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Russia without hydrocarbons. Frightening virtuality or a bright future?

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No sooner had the Minister of Economy of Russia Alexander Novak, during a board meeting held in his own department, declare that this year, due to the coronavirus pandemic, domestic oil and gas production indicators will decrease, albeit slightly, as some have already grabbed their hearts, exclaiming : "But how can we live without hydrocarbons, birthmarks ?!" And really, how? Let's try for a second to imagine the possible options for the future of our country without the current level of fossil energy exports.


First of all, it will be necessary to disappoint the fans of apocalyptic forecasts and other “all-fledged” people who adore the topic of the inevitable death of Russia, which has lost its oil, on many forums and threads in social networks. No collapse, collapse of the economy, disintegration of the country and similar horrors will not follow, even if, at the behest of some enraged evil wizard, all the hydrocarbons in our native bowels evaporate at once. This is more than convincingly proved by the fact that the collapse expected by many Western economic experts and other analysts due to the unprecedented drop in oil prices that the world experienced this year did not happen. Even the crisis was not very serious.

However, the “disappearance” of domestic raw materials is no longer even an unscientific fantasy, but simply terrible tales. Equally, by the way, as a complete and instantaneous transition of almost the entire world to "green", renewable energy. Such questions, as the hero of the famous film said, cannot be solved right away. There will be enough oil and gas for a very long time (especially given the wealth of the Arctic region), and even countries that are the most ardent adherents of environmental cleanliness will not be able to at once refuse to use hydrocarbons in energy, industry, transport.

Nevertheless, Russia needs to think about a life in which the wealth pumped out of the depths of the earth will cease to be the cornerstone of the people's wealth and well-being, today - and very hard. Moreover, life itself prompts acceptable realistic solutions. Oil and gas will run out sooner or later. But the potential of our fertile land (if used correctly) will only increase. Already now Russia is turning into a "world granary" and the best proof of its enormous prospects in this direction is the extreme discontent shown on this occasion in the West.

The authors of the publication in the American magazine The National Interest predict that by the end of this decade, our country will own at least one fifth of the world grain market. Therefore, they scare their readers: "The Kremlin is undoubtedly using food exports as another weapon to advance its geopolitical interests." This suggests that in the United States we are taken more than seriously. Climate change is playing into Russia's hands: in the near future, tens of millions of hectares, including previously unused territories of Siberia, can be returned and introduced into agricultural circulation. Here is the simplest answer to the question: "What will happen without oil and gas?"

However, as they say, not by bread alone. Of course, the issue of diversifying its economy cannot be resolved by just switching from the export of hydrocarbons to the export of grain or other food from the country. Russia needs a rapid breakthrough in the most advanced industries, above all high technologies. Are there real prerequisites for such changes? Rather yes than no. First of all, squeezed in recent years in the steel grip of Western sanctions, our country was simply forced to develop its own production facilities for the purpose of import substitution, so as not to switch to carts and not switch to pigeon mail. Something turns out - not as easily and quickly as we would like, but here we can ...

The calls that are heard from time to time to immediately get off the oil needle and throw all their strength, for example, on the development of the IT industry, sound at least superficial and naive. The idea, in principle, is great. Here, just outside the parenthesis, the question remains: who exactly will buy the products of this domestic industry? In order to take a worthy position in the world markets in the field of one or another non-resource segment, it is first necessary to develop the corresponding industry, and this requires both time and huge investments.

The question is not that Russia needs to abandon oil and gas revenues that hinder its innovative and industrial development, as some gentlemen argue, but that these revenues should be invested in those sectors of the economy that will have to become its engines then, when hydrocarbons really run out or recede into the background. Is there an understanding of this moment in our government? Perhaps, as such, one can perceive Vladimir Putin's proposal to create a maximum-favored-nation regime for the domestic IT sector - both through a fantastic reduction in the tax burden and through direct government subsidies.

Russia still has time before the era of life without oil and gas. The main thing is that both the coming years and the funds that are still pouring into the domestic economy from raw material exports should be spent wisely and as effectively as possible.
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  1. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 22 July 2020 18: 07
    23
    Oleksandr Kharaluzhny, excuse me, an article about everything and nothing .. it looks like to throw at a fan .. if the oil runs out, everything will be fine, if we do everything right, and if we don't do it, it will be bad ..
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 22 July 2020 18: 22
      16
      Under the current leadership of the Russian Federation, it cannot exist without the export of hydrocarbons and other raw materials!
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 22 July 2020 19: 24
        24
        Absolutely right. I've just been comparing fuel prices over the past decade. In 2010, I poured 1 liters into the tank for 48 wooden ones. In 2016, 70 liters of AI-95 cost 2, and today it is almost 300. At the same time, the price of oil by those years had collapsed almost 3 times, and the salary of ordinary workers remained the same at best. How many organized crime groups are still hoping to ride on these "skis" ("Gazprom", "Otsosneft" and others) on asphalt? It's time for them to bury their faces in it.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 23 July 2020 10: 06
          -2
          Oil and gas will run out sooner or later.

          Carbon and hydrogen will mysteriously turn into ...
          author -> author -> author -> author tell me, be kind.

          What will happen to these chemical elements on planet Earth?
          How will they disappear?

          Will it burn? wassat

          And as a result of this miracle of fire, hydrogen and carbon will turn into oxygen? laughing

          Where do the poor hydrogen and carbon go?

          Why are you so up in arms against them and want to remove them from our planet?

          And, pzhalsta, how will this happen ?????????

          AUTHOR, if water runs out in YOUR faucet in the kitchen, do you really think that water is disappearing all over the planet? Does the solar wind blow?
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 23 July 2020 10: 24
            -1
            if YOUR faucet in the kitchen runs out of water, do you really think that water disappears all over the planet? Does the solar wind blow?

            And if there is gold on the planet, it means that everyone is pouring it from the tap ..
            L - logic ..))
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 23 July 2020 10: 38
              -2
              Quote: Roman123567
              And if there is gold on the planet

              And you, sir, now the gold is flowing from the tap and you are afraid that it will run out just now.
              Urgently to the doctor. He will fix your tap.

              At your leisure, ask how much hydrogen is on our planet. How much is outside our planet.
              How much carbon.
              Slightly more than gold.

              And answer the question - where to go from our planet. You want to get rid of them for some reason. request
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 23 July 2020 10: 55
                -4
                People never lived without oil and gas. And there were oil and gas.

                Water is hydrogen and oxygen. An inexhaustible source of energy.
                Just how to separate atoms.
                Law of energy conservation.
                Yes, a bunch of everything.

                At this stage of development it is FAVORABLE to burn hydrocarbons.

                Nuclear power is not available for private use. You can't make tea in the kitchen with a portable nuclear reactor. Until you brew.

                And what will happen next, God willing, we will see.

                And hydrocarbons will remain hydrocarbons. For it is not in our power to get rid of these elements.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 22 July 2020 18: 31
      +7
      President of the Russian Federation V. Putin
      Moscow Kremlin
      13 May 2019 years
      № 216

      APPROVED
      Presidential decree
      Russian Federation
      13 dated May 2019 Nr. 216

      DOCTRINE
      energy security of the Russian Federation.
      ----
      II. Challenges and threats to energy security, risks in the field of energy security.
      -----
      8. Foreign economic challenges to energy security are:
      f) an increase in the share of renewable energy sources in the global fuel and energy balance.


      9. The foreign policy challenge to energy security is the intensification of international efforts to implement climate policy and accelerate the transition to a "green economy".
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 22 July 2020 18: 41
        +9
        ".... American financiers seem to have seriously paid attention to alternative sources of energy. By investing in green projects and paying for science-based advertising, they may well expect that numerous Pinocchio will perfectly fertilize the financial field of miracles with their gold."

        from here https://cosmicstarcat.livejournal.com/5238.html
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 22 July 2020 18: 41
      +9
      Oil, gas, timber is the curse of Russia.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 July 2020 18: 51
        12
        Quote: Clever man
        Oil, gas, timber is the curse of Russia.

        The people of Russia, and for thousands of families, this is great happiness.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 22 July 2020 19: 31
          15
          From the People of Russia these "curses" one "Vavka" whispered and prayed, along the way. laughing

          and for a thousand families this is great happiness

          They took the blow, not otherwise.lol As far as I understand, they are awarded for this.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 July 2020 19: 37
            11
            Quote: lexus
            They took the blow, not otherwise. As far as I understand, they are awarded for this.

            These are very selfless and persistent, they
            until the last ruble is stolen, they will not calm down. Here we can say “pumped” with full responsibility.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 22 July 2020 19: 49
              16
              These are very selfless and persistent, they
              until the last ruble is stolen, they will not calm down.

              What are you, colleague. Money is evil! “Teachers” in cassocks are saying this to ordinary children already at school. And evil must be fought with a narrow circle of "knights of light". Ordinary mortals cannot do this task. It is necessary to deliver and protect them from it, "evil", and then bury it, then wash it, burn it and let it go to the wind. wassat
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 22 July 2020 19: 53
                11
                Quote: lexus
                What are you, colleague. Money is evil!

                So the scribe says that he doesn't know how much he gets, they bring them and he puts them in the bedside table, so little change for ice cream for his friend Erdogash. One word, altruist, damn it.
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 July 2020 20: 14
                  20
                  he puts them in the nightstand

                  Judging by the immense, already unclosed "bedside tables" of him and his friends, it is necessary to "row" in the sweat of the "upper shelf".

                  One word, altruist, damn it.

                  Everything about Russia thinks. About "simple" cooks, cellists, academicians, judokas ...
                  1. SARANCHA1976
                    SARANCHA1976 22 July 2020 21: 31
                    +5
                    Yeah .. about the Swiss accounts of Russian teachers
      2. Aag
        Aag 22 July 2020 20: 36
        +5
        Quote: Clever man
        Oil, gas, timber is the curse of Russia.

        It is possible to assess the situation as such, for it is an object of encroachments.
        If, however, the interests of citizens (the overwhelming majority) coincide)) with the interests of persons representing the foreign policy of the Russian Federation, then this is a powerful advantage, a bonus, a head start for further, NON-RAW, development of the economy. With all that it implies. Again, we will achieve unity of interests, - not that we will stand, - once again we will show an example! We will not be able, - once again, - tighten your belts. And this will not be the worst option possible.,.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 22 July 2020 21: 25
        +1
        Quote: Clever man
        Oil, gas, timber is the curse of Russia.

        Fig, behold the statement! About such a curse, some countries, such as Turkey, Spain, France, Germany, etc. they cannot even dream. By the way, you also forgot to mention one "curse", namely, the fresh water reserves in Russia. Wars of the next century will take place precisely because of water, or rather because of its shortage.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 July 2020 00: 13
          -2
          Well, Rosatom already has projects for the extraction of water from underground sources using nuclear energy just for countries with an arid climate.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 23 July 2020 10: 38
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            Ну Rosatom already has projects to extract water from underground sources using nuclear power just for countries with arid climates.
            Didn't hear. Be that as it may, but the problem of lack of water, with every decade, is becoming more and more urgent.
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 23 July 2020 10: 28
          -2
          Germany, etc. can't even dream

          It would be interesting to know where they dream more .. here about life like in Germany, or in Germany, about our life ..))
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 23 July 2020 10: 35
            0
            Quote: Roman123567
            Germany, etc. can't even dream

            It would be interesting to know where they dream more .. here about life like in Germany, or in Germany, about our life ..))

            The Germans go to Russia, the Russians go to Germany - both in the hope of a better life, the criteria of which everyone determines for himself. A slightly different topic is discussed here, which does not concern a household device, namely the availability of energy resources by the state. The Germans gave up coal and abandoned the atom. They understand that "green energy" will not be able to feed their industry, and therefore they need gas, which they do not have. I think that they would not mind at all if they had a "curse" in the form of a gas field similar to the Urengoy one, but alas ...
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 22 July 2020 19: 10
      17
      Yes, in general, there is some kind of hackiness with unreasonable optimism .. but not a single number ..
      No collapse, collapse of the economy, disintegration of the country and other similar horrors will not follow, even if, at the behest of some enraged evil wizard, all the hydrocarbons in our native bowels evaporate at once. This is more than convincingly proved by the fact that the collapse expected by many Western economic experts and other analysts due to the unprecedented drop in oil prices that the world experienced this year did not happen. Even the crisis was not very serious.

      Masterpiece .. Here is the analytics ... In the fall .. in the fall you will begin to see the whole seriousness ..
      The question is not that Russia needs to abandon oil and gas revenues that hinder its innovative and industrial development, as some gentlemen argue, but that these revenues should be invested in those sectors of the economy that will have to become its engines then, when hydrocarbons really run out or recede into the background. Is there an understanding of this moment in our government

      Understanding, even if there is, it’s about nothing .. There should be no understanding, but a plan of action .. and then the question is, has anyone heard how the government is going to develop Russia ... well, yes .. we have moved the development period until 2030 .. are there any decrees in May .. where are they .. In short, these people have been chewing snot for 20 years and will do it until their death ..
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 04
        12
        Yes, in general, some kind of a hat with unreasonable optimism
        ... "This is our tradition and we keep it" (c) smile
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 22 July 2020 20: 35
          10
          Quote: parusnik
          Yes, in general, some kind of a hat with unreasonable optimism
          ... "This is our tradition and we keep it" (c) smile

          In my opinion, this is political technology and total propaganda .. I think that the shady moods began to end in 2016 like this .. and after the pension reform, people began to see their light ... well, and after resetting to zero, Khabarovsk showed a true attitude towards the current government ..
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 23 July 2020 00: 18
        -2
        In the structure of Russia's GDP, the oil and gas sector occupies 19%, the rest is the service sector and industrial production of agricultural enterprises, etc. In the future, the oil and gas industry will be greatly promoted by the IT sector in Russia, it is developing well - the world market is trillions of dollars in turnover.
    5. Far B
      Far B 23 July 2020 02: 25
      +5
      And for Kharaluzhny (and for Polonsky, by the way) such a superficial style is generally characteristic. In this article, the author generally raises the question illiterately. Do we have oil, do we have oil ... Soon it will run out or not soon ... In fact, this aspect can generally be allowed to go sideways. The main thing is how much this oil costs on the world market. In just one half of this year, due to the fall in exchange prices for oil and gas, the budget deficit has grown by several trillions. This does not include the losses from the idiotic underquarantine.
  2. demo
    demo 22 July 2020 18: 10
    -6
    This is more than convincingly proved by the fact that the collapse expected by many Western economic experts and other analysts due to the unprecedented drop in oil prices that the world experienced this year did not happen. Even the crisis was not very serious.

    In an interview with Gazeta.Ru, analysts expressed the opinion that by doing so, China took the opportunity to buy oil at bargain prices.
    “For rational oil importers - and China certainly is - it would be just shortsighted not to increase oil reserves while prices are at such a low level,” said Natalya Milchakova, deputy head of the Alpari IAC.
    There is no reason to expect China to stop importing large volumes of oil after that.

    The crisis was initiated by the Countries of the Golden Billion.
    It was necessary to slightly adjust the economy. Remove those who interfere. Redistribute property. Try to shove Trump off. Create grounds for racial protests. Try to instill in the mass consciousness the need for vaccination.
    But China did not participate in this global show.
    They tried to make him a scapegoat.
    But everything turned out very clumsy and clumsy.
    This is called a false start.
    Starting all over again is stupid.
  3. mark2
    mark2 22 July 2020 18: 15
    -5
    A definite plus to the article.
    I share most of the theses.
    Well, at least someone said publicly that in order to start producing something, it is necessary to simultaneously invest in a bunch of related things, from preparing a sales market to preparing those very manufacturers.
    And then you constantly hear screams about domestic computers and cell phones. They are, but there are not many Aboriginal people who want to buy them. More and more they are specialized in Chinese consumer goods.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 22 July 2020 18: 19
    -1
    No disaster will happen. We will live differently, worse / better, everything depends on us, in the end.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 July 2020 18: 27
      -1
      Yes, there will be no problems, just everyone lives according to the principle that it is easier, now there are hydrocarbons, so they don't bother, is that bad? , of course, bad, but when it will not, we will not guess, I know one thing, we have enough land, we will feed the whole world.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2020 18: 53
        +4
        Resources don't run out of tomorrow! But living only at the expense of selling them is not very permanent, perhaps soon it will become a by-product / auxiliary product of trade.
        Technologies do not stand still, and although the green trend is more like a political project, development in this direction will proceed in a planned way.
        It is not reasonable to lag behind, i.e. do everything according to your mind.
        It is most important.
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 July 2020 20: 40
          +1
          I'm talking about something else, we will always find what to produce and in excess, which is enough for us for a normal life.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 July 2020 20: 50
            +2
            The surplus is now only for supplies wherever.
            We do for ourselves as much as necessary ... well, in reserve, a bit.
            In general, we, even for ourselves, do and do.
            And so, we have something to offer our neighbors.
            Life, it does not stand still. Things deteriorate, but you always want to eat !!!
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 July 2020 20: 52
              +1
              ... Things deteriorate, but you always want to eat !!!


              Oh, too, as our neighbors say, so we'll break through anyway ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 July 2020 20: 58
                +1
                It is not for nothing that the striped ones quack in advance that Russia is really ready to create a new miracle dangerous for them. Become the granary of the world! 20% of world grain production is, I can tell you, MIRACLE!
                Because exactly how EVERYONE wants to eat and ALWAYS.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 23 July 2020 08: 54
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Become the granary of the world! 20% of world grain production is, I can tell you, MIRACLE!
                  Because exactly how EVERYONE wants to eat and ALWAYS.


                  And how many lands have not yet been developed? ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 23 July 2020 09: 41
                    0
                    Good morning soldier
                    Any big business is a whole complex of tasks that must be solved all together.
                    Infrastructure for transportation, processing, storage and of course the subsequent sale of products.
                    There is a lot of land, but a full load of worries.
                    We will do it, clearly, strictly according to the development plan! We ourselves will be full and many, many, we will be able to feed. At the same time we will earn some money, not very small, besides!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 23 July 2020 11: 06
                      +1
                      Greetings! hi
                      Yes, there is a whole complex and how many additional jobs, the development of almost all industries, so there is something to do.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 23 July 2020 11: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: cniza
                        so there is something to do

                        And this is very good!
                        A man with no business, no perspective .... going crazy.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 23 July 2020 11: 16
                        +2
                        And behind it, the state ceases to exist ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 23 July 2020 12: 03
                        +1
                        States, empires, maybe entire civilizations !!!
                        Boom was engaged in useful, necessary business, and all of us will care about it!
  • Kisa
    Kisa 22 July 2020 21: 44
    +2
    With an oil price of $ 10 per barrel, the middle class in Russia will be a man in shoes.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 July 2020 23: 31
      +1
      An old song about the main thing ... as some people think.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 July 2020 00: 23
      -1
      Do not worry, you will not - recently there was an article about the supposedly impending crisis in oil production, they say, they do not invest money in exploration, I think that this is a trial litmus test for creating an artificial shortage of oil in the future, since current prices are clearly not profitable for onnoy producers.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 July 2020 12: 06
        -1
        Any business that can bring real income is overgrown with all sorts of ... cunning moves, or something. You have to be very in the subject to evaluate everything correctly.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 22 July 2020 18: 21
    +3
    How little we know about the structure and mechanisms inside our planet Earth. BUT scientists are working and a lot of just interesting things ..
    "Oil and natural gas are renewable natural resources ..... The development of an oil field in the Tersko-Sunzhensky region in Chechnya began in 1895, and by the beginning of World War II, due to heavy flooding of wells, most of them were mothballed. A few years later reactivated wells began to produce waterless oil.By the early 90s of the last century, the wells were again flooded and were not operated for more than 10 years.When production resumed, production rates increased significantly, and some of the wells again began to produce waterless oil.

    Similar cases of the arrival of "new" oil have been recorded at a number of fields around the world. Where does the “new” oil come from in old, often depleted fields? "
    https://www.ng.ru/energy/2016-02-09/14_oil.html
    https://www.mk.ru/blogs/posts/neft-i-gaz-ne-issyaknut-nikogda.html
    Currently, many countries are fighting to have such an oil and gas bondage.

    Who cares - a fresh article about the structure of the Earth. "Found the patterns of distribution of gold on Earth."

    for example she's here
    Details: https://regnum.ru/news/innovatio/3016336.html



    And in the subject ..
    "Hydrogen energy:" the great hydrogen power "is Russia in the future"

    http://ru-an.info/ тут справа найдете по заголовку
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 July 2020 18: 28
      +2
      How little we know about the structure and mechanisms inside our planet Earth.


      I will say more what oil is, we do not know to the end ...
      1. Vestnik
        Vestnik 22 July 2020 18: 34
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        How little we know about the structure and mechanisms inside our planet Earth.


        I will say more what oil is, we do not know to the end ...

        I also read about it, some versions .. With coal, everything is clear, but oil, gas from the depths of the earth .. So far a mystery!
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2020 18: 23
    +1
    The Minister of Economy of Russia Alexander Novak did not have time


    Who is Novak? Not a serious approach to material presentation ...
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  • Million
    Million 22 July 2020 18: 47
    15
    We will live without hydrocarbons, but without Putin, no!
    The Kremlin says: people are new oil!
    Fines, taxes, levies are the basis of the current economy. Notice how their volition has increased!
    1. mag nit
      mag nit 22 July 2020 19: 48
      11
      These are Putin's economic breakthroughs.
  • Courier
    Courier 22 July 2020 18: 51
    +7
    Each thesis of the author is refuted. Sorry, but it is.

    A future with virtually no oil and gas revenues will come in the next 20 years.
  • smaug78
    smaug78 22 July 2020 19: 51
    +3
    The author is immediately clear, for the opinion is at the level of a drunk in the kitchen ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 22 July 2020 23: 46
      +2
      Colleague...
      What a trend this is! Recently, it has been considered good form to scold and even offend the Author. Did he not finish something? So you finish it! Then an article is written to give you the opportunity to fully reveal your intellectual power and erudition. Do not comment on the Author - an article! And not even an article, but the topic touched upon ...
      Here are titanic articles on Vzglyad. I read the beginning and the end. If I try to read it all, I get brain sickness. People simply have no time to read author's sheets, short articles are a trend of the time. People read on the subway, electric trains, buses, at home in between household chores and communication with loved ones. In such cases, you start reading, you get distracted - you forgot what you read, so you have to have time to read the entire text in a short time. This means that the article should be short. Short articles - an encouragement not only to brain activity, but also to the need to go to the Internet at their own request related to the article - this is now the way to go.
      Right now I'm typing the query "Russia's plans for the production of hydrogen", Google gives a first-hand answer:

      The roadmap for hydrogen production in Russia involves the following stages.

      At the end of the year, officials will develop a concept for the development of hydrogen energy, as well as support measures for pilot projects for the production of hydrogen.
      In early 2021, incentives should appear for exporters and buyers of hydrogen in the domestic market. The government is not yet discussing specific support measures for hydrogen, two meeting participants said.
      The first producers of hydrogen will be Gazprom and Rosatom, it follows from the roadmap. The companies will launch pilot hydrogen plants in 2024 - at nuclear power plants, gas production facilities and raw material processing plants.
      In 2021, Gazprom is to develop and test a gas turbine running on methane-hydrogen fuel.
      Until 2024, Gazprom will study the use of hydrogen and methane-hydrogen fuel in gas installations (gas turbine engines, gas boilers, etc.) and as a motor fuel in various types of transport.
      In 2024, Rosatom will build a test site for railway transport using hydrogen. We are talking about the transfer of trains to hydrogen fuel cells on Sakhalin, which was announced in 2019 by Russian Railways, Rosatom and Transmashholding, says one of the participants in the discussion.
      The "road map" will be finalized taking into account the views of the ministries, which have sent many comments, says a RBC source close to one of the departments. For example, the Ministry of Transport asked the Ministry of Energy to change the implementation dates and executors for some activities, says a ministry spokesman, without specifying details. The Ministry of Industry and Trade sent comments in June and July, but they were not included in the document, a representative of the department told RBC. The Ministry of Economic Development as a whole supports the "roadmap", but proposed to include an item on the development of the treatment of carbon dioxide (CO2), which is formed as a result of the production of hydrogen (when released from methane. - RBK), said the representative of the Ministry of Economic Development ...

      Earlier I read somewhere that adding 10% hydrogen to natural gas significantly increases the energy yield of the mixture in comparison with pure gas of the same volume. And RosBusinessConsulting (RBC) through Yandex told me right now that
      "... according to the energy strategy, by 2035 Russia is going to export about 2 million tons of hydrogen."
      And I remembered what I had read earlier that it is planned to produce 2050 million tons of hydrogen in Russia by 100.
      And further the world demand for hydrogen will only grow.
      And all this is on the topic of the article.
      1. depressant
        depressant 23 July 2020 00: 05
        +2
        Since it was no longer possible to add to my commentary, I am writing in pursuit: I am not sure that the bulk I have shown in the quotes of the plans is not a way of washing, rolling back, sawing, and also transferring the stolen from the state budget abroad.
      2. smaug78
        smaug78 23 July 2020 05: 50
        +4
        And no one scolds the author, they just tell him that he writes hurray-nonsense. Income from the oil industry to the budget in 2019 - 43%. So it is necessary to describe in detail with numbers how we will replace. Instead of posting victorious press releases
  • parusnik
    parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 01
    +6
    Russia needs a rapid breakthrough in the most advanced industries, above all high technologies.
    ..Another article about another breakthrough, but in another area, which is needed ... Everyone understands, yes it is necessary ... You write how .. They have been writing about breakthroughs since the end of the 80s. By the way, the problem: AvtoVAZ, in fact became a Citroen-Nissan, but still produces a Zhiguli, not a Citroen-Nissan, but a Zhiguli ... everything is done for a breakthrough, but one hell of a Zhiguli is coming off the assembly line, maybe it's not a matter of specialists, and the place is not happy? other industries? smile
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 July 2020 20: 15
      +1
      Lada became normal. Already a car. Not worse than Solaris and Rio. Not bad for a budget car.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 22 July 2020 20: 38
        +1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Lada became normal. Already a car. Not worse than Solaris and Rio. Not bad for a budget car.

        I agree with you here in the part that Vesta is a good car .. the consumption is certainly annoying, 2 liters more than that of Solaris and Rio ... but I do not agree that the budget .. the average grade is almost 1 ml .. wooden .. Now, if it cost 400-500 tons .. there would be a really people's car ..
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 July 2020 23: 56
          +2
          West's friend SW Cross, dashed off 120 thousand. I only changed consumables. My Japanese cannot boast of this, although he is from a more expensive price category.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 July 2020 08: 46
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          .the consumption is certainly annoying

          It depends on how you drive! wink In general, the 129 engine is quite successful, now it has been finalized, now it is not plug-in, you can not follow the timing so closely.
          In general, it is difficult to call the West our car, more than 50% of spare parts are imported.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 23 July 2020 09: 26
            +1
            And the famous Mercedes is not equipped exclusively with German parts. Russian body steel, china ...
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 41
        +3
        I'm glad for Citroen-Nissan, it turns out we can't do it ourselves, we need to call foreigners ... for a breakthrough .. smile
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 22 July 2020 21: 37
          +4
          Quote: parusnik
          I'm glad for Citroen-Nissan, it turns out we can't do it ourselves, we need to call foreigners ... for a breakthrough .. smile

          Therefore, it costs under a million .. people are told that nothing depends on the dollar exchange rate, but the reality is different .. Citroen-Nissan want to get money in euros ..
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 July 2020 23: 57
          +5
          Renault-Nissan, not Citroen.
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 July 2020 08: 47
          +3
          Quote: parusnik
          Citroen-Nissan

          Renault Nissan. wink but essentially you are right
  • mehan
    mehan 22 July 2020 20: 47
    +3
    The author's conclusion is simple: from an energy superpower, the Russian Federation will turn into an agricultural superpower.
    And yes, he does not know that Russia has already been marked by many leading states as a leader in the IT sector. True, so far only in hacking.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 July 2020 23: 58
      +2
      There is nothing wrong with an agrarian superpower. Humanity will live without hydrocarbons, with a creak, but will live. But without food - no.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 23 July 2020 00: 27
        +1
        Humanity will not live without hydrocarbons - since without plastics, rubbers and many other polymers of oils, hydro-fluids and chemistry, life will stop like all production throughout the world.
    2. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 26 July 2020 18: 10
      +1
      Driving durum wheat abroad and feeding the population with bread made from coarse grains is an agricultural superpower. With the extinction of the Russians from year to year. Such a "superpower" is applauded by the frogs. In addition, overproduction of grain quickly depletes the fertile layer. Khaz is the property of khazmyasprom, forests are less and less, in whose pocket then endless fields? Continuous hacking without a crowbar ....)
  • bairat
    bairat 22 July 2020 21: 06
    +3
    If we run out of oil for gas generators, we will move on, there are many forests in Russia. Rosneft will only need to be renamed into Rosles. And no one on onerous terms will pull oil pipelines to us, there are no more such fools in the world.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 July 2020 00: 33
      -1
      By this time, we will be selling thermonuclear reactors and their service.
      In Sarov in 2022 just such an experimental one will be launched
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 26 July 2020 18: 33
        0
        All ahead! Let's transform the Earth into the Plyuk planet from the Kin-Dza-Dza galaxy! A small question - what will you do with the heat generated from the use of powerful thermonuclear power plants in the future? Overheating of the planet.

        With the existing social order, a large amount of cheap energy will lead to an even greater degradation of nature and the stratification of society into "celestials" and cattle.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 22 July 2020 21: 49
    0
    The devil only knows ...
    We need to think about ... Oil / gas ... Why agitate me? I'm already agitated request
    Yes, I generally work in shipbuilding. I think about this every God day. Why the hell do I even think about oil and gas ?!
    Here, shovel your hemorrhoids with a shovel! ..
  • alone
    alone 22 July 2020 22: 43
    0
    Russia's wealth is neither oil nor gas. Putin ..
    PS This was said by Volodin, not Ya. So there are complaints against him if something is wrong.
    P.S. S. For the sake of decency, Volodin could have added the people of Russia as well. hi
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 22 July 2020 22: 53
    +1
    Russia still has time before the era of life without oil and gas.
    But as usual it will come suddenly.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 23: 25
    +1
    Huh ... and where is the author of the article saw the ears of corn ?! wassat I often travel around Russia - I have not seen ears of corn ((((Yes, you don't have to travel far - it's stupid to drive along any road to Belarus - weeds grow in the fields in Russia, after 10 km - a field is ears) - but this is already Belarus)))

    in IT ... here I am in the IT field ... for the last 15 years - in a successful company, until our company went bankrupt due to under-quarantine ... we didn't even need any help - we would just be allowed to work ... and we would still work and work ...

    run out of oil - chaos will begin in Russia for anyone))) where has it been seen that a few tens of miles of state employees would "work" for free? )))
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 23 July 2020 00: 00
      +2
      And you will ride a little further south. Find at least one empty piece of land in the Kuban. And the Non-Black Earth Region is a zone of risky farming.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 July 2020 00: 31
    +3
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And you will ride a little further south. Find at least one empty piece of land in the Kuban. And the Non-Black Earth Region is a zone of risky farming.

    And you will ride a little to the west - "Find at least one empty piece of land" (c) AS Ivanov. - in Belarus bully
    Why is such a fright in Russia continuous crop failures every year - and literally 100 km to the west the land will give birth and give birth, that even the Chernozem region is not needed ?! wassat
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 July 2020 05: 24
      0
      Where did you get the idea that crop failures? The harvests have been very good over the past few years. By the way, the Belgorod Region and Krasnodar Territory, by the way, look much more advantageous in terms of agriculture than Belarus.
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 July 2020 00: 47
    +4
    Russia is already turning into a "world granary"
    True, the potatoes in the "world granary" are for some reason Pakistani, then Egyptian ... And such a question, if oil and gas run out, how will you move agricultural machinery in the fields of the "world granary", if of all the "technologies" sold by Russia for border, developed only hydrocarbon trade, well, now plus the sale of grain.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 July 2020 05: 26
      0
      Well, the Egyptians eat bread made from our grain. Division of labor. Why get hung up on this potato? Its share in the diet of Russians has decreased, and quite significantly.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 July 2020 13: 04
        +2
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Why get hung up on this potato? Its share in the diet of Russians has decreased, and quite significantly.

        Of course, it has decreased, not every Russian, let alone a Russian pensioner, can afford to eat potatoes every day. Makaroshki is our everything.
    2. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 09: 06
      0
      what nonsense about potatoes !!!! there are all kinds of potatoes, buy Russian and Belarusian potatoes
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 July 2020 13: 14
        +1
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        what nonsense about potatoes !!!! there are all kinds of potatoes, buy Russian and Belarusian potatoes

        What nonsense about Russian, and even more so, Belarusian potatoes on the shelves of shops in the Far East. It's not a season for the Russian, I have never seen the Belarusian one here. lol
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 13: 27
          -1
          cheaper means from egypt than from voronezh
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 23 July 2020 13: 48
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            cheaper means from egypt than from voronezh

            Sure. And faster. We look. From Egypt, if from the ports of the Red Sea, then past the Arabian Peninsula, they dropped into Pakistan, and across the Indian Ocean went to the Pacific, and here it is Vladivostok, they were taken to trucks and to the cities of the Far East. And from Voronezh? See for yourself, you have to get from Voronezh to Egypt. Of course, it's easier from Egypt straight away. laughing laughing laughing
            PS Today we have brought the Azerbaijani one.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 14: 10
              0
              tomatoes, too, probably not from the Krasnodar Territory?)))))
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 23 July 2020 14: 50
                0
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                tomatoes, too, probably not from the Krasnodar Territory?)))))

                SURE. Thank God that even about 3 years ago, Krasnodar apples appeared, a little cheaper than New Zealand ones.
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 15: 18
                  0
                  horror)))) how do you live there .....
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 23 July 2020 17: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    horror)))) how do you live there .....

                    Fine. We choose the Governor, he is imprisoned, and after all, it is still only the 20th, not the 37th. They send in return some Pokemon, which says that we need to build more saunas in the Khabarovsk Territory, but where can we recruit whores for these saunas? Only it was sent from Moscow, and in Moscow the prices are higher. Khabarovsk was not near laughing ... By the way, apricots grow in our southern regions. In the central ones in autumn we collect grapes on the hills, by the way, the wine from this wild grape is very awesome, and in the northern regions of the region, summer is practically over. As well as the Furgala program on preferential air travel for residents of the northern regions of the region. drinks
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 24 July 2020 07: 50
                      0
                      again you are talking about the governor)))) maybe you should already forget this story
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 July 2020 00: 58
    -2
    Quote: abriv
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Why is such a fright in Russia continuous crop failures every year - and literally 100 km to the west the land will give birth and give birth, that even the Chernozem region is not needed ?!

    Belarus is the most favorable territory for farming. There are few such lands in the Russian Federation. The border of such a natural zone runs obliquely, from the north-west to the south-east from Belarus through Voronezh and Saratov to Kazakhstan. South of this conditional line, but not all, very little. About a dozen regions of the Russian Federation.

    "Yes, sho you say that?" laughing Why is Ukraine so frightened - the recognized "granary of the USSR" is now importing agricultural products ?! hi
    Maybe it's not about the "arrangement of beds in a brothel" repeat
    Maybe ... I will say a constructive thought ... to change the staff of the brothel? ... bully
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 July 2020 05: 30
      +1
      Ukraine, like Russia, exports some types of agricultural products and imports others. And, given the enormous size of the territory of the Russian Federation, we have one and the same type of agricultural products that are both imported and exported. In the Far East, it is more profitable to buy some types of agricultural products exported by Russia from foreign producers.
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 23 July 2020 13: 08
      +1
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Maybe ... I will say a constructive thought ... to change the staff of the brothel? ...

      If only leadership, then a normal thought ... drinks
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 23 July 2020 07: 07
    +1
    ... The main thing is that they should be spent wisely and as efficiently as the coming years

    We have a problem with this. repeat
    Technically, everything is solvable, they will build the required number of nuclear power plants, everyone will switch to electric cars, but then ... What kind of hillock are we going to sell except for bread? And you won't go far on bread, one year's harvest, three years not ...
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 09: 08
      0
      we are the leaders in the atom))) now we are actively buying up nuclear waste in order to use it again, even the Americans have forgotten how to enrich uranium
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 23 July 2020 11: 43
      0
      Here's just a question, is it necessary for lamas to sell something from raw materials abroad in a self-sufficient country with the production necessary for the population? Well, spices and bananas will have to be of course, but the rest is questionable.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 July 2020 17: 48
      -2
      Non-resource exports last year, together with weapons, amounted to $ 210 billion - so the question "What will we export if oil and gas somehow miraculously run out" - is no longer there.
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 23 July 2020 17: 56
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        already disappears

        I doubt very much
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 23 July 2020 09: 30
    +2
    Well, let's not apocalypse, really. If this works out)
    What is our economy built on now? It works as follows. Resources are dug and pumped from the ground. Thanks to modern high-performance equipment purchased abroad, labor productivity in resource industries is simply insane - one BelAZ driver transports thousands of tons of cargo a year, one compressor operator at Gazprom pumps hundreds of millions of cubic meters of gas, etc.
    In connection with all this, those people who appropriate to themselves all the profits, which are absolutely monstrous, practically do not need any population of "this country". We are "unnecessary parasites", okay? They also absolutely do not need qualified personnel - it is not too difficult to teach a person to drive a BelAZ. And you can call factory specialists from abroad to repair it. And so in all industries.
    Of course, "this country" is still needed - to be ready to die for the right of the top to appropriate profits. That is why our servants of the elite, concentrated in Moscow and St. Petersburg, pay off a little unearned in the form of salaries, and the rest of the country survives as it wants at 10-30 thousand a month. Little men are not dying? That's okay! Let us revive the "propaganda of patriotism" and let them pound near death by starvation in readiness to "endure the hardships of military service."
    And now the resources are hooked. What will happen? Well, first you have to go through a fight over the leftovers. Uniform war of the oligarchs. Then, all those who raised billions here will scatter together, pulling money out of the country to a dime. Even the dust in the safe deposit boxes will be swept up. Because the reorientation of the economy will require funds, and they have not robbed for decades in order to give everything.
    And so, at the exit, a completely impoverished country that does not have a penny. Modern agriculture also needs trillions, machinery costs monstrously, and the turnover of capital in agriculture is extremely low. Who owns our land? Those who plunder the bowels, they own everything. And they fled, snatching all the funds from all their businesses! Agricultural will be inevitable and obligatory collapse as soon as the equipment fails, and this will happen in a matter of weeks.
    Well, then ... Oh. Choyta I have the same apocalypse and it comes out, no matter how I try. And I don't even attract the revolution! And there won't be that revolution, there is nothing to do it on. Stalin carried out an explosive industrialization using the wealth accumulated by the previous system. And on this day there will be no trace of wealth! Shish, not a revolution. And the nonsense offered by the author of the article ... Well, it's not even funny. Yearning...
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 23 July 2020 10: 31
    -1
    First of all, it will be necessary to disappoint fans of apocalyptic forecasts and other “all-fledged” people who adore the topic of the inevitable death of Russia, which has lost its oil, on many forums and threads in social networks. No collapse, collapse of the economy, the collapse of the country and similar horrors will follow, even if at the behest of some maddened evil wizard all hydrocarbons in our native bowels will evaporate at once.


    There will be no collapse .. of course ..
    Just at the beck of an enraged wizard, we find ourselves in 93 .. But this was not a crash ..))
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 23 July 2020 11: 37
    +1
    The export of grain is due to the fact that the population is baked from feed grain for livestock, and good for sale. What did they say about the fact that the sanctions are in our favor? That money for Syria and so on must be earned, so they earn by ripping off the population and taking out everything and everyone.
  • AAK
    AAK 23 July 2020 11: 40
    0
    Once upon a time, in the 60-70s of the last century, theoretical and experimental high-energy physics (controlled thermonuclear fusion) was successfully developed in the USSR, all sorts of "TOKAMAK" were built, in the program "Time" and in "Obvious-incredible" they constantly said about how many nanoseconds the holding time of the plasma bunch in the magnetic field has increased and how many years the first generator will start working, the first step towards ensuring an inexhaustible energy flow from ordinary water, but then in the 80s everything somehow calmed down, about Dubna, Obninsk, etc. .d - already not gu-gu ... The oil and gas lobby won, the money went to gas and oil pipelines. And now they don't talk about it anywhere and write nothing ...
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 23 July 2020 12: 36
    0
    Quote: evgen1221
    Here's just the question, is it necessary for lamas to sell something from raw materials abroad in a self-sufficient country with production

    We do not have enough production and, most importantly, technologies to offer something worthwhile in large quantities for the same money as hydrocarbons.
    Something like this...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 July 2020 17: 50
      -2
      There is the IT sphere in Russia is actively developing in 15 trillion years 6 - 8 rubles will give.
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy 23 July 2020 12: 52
    -1
    1) If it is very expensive to drive a car, many will stop driving 2) If it is very expensive to heat houses, they will cut wood and then stop heating 3) Then the rest will move where it is warmer Simple logic with its consequences And only if vodka rises in price, do not drink will cease Conclusion-Russia without hydrocarbons-Russia ethyl alcohol))) And the truth is how many people stopped drinking by buying a car, or at least a little tied up with the amount.Personally, if I know that tomorrow I don’t need to drive, I’ll definitely bother and most of whom I know too And yes - what you need to drink health is an axiom Therefore, the topic but he does not drink speaks of the state of health, which makes you think about point 3) with the keyword "remaining")))
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 24 July 2020 09: 40
      0
      Quote: awdrgy
      1) If it is very expensive to drive a car, many will stop driving

      This will cause a slowdown in work in all areas, that is, monstrous financial losses and an increase in the cost of production, which is not low anyway. Drunkenness is a trifle here ...
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy 24 July 2020 21: 11
        +1
        This is a continuation of the logical chain, so to speak, "its ensuing" Drunkenness is its end
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 23 July 2020 15: 02
    0
    Trader's notes, [21.12.19 19:31]
    Imagine you sell your product abroad, one and 100 people buy goods abroad. You sell for 10 dollars, people buy their goods for 5, 10, etc. Course 50. You earn your 500, people spend their 500 on other goods. But suddenly the price drops to the dollar for your gas. On good terms, you need to close your business. But having connections in the government, you make a course of 500. You still earn your 500 rubles, only the people are already paying 5000 instead of 500 for their goods. I think you understand my line of thought when I say that Gazprom will exist at the expense of ordinary citizens
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy 23 July 2020 18: 08
      -1
      But this is only in the case when the people are obedient, uncomplaining and do not know how otherwise, but if some kind of "not like that"? (And I'm not talking about riots, of course) For example, he starts buying other goods (for example, India is expensive by car we go on a bike) or it just stops buying them (the example of Russia, electricity is expensive, we steal the roads, we don’t buy cheese). That’s the "wrong" of the Russian people And in India, in this case, you can still cook on bikes instead of cars and benzos (although the income is thinner) and when they steal or not they don't buy it, and "everything is bad" (Moreover, they don't buy vodka, but drink a surrogate or do it themselves))) Therefore, Gazprom will not be able to repulse this money unambiguously
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 24 July 2020 09: 42
        0
        Spit on the "murmur of the people". This will cause the collapse of entire sectors of the economy, so that soon there will be no one to pay for gas at all. And then ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 July 2020 16: 01
    -1
    Quote: Sergej1972
    Ukraine, like Russia, exports some types of agricultural products and imports others. And, given the enormous size of the territory of the Russian Federation, we have one and the same type of agricultural products that are both imported and exported. In the Far East, it is more profitable to buy some types of agricultural products exported by Russia from foreign producers.

    My relatives live in Ukraine - I know what I'm talking about hi
  • And Makarov
    And Makarov 24 July 2020 07: 38
    12
    The question is not that Russia needs to give up oil and gas revenues that hinder its innovative and industrial development, as some gentlemen argue, but that these revenues should be invested in those sectors of the economy that will have to become its engines then, when hydrocarbons fade into the background

    Here, this is the key
  • lubesky
    lubesky 25 July 2020 03: 15
    -1
    While the authorities and the elite endlessly ignore the people, it is possible to loudly and clearly (without mass protests and violations of the law) declare that the people do not recognize the capital acquired by the elite as legitimate, in the future they are not going to legitimize this capital and hint to the world community that the countries in the future, when what happens, the people of Russia are not against completely fighting for the stolen capital. The main thing is to indicate the inevitability of revision of the privatization inside and the response outside.
  • ont65
    ont65 25 July 2020 08: 46
    +1
    Another is much more likely. What to trade if the demand for hydrocarbons collapses? And this is leading to the adoption of laws limiting carbon dioxide emissions, the development of alternative energy, in particular hydrogen. The climate is changing very quickly, and restrictions are being introduced for any reason more and more. The trends are clear. The era of oil and gas is not eternal, which our oligarchs clearly did not count on, destroying everything that does not apply to energy in the form that we are seeing now.