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US Congress unanimously tightens sanctions against Nord Stream 2

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The House of Representatives of the US Congress passed a vote on toughening sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 and Turkish Stream gas pipelines. The bill was approved unanimously.


Amendments to strengthen the sanctions will be included in the draft defense budget for the next fiscal year.

The bill provides for sanctions against foreign citizens whose actions are related to the sale, lease or provision of vessels used for pipe-laying.

The Americans imposed sanctions preventing the construction of gas pipelines last year, and in 2020 they decided to tighten them. Two different bills to strengthen sanctions were submitted separately to the House of Representatives and the Senate of the US Congress. When the sanctions restrictions are approved, a specially created commission will coordinate the discrepancies in the draft defense budget.

Earlier, the US State Department also spoke out for toughening sanctions against pipelines designed to deliver Russian gas to European countries. Mike Pompeo demanded that the companies involved in the construction of SP-2 "leave immediately."

As you can see, the United States does not stop trying to stop the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

It should be noted that earlier Denmark gave the go-ahead for the use of vessels with so-called anchor positioning. The Fortuna pipelayer belongs to such vessels. As far as is known, neither Fortuna nor Akademik Chersky has yet begun to resume the construction of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 21 July 2020 09: 16 New
    +1
    Congressmen just moved out of the gut.
    Donnie, of course, is still a substance, against their background - just an angel. (True fallen)
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 21 July 2020 09: 38 New
      13
      What is Gluzdu? winked
      And who is Donnie? request

      The Americans are consistently bending over the EU.
      It would be surprising if they did not impose sanctions.

      We need to be able to live our minds.

      Everything is logical.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 21 July 2020 09: 46 New
        +8
        What is Gluzdu?

        "Gluzd" - (outdated) mind, reason, head.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 July 2020 09: 53 New
          +3
          As far as is known, neither Fortuna nor Akademik Chersky has yet begun to resume the construction of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.


          The completion of the gas pipeline will begin after the deadline for appealing the renewed permit of Denmark - August 3.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 21 July 2020 13: 31 New
            -1
            US Congress unanimously tightens sanctions against Nord Stream 2

            American secretaries will not back down on this issue - until the start of the American PROXY war in the European region for the American interests of the United States; A PROXY war for which the Pentagon is actively preparing. And Washington wanted to spit on the national interests of the Europeans themselves!
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 21 July 2020 11: 29 New
        20
        It's time to shut down McDonald's in Russia. They threaten the safety of Russians.
        1. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. 21 July 2020 12: 28 New
          22
          Quote: Alex Justice
          It's time to close McDonald's in Russia

          It's high time to close this hotbed of junk food.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 22 July 2020 19: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Vladimir B.
            It's high time to close this hotbed of junk food.

            noooo !!! this is the only network of free toilets, and you work from the early morning!
        2. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 21 July 2020 15: 55 New
          0
          Exactly! And to impose sanctions against small soft and Hollywood. And also against everyone who defends their interests. At least something will be useful for the people.
        3. BAI
          BAI 21 July 2020 21: 15 New
          0
          It's time to shut down McDonald's in Russia.

          This should have been done in 2014, when McDoug left the Crimea.
        4. muham
          muham 21 July 2020 21: 46 New
          -3
          Quote: Alex Justice
          It's time to shut down McDonald's in Russia. They threaten the safety of Russians.

          That's right, take the girls' panties with lace, hey, pantaloons are not enough for them. And turn a lada a penny, there is no way to spit on tayets. And vaasche, according to the law, turn all the Rassiyans, sell villas in Italy, and America, cottage houses are empty.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 July 2020 09: 55 New
      15
      Quote: Victor_B
      Congressmen just moved out of the gut.

      Yes, not where they did not move these "gresmen". and with the deaf, they are also all right. Just confirming that their unanimous vote shows that in the United States in relation to Russia, there are not even sympathizers, but only enemies.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 21 July 2020 10: 21 New
        +5
        The power of the straw bends. Merkel will be upset, Lavrov will attend to and Zakharova will say something interesting, she knows how, Putin will tell the people that Congress decided not just out of anger, but this is, they say, unfair competition. What's the use of this? This is Mr. Putin, you do not take parades so that you shout cheers. It is a shame for the country that he cannot put an oversized hooligan in his place. Even our pipelayers remained standing in the port, because they understand that the owner of the house is not Putin or Merkel. And there will be thousands of tons of high-quality steel lying uselessly on the bottom of the Baltic Sea. Pisces to laugh.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 July 2020 11: 17 New
          +2
          The PRC authorities decided to stop importing gas from Canada and start buying hydrocarbons from Russia, because they consider Moscow a more reliable partner in the matter of supplies, writes the Chinese newspaper Sina.
          An important factor in this matter was the fact that there are already working joint projects of the Russian Federation and the PRC in the energy sector, notes Sina.

          According to the newspaper's analysts, China expects Russia to increase gas supplies to the country to 130 billion cubic meters a year.

          The reason is obvious - China does not trust Canada, because that is under US control ...
          130 billion cubic meters !!!! More than both Nord Streams !!! Perhaps this is why the US Congress urgently makes such decisions!

          But ... the construction of SP-2 will continue after August 3, as I wrote above, there are legal issues that must be observed ... so do not worry about thousands of tons of high-quality steel ... SP-2 will be built and the gas will go directly to Germany ..
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 21 July 2020 11: 40 New
            -3
            I will add

            If Russia supplies gas to China in the amount of 130 billion cubic meters. per year -This will be a signal to Europe that it does not "sag" much under the United States in matters of banning the supply of Russian natural gas in favor of liquefied gas from America. If, under the existing pressure from the West, Russia suddenly decides to refuse gas supplies, Europe will immediately face an inevitable crisis ...
            It's funny that China wants to give up Canadian soybeans too ... I think Russia will be able to replace the entire volume of soybeans from Canada ...
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            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 21 July 2020 11: 53 New
              +3
              I would have a couple of cubes of gas in my house.
              Yes, only for the connection of gas they asked 350 thousand. Given that the pipe goes along the edge of the site.
              Only there is no such money.

              I have to play with Germany and all the Chinese.
              For the Germans, Turks and Chinese, Gazprom is dragging the pipe at its own expense.
              Through storms and sanctions
              And they sell a pipe to a Russian.
              So the question is - Gazprom, whose will you be?

              In our country there are MILLIONS like me (without gas in the house).
              And we have here (on the site) compassionate people are worried about the gas supply nemchure.

              You live well, since you have no other worries.
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              It is a shame for the country that he cannot put an oversized hooligan in his place.

              That comrade is ashamed that the American comrades announced sanctions to their European comrades.

              All of you are definitely not my comrades.

              And I'm not ashamed of the country. I'm proud of my country. The history of our country prompted me to do this.
              Our people are wonderful. With the exception of those who put the interests of foreign citizens above the interests of Russian citizens.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 21 July 2020 14: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Nasr
              If Russia supplies gas to China in the amount of 130 billion cubic meters. per year -This will be a signal to Europe that it does not "bend" much under the United States in

              And Russia will not break out its hands like the United States. Whatever states do, involve hand-breaking. It was and will be.
          2. vladimirvn
            vladimirvn 21 July 2020 11: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            The PRC authorities decided to stop importing gas from Canada and start buying hydrocarbons from Russia

            At such prices that they sell ours, what not to buy. We have adjusted the pipes, which are now half empty and are sold at prices lower than anywhere else.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 21 July 2020 12: 21 New
              +2
              April 2020:
              Based on data from the Chinese customs, the average delivery price for Power of Siberia in January-February 2020 was $ 203,4 per 1 cubic meters. This price was formed based on the price of oil in the previous three quarters ($ 64,6 per barrel of Brent). In this case, in May 2014, when oil cost $ 110 per barrel, contractual gas could cost about $ 350 per 1 cubic meters.
              Is $ 203 per 1 cubic meters a lot or a little? At the moment this is, apparently, one of the highest prices in the export portfolio of Gazprom. Spot gas prices in Western Europe have now dropped to $ 85 per 1 cubic meters, while in Asia the Platts JKM Liquefied Gas Spot Price Index has dropped to an absolute minimum of $ 81 per 1 cubic meters. True, the price of Gazprom's supplies to China has yet to fall following the price of oil, given the nine-month lag. However, even with an oil price of $ 30, the cost of gas for the Power of Siberia is quite in the current market - at $ 95 per 1 cubic meters. For comparison, the cost of LNG in Asia under long-term contracts pegged to oil at 11% will amount to $ 119 per 1 cubic meters.

              By the way, the Soviet leadership, increasing gas supplies to Western Europe in the early 1980s at an oil price of $ 35 per barrel, hardly anticipated their fall below $ 15 in 1986. Nevertheless, the pipes have already been laid, and the European market is occupied by Russian gas, which brought dividends later.
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity 21 July 2020 12: 41 New
                0
                Quote: Nasr
                Nevertheless, the pipes have already been laid, and the European market is occupied by Russian gas, which brought dividends later.

                The pipes were laid by some, and the dividends were received by others.
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 21 July 2020 12: 48 New
                  +2
                  Quote: pmkemcity
                  Quote: Nasr
                  Nevertheless, the pipes have already been laid, and the European market is occupied by Russian gas, which brought dividends later.

                  The pipes were laid by some, and the dividends were received by others.

                  Well, yes, some have annexed Siberia, while others are receiving dividends! wassat
            2. Vladimir B.
              Vladimir B. 21 July 2020 12: 32 New
              19
              Quote: vladimirvn
              We have built pipes, which are now half-empty and are being sold at prices below nowhere.

              But inside the country, the price of gas will rise from August 1 this year.
            3. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 21 July 2020 18: 34 New
              +1
              Vladimir Nikolayevich! This is dumping, sir, that is, squeezing out a new market, or in another case, an attempt to keep a competitor out of your chicken coop.
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          4. BAI
            BAI 21 July 2020 21: 16 New
            0
            According to the newspaper's analysts, China expects Russia to increase gas supplies to the country to 130 billion cubic meters a year.

            There are problems with downloading the Power of Siberia. There is no consumer.
        2. HUNTERDON
          HUNTERDON 21 July 2020 11: 56 New
          -7
          don't you moan. Everything will be the way.
          1. RMT
            RMT 21 July 2020 14: 13 New
            0
            Will prices go down or what?
        3. Alexey from Perm
          Alexey from Perm 21 July 2020 15: 31 New
          +1
          This is our money, because Gazprom, the property of Miller, and not the people, raises our prices.
      2. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. 21 July 2020 12: 29 New
        14
        Quote: tihonmarine
        in the United States in relation to Russia, there are not even sympathizers, but only enemies

        It was, it is, and it will be so long as the states themselves and their obscene system exist.
    3. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. 21 July 2020 12: 27 New
      12
      That congressmen, that Trump, they are all the same. There is no difference between them.
    4. snake
      snake 21 July 2020 14: 16 New
      +1
      And God bless him, with this SP-2. You can't make money with gas these days.
      Export price of gas has become cheaper than Russian
      https://www.rbc.ru/business/20/05/2020/5ec5157b9a794717c8b1c2fa
      We will sell gold.
      Well, so that Miller does not take offense, we will increase the gas price for the Russian consumer by 3%. Patriotic? Still would! Hit your own so that strangers laugh ...
  2. Woodman
    Woodman 21 July 2020 09: 17 New
    +8
    voting on tougher sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 and Turkish Stream gas pipelines. The bill was approved unanimously.
    Only business and nothing personal. What, to the devil, democracy and free competition when it comes to money ...
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 21 July 2020 09: 24 New
      -3
      What, to the devil, democracy and free competition when it comes to money.
      This applies not only to business ..
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 21 July 2020 09: 38 New
      +8
      Quote: Lesovik
      Only business and nothing personal.

      What a business to a devil. This is an open economic war already.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 21 July 2020 10: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: DenZ
        What a business to a devil. This is an open economic war already.

        No, this is still a business today.
        An economic war today is when one of the private companies ensures its victory in the competitive struggle with the help of the armed forces of its state. Like Halliburton in Iraq. smile
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 July 2020 10: 22 New
      +9
      Quote: Lesovik
      What, to the devil, democracy and free competition when it comes to money.

      I remember praising WTO accession. Like, now there will be only fair competition. Haha, live with wolves ...
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 July 2020 10: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      What, to the devil, democracy and free competition when it comes to money ...

      America and business are inseparable.
  3. Baloo
    Baloo 21 July 2020 09: 18 New
    +6
    Will the EU swallow it and rub it? wassat
    1. barin
      barin 21 July 2020 09: 20 New
      13
      The European Union will start bypass schemes to fence
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 21 July 2020 09: 33 New
        -13
        Quote: barin
        The European Union will start bypass schemes to fence

        The time for pipelines is gone. How much money Gazprom has already buried money only Putin knows. They were going to pull the second branch to China, when the first one is not filled. The same with the Turkish flow - the branch is not filled
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 09: 36 New
          0
          where did you read such nonsense
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 July 2020 11: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            where did you read such nonsense

            They say the OBS agency began to publish the newspaper.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 11: 32 New
              0
              OBS can still be trusted))) grandmothers are sometimes more knowledgeable
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 July 2020 11: 56 New
            -2
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            where did you read such nonsense

            It is not necessary to read, you can simply count and analyze. I am not saying that it is necessary to abandon pipelines, but to build new ones with a length of thousands of kilometers, which it is not known whether they will pay off at all ... although if you count independent experts, you may see the light
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 12: 38 New
              -1
              we sell gas and not pipelines, the payback of which is several decades, it does not matter whether they pay off or not, if we don’t sell gas, others will build pipelines and others will receive money for gas
            2. Brturin
              Brturin 21 July 2020 14: 51 New
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              it is necessary to abandon pipelines, but build new ones with a length of thousands of kilometers, which it is not known whether they will pay off at all ... although if you count independent experts, you may see the light

              The trouble is the Israelis do not know about it ...
              !July 20. The Israeli government approved a framework agreement between the Jewish state, Greece and Cyprus for the construction of the EastMed pipeline, which was signed by the ministers of the three countries on January 2 in Athens ... km by land, will take about seven years and will cost about $ 1900 billion. The design capacity is 1300 billion cubic meters of gas annually. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/600
        2. Thrall
          Thrall 21 July 2020 09: 37 New
          14
          Quote: Pilat2009
          The time of pipelines is gone

          Excuse me, but what time has come? We just don't know.
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 21 July 2020 10: 41 New
            +6
            Probably teleportation portals. ))))
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 01 New
            -1
            Quote: Thrall
            Quote: Pilat2009
            The time of pipelines is gone

            Excuse me, but what time has come? We just don't know.

            How does Japan, for example, get energy? By tankers. Can you build an oil pipeline in the United States too? Or will the Saudis build it to Europe?
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 12: 39 New
              0
              tankers are much more expensive, which means they can afford to buy expensive gas
        3. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 July 2020 09: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Quote: barin
          The European Union will start bypass schemes to fence

          The time for pipelines is gone. How much money Gazprom has already buried money only Putin knows. They were going to pull the second branch to China, when the first one is not filled. The same with the Turkish flow - the branch is not filled

          It's not time for new pipelines yet !!! Battles are still being fought over the Ukrainian pipe laid 50 years ago ...
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          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 06 New
            -3
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Quote: barin
            The European Union will start bypass schemes to fence

            The time for pipelines is gone. How much money Gazprom has already buried money only Putin knows. They were going to pull the second branch to China, when the first one is not filled. The same with the Turkish flow - the branch is not filled

            It's not time for new pipelines yet !!! Battles are still being fought over the Ukrainian pipe laid 50 years ago ...

            They are being conducted only so that Ukraine lives off tariffs, and if Gazprom had a tanker fleet for liquefied gas, there would be no battles for a long time
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 21 July 2020 12: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: Pilat2009

              They are carried out only so that Ukraine lives at the expense of tariffs

              No, Ukraine is here as a battlefield, and battles are being fought over gas supplies to Europe, and Europe has been supplied since the times of the USSR and all claims for the lack of the proper amount (and why if there is a pipe that makes gas cheaper?) Of gas carriers exactly there in history, in the USSR, and then they thought that the pipe would tie consumers to the supplier much more profitably - and after all, they were right !!! ...
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 25 New
                -5
                Quote: Nasr
                Quote: Pilat2009

                They are carried out only so that Ukraine lives at the expense of tariffs

                No, Ukraine is here as a battlefield, and battles are being fought over gas supplies to Europe, and Europe has been supplied since the times of the USSR and all claims for the lack of the proper amount (and why if there is a pipe that makes gas cheaper?) Of gas carriers exactly there in history, in the USSR, and then they thought that the pipe would tie consumers to the supplier much more profitably - and after all, they were right !!! ...

                The cheapness of pipeline gas does not at all prevent the Saudis from supplying liquefied gas. And if you add the cost of the pipe to the price, then it is not so cheap it turns out. By the way, it is so tied to the supplier that it is cheaper to buy at the exchange. Therefore, Ukraine has not been buying from Gazprom, and everyone is building terminals, but the power of Siberia will never pay off
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 21 July 2020 12: 31 New
                  +1
                  Ukraine simply takes gas from the same transit gas pipeline that goes from Russia to Europe through Ukraine, and according to the documents, allegedly, "buys gas in Europe", "on the stock exchange" or somewhere else ...
                  Do not worry about the power of Siberia, Above our correspondence with you, I have already written a lot about the power of Siberia, if constructively - you can read and this is not our data, but Chinese. Well, if for the purpose of trolling, then there is nothing to talk about ...
                  1. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 45 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Ukraine simply takes gas from the same transit gas pipeline that goes from Russia to Europe through Ukraine, and according to the documents, allegedly, "buys gas in Europe", "on the stock exchange" or somewhere else ...
                    Do not worry about the power of Siberia, Above our correspondence with you, I have already written a lot about the power of Siberia, if constructively - you can read and this is not our data, but Chinese. Well, if for the purpose of trolling, then there is nothing to talk about ...

                    You wrote that the price generally corresponds to the market price, but no one knows whether the project will pay off, the TK contract is kept secret, but based on the fact that it was signed at the peak of prices, and even then the experts doubted the profitability, it does not come out too rosy now Yes, even the Chayadinskoye field will not be enough in light of the latest scandal to fill the pipe, it will have to be connected with the Kovykta field, and this is another 1000 km of pipes
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 21 July 2020 13: 08 New
                      +2
                      What would be clear about filling pipes and plans for pipes:

                      (here the picture is the largest - https://coins.lave.ru/forum/pic/6889187.jpg)
                      The power of Siberia creates, among other things, modern gas processing and gas chemical production in the Far East - everything will be all right with profitability ...
                2. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 12: 41 New
                  0
                  yeah, he doesn't buy)))) what a fairy tale))) almost all of the gas from Russia, even the American liquefied gas also has a part from Russia
                  1. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    yeah, he doesn't buy)))) what a fairy tale))) almost all of the gas from Russia, even the American liquefied gas also has a part from Russia

                    It is quite possible, but this speaks of the strange pricing policy of Gazprom if its gas can be resold 10 times
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 21 July 2020 13: 02 New
                      0
                      capitalism, you can resell any thing as much as you like
                    2. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 21 July 2020 13: 28 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Pilat2009
                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      yeah, he doesn't buy)))) what a fairy tale))) almost all of the gas from Russia, even the American liquefied gas also has a part from Russia


                      It is quite possible, but this speaks of the strange pricing policy of Gazprom if its gas can be resold 10 times

                      The policy is simple - Ukraine is deceiving itself:
                      Ukraine buys Russian gas after pumping it to Europe to intermediary firms. This was announced by the head of the Energy Committee of the Verkhovna Rada Andriy Gerus

                      “So that we do not deceive anyone: we buy gas from company X, company X buys from Gazprom. Thus, we allegedly do not buy from Gazprom, but de facto Gazprom sold it to an intermediary firm - gas goes to Ukraine, but first it passes through Ukraine and becomes more expensive, on the one hand, and on the other - we receive transit fees, and then he on the reverse, there is Slovakia, returns to Ukraine ", - explained Gerus

                      Obviously, all manipulations with the reverse are on paper, but the price increases in any case .... Slovaks will not pay for the pumping of gas allegedly bought for themselves, after the gas was sold to Ukraine ...
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 21 July 2020 14: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              And if Gazprom had a tanker fleet for liquefied gas, there would be no battles for a long time

              For Europe, this will work, but it is necessary to put into operation regasification terminals of liquefied natural gas, since they are not enough. Well, how to deliver LNG by tankers throughout Russia. There are big problems everywhere. But in Russia they started to deal with LNG. One tanker problem.
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 July 2020 11: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Pilat2009
          The time for pipelines is gone.

          And the time for fools has come.
    2. BAI
      BAI 21 July 2020 21: 17 New
      -1
      Will the EU swallow it and rub it?

      Will rub off. As well as RF.
  4. Kibl
    Kibl 21 July 2020 09: 20 New
    +1
    The freaks are completely insolent, striped with stars, studded. Come on, crush this black gopot White Trash. Give the collapse of the USA !!!
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 21 July 2020 09: 39 New
      -2
      Quote: KIBL
      Come on, smash the black gopot this White Trash. Give the collapse of the USA !!!

      Russia has two allies - the national debt and the blacks-gopniks.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 July 2020 09: 21 New
    -2
    Well, when will they finally finish building it. Soon the year will be as it paused. This will be "our response to the sanctions" ... I don’t want to read anything more about this except: "The last joint of the SP-2 is welded!"
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 21 July 2020 09: 26 New
      -14
      I don’t want to read anything more about this except: "The last joint of the SP-2 is welded!"

      Is it real ??)
      Is there really nothing more interesting and joyful in life?
      To rave about some pipelines .. which have nothing to do with us .. Damn, people .. what's wrong with you ..
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 21 July 2020 09: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: Roman123567
        To rave about some pipelines .. which have nothing to do with us .. Damn, people .. what's wrong with you ..

        Who is it to "us"? They may not come to you, but this is income to the budget of Russia, which means to our pocket too.
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 21 July 2020 09: 48 New
          -9
          this is income to the budget of Russia, which means in our pocket too


          Do you really believe in it ?? Adults are people .. like ..
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 21 July 2020 10: 17 New
            +3
            Quote: Roman123567
            Do you really believe in it ?? Adults are people .. like ..

            Of course not. All the people who shake hands know that the Russian budget is filled exclusively with money taken by the bloody regime from the downtrodden unfortunate citizens. smile
            Everyone and everywhere is evading taxes. But, compared to the holy 90s, now the oil and gas sector pays taxes. And not as before, when these companies regularly ended the year with zero or negative profits (the company is unprofitable, and the owner's fortune is only growing laughing ).
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 21 July 2020 11: 30 New
              0
              Well, yes .. the moment the Power of Siberia was launched, it immediately increased in wallets ..
              And after the Turkish Stream, and at all - the zipper does not converge to fasten it ..
              I just get sick of you ..))
              1. Lena Petrova
                Lena Petrova 21 July 2020 19: 59 New
                +1
                Become a shareholder and start receiving direct dividends. And if not, then only indirectly, through the funds transferred to the budget. Perhaps you have already received 10 thousand per child in June and July, or drove along the Tavrida highway. This is a small portion of these tax payments. But it's not in your personal pocket, is it?
              2. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 21 July 2020 21: 55 New
                +1
                Quote: Roman123567
                Well, yes .. the moment the Power of Siberia was launched, it immediately increased in wallets ..
                And after the Turkish Stream, and at all - the zipper does not converge to fasten it ..
                I just get sick of you ..))

                Figuey elsewhere, eh! Honestly, I don't even want to debate. And your country is not your own, and your army is not your army. All across ... correct? Or already from there?
            2. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 21 July 2020 11: 47 New
              +3
              Quote: Alexey RA
              But, compared to the holy 90s, now the oil and gas sector pays taxes.

              In the holy 90s, the price of oil hovered around 15-16 per barrel. And until 9.5 it sank. This is for brent, our Urals was a couple of bucks cheaper. So that's it. If now Urals falls to 15, the MET will become exactly zero. And all budget revenues from the oil industry will be reduced to VAT in fact. That, at a price of 1000 re per barrel, will give the budget about 600 billion rubles a year. And most likely only 1.5-2 times less, after new fields appear, where the production cost is much higher than 15. And the result will be 300-400. Simply put, nothing, like in the holy 90s.
              But the merit of our bureaucrats is that oil is now traded at 45 and not at 15, in principle, no. Rather the opposite. 45 and not 15 despite their efforts.
              By the way. The formula for calculating the severance tax is such that when prices for Urals are below 15, it is not the oil industry that will pay the state, but the state. lol And even in the holy 90s they did not think of this. yes
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 July 2020 11: 05 New
        -1
        Quote: Roman123567
        Is there really nothing more interesting and joyful in life?

        Take a bottle of burned vodka, go to a neighbor's garden and enjoy it with bliss, having a neighbor's cucumber. Eh, joy !!
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 21 July 2020 11: 37 New
          -1
          If you think about it .. drinking a bottle in the garden is still a much more sensible lesson than going crazy waiting for the last seam to be welded .. this is a complete clinic already .. Miller is less driven about this ..))

          Anyway .. there is that pipe, there is no that pipe - none of us here will get richer or poorer .. and the support group of fans will not affect the speed of construction in any way ..
          Okay, when people go crazy on football .. it's still a game .. But to suffer through some pipes ..))
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 July 2020 14: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Roman123567
            If you think about it ... drinking a bottle in the garden is still a much more efficient activity than going crazy waiting for the last seam to be welded ..

            Well, you agree, why think for someone and for someone's money. Better to do something pleasant and urgent.
    2. Asad
      Asad 21 July 2020 09: 28 New
      +4
      I think the last joint is not the end of the story. They will also interfere with exploitation!
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: ASAD
        I think the last joint is not the end of the story. They will also interfere with exploitation!

        How will the construction be completed, sanctions will be imposed on the pipe operator or on the buyers. In general, of course, this is a bit crazy, this is actually a casus belli-interference in the internal affairs of the state, so much our financial and political system is dependent on foreign countries
    3. BAI
      BAI 21 July 2020 21: 19 New
      0
      Well, when will they finally finish building it.

      There are 2 serious problems that are outside of politics - bird nesting and fish spawning. Ecology, however.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 July 2020 09: 22 New
    0
    I think the key word is next year. Time is given to complete the construction. This year they have elections. As always, a whistle with a budget until the end of February. Until March, will we finish building on our own? Although the Americans did not care about international law.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 21 July 2020 09: 25 New
      -3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I think the key word is next year. Time is given to complete the construction. This year they have elections. As always, a whistle with a budget until the end of February. Until March, will we finish building on our own? Although the Americans did not care about international law.

      What kind of your own? Have at least one seam welded after the first package of sanctions?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 21 July 2020 09: 41 New
        0
        And the confidence that they will cook is less and less. The gold touched by the hands of the Gazpromovskiye Antiimidas regularly turns into shards.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 July 2020 10: 01 New
        +3
        Until the end of August, cod spawns from them. Until the ban. Marina traffic will help you and you will not have to wait for news.
      3. sg7s
        sg7s 21 July 2020 11: 31 New
        0
        July-August - ban due to cod spawning. You can start in September, three months plus storms, a month and a half to debug and formalize the work of the ground reception area with the eugal by the Germans under sanctions (somehow you have to get out, but there are options) ... Another question is right now, this very moment, these sanctions already in the locomotive whistle, since we have nowhere to hurry at all, because. , even if we start up SP-2 TODAY, then - a) the total volume for the two joint ventures will be the same 55 billion cubic meters (as it is now for SP-1), because. according to EU rules, only 50% and SP-1 gives 55 now for opal and eugal, and eugal will go under SP-2. ; b) the Ukrainian beggars were paid for 65 billion cubic meters in this and for 45 billion in the next, therefore, since you pay in any way, you have to load (here hello to the Cossack and the hot novak) and, finally, - c) - gas now in Baumgarten 64 each, i.e. direct losses.
        We are waiting for the restoration of prices, we finish building where we can and cannot, we press on politics (here are the problems, there are only infantile children, there is no R.I., Vyakhirev on them) and we hope for our good old General Moroz. And about the failures of Gazprёm (Miller, something immediately disappeared, and before he was in every frame, in every monitor), incl. 4 billion losses for the first quarter (and a bunch of premiums to the top) are already tired of talking ...
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 21 July 2020 11: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: sg7s
          a) the total volume for the DVUM joint venture will be the same 55 billion cubic meters (as now for the joint venture-1), because. according to EU rules, only 50% and SP-1 d

          "On May 2020, 1, the Federal Grid Agency granted the Nord Stream gas pipeline [24] an exception to the main provisions of the EU Gas Directive" - ​​pipeline operator Nord Stream AG. New EU rules only for gas pipelines built after May 2020, 1, SP-1 for them, no matter how ... (2011 line - in November 2012, the second - in October 55), so so far when calculating 1 SP-38 + 2 SP -XNUMX
          1. sg7s
            sg7s 21 July 2020 11: 57 New
            -2
            this is a sea site. For this, it is also necessary to derive from the directive and OPAL, Poland does not give ...
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 21 July 2020 12: 05 New
              0
              Quote: sg7s
              from directive and OPAL

              SP-2 - they hurried there 28 billion ... so EUGAL without restrictions ...
              Quote: sg7s
              now for disgrace and eugal, and eugal will go under the SP-2

              you can change EUGAL for SP-1, and OPAL for SP-2, now gas from SP-1 goes through EUGAL
              1. sg7s
                sg7s 21 July 2020 16: 46 New
                -1
                if only to change, but how is it technically, is it possible ...
                1. Brturin
                  Brturin 21 July 2020 17: 13 New
                  +1
                  It was reported that in the first half of 2020 Nord Stream - 30,43 billion cubic meters of gas, Opal Opal (no one has lifted the restrictions so far), and the rest is Eugal ...
                  1. sg7s
                    sg7s 21 July 2020 17: 44 New
                    -3
                    it means they are loaded to capacity (last year - 59.4), but how can sp-2 work with opal ... I don’t understand, but you can’t declare the maximum not 55, but, say, 90, let it be half. Rough, of course, lie insolently, and what remains ... they don't stand on ceremony with us either
                    1. Brturin
                      Brturin 21 July 2020 20: 50 New
                      +1
                      to rub it will not work there is a platform of operators of GTS in Europe ENTSOG, why is it so rude, different options are being considered ... we will, look, and while we wait for August, there is a theory, but what is in practice ... hi
  7. Roman123567
    Roman123567 21 July 2020 09: 23 New
    -4
    Why not immediately impose sanctions on Germany as a gas buyer ??
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 21 July 2020 09: 42 New
      +2
      How? It would be interesting to hear.
  8. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 21 July 2020 09: 29 New
    -3
    Our government will now respond adequately, chew snot and that's it. And Gazprom, which suffers losses, is waiting for compensation in the form of a 3% rise in gas prices for the population, since August it is still a national property, otherwise it is impossible.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 22 July 2020 19: 59 New
      0
      Quote: yuliatreb
      Our government will now respond adequately, chew snot and that's it.

      and where does "our government"? They have long been unable to do anything to Russia. EU companies fall under the sanctions. the more the US imposes sanctions against the Europeans, the more actively the EU will get rid of American dependence. the more American sanctions against the EU there is better than Russia wink
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  10. Runoway
    Runoway 21 July 2020 09: 32 New
    +5
    Withdraw sanctions against KFC, MacDonald, BK, Coca-Cola Company, apple. No way ???? Well, yes, these are state-forming enterprises with state support from covi19.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 21 July 2020 09: 41 New
      -11
      it is necessary to raise gas prices within the Russian Federation not by 3% but by 30%, this will be a move!
    2. BAI
      BAI 21 July 2020 21: 22 New
      -1
      And I am against sanctions against KFC. I like his products much more than gas. The rest - whatever you like.
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 09: 40 New
    +2
    The House of Representatives of the US Congress passed a vote on toughening sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 and Turkish Stream gas pipelines. The bill was approved unanimously.

    What an enviable unanimity ... Maybe it's time for our State Duma to impose sanctions on the presence of the US military in foreign countries without the grounds and permission of the governments of these countries?
    The position of Russia on permission of the activities of American companies and legal entities in the field of extraction of raw materials in Russia is also interesting - how long?
    It is clear without explanation why this is happening constantly and at an increasing pace. Objections from the Russian side are childish. We have become a country where the authorities follow the recommendations of citizens who have assets and real estate abroad.
    We are simply hostages of the situation and extras of events, capable of expressing only our "par depit", which is an absolutely assumed reaction.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 21 July 2020 10: 00 New
      +1
      Maybe it's time for our State Duma to impose sanctions on the presence of the US military in foreign countries without justification and permission from the governments of these countries?

      And who is interested in our opinion ?? This is about how I will impose sanctions on you ..))
      Only sanctions are not just a word .. it is, first of all, an instrument !!
      And we do not have any tools to influence American policy ..
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 11: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Roman123567
        And we do not have any tools to influence American policy ..

        “There are no tools” and “don't want to use” are different concepts. Not so independent gentlemen in the United States. They behave in an arrogant manner only because Russia allows American warships to enter the Black Sea ... Or to show some miracles on turns in the Arctic Ocean basin ... Or to block the path of Russian soldiers on the territory of a sovereign state ... Or declare boycotts and isolation on their own behalf to countries in the other hemisphere ...
        There are many ways to kick the American bottom, pinch a curious nose and get rid, for example, of the American environment (located along the Russian borders) of laboratories of unknown purpose ... Russia is not obliged to treat with a downward attitude to a direct potential threat to its sovereignty. If the DPRK was able to, if Iran withstood, if Venezuela, Vietnam, Korea and other countries weaker in the field of armament did not give up, then God himself ordered Russia to act more boldly and decisively ... As for someone's assets and real estate, then These are their problems. Nobody forced them to invest the stolen goods in someone else's economy. On their own land (Russian) problems are above the roof.
        1. dauria
          dauria 21 July 2020 12: 34 New
          +3
          .And as for someone's assets and real estate, these are their problems.

          Not just "someone else's". These people hold power in Russia. Their problems, their villas and yachts in Italy, willy-nilly become the problems of Russians. Well, they and their children do not want to live in Tambov. At least crack. So they wag their tails, and with malice, but obediently, they look at how partners chop off pieces of their pie. And the option with a whole pie in Tambov does not suit them.
    2. Semenov
      Semenov 21 July 2020 11: 08 New
      0
      These enterprises bring profit to the budget with taxes, jobs and other things. The builders of the AGPZ are generally exempted from taxes, but the neighboring town has begun to be built and rebuilt, a new hospital has appeared, the service sector has grown sharply, new shops have opened, the locals have a prospect!
  12. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 July 2020 09: 41 New
    +3
    Unanimity on this issue suggests that in the foreseeable future, one should not expect a decrease in the degree of anti-Russian policy.
    It means that there should be no alternative to spit on them.
  13. Xenofont
    Xenofont 21 July 2020 09: 42 New
    -1
    What, after all, a tragicomic story of unrequited love. They give us gift after gift, but we are silent and smile modestly.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 21 July 2020 09: 45 New
    0
    "Circus" is still the same, let's see how many clowns will be in it now?
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 July 2020 09: 46 New
    -1
    We were long and hard to prove that the Soviet government was to blame for everything. So what now? As against the Soviet Union, so now the Iron Curtain is again being built against Russia.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 July 2020 09: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      so now the iron curtain is again being built against Russia.

      Only behind the curtain is capitalism .. on both sides ..
  16. Irek
    Irek 21 July 2020 10: 00 New
    -1
    In return, we need to start helping blacks in their struggle for equal rights with whites.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 21 July 2020 10: 02 New
      +3
      Yeah .. get into the two fighting .. then to remain extreme and guilty for them ..))
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 21 July 2020 12: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Irek
      In return, we must start

      Maybe it's better to let them figure it out themselves, but not to allow the arms embargo on Iran to be extended ...
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 21 July 2020 20: 22 New
      -1
      They will figure it out themselves, the real problems are just flowers.
  17. Gorlovchanin
    Gorlovchanin 21 July 2020 10: 07 New
    -1
    But did not try to send ??? Well, mattress in the sense or ...
  18. Karaul73
    Karaul73 21 July 2020 10: 10 New
    -2
    Quote: Nasr
    As far as is known, neither Fortuna nor Akademik Chersky has yet begun to resume the construction of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.


    The completion of the gas pipeline will begin after the deadline for appealing the renewed permit of Denmark - August 3.

    Once the updated and strengthened sanctions come into effect, they may not start. Europe can set its tails up and revoke previously issued permits.
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 21 July 2020 10: 23 New
    -3
    Miller, as always, is covered in liquid. The only option is to sink the American gas carriers with an "unknown" submarine. You sanction us, we torpedo you ...
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 21 July 2020 10: 28 New
    +1
    Capitalism in all its glory, does not even smell of competition! Now Israel will pull a gas pipeline to Europe, but I think there will be no problems for it
  21. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 21 July 2020 10: 42 New
    +1
    Will the third wave of sanctions target gas buyers?
  22. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2020 10: 51 New
    0
    They would have to deal with INTERNAL affairs, where everything bursts, sparks, hurts, burns and staggers, and they continue to threaten the whole world.

    As for SP-2, we are waiting for the beginning of August and the resumption of pipe-laying!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 21 July 2020 20: 21 New
      -1
      What do you personally expect from these pipelines, Vladimir Mashkov?
  23. Klingon
    Klingon 21 July 2020 11: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Runoway
    Withdraw sanctions against KFC, MacDonald, BK, Coca-Cola Company, apple. No way ???? Well, yes, these are state-forming enterprises with state support from covi19.

    when a certain number of years ago a baida with sanctions was just beginning, they shouted at us, now we will introduce retaliatory sanctions, ban McDonald's and coca-cola in Russia, and so on. And that McDuck was banned? We are not capable of anything, or rather our rulers and the Oligators. If they rock the boat, the striped ones will immediately take away the property and other foreign plots. Nooo ... except for Zakharova's scribbles on Facebook and indistinct expressions of concerns, we are not capable of anything, we have become like a cool fool who is kicked by other classmates at every opportunity
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 21 July 2020 20: 19 New
      0
      Well, they would kick these, so they end up robbing us, through these "fools".
  24. Russobel
    Russobel 21 July 2020 11: 08 New
    0
    As far as is known, neither Fortuna nor Akademik Chersky has yet begun to resume the construction of a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea.

    And what are we standing for?
    Waiting for anybody?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 11: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Russobel
      And what are we standing for?
      Waiting for anybody?

      The completion of the gas pipeline will begin after the deadline for appealing the renewed permit of Denmark - August 3.
  25. Semenov
    Semenov 21 July 2020 11: 18 New
    -1
    We will survive. The competitiveness of European goods will decrease, the cost of European living will rise, and we might even think about gasification of our country.
  26. Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov 21 July 2020 12: 17 New
    0
    And why are our patriots not lowering the dollar below the ruble?
  27. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 21 July 2020 12: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Nasr
    Well, yes, some have annexed Siberia, while others are receiving dividends!

    So who's stopping you? Come to me, to Siberia, for dividends!
  28. NordUral
    NordUral 21 July 2020 20: 17 New
    -1
    I am personally against the export of energy resources in the interests of the oligarchy. But the mattresses are just bandits from the high road.
  29. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2020 20: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: NordUral
    What do you personally expect from these pipelines, Vladimir Mashkov?

    For me personally, from the end of SP-2 - nothing. And for Russia - the successful completion of construction, strengthening of its positions and authority in the world. Or are you against?
    1. BAI
      BAI 21 July 2020 21: 13 New
      0
      For me personally, from the end of SP-2 - nothing.
      For you personally, from the failure of the project - an increase in gas prices. Further - according to the domino effect.
  30. BAI
    BAI 21 July 2020 21: 11 New
    0
    The bill provides for sanctions against foreign citizens whose actions are related to the sale, lease or provision of vessels used for pipe-laying.

    Samara public utilities who own these ships are horrified.
  31. Every
    Every 22 July 2020 11: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir16
    I would have a couple of cubes of gas in my house.
    Yes, only for the connection of gas they asked 350 thousand. Given that the pipe goes along the edge of the site.

    Gazprom produces and supplies gas. Pipes are laid to consumers by regional operators; they are available in every constituent entity of the Russian Federation. They should be engaged in their connection.
    So all questions about the cost of connection - to the leadership of your region.
    Some time ago, the regional government launched a full gasification program. The pipes were even extended to the farms where 7-10 people lived. There are also those where only 1 (one) person lives.
    I repeat, laying pipes and connecting is the task of regional operators.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 22 July 2020 20: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Every
      Gazprom produces and supplies gas. Pipes are laid to consumers by regional operators; they are available in every constituent entity of the Russian Federation. They should be engaged in their connection.

      unfortunately no one is interested in these obvious things request those to whom you are trying to explain something came here to talk about how Putin severely offended them. personally! laughing
      I'm already tired of explaining something to them. useless. negative but thank you for reminding you of the obvious hi
      1. Every
        Every 22 July 2020 22: 18 New
        +1
        I myself am amazed at what is happening. Either a general dullness, or an unwillingness to think and analyze. You can only hear - Putin is to blame. And what is to blame for what he did or did not do they are not interested.
        Although the bulk of the problems come from the regional authorities.
        The latest amendments to the Constitution are aimed precisely at overcoming this problem. Regional officials were squashed. But they do not want to see this point-blank.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 23 July 2020 01: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Every
          Either a general dullness, or an unwillingness to think and analyze.

          harmonious combination of the first and second soldier
          specificity of the site audience. a number of the most active commentators came here not for discussion, but in order to "waggle red!" request
          Quote: Every
          The latest amendments to the Constitution are aimed precisely at overcoming this problem. Regional officials were squashed. But they do not want to see this point-blank.

          opposite! they see it perfectly, but from their point of view, this is another crime of the authorities against the freedoms of the people bully democracy is panimash, and free elections are in danger! wassat
          Have you looked at the articles on rescuing Furgal? it's still brighter there wink there, even the residents of Khabarovsk are already saying that this is nonsense and protests are a farce played out by the press, but they need peas against the wall ..
          1. Every
            Every 23 July 2020 09: 55 New
            +1
            The custom-made nature of the protests in Khabarovsk is simply striking, I do not understand how you can not see it.
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 23 July 2020 14: 02 New
              +1
              but like this! laughing just ignore and keep screaming about massive (!!!) protests. the residents of Khabarovsk write to them that they live next to the lyceum where they are allegedly protesting, they write that the whole protest is 10 schoolchildren with a poster who hang out at the car with a muzzle in the central square, write that the protesters are paid 1500 rubles for going to the action, so what? complete ignore and the continuation of posts that Putin lost Khabarovsk and that he will not accept the governor from Moscow .. some gossip almost about the beginning of the revolution bully
              people are flint! laughing although there is another saying .. "piss in the eyes all the dew of God" bully
  32. venaly
    venaly 23 July 2020 04: 37 New
    0
    Gazprom would have to move, there is no news about what is now at the SP-2? Will wait until the stormy season and again "struggle with difficulties" I think hitting Gazprom has intensified and reached the limit after a series of lost cases. Gazprom loses everything it can. What kind of documents and contracts do Gazprom's lawyers draw up? Raises certain doubts.
    1. Every
      Every 23 July 2020 09: 57 New
      0
      Quote: venal
      Gazprom would have to move, there is no news about what is now at the SP-2?

      There are problems with insurance. It is mandatory for work, and European insurance companies are afraid to insure pipelayers because of the threat of sanctions.
      This is a problem so far.
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 23 July 2020 14: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Every
        There are problems with insurance.

        this has already been decided by setting up a third party company. this, by the way, is the problem of the Europeans which they solved. now they are waiting for the end of spawning herring, no matter how funny it sounds laughing Denmark is showing off. are going to start on August 3rd.
        1. Every
          Every 24 July 2020 08: 38 New
          0
          So after all, Denmark also made concessions, they were allowed to use the anchor "Fortune"
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 24 July 2020 10: 57 New
            +1
            Well, we are waiting until August 3 and should start. but there Pompeo lathered himself in the tour. will try very hard to screw up ..