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"US backyard": Bolton said that Washington will not allow the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela

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Former security adviser to US President Donald Trump, John Bolton, put Venezuela and its leader Nicolas Maduro under unprecedented pressure. But all his efforts did not lead to the overthrow of the president of this South American country.


John Bolton was interviewed by the Spanish newspaper ABC last week on US policy towards Venezuela.

During the conversation, he said that one of his main goals during his tenure as Trump's adviser was to fight Nicholas Maduro, who is a follower of the course of Hugo Chavez.

Bolton believes that the population of Venezuela does not support their president, and his power is based on a small group of high-ranking officials who subsist on proceeds from drug trafficking and racketeering. The ex-adviser is also confident that Russia and China are providing significant financial support to Caracas. He believes that there is a danger that the Russian Federation or the PRC will create its own military base in Venezuela, but the United States will not allow this. Bolton also notes the significant support for Nicolas Maduro by Cubans.

According to the ex-adviser to Trump, although the United States does not consider the option of direct military intervention in Venezuela's affairs as a priority, it is still not ruled out.

Cuba and Venezuela are viewed as the "backyard" of the United States, which is why in Washington the very talks about the possibility of creating Russian or Chinese military bases in Latin America are perceived extremely painfully. On the other hand, by placing its military bases all over the world, including at the borders of the Russian Federation, the United States least of all takes into account other people's interests.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 July 2020 11: 39
    29
    Russia has every right to protect Russian investments and interests in Venezuela.
    As well as to implement allied obligations.
    So that yard is not lined with mattresses.
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 11: 40
      32
      What a disgusting face ... Besides, worries about his anus in the Anglo-Saxon civilization are not tolerant today! laughing
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 21 July 2020 11: 50
        15
        Cuba and Venezuela are seen as the US backyard

        Yes, they consider the whole world in this context, only in their own "light", they cannot put things in order, they have so neglected that they already stink from all corners, the living creatures have been littered with tolerasts, lgbts, but they do not know how to clean up after them.
        1. novel66
          novel66 21 July 2020 12: 24
          +4
          and the blacks were dismissed beyond measure! lol ours to you! hi
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 21 July 2020 12: 26
            +2
            Hi Roma! hi
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and the blacks were dismissed beyond measure!

            And I mean the same. Previously, at least they knew how to keep them, but now it's not destiny to even read the instructions for keeping blacks. Self-confident guys. lol
            1. novel66
              novel66 21 July 2020 12: 36
              +5
              as our wonderful hockey player and then commentator Mayorov said (I don't remember which repeat ) about a player from Canada without a helmet: "a brave guy, just a little stupid in my opinion!" lol
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 21 July 2020 11: 41
      10
      Backyard of the USA ": Bolton said that Washington will not allow the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela

      А and in what way, "will not allow"???
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 21 July 2020 11: 51
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        And in what way, "will not allow" ???

        Of course, I am aware that this is a rhetorical question, especially during the period "verbal diplomatic battles".

        But still, what the US can oppose (still only supposed, but they have already "burned out" lol ) "Russian expansion" in Latin America?

        Invade Venezuela?
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 21 July 2020 11: 51
        -16 qualifying.
        And in what way, "will not allow" ???

        I think that anyone ..
        Starting from the invasion of Venezuela, ending with the placement of something in Kharkov ..
        Do we need it ??
        And nobody canceled useful sanctions.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 11: 57
          0
          let them try to place something near Kharkov)))) they are not fools
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 21 July 2020 11: 59
            -13 qualifying.
            So they also told us about Venezuela ..
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 12: 44
              0
              and we were not going to place there until they make stupidity like a rocket near Kharkov
    3. Vend
      Vend 21 July 2020 11: 44
      +3
      Quote: Livonetc
      Russia has every right to protect Russian investments and interests in Venezuela.
      As well as to implement allied obligations.
      So that yard is not lined with mattresses.

      We won’t ask laughing We'll have to put laughing
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 22 July 2020 19: 52
        0
        Are we going to ask Venezuela?
        1. Vend
          Vend 23 July 2020 10: 20
          0
          Quote: Alex Justice
          Are we going to ask Venezuela?

          Don't worry, we have already agreed with Venezuela laughing
  2. Lebed
    Lebed 21 July 2020 11: 40
    13
    And we are equipping a logistic base there, not a military base. We are peaceful guys.
    1. asbond
      asbond 21 July 2020 11: 43
      11
      In-in! Logistic only! With adequate protection! And that's it! wink
      1. Lebed
        Lebed 21 July 2020 11: 45
        +7
        Quote: asbond
        With adequate protection! And that's it

        Of course, Good must be with fists angry
      2. Mytholog
        Mytholog 21 July 2020 14: 23
        +3
        No, no, no, we just reload the containers)
    2. prior
      prior 21 July 2020 11: 46
      -15 qualifying.
      With "Kremlin impotent" like Sechin and Miller, we will not equip anything there ... Only once again we will waste financial investments. SP-2 is an example of this.
      1. Kart
        Kart 21 July 2020 11: 50
        +3
        If we listen to the opposition, yes. We won't have anything.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 21 July 2020 11: 58
          +3
          Quote: Carte
          If we listen to the opposition, yes. We won't have anything.

          Whom do you consider to be the opposition, to which the authorities listened, and thus not once "nakosyav" in various spheres of state structure?

          Circles close to the authorities, but at the same time being a destructive element for the country, have the greatest pernicious influence on making wrong decisions.
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 21 July 2020 12: 17
            0
            There is no opposition in our country.
            We have either officials or the elected representatives of the people.
            It is not profitable to be an opposition. No access to budget laughing

            I don't even want to talk about those homosexuals who call themselves oppositionists.
            Those who tell how they fucked each other are fighting for the allocation of the State Department.

            We have a democracy! People are competing in elections for a seat on the pie called BUDGET.

            And nobody cares about how people live.

            ANYONE.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 21 July 2020 12: 38
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir16
              There is no opposition in our country.
              We have either officials or the elected representatives of the people.

              But as you can see, some
              Quote: Carte
              If we listen to the opposition, yes. We won't have anything.
              are trying to blame the failures of the authorities on concessions to the demands of the mythical opposition ..
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 21 July 2020 12: 44
                0
                Putin today signed a decree in which he determined that we will live until the age of 78.

                Decree!!!!!!!! All live up to 78 years old !!!!!! wassat

                Putin ordered! laughing

                How can there be opposition to such decrees? wassat

                ps and if, God forbid, died before reaching 78, you are a violation of the President's decree? winked Against the will of the chief went !!! winked

                So we will live! drinks
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 21 July 2020 12: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir16
                  Putin today signed a decree in which he determined that we will live until the age of 78.

                  Everyone live to 78 years old.

                  Putin ordered!

                  Yes I would not mind what , that's just the miners, as a rule they don't live that much No.
                  1. Vladimir16
                    Vladimir16 21 July 2020 12: 52
                    -1
                    Do what you want. But the decree must be carried out! drinks
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 22 July 2020 08: 03
                      +1
                      If you "do what you want", then only steal - that's just to whom to go as a student in order to learn to steal, and not "gop-stop", but the style of a real "thief in law" working with a state scale - tell me, people kind, otherwise we are newcomers, we do not know anything of this Moscow! " laughing yes good
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 21 July 2020 11: 43
    +3
    Has the United States arrogated to itself the sole right to prohibit independent states from concluding agreements on bases? We urgently need to rent a couple of plots of land with China and it is better to be close to the air defense systems to overlap each other
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 July 2020 12: 00
      +4
      If the United States continues to behave this way, then it will be so and not only in Venezuela ...
      1. novel66
        novel66 21 July 2020 12: 25
        +5
        To twist! hi not with our fleet, alas
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 July 2020 12: 28
          +5
          Greetings! hi
          We need a different base profile until the fleet pulls up, and so far only China can ...
  4. Eldorado
    Eldorado 21 July 2020 11: 47
    +1
    How can they hinder us?
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 July 2020 11: 59
      +4
      Already only in dreams, or negotiate ...
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 21 July 2020 12: 31
        -1
        Quote: cniza
        Already only in dreams

        In wet dreams bully
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 July 2020 12: 41
          +4
          Let them choose which ones suit them best ... lol
  5. iouris
    iouris 21 July 2020 11: 49
    +1
    Bolton is the one who wrote the book revealing the "secrets" of the Trump administration. In this electoral cycle, he is nobody.
  6. Kibl
    Kibl 21 July 2020 11: 52
    +1
    The fabulous tupizvon, as he was an idiot, remained so. All these Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pompeo, Boltons are graduates of the same incubator. And the name of this incubator is the American establishment.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 July 2020 11: 58
      +3
      They have no specialists in Russia left, so they don't know what to do ...
  7. codetalker
    codetalker 21 July 2020 11: 56
    0
    What will Bolton do? Will he be the president of Venezuela?
  8. cniza
    cniza 21 July 2020 11: 57
    +5
    He believes that there is a danger that the Russian Federation or the PRC will create its own military base in Venezuela, but the United States will not allow this.


    Here you can bargain, they are removed from our borders (Ukraine, Georgia), and we will not create bases in Venezuela ...
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 21 July 2020 12: 04
      -2
      Khrushchev had already made a bargain like that once .. our leaders never knew how to bargain .. That is to give the Papuans all kinds of weapons and build infrastructure for free - we can do that .. but we do not know how to bargain. Correctly wrote here .. -Let's go to Venezuela - Ukraine will be glad to receive American missiles .. And Georgia too. And then, when we start to put up and bargain, we will leave Venezuela, but the Americans from Ukraine and Georgia will not ..)) Many times we have already stepped on such a rake. Looking for times to step on. Just as we got it in our pants in the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we are "leveling the line of defense" so far ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 July 2020 12: 23
        +5
        Everything is so, they are poorly capable of speaking, especially in implementation, but it is necessary to do and look for options for how to force them to fulfill their obligations ...
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 21 July 2020 12: 34
          +3
          How elegant and polite you are about them .. Yes, they wanted to put their stars and stripes on all contracts with us .. They are our enemies. And with enemies they speak a little bit in a different language. It was they who poked bases and military laboratories around our country, and not us around them .. And we constantly stand in a losing position in advance. And they force us to make concessions and fulfill their demands .. What is Venezuela ... - in a couple of years, the States will build their own icebreaker fleet with the help of the Finns, and we will also let their caravans through the NSR pass, how nice .. - international waters, you know whether ..
          1. cniza
            cniza 21 July 2020 13: 33
            +2
            Quote: Dikson
            How graceful and polite you are about them .. Yes, they wanted to put their Stars and Stripes on all contracts with us .. They are our enemies. And with enemies they speak a little bit in a different language.


            Their days of dictatorship are passing, and there we will not die alive ...

            And they force us to make concessions and fulfill their demands.


            Not lately.

            in a couple of years, the States will build their own icebreaker fleet with the help of the Finns, and we will also pass their caravans along the NSR, how cute .. - international waters, you know


            Let's wait and see, sort of like a plateau behind us ...
      2. zwlad
        zwlad 21 July 2020 13: 04
        0
        Just as we got it in our pants in the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we are "leveling the line of defense" so far ...

        Who are you talking about?
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 21 July 2020 13: 32
          +1
          This is about Khrushchev and our country with you .. We left Cuba then? And the American nuclear weapons remain in Turkey and the FRG .. If you consider this to be our victory, it's up to you ..
          1. Whiteidol
            Whiteidol 21 July 2020 14: 47
            +1
            Did the USSR put it in your pants? Doubtful. Khrushchev obtained guarantees from the United States not to attack Cuba in order to change the regime. They are observed to this day. The missiles from Turkey (albeit the outdated Jupiter) have been removed. If Khrushchev and Kennedy had not found a compromise, well, Cuba would have been attacked with a subsequent landing. The USSR would have responded to the deaths of Soviet soldiers and officers in Germany and, possibly, struck a blow with special items (torpedoes with nuclear warheads) from existing submarines at the US fleet. How would it all end? .. and so it is clear. You can argue here for a long time. Comrades, correct if something is wrong ...
  9. avia12005
    avia12005 21 July 2020 11: 58
    0
    Kudos to the American Boltons for who they are. Thanks to them, the United States will be destroyed.
  10. paul3390
    paul3390 21 July 2020 12: 00
    +1
    Bolton believes that the population of Venezuela does not support its president, and his power is based on a small group of high-ranking officials who subsist on the proceeds of drug trafficking and racketeering.
    In general, the same can be said about Trump ...
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 12: 00
    +2
    Cuba and Venezuela are viewed as the "backyard" of the United States, which is why in Washington the very talks about the possibility of creating Russian or Chinese military bases in Latin America are perceived extremely painfully.

    How is the Black Sea viewed in the United States?
    We must! It is imperative to consider the location of naval bases (airfields) in Venezuela and Cuba as soon as possible.
    We urgently need to treat this American hemorrhoid with surgery.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 21 July 2020 12: 15
      +1
      Yuri Vasilyevich, do you have an ocean-going fleet capable of constantly cruising across the Atlantic, supplying and supporting your proposed naval bases in Cuba and Venezuela? Here in Syria, which seems to be not so far away, they somehow recruit from all fleets ...))
  12. Poetry
    Poetry 21 July 2020 12: 16
    -1
    Bolton, McCain and Brzezinski have been waiting for you for a long time in Hell. Absenteeism is set. am am
  13. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 12: 21
    +3
    = "US backyard": Bolton said that Washington will not allow the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela =
    Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs needs to learn from Chatterbox and prevent the creation of NATO and mattress byz in the Baltics, Poland, and any Romania and Bulgaria, etc.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 21 July 2020 12: 26
      0
      Late, Krasnoyarsk ...) Hi to the hunchback!
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 12: 55
        +2
        Quote: Dikson
        Late, Krasnoyarsk ...) Hi to the hunchback!

        I send my regards to him (forbidden by the rules of the site) every day.
        This is my personal enemy. An aspen stake to him in one place.
    2. novel66
      novel66 21 July 2020 12: 27
      +2
      is it too late?
  14. ioan-e
    ioan-e 21 July 2020 12: 27
    0
    Two questions:
    Former Security Advisor to US President Donald Trump John Bolton

    1. Who is this?
    Washington will not allow the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela

    2. How?
    But seriously, after an attempt at a military invasion, albeit a mediated one, there is no point in barking, of course, if you are not ready to start a war.
  15. orionvitt
    orionvitt 21 July 2020 12: 33
    -1
    his power rests on a small group of high-ranking officials who subsist on proceeds from drug trafficking and racketeering
    Excuse me, drug trafficking and racketeering, this has always been the domain of the United States. What a fashion, hang your own sins on others. However, what I mean, this is the USA. Well, let them fight. The only question is, where is this Guaido? And Maduro remained as he was.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 21 July 2020 12: 34
    0
    This is, as it were, "their backyard", BUT, after all, they do not limit themselves to any limits and climb everywhere!
    However, in order to resist them, one must have real strength and resources, not small. Everything is very difficult.
  17. Tugarin
    Tugarin 21 July 2020 12: 52
    14
    Let him have a doll in his States, director damn it laughing
  18. musorg
    musorg 21 July 2020 12: 53
    0
    Your name is Old Talker!
  19. zwlad
    zwlad 21 July 2020 13: 02
    0
    Baltun said blabblah.
    Who will ask them if needed.
  20. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 21 July 2020 13: 18
    -1
    The face is so kind.))
    It's like Bobby Kotick, whom many hate, but he is a kind-hearted person.
  21. Klingon
    Klingon 21 July 2020 13: 31
    0
    Isn't Japan the backyard of the Russian Federation? so the striped bases in Japan have niche, we live laughing so I don't understand their claims about Venezuela
  22. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 July 2020 13: 37
    0
    Regrettably, Russia now does not have the opportunity to create a base in Venezuela on a permanent basis. Logistics does not allow. The entire Russian fleet under flags of convenience. One stroke of the State Department pen and the steamer becomes not the entrance. we'll see.
  23. Old26
    Old26 21 July 2020 13: 48
    +4
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    let them try to place something near Kharkov)))) they are not fools

    If you need it, they will place it. And a naval base in the Black Sea (Odessa or elsewhere), and a missile base in one of the eastern regions of Ukraine. Will we be able to prevent the creation of such a base (s) in "our backyard"? Not sure...
    The creation of a naval base in Venezuela (especially where Maduro proposes) is billions of dollars (trillions of rubles), this is the creation of a structure that, when "mixed" simply will not survive, plus a huge amount of equipment will be needed, which still will not give 100% of the effect

    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    and we were not going to place there until they make stupidity like a rocket near Kharkov

    They are not going to place anything near Kharkiv (yet), but rumors about Maduro's proposal for a Russian naval base have been circulating for several years.

    Quote: ROSS 42
    We must! It is imperative to consider the location of naval bases (airfields) in Venezuela and Cuba as soon as possible.

    In dreams? Get down to the sinful ground and take off your rose-colored glasses. What are you going to place at the naval base in Cuba? "Buyany-M" class "river-sea"? Even during the Cuban missile crisis, we were not able to conduct even the planned squadron there in advance. Now we will have to invest trillions to build the base itself (no matter where, in Cuba or Venezuela) - or do you think that the Cubans (Venezuelans) will build all this for us? To create a fleet, which is now unlikely to go beyond the Mediterranean, to have jump airfields in order to transfer something there (who will give us such airfields "for free"). We build frigates longer than the enemy builds aircraft carriers, and in the same place - "faster to consider".
  24. K-50
    K-50 21 July 2020 14: 22
    -1
    Bolton said that Washington will not allow the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela

    Where are you going to go !!! fellow
    If Russia wants to, just rub it off and swallow it. You only know how to fight with the barmaley, and even then only with those who were brought up before. And they often teach you the rules of behavior afterwards. yes wassat
  25. bar
    bar 21 July 2020 14: 30
    0
    Former adviser to US President Donald Trump

    Former advisor to the practically ex-president, his opinion is very important to us laughing
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 21 July 2020 14: 56
      0
      As a rule, ex-presidents and ex-advisers are always talkative .. - while they are in office, it is not recommended for them to talk about much .. but how to resign, so everything that can and cannot be blurted out begins .. And in this chatter a lot of truthful information is hidden in fact .. - bursts them with their own significance and importance .. Therefore, it is worth listening to the rhetoric of these citizens, applying the appropriate "noise reduction" ...)))
  26. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 21 July 2020 14: 57
    0
    "..... but the US won't let that happen."
    that is, proceeding from its logic, we can also try to physically eliminate politicians "unwanted" to us in Ukraine ?!
  27. av58
    av58 21 July 2020 15: 31
    0
    I wonder how the United States "will not allow" the creation of a Russian military base in Venezuela, especially if China is in trouble?
  28. 5-9
    5-9 21 July 2020 16: 42
    0
    Doesn't he get him there for disclosing state secrets yet?
  29. Old26
    Old26 21 July 2020 16: 52
    0
    Quote: K-50
    If Russia wants to, just rub it off and swallow it.

    Alexey! Well, just do not grumble. The distance from the United States to Venezuela is about 3000 km. From Russia - at best 10 km. If necessary, the US Navy will "block" Venezuela, and if a decision is made, it will roll it out like a tortoise, what can we do if, as you say, "Russia wants to - America crumbles"? What will you send there? Frigate in the amount of "one piece"? Or what? After all, it is necessary to turn on the brain and soberly assess the strength of the parties ...

    Quote: cniza
    Let's wait and see, sort of like a plateau behind us ...

    So what? What does the shelf have to do with waters? The shelf may be at a distance of 200 km from ours, but the terwaters are only 12 miles away. Further - alas, not ours.

    Quote: Dikson
    This is about Khrushchev and our country with you .. We left Cuba then? And the American nuclear weapons remain in Turkey and the FRG .. If you consider this to be our victory, it's up to you ..

    You are not entirely correct. The Americans also removed their missiles from Turkey, Britain and Italy (in those years there were no missiles in the FRG at all). Tactical nuclear weapons remained in these countries, but the same TNS were also in service with the brigade, which was in Cuba before the collapse of the Union.

    Quote: Whiteidol
    Did the USSR put it in your pants? Doubtful. Khrushchev obtained guarantees from the United States not to attack Cuba in order to change the regime. They are observed to this day. The missiles from Turkey (albeit the outdated Jupiter) have been removed. If Khrushchev and Kennedy had not found a compromise, well, Cuba would have been attacked with a subsequent landing. The USSR would have responded to the deaths of Soviet soldiers and officers in Germany and, possibly, struck a blow with special items (torpedoes with nuclear warheads) from existing submarines at the US fleet. How would it all end? .. and so it is clear. You can argue here for a long time. Comrades, correct if something is wrong ...

    You are too simplistic, too, reasoning. The USSR really achieved guarantees of non-aggression against Cuba. But if a conflict had begun, God forbid, the USSR would have found itself in a losing position in relation to the United States. We would have destroyed Europe, there is no doubt about that, but the United States would have destroyed the USSR. Our submarines (diesel, by the way) were in the US region (in the blockade zone) - 3 or 4. What would become of them if they struck a torpedo on US ships - no questions arise ...
    1. KKND
      KKND 21 July 2020 17: 04
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Alexei! Well, that's just no need to shrug.

      Come on, why are you trying to bring a spark of reason to uryakalka? Think on the other hand, the more we and they will have uryakalok, the greater the chance of a big war, nuclear, and war, as you know, is the continuation of natural selection among the human population. After a nuclear war, the number of uryakalok will sharply decrease, and if you survive, you will not need to argue with them.
    2. Sergey Kulikov_3
      Sergey Kulikov_3 21 July 2020 17: 11
      0
      There is no need to argue, it is necessary to think, and what would 5-20-500-10000 missiles with nuclear warheads do with the USSR? It would have flown a little, and the damage would not have been very large, forget the tales about the super-duper-vigorous-loaf, not everything is so bad, mind you Japan survived, although the Americans dreamed of super-large losses, but everything did not happen like that.
      1. KKND
        KKND 21 July 2020 17: 24
        0
        Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
        Well, what would 5-20-500-10000 missiles with nuclear warheads do with the USSR?

        Not you are wrong here, he knows very well about the real possibilities of nuclear weapons. Of course, 10000 missiles in the USSR would not have killed everyone, but very many, and the rest would not have had a sweet spot either. In modern estimates, I saw figures that in the United States in cases of war, 150 million will die in our country, 120, but these are figures from the couch in real life, how things will go.
  30. wow
    wow 21 July 2020 17: 17
    0
    And how do you, amers, toilet paper (without which you can't do anything) made of sandpaper ...?
  31. Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 21 July 2020 17: 28
    14
    How are they "not allowed" gathered?
  32. senima56
    senima56 21 July 2020 17: 37
    0
    Oh, how! stop So American troops in Poland, Romania, you can! And the Russians in Venezuela are not allowed ?! Why?! "Uncle Sam" doesn't like it ?! Then let the Americans completely withdraw from Europe, or we will deploy troops in Venezuela and Cuba! As N. Khrushchev said: "Let's put a hedgehog in the pants of the Americans!" lol lol good
  33. Crash
    Crash 21 July 2020 17: 50
    +2
    believes that there is a danger of the creation by the Russian Federation or the PRC of its military base in Venezuela

    American logic:
    1. To surround Russia and China with military bases
    2. Resent that somewhere behind a puddle, in their earthly hemisphere, perhaps a Russian or Chinese base will appear.
    3. Introduce sanctions against Russia and China, because purely theoretically
    somewhere behind a puddle, in their earthly hemisphere, perhaps there will be a Russian or Chinese base
  34. Old26
    Old26 21 July 2020 18: 29
    0
    Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
    There is no need to argue, it is necessary to think, and what would 5-20-500-10000 missiles with nuclear warheads do with the USSR? It would have flown a little, and the damage would not have been very large, forget the tales about the super-duper-vigorous-loaf, not everything is so scary, mind you. Japan survived, although the Americans dreamed of super-large losses, but it did not happen that way.

    You wrote it very correctly: think, but you yourself do not want to think. What would you do with the USSR? Yes, they would roll out a turtle like God. The Americans dropped only 2 nuclear bombs on Japan. But what they had was more than enough for the entire Soviet Union.
    In 1962, the United States had 7200 strategic nuclear warheads (213 on ICBMs, 44 on SLBMs, 1306 nuclear bombers (675 B-47, 76 B-58, 555 B-52). In total, they could lift a little more in one sortie. 3100 munitions, including 184 Hound Dog cruise missiles. Including tactical nuclear weapons, the United States had nearly 27300 nuclear weapons at the time of the Cuban missile crisis

    In 1962, the USSR had 522 strategic nuclear charges (36 on ICBMs, 72 on SLBMs, 138 nuclear bombers (80 TU-95A, 58 M-4). In total, they could raise 412 nuclear weapons in one sortie. Taking into account tactical At the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, the USSR had 3322 nuclear warheads. , but do not write that nothing special would have happened. Because of Khrushchev's stupidity, the world was one step away from a world thermonuclear war in which the USSR would have been defeated

    Quote: senima56
    Oh how! stop So American troops are in Poland, Romania - you can! And the Russians in Venezuela are not allowed ?!

    Can. That's just in dreams, since in reality we cannot create any base there, and even more so in the event of a conflict ... And the Americans can place bases not only in Poland and Romania, but if they want to in Ukraine and Georgia. They will be able to do it. But we don't have that kind of money. Therefore, the bases in Cuba and Venezuela are just a balm for the wounds of the pricks. No more
  35. venaly
    venaly 21 July 2020 22: 22
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    From Venezuela to Washington, 1500 km. And this is for the talker "back yard" Well then for Moscow "back yard - half of Europe and Ankara by the way.
  36. Tugarin
    Tugarin 21 July 2020 23: 38
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    If we want to stick in the base, we will ask the merikatos last. yes
  37. Old26
    Old26 22 July 2020 01: 00
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    Quote: Tugarin
    If we want to stick in the base, we will ask the merikatos last. yes

    We will ask exactly the last thing. But the Wishlist did not grow with us. We can not create ANY BASE in Venezuela from the word at all. All that we can send a couple of Tupolevs for a few days with a courtesy call. We cannot even create a full-fledged naval base in Syria, we are content with the PMTO. And there, in Venezuela, they soaped up. Keep on shitting further
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  39. Vdi73
    Vdi73 22 July 2020 15: 19
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    Now, in principle, it is necessary to put bases there and preferably the Navy and the Aerospace Forces, and then it will be seen, see what pi..sy will do and, if necessary, place missiles.
  40. Phoenix040
    Phoenix040 22 July 2020 23: 09
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    Why, the United States could climb into Lithuania, but the Russian Federation cannot enter Venezuela ?! The Yankees have beguiled the Rams again!
    1. Kuzmitsky
      24 July 2020 23: 48
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      It is possible, of course, to build a Russian base in Venezuela and in Papua New Guinea. Or maybe somewhere near Donetsk. Guests from Russia will definitely be welcome here, and it's not far away.