepting missiles, and therefore the option with a "preemptive attack on enemy bases" cannot be abandoned.



The United States notes that for decades this kind of Tokyo rhetoric was considered unacceptable, the strategy was aimed exclusively at defensive actions. At the same time, it is noted that the initiative to introduce a clause on the possibility of striking enemy military bases, from which there is a threat, was put forward in Japan 3 years ago. In 2017, a proposal was made by representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan. But then it was not accepted.

Now, the US media is trying to analyze whether Tokyo's statements about a possible pre-emptive strike strategy have weight, or if all this is nothing more than a new stage in the possible justification of abandoning American missile defense systems.
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  1. +9
    22 July 2020 06: 57
    It's time! It's time to be proactive in Okinawa.
    1. +4
      22 July 2020 07: 02
      It's time to be proactive in Okinawa.

      Mdyayaya belay there are American bases ... after all, it's the third world war ... don't watch Hollywood action films.
      1. +3
        22 July 2020 07: 35
        Quote: The same Lech
        It's time to be proactive in Okinawa.

        there are American bases ...

        This means that the blow must be delivered from the territory of these bases.
        In vain, perhaps, Americans are introducing remote control everywhere
        1. +6
          22 July 2020 07: 45
          The United States believes that missile defense systems do not yet provide 100% guarantees for intercepting missiles, and therefore the option with a "preemptive attack on enemy bases" cannot be abandoned.

          The United States so wants to knock other countries head-ons that American BUTTERNESS is simply amazed!
          For the USA, PROXY-war is a mother!
          1. +3
            22 July 2020 09: 46

            So they experienced it themselves. This is Pearl Harbor's strategy. Indeed, the Japanese worked effectively then, so they remembered. And then Aegis, Aegis. wink
        2. +4
          22 July 2020 09: 25
          From which "these" bases? From bases in Okinawa? About whom? And what does the remote control have to do with it?
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      3. 0
        24 July 2020 06: 55
        She will be there anyway.
    2. +9
      22 July 2020 07: 03
      Well, what, the Americans change their shoes when they want, the Japanese thought, and we are worse. In general, by 2020, almost all the results achieved after WW2 were somehow lost. Peeping into the territory and a change of rhetoric begins
    3. +14
      22 July 2020 07: 09
      Oh. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki never taught anything. Even though they don't know it ... they've already been knocked out of their minds.
      1. +6
        22 July 2020 07: 58
        Everyone knows - in the Hiroshima Museum, where they take schoolchildren, there are even the names of the pilots of Enola Gay and the participants in the Manhattan project. The problem is different - if Japan wants to create its own nuclear weapons, it will have it within months. As with Germany.
        1. +4
          22 July 2020 09: 31
          ... if Japan wants to create its own nuclear weapons, it will have it within months.

          Zist, he is zist, the one who will give him. laughing
          In the Pentagon, too, they are not full, and they have plenty of their own, why would they have nuclear weapons from the satellites, Israel alone is enough.
          1. +5
            22 July 2020 09: 43
            Greetings! hi Most likely, they will not give it, and Israel had nuclear weapons three years before friendship with the United States - the American commissions and inspections simply cheated. They deceived in the most shameless way. sad
            1. +3
              22 July 2020 09: 52
              Good day! hi
              I remember that situation with the Israeli bomb, and there was no other way for them to do. Here it is a completely different matter, both with Japan and with Germany.
          2. +1
            22 July 2020 10: 06
            Hi Konstantin soldier
            To collect "vigorous" ammunition, it is necessary to create an integral industry, which they do not have, because the main components for the enty device will not be on sale!
            Expensive and time consuming. Moreover, the industry is similar, the equipment is very sophisticated, it will not work for anything else.
            1. +1
              22 July 2020 10: 30
              Victor, Hi! soldier
              Yes, even if there was an opportunity, they would not allow it. And why, if they have a friendship with the staff, you are right, and without this there is something to spend money on.
              1. +1
                22 July 2020 11: 02
                Yankees must remember how the "Asian tiger" jumps out if you give it claws to grow.
                Moreover, all their neighbors never forget about it!
        2. +6
          22 July 2020 11: 07
          Quote: Krasnodar
          if Japan wants to create its own nuclear weapons, it will have it within months

          Here Japan has the same problems as Israel - a tiny territory.
          1) The exchange of nuclear strikes for countries of this size will simply erase them from the further history of mankind.
          2) Taking into account the small area of ​​these states, taking into account the small area of ​​these states, is not a difficult enough task to pre-emptively destroy a few carriers and entire areas for launching missiles with nuclear weapons.

          Size matters here.
          1. 0
            22 July 2020 11: 14
            Especially with an abundance of rocks and the optional presence of mines lol
            preventive "destruction of few carriers" is simply guaranteed fellow
            1. +5
              22 July 2020 11: 39
              Quote: Krasnodar
              with an abundance of rocks

              About the "abundance of rocks" I have already answered you in detail. A seismic wave (carrying the energy of elastic vibrations) propagates much better in what you call "rocks", meaning rocky soils with rigid mechanical bonds, than in dispersed soils (sands, clays, etc.).
              The zones of distribution of dispersed soils in mountainous areas - I have already indicated to you, they do not have any significant distribution in terms of plan and depth. Consequently, mines will have to be hidden in soils that poorly slow down seismic waves.
              In this regard, choosing the path of building shelters for nuclear weapons in your case and in the Japanese case is futile. However, it is no less futile to rely on ground complexes, the normal positioning areas of which simply will not fit into your boundaries.
              1. 0
                22 July 2020 12: 18
                laughing What mines ?? ))
                And look (open access on the Internet, no selection lol ) on NORAD Cheyenne - how everything works there against seismic waves)).
                1. +3
                  22 July 2020 16: 33
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  everything is arranged against seismic waves

                  You often mention your "rocks" as a factor contributing to the stability of the structure designed "in them", including to a nuclear strike (as a source, among other things, of seismic waves in the adjacent soil massif).
                  I explain to you again and again that the presence of "rocks" (I repeat, you mean rocky soils by this phrase) in the massif used by the builders, in this case, the factor of such stability is by no means conducive, but on the contrary - makes them more vulnerable the above-mentioned impacts in comparison with similar structures, but erected in an array of dispersed soils.

                  Having understood the provisions caused by the simplest physics, which I have given above, we can proceed to the second stage of our thinking. Even if Russia, which does not experience a shortage of dispersed soils on its territory and can "push" such structures literally into kilometers of Mesozoic / Cenozoic deposits, decided that this scheme would not guarantee a retaliatory strike (after reaching a certain accuracy, US nuclear weapons already with high it was possible to disable these structures) and had, in order to preserve the possibility of a retaliatory strike, in addition to mine ones, there were also soil complexes, then Israel or Japan, with their "rocks", should not expect anything good from this scheme and even more so ... However, in their case, the second scheme is also not realizable.
                  1. 0
                    22 July 2020 17: 26
                    The monoblock is grounded at 50 m. When hitting some kind of mountain like Cheyenne, it will collapse, it will split, but not destroy. Russia has different types of deployment of nuclear weapons and other options for responding - including tf. retaliatory strike + huge territory. Israel has a different song. Only guaranteed retribution. If the yars want to create a cheto like that, they will have the same.
                    1. +1
                      22 July 2020 18: 27
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Grounding

                      This term is slightly from another section of the school physics textbook).
                      A discussion on abstract topics, such as a discussion of truly Soviet rudeness, which has surprisingly survived to this day in the Israeli service sector, can be quite interesting to talk to. But the current discussion, somewhat more limited by the harsh physical laws, I, perhaps, have no interest in continuing.
        3. +3
          22 July 2020 12: 13
          Quote: Krasnodar
          if Japan wants to create its own nuclear weapons, it will have it within months.

          Nuclear weapons are not a magic wand or a "panacea" for all ills. This is a whole complex of weapons, including ground, surface, underwater, space and much more. This is the presence of modern delivery vehicles, a modern missile defense system, etc. It's not so simple, and the presence of a nuclear warhead, in itself, in our time, still does not mean anything. It is not enough to have it, it still needs to be delivered to the goal. On the other hand, the presence of the American Aegis systems in Japan does not guarantee anything in terms of protection. Even without the use of nuclear weapons, Japan's getting involved in any conflict is fraught with the loss of the economy as a whole. The resources on the Japanese islands are, frankly, zero. Hitlerite Germany, and that, with the resources of all of Europe, lost outright to the Soviet Union in this regard.
          1. +1
            22 July 2020 17: 22
            I agree. But the Japanese will create an appropriate weapons structure very quickly.
            1. +1
              22 July 2020 18: 28
              It's not that simple. This is not some type of weapon, but a whole structure. The USSR has been creating this for decades, again, with practically unlimited resources. Theoretically, the Japanese might be able to create something similar, but in practice, sitting on their islands, this is unrealistic.
              1. +1
                22 July 2020 18: 58
                Can. They have a lot of attendants.
                1. 0
                  22 July 2020 19: 05
                  Money, by itself, cannot create anything. To create something, you need to attach a lot more to money. On the other hand, money is certainly easier. But not in this case. Japan has long since (like everyone else) plunged into a systemic crisis, and there is not much money there.
                  1. +1
                    22 July 2020 20: 45
                    They have stagnation, not a systemic crisis
                    1. 0
                      23 July 2020 11: 32
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      They have stagnation, not a systemic crisis

                      Stagnation, each one individually, and the capitalists have a common global systemic crisis. One for all.
      2. +3
        22 July 2020 09: 27
        Yes, they remember everything, Hiroshima and Midway, they just have a good support, and it is not they who rearrange the pieces on the geopolitics board.
        1. +1
          22 July 2020 10: 15
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Yes, they remember everything, Hiroshima and Midway, they just have a good support, and it is not they who rearrange the pieces on the geopolitics board.

          Of course they remember, only there everything is left so that Japan is to blame, Japan was punished, the Americans are great
          1. +1
            22 July 2020 10: 27
            Here, as they say, who was the first to say "meow". And if you do not touch upon the entire geopolitics of that time, then first, after all, there was Pearl Harbor, and then Hiroshima. request
    4. +4
      22 July 2020 08: 28
      Oh well. Somehow, China has not yet answered the Japanese for their 50 million tortured by them in World War II. And the Chinese have a very long memory.
      1. -1
        22 July 2020 10: 10
        Japan will not be able to fight either with China or with Russia. No, they will be able to strike a sudden blow somewhere, they may even have some successes at first, but when they are deprived of the sea supply of raw materials, energy carriers and food, the existing warehouses with supplies are destroyed, they will be forced to surrender in a short time.
        1. 0
          22 July 2020 10: 20
          Quote: georgiigennadievitch
          Japan will not be able to fight either with China or with Russia. No, they will be able to strike a sudden blow somewhere, they may even have some successes at first, but when they are deprived of the sea supply of raw materials, energy carriers and food, the existing warehouses with supplies are destroyed, they will be forced to surrender in a short time.

          Americans can try to arrange something like a lend-lease. But without a nuclear country to meddle on a nuclear ...
    5. +4
      22 July 2020 09: 11
      Instead of comics with animations, someone slipped Shinzo Abe to read the Bushido code for the night? laughing
  2. +2
    22 July 2020 06: 57
    I believe this is a warning to Great Eunwoo smile hitting the bases of China or Russia will end badly for Japan ...
    1. +1
      22 July 2020 10: 20
      Quote: The same Lech
      I believe this is a warning to Great Eunwoo smile hitting the bases of China or Russia will end badly for Japan ...

      The great eun has yao. Japan found itself in such an interesting situation when all potential adversaries in the region have yao, but they do not.
  3. +6
    22 July 2020 06: 58
    And where is this enemy? And who will be preempted? Specify, gentlemen, Japanese!
    1. +5
      22 July 2020 07: 15
      Korea is the eternal enemy there. And for the Japanese historically there is no difference between the north and south. Just by the fact that the southern one seems to be allies ... for now ... Well, and China, of course. But his teeth will break off without the participation of the Americans
    2. +2
      22 July 2020 09: 00
      Pearl Harbor! Lenochka !!! they know that they are still under occupation!
      1. +2
        22 July 2020 09: 33
        After Pearl Harbor, there were Midway and Hiroshima, and the Americans paid off with japa for a long time.
        1. -1
          22 July 2020 09: 57
          Quote: Sea Cat
          After Pearl Harbor, there were Midway and Hiroshima,

          Aha! Only now their youth thinks that the atomic bomb was dropped on them by the Russians !!!! As the saying goes "learn the ability to promote" and you will be in chocolate!
          1. +2
            22 July 2020 10: 22
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: Sea Cat
            After Pearl Harbor, there were Midway and Hiroshima,

            Aha! Only now their youth thinks that the atomic bomb was dropped on them by the Russians !!!! As the saying goes "learn the ability to promote" and you will be in chocolate!

            Bullshit
          2. +2
            22 July 2020 10: 23
            Dear Elena. love
            Their youth is different, like everywhere, like ours. And the dumbest one, the one you remembered, just goes to "cannon fodder", they hunt, well - a tablecloth road and a flag in hand.
  4. +3
    22 July 2020 07: 12
    Quote: The same Lech
    It's time to be proactive in Okinawa.

    Mdyayaya belay there are American bases ... after all, it's the third world war ... don't watch Hollywood action films.

    The third world war is if the North. Hook Korea.
    And in Okinawa - cute scold only amuse themselves
    laughing
    1. +1
      22 July 2020 10: 24
      Quote: Halpat
      Quote: The same Lech
      It's time to be proactive in Okinawa.

      Mdyayaya belay there are American bases ... after all, it's the third world war ... don't watch Hollywood action films.

      The third world war is if the North. Hook Korea.
      And in Okinawa - cute scold only amuse themselves
      laughing

      And that someone signed a military alliance with North Korea? If you touch North Korea, then the southern and possibly Yapam will fly in, and then they will trample it into the Paleolithic and no one will stand up for it
  5. +2
    22 July 2020 07: 16
    This is what the proud ignorance of the Americans for Eun's missiles sometimes flying over Japan leads to. We calculated the trajectory of Eun's missile, it does not pose a threat to Japan. For some reason, Eun does not for some reason put beacons for US missile defense interceptor missiles on his missiles to facilitate interception. Japanese know this. and decided to go their own way.
  6. +13
    22 July 2020 07: 20
    Japan has such agglomerations that a blow to them will at one moment "halve" the population of these islands. Tokyo Bay alone is worth it ... What a preemptive strike against the bases ... They will never go from retaliation ...
    After all, the foolishness overwhelmed Japanese politicians ...
    1. sav
      +12
      22 July 2020 08: 22
      Japan has built up muscles, hence the nonsense went.
  7. +1
    22 July 2020 07: 35
    Goodbye Japan.
    Once Gramyko said Thatcher.
    "Margrethe, don't forget that you live on an island."
    PS I cannot vouch for the accuracy and reliability of the above statement.
    1. +2
      22 July 2020 07: 42
      After that, she waited for the humpback and played it back in full! Gorby and Oka will be there? Will, will. It's disgusting to remember.
      1. +2
        22 July 2020 08: 04
        We live today.
        Of course, you shouldn't forget.
        However, the realities of geopolitics have changed dramatically since the days of the humpback toadstool.
    2. +1
      22 July 2020 08: 07
      If he did, then it was complete nonsense. Even 30 thousand years ago there were not the British Isles, but the British Peninsula connected to Eurasia. The isthmus (which is now the English Channel) was washed away by glaciers. Britain stands on the continental crust and is geologically part of Eurasia. Unlike Iceland, Hawaii and Florida, for example. However, the oceanic crust. No weapon can be severely destroyed
      1. +1
        22 July 2020 08: 15
        How to say.
        The isthmus will not play any role.
        In the event of a global aggravation of the Anglo-Saxon insanity, Britain will completely disappear from the political map of the world.
        But Russia with a high degree of probability will survive, even after suffering heavy losses.
        You can of course appeal to all of humanity to think better.
        However, this has little effect on the Angloskax.
        If Japan wants to go the same way, then that is its choice.
        And Gramyko did not say stupid things.
        He made it clear to various world bastards that they would not leave unpunished under any circumstances.
  8. +2
    22 July 2020 07: 37
    ordinary Japanese revanchism ... new generations teach history poorly and want the former "greatness" ... even if there wasn’t much of it ... so ... fairy tales for adults ...
    1. -1
      22 July 2020 11: 55
      Quote: silberwolf88
      ordinary Japanese revanchism ... new generations teach history poorly and want the former "greatness" ... even if there wasn’t much of it ... so ... fairy tales for adults ...

      This problem affects the entire modern world. Those who personally knew what it was like "World War" - died, and current generations think that it will be like in computer games.
  9. +1
    22 July 2020 07: 37
    The Japanese, in general, have already lost their shores!
    It's time to squint in place and remind them of Article 9 of their own constitution, where the Self-Defense Forces are very limited in their capabilities.
    If they are so afraid of the opposition, then they need to remind them of this article.
  10. +2
    22 July 2020 07: 45
    But what if these rhetoric is being served by the Americans? They will not deliver missile defense, but they will deploy their American shock batteries. For which Japan will pay. Then the Japanese will be pitted against the Koreans, Chinese, Russians ... There are many controversial borders.
    This is so, think if
  11. +3
    22 July 2020 07: 53
    Formally, the Japanese did not abandon the fact that the constitution contains a ban on war and no one canceled it.
    But they came up very flexibly.
    Self-defense is not war.
    And then even more flexible. Active and collective self-defense is not war either.
    Flexible people, however
    1. +2
      22 July 2020 09: 41
      Yeah, and very quickly can become aggressive ...
      1. +1
        22 July 2020 10: 00
        They already have something to lose, this is not the beginning of the last century
  12. 0
    22 July 2020 07: 57
    It's just that they haven't had a war for a long time. They haven't poked their noses in guano for a long time, so they forgot. And being close to Americans adds to the sense of impunity.
  13. 0
    22 July 2020 08: 30
    Sounds like the usual chatter of the liberal elite. So this is to stir up interest in the Liberal Democratic Party, very consonant with the Liberal Democratic Party ... laughing And Volfovich, somehow, was going to wash the boots of the Russian army in the Indian Ocean .. laughing
    1. +2
      22 July 2020 09: 40
      This is the defense minister declaring, not the political opposition ...
  14. HAM
    +1
    22 July 2020 08: 42
    Fukushima victims, mlyn ...
    1. +2
      22 July 2020 09: 01
      meticulously noticed! lol good
      1. +2
        22 July 2020 09: 39
        And they want to make everyone their victims, very dangerous games ...
  15. 0
    22 July 2020 08: 59
    Japan does not exclude the possibility of preemptive strikes against enemy bases

    Heh, and then the "enemy" will strike back and the Japanese islands will slide into the Pacific Ocean! fellow
    Where will you live then, ichthyandras? lol
  16. +1
    22 July 2020 09: 19
    As soon as Japan brings us into the enemy (and she will definitely bring us in, here the Americans will try), we also need to adopt a preemptive strike strategy
    1. +1
      22 July 2020 09: 36
      Are you going to fight, dear? Don't make the geese laugh.
      And we have always been an enemy for Japan, and will always remain.
      1. 0
        22 July 2020 19: 47
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Are you going to fight, dear?

        No, I’m not, I’m just tired of the mongrels starting to wipe their feet about us, because the United States is behind him. It's time to set the criteria for relations, either we are friends, or .............
        1. +1
          22 July 2020 20: 44
          Well, let's say Japan is not such a mongrel, but otherwise it is true - tired of whatever government is at the head of Russia. in the West, they are eternally unchained and accused of all sins. Are they afraid, or are they jealous, or are they all taken together? Well, they cannot calmly look at us, do they have such a disease ... request
    2. +2
      22 July 2020 09: 38
      Well, everything is clear about us and China, but who else they will bring, I think the United States will be very surprised ...
  17. +2
    22 July 2020 09: 36
    In Tokyo, as the US media write, the anti-missile defense systems do not yet give 100% guarantees for intercepting missiles, and therefore the option with a "preemptive attack on enemy bases" cannot be abandoned.


    Japan will get out of the control of the USA, it seems that the states will not keep it ...
  18. +1
    22 July 2020 09: 50
    It's time for the Japanese to get down on one knee and ask forgiveness for the genocide.
  19. 0
    22 July 2020 09: 52
    In 20 years, Japan will be washed into the ocean, they will still kneel before us with a request to shelter them in the Far East, so we just wait.
    1. 0
      22 July 2020 10: 44
      The ocean rises evenly across the globe.
      Anyone who lives in the low plains may suffer in the future.
  20. 0
    22 July 2020 10: 05
    Japan, as a country with big demographic problems, a family crisis and a noise in the head among young people, needs a goal, so preparations are underway to achieve this goal. And who will be this goal: China, Kuril Islands, South Korea is no longer important.
  21. bar
    0
    22 July 2020 10: 15
    you cannot refuse the option with "preemptive attack of enemy bases"

    In the place of the narrow-eyed, I would be more careful. With the size of their island, after a "preemptive attack", it is possible to remain without territory at all.
  22. -2
    22 July 2020 10: 42
    The Japanese will soon have more than a hundred subtle F-35s.
    You can launch a surprise attack on any missile base in the vicinity.
  23. 0
    22 July 2020 11: 07
    I repeat.
    It is high time for the Duma to pass a law on the admissibility of a nuclear strike on the facilities of a country that has allowed itself aggression against Russia.
    Then many will keep quiet ...
  24. 0
    22 July 2020 11: 16
    Criticize the threats of the Japanese, repeating the Japanese words about the preemptive strike. lol
    1. -2
      22 July 2020 11: 53
      The Yankees will not allow them to change the Constitution, without this all words are just words ...
  25. +1
    22 July 2020 13: 03
    Well, who are these samurai bits going to strike?