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Baku refutes the statement of the Armenian Defense Ministry about the attack by the Azerbaijani special forces

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The Armenian Defense Ministry previously published a release stating that Azerbaijani special forces tried to attack the positions of Armenian troops in the Tavush region. It is stated that as a result of the attack, Azerbaijani troops suffered losses, and the attack itself was successfully repulsed. The message was disseminated by the press service of the defense department of the Republic of Armenia.


Press Secretary of the Armenian Defense Ministry - on Facebook:

The Armenian side has no losses.

It was also added that several Azeri special forces "were trapped." What exactly was meant, and whether they were taken, is not reported.

These statements were almost immediately commented on by the Azerbaijani side. The head of the press secretariat of the department stated that all the statements of the Armenian Ministry of Defense are "invention and disinformation." At the same time, Baku accused Yerevan of shelling the adjacent territory by the Armenian army. Azerbaijan notes that the statements of the press service of the Armenian Ministry of Defense were made in order to try to justify firing from positions in the area of ​​Anvakh.

Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

We call on the Azerbaijani media not to succumb to provocations, not to replicate false information spread by the Armenian press and to expose the enemy's disinformation.

To remind, the Armenian-Azerbaijani armed confrontation resumed on July 12. At the same time, the parties, which have already become customary for both Yerevan and Baku, see the exclusively opposite side as the culprit in the current situation. At the same time, the question is not even raised that this kind of tension on the border, by definition, cannot be in the interests of both republics.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 July 2020 06: 35 New
    +6
    At the same time, the question is not even raised that this kind of tension on the border, by definition, cannot be in the interests of both republics.
    But how to say. Armenia is interested in maintaining the status quo. Azerbaijan wants to return the lost territories, which is understandable. Therefore, it is they who always start the showdown. repeat
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 22 July 2020 06: 41 New
      +6
      Armenia is interested in maintaining the status quo. Azerbaijan wants to return the lost territories, which is understandable.

      Frozen and sluggish conflict ... you can always pedal it at the right moment by clicking on the right point.
    2. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 06: 49 New
      +5
      Armenia has been in deep political and economic crisis for a very long time. And to distract the people from him, a "small victorious war" is needed. Even if it is victorious only in the media space.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 22 July 2020 07: 00 New
        +7
        Well, in Azerbaijan, it's not better either ... the coronavirus has put everyone on the ears.
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 07: 54 New
          +3
          In general, it is better in Azerbaijan. And in Armenia the problems began long before the crown
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 July 2020 07: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: ZeevZeev
        a "small victorious war" is needed.

        fool fool What do you drink at night, who do you work for? This war, 100% destruction of Armenia.
        1. AML
          AML 22 July 2020 08: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: ZeevZeev
          a "small victorious war" is needed.

          fool fool What do you drink at night, who do you work for? This war, 100% destruction of Armenia.

          Well, as if Armenia is in the CSTO, so I would not make such unequivocal statements.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 22 July 2020 08: 59 New
            +5
            The CSTO (perhaps?) Will protect the borders of Armenia. and NKarabakh is outside the recognized borders of Armenia. fork
          2. Zeev
            Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 09: 00 New
            +1
            Well, as if last time, in 2016, all CSTO members (except for the Russian Federation) unequivocally supported Azerbaijan.
            1. Stavros
              Stavros 22 July 2020 10: 53 New
              +1
              It's funny to see when in Armenian-Azerbaijani topics the Jewish special forces rushes to the aid of the Azerbaijanis, as the topic concerns Jews with Arabs, the Azerbaijani special forces disappear there) I wonder if the Jews clash with the Turks, on whose side will our brave Azerbaijani askars be?)
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 22 July 2020 14: 15 New
                0
                Jews and Turks will never, in any case, never fight. In the future, peace in the east will be based on the alliance of Jews and Turks, just as the Khazar Kaganate ruled at one time. The friendship between Azerbaijan and Israel should be looked at in this context. Armenians will be subjects of this. kaganate, those who did not have time to go to Sochi and Pyatigorsk, in the future, another "historical land" of the sufferers.
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 22 July 2020 16: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: Oquzyurd
                  Jews and Turks will never, in any case, fight

                  Never say never... wink
                  Quote: Oquzyurd
                  In the future, peace in the east will be based on the alliance of Jews and Turks, just as the Khazar Kaganate ruled in due time.

                  Here we must understand that the Turks in the Khazar Kaganate were on the sidelines and, in fact, in a subordinate position. Read, you can Gumilyov, expands the horizon. Again, the Turks and Turks are somewhat different, but for you this is apparently a trifle. However, if you want so badly, then obey request
                  The friendship between Azerbaijan and Israel should be viewed in this context.

                  laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 26 July 2020 19: 48 New
                    -1
                    "that the Turks in the Khazar Kaganate were on the sidelines" belay In the Khazar Kaganate, the founders of the Turks. In the reign were Turks, representatives of the Hunnic, Ugric and other tribes. Only a part of them adopted the faith of Judaism. laughing They drove themselves into the background, and ruled by themselves, right? laughing
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 26 July 2020 19: 56 New
                      0
                      Quote: Oquzyurd
                      "that the Turks in the Khazar Kaganate were on the sidelines" In the Khazar Kaganate, the founders of the Türks were in the reign. There were Türks, representatives of the Hunnic, Ugric and other tribes. Only a part of them accepted the faith of Judaism. They drove themselves into the background, and ruled by themselves, right?

                      Sometimes you need to read more. Educate yourself. I don’t do an educational program. wink
                      1. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 26 July 2020 19: 57 New
                        -1
                        I am reading, and I made this conclusion from what I read)
                      2. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 26 July 2020 20: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: Oquzyurd
                        I am reading, and I made this conclusion from what I read)

                        Gumilyov wrote well about the Turks in general, and about the Khazar Kaganate, and about Russia, and about the Cossacks. As if an educational program. They did not dare to argue with him during his lifetime, the authority was too high, they threw mud at him "behind the eyes" and especially after death. Read what laudatory ode a Russian wrote about the Turks. Expand your horizon.
                      3. Oquzyurd
                        Oquzyurd 26 July 2020 21: 58 New
                        -1
                        Gumilyov is a great scientist, and the closest to the truth about the Turks.
                        "Read what laudatory ode a Russian wrote about the Turks." Yes, this is so. I will add that he is also very brave. In Russia everyone is associated with the Mongols, and before the Mongols and after in history, darkness, as for the Turks. As if there were no Turks in this space. Very few mentions. , and then in the form of a negative. A long topic that requires thorough analysis and study. I associate this with competition, for the same space. For example, if the Europeans fight, they are an enemy force, enemies, but not as competitors in space. Turks, they are local, from the same space, therefore, competitors. Therefore, there is little mention of them, not noticing them, since mentioning them gives rise to a competitor in the historical space .. An easy way, not to notice them in the depths of history, or to turn them into Mongols , not radiating from themselves "danger" for many centuries.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 22 July 2020 09: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: AML
        Well, as if Armenia is in the CSTO, so I would not make such unequivocal statements.

        Nagorno-Karabakh is also in the CSTO, or did the territories that belonged to Azerbaijan and were occupied by Armenia manage to enter?
        1. AML
          AML 22 July 2020 10: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: AML
          Well, as if Armenia is in the CSTO, so I would not make such unequivocal statements.

          Nagorno-Karabakh is also in the CSTO, or did the territories that belonged to Azerbaijan and were occupied by Armenia manage to enter?


          And what matters to Karabakh?
          Everything mixed in a heap - horses, people
      4. Tank hard
        Tank hard 22 July 2020 16: 20 New
        -2
        Quote: AML

        Well, as if Armenia is in the CSTO, so I would not make such unequivocal statements.

        Well, as if there is such an opinion, many will not like it, but it is:
    3. bayard
      bayard 22 July 2020 08: 30 New
      14
      If Azerbaijan was the initiator of the conflict, it would start it in Karabakh - there it is in its own right. But the skirmishes began much to the north on the DIRECT border of Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the Armenian media themselves claim that the Armenian side was the first to open fire - at the UAZ with the Azerbaijani military.
      And the threats to attack infrastructure facilities, and even the dam of the Mingachevir hydroelectric power station were directly from the officials of the Armenian side.
      So who instigated all this?
      And the goals of this foolishness and abomination must be sought a little further and higher. Armenia is only listed in the CSTO, but at the same time is VERY tightly connected with the British special services and the US special services, so isn't it all in their interests?
      And doesn't the Armenian administration want to drag Russia into this abomination? Say, "I was attacked", "I am not guilty"?
      Is it in our interests to stand up for these swindlers?
      On the wrong side?
      Moreover, their representatives ran immediately for help not only to Moscow, but also to NATO headquarters ...
      Do we need such an ally?
      And is this our ally?
      Look at what embassy (complex of buildings) the United States has built in Yerevan, which is not at all the size of the host state. This is the snake nest of their intelligence. And not only against Iran, but also against us - whom they (Armenia) call the guarantor of their security!
      This is just the height of arrogance and deceit.

      Moreover, if the initiator of the conflict were the Azerbaijani side (no matter where it was conceived), there would probably already be a REAL conflict, for which Azerbaijan (and Armenia as well) has enough funds.
      But the conflict is sluggish, with periodic skirmishes across the border line ...
      Something doesn't add up.
      With Armenian tales.
      1. the finish
        the finish 22 July 2020 08: 51 New
        +1
        On the part of Armenia, a statement about the dam was made by the former Minister of Defense of the 90s, on the part of Azerbaijan by the current official press secretary of the Defense Ministry, Dairakhly. Who is the official at the moment? Don't mislead people with your posts!
        1. Scorpio05
          Scorpio05 22 July 2020 19: 59 New
          +2
          In fact, the Armenians at any level are making statements that they intend to destroy the Mingechevir hydroelectric power station in Azerbaijan, as well as Baku, by the way. The Armenians have been planning this for a long time; they call their "strategy" theirs. They seriously think that a strike on the largest CIVIL hydro-technical structure in the region is an integral part of the war. They are just sick people.
          And how was it possible in general to give people known for their predilection to blow up civilian objects, including: metro (in Moscow and Baku (twice) and airports (Orly, Paris), Azerbaijani trains, sea ferries, civil aircraft and helicopters) powerful weapons like Iskander and Elbrus?
          The statement of the highest Armenian military ranks made in 2018!
          "The Defense Army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) will immediately strike at the Mingechevir hydroelectric power station in Azerbaijan, if the need arises," Head of the NKR Defense Ministry Lieutenant General Levon Mnatsakanyan said at a press conference in Stepanakert on Tuesday, July 24.

          The Karabakh military leader said that the Mingechevir hydroelectric power station was included in the tactical plans of the NKR Defense Army as a target. “The art of war requires striking similar and military targets. This will damage the economy and exclude the possibility of providing the enemy's armed forces with adequate resources. This facility is included in our plans, "Mnatsakanyan said.
          Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/07/24/armiya-oborony-nkr-preduprezhdaet-esli-nado-udarim-i-po-mingechaurskoy-ges?fbclid=IwAR3-aZ8R1gEfE9yA55JEgmN1HfTRve2zdGzs3eurNouLNndINqtvLeuDFSo
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 July 2020 09: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: bayard
        And the threats to attack infrastructure facilities, and even the dam of the Mingachevir hydroelectric power station were directly from the officials of the Armenian side.

        I would still like to find out the full names of these very officials and their posts. And then we have been talking about some official anonymous for a week.
        1. Scorpio05
          Scorpio05 22 July 2020 20: 03 New
          0
          Please:
          The statement of the highest Armenian military ranks made in 2018! Prior to that, the same statement was made in 2014 by the Minister of Defense of Armenia Vagharshak Harutyunyan. As you know, the strategy does not change (if one can call such cannibalism a strategy), the executors change ...

          "The Defense Army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) will immediately strike at the Mingechevir hydroelectric power station in Azerbaijan, if the need arises," Head of the NKR Defense Ministry Lieutenant General Levon Mnatsakanyan said at a press conference in Stepanakert on Tuesday, July 24.

          The Karabakh military leader said that the Mingechevir hydroelectric power station was included in the tactical plans of the NKR Defense Army as a target. “The art of war requires striking similar and military targets. This will damage the economy and exclude the possibility of providing the enemy's armed forces with adequate resources. This facility is included in our plans, "Mnatsakanyan said.
          Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/07/24/armiya-oborony-nkr-preduprezhdaet-esli-nado-udarim-i-po-mingechaurskoy-ges?fbclid=IwAR3-aZ8R1gEfE9yA55JEgmN1HfTRve2zdGzs3eurNouLNndINqtvLeuDFSo
      3. genisis
        genisis 22 July 2020 10: 42 New
        -1
        You should tighten up the materiel slightly, and you flog nonsense.
        Azerbaijan has been shelling the territory of the Tavush region of Armenia incessantly since the 2000s. Civilian infrastructure came under fire all the time, and the military came under fire from time to time. To check my words, it is enough to write in the search line of Google “Azerbaijan fired at Tavush marz in Armenia in 2012” You can specify any year, in the interval from 2008 to 2019, because Azerbaijan attacked this section of the state border with Armenia almost every week these years. In 2019, the soldiers of the 3rd Army Corps of the Armenian Armed Forces under the command of the then Colonel Georgy Yuryevich Khachaturov took a number of actions, thanks to which the civilian population was ensured safety from shelling by the Azerbaijani side. And this year, the guys of the 3rd Army Corps of the Armenian Armed Forces under the command of Major General Georgy Yuryevich Khachaturov once again, but already much more sensitively changed their positions in relation to the Azerbaijan ones. It was the quality of the changes in the Armenian positions that caused such a fierce reaction from the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. To the credit of the Armenian Armed Forces, they held their ground.
        Further pouring mud on Armenia in general has no connection with reality.
        They say the size of the US embassy is a confirmation that the Americans are conducting intelligence from the territory of Armenia and against the Russian Federation as well. First, so that you know, in Yerevan, the second largest Chinese embassy after the one opened in Russia. Does this mean that the Chinese also run the government of Armenia? And secondly, do you know anything about the size of the premises and, in general, about the location of the "Armenia" FSB border department, which is definitely carrying out intelligence activities in the interests of the Russian Federation from the territory of the Republic of Armenia in relation to Turkey and Iran?
        So tie a square. meters to measure the intensity of exploration, otherwise you will always be confused in a decent society.
        With regard to Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty. Neither Armenia nor its representatives resorted to this article. Otherwise, you would have had a chance to observe with your own eyes the coercion of Azerbaijan to peace by the armed forces of the Russian Federation. And not because the leadership of the Russian Federation likes the leadership of Armenia or the Armenian people, and does not like the Azerbaijani. But because Russia keeps its word, it complies with its contractual obligations.
        Your definition of the "wrong" side in the conflict, whose historical roots go back centuries, betray you as an engaged person, whose subjectivism is divorced from reality, and therefore does not carry any informational value.
        1. bayard
          bayard 22 July 2020 12: 46 New
          +2
          Your (Armenian) sources themselves testified that it was your military who opened the fire, deploying positions at the dominant height (or heights) the day before. The fire was opened on a lonely UAZ vehicle with the Azerbaijani military.
          Since this all started .
          And there were no reports that the day before there were shelling from the Azerbaijani side.
          I even received photographs of that UAZ vehicle stopped by the fire and the Azerbaijani soldiers who came out of it were sent by your retired colonel ... now he lives in Spain. And I sent the screenshots from your Russian-language sites, where this event is described as I described it - the Armenians took a new position at the height, and when a military UAZ appeared, circling the border zone, fire was opened on it.
          The UAZ was thrown, perhaps it was shot through by the engine.
          So who should blush for such antics?
          And you don't have to teach me the history of your conflict. The one that began in 1990 (in fact, you can call the turn of 1987-88), developed before my eyes. I served there then.
          And you can't fool me with falsifying the facts, because my service was held as part of the intelligence and information center of the air defense unit. And we had enough information.
          And I know the background of your conflict well.
          And about your Dashnaks.
          And he held their certificates in his hands - with a map of "Great Armenia" on a spread - from Lebanon to Baku.
          So I have no commitment. Moreover, there is a friend whose grandmother barely escaped as a child from the massacre of the Kurds incited on the Armenian villages (their village stood on the banks of the Van, I forgot the name. He is the son of a Don Cossack, and his grandmother is an Armenian, a refugee from the Van region.
          But I know everything about the roots of your conflict. On duty, including.
          And you will definitely not like my knowledge.
          And to shoot across the border at border guards of a neighboring state is bestiality. And you have nothing to justify with.
          1. genisis
            genisis 22 July 2020 13: 53 New
            -1
            I wrote that the soldiers of the 3rd Army Corps of the Armed Forces of Armenia moved forward and improved their positions. Indeed, the UAZ with the Azerbaijani military was fired upon. Where did you read that there were shelling by Azerbaijani servicemen the day before? These attacks lasted 11 years. In the end, the Armenian soldiers deprived the Azerbaijani of the opportunity to carry out such attacks.
            If you think that one should blush for such actions, then excuse me, I disagree with you. It is necessary to blush that these actions were not taken earlier.
            The fact that you use the word "dashnaks" perfectly illustrates what information your "intelligence and information center" possessed. I am sure that Safronov and Polyanichko used the same information.
            With regard to the events of that stage, it is better for you to argue with a person who was no worse informed, and many times better than yours. For example, with Viktor Vladimirovich Krivopuskov, the author of the book "Rebellious Karabakh", who at that time served as chief of staff of the Investigative-Operational Group of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs in the NKAO. I don’t know where your center was stationed, but the headquarters of the group was in Stepanakert from the very beginning of the conflict.
            If you think you can refute it, I would love to read your point of view.
            As for the shooting at border guards across the border and your definition of this - "bestiality", I'm sorry, but again I have to ignore your opinion.
            It is maximally engaged. I have never once met a reproach against the Azerbaijani side in your comments. Blaming the Armenians one-sidedly, are you sure that Azerbaijanis are saints?
            1. bayard
              bayard 22 July 2020 15: 40 New
              +4
              I had enough complaints against the Azerbaijanis during the events of January 1990, but then this problem was solved quickly and decisively. And many Azerbaijanis were grateful to us for the quick restoration of order.
              It was then that a similar constitutional order was not established in Armenia, where it all began.
              And if you tell me what kind of sabotage group, on two Mi-8s, tried to blow up the oil and gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to Armenia (we prevented them), and why it retreated to Stepanokert ..., I will answer you why the culprits of the Karabakh conflict were initially and in general, I consider it the Armenian side.
              And her diaspora.
              1. genisis
                genisis 23 July 2020 00: 27 New
                -1
                You know, to say that in January 1990 anti-Armenian pogroms and murders were dealt with in Baku “quickly and decisively” - this is an outrageous level of cynicism. So quickly and so decisively that there have simply been no Armenians in Baku since then.
                In this sense, yes, quickly and decisively. Faster than the Nazis, by the way.
                If by the restoration of constitutional order is meant the entry of troops into Baku under the command of Lebed, then I don’t remember why you think the same thing should have happened in Yerevan. Well, there were no pogroms and murders in Yerevan, bloody weekly bacchanals.
                As for the reconnaissance and sabotage groups that you are asking to tell us about, I will tell you directly: "It is impossible to find a black cat in a dark room when it is not there." Considering that I do not have reliable information in general about the existence of such a group, I would venture to suggest that the existence of this group is a myth. You can try to prove otherwise.
                You consider the Armenians to be the culprits of the conflict. I would venture to suggest that you see their guilt in the fact that they did not want to repeat the fate of the Armenian population of Nakhichevan, that is, disappear from their native land, but began to fight for it.
                And I will tell you who is the real culprit of this conflict. His name was Heydar Aliyev. It was he who was the ideological inspirer, developer and main implementer of a set of actions that led to the complete squeezing of Armenians from Nakhichevan. It was his attempts to do the same with the NKAO that led to what we have now.
                And your accusations against the Armenians are a standard substitution of a reason for a consequence.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 23 July 2020 08: 13 New
                  +1
                  Quote: genisis
                  You know, to say that in January 1990 anti-Armenian pogroms and murders were dealt with in Baku “quickly and decisively” - this is an outrageous level of cynicism. So quickly and so decisively that there have simply been no Armenians in Baku since then.

                  The pogroms in Baku began on January 13, 1990 (before that, on January 11, power was seized by the "popular front" in Lankaran), the local government was eliminated. During the week there was a transfer of troops to Azerbaijan, their accumulation, 17 helicopter regiments were transferred (42 - 48 helicopters in each) within one day, families of military personnel were evacuated from military towns. The military units received and sheltered Armenian refugees.
                  The decision was made in Moscow, but with Gorbachev's antics and quirks.
                  On the morning of January 20, 1990, power in Baku was restored, order was established. The operation was personally led by Marshal Yazov. His report to Gorbachev on the restoration of constitutional order went through our communications center.
                  The Armenians were evacuated to other regions of the USSR, providing security, at the places of accommodation they immediately received help from the local authorities - housing, all the necessary things for life and material assistance. The generosity of this aid depended on the capabilities and impulse of the authorities of the regions of settlement.
                  At the expense of the state!
                  And as for the fact that after January 1990 there were no Armenians left in Baku ... tell me, how many Azerbaijanis at the time of 1988 (!) Remained in Yerevan and Armenia as such?
                  And how did it happen that they were not there, although in 1987 there were up to 150 thousand of them?
                  So don't confuse cause and effect.
                  At the end of 1989, the Supreme Soviet of the Armenian SSR declared Nagorno-Karabakh de facto its territory and included it in Armenia's economic development plan for 1990.
                  These two events - the expulsion of the Azerbaijani population and the proclamation of N. Karabakh as one of them - became the detonator of the events of January 1990.
                  I have already written about my attitude to these events.
                  Quote: genisis
                  If the establishment of constitutional order means the introduction of troops into Baku under the command of Lebed,

                  But this already testifies to the level of your ... awareness - Colonel Lebed was then the commander of ONE of the airborne divisions involved for that operation. And the Airborne Division was not alone.
                  And at least three.
                  And there were other troops - internal, as well as mobilized reservists.
                  And he commanded the operation PERSONALLY D.T. Yazov. And also many commanders and commanders of the branches of the armed forces visited there during the January events. yes
                  Lebed had not even received a general at that time.
                  Quote: genisis
                  I don’t remember why you think the same thing should have happened in Yerevan.

                  Because riots in Armenia began much earlier, including attacks on small military units, looting of military enlistment offices and DOSAF warehouses, public burning of Soviet passports, obtaining weapons, explosives and equipment under the guise of humanitarian aid after the earthquake in Spitak.
                  All this happened before (much earlier) the January events in Baku in 1990.
                  And remind me, who from your community organized the explosions of "goose girls" in the Moscow Metro?
                  And how many people died then?
                  Quote: genisis
                  As for the reconnaissance and sabotage groups that you are asking to tell us about, I will tell you directly: "It is impossible to find a black cat in a dark room when it is not there." Considering that I do not have reliable information in general about the existence of such a group, I would venture to suggest that the existence of this group is a myth. You can try to prove otherwise.

                  Why should I try if I myself took part in that event. Not only that - readiness when an unidentified target is detected near the border, it was I who announced - it happened on my alert duty.
                  And the fact that in Imishli and Kurdamir we had Mi-24s with excellent Afghan-trained crews on duty (from Afghanistan, after being withdrawn to our division, a squadron of Mi-24 was assigned) turned out to be very useful. It was these helicopters that carried out the interception.
                  And the saboteurs had already tied the pipes of oil and gas pipelines with explosives, only they did not have time to connect the detonators - they were lying nearby in a backpack. As the KGB officers said from the scene, if it had been for one or two more minutes, the pipeline would have been blown up.
                  And these two Mi-8s with saboteurs saw the approach of our Mi-24s (one of the Mi-8s went up to observe - we found it locally). Our helicopter pilots did not have time to force or destroy (the order was given to the crews) these helicopters - the targets were already over Stepanokert, where they landed.
                  In the central square.
                  No freezing.
                  And the terrorists from them immediately fled.
                  But this episode was immediately classified by Gorbachev and Kryuchkov.
                  Quote: genisis
                  And I will tell you who is the real culprit of this conflict. His name was Heydar Aliyev. It was he who was the ideological inspirer, developer and main implementer of the set of actions,

                  You should look for your analogues for Aliev. lol
                  Aliyev is the same nominee of Andropov as Shevardnadze. It was Andropov who cultivated that Union destroyer nursery:
                  Gorbachev
                  Shevardnadze
                  Yakovlev and others, which are innumerable.
                  So there is nothing to be missing in fragments - there were all the first persons in the share.
                  And Armenia was the first among the destroyers of the Union - even the "proud Balts" lagged behind it.
                  And again we remember the goose-girl in the Moscow Metro and the burning of Soviet passports at rallies in Yerevan in winter from 1984 to 1985. wink
                  I warned you - you will not like my arguments.
                  But I am not in the least engaged with the Azerbaijani side. smile
                  bully
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 26 July 2020 22: 06 New
                    0
                    What you wrote is enough to understand the essence of this conflict, what happened in those years. Thank you for the truth.
              2. Karenius
                Karenius 23 July 2020 10: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: bayard
                And if you tell me what kind of sabotage group, on two Mi-8s, it tried to blow up the oil and gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to Armenia (we prevented them), and why it retreated to Stepanokert ...

                Did the Armenians try to blow up the oil pipeline to Armenia? Gee-gee ... Something like a theatrical performance of Muscovites, where all the roles are distributed among their actors, and everything will end with a happy ending :)
                ____
                When a gas pipeline was blown up in Georgia, ours sent their tracks.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 23 July 2020 11: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Karenius
                  Did the Armenians try to blow up the oil pipeline to Armenia? Gee-gee ...

                  Why is it surprising? To escalate the conflict you couldn't think of anything better, and the saboteurs retreated to Stepanokert, I watched this live with our radar control equipment. Yes, and our helicopters - the ones that intercepted them, our navigator controlled - from our command post.
                  Quote: Karenius
                  Something like a theatrical performance of Muscovites, where all the roles are distributed among their actors

                  Everything is possible, but in whose interests this sabotage was planned? And we were definitely not aware of such a pretentious operation of the special services, otherwise we would not have thwarted this disgrace.
                  The matter is, of course, murky, but if you remember to whose mill Gorbachev poured the water then, whom he protected, and with his bestial behavior provoked disorder throughout Azerbaijan ... anything is possible.
                  Moreover, the day after the incident, I was advised to "forget about it all." wink
                  Everything went according to the scenario of the collapse of the USSR, and this is just one of the episodes of that scenario.
                  1. Karenius
                    Karenius 23 July 2020 12: 07 New
                    +2
                    The head of the Special Department of the Caspian Flotilla did not spare his throat, fiddling with Moscow that everything was being done to set the country on fire ...
                  2. bayard
                    bayard 23 July 2020 14: 48 New
                    0
                    Yes, many then sounded the alarm, reported to Moscow. Only the most important arsonist of the USSR was Gorbachev and the "Andropov Guard".
                    I was even offered to participate in the conspiracy to overthrow Gorbachev ...
                  3. Karenius
                    Karenius 23 July 2020 15: 06 New
                    +2
                    Quote: bayard
                    was Gorbachev

                    Gorby plowed to the tune of the Karaite woman Raisa ... This is what is defined by the term "institution of Jewish wives" ...
                  4. bayard
                    bayard 23 July 2020 16: 01 New
                    0
                    A very active institute. yes
                    Time-tested effectiveness. bully
                  5. Karenius
                    Karenius 23 July 2020 16: 08 New
                    +2
                    We had the same judo ... The wife of the first local president ... She let the young from the secret police into her bed, and then asked him to do this and that, which the lucky one did with zeal ...
                    Today her relatives from our Foreign Ministry are in favor of breaking off our relations with the Russian Federation :)
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  2. Karenius
    Karenius 23 July 2020 10: 53 New
    0
    Quote: bayard
    And I know the background of your conflict well.
    And about your Dashnaks.
    And he held their certificates in his hands - with a map of "Great Armenia" on a spread - from Lebanon to Baku.

    In fact, all these parties were controlled by the strong intelligence services of the world ... If the Dashnaks were financed by Britain before the Bolsheviks conquered Armenia, then the Chekists probably intercepted it ... And the Dashnak biographer Hovhannisyan actually claims that ASALA was engaged in terror to the tune of the Chekists. ..
    1. bayard
      bayard 23 July 2020 11: 33 New
      +1
      And the train in the Moscow Metro was "gosyatnitsa", did your Dashnaks (belonging to the investigation) also blew up under the leadership of the Cheka?
      As they were led by MI-6, so to this day they are its unit.
      1. Karenius
        Karenius 23 July 2020 11: 40 New
        -1
        In this information, nowhere did I see the performer's belonging to the Dashnaks ... He worked as an ordinary welder ... And Zatikyan, as I vaguely remember, was registered with Paruyr Hayrikyan, maybe I'm confusing ... And Hayrikyan is an old corrupt scum, could calmly work for the Moscow security officers ...
        1. bayard
          bayard 23 July 2020 14: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Karenius
          Hayrikyan is an old corrupt scum, he could easily work for the Moscow security officers ...

          belay In Moscow? !!
          Are you out of your mind?
          And why are you so holding on to Russia and the CSTO, since it has been led by a "Moscow Chekist" for 20 years?
          Quote: Karenius

          The Dashnaks were created by the Zionists, and the Dashnaks were ruled by the burr ... It was in the interests of world Zionism that they plowed in the top of the Dashnaks ... A rare scum ...

          Vooot, it's already much warmer.
          "Bnei Brit and Bnei Zion -
          twins brothers.
          Which one is more than the mother of history
          valuable?
          We say MI6, we hear -
          City of london
          We say Israel, in deed we see
          Armenia. "

          It just so happened that the fighting wing of your "Armenian revolution" model 1987 - 1991. they were the Dashnaks. Therefore, the certificates from the killed militants were removed. And the leaders of your independence were also exclusive - they.
          And Pashinyan, as far as I heard, is directly related to this organization.

          And for normal Armenians ... it's a shame.
          1. Karenius
            Karenius 23 July 2020 15: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: bayard
            In Moscow? !!
            Are you out of your mind?
            And why are you so holding on to Russia and the CSTO, since it has been led by a "Moscow Chekist" for 20 years?

            In his own, in his ... When I write "Moscow Chekists" - I mean that there were two wings working there: the Russian wing, the imperial wing, and the judo wing, which worked for the collapse of the USSR empire ...

            "Moscow Chekist" has been running for 20 years? ... Earlier I wrote that I agree with the opinion of Aleksey Mozgovoy that servants of Jewish oligarchs are sitting in the Kremlin ... You see, not Russians, but servants ...

            Quote: bayard
            It just so happened that the fighting wing of your "Armenian revolution" model 1987 - 1991. they were the Dashnaks. Therefore, the certificates from the killed militants were removed. And the leaders of your independence were also exclusive - they.

            There was no such thing ... The Dashnaks were nothing ... And they were led by the Chekists ... I can also show in which building, which belonged to the Chekists, they "worked" ... In Armenia, the movement was led by the proteges of Zionism ... And very patriotic Armenians mostly died in the war of the 90s, and it became easier for the Zionists / Khazars to spread rot on Armenia ...
            Pashinyan is apparently from the same Zionist hireling team, in which his predecessors, the robik and serzhik, obligingly plowed ... (you remember that just a robik was seated on the throne by the defeat of our patriotic power, organized by your judoCVR). That is why he does not touch them ...
          2. bayard
            bayard 23 July 2020 15: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Karenius
            ... When I write "Moscow Chekists" I mean that there were two wings working there: the Russian wing, the imperial wing, and the judo wing, which worked for the collapse of the USSR empire ...

            Well, if so, then perhaps I agree with you.
            But why call them "Moscow"? Let it be simple
            Quote: Karenius
            judo-wing,

            , such in London, and in Washington, and in Tel Aviv - all chicks of the same nest.
    2. Karenius
      Karenius 23 July 2020 11: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: bayard
      As they were led by MI-6, so to this day they are its unit.

      The Dashnaks were created by the Zionists, and the Dashnaks were ruled by the burr ... It was in the interests of world Zionism that they plowed in the top of the Dashnaks ... A rare scum ...
  • Zeev
    Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 08: 56 New
    0
    Firstly, no one is going to seize Yerevan, not even Turkey. Genocide is not in vogue these days, and no one needs to leave under their rule and feed 2.5 million disloyal population, having no real return from this. Secondly, Armenia does not want a full-scale war either, but I really want to show (first of all, to its population) that "it is difficult for us, but we won the best of all and all".
  • siberalt
    siberalt 22 July 2020 08: 21 New
    0
    Armenia may be in crisis, but it has never officially recognized NPOs as part of its territory. So, you have an obvious discrepancy here. And it is clear to Azerbaijan for 30 years that they will never return Karabakh from the word. Yes, and at the time of gaining independence by Azerbaijan, Karabakh was no longer their territory in fact.
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 09: 12 New
      +2
      I would not be so sure that Karabakh will not return to Azerbaijan.
  • Finches
    Finches 22 July 2020 09: 08 New
    -3
    Yes! I am also inclined to believe that the main reason for what happened is the internal contradictions of society, both Armenian and Azerbaijani! The coronavirus pandemic has caused significant damage to the economies of both countries. Armenia did not prosper before, plus the active work of agents of influence of the Anglo-Saxons, and Baku suffered significant losses due to the collapse of oil prices - and this is the main source of funds! The quarantine struck a blow to the sales of tomatoes ... Here the nerves of the management could not resist, realizing that a social explosion was on the way, they decided to rattle their weapons! In addition, Baku publicly supported Erdogan, and without Turkey's support, Azerbaijan does not even dare to go to the closet on its own.
  • icant007
    icant007 22 July 2020 19: 21 New
    -1
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Therefore, it is they who always start the showdown.


    Who are they? Azerbaijan?
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 22 July 2020 07: 16 New
    +3
    Tales are told on both sides.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 22 July 2020 08: 54 New
      -3
      I would listen to tales about the demarcation of borders between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
      Is there a border between countries fixed by treaties or in the UN (I don't know exactly how this is done)? And not approved by the godless Bolsheviks, but democratically formed?
      1. alone
        alone 22 July 2020 09: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: Pereira
        I would have listened to tales about the demarcation of borders between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
        Is there a border between countries fixed by treaties or in the UN (I don't know exactly how this is done)? And not approved by the godless Bolsheviks, but democratically formed?

        All former Soviet republics were admitted to the UN within the boundaries that they had during the USSR. You can ask for sources.
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        2. Pereira
          Pereira 22 July 2020 10: 18 New
          +2
          Some time ago there was a lot of noise that the borders of Russia with Ukraine were not coordinated and illegal.
          A border within a common state is one thing. International borders are different. As I understand the demarcation of borders between Armenia and Azerbaijan, there were no independent states.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 July 2020 07: 41 New
    +9
    marasmus grows stronger ... Maidan Pashinyan ... needs a scandal and war instead of tedious work on the prosperity of Armenia and solving long-term political / territorial jambs ... with serious risks, he will fall over the hill ... and Russia will save the people (under their spitting) ...
  • tarabar
    tarabar 22 July 2020 08: 01 New
    10
    I never thought that I would say so, but in today's situation, the balanced position of Azerbaijan is somehow more credible than the hysterical throwing of the Armenian leadership, they were attacked everywhere, they all won, there are no losses. Apparently this is a generic trait of young, promising democracies. We will probably find out the truth of what is happening much later.
    1. Stavros
      Stavros 22 July 2020 08: 48 New
      -1
      Because it is impossible to hide something there, the country is small. In addition, the entire press and TV are in the hands of former thieves and crooks, and if they had lost the first they would have raised a howl.
  • the finish
    the finish 22 July 2020 08: 02 New
    +1
    Attempts to recapture the height are even possible. she is of great importance and controls vast territories!
    1. alone
      alone 22 July 2020 08: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: finish
      Attempts to recapture the height are even possible. she is of great importance and controls vast territories!

      The height is at Azerbaijan. Why fight back what is in your hands? These positions have been there since 1991, as they were with Azerbaijan, and they are still with Azerbaijan.
      1. the finish
        the finish 22 July 2020 08: 56 New
        -2
        Incorrect information. This height is not in the hands of Azerbaijan or its territory. Since the times of the USSR, it has been part of the Armenian SSR. And the translation of the height Anvakh (Armenian) is Fearless.
        1. alone
          alone 22 July 2020 09: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: finish
          Incorrect information. This height is not in the hands of Azerbaijan or its territory. Since the times of the USSR, it has been part of the Armenian SSR. And the translation of the height Anvakh (Armenian) is Fearless.

          Of course, you know better from a thousand kilometers who has something under control. The configuration of positions is such that the loss of positions means withdrawal from the entire territory. .I mean the height which is called the Black Rock (Karakai). What is on the territory of Armenia cannot be attacked or captured. As well as the Azerbaijani positions. If he goes over, he is an open aggressor. Both sides understand this.
        2. Stavros
          Stavros 22 July 2020 14: 25 New
          +2
          There is nothing to prove to the winners of apricots and peaches.
  • Stavros
    Stavros 22 July 2020 08: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    Look at what embassy (complex of buildings) the United States built in Yerevan, not at all the size of the state

    Something at the time of Kocharyan, as he is considered a great friend of Moscow, everyone absolutely did not care about the largest embassy, ​​at the time of Pashinyan, for some reason everyone was startled by this problem.
    Now the Chinese are also going to build the largest embassy in Yerevan. What prevents Russia from keeping a huge staff there.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 July 2020 20: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Stavros
      What prevents Russia from keeping a huge staff there.

      But why?
      1. Karenius
        Karenius 23 July 2020 15: 54 New
        0
        I said earlier ... This embassy also serves the Iranians ... the size naturally increased ...
        And more ... In the embassy, ​​many are engaged in business, and after a business trip they stay here with their business ... people from there told me that the embassy employees who worked here in their homeland were lying that they worked in the Asiatic, although everything is safe here. was on the level ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 July 2020 09: 06 New
    +1
    Both sides declare that they have neither attacked nor attacked. Then they declare that they have no losses, and the enemy has losses in piles. Finally, both sides declare that they have won. Strange wars have gone on in the 21st century. what
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 09: 47 New
      +5
      The Armenians stated that they started the conflict by firing at a lost Azerbaijani army vehicle. Azerbaijan acknowledged all its losses and published the names of those killed. The Armenians hid their losses to the last and published only four names. Moreover, after these names were published in Baku. In short, the Armenians in this case are great storytellers.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 22 July 2020 09: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: ZeevZeev
    Well, as if last time, in 2016, all CSTO members (except for the Russian Federation) unequivocally supported Azerbaijan.

    RF.
    That says it all.
    Russia maintains peace, especially among its own neighbors.
    There will be no big war.
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 22 July 2020 09: 52 New
      +2
      And nobody wants a big war. Azerbaijan wants to return its own (Karabakh and adjacent territories captured in the 90s), the Armenians need to distract the people from the internal problems of the country.
      By the way, thanks to Russia for supplying Iskander to Armenia. Thanks to this, Azerbaijan began purchasing missile defense systems and high-precision missiles with a range of more than 100 km. In Belarus (MLRS "Polonaise") and in Israel (EXTRA and OTRK LORA missiles).
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 22 July 2020 10: 23 New
    -1
    It's funny to watch this car fuss from the side. The forces in power need this conflict on both sides. Both in Armenia and Azerbaijan there are problems and it was a matter of time to switch society to a win-win side for ratings. If this frozen conflict did not exist, it would have been invented. The only reason for tension there is the power of these states. The common people would have lived as they would have lived in their villages, but they had to come up with boundaries)
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 22 July 2020 10: 40 New
    +8
    And for me, so let them figure it out themselves. Armenia's participation in the CSTO is exclusively necessary for it, for political maneuvers. The course of the current Armenian government towards the United States, they hope for a powerful Armenian lobby and they do not hide it.
    Is it possible to forget that the Armenians arranged for the Russians in the 90s, and how many provocations and victims there were among our military, who refused to surrender their weapons. Today, Russian channels are banned in Armenia, an unprecedented campaign is being conducted in the media to discredit Russia. Nafik!
    We have smoother and more stable relations with Azerbaijan. 102 base? And what, in terms of Russia's defense, is it of strategic importance? Better to rent Cam Ranh from the Vietnamese.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 22 July 2020 12: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Better to rent Cam Ranh from the Vietnamese.

      The Americans are doing the right thing by placing their permanent bases - you need security, pay! At the same time, they do not cram into friends, but feel themselves in the country of location, at worst, in a privileged position, at best, masters.
  • Stavros
    Stavros 22 July 2020 12: 47 New
    -2
    Quote: Vladimir61
    We have smoother and more stable relations with Azerbaijan. 102 base? And what, in terms of Russia's defense, is it of strategic importance?

    Turks with half-Turks are already doing almost everything in Georgia, if Armenia falls and the Turks connect the borders with half-Turks and go further to Central Asia to create their Turan. Then, when they start to stir up the whole Caucasus and further along the border of Russia, only then will you understand what Armenia meant to you, and what significance the 102nd base had.
    1. icant007
      icant007 22 July 2020 19: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Stavros
      Turks with half-Turks are already doing almost everything in Georgia, if Armenia falls and the Turks connect the borders with half-Turks and go further to Central Asia creating their Turan

      And the Armenians are in full control in the Krasnodar Territory and the Rostov Region. Yes, and in the North Caucasian republics there are quite a few Armenians. Probably Great Armenia is created from sea to sea)

      Russia has already lost its influence in Armenia, and will continue to lose it. And the existence of the 102nd base is a matter of time.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 July 2020 21: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Stavros
      Turks with half-Turks are already doing almost everything in Georgia, if Armenia falls and the Turks connect the borders with half-Turks and go further to Central Asia to create their Turan. Then, when they start to stir up the whole Caucasus and further along the border of Russia, only then will you understand what Armenia meant to you, and what significance the 102nd base had.

      I am a curious individual. until I was interested, not interested. Then it became interesting, began to look for information and learned that Karabakh belonged to Azerbaijanis. Now the question is closed for me. Crimea was Russian, Karabakh was Azerbaijani. If you are for justice, be fair. If I'm wrong, let them justify. Peace for everyone. As they say, Peace to Your Home. hi
      1. Karenius
        Karenius 23 July 2020 11: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Then it became interesting, began to look for information and learned that Karabakh belonged to Azerbaijanis.

        It is when?
        From a relatively close time - the Karabakh melikates (principalities) were revived by Nadir Shah .. He, they write, was an ethnic Turk, but worked for the Armenians in this region ...
        Before that, the Karabakh people, together with the Georgians, agreed with Peter that they would deploy an army for joint actions with the Russian army ... But Peter deceived the Georgians and the Armenians, did not come as promised (well, just as it is shown in the will), and the Armenian Karabakh troops moved to RI ... Already in the militarily weakened Karabakh, the Armenians were invited to nominally rule the Turkic clan, Panakh ... In Shushi, their ancestral home was not the largest and highest, as the rules of leadership demanded then, and his army in quantitative terms never exceeded the Armenian component of the Karabakh army (the one that managed to fight against Georgia) ...
        We'll go further in time ... After the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia, Karabakh held congresses 7 or 8 times, and only in one of them, the penultimate one, declared its subordination to Baku (English General Thomson demanded) ...
        After the Sovietization, the Kremlin kibbutz decided everything, and the hands and power of Stalin came in handy ...

        Here, on the forum, they wrote that Stalin did not yet have influence ... But a person without great influence would not be able to telegraph to Lenin and in him Chicherin's actions were classified as "stupid" in relation to Turkey ...
  • Stavros
    Stavros 22 July 2020 14: 27 New
    -1
    Quote: AzeDefense2020
    i repeat 1 on 1 they can't do anything.

    Repeat more often so as not to forget what kind of warriors you saw everything, especially your war with apricots)
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 22 July 2020 19: 22 New
    0
    Quote: AzeDefense2020
    Usually, the Armenian side publishes such news for its public. I very often came across Armenian news, where they write, one soldier single-handedly shot down 6 tanks, he was all wounded, was bleeding, could not walk, one arm was broken ... ... blew himself up and destroyed 10 Azerbaijani special forces.

    I used to laugh at such news ......... but now we are used to it. This is how their whole history, valiant exploits, was built.


    It is an old habit of Armenians to tell lies at every opportunity. Whole generations have grown up with these Armenian fantasy:

    S. Lurie: “This is a legend about the history of the people, which was deliberately invented, has specific authors, famous or unknown, and which predetermines the attitude of the people to modernity, primarily to the political sphere. In these books, according to the French historian Marc Ferro , "A very naive, pure vision of history is presented; good and evil people, traitors and heroes act in it. Armenia, which has suffered defeats many times, willingly exalts its history, gives it a bright image of martyrdom. Dismembered, ruined, persecuted, above all with the side of the Turks, excluded from the number of states, creates history for itself on the verge of a golden legend. In it giants and heroes act who break bones of lions, break ribs of bulls. It is difficult to imagine that such a nation can suffer defeat, lose statehood. in a Benedictine textbook (we are talking about a textbook on Armenian published in Venice in 1979 by Armenian Benedictine monks oh stories for children) the misfortunes of the Armenians are depicted so skillfully and sincerely that in the end you cease to understand when Armenia actually was independent, and when foreigners ruled there ... The legend in this book is intertwined with reality, even when it comes to periods well developed by science. "
    1. Karenius
      Karenius 23 July 2020 11: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Scorpio05
      Quote: AzeDefense2020
      Usually, the Armenian side publishes such news for its public. I very often came across the Armenian news, where they write, one soldier single-handedly shot down 6 tanks,

      Quote: Scorpio05
      It's an old habit of Armenians to tell lies at every opportunity.

      Well, in the April war that a soldier knocked out 5 (it seems) units of your equipment, so he worked on the bassoons, so it was he who had to knock out your equipment ... By the way, his father, after his son's phone calls about knocking out another equipment, he doubted himself, and called his old friends to check the information ...
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 22 July 2020 20: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: genisis
    I wrote that the soldiers of the 3rd Army Corps of the Armed Forces of Armenia moved forward and improved their positions.

    I love the Armenian euphemisms: "improved their position" ... this is a replacement for one word "attack" or "attack". And then the people are thinking, wondering how these battles began on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. It turns out that "There it is, Mihalych", the "valiant" Armenian soldiers tried to improve their position))
  • Karenius
    Karenius 23 July 2020 10: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Jews and Turks will never, in any case, never fight. In the future, peace in the east will be based on the alliance of Jews and Turks, just as the Khazar Kaganate ruled in due time. Friendship of Azerbaijan and Israel should be viewed in this context

    Yes, Jeyhun, it is in this context that we consider your explosive mixture ... Here it is necessary to consider it from a centuries-old history ...
    Many centuries ago, one very smart Jew was expelled from Armenia ... He suggested that the Khazars (Kypchaks) accept Judaism ... The Russians opposed this, offering the Khazars a choice of a new religion for themselves - either Christianity or Islam ... But that smart man achieved religious "arrow", where he proved that the Khazars can convert to Judaism ...
    Many centuries have passed ... From England, where representatives of the original settlers from the Judo tribe had a considerable share in power, a resolution went around the world to promote the creation of Turan, for which it was most convenient to fan the Khevolutionary movement ... Young Turks, Young Armenians (realizing that the analogy was too striking, they renamed them to Dashnaks), where the statutes were carbon-copy ...
    When the Zhabotinsky went to the Ottomans with the slogan "all the Turks are brothers", the Ottomans did not want to recognize their brothers in the Kypchaks, thinking that they were simply crammed with brothers ... But the colossus of Khevolutions was gaining momentum ... who brought the Khazars / Kypchaks to power, with the participation of those very young Armenians ...
    The Anglo-Saxons agreed with judo that they would take the oil-bearing Arab territories from the Ottomans, in return they would allow Turan to be exalted ...
    ... WWII went ... The Fifth Column of Great Britain, together with the New York kagal, did everything to make the Allied operation in Gallipoli fail ...
    But it turned out to be a Khevolution in Ingushetia, and the backbone of the Russian ethnos was broken there ...
    To stop Bolshevism, France began to arm Kemal, even against the British ... Of the British then only Churchill understood that France was doing the right thing ...
    Of the more modern acts of the Khazars, we note the GKChP, this theatrical performance on the collapse of the USSR (in which only Stalin managed to move the Kagalovites from power) ...
    And after 1991, the power on Russian lands was completely controlled by the Khazars ... That is why the Turks could call the American embassy in Yerevan in 1992 and ask for consent to a war against Armenia, assuring that they would solve the problem with the Russians ... But the states were then led not Ashkenazi, and they simply warned the Turks that there would be problems with the United States ... (today the states, as I understand, will even help the Turks) ...
    And the Kagalovites still rule Russia ... Here I completely agree with the opinion of Alexei Mozgovoy that the Kremlin works only as an executor of their will ... This was shown more than once ... For a long time there was an article by Konstantin Zatulin on the entire newspaper page that the entire foreign policy of the Russian Federation is built by Primakov, and the main thing there is everything for Turkey !!!
    ______
    About your dreams about us in Sochi - this will not happen ... Soon the power in the Kremlin will be with the Russians, and you and your dreams will not be good ...