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Sergey Furgal lost his post as governor of the Khabarovsk Territory

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Sergey Furgal lost his post as governor of the Khabarovsk Territory

The governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, Sergei Furgal, who is under investigation, has lost his post. The decree on the resignation of Furgal was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was reported by the Kremlin press service.


According to the document, the reason for Furgal's resignation was "loss of confidence." At the same time, by the same decree, Putin appointed the Acting Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, State Duma deputy from the Liberal Democratic Party Mikhail Degtyarev, who will lead the region until the new elections for the head of the region are scheduled ahead of schedule in September 2021.

To dismiss Sergey Ivanovich Furgal from the post of governor of the Khabarovsk Territory in connection with the loss of confidence of the President of the Russian Federation. To appoint Mikhail Vladimirovich Degtyarev as an interim Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory until the person elected as the Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory takes office

- the document says.

Before the appointment of Degtyarev to the post of head of the Khabarovsk Territory, Putin invited him to head the region, to which Degtyarev gave his consent.

The LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky reacted to the appointment of Degtyarev as Acting Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory. He thanked Putin "for leaving the region behind the party," and said that the Liberal Democratic Party will continue to seek the removal of charges against Furgal.

We are grateful to the President for the appointment of Mikhail Degtyarev, a deputy from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, as Acting Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory. We expected to keep three regions for ourselves. Moreover, Khabarovsk residents themselves asked for this, so that the new head of the region was not a Muscovite, not a native of United Russia, but a representative of the Liberal Democratic Party

- said Zhirinovsky, adding that Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma, "90% of which are representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party."
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  1. Guba
    Guba 20 July 2020 17: 04 New
    -13 qualifying.
    Now, if only the person on duty on the camera shines for him .. laughing
    Zhirinovsky calmed down the main thing.
    1. svp67
      svp67 20 July 2020 17: 07 New
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: Guba
      Now, if only the person on duty on the camera shines for him ..

      As far as I understand, the "main question" put forward to Furgal has already been resolved, so I am sure that he will get off with a minimum period ...
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 20 July 2020 17: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: svp67

        As far as I understand, the "main question" put forward to Furgal has already been resolved, so I am sure that he will get off with a minimum period ...

        Has he already given a share in the business?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 20 July 2020 17: 18 New
          10
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Quote: svp67

          As far as I understand, the "main question" put forward to Furgal has already been resolved, so I am sure that he will get off with a minimum period ...

          Has he already given a share in the business?

          Not yet, but wring out, no doubt.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 20 July 2020 18: 01 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Not yet, but wring out, no doubt.

            Colleague, in this case it is not the main thing, but the main thing is that he was deprived of his post of governor!
            And what is characteristic, the people of Furgal showed confidence, and Putin lost it at Furgal.
            That is, the chapter of the constitution that the people is the supreme power is not actually a decree for the president.
            We no longer have a nuda constitution, but we have a bondage.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 18: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez

              And what is characteristic, the people of Furgal showed confidence, and Putin lost it at Furgal.

              And the people are already convinced that Furgal did not commit the crimes of which he is accused? And the president, I believe, got acquainted with the case file, as a result of which he lost confidence in the person involved. Everything is logical. The final point in the case will be the court.
              Or should the president not trust investigators in the case?
              You are a strange nation. As soon as Furgal threw a little candy at you, in the form of quite populist acts, you immediately tear the ass for him. And they are ready to blame the president for all mortal sins. He cut his wages, is he poorer? Become more modest?
              1. spirit
                spirit 20 July 2020 18: 23 New
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                Amazing !! and how this investigative committee and the FSB didn’t notice anything after him while he was sitting in the State Duma laughing a person has a security tolerance and no one has seen anything for 10 years) and here the rating has become higher than zero and lo and behold !!!! have seen !!!! Go to Khabarovsk and tell your stories there how and where to go! good luck hi
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 18: 48 New
                  -6
                  Quote: spirit
                  It's amazing !! and how this investigative committee and the FSB did not notice anything behind him while he was sitting in the State Duma laughing man has

                  Do you know the saying - hand washes your hand? Something went wrong with Furgal, and some hand stopped "washing" and a case that seemed almost forgotten came up.
                  You, tearing up the ass for Furgala, are not tearing for your choice, but, in fact, for impunity for those in power. They say - so what, that he is a killer, the main thing is that he gave us candy. Although very small.
                  Tear further. He deceived you, fans of Furgala, in the elections, did not tell you the truth about himself, and you forgive him for that.
                  Well, what about the new acting. governor. As long as the governors are appointed on the basis of party affiliation and not on the basis of business qualities, it will be very bad for all of us.
                  1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 21 July 2020 13: 10 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Well, what about the new acting. governor. As long as the governors are appointed on the basis of party affiliation and not on the basis of business qualities, it will be very bad for all of us.

                    It is also bad when one party (any) can solve management issues without coordination with others
                    ... Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma, "90% of which are representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party."
                    1. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 13: 30 New
                      +2
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

                      It is also bad when one party (any) can solve management issues without coordination with others

                      You can agree on everything, the main thing is to interest the coordinators in the agreement. laughing
                      I will repeat myself - the criterion for the appointment should not be affiliation to one or another party, but the business and MORAL qualities of the applicant, his experience in managing large teams.
                2. Oden280
                  Oden280 20 July 2020 18: 49 New
                  -1
                  When a person sits in the State Duma, he has parliamentary immunity. And any operational and investigative actions are prohibited against him.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 20 July 2020 19: 06 New
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                    Quote: Oden280
                    When a person sits in the State Duma, he has parliamentary immunity. And any operational and investigative actions are prohibited against him.

                    In this case, deputies' immunity is removed, by voting, and Maskishaw immediately enters - there was a precedent. ...
                    1. Oden280
                      Oden280 23 July 2020 05: 54 New
                      0
                      Filmed only in case of arrest at the crime scene. In the case of Furgal, no one would have lifted his immunity for operational measures.

                      Federal Law of 08.05.1994 N 3-FZ (as amended on 24.04.2020) "On the status of a member of the Federation Council and the status of a deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation"
                      "" Article 19. Immunity of a member of the Federation Council, a deputy of the State Duma
                  2. BAI
                    BAI 20 July 2020 20: 11 New
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                    And against him any operational and investigative actions are prohibited

                    Yeah, and therefore the senator (a certain Arashukov) is arrested right in the conference room.
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 21 July 2020 05: 20 New
                      -1
                      Furgal made a MAJOR and PUBLIC mistake - he sent his family for permanent residence abroad, thereby recognizing ALL the skeletons that hang on him, as well as those (even just fictional ones) to which he has nothing to do and which the UK can now with good reason hang on it.
                      By the Furgala case, Putin shows the "iliteks of the 90s" with ANY DEGREE of criminality the only way to their freedom - to flee abroad and do it quickly and without oppressing himself with worries about how to keep the stolen ...
                      NO !!!
                      Because a process has begun, for which there is no legal justification, but there is a more important justification under the general name "human justice".
                      Now Putin only has to say that Russia is letting out EVERYONE who has the "smell of the 90s" in their closet, but this emigration does not allow taking with them ALL PROPERTY RIGHTS located on Russian territory, regardless of the jurisdiction in which this the property is registered.
                      If Putin does this, then he can also add that Russia will not apply for funds PREVIOUSLY received from the exploitation of property located in Russia.
                      It goes without saying that the emigrant for these reasons is completely amazed at ALL rights in force on the territory of Russia. Other owners of property located within the borders of Russian jurisdiction may pointlessly prove the solidity of their property rights, which appeared as a result of the rebellion and Yeltsin's seizure of power, i.e. for the period from 1990 to 2010.
                      Long live the new stage in the life of state capitalism in Russia !!! laughing yes good
                    2. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 13: 31 New
                      +1
                      Quote: BAI

                      Yeah, and therefore the senator (a certain Arashukov) is arrested right in the conference room.

                      Something about him neither rumor nor spirit. Who knows what, do not share the info?
                    3. Oden280
                      Oden280 23 July 2020 05: 57 New
                      0
                      Immunity was removed from him at the request of the Prosecutor General's Office
                3. user1212
                  user1212 21 July 2020 08: 29 New
                  +3
                  Quote: spirit
                  It's amazing !! and how this investigative committee and the FSB did not notice anything about him while he was in the State Duma, a person has a security clearance and no one has seen anything for 10 years)

                  For Vlasov, the Communist Party also did not notice anything special until he was declared a traitor ... how is that? Where was the party looking? wassat
                  1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 21 July 2020 16: 40 New
                    -1
                    Quote: user1212
                    For Vlasov, the Communist Party also did not notice anything special until he was declared a traitor ... how is that? Where was the party looking?

                    A party (any) does not want and cannot find fault with its members if there is no competing force / party close to it in terms of influence. Here at each other they will notice a speck of dust in the eye and take advantage of it. Not immediately, but after waiting for the right moment.
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 20 July 2020 18: 43 New
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                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                You are a strange people. As soon as Furgal threw a little candy to you, in the form of quite populist acts, you immediately vomit his ass for him. And we are ready to accuse the president of all mortal sins.

                But look what a thing, people marry this very president either on a lasso, or for money, or for both together. But for Furgal they married independently and disinterestedly.
                The second moment, against the background of other edrosov, Furgal really looked preferable.
                And most importantly, why the hell are we discussing the actions of the Khabarovsk citizens, who only defend their CIVIL RIGHTS and this is worthy of all respect, without any reason or political bias.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 19: 02 New
                  -8
                  Quote: Stroporez

                  But look what a thing, people marry this very president either on a lasso, or for money, or for both together.

                  Did you go on a lasso or for money? Personally, I walked without that and without the other, and I did not see anyone on the lasso brought to the polling station.
                  Why for him? Yes, because nobody was offered worthy. They undoubtedly exist, but I did not observe them on the lists of candidates.
                  Quote: Stroporez

                  The second moment, against the background of other edrosov, Furgal really looked preferable.

                  Perhaps, but this does not mean that he did not commit crimes.
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  just defend their CIVIL RIGHTS

                  They defend not their "civil rights", but their erroneous opinion.
                  I repeat once again - did they study the case materials? Did they talk to the relatives of those whom Furgal might have killed? Or did they talk to other victims of Furgal's actions?
                  They protect their civil rights, and the rights of victims of the Furgal do not need to be protected?
                  1. basmach
                    basmach 21 July 2020 02: 38 New
                    +3
                    That is, you are right, but 50 thousand are not. And your opinion is correct, but theirs are wrong. Maybe you first get to the doctor. And then express your "correct opinion.
                    1. user1212
                      user1212 21 July 2020 04: 15 New
                      +1
                      Quote: basmach
                      That is, you are right, but 50 thousand are not.

                      millions of flies can't be wrong? laughing
                      Quote: basmach
                      And your opinion is correct - and theirs is wrong

                      Maybe. There are many cases in history when one person was right, but the "world community" was not. Besides, where did you get the idea that this is only his opinion? And who asked the opinion of 600 thousand people, residents of Khabarovsk, who did not come to the rally?
                      By the way, where are 50 thousand people here?
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 21 July 2020 05: 26 New
                        +5
                        Quote: user1212
                        And who asked the opinion of 600 thousand people, residents of Khabarovsk, who did not come to the rally?

                        exactly the same on the question
                        and who asked the opinion of half of the Russians who did not come to the elections or referendum?
                      2. user1212
                        user1212 21 July 2020 05: 34 New
                        +3
                        Quote: atalef
                        exactly the same on the question
                        and who asked the opinion of half of the Russians who did not come to the elections or referendum?

                        Similarly to the question
                        Bibi with his likud got fewer votes than did not come to the polls :)
                      3. Dante Alighieri
                        Dante Alighieri 21 July 2020 10: 10 New
                        +1
                        And who asked the opinion of 600 thousand people, residents of Khabarovsk, who did not come to the rally?

                        And the opinion of 600 thousand people, residents of Khabarovsk, who did not come to the rally, does not interest anyone, because they are passive and apolitical, and therefore obey any decision that is developed by those who have political activity, they realize themselves as a subject of politics, as a political actor, and not as a weak-willed object subject to the will of others. Submit to those who take to the streets to broadcast their position to others. Exactly in the same way as the entire Union silently and practically meekly obeyed the decisions that were made by Yeltsin and his supporters on the Arbat.
                        By the way, where are 50 thousand people here?

                        And no matter how many of them there will be, what is important is that they have the desire to impose their will. Learn history. Nobody considered the Bolsheviks as a serious force in 1917 either, but they took and clearly demonstrated to their opponents all the inconsistency of the now widespread misconception about the prevalence of qualitative indicators over quantitative ones. In addition, among the 600 thousand you mentioned, a significant part falls either on various undergrowths and babies, or on very old people. It is simply ridiculous to consider both those and others even as a political factor. Especially when on the opposite side of the scale are sexually mature and active individuals who are aware of their community and their immediate interests
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 21 July 2020 17: 02 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Dante
                        Submit to those who take to the streets to broadcast their position to others.

                        Furgal under investigation and removed from office. these 2000-3000 hike on which the Furgala organized crime group found 1500r each on the nose, do not decide anything and make an impression only on the most believers. request
                        Quote: Dante
                        Nobody considered the Bolsheviks as a serious force in 1917 either, but they took and clearly demonstrated to their opponents all the inconsistency of the now widespread misconception about the prevalence of qualitative indicators over quantitative ones.

                        the Bolsheviks had an economic program that was understandable to the overwhelming majority of the population and was in demand; what do modern communists and protestors have? what are the protests in Khabarovsk for? in order to save the leader of the organized crime group and the organizer of contract killings from prison? these are you going to decide to sway? lol
                        Quote: Dante
                        In addition, among the 600 thousand you mentioned, a significant part falls either on various undergrowths and babies, or on very old people. It is simply ridiculous to consider both those and others even as a political factor. Especially when on the opposite side of the scale are sexually mature and active individuals who are aware of their community and their immediate interests

                        enchanting! good are they shkolota and students conscious? belay and with whom the community is aware? from the Furgalov organized criminal group?
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 21 July 2020 15: 23 New
                    +2
                    Which side to you?
                2. basmach
                  basmach 21 July 2020 09: 54 New
                  +1
                  And the people are not flies. You mutter, but don't talk. And who said that the other 600 thousand are against. Did they go to the rally.
              3. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 09: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: basmach
                That is, you are right, but 50 thousand are not.

                I am not claiming that I am right. I argue that the crowd has no right to decide legal issues. The question of guilt or innocence should be decided by the court, and not by the 50 thousand allegedly right. How will you feel if Furgal turns out to be really guilty? Or don't you care, the main thing is that he built 150 km. expensive, so what?
                1. basmach
                  basmach 21 July 2020 10: 04 New
                  0
                  I already wrote that, in accordance with the new amendments to the criminal law, if a person makes a deal, he gets the minimum. And his testimony against someone can be used as proven in another court. And this opens up tremendous opportunities. You make a deal with the investigation, and give the necessary testimony to the right person. Are you sure he is guilty. But how then was he checked that he was a deputy of the State Duma as many as three convocations. And a candidate for governor. And I will feel fine, because so far no evidence of his guilt has been presented. NO. A person cannot be found guilty except by a court decision. This time.
                  But there is another example Governor of the Irkutsk region. Levchenko. Under the threat of criminal prosecution, he was forced to leave himself. He left, and there was no case, he would have stayed, they would have started. And so that he could not run again, the Duma of the Irkutsk region. announced the new elections of the governor early, which is contrary to the law.
                2. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 10: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: basmach
                  ... Are you sure he is guilty.

                  No.
                  Quote: basmach
                  for so far no evidence of his guilt has been presented. NO.

                  So the investigation is not over yet. Or should the investigative team give you briefings every day?
                  But you are hinting that since the FSB has not presented anything so far, it means that the case is ordered, that it undermines the authority of EdRa by his concern for the inhabitants of the Khabarovsk region. and thereby harms the central government.
        2. Romey
          Romey 20 July 2020 19: 13 New
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          Duc has already been proposed to the unified race gentlemen to withdraw their 76% of the deep people in Khabarovsk. However, they don't want to ... Or can't they?
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        4. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 21 July 2020 03: 24 New
          -1
          I'm reading your verses and I can't understand - you are normal or completely beaten off with a hammer and sickle ... You, in the name of "botsunism" for any villain, subscribe? For the commies, nothing changes - instead of figuring out how to squeeze power in the mind, economically, you have it all comes down to grabbing a saber and bulging your eyes, running to "arrange revolutions." This is pure idiocy. Africa.
          1. basmach
            basmach 21 July 2020 10: 06 New
            +1
            Rudeness is the first sign of limitation. And judging by the comment, you can’t say anything clever, and only rudeness remains.
        5. Serg65
          Serg65 21 July 2020 09: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: Stroporez
          for Furgala they left independently and unselfishly

          laughing It's funny ... how a communist is tearing a shirt on his chest for a bourgeois who has a million rubles a day, only as a percentage of the annual income on Amurstal assets ... a million rubles a day, Valera ... and where is yours communist conscience ???? wink
          1. basmach
            basmach 21 July 2020 10: 09 New
            0
            The shirt is not torn for the bourgeois. She is being torn because of the lawlessness. Will Levchenko's example work? Which was pressed by the power and under the threat of landing had to leave. And as he left, then the case was gone.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 21 July 2020 11: 38 New
              +6
              Quote: basmach
              Will Levchenko's example work?

              A very good example !!!
              Quote: basmach
              Which was pressed by the power and under the threat of landing had to leave.

              Those. comrade communist without a twinge of conscience robbed the affected countrymen and he was pressed by the authorities ??? I have only one question for the authorities, Mr. President, why is Levchenko free ??? What is he special? Or did Zyuganov swear by his mother for him? What kind of practice is this? The Edrosovskys are imprisoned, so it should be, the thief must be in prison, but the opposition turns out to be and cannot be touched with a finger ... the people will be offended!
              Quote: basmach
              as he left, then the case was gone

              What's up? OOO "Zvezda" went bankrupt? CJSC "Stalkonstruktsiya" became unprofitable? LLC "Alex" has lost the state order for the construction of houses for victims of the flood? For a three-story "shed" on the shore of Lake Baikal demanded to pay tax?
      2. 210ox
        210ox 20 July 2020 18: 58 New
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        As far as I know, he not only cut his salary. That is why the other governors did not. Probably poorer and decided to raise their standard of living. Of course not, if he committed a crime, then he must answer. And the decision of the president is logical - the region should not remain without control and appointed an AIM from the same party. Let him act and prove by deeds.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 19: 10 New
          -3
          Quote: 210ox
          As far as I know, he not only cut his salary.

          So I say - pure populism. To raise the rating of the Liberal Democratic Party. He did not do anything significant, except for baby food in schools.
          All of its popularity is based on these little sweets.
          1. SVD68
            SVD68 20 July 2020 19: 51 New
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            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            So I say - pure populism

            Let's face it, this is not pure populism. It's like giving out masks to people for free in an epidemic, instead of selling them at exorbitant prices. This is "inhuman populism" (a certain Makarov).
          2. Dionis2019
            Dionis2019 21 July 2020 05: 15 New
            +5
            I would have come, lived in the hub region, and then judged his affairs, smart guy!
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 09: 09 New
              -1
              Quote: Dionis2019
              I would have come, lived in the hub region, and then judged his affairs, smart guy!

              Are you sure that a simple pensioner is better off here?
        2. BAI
          BAI 20 July 2020 20: 15 New
          +3
          For example, the Ulyanovsk governor cut his salary. The head of the Primorsky Territory, too.
          1. your1970
            your1970 20 July 2020 21: 54 New
            +5
            Quote: BAI
            For example, the Ulyanovsk governor cut his salary. The head of the Primorsky Territory, too.
            -you wow !!! these are incorrect examples lol !!! Identity Morozov - or Furgal ...
          2. Far East
            Far East 21 July 2020 08: 46 New
            +2
            Well, to be more precise. The Governor of Primorye raised his salary by 200 thousand rubles a month .. who is this, interesting! enlighten.
        3. Hey
          Hey 20 July 2020 20: 40 New
          +4
          appointed an interim organization from the same party.

          Did people vote for the party or for a specific person?
          How not to twist any appointment by Putin, for the Khabarovsk citizens will be a man of Moscow, with the ensuing consequences.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 20 July 2020 20: 44 New
            +3
            I think different people have different motivations. Someone for a person, someone for a representative of the Liberal Democratic Party. It's no secret that support for this party in the Far East has always been higher than the average Russian
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 20 July 2020 22: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: MUD
            Did people vote for the party or for a specific person?

            People voted against the representative of Edra - Furgal, Ivanov, Rosenbaum, no difference. The main motive was that everyone voted unanimously against the representative of United Russia. I do not exclude the fact that Furgal may actually be involved in the cases of long-past cases, but the fact is that these cases have no statute of limitations. By the way, we must admit that the government did not break the "oak on the knee" and put an interim pretzel from the party "Thinking about the people for 365 days," but quite competently and far-sightedly left the governor's post for a representative of the same party, from which Furgal walked, which once again confirms that the Center is not ready to exchange the post of governor, for trust in the Center, due to the fact that it is sure that the dismissed official will fly.
          3. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 21 July 2020 03: 40 New
            +2
            Until Moscow, the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation will not provide potential governors with a command that will squeeze the local Beaumond like lice, nothing good will come of it. The locals have stolen and will continue to steal, with the coffin of the reputation of the nominated parties .... well, it is also worth choosing candidates carefully.
            The Liberal Democratic Party was lucky here that they found common ground with the local "godfather". Immediately, money "for meals" appeared, although I am sure that this is a handout.
            All you need is to find common ground / take the local community by the balls and control their work ... Damn, this is taught in the 2nd year in the subject of "management." - to find an "informal leader" and start working with him. I am surprised by the unprofessionalism of our parties ...
        4. opuonmed
          opuonmed 20 July 2020 22: 09 New
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          As far as I know, he not only cut his salary. That is why the other governors did not. Probably poorer and decided to raise their standard of living. Of course not, if he committed a crime, then he must answer. And the decision of the president is logical - the region should not remain without control and appointed an AIM from the same party. Let him act and prove by deeds.

          you cut your head where does the cut sn ??????? a man is the leader of an organized crime group and it should be scary that such a person penetrated the power of the lads, then go and other brothers on business are sitting in his office
          1. Kisa
            Kisa 20 July 2020 22: 21 New
            +1
            funny to listen to you - Soloviev yesterday insisted on this exactly - well, Khabarovsk residents do not know what they are doing)))
            ... in connection with the loss of trust .... I like the wording - the loss of trust to whom the Immortal chtol ??? in devotion? in loyalty ??
        5. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 21 July 2020 15: 26 New
          +1
          As far as I know, he not only cut his salary. That is why the other governors did not.

          Both the deputies and your idol Zyuganov. Why didn't the entire Communist Party faction refuse? He receives salary and uses service housing. Is he for the people?
          I would also give up a few hundred thousand if I had billions in my accounts, acquired by criminal means, including murders.
      3. businessv
        businessv 20 July 2020 19: 18 New
        15
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        As soon as Furgal threw a little candy at you, in the form of quite populist acts, you immediately tear the ass for him.

        If all the governors gave us a "little candy" similar to those of Furgalov, it would be easier for us and our children to live. Many experts now call populist decisions the direct and honest fulfillment of their duties by officials, but this is not very popular with the authorities because then they do not look very convincing, to put it mildly. It is because of this that people like Furgal and Levchenko are removed from their posts, and instead of them people like Ovsyannikov, who is not just zero, but zero with a minus!
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 20: 15 New
          0
          Quote: businessv
          ... Many experts now call the direct and honest fulfillment of their duties by officials populist decisions, but this is not very popular with the authorities because then they do not look very convincing, to put it mildly.

          Something I got confused in your logic. LDPR in the Duma, the Duma is one of the branches of power, Furgal is a representative of power. And how his actions to improve life in the Khabarovsk region. harm the central government? At the same time, the central government dismisses other governors from their posts, as they did not ensure the fulfillment of the tasks of improvement, but also jail those who were stealing. And then suddenly they take off for good achievements? You yourself figured out your logic?
          This is not why he is removed and brought to justice. There is such an expression among lawyers - according to newly discovered circumstances. It happens.
          1. businessv
            businessv 20 July 2020 22: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            And as his deeds to improve life in the Khabarovsk region. harm the central government?
            It's very simple, colleague! If the governor - the protege of Moscow did nothing, except for cutting all 5 years, and the local who replaced him in a couple of years laid 120 km of roads, changed the paid meals for children for free, etc., what do you think will be the attitude to the first?
            And then suddenly they shoot for good achievements? Have you figured out your logic yourself?
            This is not my logic, unfortunately! If anyone in our government has a business in the Irkutsk region, but the local governor stepped on his throat. What do you think will happen in this case? Or have you not heard that "There should not be a positive precedent for the leadership of regions that are not members of EdRo!" Where do you live in general, colleague, why are you asking such questions ?! smile
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 23: 13 New
              +4
              Quote: businessv
              It's very simple, colleague! If the governor is Moscow's protege

              So the governor from EDRO is Moscow's protege, and Furgal is not Moscow's protege? Was his candidacy offered to the Khabarovsk residents not from Moscow? Here Zhirik obviously tried, or is he also - Khabarovsk?
              Quote: businessv
              Paid meals for children for free, etc., what do you think will be the attitude to the first?

              Yes, it is clear that it is very good. But what does this have to do with the case?
              He was not arrested for that. that he paved the roads and gave children free meals in schools, and on suspicion of murders. Do you see the difference?
              It happens that a criminal offense is disclosed after 20 years.
              Quote: businessv
              "There should not be a positive precedent for the leadership of regions that are not members of EdRo!" Where do you live at all,

              I have never heard such nonsense. Who hammered it into your head?
              1. businessv
                businessv 21 July 2020 17: 26 New
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                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                I have never heard such nonsense. Who hammered it into your head?
                Be careful with expressions, Mr. Krasnoyarsk, you are not at a meeting of overgrown children! https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-50760663 you can find the line yourself. hi
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 19: 12 New
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                Quote: businessv
                you will find the line yourself.

                I read the entire article carefully. She is tendentious, and I am suspicious of such articles. You read in the article only what you wanted to read, not paying attention to what you did not like.
                I am sincerely sorry that Levchenko "left", but are you sure that with the same performance indicators United Russia would have stayed?
                In addition, I believe that it is impossible for a communist to occupy any government posts under a bourgeois dictatorship. If he is a real communist, and not a social democrat, he will not be able to “defend the honor of deceived girls in a brothel environment” and thus only undermine the authority of the Communist Party.
                Only in the Duma. Fight for the adoption of laws necessary for the people and oppose the adoption of laws in favor of the bourgeois.
              3. businessv
                businessv 23 July 2020 21: 28 New
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                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Only in the Duma. Fight for the adoption of laws necessary for the people and oppose the adoption of laws in favor of the bourgeois.

                In the Duma, not a single party in the minority is fighting, but agreeing because the Duma is given salary by the Presidential Administration. None of the deputies wants to lose 400 thousand a month. Therefore, it is much more important to fight on the ground so that the people can see who is who. In any case, without the participation of the sleeping people today, nothing will change.
              4. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 24 July 2020 15: 00 New
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                Quote: businessv
                Therefore, it is much more important to fight on the ground so that the people can see who is who.

                What's the ..... fight on the ground? How can you fight if all the laws are against you? And if you start to fight against the law, they will immediately close it. So, in the Duma, and only in the Duma. Until. Duma members are not deprived of their salaries for incorrect voting. Bonuses, maybe.
  2. Far East
    Far East 21 July 2020 09: 02 New
    +2
    there is such a "maz" here is its excerpt from the text: (And this vomiting of the Furgal country will still hiccup. But the guys will deal with it. I have no doubt. I was in touch with Khabarovsk yesterday on the Internet. Our guys are in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV, FSB, and the Ministry of Defense are determined and determined and thoughtful, and they will work competently. Just twitch, the urges are not completed - it will not seem a little. And it will not work to escape abroad - a pandemic. ) this Jew, KHABAROVCHAN considers "urkami" I am not complaining, NO! just in shock! answered him, got banned!
  • Arlen
    Arlen 20 July 2020 18: 30 New
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    Greetings buddy!
    There is no need to make Furgal an irreconcilable opposition fighter. The arrested governor has never been an implacable oppositionist, neither before his election as governor, nor after.
    After being elected governor, he pursued the policy of the federal center in the region and did not question its priorities. There are no known cases when he publicly criticized the president, the government of the Russian Federation, doubted the effectiveness of the policy of the federal center in relation to the Far East, opposed himself to Moscow. He actively urged to vote for amendments to the constitution, unconditionally supporting Moscow's line.
    Furgal is far from being an ordinary person, but a representative of the political and business elite, a fairly large capitalist by regional standards, a bourgeois, an owner. Furgal's interests were primarily the interests of his business.
    There was one case with him, at the end of 2019, at a meeting with the leaders of political parties, he was asked when he would actually fulfill the promised reduction in the salaries of top regional officials, to which the following answer was received:
    Of course, I can reduce the salaries of ministers to 40-50 thousand, but then they will resign from the government, and we will lose qualified specialists. Who will take their place? People with less responsibility, less skill.

    In 1917, there were already calls to transfer power to the cooks, and we all remember how it ended. I believe that, if not everything, then almost everything depends on managers, and we cannot go for a reduction in wages.

    Only from this one statement of his it is clear what kind of person and politician he is.
    With his election as governor, the regional industry and agriculture did not receive any serious impulses for development. Educators, health workers, workers and engineers, in other words, the working class, did not feel more secure. Their incomes did not increase and the lack of rights in the face of the employer remained. There were no tangible changes.
    The only thing that is worthy of attention in this case is that the protests that took place after the arrest of Furgal show the readiness of people for solidarity actions and this cannot but rejoice. People took to the streets, in spite of everything, and showed their will.
    However, the spontaneous protest did not rise before the formulation of clear demands of a socio-economic and political nature, and is unlikely to rise. And until the slogans change from "Return to us the official we have chosen, albeit not ideal and accused of committing criminal offenses" to "We demand the observance and expansion of our political and economic rights", nothing will change.
    When not the arrest of the governor, but bureaucratic arbitrariness in relation to ordinary people, the dismissal of workers from the enterprise or a protest against exploitation in the workplace will cause the same massive protests, then there will be hope for a change in the situation. Not a change in individuals, but a change in the entire existing system, a change in the existing relations of property and power, a real transfer of power to pro-Soviet forces, and not to one or another representative of various elite groups - this is the way out of the dead end our country has entered.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 20 July 2020 18: 35 New
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      Quote: Arlen
      Greetings buddy!
      There is no need to make Furgal an irreconcilable opposition fighter.

      Hello, Brother! I just said that only an appointee can lose confidence !!! And the one chosen by the people can lose the trust of only the same people and ANYWHERE!
      Or do you disagree? belay
      1. Arlen
        Arlen 20 July 2020 18: 40 New
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        We do not have a procedure for deprivation of the position held by the loss of loss of confidence by the people. Our people cannot even recall the deputies who do not fulfill their election promises.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 20 July 2020 18: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: Arlen
          We do not have a procedure for deprivation of the position held by the loss of loss of confidence by the people. Our people cannot even recall the deputies who do not fulfill their election promises.

          This is what I am talking about, the people chose a person as governor and the president appointed a governor, this is Odessa-style, there are two big differences.
          And here what happens, for example, the president appointed a thief and he will sit until the carrot's zagvina or until he is taken forward with his hooves.
          I would definitely vote for the amendment to recall deputies, governors and the president.
          And now, scrapotation, it is scrapotocation.
          1. Arlen
            Arlen 20 July 2020 19: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: Stroporez
            scrapotation

            Scrapotation ... laughing good
            If I didn't know you, I would have thought that it was Lyokha Lexus who invented this word laughing
            By the way, when will he get out of the "bath"? Say hello to him from me.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 20 July 2020 19: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Arlen
              Arlen

              I'm going tomorrow)))))
              talk pzhl with Krasnoyarsk, otherwise I already don’t have enough health for the Zaputinians to loosen their cast-iron clamps wassat
            2. Arlen
              Arlen 20 July 2020 19: 21 New
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              Quote: Stroporez
              talk pzhl with Krasnoyarsk, otherwise I’m already on zaputintsev

              Is Krasnoyarsk a mess? wassat
              And I thought he was a supporter of the communists ...
              He talks about the same thing, about what I am talking about Furgal.
              Quote: Stroporez
              health is not enough to loosen their cast-iron braces

              Do not pay attention to them. And health will be in order. yes
            3. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 20 July 2020 22: 53 New
              +6
              Quote: Stroporez

              talk pzhl with Krasnoyarsk, otherwise I already don’t have enough health for the Zaputinians to loosen their cast-iron clamps

              Ha! Found a zaputinets. Is that really the point? I had to meet with high-ranking officials, those still (prohibited by the rules of the site). We know that we are criminals, but we cannot do anything. Newly discovered circumstances, as with Furgal, are not revealed.
              I'm sure you Zhangalis are not ruled by reason, but by emotion.
              According to your logic, the investigators are radishes, the judges are radishes, everyone involved in the Furgal case is radishes. And Furgal and you personally are good people. You, not knowing these people, suspect them, in fact, of a crime - fabricating the Furgal case. On what grounds? Based on your belief in the integrity of one Furgal? And don't you believe in the integrity of the multitude of people involved in exposing Furgal?
              P.S. Unlike some, he did not give up his party card.
            4. hydrox
              hydrox 21 July 2020 05: 45 New
              +2
              It's time to forget about the integrity of those who RICH in the 90s, or achieved significant career success at the same time - any enrichment and advancement in those years was based on the robbery of the people and the plundering of the economy associated with the transfer of property rights ... sad
              Of course, separately but from the same point of view, we must consider the construction of a "vertical of power" - this is an act committed within the framework of anti-popular terror.
            5. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 July 2020 06: 03 New
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              Quote: hydrox
              hydrox (hydrox)

              Greetings, Kamrad! The fact is that a friend of friends is against revising the results of privatization, and under him privatization continued constantly. The 90s did not go anywhere, as many believe, but acquired more sophisticated forms, hiding behind pseudo-patriotism and pseudo-statehood.
              Pysy. I myself am glad that my Friend Lesha comes out with another "lip". good
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 21 July 2020 06: 28 New
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            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Ha! Found a zaputinets. Is that really the point?

            It is in this that I am convinced that it is not acceptable for a decent person to vote as a successor to ebn. After the last such vote, he increased the retirement age once again, deceiving the people, as he has been deceiving him for the past 20 years.
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I'm sure you Zhangalis are not ruled by reason, but by emotion.

            And who told you that I am a "Zhabarovsk"? I am for Khabarovsk, who are the only ones in the country who do not defend a truck, no, they defend their CIVIL RIGHTS and their choice!
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Unlike some, he did not give up his party card.

            Moreover, I don’t understand how you became a zaputin, although he also has a party card somewhere.
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 09: 37 New
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            Quote: Stroporez

            And who told you that I am a "Zhabarovsk"? I am for Khabarovsk, who are the only ones in the country who do not defend a truck, no, they defend their CIVIL RIGHTS and their choice!

            That is, even if he is at least three times a murderer, but since we, not knowing this, elected him, we will not allow him to be judged? I feel sorry for my Russia, since such a logic rules the ball. To put a criminal in the chair of the governor, is this CIVIL RIGHTS? However!
            Quote: Stroporez
            Moreover, I don’t understand how you became a Putin,

            Yes, I'm not a confused person. I repeat for the gifted ones - you did not offer a worthy candidate for his place. And changing the president for the sake of changing is not for me, for the youth it is harder than a spoon to hold anything in their hands.
            You are taught - learn from the mistakes of others, but you all do not learn. It is already the sixth president in Ukraine, and how well do people live there? What do you think?
            And you just change your watch for your panties. Well, well, change. But it will not work out like this - what we do not store, having lost crying?
            You are wrong to think that Putin raised the retirement age out of hatred for Russians. Or maybe he simply did not find another way? Probably there was another way to solve the problem, but it turned out not to be in his mind. I am not making excuses for him in any way. I'm just trying to understand. And I understand that it was not because of a good life that he took this step, betraying himself. Do not make him a monster who is only concerned about how to annoy the people.
            With all due respect to your opinion. hi
          4. hydrox
            hydrox 23 July 2020 07: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Probably there was another way to solve the problem, but it turned out not to be in his mind. I am not making excuses for him in any way. I'm just trying to understand.

            I did not expect such a position from you, before you were in a different color.
            But the main thing you said, but with an amendment: it is wrong to say "not according to the mind", it is more correct to say "not according to Senka's hat" (that is, not a backpack by education) - he used to believe Kudrin (and liberda!) For 30 years - and continues to believe him, and 150 million people suffer from this belief in the rationality of liberoids! This is how Russians are not alone: ​​look at the LPNR - they still haven't sewn a mare's tail because they just can't agree on the form of their government with Russia!
          5. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 23 July 2020 10: 03 New
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            Quote: hydrox
            I did not expect such a position from you, before you were in a different color.

            I am always in the same color. You just don't know me much, hence the "bifurcation" of perception.
            I do not believe that liberoids and other LDPRs wish bad things for our people. they just see their way to achieve "all the best."
            To get from point A to point B you can go in different ways, but, in my opinion, only the socialist path can lead there.
            And it is impossible to convince them with words, to prove the incorrectness of the chosen path.
            The elections will give nothing. Capital will always buy power and use it to its advantage. The slogan - "That there were no rich" was not without reason!
          6. hydrox
            hydrox 23 July 2020 10: 21 New
            +1
            The elections will give nothing. Capital will always buy power and use it to its advantage. The slogan - "That there were no rich" was not without reason! [/ Quote]
            I also think that any democratic process is an absolute bastard (and the United States is an example of this).
            Therefore, I propose a different slogan: "There should be no poor!", And the content of the definition of "rich" will be different for everyone, but SANE, otherwise it will be equalization.
          7. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 23 July 2020 10: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: hydrox

            Therefore, I propose another slogan: "There should be no poor!", And everyone will have their own content of the definition of "rich", but

            With the rich, there can be no poor. I am also an opponent of egalitarianism. BUT the difference in pay for any work should not be illogical. Agree that one person cannot earn several million in a month, and another only 15 thousand. Something is wrong with that.
          8. hydrox
            hydrox 23 July 2020 11: 43 New
            +1
            Of course not!
            Within one firm, an enterprise, the coefficient can be no higher than 10 (while in schools and hospitals, where working conditions are proportionally equal, this to-t should not be higher than 5 (the intellectual characteristics of doctors and teachers should be taken into account (there it will be necessary to regulate allowances))
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 23 July 2020 09: 11 New
    +5
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    It is already the sixth president in Ukraine, and how is it good for people to live there? What do you think?

    I don't know how they live, I haven't been there for 6 years. Have you been? Or are you talking with the words of the evening M?
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    You are wrong to think that Putin raised the retirement age out of hatred for Russians. Or maybe he simply did not find another way? Probably there was another way to solve the problem, but it turned out not to be in his mind. I am not making excuses for him in any way. I'm just trying to understand. And I understand that it was not because of a good life that he took this step, betraying himself. Do not make him a monster who is only concerned about how to annoy the people.
    During the period of the pandemic, his friends suddenly became rich by 64 billion, and a penny. the fund has been plundered. Who is doing all this? He does not know? I repeat to you for the 1000th time that this is the receiver of Ebna with all that it implies, and until you realize this our country will face a big and universal trouble!
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 23 July 2020 10: 19 New
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    Quote: Stroporez

    I don't know how they live, I haven't been there for 6 years. Have you been? Or are you talking with the words of the evening M?

    I regularly receive information from Ukraine, I have a lot of friends there.
    Quote: Stroporez
    During the period of the pandemic, his friends suddenly became rich by 64 billion, and a penny. the fund has been plundered. Who is doing all this? He does not know? I repeat to you for the 1000th time that this is the receiver of Ebna with all that it implies, and until you realize this our country will face a big and universal trouble!

    Terribly naive. It is not a matter of the "successor of ebna", it is a matter of the BOURGEOIS Dictatorship.
    And we will not take power from them by any elections. We, stupid rams, gave her away for nothing. They are smarter.
    Therefore, compare not for Furgal (the good governor) - (the good king) Khabarovsk residents should speak out, but for their rights. I don't give a damn about Furgal - the rats gnaw each other and let them gnaw at themselves, we have something.
    Look at the root, my friend. hi
  • hydrox
    hydrox 23 July 2020 07: 34 New
    +1
    Leave you all Khabarovsk residents alone!
    You never know what they did not know when they chose him (although the town is small and they knew FORBIDDEN).
    And you must understand that those who defend Furgal, protect FIRSTLY ALL those who robbed us in the 90s - Furgal is exactly one of these, and not only Amurstal got into his hands that way.
    But these are the same people who KNOW that for their "achievements" the people will still arrange nationalization and there will be happiness for thieves if they are allowed to drain over the hill leaving all the wealth for nationalization ..
  • hydrox
    hydrox 21 July 2020 05: 38 New
    +1
    Thanks for the good news about Lexus!
  • Lexus
    Lexus 22 July 2020 23: 17 New
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    Thank you for your hello and good deeds, Comrade! hi
    Not being able to write, I read a lot and put together puzzles. Screpotation is only the beginning of metamorphosis. The "thimblers" plan for mere mortals to leave only the daily routine in the barracks. For themselves, they somehow decided that the Law is not written. Which is very significant, according to the Russian language, and in vain.

    Be sure, I will always support you with fire and maneuver. soldier
  • Yves762
    Yves762 21 July 2020 06: 38 New
    -1
    Worse, he re-elected them many times ... wassat
  • Arlen
    Arlen 20 July 2020 18: 42 New
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    Quote: Stroporez
    Or do you disagree?

    You did not appreciate my comment a little.
    The main thing in my comment is:
    Quote: Arlen
    The only thing that is worthy of attention in this case is that the protests that took place after the arrest of Furgal show the readiness of people for solidarity actions and this cannot but rejoice. People took to the streets, in spite of everything, and showed their will.

    and here it is
    Quote: Arlen
    When not the arrest of the governor, but bureaucratic arbitrariness in relation to ordinary people, the dismissal of workers from the enterprise or a protest against exploitation in the workplace will cause the same massive protests, then there will be hope for a change in the situation. Not a change in individuals, but a change in the entire existing system, a change in the existing relations of property and power, a real transfer of power to pro-Soviet forces, and not to one or another representative of various elite groups - this is the way out of the dead end our country has entered.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 July 2020 19: 06 New
      +9
      Personally, I didn’t care until Furgal, Furgal, served as a detonator and after watching a lot of protests I realized that people came out of their own free will and Furgal was just an excuse ..
      The population has more and more questions about the authorities.
      -If Furgal is guilty, then why did it surface right now ..
      -An innocent there is not at all .. there are all the bandits from the 90s .. why selectively punish?
      - A strange coincidence with the share of shares in Furgal and the future construction of the bridge ..
      -The protests clearly show the attitude of people to Edru and to the authorities in general ..
      -People have no confidence in the courts, or in the authorities ..
      And this situation is not only in Khabarovsk .. hi
      1. Romey
        Romey 20 July 2020 19: 18 New
        +9
        By the way, one not very strong thought crept in. But what if suddenly there is a daredevil in the prosecutor's office to check the activities of one St. Petersburg vice-mayor in the period from 1991 to 1996? There too a lot of interesting things were going on ...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 20 July 2020 19: 24 New
          +8
          Quote: romey
          By the way, one not very strong thought crept in. But what if suddenly there is a daredevil in the prosecutor's office to check the activities of one St. Petersburg vice-mayor in the period from 1991 to 1996? There too a lot of interesting things were going on ...

          So they will immediately put him in jail ... such a prosecutor, or, by chance, a brick will fall on his head ..
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 20 July 2020 22: 54 New
          +5
          Quote: romey
          But what if suddenly there is a daredevil in the prosecutor's office to check the activities of one St. Petersburg vice-mayor in the period from 1991 to 1996?

          Greetings, Kamrad! And case No. 144128 was opened under two grave articles in 1997;
          Andrei Zykov, retired lieutenant colonel of justice, former senior investigator for particularly important cases of the department for the investigation of crimes in the field of corruption and economics of the Investigative Department of the Investigative Committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the Northwestern Federal District, and was closed by the General Prosecutor's Office on October 1, 2000 retroactively for August 1, 2000
          read there all the very famous people involved. The case was named "Twentieth Trust", then, respectively, in a different way wink
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 21 July 2020 13: 18 New
          0
          That's right!
          Otherwise, where would his wife and daughter live so freely and financially now, because they do not wash the floors (although they cannot do anything except trade in a famous place)
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 21 July 2020 05: 53 New
        -1
        Do you think that a smart person will INTENTIONALLY put an end to his career?
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 21 July 2020 13: 22 New
        0
        Interestingly, and why liberda minus, do they remember the case !?
        This is a memory for Liberdian affairs!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 20 July 2020 22: 25 New
    +2
    Continuing the thought .. Here Semin said very cool:
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 09: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Arlen
    ... bureaucratic arbitrariness against ordinary people, dismissal of workers from an enterprise or protest against exploitation in the workplace ...,

    Why is all this happening? Yes, because at one time we allowed replacing the Soviet Labor Code with modern labor legislation.
    In the Labor Code, the rights of an employee were protected, but under today's legislation? Hired worker - no one and call him - no way. Just a slave.
    Therefore, it is not necessary to protect the vans, but the rights of the employee. We have to start with this. Leaders will emerge in the economic struggle. And then it will be possible to move on to the political struggle. Political struggle is impossible without leaders.
    I do not assert anything, I do not pretend to be true, just - thinking out loud. hi
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 July 2020 08: 03 New
      +1
      You are a little in a hurry: now there is no point in defending a hired worker if you start to engage in nationalization, because under national (truly popular! (Let it stay like that!)) Capitalism will have to write a new Labor Code.
      The main thing now is to break the libertine investment of funds from foreign accounts in the development of the Russian economy and its infrastructure, except for the idiotic high-speed rail lines to Kazan and St. Petersburg, which are completely unnecessary for the people - the people have completely DIFFERENT priorities in the development of the country, but somewhere they intersect with Putin's ...
      But Putin is OBLIGED to conclude an agreement with the people on the transfer of control of the country to him, otherwise he will not succeed silently and accurately with the removal of the liberda over the hill. And the point is not that he wants such actions: it is we who should offer him exactly the algorithm for squeezing out liberda with the loss of property rights, if they do not want to lose their heads along with the power
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 23 July 2020 10: 46 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        if you start to engage in nationalization

        Who will implement it? You? Have you forgotten Putin's - there will be no revision of privatization?
        Quote: hydrox
        But to conclude an agreement with the people

        And he already has an agreement, but not with the people, with big capital. And another agreement, as I understand it, he does not need.
        Quote: hydrox
        MUST, otherwise it will not work silently and accurately with the removal of the liberda over the hill.

        And who told you that this is exactly what he wants? He had 20 years to gather around him at least loyal security officials, with the help of whom it was possible to gradually, little by little, so as not to raise a lot of noise over the hill, to clean the top of power from liberals and the like. But this is if there is such a desire. And if not, then we have what we have, as the first Sumerian president said.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 23 July 2020 12: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Who will implement it? You? Have you forgotten Putin's - there will be no revision of privatization?

        This is Putin said on the liberda.
        After all, he never said that “not a day without arrest,” but for the last two weeks, all domestic policy has been built on the capture of the murderers (even the Buinsky head was caught for an order more than 10 years ago.
        Again, Potanin poured 45 tons of u / v into his pants and lowered the tailings of the Talnakh enrichment plant into the tundra, and, you see, he will be dragged back to the UK, although he is already suing the previous 200 billion - and this is already a complete minced meat for an incomplete official and oh, close nationalization (in vain, perhaps, Sechin entered the top three) ..
        And Siluyanov with Nabiulina and with broken (figuratively!) Hands and the prohibition of the withdrawal of funds over the hill (any funds!) - is that, he stroking the heads of the liberda !?
        And the development strategy up to 30 years - have you read it? There is not a single gram of "state services" there, it was clearly made up of the BBS troika, and then, you still need to look, but if you read it diagonally, this is not a liberal document at all (except for idiocy with the HSR!)
      3. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 23 July 2020 12: 25 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        This is Putin said on the liberda.

        ?? recourse ??
        And about everything else, - let's live green, said the frog. Will we live?
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 20 July 2020 19: 48 New
    +8
    Of course, I can reduce the salaries of ministers to 40-50 thousand, but then they will quit the government, and we will lose qualified specialists. Who will take their place?

    Smiled.
    Furgal is a hypocrite. They will sit there for 10 kopecks. Power is more valuable than money. There is power, there will be money.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 July 2020 08: 08 New
      +1
      It is in a democracy that those in power will have money: in a democracy they will not, because there will be no liberda in power. laughing
  • businessv
    businessv 20 July 2020 21: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: Arlen
    The arrested governor has never been an implacable oppositionist, neither before his election as governor, nor after.

    Well, the governor, in principle, should not be an irreconcilable oppositionist - after all, he is a civil servant, with all the ensuing consequences! It's not about that, but about the planting of people who prevent the authorities from being "good" for the people Bykov, Platoshkin, Furgal - who is next ?!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 July 2020 22: 27 New
      -4
      Quote: businessv
      Quote: Arlen
      The arrested governor has never been an implacable oppositionist, neither before his election as governor, nor after.

      Well, the governor, in principle, should not be an irreconcilable oppositionist - after all, he is a civil servant, with all the ensuing consequences! It's not about that, but about the planting of people who prevent the authorities from being "good" for the people Bykov, Platoshkin, Furgal - who is next ?!

      Anyone who gets in the way ..
      1. businessv
        businessv 20 July 2020 23: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        Anyone who gets in the way ..

        I would add "... to cut the budget and plunder the country." smile
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 21 July 2020 06: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: businessv
          I would add "... to cut the budget and plunder the country"

          We can assume that the quoted period ended at Furgal - they will now ALL massively refuse salaries, just not to lose POWER, while outwardly remaining crystal-clear people, but only those who have gone through Putin's "special training" during the last 2-4 will be lucky years. If he has accumulated financial fat, then we can assume that he is no longer a tenant in office - the power is DEPRECATING !!
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2020 10: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: businessv
          Quote: Svarog
          Anyone who gets in the way ..

          I would add "... to cut the budget and plunder the country." smile

          Did Furgal interfere with cutting the budget and plundering the country? Oh, do you hear? My slippers are laughing.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 23 July 2020 08: 23 New
      +2
      Bykov and Furgal are killers who have made themselves deputy immunity, and Platoshkin is from a completely different series, who did not harm the people a single gram.
      But the fact that he fell under the distribution is the most scummy quality of the democratic process, immediately pushing his ostentatiousness into the very darkness of the centuries of feudalism and authoritarianism.
  • Sanichsan
    Sanichsan 21 July 2020 17: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Arlen
    The only thing that is worthy of attention in this case is that the protests that took place after the arrest of Furgal show the readiness of people for solidarity actions and this cannot but rejoice. People took to the streets, in spite of everything, and showed their will.

    hmmm ... some math. 2000 * 1500 = 3000000, plus about 500000 more for the organizational headquarters. thus the price of your "solidarity actions" is only 3500000 rubles. we arrange all this on a day off by blocking some street with good traffic (2000 people will be enough for this) and the scale of the action increases from 2000 to 4-5000. since we have no conscience, we boldly declare 50000 wink
    if you are carried away by studying Marxism and, suddenly, do not know how mass actions are organized now request
    Quote: Arlen
    When it is not the arrest of the governor, but bureaucratic arbitrariness against ordinary people, the dismissal of workers from the enterprise or protest against exploitation in the workplace that will cause the same mass protests, then there will be hope for a change in the situation.

    then, I'm afraid modern communists have no hope request
    face the truth, in the event of a serious industrial conflict, the central government takes the side of the workers up to the institution of criminal cases against directors. request
    in 1917 the workers and peasants (90% of the population) lived on the rights of livestock and it was obvious what to offer these people so that they follow you, but now the situation is incredibly far from what it was in 1917. What can the communists now offer to people? justice? This is an abstraction that only the most believers will buy now, but they are all already huddled by the Russian Orthodox Church and walk with the face of "St. Nicholas v2".
    who is the target audience? what can you offer them? in the struggle for what will these people take to the streets? like obvious questions but intelligible, and equally obvious, I have not seen the answers. request
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 20 July 2020 22: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Svarog
    Not yet, but wring out, no doubt.

    Colleague, in this case it is not the main thing, but the main thing is that he was deprived of his post of governor!
    And what is characteristic, the people of Furgal showed confidence, and Putin lost it at Furgal.
    That is, the chapter of the constitution that the people is the supreme power is not actually a decree for the president.
    We no longer have a nuda constitution, but we have a bondage.

    you are friends with your head ?????????? let us not squeeze murderers and terrorists, but let them work in their former places!
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 20 July 2020 22: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    And what is characteristic, the people showed confidence in Furgalu, but Putin lost it.

    What do you know about the deep people's trust in the deepest national leader?
  • svp67
    svp67 20 July 2020 17: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    Has he already given a share in the business?

    The wife, owned a solid block of shares, of one very large and possibly soon very profitable enterprise ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 20 July 2020 17: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      owned a solid block of shares in one very large and possibly soon very profitable enterprise ...

      Furgal was out of luck, the stake would have to be given away, otherwise they would be accused of Kennedy's murder.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 20 July 2020 17: 18 New
    +8
    for organizing the killings it’s unlikely that the minimum wage ... raked about a dozen ... and then if the lawyers try and divorce them for cooperation ... he put a lot of people ... we are called only iconic figures eliminated at his request ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 July 2020 17: 27 New
      -2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      for organizing the killings is hardly a minimal ... rake about a dozen

      Even if so, the statute of limitations has expired.
      put a lot of people ... we are called only iconic figures eliminated at his request ...

      Did he tell you that? Or has the court already been?
      1. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 20 July 2020 17: 31 New
        11
        read the Criminal Code ... for a number of crimes there is no statute of limitations ... Nevzlin from Israel does not even come out to Europe ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 20 July 2020 17: 38 New
          +9
          Quote: silberwolf88
          for a number of crimes there is no statute of limitations

          Quote: silberwolf88
          Nevzlin from Israel does not even climb out to Europe ...

          But Hodor was released and feels nothing so-so in the same Europe ...
          1. Procopius Nesterov
            Procopius Nesterov 20 July 2020 18: 34 New
            +4
            What do you mean let go? Khodorkovsky served the term appointed by the court.
          2. mdsr
            mdsr 20 July 2020 18: 43 New
            -3
            Quote: svp67
            But Hodor was released and nothing feels so-so in the same Europe ...

            Well, for him, according to Putin, the sick mother asked. And the president has a weak heart, he took pity crying Although, Khodorkovsky never admitted or repented of the crimes he was charged with. Politics repeat
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 21 July 2020 06: 06 New
              +2
              No need to chew last year's broom - hodor - spent steam, and all his NGOs are living out their last days.
          3. askort154
            askort154 20 July 2020 18: 46 New
            +4
            svp67 ....And Hodor was released and he feels so-so in the same Europe.

            Hodor was not released, he was pardoned by the president for his exemplary behavior while serving his sentence (he sewed a lot of mittens). And the reason for the early amnesty was the promotion in the Western media about the very sick mother of Khodorkovsky, who gave his word to Putin personally that he would not step into politics, and even more against Russia. Putin - signed a decree.
            Hodor not only threw him, but began to brazenly take revenge. The early release of Khodorkovsky was either a mistake or the "Cossack" was sent.
            1. your1970
              your1970 20 July 2020 22: 03 New
              +2
              Quote: askort154
              Hodor was not released, he was pardoned by the president for his exemplary behavior while serving his sentence (he sewed a lot of mittens).
              - and practically from call to call. The only one of all oppa can say - "I was sitting !!" ...
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 21 July 2020 06: 08 New
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                .One of all oppa can say - "I was sitting !!" ...

                At the same time, he is the only one who, under no circumstances, will come to power in Russia! laughing
                1. your1970
                  your1970 21 July 2020 08: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: hydrox
                  Quote: your1970
                  .One of all oppa can say - "I was sitting !!" ...

                  At the same time, he is the only one who, under no circumstances, will come to power in Russia! laughing
                  -do not say gop - until you see what you jumped into ...
                  You never know ... recourse
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 20 July 2020 23: 03 New
              +5
              Quote: askort154
              The early release of Khodorkovsky was either a mistake or the "Cossack" was sent.

              No conspiracies! Hodor was released under pressure from the West, when Putin was told that no one would come to your Olympics and the issue was resolved on December 23, 2013!
          4. silberwolf88
            silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 07 New
            +1
            officially believe that the order is from Nevzlin ... and Khodorkovsky even collaborated with the investigation)))
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 21 July 2020 06: 10 New
              0
              Quote: silberwolf88
              officially believe that the order is from Nevzlin ... and Khodorkovsky even collaborated with the investigation)))

              All this, even in the last decade, had no sense and development - why chew gum !?
    2. Guba
      Guba 20 July 2020 17: 38 New
      -5
      Quote: silberwolf88
      for organizing the killings it’s unlikely that the minimum wage ... raked about a dozen ... and then if the lawyers try and divorce them for cooperation ... he put a lot of people ... we are called only iconic figures eliminated at his request ...

      I agree, the accusation is serious and it’s not without reason that they all brewed it up .. If you just wanted to squeeze out the business, you would squeeze out without this hype!
      There are too many personalities in the government with a bloody criminal past .. And this should not be, no matter what angels they are now.
      A killer thief must go to jail! We will also catch Khodorkovsky, he also "suffered" for the people ... and "suffers" ...
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 20 July 2020 18: 10 New
        +9
        That's exactly the opposite, if there was only a bloody past, he would have governor further to retirement. Business is a completely different matter. Oil streams subsided, and beautifully close associates got used to living. So, this question is more important. If something happens, you can shoot at the people for it.
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 11 New
          +2
          version for the need of the day ... but by ... Furgal is the customer for the murders (well, there is Tolya BYK too), just many witnesses, even after years, are afraid to testify ... so they skipped their prison sentences ...
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 20 July 2020 20: 17 New
            0
            Are there people left in the country who believe in the objectivity of the current bodies of investigation and trial? In Khabarovsk, then they are definitely not.
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 July 2020 18: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Guba
        We will also catch Khodorkovsky, he also "suffered" for the people ... and "suffers" ...

        They’ll look for a long time ... They’ve been looking for Berezovsky for 20 years in Londinium, they couldn’t find it, the city is big ...
        1. Guba
          Guba 20 July 2020 18: 37 New
          -1
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Guba
          We will also catch Khodorkovsky, he also "suffered" for the people ... and "suffers" ...

          They’ll look for a long time ... They’ve been looking for Berezovsky for 20 years in Londinium, they couldn’t find it, the city is big ...

          They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period! bully
          Quote: Observer2014
          And now we’ll see whether it is so or not, Was this the main question. We are waiting for the court’s decision. And will the case reach the court?

          This is a very serious accusation, and even more so, the Moscow-level IC worked .. I see Zhirinovsky was also frightened, there he has quite a few of them.
          1. Alf
            Alf 20 July 2020 18: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Guba
            They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period!

            Why couldn't they find a birch tree?
            1. Guba
              Guba 20 July 2020 19: 19 New
              -4
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: Guba
              They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period!

              Why couldn't they find a birch tree?

              This is a question for the Anglo-Saxons, there they have a big "raspberry thief" in London .. They soaked your birch tree, began to talk too much .. Ask Abramovich to ask him the birch claims ..
              But Khodor has already won a suit against Russia for 50 billion. So modestly hehe
              All in good time Vasily from the USSR wink
              1. Alf
                Alf 20 July 2020 19: 22 New
                +3
                Quote: Guba
                But Khodor has already won a suit against Russia for 50 billion. So modestly hehe

                The main condition for the parole of the hodor was non-participation in politics, otherwise "your case will be taken off the shelf and the dust will be blown off it." The condition, to put it mildly, is not met, and at once. The question is, why does Russia not stutter about his extradition?
                1. Guba
                  Guba 20 July 2020 19: 45 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Alf
                  The question is, why does Russia not stutter about its extradition?

                  For a long time, the case HAS BEEN passed and Interpol was transferred, but .. Having already presented evidence of his participation in contract killings, albeit indirect or maybe not ..
                  There was no refutation from Hodor, but he filed a lawsuit against Russia 50 billion. And he won it Karl !!!
                  Right now the amendments have adopted that the Russian law prevails over the international one .. That is, by our right, this prisoner is a KILLER!
                  And it already passes not as a thief who did not pay taxes and tried to take the whole oil industry under the control of Western companies ... but contract killings, those who interfered with him, and there are many such ...
                  There are many hanging on Berezovsky .. And this one was cunning and was eager for power.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 20 July 2020 19: 48 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Guba
                    Right now the amendments have adopted that the Russian law prevails over the international one .. That is, by our right, this prisoner is a KILLER!

                    Let's see how our government will react ..
                  2. Guba
                    Guba 20 July 2020 20: 15 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Alf
                    Quote: Guba
                    Right now the amendments have adopted that the Russian law prevails over the international one .. That is, by our right, this prisoner is a KILLER!

                    Let's see how our government will react ..

                    I already got from your Furgal (a strange name, not a Jew by chance ..?))) Already sick .. Well, they got already. That there is no one else to discuss? Why are you drowning so many for him here .. The man of Zhirinovsky, who turned out to be a KILLER!
                    And how many more are there? They opened the "aspen's nest", obviously judging by ALL these screams of the neoliberians ..
                    Work brothers !!! It's time to clean up Russia. soldier
                  3. Alf
                    Alf 20 July 2020 20: 22 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Guba
                    Me already from your Wagon

                    Mine is the same as yours ...
                    Quote: Guba
                    It's time to clean up Russia ..

                    Yes, yes ... Putin expelled Yeltsin's oligarchs ... and appointed his own.
                    The left hand fights with the right. We buy tons of popcorn and sit down to watch the multi-part play How I Fight Corruption and Crime. Starring-...
        2. your1970
          your1970 20 July 2020 22: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Guba
          They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period!

          Why couldn't they find a birch tree?
          -his actually London did not give out - like a birch oppositionist
          1. Alf
            Alf 20 July 2020 22: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Guba
            They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period!

            Why couldn't they find a birch tree?
            -his actually London did not give out - like a birch oppositionist

            If a serious Office is given an order for a person to "pack", then this person simply disappears There, to very quickly emerge in the basement of the bloody gebney.
            1. your1970
              your1970 20 July 2020 22: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: Guba
              They will find, or rather give out .. There is NO limitation period!

              Why couldn't they find a birch tree?
              -his actually London did not give out - like a birch oppositionist

              If a serious Office is given an order for a person to "pack", then this person simply disappears There, to very quickly emerge in the basement of the bloody gebney.
              - the international consequences of the kidnapping of birch - would block the real benefits from this ...

              And yes - for some reason I don’t remember anyone famous after WWII was kidnapped.
              The story with R. Wallenberg is not to be cited - everything is extremely muddy there
              1. Alf
                Alf 21 July 2020 19: 25 New
                0
                Quote: your1970
                The story with R. Wallenberg is not to be cited - everything is extremely muddy there

                Just everything is clear - less need to distribute Swedish passports to some residents of Aryan origin.
                Quote: your1970
                Something I don’t remember that someone famous after the Second World War was kidnapped.

                Not always worldwide fame, very often someone is widely known in narrow circles.
              2. your1970
                your1970 21 July 2020 20: 17 New
                0
                Quote: Alf
                Just everything is clear - less need to distribute Swedish passports to some residents of Aryan origin.
                - so everything is just unclear - whether he was kidnapped at all, whether he was with us ... everything is too muddy there ... I don't believe at all that he was with us for any length of time ...
                everything is muddy there and the documents are muddy
              3. Alf
                Alf 21 July 2020 20: 26 New
                0
                Quote: your1970
                Quote: Alf
                Just everything is clear - less need to distribute Swedish passports to some residents of Aryan origin.
                - so everything is just unclear - whether he was kidnapped at all, whether he was with us ... everything is too muddy there ... I don't believe at all that he was with us for any length of time ...
                everything is muddy there and the documents are muddy

                I, in turn, came across evidence several times that it was ours who bred him. And an interesting point - the Swedish side asked ours - do you have anything on our Wallenberg, and the person in the hierarchy of Sweden is not the last. Our honest eyes said no. And with this, the requests from Sweden stopped ...
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 July 2020 19: 23 New
    -6
    Guba
    This is a very serious accusation, and even more so, the Moscow-level IC worked .. I see Zhirinovsky was also frightened, there he has quite a few of them.
    yes Yes, these are very serious accusations. I don’t know about Zhirinovsky. But for the sake of purity, so to speak, the polemic, I think, should be put on Zhirinovsky.I’m saying right away, I’m not a soldier.
    1. Guba
      Guba 20 July 2020 20: 16 New
      -4
      Quote: Observer2014
      I’m saying right away, I’m not a soldier.

      I know ..
      Zhirinovsky is still nimble already in the 90s ... as if they hadn't started a case against him hehe
      I would be glad ... Zyuganov also needs to be checked for order, old fighters are sitting there under whom the USSR was robbed and humiliated ..
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 20 July 2020 21: 24 New
        -4
        Quote: Guba
        Quote: Observer2014
        I’m saying right away, I’m not a soldier.

        I know ..
        Zhirinovsky is still nimble already in the 90s ... as if they hadn't started a case against him hehe
        I would be glad ... Zyuganov also needs to be checked for order, old fighters are sitting there under whom the USSR was robbed and humiliated ..

        But I’ll put the freshest. From Konstantin Semin. I think the most interesting video. Well, what is he telling a lie? Agree, it looks fair after Zhirinovsky’s opinion put by me.
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 20 July 2020 18: 29 New
    20
    Quote: Guba
    There are too many personalities in the government with a bloody criminal past .. And this should not be, no matter what angels they are now.

    Ja, ja. Pasha Mercedes, plus who was the Interior Minister in 1993? Plus the commander of Dzerzhinka, plus Mr. Shoigu, plus ... well, there is a long list, an armed coup, hostage-taking, terrorism, etc. By the way, 1 of the articles is really without a limitation period. When are we going to plant Pasha and Mr. Shoigu?
    Mr. Kadyrov Jr. Attempts to destroy the integrity of the Russian Federation, terrorism, again hostages, genocide, etc. He has at least 3 articles without a deadline. When are we going to plant the dearest gentleman?
    Potanin, Lisin, Alekperov, Chubais, Soskovets and other evil spirits from the category of second-wave privatizers. However, from the first one can remember someone. Theft of property worth close to a trillion dollars at current asset prices. In principle, there is a limitation period. However, in terms of severity, it is much more serious than even 10 murders. Because of the lack of money for medicines, tens of thousands of people died. When will we plant?
    Mister guarantor. Patronage of all of the above. Direct refusal to prosecute those listed in the 3rd paragraph. In terms of severity, it covers all combined. When will we plant?
    Do you understand what the abomination of the situation is? It’s like putting a bully who shit in the doorway back in Yeltsin’s time, and appointing a serial killer, the head of a drug cartel, and the commandant of a concentration camp as a follower, prosecutor and judge. We will organize a term for the organizer of 1-2-3 murders, and for the dear gentlemen who killed millions of Russian citizens directly and indirectly ... We will hang the stars of the heroes. Where is the logic?
    PS
    Little paws, I understand, now you are less indignant. BUT. If you scream - the killers and thieves must sit, then scream about all the killers and thieves, and not about one wagon.
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 July 2020 18: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      If you scream - the killers and thieves must sit, then scream about all the killers and thieves, and not about one wagon.

      Aloizych once said so, I myself decide who the Jew is.
      1. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 16 New
        +3
        for the sake of the purity of history, it was Goering ... about the beginnings. Air Force headquarters said))
        1. Alf
          Alf 20 July 2020 20: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: silberwolf88
          for the sake of the purity of history, it was Goering ... about the beginnings. Air Force headquarters said))

          I'm sorry, I was wrong, but it doesn't change the essence ...
    2. Guba
      Guba 20 July 2020 18: 49 New
      -5
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      When are we going to plant Pasha and Mr. Shoigu?

      Pavel Grachev died, this is for you a heart attack ..
      He was not a bad warrior, but he was not a minister of defense and a politician, just like his rival General-Swan .. They set up both of them idiots.! On the one hand, it’s a pity, on the other hand, a lot of blood of Russian soldiers on them, although they were performers ..
      And Furgal, etc. will sit !!! These were used in the 90s, etc. And now they are trying to crush Russia in the same ways.
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 20 July 2020 19: 06 New
        +6
        Quote: Guba
        And Furgal, etc. will sit !!! These were used in the 90s, etc. And now they are trying to crush Russia in the same ways.

        And what kind of double standards will Furgal sit, but Kadyrov will not? Why is this so? Both that and that criminal
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 19 New
          -1
          there is no need to distort and interfere with politics ... the cooperation of Kadyrov senior saved many lives of our military and the existence of the Chechens ... yes ... until a certain time he was an enemy ... BUT not a criminal ... and he had enough political wisdom ... change your point of view
          1. Alf
            Alf 20 July 2020 20: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: silberwolf88
            BUT not a criminal ... and he had enough political wisdom ... to change his point of view

            Yeah, political wisdom ... I realized that they would soon take him on, that's just in time he changed his shoes.
          2. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 20 July 2020 21: 08 New
            +7
            no need to juggle and interfere with the criminal with politics

            And the fact that members of this family fought on the side of Ichkeria and killed Russians is not a "criminal offense", it is a "fair fight" and in general it was not bandits who had seized power that fought against the federal troops, but rebels who fought for all good, against all bad. Oh well...
            1. silberwolf88
              silberwolf88 20 July 2020 22: 55 New
              +1
              I don't know what you had to do with the first and second PM (if suddenly there were ... then the level of understanding of the events of the company / battalion / regiment or brigade ... hardly the headquarters of the group or GOU) ... putting things in order after ... write a HYIP ... but not in the subject ... especially bullshit about "fair fight" and so on ... disentangling political mess is not at all about that ...
              secession ... separatism and outright banditry ... yes, this is a visiting card of those events ... BUT Akhmad Kadyrov had the courage and political will to turn to Peace (namely political) ... and this saved many lives ...
              Neither Kadyrov senior ... nor our military (they did everything they could) and even more so the Russian-speaking population of the Caucasus (and the rest of the republics) are not to blame for the miscalculations of the then central government and the local kings ...
              1. Dante Alighieri
                Dante Alighieri 21 July 2020 10: 26 New
                +1
                I don't know what you had to do with the first and second PM (if suddenly there were ... then the level of understanding of the events of the company / battalion / regiment or brigade ... hardly the headquarters of the group or GOU)

                Thank God it passed me directly, because by that time I was still a green jerk, but, unfortunately, this confrontation did not bypass my family. In general, two of the most vivid childhood memories: the first is my birthday (I was just born on December 11), cake, candles and tanks on TV, descending from the dais in the direction of the distant city in the background, the second - volleys into the air at the funeral of my cousin brother who returned home in a buried zinc box.
                You are saying a lot and correctly, but you are talking about politics. And the commentators above, whom I supported, spoke about a slightly different category - about the law. And from his point of view, the merits of the Kadyrov family do not cancel the crimes they have committed, even if they have confessed to them.
                As for myself, for me they will forever remain enemies, one of those who arranged this monstrous orgy, and this will not change anything.
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 July 2020 20: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Guba
        Pavel Grachev died ... The warrior was not bad

        What exactly was good? Fought somewhere? Awarded for combat services or for heroic pencil turning?
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 20 New
          +5
          you are strange ... in Afghanistan he proved himself to be a heroic and very intelligent commander ... well, in terms of the level of understanding of tasks, he remained a good, strong and decisive COMMANDER no more ...
          1. Alf
            Alf 20 July 2020 20: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: silberwolf88
            you are strange ... in Afghanistan he proved himself to be a heroic and very intelligent commander ... well, in terms of the level of understanding of tasks, he remained a good, strong and decisive COMMANDER no more ...

            So I didn’t know this, thanks, honestly.
        2. Guba
          Guba 20 July 2020 20: 26 New
          -3
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Guba
          Pavel Grachev died ... The warrior was not bad

          What exactly was good? Fought somewhere? Awarded for combat services or for heroic pencil turning?

          In Afghanistan, he fought and they do not speak badly .. I haven’t heard anything bad about him. Until he got into politics, including about Swan .. soldier
          Grachev often with EBN soared and thumped and was sincerely devoted to him, but
          In politics, they were suckers full of suckers. And they both ended badly, I don’t know whether they died or who helped .. But it’s not a pity that they themselves chose this path and even betrayed the Army BOTH!
          hi
    3. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 15 New
      +1
      everything to a heap ... bacon honey, manure and nails ... do not interfere with a banal criminal law with politics ... and you don’t need your foolishness here ...
    4. your1970
      your1970 20 July 2020 22: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Pasha Mercedes,

      Quote: Lannan Shi
      When will we plow and to plant mister shoigu?

      you, in your accusatory fuse, for a start, so to speak, would clarify whom going to plant ...
      Plant DEAD alas, impossible for any justice in the world ...
      "Pavel Sergeevich Grachev (January 1, 1948, Tula region - September 23, 2012,"
      fool fool fool
      and then they are surprised - someone's people don't really believe them ...
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 09 New
    +1
    you are right of course despite all the backing tracks
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 July 2020 18: 14 New
    -7
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Guba
    Now, if only the person on duty on the camera shines for him ..

    As far as I understand, the "main question" put forward to Furgal has already been resolved, so I am sure that he will get off with a minimum period ...
    hi And now we’ll see whether it is so or not, Was this the main question. We are waiting for the court’s decision. And will the case reach the court? repeatEspecially considering that they have appointed the interim from the LDPR.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 20 July 2020 18: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      Quote: svp67
      Quote: Guba
      Now, if only the person on duty on the camera shines for him ..

      As far as I understand, the "main question" put forward to Furgal has already been resolved, so I am sure that he will get off with a minimum period ...
      hi And now we’ll see whether it is so or not, Was this the main question. We are waiting for the court’s decision. And will the case reach the court? repeatEspecially considering that they have appointed the interim from the LDPR.

      There is no turning back. Now - or in prison for a long time, go hang yourself at night in a pre-trial detention center, as, for example, the deputy Khabarov in Ekb.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 20 July 2020 18: 58 New
        -4
        There is no turning back. Now - or in prison for a long time, go hang yourself at night in a pre-trial detention center, as, for example, the deputy Khabarov in Ekb.
        Come on. Furgal S.I. now it is necessary to take care of it. And how to take care of it. Here, neither he nor the Kremlin has no way back.
    2. Kisa
      Kisa 20 July 2020 19: 45 New
      +5
      I'm interested in watching Zhirik - the weather vane is still the same. PR - right now gave the back. Communists Zhirinovites - also my opposition - feed from one hand. and Vova himself denies himself from Edrosni once again, no longer associates with them.
      I read the following line in the official biography of this acting: “since 2009, he has been in the personnel reserve of the President of the Russian Federation” .... well, well))))
      1. Guba
        Guba 20 July 2020 20: 49 New
        -3
        Quote: kitty
        I'm interested in watching Zhirik - the weather vane is still the same. PR - right now gave the back

        Well, mom is Russian, dad is a lawyer .. And that says it all! In the early 90s, was a Zionist organization, but something went wrong and became the defender of the Russian ha ha ha And away we go! lol
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 20 July 2020 20: 01 New
    +4
    There is such a plant - "Amurstal". It costs 5 lard, and the production of jew's harp costs 22 lard. Annually. 25% of the shares belonged to Furgal, another 25 - to his partner Mistryukov. another 50% belong to the Rotenberg brothers. And what is Rothenberg's food? This is a friend-footcloth of Allah Vladimirovich (as Kadyrov called him). After the elections, Furgal was told - "You got the post - give up your shareholding! And let your partner give it back!" Furgal sent petitioners on an erotic hike. Mistryukov did the same. In 2019, he was put in jail and so "taken care" that he gave up his shares and drew charges against Furgal and got cancer of the internal organs, which is not treated. By the way, no one is allowed to see him, not even doctors and his wife. And now Furgal has been taken, and his shares have already been taken away. That's the whole story with the reason!
  • shultz21070
    shultz21070 20 July 2020 23: 33 New
    -2
    The limitation period for what is sewn for him has expired
  • serzh.kost
    serzh.kost 20 July 2020 17: 13 New
    +1

    this is slander! laughing
  • Svarog
    Svarog 20 July 2020 17: 17 New
    -4
    The decree on the resignation of Furgal was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was reported by the Kremlin press service.

    Putin broke the silence. This of course was predictable, for it was planned.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 20 July 2020 17: 26 New
      -7
      Putin broke the silence. This of course was predictable, for it was planned.

      Contract killings cannot be unplanned. Soak and in the toilet ..
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 20 July 2020 17: 32 New
        +3
        Well, usually in Russia ....
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 20 July 2020 20: 22 New
          0
          why do you not like Russia so ironic you are ours ???
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 20 July 2020 21: 10 New
            +4
            why don't you like Russia so much?

            1. silberwolf88
              silberwolf88 20 July 2020 22: 41 New
              -3
              again you pass by ...)))
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 20 July 2020 17: 06 New
    19
    He thanked Putin "for leaving the region behind the party"

    They've divided the country there, so it turns out ..?
    1. ancient
      ancient 20 July 2020 17: 10 New
      12
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      They've divided the country there, so it turns out ..?

    2. credo
      credo 20 July 2020 17: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma, "90% of which are representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party."

      The point is not at all in the division, but in the fact that - "... Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma," 90% of which are representatives of the LDPR "....".
      This is a logical and tactical move, since it has become so in the region and nothing more.
    3. credo
      credo 20 July 2020 17: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma, "90% of which are representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party."

      The point is not at all in the division, but in the fact that - "... Degtyarev will receive the support of the regional Duma," 90% of which are representatives of the LDPR "....".
      This is a logical and tactical move, since it has become so in the region and nothing more.
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 20 July 2020 17: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      They've divided the country there, so it turns out ..?

      Naturally, everyone has their own fiefdom .. and the one who does not unfasten loses everything ..
  • Asad
    Asad 20 July 2020 17: 08 New
    +4
    The Liberal Democratic Party is not the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia will be coolly met.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 09 New
    +2
    I hope that the new, albeit acting one, does not have its own "cabinet with skeletons" ???
    In general, now everyone will be able to see how things go with the appointee from above.
    1. halpat
      halpat 20 July 2020 17: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      I hope that the new, albeit acting one, does not have its own "cabinet with skeletons" ???
      In general, now everyone will be able to see how things go with the appointee from above.

      Each of those who have made their way to the highest echelons of power have "skeleton cabinets" ... very different.

      PS. Nothing sticks to Zhirik, shook himself and went on ... to base.
      Furgal was left alone, as I understand it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Halpat
        The van was left alone, as I understand it

        A lame horse, they can, they can quit, finally. We will see.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 20 July 2020 17: 21 New
      12
      Quote: rocket757
      In general, now everyone will be able to see how things go with the appointee from above.

      It will be difficult for the new appointee .. Khabarovsk residents felt themselves to be people, now they will tear three skins from the new governor ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 29 New
        +3
        It’s easier to be, to communicate with people NORMALLY! Then people will treat him normally.
        He does not need to break ANYTHING, he sits up, and perhaps he will receive support, if not a coffin!
        He wants to fly against ... the flag in his hands, maybe he doesn’t have time to sit!
        1. Guba
          Guba 20 July 2020 17: 56 New
          -4
          Quote: rocket757
          He does not need to break ANYTHING, he sits up, and perhaps he will receive support, if not a coffin!
          He wants to fly against ... the flag in his hands, maybe he doesn’t have time to sit!

          Well, Zhirinovsky Putin thanked that the region had left behind the Liberal Democratic Party ... So everything will subside soon. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 July 2020 18: 41 New
            -2
            Is not a fact. To consider that the people's seething was initiated from outside / inside, but by specific forces and had no other reasons, self-organization. This is just an assumption, one option.
            We'll see.
  • Kisa
    Kisa 20 July 2020 17: 10 New
    -5
    hmm, hold a meeting, don't hold a meeting anyway, get it .....
  • zontov79
    zontov79 20 July 2020 17: 10 New
    -2
    Putin would have tried to put a thief from United Russia. We would have removed a filthy mustache with a loss of trust better. Although he is his own Krasnoyarsk, but worse than the enemy.
    1. Dante Alighieri
      Dante Alighieri 20 July 2020 18: 57 New
      +2
      And Uss shares on time and with the right people, so everyone forgives him: millions of hectares of taiga taken to China, and the remnants, in order to hide the scale of theft, committed to the fire, so that the whole Siberian Federal District does not see the white sky for a month, and washed away together with workers of the mines, and an environmental disaster, and the privatized Lena shipping company, which, by the way, also did not manage without the death of the previous director, who until recently defended the position of what an "enterprise" is, having a systemic nature for the whole macroregion, directly determining the life of northern villages, a priori cannot be private. He was also awarded a medal. So OSS, calm down, you were told in plain text through the mouth of Senator Klishes: thieves' raspberries in this country are serious and for a long time.
  • seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 20 July 2020 17: 13 New
    -1
    Chairman of the Committee of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation of the VII convocation on physical culture, sports, tourism and youth affairs from October 5, 2016 to July 20, 2020.
    Member of the Supreme Council of the LDPR (2013-2017), member of the presidium of the LDPR faction in the State Duma of the VII convocation.
    From 2011—2016 - Deputy Chairman of the Committee of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation for Science and Science-Intensive Technologies of the VI convocation.

    There really is no difference what to lead! It can be science, it can be sports, or it can be a region!))))
    1. zenion
      zenion 20 July 2020 17: 16 New
      +1
      If you got a donkey in the nomenklatura, take it out, give him a leading position.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 20 July 2020 17: 52 New
      +1
      Each deputy usually consists of two to three committees. Degtyarev's education is associated with aircraft engines.
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 20 July 2020 18: 01 New
        +5
        I noticed this, as well as the fact that he started in the United Russia and abruptly jumped off to the Liberal Democratic Party. 39 years old, it's already age! And not a day of management experience! And he threw education! He does not need engines!
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 20 July 2020 17: 54 New
      0
      There really is no difference what to lead! It can be science, it can be sports, or it can be a region!))))

      Well, what, Samara State Aerospace University. S.P. Koroleva (SSAU), assistant of the department. English is fluent.
      Master of Sports in Fencing.
      If Mutko really managed ...
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 20 July 2020 19: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Arzt
        There really is no difference what to lead! It can be science, it can be sports, or it can be a region!))))

        Well, what, Samara State Aerospace University. S.P. Koroleva (SSAU), assistant of the department. English is fluent.
        Master of Sports in Fencing.
        If Mutko really managed ...

        What did Mutko handle? belay
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 20 July 2020 20: 37 New
          +2
          What did Mutko handle?

          Skepticism.
          I coped with nothing, I screwed everything up. But it is considered (by some) a good leader.
          And here is the master of sports, who else should steer the Committee on FiS.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 20 July 2020 20: 48 New
            +1
            I'm blunt, sorry! laughing drinks
          2. seregin-s1
            seregin-s1 20 July 2020 20: 49 New
            0
            In vain you drive to Mutko! The Olympics were the best of the winter! We managed to build everything.
            1. alone
              alone 20 July 2020 21: 12 New
              0
              Quote: seregin-s1
              They managed to build everything.

              And they cooked well. Spent so much money on one springboard fellow
  • zenion
    zenion 20 July 2020 17: 15 New
    -4
    Is he still alive, or was he removed posthumously? After all, this can be the same as with Beria.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 20 July 2020 17: 16 New
    +2
    So, for about 15 years I "trusted" the criminal-murderer, now "I shot through" - "loss of trust", I think they did not share something this or last year, and they remembered their sins. I think there are many "daddy with deeds" make me sing in the choir, like fake-OPA- "daddy".
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 20 July 2020 18: 10 New
      +1
      Yu. Luzhkov, too much trusted, and then "comrade Beria, got out of trust" ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 17: 20 New
    -1
    Well now let's see how the locals will react hi
    Furgala was filmed in lawlessness - in violation of a bunch of laws of the Russian Federation - let's see what happens next repeat
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 July 2020 18: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Furgala was filmed in lawlessness - in violation of a bunch of laws of the Russian Federation - let's see what happens next

      Yes, there will be nothing.
    2. Procopius Nesterov
      Procopius Nesterov 20 July 2020 18: 48 New
      +3
      It’s possible, you say a lot. List at least three broken laws.
  • bald
    bald 20 July 2020 17: 28 New
    -1
    Who to believe ?, well, full ass, but you need to answer. No one has faith.
    1. Guba
      Guba 20 July 2020 17: 52 New
      -5
      Quote: bald
      Who to believe ?, well, full ass, but you need to answer. No one has faith.

      Don’t tell Vladimir. hi Some shout one, others another. Who to listen to? Let's see what exactly will be presented and how it will be justified.
      Although I sense when the Court begins and they begin to present evidence, all and all the "defenders" at once will subside and shudder .. Let's see!
  • Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 20 July 2020 17: 33 New
    -6
    Misha won’t pull, everyone laughs in Samara
    1. Guba
      Guba 20 July 2020 18: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
      Misha won’t pull, everyone laughs in Samara

      You all know there in your EU .. Are you trying to teach us everything in Russia?
      1. bald
        bald 20 July 2020 19: 10 New
        +2
        The courts, too, have no faith, I’m everything so decent, well, like Solovyov’s transmission, he’s a smart man, well-read, but cunning, like all of them.
        1. Guba
          Guba 20 July 2020 19: 54 New
          -6
          Quote: bald
          Solovyova on the show is a smart man, well-read, but smart-ass, like all of them.

          A little the breeze will change, right away Vladimir will sing in a different way!
          As a joke, now in Russia there is "Every Abram on the TV Channel" ..
          They sit there right on top of each other and sing so sweet ..)))) Sometimes they knock out a tear straight out .. ha ha ha
          And then they bark among themselves and again in a circle .. And sometimes our men are not heard .. negative
          1. bald
            bald 23 July 2020 22: 08 New
            0
            This is a difficult question for Russia and should not be cut from the shoulder. The worst thing is that you can't see fair people.
  • prior
    prior 20 July 2020 17: 41 New
    +5
    "... the appointment of Degtyarev as Acting Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory ... "

    Continuation of the series "The Life of Political Worms ..."
    1. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
      Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 20 July 2020 17: 51 New
      -4
      To Samara to hold on to the bellies from laughter, he is from Samara
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 18: 04 New
    +7
    Quote: Guba
    .
    A killer thief must go to jail! We will also catch Khodorkovsky, he also "suffered" for the people ... and "suffers" ...

    Although I personally have nothing against Khodorkovsky, I clarify - he has already served "his" and his Power literally in a matter of days after leaving the colony made him both an ordinary passport and a foreign passport - and he left the Russian Federation on "all 4 sides" wassat

    Think about the efficiency !!! A few days later, the person "released with a clear conscience" receives all the official documents fool You just try to get a passport by age in the usual way, for example, at 45 years old - 2 weeks at least - I am still silent about foreign travel bully
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 20 July 2020 18: 21 New
      -1
      I got my passport four years ago in 5 days. There is nothing difficult.
  • Irek
    Irek 20 July 2020 18: 06 New
    -2
    Will change the governor's chair, to the seat in the "Black Dolphin" ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 July 2020 18: 06 New
    10
    One thing is not clear. It was possible to remove Furgal for the loss of trust from the very beginning. Failure to comply with presidential decrees, disruption of national projects, etc. ... And if suddenly the people rose, it would be easier to explain and the people calmed down. No, it was necessary to arrange a militant, certainly some then Furgal is involved in the shooting of "business partners", they will dig up Furgal for a minimum wage, as they say, ".. and who doesn't drink ?! Name it!" But ... the Khabarovsk governor, from the Liberal Democratic Party, with an article will never be nominated as a presidential candidate from the Liberal Democratic Party, like another, gaining popularity, the leader of the political party "Alternative for Russia (Party of Socialist Choice)" dungeons "N. Platoshkin. Yes, and the party itself will order a long life. Until the presidential elections, there is still time, let's see who else will covet and what will happen to him ... It seems that Furgal was considered as a potential presidential candidate from the Liberal Democratic Party ...
  • pexotinec
    pexotinec 20 July 2020 18: 17 New
    +7
    And on the main inform channels silence. There is no coverage of rallies, polls of people. About some fires and covid. This is freedom of the media
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 18: 27 New
    -1
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    I got my passport four years ago in 5 days. There is nothing difficult.

    If you did not pay extra for the accelerated rate, then in 5 days I DO NOT believe it !!! drinks
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 20 July 2020 18: 36 New
      +7
      Yes, this shot, like a "St. Petersburg entrepreneur", everything is simple, quick and hurt .... in 5 days he made a passport for Tekstilshchikov, yeah ... I did it for a fee, so in 2 (10 working days) they did it. The brother-in-law in front of the covid did a month for the Finns without "acceleration" Moreover, he wrote on the website of the State Services.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 20 July 2020 18: 36 New
      -2
      Of course I paid extra. Pay for speed. And the lost driver was quickly restored. Nothing is impossible, you don't have to be Khodorkovsky for that.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 20 July 2020 18: 46 New
        +8
        You are right, there would be money ... there for speed, there for attention ... from the top ... And no corruption laughing
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 18: 28 New
    -5
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Furgala was filmed in lawlessness - in violation of a bunch of laws of the Russian Federation - let's see what happens next

    Yes, there will be nothing.

    I really hope so !!! hi
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 18: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Of course I paid extra. Pay for speed. And the lost driver was quickly restored. Nothing is impossible, you don't have to be Khodorkovsky for that.

    Well, why denyuzhku then squeezed ?! wassat After all, even officially, you can do it with an additional payment for 3 days? bully

    This is what they say to you - starting with me - you live in Russia of a bright future - and we all bathe in Russia in the present wassat And these two Russia are different !!! bully
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 20 July 2020 19: 13 New
      -2
      Duc I had to do it in a week, I didn't need it in three days. And Russia is a country of opportunities. Oh, to throw off 20 years!
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 19: 08 New
    +6
    Quote: Procopius Nesterov
    It’s possible, you say a lot. List at least three broken laws.

    1. First - the President makes a "vote of no confidence" - and then the Governor is pressed "according to the full scheme"
    2. If Furgal is really guilty of what he is accused of, 30 people must immediately "sit down" with him from his "roof" - because then the FSB "COUNTED", and did not check his ins and outs up to 7 knees before he gave the go-ahead for the elections to Governors
    3. Since what he is accused of happened in the Khabarovsk Territory - both the investigation and the court should be at the place of the crime

    These were the three most primitive answers to your question. hi

    And now - "the cherry on the cake" wassat

    The governor - by status - belongs to the "zero-level" secret carriers - and now wait right now - if according to the mind and the Law - even now in his personal cell there should be two FSB officers around the clock and two outside the door - if by law and mind ))) I could have missed something - but so far I have not heard a single news about it repeat
    1. BAI
      BAI 20 July 2020 20: 07 New
      +2
      I could have missed something

      Missed a lot. Yesterday there was a TV show of the former governor of the Bryansk region sitting. No additional protection, runs a local (colonial) poultry farm, provides the entire UFSIN with eggs.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 20 July 2020 19: 15 New
    +4
    Look, the authorities did not expect such a reaction, and on TV they began to turn information about Furgal's criminal past! The question is rather that the authorities, as it were, did not know before that about this person earlier than he did what he earned?
    1. Arlen
      Arlen 20 July 2020 19: 29 New
      22
      Quote: APASUS
      The authorities didn’t seem to know about this person before, what they did, what did they earn?

      This is the most interesting and strange. I already wrote today in one of my comments that it is difficult to imagine that the power structures "overlooked" the biography of a politician of this magnitude. I think the point is that an order was received from above to use incriminating evidence. But why and why?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 20 July 2020 19: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: Arlen
        I think the point is that an order was received from above to use incriminating evidence. But why and why?

        This is not compromising, it is an attempt to drown, but in order to reduce the passions, they say everything is according to the law. Where this law has been all this time and to whom it has been unfastened at the top is not clear
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 19: 18 New
    -2
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Duc I had to do it in a week, I didn't need it in three days. And Russia is a country of opportunities. Oh, to throw off 20 years!

    So you still do not understand, we will not "measure ourselves with pips" with you - but it may be that I have more opportunities than you - for me and my family personally repeat But ... I after all ... "I am offended for the state !!!" (from)

    "It is impossible to live in society and be free from it" (c)

    For me, Russia is not only me, my family and my relatives ... These are friends, acquaintances, and neighbors, and just citizens of Russia ... But they are very ill for the most part ... And it’s not necessary about everyone judge by yourself!!! tongue
  • NordUral
    NordUral 20 July 2020 19: 35 New
    +2
    I suspect the Furgal case will be quietly washed out. Zhirik was thrown a bone and explained. The people are also a small bone in the form of a governor from the Liberal Democratic Party.
    Well, wait and see.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 20 July 2020 19: 55 New
    -1
    all those who are objectionable to the authorities for one reason or another, or who digs for corruption, are either planted or robbed of something. This is not 37 years old, but much worse. Then they planted him for the fact that if he was not an ideological communist or for not fulfilling what he promised. and now objectionable .. it’s bad when in power snickering thieves from the 90s are sitting, how many pockets do not fill them all up little ... it’s good if the stripes with their sanctions take away everything that they managed to discard over the hill
    1. flicker
      flicker 20 July 2020 23: 48 New
      +1
      This is not 37 years old, but much worse.
      yes
      You seem to be an eyewitness, tell us how it was in 37 wassat
      People seem to like the 37th year very much, and they say "it is necessary as in 37" bully
  • flicker
    flicker 20 July 2020 20: 00 New
    +1
    The squad will not notice the loss of a soldier bully

    The system has thrown out of its ranks an element that is no longer needed and will quietly continue to function further.
    And all these slogans "I am we Furgal", "Furgal is our choice" and others - can now be placed in the closet and forgotten.
    Well ... especially exalted ones, of course, can periodically pull them out of the closet, look, shed a tear crying and back to the closet. bully
  • BAI
    BAI 20 July 2020 20: 03 New
    0
    the reason for Furgal's resignation was "loss of trust"

    At the same time, he has a commendation from the government of the Russian Federation (2016).
    And when they were awarded with trust, was everything okay?
    This formulation ("loss of trust") looks more and more like a girl with low political responsibility.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 20 July 2020 20: 11 New
    -3
    Quote: BAI
    I could have missed something

    Missed a lot. Yesterday there was a TV show of the former governor of the Bryansk region sitting. No additional protection, runs a local (colonial) poultry farm, provides the entire UFSIN with eggs.

    Well, vooot ... even sitting in the tower, the Governor - albeit a former - but breaks the Law bully And at the same time - everyone who knows about it laughing
    Purely soooo ... for fun, read the Laws of Statements hi
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 20 July 2020 20: 23 New
    +2
    Moreover, Khabarovsk residents themselves asked for this, so that the new head of the region would not be a Muscovite, not a native of United Russia, but a representative of the LDPR
    Not a Muscovite, but he took part in the Moscow mayoral elections twice (2013 and 2018). It has nothing to do with the Far East. The dubious figure, and that of the LDPR, does not solve anything. In Khabarovsk, the people rose up for their own, and not for the Liberal Democratic Party, which in general, do not understand why
  • grad2308
    grad2308 20 July 2020 20: 52 New
    0
    Already out https://news.nashbryansk.ru/2018/04/24/routine/nikolay-denin/
    Nikolay Denin was released SOCIETY 2018, April 24, 10:52 4229
    The egg factory is bankrupt (the one under it was in Bryansk), the land (you can say the city center) is sold out. Only chicken production remained in the region (Miratog, Chicken Kingdom).
  • Hey
    Hey 20 July 2020 20: 54 New
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    Degtyarev will be a strong Acting Governor, some of his initiatives as a deputy are worth:
    - collect all the monuments to Lenin in Ulyanovsk
    - repaint the Moscow Kremlin white
    - make Moscow a resort city, clean the Moscow river and fill the banks with sand.
    - prohibit the circulation of the dollar in sports organizations
    Oh, and will drive in Khabarovsk.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 20 July 2020 21: 58 New
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    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Quote: Stroporez

    And what is characteristic, the people of Furgal showed confidence, and Putin lost it at Furgal.

    And the people are already convinced that Furgal did not commit the crimes of which he is accused? And the president, I believe, got acquainted with the case file, as a result of which he lost confidence in the person involved. Everything is logical. The final point in the case will be the court.
    Or should the president not trust investigators in the case?
    You are a strange nation. As soon as Furgal threw a little candy at you, in the form of quite populist acts, you immediately tear the ass for him. And they are ready to blame the president for all mortal sins. He cut his wages, is he poorer? Become more modest?

    And how many sweets did the fixer give you personally? And nothing, but I vomit for a huge zero. The whole country was bent over the knee. And then it will be ...
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 20 July 2020 22: 12 New
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    you think people with your head and not F firstly protests are sponsored by criminals + the elite who are behind which there is a jamb + LDPR they also need it or they will win and everything seems to be clean and like the LDPR think further and it should be scary that such people make their way into power! and people are using the party and others in the dark!
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  • Kunica
    Kunica 20 July 2020 23: 30 New
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    And the rest of the governors are honest, honest. Purely on a salary everyone lives. Unless relatives of hunger do not allow.
  • rruvim
    rruvim 20 July 2020 23: 41 New
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    Here are LDPRO-vtsy - "bedding". It would be better for them, in general, not to agree to anything in protest. It is necessary that the Kremlin itself appoint "its own". And now Zherik has again agreed with the Kremlin that there will be Dektyarev, but now, like a sycophant. And Furgala "sucks" ... What kind of party is this - the Liberal Democratic Party?
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 21 July 2020 00: 45 New
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    It is unlikely that Degtyarev will take root in the region, there is no difference in belonging to the party. Popular choice and appointment are two big differences. The coming weekend will confirm or deny this appointment.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 21 July 2020 04: 59 New
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    He lost the confidence of the President, and along with him, Zhirinovsky.
  • cradle
    cradle 21 July 2020 06: 48 New
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    But look what a thing, people marry this very president either on a lasso, or for money, or for both together. But for Furgal they married independently and disinterestedly.
    The second moment, against the background of other edrosov, Furgal really looked preferable.
    And most importantly, why the hell are we discussing the actions of the Khabarovsk residents, who only defend their CIVIL RIGHTS and this is worthy of all respect, without any reason or political bias. [/ Quote]
    1) Basically people who work for the president, and they, including me, have no time to deal with rallies. Look who is more involved in rallies - librers, students and those working in such a job. Personally, I work on a shift from 3 to 6 months, seven days a week for 12 hours a day. And upon arriving home, I come to my senses for another week. A month or less at home and onward. During these days at home you need to solve a lot of accumulated issues.
    2) There are no special rallies for the president. Who is being forced there from under the stick? I'm already interested in looking at this
    3) The van LOOKED is preferable ... until the whole shnyaga is opened.
    4) Why don't we discuss the actions of the Khaborovites, in fact? Or is there censorship for this in a democratic country?
    5) And with polit. addiction (why not?). There have already begun to sound slogans (provocative of course from the libertarian party) about an independent DV. With such a development of the plot, the Chinese quickly put their eyes on them ... and they will stretch their eyes. I think - this RF (all) is not needed.
    6) So you should always think before doing any garbage. And the most reasonable thing, in this case, is to take a break and wait for the court's decision. Who will vykobenivatsya - knock on the head and force to take a break.
  • Ua3qhp
    Ua3qhp 22 July 2020 08: 45 New
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    Quote: Lannan Shi
    When are we going to plant Pasha and Mr. Shoigu?

    Pasha died in 2012, so we won't jail him.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 26 July 2020 17: 01 New
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    "You have no idea how ...." So how is it ? Like a sickle ...?