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The reaction of society and the authorities to the protests in Khabarovsk

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The reaction of society and the authorities to the protests in Khabarovsk

The protests in Khabarovsk, which have been going on for a week, could not but have reacted to local residents, central and local authorities, political parties and groups, and attempts to support in other regions.


The spontaneity of protests and their focus


The past time has shown that the protests were indeed spontaneous. At the initial stage, most likely, people from the governor's team launched this process, but, frightened by such a mass scale, they went into the shadows and try not to show themselves in any way. Feeling the support of the population, activists entered the arena, calling on people to come out to protests and launching simple symbols and posters.

The mass character is no longer the same as in the first days, but, nevertheless, sufficient to support the process that has begun. There is no doubt that in form it is, of course, a popular protest, no matter how they now shout about its custom-made nature. The population for the most part supports him, even if they do not even take to the streets. The protesters organized themselves, did not follow the lead of the extremists and provocateurs, suppress their actions themselves, do not support the slogans they put forward and do not allow rallies and protests according to their scenario. The provocateurs sent in from different parts of the country were rebuffed, and their activity was significantly reduced.

The protests are aimed, as it were, in the direction of resolving issues of regional importance, but they raise basic problems that require the central authorities to take measures to resolve them. The people were united by an excuse - the arrest of the governor, whom they had elected in a competitive struggle with Moscow's protege Shport, and his removal was perceived as ignoring their desire to have the power for which they voted. Under the pretext of supporting Furgal, they indirectly showed their disagreement with the policy of the central authorities, which disregard their opinion and pursue a policy not to meet the needs of the population, but to encourage the undivided rule of the ruling class. At the same time, the protesters do not raise questions about the country's disintegration or some kind of separatism, they just want normal conditions for their life.

The population has something to present to the authorities; in the same Khabarovsk Territory, two previous governors, Ishaev and Shport, being Moscow's henchmen, showed themselves far from the best and stained themselves in corruption. Ishaev, who was also the plenipotentiary in the Far Eastern Federal District, is still under investigation on corruption charges.

Furgal came to power contrary to the canons of the established political system, positioning himself as a man of the people. Quite objective information about him was given in an interview by one of the deputies of the regional legislative assembly. He confirmed that Furgal was very popular in the region, the governor's team competently represented him as a fighter for the interests of the region and the population. By his populist actions, such as cutting salaries for himself and regional officials, he gained prestige, as if defending the interests of the population from the arbitrariness of local and Moscow officials. At the same time, he did not have any serious successes as governor, because of his populist actions, the region's debt grew by tens of billions of rubles. According to the deputy, the protests are a reason to show the center that the choice of the region must be taken into account and the population is ready to seriously defend their interests.

It should be noted that the local and Far Eastern authorities have shown their helplessness and lack of understanding of the ongoing processes. Plenipotentiary Trutnev and the mayor of Khabarovsk Kravchuk showed a purely bureaucratic approach, which angered the townspeople. The mayor thought of accusing the protesters of participating in rallies for money, and an attempt to apologize only made the situation worse. We can confidently say that his political career ended there. Local officials, by their attitude and actions, have shown the inconsistency of their presence in these posts, unfortunately, this has become the norm for many regions, and the people see it well.

The reaction of political forces


Attempts to straddle the events in Khabarovsk were also made by representatives of the comprador liberal community. They joyfully inflated the scale of what was happening and unsuccessfully tried to integrate into this movement, but were rejected, because with their provocative appeals they were out of place there. Nevertheless, on the Web, they shouted that Khabarovsk had rebelled against the Kremlin, and called on other regions to follow this example, even promoted on the Web an excuse for rallies - “to feed the pigeons”. Full-time liberal propagandist Valery Solovey trilled in a series of videos that Russia had rebelled against Putin, presenting it as a "popular protest" against voting on amendments to the Constitution, and threatened that the current government would end in the fall. Only Vladivostok responded, only a few hundred protesters came out, and in form it was very reminiscent of a typical order. On a national scale, the calls of the liberals did not find support, these corrupt provocateurs have long been seen through and know their worth.

The rally of liberals in support of Furgal in Moscow looked parody and caricature. On Pushkinskaya Square, about a hundred paid "protesters" were gathered, and two trained young men of 18-20 years old and a young blonde repeated with memorized phrases about the support of Furgal and, as it were, inadvertently called everyone to go to Tverskaya and block it. Several women from the "city madmen" were circling around them, always ready to hold a meeting for anything and as if representing Muscovites who disagreed with the policy of the authorities. The provocation did not work, but in the evening they clashed with the police and, having filmed it, threw it into the Internet, telling everyone how the police are atrocities in Moscow and crack down on “peaceful Muscovites” who supported Furgal.

The pseudo-positional Communist Party of the Russian Federation also woke up, announced its disagreement with the authorities and held its rally in Khabarovsk on July 18. It is difficult to imagine a more anecdotal situation: several dozen party members came to the “grandiose” rally (the Communist Party announced 50 present), although there were significantly fewer in the video. Such rallies clearly show how popular this party is among the population.

Since the beginning of the protests, Zhirinovsky's party has continued to sit deep underground, remain silent, do not show itself in any way and does not even try to protect its party member Furgal.

All this suggests that attempts by various political forces to take control of the protests that had begun were unsuccessful. They passed and are passing spontaneously, there is no obvious headquarters there yet, and if there was one, they would probably already be interested in them.

Power reaction


The central authorities in Moscow are behaving in a rather interesting manner, no official statements are made, as if nothing is happening in Khabarovsk. There is not a word about the protests on federal TV channels, but every day there are stories about how Furgal is a pathological killer and the head of an organized criminal group. All the time they show the unfortunate mother of one of the murdered and denouncing comments of representatives of the Investigative Committee, while no evidence of his guilt is provided, only emotions against the accused.

Apparently, the authorities are still assessing what happened and are not taking any concrete steps. It is clear that they are not going to meet the residents of the region and bend their own line: Furgal is a murderer and should be in prison. He, of course, is not an angel, but the matter is no longer in the governor, the whole country is watching this confrontation of the rebellious population of the region. How will it end? The outcome will largely determine the process of the reforms announced by the President.

Unfortunately, no attempts are made to calm down the population, show respect for people, find a common language and extinguish the conflict. Such an ostrich policy will not lead to anything good, the problem will not go away by itself, it will have to be solved anyway. Apparently, they staked on the fact that people would rally, get tired and calm down. If no one leads the protests, so it will happen, a spontaneous popular revolt always ends in nothing.

Of course, protests can intercept political forces capable of directing them in the direction they need, but there are no such forces today. This does not mean that they will not appear in the future. With the unification of forces striving for real transformations in the country and putting forward slogans supported by the majority of the population, there will always be reasons for protests in any region. Discontent on any occasion can suddenly spill out on such a scale that it will be impossible to extinguish it, and a domino effect will begin. The central government should take into account this development of the situation and look for ways of real, and not declared, transformations that society has long awaited.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 21 July 2020 15: 04 New
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    Such an ostrich policy will not lead to anything good, the problem will not go away by itself, it will have to be solved anyway

    And this is generally the style of the guarantor .. the guarantor of that non-zeroed Constitution
    Discontent on any occasion can suddenly spill out on such a scale that it cannot be extinguished, and a domino effect begins.

    Everything goes to this .. and in general, in this situation, the guarantor should come to Khabarovsk and talk with the people .. otherwise macho .. how to fly with Siberian Cranes .. and when you really need to show participation .. not visible, not heard ..
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 15: 28 New
      -42
      A good article - today's nook for liberal hamsters with cardboard sabers rushing in virtual space to attack the "bloody" Kremlin ... Article-outlet! And then the dictator lays down the ships, lowers them into the water, makes some kind of helicopter engines ... - there is no place for the "righteous" anger of the fighters against the totalitarian regime to turn around! laughing
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 21 July 2020 15: 41 New
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        Quote: Finches
        A good article - today's nook for liberal hamsters with cardboard sabers rushing in virtual space to attack the "bloody" Kremlin ... Article-outlet!

        I even envy, looking at the fearlessness with which these hamsters rush to the embrasure of power. With what rapture they enjoy the indignation of the people. With what "courage" they are fighting Putin - just a little more ... and they will win! But they suddenly wake up and ... they are waiting for the next news, on which you can get plenty of PR. yes
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 15: 43 New
          -38
          Fighters, they are such fighters ... laughing
          1. Ulysses
            Ulysses 26 July 2020 18: 34 New
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            5 days have passed.
            Where have all the wrestlers gone?
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 July 2020 22: 11 New
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          Quote: SRC P-15
          With what rapture they enjoy the indignation of the people

          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 22 July 2020 09: 06 New
            -8
            make noise and calm down
            1. snucerist
              snucerist 23 July 2020 08: 48 New
              +8
              They might calm down ...
              Until. For a while.
              But popular discontent is not going anywhere. Moreover, it will only intensify, even in kitchen conversations.
              The most unpleasant thing for the authorities is that demands were made on the central government itself. That is why the rallies were not broadcast on TV. Don't show slogans that are unpleasant for the center?
              The bell is alarming. Furgal Furgal, but there was clearly a discontent with the center among the demands. The people are beginning to get pissed off by a policy in which money is pumped out of the regions to Moscow, redistributed there and returned back in a truncated form.
              So the protests will subside only for a while. Moreover, the acting has already managed to break the wood. He was sent to calm the people down, to stabilize the situation. To do this, it was necessary at least to talk with this people or with their representatives. Vriot immediately behaved like a Moscow master. Arrogant and arrogant. It is unlikely that Khabarovsk residents will like it.
              And this is hardly the best line of behavior for the representative of Moscow today in the dissatisfied region.
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 23 July 2020 09: 10 New
                -2
                and without distribution it is impossible in any way, half of our regions are subsidized, then the richest were the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and Krasnoyarsk Territory)))
      2. snake
        snake 21 July 2020 15: 54 New
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        Quote: Finches
        And then the dictator lays down ships, lowers them into the water, makes some kind of helicopter engines ...

        And - himself! He's using a file, a sort of Papa Carlo! That's right himself - rolling up his sleeves!
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 15: 56 New
          -39
          Now, if you had the experience of managing, at least, a soldier's department, you would not be so mocking ... However, you are unlikely to understand what I wanted to say! laughing
          1. snake
            snake 21 July 2020 16: 05 New
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            What makes you think that I have no experience in managing the department? Does it somehow correlate with licking power? Judging by you - so it is. Servant to the king, father (father ...?) To soldiers ...
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 July 2020 16: 11 New
              -35
              Perhaps there is, but it is not noticeable in your judgments that you have an idea of ​​what responsibility and management procedure are as a whole, even for a small team! And besides - I have something to compare with - how the country was ruled by Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and how the GDP is running! There are enough mistakes, but there are more positive actions than negative ones - unlike Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who did nothing positive from the word at all - they just traded in Russia wholesale and retail ... That is why I am a supporter of GDP, and who can to propose your non-systemic opposition - to Leshenka Navalny? I belittle you - you have to be insane or a jerk 20 to talk about it seriously! laughing
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 21 July 2020 18: 14 New
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                led by Gorbachev and Yeltsin
                What are you dissatisfied with? Putin awarded both of them with an order, the other the center otrohal on public money. As for the leadership of the department, Putin for some reason does not touch Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but Brezhnev, Stalin, Lenin, constantly insults. Regarding trade, under Yeltsin, the country was plundered by local Russian crooks. And now foreigners are everywhere in the management of companies.
                As for the leshenka, why won't Putin put him in jail, there is why.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 21 July 2020 18: 25 New
                  -30
                  Yes, I do not support all of his actions, but I can quite explain ... However, you still will not hear me - so I will limit myself to one phrase - I like how the country is governed by the GDP! Any more questions? laughing
                  1. ltc35
                    ltc35 22 July 2020 04: 27 New
                    -2
                    Leads can and well. I will not argue. But on the ground, the boyars-crooks take away goods in their burrows laughing , and in foreign policy ... Only Old Man holds on to us. I don't get into politics, but it comes to me by itself, because my children and grandchildren live here.
                  2. portnoy
                    portnoy 22 July 2020 05: 05 New
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                    You are Evgeny, most likely from the European part of Russia and of course everything suits you, but I am from Khabarovsk and often visit the other half of our homeland and I know the difference, the Far East has been turned into a lordly village and resources from it, people are leaving in droves, and the authorities for people's lives including our guarantor, they come up with some ridiculous development projects, to say the least, but everything is on the surface, you just have to see how they did it in the union, people went and worked here, rallies took place and are going on, and the guarantor does not care about rebel and cease with him, then in general everything is good, he is laying the ships.
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 25 July 2020 13: 45 New
                      -5
                      Sergey, please explain what you wanted to say?
                      Quote: portnoy
                      one has only to look at how they did in the union, people went and worked here, rallies were held and are going on, and the guarantor does not care about the riots and will stop with him, then in general everything is good, he is laying the ships.

                      so that people go to Khabarovsk, in Khabarovsk there must be some kind of promising production for the sake of work on which people will go there. so it was under the USSR. where does the rallies in defense of the bandit and the killer of Furgal?
                      1. portnoy
                        portnoy 11 August 2020 09: 17 New
                        -1
                        Feelings were overwhelmed by Alexander because it did not work out so harmoniously, but about the bandit and the murderer, you shouldn't hang labels in vain, talk about the fact that Furgal Far East has a family here, relatives and he did not communicate with people through his lip, and the Muscovites of the court did not pull money , he is not there now and the "rooks" have already reached out to us
              2. saigon
                saigon 21 July 2020 18: 59 New
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                But what the hell is the opposition in Khabarovsk, there are adults and Lesha is clearly not an authority for them.
                But what does Khabarovsk show?
                And he showed that political parties in our country can’t give a shit, and in general the situation does not cause fun.
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 25 July 2020 13: 48 New
                  -5
                  Quote: saigon
                  But what does Khabarovsk show?

                  it also shows that for quite a lifting amount of 3-5 million rubles, any bandit and oligarch can arrange a booth in defense of even Furgal, even Chikatila
              3. snake
                snake 21 July 2020 19: 19 New
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                Quote: Finches
                There are enough mistakes, but there are more positive actions than negative ones.

                This is your leadership experience, as I understand it? Somehow and anyhow. If only better than in 1913. The main thing is that there are more pluses than minuses.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 21 July 2020 19: 20 New
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                  You probably know your friend a measurement system? laughing
                  1. snake
                    snake 21 July 2020 19: 22 New
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                    For example: is today better than yesterday, and tomorrow is better than today?
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 21 July 2020 19: 24 New
                      -18
                      That's right - today is better than yesterday! Does the opposite suit you?
                      1. snake
                        snake 21 July 2020 19: 26 New
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                        I don’t think it’s better today.
                      2. Finches
                        Finches 21 July 2020 19: 27 New
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                        Maybe! And I am personally sure, and not only through the prism of my life experience, but in general!
                      3. snake
                        snake 21 July 2020 19: 30 New
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                        The main thing is that it should be a prism, not a crooked mirror.
                      4. Finches
                        Finches 21 July 2020 19: 35 New
                        -21
                        The main thing is to have life experience, and not unfounded populist slogans! That's when enterprises collapsed, when the army did not pay salaries for half a year, when the country was humiliated at all levels ... - where were you all? Fighters against a totalitarian regime? When the country was being dragged to national apartments and the only thing that was being built in the country was financial pyramids - where were the advocates of justice? It was in it .... And now all the brave and revolutionaries! laughing
                      5. snake
                        snake 21 July 2020 19: 42 New
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                        Quote: Finches
                        where have you all been?

                        WE thought YOU were sworn officers, keep your promise. But you washed the rolls, and now you climbed out to teach life.
                      6. Finches
                        Finches 21 July 2020 19: 45 New
                        -22
                        And I did not step back from my oath one iota - and I already wrote this to you! You may not believe it - this is your right ...
                        But here on VO I know children who could not bear the hardships and hardships of military service, ran away from service - and now they are beating themselves with a heel in the chest, saying that they could not serve the anti-popular regime! So the officer does not serve the regime, he serves the Motherland - simple young boys, ordinary people come to him and you need to think about them, most often to the detriment of your family and to the detriment of your children - but not everyone did this - this is not on the Internet with to fight the totalitarian regime! laughing
                      7. snake
                        snake 21 July 2020 19: 56 New
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                        I understood: you took care of the soldiers. And so you - Wow! Show where the crayfish hibernate. Batyanya battalion commander. I didn't hide my heart behind the backs of the guys ...
                      8. Finches
                        Finches 21 July 2020 19: 59 New
                        -20
                        You can talk as much as you like - so, in order to put an end to our dialogue - today Russia is much better in all respects than it was in 2000 and this is largely due to the GDP! Who does not understand this - they are either born after 1991 or offended by life ... I do not belong to those or to those! Therefore, I will remain in my position! hi
                      9. kyznets
                        kyznets 22 July 2020 04: 54 New
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                        And many times worse than it was several years ago. This is especially noticeable in our Far East, on the outskirts. In comparison even with the year 2000, in Kamchatka our real production (ship repair, construction) has decreased significantly. Ship repair generally fell to almost zero. The Freza plant was closed (now yachts are parked there). The shipyard collapsed. Almost only workshops remained. And this is all after 2003 already. There are also fewer fish in stores and in the market, and prices have increased significantly. The retirement age has been raised. Prices are rising, but there is no pension or salary. They promised to raise pensions by a thousand, but raised them by a couple of hundred rubles. In Kamchatka, they write an average salary of 70000 rubles, but in reality - 30-40000. This is how much someone should receive in order to get 70000 rubles "on average in a hospital". Salaries are growing only for the administration and the deputies, and for the security officials. The military and the police still live well with us. Communal 8000-12000 rubles. And it continues to grow. I'm not in favor of breaking everything now, I remember the 90s. And I don't see the best options yet to change Putin. But I live no worse than everyone else. And there are already many who have nothing to lose and who just have a bullet in their heads. And there are many of them. And the government is getting worse and more frostbitten.
                  2. kyznets
                    kyznets 22 July 2020 04: 41 New
                    11
                    In Khabarovsk, those who do not agree and want to fight MOSCOW and the oligarchy not on the Internet, but really came out. Simple people came out. Show the authorities that they no longer want to endure their lawlessness. And who are you fighting with now? With someone real, or also with internet opponents. Virtual tennis.
                2. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 22 July 2020 03: 46 New
                  -2
                  Why do officers have to rake the shit made by your "hobbyists"? Or can I remind you who destroyed the USSR? Yes, all sorts of eternally dissatisfied with various "truth-tellers" and "fighters for shit." The slogans are the same "for all the good, against all the bad", "that the CPSU will leave and we will live" ... plebian populism performed by exalted infantiles. Guys, admit that you are already stripped at 91 and already hide in the figs in history. Nobody needs you for nothing
                3. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 25 July 2020 13: 56 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Cottodraton
                  Guys, admit that you are already stripped at 91 and already hide in the figs in history.

                  unfortunately this is impossible ... it is diarrhea and it is unstoppable! wassat besides, they pay well for it wink
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 21 July 2020 21: 49 New
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    Quote: Finches
    and how the GDP manages! There are enough mistakes, but there are more positive actions than negative ones.

    He gave you an apartment in St. Petersburg and appointed a pension, that's all his business, now you owe him an unpaid debt, after all, how could a simple village boy with his own hands earn money for an apartment in St. Petersburg and manage to retire at half a month? Only the "pensioner" does not know that the same village boys still have to curry up and curry up to retirement, so that the first one will lick with a skate.
    True, it is difficult to understand the province, which is interrupted from bread to kvass, and has only seen the BDT on TV? After all, they are slaves, it is true, and they have no voice, they must silently accept torment and die right at work and die.
    Here is such a movie, Gaspadin Zyablitsev.
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 21: 52 New
      -16
      So I did something for that too! I started with ZabVO - with a tank division, at that time no one in the country heard about Putin ... Except you, probably! laughing
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 21 July 2020 22: 57 New
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        Quote: Finches
        So I did something for that too! I started with ZabVO - with a tank division, at that time no one in the country had heard about Putin.

        Eugene, you understand everything, I'm not going to belittle your merits, only your current nishtyaks were paid by the scar not from his own pocket, but from the budget, therefore, the people's money and the army does not serve the scars, but the people.
        And if this very people are not satisfied with the state of affairs and that they are constantly robbed, then why should they not be afraid to defend their rights?
        And if you alone are lucky, but a thousand others are not, and they will forever remain in this very forgotten God and scare "ZabVo", without prospects, with a salary of 20tyrs, with a sawn, burnt taiga, with coal dust and the impossibility the high cost of tickets even with one eye to look at your life in the cultural capital, although your pension you receive these taxes and minerals extracted by their hands. and they also want to live like you, but in their small homeland, and you, together with SCAR, refuse them this. Why the hell Is this right?
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 23: 11 New
          -13
          Yes, Stroporez, everything you write about is correct, but it's not about Putin! I’m starting from the fact that before Putin, there was also disgusting - here at least some positive movement happened in the country! Well, remember ... the beginning of the 90s !!! How the army was going to the first Chechen company - it's horror, but the base was still Soviet! So the politicians sold it anyway! We drove on bottles! On the second - Putin became prime minister and everything has changed ... And now strategists fly on a permanent basis, submarines ply the waves of the world's oceans. I'll tell you about the signal troops - the troops have been reduced, but already 70% of the total rearmament! Technique is expensive! The USA gasps - how did we manage so!
          Any rural guy can go to a military school, he can go to Moscow State University ... Yes! The problems of the masses and Putin is a man alive with his quirks - but in the 90s there was simply no country! It was sold! Our people are decent, they worked for free, for canned food ... but they worked! And now it’s not so! Let's not dissemble then!
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 21 July 2020 23: 43 New
            +9
            Quote: Finches
            And now it’s not so! Let's not dissemble then!

            Ugh you, well you, again for yours wassat We'll still have bread with your scare, and he is not the one he claims to be or he is given out ..
          2. Finches
            Finches 21 July 2020 23: 47 New
            -15
            So you propose me a better candidate - who is? Best the enemy of the good! Putin has proved that he is better than Yeltsin and Gorbachev, now the next person. must prove that he is better than Putin ... Who is this? Even the prerequisites are not visible!
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 July 2020 00: 11 New
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            Quote: Finches
            Putin has proved that he is better than Yeltsin and Gorbachev, now the next person. must prove that he is better than Putin ... Who is this?

            He is the best for you, but for me he is the successor of Ebna, the guardian of the family and the successor of his work on the disposal of Russia.
            I bought myself the first car in 1995 - without any mutin, an apartment in 1996, a house in a village in 1999, without mutin, I opened a company in Delaware in 1998, while I was ready to tear it apart. In 1999, the Kremlin was brought in a small, shabby, nondescript little man, I understood that the country of development was not to be seen and said, who should be found so that he would close Ebnov's crimes, give guarantees and preserve and increase the loot, and then Kursk drowned ... .., followed by "Mir", then dismembered and seized RAO UES, ... Cam Ranh ..., Lourdes .... and the sky-high price of oil is more than 140 bucks per barrel!
            For this money, it was possible to re-equip two armies, demolish and rebuild the country anew, with new cities and infrastructure from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok ...
            But instead, over 20 years, 3 trillion has been exported, we collect text messages for the children ... I don’t want to continue, I’m even sick to imagine his face, damn it
          4. Finches
            Finches 22 July 2020 00: 16 New
            -16
            You didn't run the country, no! And everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the outside ... And I judge by the facts of his management decisions through the prism of his life! I could be wrong, but for sure, I'm not as mistaken as you are! hi
            There is always a successor ... Or an heir!
            You are well done! But God bless them, with our likes and dislikes - propose a candidate instead!
          5. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 July 2020 00: 34 New
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            Quote: Finches
            suggest a candidate instead!

            First of all, the word "president" of Russia jars me, all these "measures", "pens", "administrations", "heads" and here are "governors", ugh, this is not Russian, some sort of splint. Only TIPS!
            And I can offer you or myself for the position, even if we put a cat, for example, a Siberian one, it will not be worse, she will not steal anything, except sausage, she will not have to spend 46 million a day and she has no friends! there are different cellists, judoists, Dresden and St. Petersburg colleagues.
            If you don’t believe in 146 million people, then let’s hire an anti-crisis manager from abroad, give him a salary of a couple of lams a year, and in a couple of years we will see if he’s better off or not. hi
            Pysy. Catherine at number 2, was a naughty little guy, but nothing, coped ...
          6. Finches
            Finches 22 July 2020 00: 40 New
            -13
            You know, the fact that a person has friends and like-minded people does not mean that he is a bad person! Quite the contrary! Menshikov was with Peter - a childhood friend, no matter what, and it was he and Peter who conceived the Empire .... Here VVP asked his friends to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait and they built it - the simple people only felt good about it! Is not it so?

            I would say more - if I became president, then I would appoint my friend as prime minister - because I trust him!
          7. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 July 2020 01: 03 New
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            Quote: Finches
            It was built across the Kerch Strait - the simple people only felt good about it! Is not it so?

            Do you read what you write? After all, this is a circus, not a president!VVP asked his friends to build a bridge, your division ..., like, I gathered together a scar friend-judoists and said, build a bridge for me guys, but not a bast one, and I'll give you money 5 times more than the estimate, they have a little rest. and then they said, we’ll push our efforts well, we’ll give you a little little minds and build you a bridge, only 6 times more expensive, to us great in memory and to common people in joy! , and do not know how to do a damn thing, so on the milk. "
            But for you, colleague Africa, in it there is the country of Nigeria and the city of Lagos, the Wrotenbergs do not live there and there is no our scar, but there are bridges, damn it !!! How so, cheap and beautiful bridges!
          8. Finches
            Finches 22 July 2020 01: 05 New
            -14
            Do you live in Nigeria? laughing And I am in Russia - and my president suits me!
          9. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 July 2020 01: 26 New
            10
            Quote: Finches
            Do you live in Nigeria? And I am in Russia - and my president suits me!

            Here is such an allegory after today's communication. They sit, it means, all the "microbes" in the toilet, periodically shit on them with great and small need, they wash off with water, and they climb on a slippery surface, someone is already floundering, someone is sucked in, and especially nimble ones have almost reached the seat, but only almost, like the trickles of water are small, in general, you can live ... just do not know the silly ones that when they are all taken out together, the toilet Duckling will be poured into the tank - a means that kills 99,9% of germs and bacteria (not a fig not advertising), and the tank will work at full capacity ...
    2. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 22 July 2020 03: 55 New
      -1
      May I ask if you continue to reside in Delaware?
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 22 July 2020 12: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Cottodraton
      May I ask if you continue to reside in Delaware?

      I have never lived there, the company was located there, and produced here corrugated packaging, packaging and hygiene, et. in short.
    4. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 24 July 2020 04: 58 New
      +2
      And why does the patriot-communist, judging by the comments, have a company for the exploitation of the working people, and even registered on the territory of an ideological enemy?
      Just wondering, no troll. It seemed to me that a communist businessman is like a sprat with sugar. Something incongruous ...
    5. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 24 July 2020 09: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Cottodraton
      And why does the patriot-communist, judging by the comments, have a company for the exploitation of the working people, and even registered on the territory of an ideological enemy?
      Just wondering, no troll. It seemed to me that a communist businessman is like a sprat with sugar. Something incongruous ...

      We had socialism in a single company, when it was liquidated due to insurmountable circumstances when it was liquidated on the Putin side, almost 100 working people simply cried.
  • already a Muscovite
    already a Muscovite 24 July 2020 18: 24 New
    -2
    Another Ostap-Suleiman-Berta-Maria-Bender-Bay, did not reach Rio de Janeiro ... And FSE from Putinga ...
  • NordUral
    NordUral 25 July 2020 21: 53 New
    0
    but in the 90s the country simply did not exist! It was sold!
    And now the West is beginning to take away what seems to belong to the oligarchy. I'm not talking about something that no longer belongs from the 90s onwards.
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 21 July 2020 21: 49 New
    +1
    Okay about Navalny, this clown, along with the asset, is being protected and kept only in order to discredit any dissatisfied, where there is discontent, this bitch asset is immediately there, like all the dissatisfied are piled up. In general, of course, it is understandable that those who have more funds to implement decisions decide, but it would not be necessary to openly keep everyone else in the fools.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 25 July 2020 21: 47 New
    +2
    but it is not noticeable in your judgments that you have an idea of ​​what responsibility is and the procedure of leadership as a whole, even for a small team!

    For example, such as the reinforced composition of the "lake" cooperative?
    And yet - you are already tired of this Lesha, take a wider view, maybe you will notice someone else.
  • mdsr
    mdsr 21 July 2020 16: 57 New
    16
    Quote: Finches
    Now, if you had the experience of leading, well, at least a soldier's department

    Zyablitsev, I understand you that the soldiers were commanded, and what is the biggest thing that has been implemented under your leadership? I'm just curious. I myself work as a foreman, and I have 20 to 40 people subordinate to me. In general, the company employs over 400 people. But I have never seen our chief engineer behave like you. Yes, and it would look stupid, to be honest, in front of people who are no more stupid than him, perhaps only some have less experience. And we have requirements from the technical supervision, be healthy. They try to catch hold of every little thing. All objects in Moscow and the region.
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 16: 58 New
      -17
      What is the meaning of your question?
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 17: 13 New
          -19
          I'm not quite catching up - why should I give you a report! laughing You intervened without permission in our dialogue - which we started from another branch and, being not aware of the previous one, for some reason, we began to draw conclusions! They didn't talk to you ...
          1. lucul
            lucul 21 July 2020 21: 46 New
            -3
            I'm not quite catching up - why should I give you a report! laughing You intervened without permission in our dialogue - which we started from another branch and, being not aware of the previous one, for some reason we began to draw conclusions!

            This is one of the types of manipulation - to seize the initiative and make you make excuses ...
            The bad thing is that in the USSR, types of manipulations and, accordingly, protection from them took place only in the KGB - ordinary people (ours) are completely defenseless in front of it ...
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 July 2020 21: 58 New
              -10
              And here is your comment? The person to whom I addressed, demolished his comment ... So you just made a mistake, not knowing the prerequisites. It happens! hi
              1. lucul
                lucul 21 July 2020 22: 10 New
                -4
                And here is your comment?

                Thought he was addressed to these words
                Zyablitsev, I understand you that the soldiers were commanded, and what is the biggest thing that has been implemented under your leadership? I'm just curious. I myself work as a foreman, and I have 20 to 40 people subordinate to me. In general, the company employs over 400 people. But I have never seen our chief engineer behave like you.

                It looks like a mistake .... it happens.
              2. Finches
                Finches 21 July 2020 22: 11 New
                -4
                Not! Not to this! hi
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 21 July 2020 22: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: lucul
            This is one of the types of manipulation - to seize the initiative and make you make excuses ...
            The bad thing is that in the USSR, types of manipulations and, accordingly, protection from them took place only in the KGB - ordinary people (ours) are completely defenseless in front of it ...

            On the project "Stalin's Primer": https://stalins-bukvar.ru/ there is a good book "The Art of Dispute. On Theory and Practice of Dispute" 1923 Sergey Povarnin. The cost of a paper copy is 150 rubles, any of the books they sell can be downloaded for free.
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 21 July 2020 21: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: Finches
    However, you are unlikely to understand what I wanted to say!

    What's incomprehensible, the depth of the depths
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 21: 40 New
      -10
      Greetings to the fighters! hi It was boring without you - but I am glad to welcome you and without malice!
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 21 July 2020 23: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        Greetings to the fighters! It was boring without you - but I am glad to welcome you and without malice!

        Fizkult hello, scrapoputinophiles! hi And we from the "lips" are rarely allowed to bask in the star-shaped sun laughing
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 23: 15 New
          -8
          And I sat on my lip! laughing
          1. Finches
            Finches 21 July 2020 23: 30 New
            -10
            Remembered! The control rooms of the combat group (combat training) were always refueled after exercises, etc. - full tanks! A dashing time has come and that's all - 0 point 0 tenths of fuel - but what about combat readiness? We had to keep 20 liters of gasoline and diesel fuel (there was no more) for each control room in canisters, with special hooks made of wire 6 ... And there were training - in response to an alarm, the soldiers-drivers ran to the lockers in the park, grabbed these canisters and ran to the parking lot of their equipment, they hooked onto the necks of the tanks and lowered the hoses from the fuel system to the refueling point (to long-term storage tanks), but not to disrupt the equipment output standards ... Special trainings had to be carried out on the endurance of the crews - while the standard did not change , only the situation has changed .... It was a "good" time! laughing
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 July 2020 23: 43 New
              -8
              Shishigi and 131 ZiLs, then it's okay, and 357 Ural could gobble up a canister at one plant ... laughing
  • basmach
    basmach 22 July 2020 03: 18 New
    +2
    Well, you have experience. There is no sense. You yourself do not understand what you are saying. How can others understand it!
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 21 July 2020 16: 14 New
    +6
    And, what should he himself roll up his sleeves and with a file? This is when you cannot organize the work, then go and do it yourself. What's wrong with the laid down ships and submarines?
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 21 July 2020 18: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: gurzuf
      And, what should he himself roll up his sleeves and with a file? This is when you cannot organize the work, then go and do it yourself. What's wrong with the laid down ships and submarines?

      anecdote from the USSR
      Engineering school.
      Instructor: situation, a telegraph pole fell. You have a platoon under your command. Your actions?
      Everyone starts to draw feverishly, develop diagrams ..... bring it to the teacher.
      He frowns ...
      All your actions are wrong!
      And which one is correct?
      Sergeant, raise the post!
      :)
    2. snake
      snake 21 July 2020 19: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: gurzuf
      What's wrong with the laid down ships and submarines?

      An insufficient amount. Tokmo for pants support. And to support the crumbling image.
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 22 July 2020 10: 30 New
        -2
        How many do you need? And the pants obviously fit well at the waist. There are no people willing to steal them. And yet, how much do you need?
  • cradle
    cradle 28 July 2020 05: 37 New
    -1
    Without him, you would have thrown away the files ... You might think Peter 1 built all the ships himself ...
  • Jura 27
    Jura 27 21 July 2020 16: 10 New
    -10
    [/ quote] And then the dictator lays down ships, lowers them into the water, makes some kind of helicopter engines ... - there is no place for the "righteous" anger of the fighters against the totalitarian regime to turn around! [quote]

    There is where to turn: the country is right in an excellent position to spend gigantic sums on the most economically ineffective military projects. Super-expensive UDCs are generally not needed by the common people of the Russian Federation.
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 July 2020 16: 21 New
      -5
      A typo.
      To the common people of Ukraine.
      That's right.
      1. Jura 27
        Jura 27 21 July 2020 17: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Carte
        A typo.
        To the common people of Ukraine.
        That's right.

        That's right: the common people of Ukraine and Russia do not need UDC, and at all. If you want to go to UDC, go to Syria or some Libya, then do it at your own expense, I do not mind.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 25 July 2020 14: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Jura 27
          That's right: the common people of Ukraine and Russia do not need UDC, and at all.

          uh huh. have already seen this "common people" who really wanted a burger and rocked the country .. laughing
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 16: 11 New
    38
    Quote: Finches
    Article-outlet! And then the dictator lays down ships, lowers them into the water, makes some kind of helicopter engines ...

    Eh, look how the marshals sang ... Sometimes it seems to me that you did not swear allegiance to the USSR. Oath of the President:
    “I swear, while exercising the powers of the President of the Russian Federation, to respect and protect the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, to observe and protect the Constitution of the Russian Federation, to defend the sovereignty and independence, security and integrity of the state,
    RIGHTLY SERVE THE PEOPLE. "
    So, dear man. His first duty is not to launch ships into the water, not to dive for amphoras, not to drive KAMAZ trucks with LADA-KALINS, not to fly with Siberian Cranes, not to stroke leopards and not to play hockey, but to observe his own oath, to remain faithful to the oath given to the people.
    And his most important duty is the well-being of the people and the sovereignty of the state ...
    And then the defenders of the earned guarantor got divorced ... Everyone strives to place him in the merits of duties that are not characteristic of the president ...
    Well, he did not go to the Khabarovsk Territory, so what? He came to Kemerovo when the Winter Cherry burned down and with whom did he meet? Yes, he doesn't care about the people and the people's problems ... We were convinced of the pension reform ...
    GLORY TO THE GUARANTOR! fellow
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 16: 17 New
      -33
      I am a supporter of the GDP and its actions - you are not! What is the problem? You are singing one thing, I am different - but I checked the correctness of the decisions of the GDP, and you, apparently, are just a populist! Raised the retirement age - I think this is a mistake, but this is not the sole decision of the GDP, but of the entire state machine - including the deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, for whom you most likely voted! hi
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 17: 12 New
        31
        Quote: Finches
        I am a supporter of the GDP and its actions - you are not! What is the problem?

        The problem is that I am not a supporter of false promises made publicly by high-ranking officials, but you are a supporter ...
        The problem is that I am for fair elections, for pre-election debates, for the originally set deadlines, you think that the law is that bad ...
        The problem is that I consider the exploitation of man by man for personal gain - the greatest evil, you allow slave labor and the level of wages is equal to the cost of some officials' breakfast.
        And most importantly, the problem is that not a single person in the country has the right to usurp power and oppose personal opinion to public opinion.
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 17: 41 New
          -30
          All that VVP promised me personally - it did everything! And what he promised you in public - I do not know ... but I understand that he didn’t succeed in doing something about you! You, therefore, are against, and I, therefore, are for! I see no problem!
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 21 July 2020 18: 16 New
            23
            He promised to raise and raise your retirement age?
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 July 2020 18: 17 New
              -25
              Not! As he promised me to retire after 20 years of service, he kept his word ... laughing
          2. basmach
            basmach 22 July 2020 03: 24 New
            11
            Well, and sold for a couple of buns. "The officer"
        2. TuM0305
          TuM0305 21 July 2020 19: 57 New
          18
          Zyablitsev is a paid kremlebot what are you trying to prove to him?
          1. Finches
            Finches 21 July 2020 21: 54 New
            -12
            A paid kremlebot is a strong argument! Especially when it is pronounced by TuM ...laughing
        3. builder
          builder 22 July 2020 09: 12 New
          +5
          Not an answer, but solid populist cliches.
      2. Kisa
        Kisa 21 July 2020 17: 38 New
        12
        for the correctness of the decisions - all the fuss that those decisions have long lost reality with the interests of those few living on the outskirts of the empire and as a result the rapidly emptying region - if all the patriots in Nerezinova gather where will the money for the tiles take ???
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 21 July 2020 16: 28 New
      29
      So the article matches. When the first notes about Khabarovsk went, they wrote together about the "paid" protesters.
      Now - oops! It turns out spontaneously, but in Moscow - exactly paid !!!!
      1. krops777
        krops777 21 July 2020 17: 26 New
        -21
        When the first notes about Khabarovsk went, they wrote together about the "paid" protesters.


        Personally, I think that there are no free rallies, there is always someone who calls the tune and I believe that the law enforcement agencies or the FSB got to the bottom of Furgal's dealings, because what kind of interest is Putin in this, I understand Moscow or St. Petersburg, or Khabarovsk is in the middle of nowhere.
        1. Snarkxnumx
          Snarkxnumx 21 July 2020 18: 17 New
          +5
          "Moscow or St. Petersburg and then Khabarovsk is in the middle of nowhere."
          And the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin.
          Squeezed out combine, Cupid, Barge. Bridge. The logistics are perfect.
          For children, the connection is visible.
          1. krops777
            krops777 22 July 2020 07: 11 New
            -3
            And the construction of a bridge to Sakhalin.
            Squeezed out combine, Cupid, Barge. Bridge. The logistics are perfect.
            For children, the connection is visible.


            What's this? Apparently VVP himself said to you on the phone, or have you heard enough of the failure again?
            1. Snarkxnumx
              Snarkxnumx 22 July 2020 13: 21 New
              -2
              Yes, he said that 2 + 2 = 4 ... You would have to learn a little to think, there would be no price.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 21 July 2020 18: 23 New
          11
          for what interest is Putin
          he does not give up his own, but he has to start his own.
          Khabarovsk near the devil on the kulichi.
          do you think Khabarovsk is not Russia?
          1. krops777
            krops777 22 July 2020 07: 09 New
            -1
            do you think Khabarovsk is not Russia?


            Of course, Russia is only removed from the center, and taking into account the "dense population" of Khabarovsk and the region in particular, there is no threat from there for Putin, so I think that not at the behest of the supreme, but still, law enforcement agencies got to the bottom of Furgan.
    3. NIKN
      NIKN 21 July 2020 18: 30 New
      -12
      Quote: ROSS 42
      In the exercise of the powers of the President of the Russian Federation, I swear to respect and protect the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, to observe and protect the Constitution of the Russian Federation, to protect the sovereignty and independence, security and integrity of the state,
      RIGHTLY SERVE THE PEOPLE

      And this does not include the fight against crime? Or do you think that Furgalu's accusations are biased? Maybe you have proof? Can you share? I prefer to wait for the trial without conclusions and attacks. And what jokes you when people express its point of view, what it does not agree with yours? And why so ... to fight those who do not have your point of view? A more specific thing, except how to attack someone here, you are not able to do? What is the meaning of your "righteous" anger?
    4. lucul
      lucul 21 July 2020 22: 02 New
      -10
      And his most important duty is the well-being of the people and the sovereignty of the state ...

      This is what it is - an instilled opinion, a hook on which a man is put, one of the most successful types of manipulations. When a person will hang all his adversities and failures on a certain person (an instilled anchor), but not on himself ...
      To begin with, the primary function of the state is to protect, defend and once again protect the people from external threats. But not the welfare of the people, if anything. Everyone will make his own well-being, if not a lazy person, the main thing is not to interfere with this, to cut off external threats. This stems from the entire history of mankind - from all peoples.
      And the communists, when they took everything from the people (the notorious workdays), taught the people to handouts (to salaries) that do not depend on your labor (at least 100 norms per shift, at least do nothing at all) - you will still get the same. And now this is the expectation of salaries ONLY
      from the state, and not by the results of their own labor and distinguishes the "scoop" from the rest of the world.
      This is, if you look at the problem without rose-colored glasses, but you can certainly go for a carrot under your nose (like some) - it is Putin's fault that my life did not work out, and not my own laziness ...
    5. 72jora72
      72jora72 21 July 2020 23: 52 New
      +9
      And then the defenders of the earned guarantor got divorced ... Everyone strives to place him in the merits of duties that are not characteristic of the president ...
      At the beginning of spring, my wife and I were visiting, and there one acquaintance (Rosgvardia), having relaxed after a couple of three glasses, said smiling: I got an apartment for free, and at 45 I'll retire, and you won't live to see retirement ...
    6. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 25 July 2020 14: 28 New
      0
      Quote: ROSS 42
      And his most important duty is the well-being of the people and the sovereignty of the state ...

      absolutely right! for your information oligarchs are also people, only a different class. so with the oath all the rules. request
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 21 July 2020 17: 58 New
    18
    Quote: Zyabitsev
    A good article - today's nook for liberal hamsters with cardboard sabers throwing themselves in the virtual space on the attack of the "bloody" Kremlin ..

    Evgeny. I take it you've returned to the service again? And what is something over the past half a year, you are thrown from side to side, in the comments. I was already thinking it was a sinful thing, was it free bread served? And where does the liberal hamsters? Is it bees versus honey? After all, the main liberals and swindlers in the Kremlin are from one of the St. Petersburg organized criminal groups. Well, but in his personal opinion, some bandits are trying to squeeze out shares from others ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 18: 01 New
      -20
      Yes, not where he does not leave me! I'm retired! If I don’t like something, I write that, but I have not ceased to be a supporter of GDP! Especially in the complete absence of an alternative ... laughing
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 21 July 2020 18: 13 New
        20
        Quote: Finches
        Yes, not where he does not leave me! I'm retired! If I don’t like something, I write that, but I have not ceased to be a supporter of GDP! Especially in the complete absence of an alternative ... laughing

        I respect your consistency. Although after all his antics ....? And from a sly, but there is no alternative, because she will either be smeared with feces or sent to arrest, I'm not talking about Furgal if that.
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 18: 16 New
          -14
          Come on! I would not change the GDP at all - let him rule to death, like Brezhnev - people still remember Brezhnev with a kind word, and with him, alive, everyone was joking ... So they joked ...
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 21 July 2020 18: 24 New
            +8
            Quote: Finches
            Come on! I would not change the GDP at all - let him rule to death, like Brezhnev - people still remember Brezhnev with a kind word, and with him, alive, everyone was joking ... So they joked ...

            I strongly agree with this. I am also for stability, but not negative. I'm afraid his friends, by the fall, they will again stir up some kind of pod with a ruble, they don't have enough intelligence for more. Attack yes, let him rule, if you like. And we already have a Politburo, headed by the future chairman.
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 July 2020 19: 02 New
              -8
              That's right! In the 90s of democracy, I ate so much that they still torment belching with heartburn!
  • Guba
    Guba 21 July 2020 19: 34 New
    -14
    Quote: Finches
    A good article - today's nook for liberal hamsters with cardboard sabers rushing in virtual space to attack the "bloody" Kremlin ... Article-outlet! And then the dictator lays down the ships, lowers them into the water, makes some kind of helicopter engines ... - there is no place for the "righteous" anger of the fighters against the totalitarian regime to turn around! laughing

    Well done Zhen! You know how to be short and to the point ... So they are tired of these sofa protestors here ...
    Navalny closed his FBK saying .. ALL the source has dried up !!!! heh heh
    Be careful Eugene, sorry if you are flooded .. Good luck and spirit in the fight against demons .. soldier
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2020 19: 37 New
      -11
      Thank you for your kind words! hi
      1. Guba
        Guba 21 July 2020 20: 02 New
        -13
        Quote: Finches
        Thank you for your kind words! hi

        Thank you, it's me and the other guys who owe you Evgeny .. You read your comments and somehow feel calmer in your soul .. Russia is still alive and people are sincerely loyal to her, despite all the persecution and threats there are in Mother Russia. ..
        These are the things in the tank divisions of the Urals and in general among the men .. hi drinks
        I'll go naval noodles for the Russian Navy!
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 July 2020 20: 06 New
          -9
          Good! AND drinks on business and for the Navy and the Army, it will never be superfluous! hi
          1. Guba
            Guba 21 July 2020 20: 27 New
            -8
            Quote: Finches
            Good! AND drinks on business and for the Navy and the Army, it will never be superfluous! hi

            Well, let's be Eugene drinks For Russia ! For a Strong Russia.!
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 21 July 2020 20: 40 New
              14
              Quote: Guba
              Quote: Finches
              Good! AND drinks on business and for the Navy and the Army, it will never be superfluous! hi

              Well, let's be Eugene drinks For Russia ! For a Strong Russia.!

              Meehan! It's good to do populism. For what strong Russia are you raising a glass? Which, except for the sale of resources and the chatter of crooks, can do nothing? These creatures cannot even squeak in response to the sanctions! Calm down already.
              1. Finches
                Finches 21 July 2020 21: 56 New
                -10
                And here the submarine was lowered from the stocks, the boat ..., the cosmodrome was built, the bridge, again a strategic one ... You don't want to notice the positive aspects point-blank?
  • Kochegarkin
    Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 15: 33 New
    -28
    I do not understand why the "guarantor" should go out on every occasion of the arrest of a "suspect" in organizing murders.
    The question looks like this - if the court finds Furgal guilty and determines the term of punishment, then what should the crowd answer? or here the principle - the crowd is sure, then it is true, and the fact "that there your investigators decided with the judges" is not true. Where will the crowd go if the murder case turns out to be not far-fetched, if it turns out that the Khaborovites support the murderer and the bandit, do not oppose the "Muscovites", namely, they protect the man who, for his own profit, indirectly sent several people to the grave.
    Unfortunately, people often make hasty conclusions and make irreparable mistakes in the heat of a rush. How would Khabarovsk not become a negative example of people's faith in their chosen ones.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 July 2020 15: 35 New
      25
      Quote: The Stoker
      I do not understand why the "guarantor" should go out on every occasion of the arrest of a "suspect" in organizing murders.

      Simply because in the city 50-80 tons of the population came out to support the governor and against the authorities ..
      I don’t understand why the guarantor always comes to the opening of a bridge or a hospital, but should not go with the people?
      1. Kochegarkin
        Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 15: 43 New
        -26
        once again - the people came out in support of the killer, and not in support of the bridge or hospital

        and again - after the court's decision, in which the former governor was found guilty, will the people apologize to the "guarantor" for their, not quite correct, action of "supporting" the criminal? I think no. And this already smells like a revolution. And in this case, either a harsh crackdown on rallies, or ignoring, the latter is both cheaper and more rational.

        ZY minus question - what don't you like? then that I didn't support the crowd? I personally am against ochlocracy. or the fact that I supported the "guarantor" - I am for legality ...
        1. snake
          snake 21 July 2020 15: 57 New
          21
          Quote: The Stoker
          once again - the people came out in support of the killer

          The guilt has not yet been proven.
          1. Kochegarkin
            Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 01 New
            -25
            there is no smoke without fire ...

            video from the UK with a case in which a mistake was deliberately made in the last name, instead of "Furgaл"the investigator of the Khabarovsk Investigative Committee wrote" Furgaн", given that the same document contains the correct spelling of the surname ...

            it is unlikely that he is innocent ...
            although everything can be ...

            I am ready to apologize to everyone with whom I argue and admit that I am wrong, but are my opponents ready for this?
            1. snake
              snake 21 July 2020 16: 07 New
              12
              Quote: The Stoker
              I am ready to apologize to everyone with whom I argue and admit that I am wrong, but are my opponents ready for this?

              What difference does it make what you or I are ready for? Those who act against the current government in one way or another are a priori guilty. For what they want to eat ...
              1. Kochegarkin
                Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 14 New
                -18
                Quote: serpent
                What difference does it make what you or I are ready for?

                don't tell ...
                Many, unfortunately, are not able to admit mistakes, and when the crowd "goes to storm", whether they are right or not, the crowd is always right. But if you take each individual participant and ask him, it turns out that he "seems to be like nothing, I just with everyone ... I did not know ... I believed." Everyone should realize for himself that fact. that you need to be responsible for your words and deeds.
        2. Doctor
          Doctor 21 July 2020 16: 00 New
          +4
          once again - the people came out in support of the killer,

          I'm for legality ...

          I remembered as in the 30s - to judge and shoot. lol
          1. Kochegarkin
            Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 02 New
            -12
            Quote: Arzt
            I remembered as in the 30s - to judge and shoot.

            so how?

            give me examples of illegal reprisals against people in the 30s, well, at least in the 33rd or the 36th ...
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 21 July 2020 16: 09 New
              10
              give me examples of illegal reprisals against people in the 30s, well, at least in the 33rd or the 36th ...

              laughing
              This is Manulsky's proposal at the plenum on the question of what to do with Bukharin and Ryzhkov.
              Paradox.
              If you judge and shoot, then why do you need a court?
              So it is with you - to support the killer. What if the court acquits Furgal?
              1. Kochegarkin
                Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 20 New
                -14
                A wonderful article about Bukharen and his confrontation in accusing him of anti-Soviet activities, says only that everything in 37 was done according to the "law", but not by the will of the crowd ...
                the fact that we have a moratorium on the death penalty speaks only of the weakness of the government ...
                I am for - to judge and shoot, as in the 30s
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 July 2020 16: 41 New
                  15
                  according to law"

                  So, by law, guilt is proven in court, no?
                  How could Manulsky know before the trial that Bukharin was guilty, and why are you sure that Furgal was guilty?
                  Did they say on TV? So there Chapman does not say that. fellow
                  1. Kochegarkin
                    Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 47 New
                    -14
                    why do you believe the crowd and not the TV?

                    but when I propose "according to the law," you immediately assert that it has not been proven according to the law, but the crowd knows everything ... the crowd does not need the law?

                    I wrote in the very first comment - "suspect", and asked the question - if the court makes a decision that does not justify Furgal - will the crowd recognize this decision or not?

                    if an offense is committed against any of the crowd, he will immediately run to the court and recognize any court decision (if it is in his favor), but as long as he is in the crowd, the legality is not interesting.

                    ZY I will ask again the question - will you and the crowd of protesters - accept the court's decision, whatever it may be?
                    if you do not accept a decision that does not suit you, then your opinion (you and the crowd) does not interest me a priori
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 21 July 2020 16: 59 New
                      +6
                      I wrote in the very first comment - "suspect", and asked the question - if the court makes a decision that does not justify Furgal - will the crowd recognize this decision or not?

                      Sorry, I only read the comment, where the people supported the killer.
                      As for the decision, I don't know about the crowd, I personally will support any FAIR court decision. It is clear that thugs remain thugs, no matter how good they may seem to the people.
        3. AUL
          AUL 21 July 2020 16: 21 New
          16
          Quote: The Stoker
          ZY minus question - what don't you like? then that I didn't support the crowd? I personally am against ochlocracy. or the fact that I supported the "guarantor" - I am for legality ...
          once again - the people came out in support of the killer, and not in support of the bridge or hospital

          That’s why they will minus you! The investigation is still underway, the trial has not yet taken place. And only a court can call a person guilty. So this statement of yours is slander, for which you can answer in court.
          PS Although, to be honest, the objectivity of the investigation raises certain doubts. As well as basmanny justice.
          1. Kochegarkin
            Kochegarkin 21 July 2020 16: 27 New
            -15
            Quote: AUL
            So that this statement of yours is slander, for which you can answer in court.

            good luck ....

            But it turns out like this - the crowd knows that Furgal is not guilty, and the Kremlin power is bad, and I am a slanderer, although I made a slip of the tongue and said that before the court's decision it would not be worth raising waves at all, neither protest nor information ...

            although it is not the first time for me to go against the opinion of the majority ...

            The last times will come when nine sick people will come to one healthy one and say: you are sick because you are not like us.

            Pr Antony the Great
            1. AUL
              AUL 21 July 2020 16: 37 New
              12
              Quote: The Stoker
              although it is not the first time for me to go against the opinion of the majority ...

              good luck ... laughing
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 July 2020 23: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: AUL
            That’s why they will minus you! The investigation is still underway, the trial has not yet taken place. And only a court can call a person guilty.

            Following your logic, Gorbachev was not guilty of anything then, and Yeltsin, and many others like that, there was no trial, they are slandering them. wink laughing
        4. Gargantua
          Gargantua 21 July 2020 17: 30 New
          16
          Quote: The Stoker
          once again - people came out in support the killers

          Has the jury already delivered a guilty verdict? Or did you personally see him order the murder?
          Quote: The Stoker
          not in support of a bridge or hospital

          There are so many places where people went out with requests not to close hospitals and clinics, but something didn’t come there either. request... Last year in Yekaterinburg, people massively came out in defense of their park, so no one saw Putin again there request
          Quote: The Stoker
          and again - after the court's decision, in which the former governor was found guilty, will the people apologize to the "guarantor" for their, not quite correct, action of "supporting" the criminal?

          Will this be a jury trial? If not, do you want the people to believe in the honesty of our judges, who are appointed by those appointed by Putin? What about conflicts of interest?
          Quote: The Stoker
          And this already smells like a revolution.
          The right of the people to revolt against the arbitrariness of the authorities is one of the fundamental rights of any person.
          Quote: The Stoker
          or the fact that I supported the "guarantor" - I am for legality ...

          This joke would be funny if it weren't so sad. It doesn't even smell like a "guarantor" or legality there negative
        5. Kisa
          Kisa 21 July 2020 17: 48 New
          +1
          so this killer right now is the most popular dude in the country and would easily fit Vova for the presidency. oh sorry they closed the road to politics - the governors and everything else would have won
        6. 72jora72
          72jora72 22 July 2020 13: 40 New
          -1
          and once again - after a court decision in which the former governor was found guilty, the people will apologize to the "guarantor"
          And the punishment will be "eternal quarantine" and a pension at 75?
      2. polar fox
        polar fox 21 July 2020 18: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: Svarog
        I don’t understand why the guarantor always comes to the opening of a bridge or a hospital, but should not go with the people?

        a bridge or a hospital won't ruin your face ...
    2. Jura 27
      Jura 27 21 July 2020 16: 14 New
      +7
      [/ quote] How would Khabarovsk not become a negative example of people's faith in their chosen ones. [Quote]

      The whole country, a negative example of faith in the chosen one - the resent.
      1. Kart
        Kart 21 July 2020 16: 24 New
        -9
        Yura, write about Zelensky.
        1. Jura 27
          Jura 27 21 July 2020 17: 30 New
          10
          Quote: Carte
          Yura, write about Zelensky.

          And who is it ? Your dad? I am interested in resetting his affairs, in particular his decisions in my native Khabarovsk Territory.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 21 July 2020 18: 25 New
      10
      [quote] [on every occasion of the arrest of a "suspect" in organizing the murders. / quote] how you kremlyans want to confuse people. yes Furgal has nothing to do with it. We have been told fairy tales about democracy for so many years, but here once he interfered with the Kremlin, and immediately blamed.
  • Jura 27
    Jura 27 21 July 2020 15: 44 New
    11
    [/ quote] In the Khabarovsk Territory, the two previous governors, Ishaev and Shport, being Moscow's henchmen, showed themselves far from the best way and stained themselves in corruption. Ishaev, who was also the plenipotentiary in the Far Eastern Federal District, is still under investigation on corruption charges. [Quote]

    Ishaev has never been a protege of Moscow, his slogan is "my party is the Khabarovsk Territory" and he showed himself in the best possible way, as evidenced by the new districts of the city and the implemented infrastructure projects. Until now, he will win any fair elections against any newcomer. And he is under arrest for renting out his premises to Transneft (his last place of work) for a penny amount comparable to his quarterly salary (i.e. on regional affairs, there are still no complaints against him). Sprat, already built almost nothing, skillfully sawed the grandmother (there are no complaints yet), i.e. an ordinary Putin governor is edros.
    1. Jura 27
      Jura 27 21 July 2020 15: 49 New
      +8
      [/ quote] At the same time, he did not have any serious success as governor, because of his populist actions, the region's debt grew by tens of billions of rubles. [quote]

      About dozens of lards - a lie. It was Shprot that increased the debt by dozens of lards, but it was forced, the May decrees to increase salary for doctors / teachers must be carried out, and Moscow did not give money for this and does not give it, we have to go into debt.
      1. Jura 27
        Jura 27 21 July 2020 15: 52 New
        +7
        [/ quote] Nevertheless, on the Web, they shouted that Khabarovsk had rebelled against the Kremlin, and called on other regions to follow this example, they even promoted on the Web an excuse for rallies - “to feed the pigeons”. [Quote]

        And against whom did the people revolt? Furgal's Martians were not arrested.
        "Feed the pigeons" is a local trick so that you don't get involved in organizing illegal rallies.
        1. Jura 27
          Jura 27 21 July 2020 15: 56 New
          +7
          [/ quote] Unfortunately, no attempts are made to calm down the population, show respect to people, find a common language and extinguish the conflict. [quote]

          This is an organic vice of the re-resident and his camarilla: they don’t give the people a penny and once, they will get out with a pitchfork in their side.
          1. Jura 27
            Jura 27 21 July 2020 15: 59 New
            +8
            [/ quote] If no one leads the protests, so it will happen, a spontaneous popular revolt always ends in nothing. [quote]

            This, we Khabarovsk residents, will see, for now, the new main slogan "Down with Degtyarev."
            1. Kart
              Kart 21 July 2020 16: 25 New
              -14
              Who! Kharkovites?
              1. Jura 27
                Jura 27 21 July 2020 17: 31 New
                16
                Quote: Carte
                Who! Kharkovites?

                Blind? Or Prigogine litter?
  • credo
    credo 21 July 2020 16: 07 New
    -8
    "... Everything goes to this .. and in general, in this situation, the guarantor should come to Khabarovsk and talk to the people .. otherwise macho .. how to fly with Siberian Cranes .. and when you really need to take part .. you can't see you can hear ... ".

    And it seems to me that you, like some of the residents of Khabarovsk, have overflowed emotions.
    The same author of the article points out that the two previous governors, Ishaev and Shport, were Moscow's protégés and were not noted for anything remarkable, and immediately writes that the local Furgal, chosen by the Khabarovsk residents, also did not show much success.
    The Varangians turned out to be bad, apparently because they were Varangians and were appointed from Moscow, and the local also did not achieve much success and is now also under investigation, although he was elected by his own.
    There is always a risk of making a mistake in choosing a person, whether he is even a foreigner or a local, so it is not entirely true to blame Moscow and the Guarantor for everything. It may make sense to introduce into the legislative acts on the election of high-ranking officials such sections as "Being under investigation for serious crimes", "Complete autobiography by year, with all places of study, work and official earnings of all family members, including dads and mothers, grandmothers and grandfathers "," The number of trips abroad, indicating the countries, hotels and days of visit "and other important facts from the life of applicants. Then, probably, many Khabarovsk residents would have thought about choosing Furgal, if they knew his biography in full and not in a summary.
  • svp67
    svp67 21 July 2020 17: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Svarog
    Everything goes to this ... and in general, in this situation, the guarantor should come to Khabarovsk and talk with the people ..

    Forgive me, but what to talk about? Just talk? Meaning...
    The situation is not easy. They "muddied" her even at the moment when they knew that there was a criminal past behind Furgal, they allowed him to the heights of power, and now they decided to take advantage of this, that is, that there is a clear fault of the power, "Moscow" structures. And the worst thing is that the authorities have no one to oppose to Furgal now ...
    By his populist actions, such as cutting salaries for himself and regional officials, he gained prestige, as if defending the interests of the population from the arbitrariness of local and Moscow officials.
    With his level of income from businesses, he could have given up his governor's salary altogether, but he did not ... And where can one find the same “rich man” now that he could “surpass” Furgal in this?
    1. Jura 27
      Jura 27 21 July 2020 17: 40 New
      +5
      [/ quote] And the worst thing is that the authorities have no one to oppose to Furgal now .. [quote]

      There are always people, and they are normal, but the anpirator deliberately mocks the people, and with an insolent grin.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 21 July 2020 20: 02 New
      14
      Quote: svp67
      Forgive me, but what to talk about? Just talk? Meaning...

      At least, to answer a lot of questions that citizens have .. In general, if you look for a sense, then first of all, there is no point in maintaining such an expensive president, in the literal sense, he is very expensive for the taxpayer and makes the taxpayer from year to year not poorer solving any serious issues for the citizens of the country, and if deciding, then not in favor of citizens, but in favor of their friends.
      If you mean the meaning from Putin's point of view .. then probably yes .. he has no sense and motivation to communicate with the citizens of his country, for this he has the FSO and special people who create extras and ask the necessary questions ..
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 July 2020 20: 27 New
        -4
        Quote: Svarog
        At the very least, answer a lot of questions that citizens have ..

        How do you imagine it? Have you ever had to perform in front of a crowd?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 21 July 2020 21: 19 New
          +6
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Svarog
          At the very least, answer a lot of questions that citizens have ..

          How do you imagine it? Have you ever had to perform in front of a crowd?

          I had to ... but Putin did it several times ... but the reasons were positive .. There are many examples in the world when the leaders of nations communicated with the people ..
  • blackies
    blackies 24 July 2020 18: 40 New
    -1
    eternally disgruntled bourgeoisie - intelligence
  • alone
    alone 21 July 2020 15: 06 New
    13
    No reaction from the authorities except for the dispatch of security officers and police vehicles to Khabarovsk ..
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 21 July 2020 15: 08 New
      13
      Another new governor was appointed
      1. alone
        alone 21 July 2020 15: 10 New
        13
        Quote: Kronos
        Another new governor was appointed

        This governor will do the business there, I already feel like a liver ... paint the whole of Khabarovsk with white paint)))
        1. Kart
          Kart 21 July 2020 16: 26 New
          -17
          The organizers of the "protest" can be painted blue to begin with.
          1. Jura 27
            Jura 27 21 July 2020 17: 34 New
            +7
            Quote: Carte
            The organizers of the "protest" can be painted blue to begin with.

            I fully support you, take a bucket of paint and a brush and move out to paint the putin and his billionaire thief friends blue.
    2. svp67
      svp67 21 July 2020 20: 28 New
      -1
      Quote: lonely
      No reaction from the authorities except for the dispatch of security officers and police vehicles to Khabarovsk ..

      I understand that from Azerbaijan it is better seen ...
      1. alone
        alone 21 July 2020 21: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        I understand that from Azerbaijan it is better seen ...

        Well, if you know at least one statement of the President of the Russian Federation on this issue, I am happy to read this statement.
        PS I do not understand one thing. If I am from another country, then I have no right to express here what everyone knows? I don’t advise what to do in this situation. This is your problem. I just stated a fact.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 21 July 2020 15: 11 New
    -13
    Zhirinovsky used the crowd to ensure that the percentage in his pocket from the sale of everything and everything in Khabarovsk would not dry out. With the appointment of a new leader, the issue was resolved (according to the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, Mikhail Degtyarev, he considers "one of the best deputies of the State Duma") - he will continue to receive his, most likely not in the same amount as before. The protests will end there and he doesn't care about Furgalo and the people.

    I wonder how many people, for the sake of Zhirinovsky's well-being, will end up in hospital beds with the coronavirus ... And all this was organized not by the richest man in Russia ...
    1. saigon
      saigon 21 July 2020 19: 09 New
      +8
      Forgive me, however, Volfych managed to do it thinly in this situation.
      Look in the tyrnet about the new character on the governorship they have already spent a lot and, to put it mildly, the citizen is not particularly smart, some of the statements are simply masterpieces.
  • Olegater
    Olegater 21 July 2020 15: 12 New
    19
    In general, as expected, the protests in Khabarovsk wanted to use each with its own key. But I must say that this protest, being spontaneous, did not become a moment of glory for someone, as the objects in this article wanted. People only respect, did not succumb to provocations.
    In general, the authorities need to think hard about what they are doing and how, and whether they are doing something for the people. Bending and stripping the threads is easy.
    Issue a law or plant an objectionable leader chosen by the people. And then many regions will start protesting. No zomboy will help.
    1. saigon
      saigon 21 July 2020 19: 13 New
      +4
      You will not believe if tomorrow our Krasnoyarsk governor will be packaged for anything, even for example, for friendship with the Martians, well, not for what kind of gingerbread people will not go out like that.
      And the one who is also chosen.
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 21 July 2020 15: 15 New
    21
    The central authorities in Moscow are behaving in a rather interesting manner, no official statements are made, as if nothing is happening in Khabarovsk.

    The reaction is standard for our guarantor. In a really crisis situation. Like a five-year-old. He hid in a corner, that's all. I'm in the house, I'm not there. That was exactly the same when it was necessary to take tough measures against the virus. Our helmsman is not able to manage the galley, due to his moral will, only to row, and even then ... Without a whip, he shirks.
    And the situation is yes, the crisis. Even if it doesn't seem like that at first glance. For the second time in 3 months the people are spontaneously opposing the government. And yes. It is against the authorities, not for the van. And it's really difficult to steer. You can't press hard. The risk of blazing is present. Make concessions? The accomplices will not allow, the feeder is not bottomless, and so compound feed has been in short supply lately .. So there is no reaction. Because there are no simple options, but complex ones ... The wrong type is our guarantor, for 20 years no breakthrough decisions have been noticed for him. Not a genius, to put it simply. And not even remotely similar.
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 July 2020 16: 29 New
      -23
      Almost a victory?
      You are really funny.
  • arlekin
    arlekin 21 July 2020 15: 17 New
    21
    I will transfer my post here from a neighboring topic.
    The king is making fun of what? He sent a party apparatchik, from an early age in parties and political movements, he lived to be 40 years old, and did not hold anything heavier than a sword, never managed an enterprise, did not create his own business. How will he lead the Khabarovsk Territory? Slogans and propaganda, as you used to?
    P.S. B-s, he is also a writer "From the autocracy of the individual to the autocracy of the emperor." We are a scribe.
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 21 July 2020 18: 01 New
      +3
      in such a difficult region, this 39-year-old Salabon kid will not pedal on his own there - everything that needs to be lowered from above - the covid raged everyone to their homes. dough will be thrown for breakfast for teachers. the municipal budget will be leveled ... a year before the elections will probably last. then, as if others did not rise up - the economy is in a steep dive
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 22 July 2020 10: 07 New
      -4
      The king is making fun of what?
      then he sent to the Khabarovsk people to see the sky with nothing and then put the faithful Putin-United Russia member. Although who knows, they laughed at Klitschko and Kiev is
  • Woodman
    Woodman 21 July 2020 15: 17 New
    -23
    Unfortunately, no attempts are made to calm down the population, show respect for people, find a common language and extinguish the conflict. Such an ostrich policy will not lead to anything good,
    It was publicly announced why Furgal was removed from office, what else is needed? Just the same "old-fashioned policy" would be to follow the protesters and return the person accused of murder to the post of governor.
    At the initial stage, apparently, people from the governor's team started this process

    The mass is no longer the same as in the first days,

    Only Vladivostok responded, only a few hundred protesters came out, and in form it was very reminiscent of a typical order.

    several dozen party members came to the “grand” rally (the Communist Party announced 50 present), although there were significantly fewer in the video.

    but with all that
    There is no doubt that in form it is, of course, a popular protest.

    An interesting conclusion ...
    By his populist actions, such as cutting salaries for himself and regional officials, he gained prestige, as if defending the interests of the population from the arbitrariness of local and Moscow officials. At the same time, he did not have any serious successes as governor, because of his populist actions, the region's debt grew by tens of billions of rubles.

    And it was planned to give back, probably, those who come after Furgal ... And with debts, after all, how ... "You take someone else's and not for long, but give yours and forever."
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 21 July 2020 15: 39 New
      16
      Quote: Lesovik
      Just the same "old-fashioned policy" would be to follow the protesters' tastes and return the person accused of murder to the post of governor.

      Well, yes. Especially when you look at the "skilful" interviews on Russia-24, the accusations are already trembling. Most of all I like the "proofs" that are shown by journalists (God forgive me), a few photos of which Furgal with allegedly Prosecutors, chiefs of police, criminal investigation department and others who "covered" him at that time ... True, not a single name of the "covered" was named, well, it's little things. The main thing is that the person was declared a criminal before the trial. Well, some kind of presumption of innocence, why some kind of court, after all, our TV channels are clear ...
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 21 July 2020 16: 01 New
        -14
        Quote: Fitter65
        The main thing is that the person was declared a criminal before the trial.

        Who announced? Journalists? That's how I heard that the charge has just been brought.
        Quote: Fitter65
        ... Most of all I like the "evidence" that journalists demonstrate

        The evidence is demonstrated in court, as far as I understand this system, and everything that journalists give out before the trial is just a version.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 21 July 2020 16: 28 New
          14
          Quote: Lesovik
          and everything that journalists give out before the trial is just a version.

          Versions are when suggested, not when they are asserted.
  • arlekin
    arlekin 21 July 2020 15: 23 New
    21
    The central authorities in Moscow are behaving in a rather interesting manner, no official statements are made, as if nothing is happening in Khabarovsk. Not a word about protests on federal TV channels

    Don't go to the Internet at night
    And don't poke your cursor at it.
    There is no Khabarovsk!
    Outside the Urals - ANYONE at all.

    Beyond the Urals - sad and quiet,
    Not to be seen: no work, no fruit.
    There are mosquitoes, sea buckthorn,
    And no cities at all.

    Don't break the monitors and the server
    Anyway, silence in response,
    The North is beyond the Urals,
    And the Ural is the Ice Wall.

    There is a desert of Sorrow and Fear,
    The ocean, and beyond it - emptiness.
    And the Turtle is a little visible,
    And Keith's huge ass.

    It's a cold, boring place.
    Whoever thinks otherwise is a villain.
    There is no shadow of protest to be seen
    For there is no - for protest - people.

    Protest squares and streets
    Beyond the Urals - you can't find with fire,
    Even a couple of skinned hens
    To go to the rally with them.

    No water, no asphalt, no food,
    And the forests are burning everywhere.
    Well, what are the “thousands of protests”?
    Do not tell who they say?

    Photos, blogs, articles?
    And from the protests - a live report ???
    These are all provocations, fakes
    And worker-peasant montage

    In the cramped moldy basement,
    Gathering bread for caviar,
    These fakes are drawn by Navalny
    And Khabarovsk - came up with the State Department.
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 July 2020 16: 31 New
      -24
      Oh, there are mediocre poets among yours.
      It just won't help, it's a rotten thing for you.
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 21 July 2020 15: 28 New
    25
    At the same time, he did not have any serious successes as governor, because of his populist actions, the region's debt grew by tens of billions of rubles.
    The author carefully study the materiel, in two years the debt of the Khabarovsk Territory has DECREASED ... in March 2019, the Khabarovsk Territory became the leader in the Far Eastern Federal District in terms of the volume of public debt. The debt was 55 billion rubles. By May, the region managed to slightly reduce its debt - to 52,7 billion rublesWas it really bad at school with mathematics?
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 July 2020 15: 38 New
    14
    The central government should take into account this development of the situation and look for ways of real, and not declared, transformations that society has long awaited.

    Yeah, wait for them, keep your pocket wider. They sucked like bugs to the cash flow and will never fall off themselves.
  • apro
    apro 21 July 2020 15: 52 New
    +5
    For me, both Furgal and his opponents of the same field of berries ... one was planted by the second in the winner ... but based on the realities of today, they can easily swap places ... they act with the same methods. Can the protege of capital act in the interests of the population? no, his interest is monetary, but money is not people.
  • prior
    prior 21 July 2020 15: 55 New
    14
    There is no Zhirinovsky party, there is no CPRF party.
    There are "worms" stuck to the state feeding trough, as well as United Russia.
    Whose interests are they protecting there?
    Well, really ours ?!
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 July 2020 16: 33 New
      -18
      Whose is yours?
      Who do you represent? Is it really "people" again?
  • ont65
    ont65 21 July 2020 16: 05 New
    +1
    He united people ... but what actually brought those who went out into the street so suddenly? Legal claims against the governor? Rave. No governor will even spit if similar claims appear against any of us. For me, they would have changed everyone, I know - horseradish will be no sweeter radish and I don't care about any of them for the most part. We rotate in non-intersecting planes. What then? Maidan men from his personal retinue whistled accountable and staged a massive mess? Why not? The people were also driven to vote by their own people. Both technologists and technologies remained, but now they are boomerang at the authorities. All brothers will return!
  • zontov79
    zontov79 21 July 2020 16: 22 New
    +5
    Hopefully the protests won't subside!
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2020 16: 31 New
    -5
    My virtual friend Yuri Mikhailovich is an honest and principled person who is not often met today. He can honestly be mistaken and make mistakes if he has not really understood something, but he will never lie, distorting the truth, speak and write under the order of certain people, parties and movements. They say about such people: flint.
    I agree with this article by Yuri Mikhailovich, although there are a couple of annoying mistakes: he figured out what was happening well and presented everything correctly. Although, of course, we do not say everything and do not name the main reason - the spark that ignited the protests, and the high names of the "heroes of the occasion." For some reason I think that Yuri Mikhailovich wrote this too, but the editor crossed it out.
    This article almost completely reflects the truth about which my Khabarovsk friend Alexander wrote to me. He is sooooo skeptical about everything that has been written about the Khabarovsk protest earlier.
  • wow
    wow 21 July 2020 17: 26 New
    -4
    So what !? It is normal - protests and support and "agreements" .... But, more recently, some part of the population of Germany also supported someone, splashing saliva. Eventually - .... . Think "supporters" with your head, not the place to which you get paid!
  • Karabin
    Karabin 21 July 2020 18: 38 New
    13
    The central authorities in Moscow are behaving in a rather interesting manner, no official statements are made, as if nothing is happening in Khabarovsk.

    So Putin's proprietary strategy is to sneak under the bench during exacerbations, maybe it will resolve itself. It did not dissolve. And what is especially inconvenient is the spontaneous protest. There are no clear leaders. There is no one to personally record either as agents of the State Department or as criminals. Here it would be to take advantage of the recent "triumph of public support" (C). Surely in Khabarovsk, the support figures for the amendments are no less triumphant. But no. Instead of addressing directly his Far Eastern admirers (I’m not talking about the triumphant’s arrival at the place of the problem), Putin chose some kind of clown with a deputy crust and appointed acting director. As it is illogical.
    PS Maybe there was no triumph?
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 21 July 2020 20: 52 New
      -6
      Quote: Karabin
      So Putin's proprietary strategy is to sneak under the bench during exacerbations, maybe it will resolve itself. It did not dissolve.


      Gorbachev did not dissolve.

      Khabarovsk will calm down within a couple of weeks.

      And yes, you can minus even to the point of use, this will not change the course of events.
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 21 July 2020 21: 18 New
    +5
    I was surprised by the absolute control over all media. bully
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 21 July 2020 23: 16 New
    -3
    I don't associate governors with purity and integrity. So there is no worries about them. And if anyone wants to make noise, let them, I have enough other things to do. hi
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 July 2020 16: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Tank Hard
      I don't associate governors with purity and integrity.

      Those minuses that came to me for this, apparently from the crystal clear governors. laughing
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 21 July 2020 23: 30 New
    +8
    Quote: Finches
    All that VVP promised me personally - it did everything! And what he promised you in public - I do not know ... but I understand that he didn’t succeed in doing something about you! You, therefore, are against, and I, therefore, are for! I see no problem!

    Here he publicly, to the whole world, promised that while he is the President - I - here I am personally - will retire at 60 wassat

    And now I just won't live up to retirement - I'm a realist, God forbid, I will make it to 62-63 in health ... recourse

    And here I am for such a person who deceived me in the most important thing in my life - I thought that working like Pope Carlo with a white salary of 100 thousand rubles, even in retirement I would feel like a man, I would look at the world and show myself laughing - and for such a person who deceived me in the most important thing - should I "drown" ?! bully Yes, for me a person is either respected or not
  • Karampax
    Karampax 22 July 2020 00: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Perhaps there is, but it is not noticeable in your judgments that you have an idea of ​​what responsibility and management procedure are as a whole, even for a small team! And besides - I have something to compare with - how the country was ruled by Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and how the GDP is running! There are enough mistakes, but there are more positive actions than negative ones - unlike Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who did nothing positive from the word at all - they just traded in Russia wholesale and retail ... That is why I am a supporter of GDP, and who can to propose your non-systemic opposition - to Leshenka Navalny? I belittle you - you have to be insane or a jerk 20 to talk about it seriously! laughing

    The GDP and its system of power, which he cherishes and cherishes more abruptly than his own children, did everything so that, except for the "duty" Navalny, there was no one left in the political arena. This is clearly a deliberate move aimed at eliminating any political opponents in the country. Although here I partially agree with him only to figure out what forces are persecuted by those who are for the people or for the golden calf?
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  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 22 July 2020 00: 52 New
    0
    The moment of truth for Khabarovsk. With Furgal now officially suspended, there is no turning back. Surname and .about. it does not matter - this is a person "for show" who will transmit orders from the Center.

    Worst of all, I have a suspicion that while Furgal's status was unclear, no one dared to take responsibility for ordering the riot police to begin military action against the protesters. And now, when the Khabarovsk Territory has a formal governor, such orders may come ...

    Everything will be decided literally before the end of the week. Or a corresponding order will be given, and it will be like in Moscow. Or Khabarovsk will stand to the end, but then it will no longer be just a rally "for Furgala", but an unambiguous "hands off Khabarovsk."
  • kig
    kig 22 July 2020 02: 16 New
    0
    So what exactly do the protesters want? So it is not clear. Let go and return Furgal? And they don’t realize that there must be reinforced concrete conditions for the arrest of the governor? It would be better if they demanded to figure out how a person with such a past was able to crawl into power and suited everyone in everything for 15 years. Understand and report.
    1. And why do you need
      And why do you need 22 July 2020 08: 41 New
      0
      They want a fair trial, they want a local acting, an improvement in living standards, and the same thing that Muscovites have.
  • flicker
    flicker 22 July 2020 02: 31 New
    -5
    The central authorities in Moscow are behaving in a rather interesting manner, no official statements are made, as if nothing is happening in Khabarovsk. Not a word about protests on federal TV channels

    Yes, these protests are not interesting to anyone - that TV channels do not show them.
    The protests ... the author, I would be ashamed to call them that, the audience goes out as on May 1, with children, balloons, smiling, shouting out "freedom to Furgalu" and then marching with smiles on their faces.
    On the last Saturday, there was a circus at all, they allegedly said 60 thousand (although more people come to a football match - I don't think that the stadium in Khabarovsk can hold more than 60 thousand)
    So, out of the declared 60 thousand, about 2 thousand people reached the government building of the HC.
    Question: where did the remaining 58 thousand go?
    They were either not there, or they just checked in, and then they sent the whole procession into three letters and went about their business.
    ---
    What is there to show on TV?
    ---
    The van is a killer and should be in jail. He is certainly not an angel, but ...
    But this is such a small thing, right?
    the whole country is watching.
    The country has nothing more to do? If they are watching, it is the Khabarovsk people themselves, who are already beginning to get bored with these processions.
    So this is too much said:
    behind this confrontation of the rebellious population of the region
    "Rebel" ?! - this is when smiling with balloons and children go?
    ---
    Soon no one will even remember about this Furgal. Nothing personal just business. Who is in prison, and who is to increase the business. bully
  • Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 22 July 2020 03: 34 New
    -2
    Judging by the minus of everything and everyone, as well as the bombing at the level of the tsar of the bomb, local wrestlers, "Russians" and other anarchists went out themselves and took all their 100500 accounts for a walk. "Courage-Bombay")
  • aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 22 July 2020 03: 40 New
    +3
    The authorities did not come up with anything new, they bribed the elite and the security officials with salaries and retirement benefits, while the rest are "losers, offended by life." Divide and rule.
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 22 July 2020 09: 48 New
    -2
    interesting about the national debt
    The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation has published data on the state debt of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation as of February 1, 2020. Khabarovsk Territory significantly increased its debt burden - the state debt of the region amounted to more 54,9 billion rubles, a REGNUM correspondent was told at the RF Ministry of Finance.

    in the Belgorod region:
    the state debt of the region by January 2020 is planned to be reduced by 2,3 billion rubles - to 32,8 billion rubles

    Everyone is in debt as in silks
  • AleBors
    AleBors 22 July 2020 09: 50 New
    -2
    The Khabarovsk events show the utter impotence of all political parties and the alleged opposition. Likewise, a lack of understanding and inability to resolve conflict situations by the real authorities .. But whether by the authorities?
    Regarding the increase in the scale of the protests, hardly. There is no one to lead, no sane oppositionists are visible. And the population for the most part is still "masked" ...
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 22 July 2020 11: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Such an ostrich policy will not lead to anything good, the problem will not go away by itself, it will have to be solved anyway

    And this is generally the style of the guarantor .. the guarantor of that non-zeroed Constitution
    Discontent on any occasion can suddenly spill out on such a scale that it cannot be extinguished, and a domino effect begins.

    Everything goes to this .. and in general, in this situation, the guarantor should come to Khabarovsk and talk with the people .. otherwise macho .. how to fly with Siberian Cranes .. and when you really need to show participation .. not visible, not heard ..

    What is the discontent of which people? There, 300 "hamsters" walk in circles around the city, and make photos from different angles, the locals themselves have already started chasing them, due to the fact that they block the roadways, stuffed animals are cheap.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 22 July 2020 11: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: SRC P-15
    With what rapture they enjoy the indignation of the people


    Even children already know how these "actions of many thousands" are organized, 200 people shouting memorized slogans, filming from different angles, circus tent and stuffed animals with posters ..
    1. kig
      kig 28 July 2020 15: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Senka Naughty
      Even children already know how these "actions of many thousands" are organized, 200 people shouting their memorized slogans are filmed from different angles

      let's say. Then, even if children know, then you should know how such photos are taken.



      Can you tell?
  • iouris
    iouris 22 July 2020 15: 00 New
    +1
    There is no "society", but the "reaction of society" is being analyzed. It is interesting. Or maybe these are still the reactions of something else?
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 23 July 2020 15: 12 New
    0
    Quote: snucerist
    They might calm down ...
    Until. For a while.
    But popular discontent is not going anywhere. Moreover, it will only intensify, even in kitchen conversations.
    The most unpleasant thing for the authorities is that demands were made on the central government itself. That is why the rallies were not broadcast on TV. Don't show slogans that are unpleasant for the center?
    The bell is alarming. Furgal Furgal, but there was clearly a discontent with the center among the demands. The people are beginning to get pissed off by a policy in which money is pumped out of the regions to Moscow, redistributed there and returned back in a truncated form.
    So the protests will subside only for a while. Moreover, the acting has already managed to break the wood. He was sent to calm the people down, to stabilize the situation. To do this, it was necessary at least to talk with this people or with their representatives. Vriot immediately behaved like a Moscow master. Arrogant and arrogant. It is unlikely that Khabarovsk residents will like it.
    And this is hardly the best line of behavior for the representative of Moscow today in the dissatisfied region.

    I, 10 years old as a Muscovite, infuriates that next to the house several times a year they change a good curb, and when you drive away from Moscow you see a curb broken into trash. Can't you do it there for the money that is being changed next to my house? One laundering
  • Mechanic
    Mechanic 24 July 2020 15: 53 New
    0
    Zadolbal already this Furgal, only the lazy one did not write about him. And the scribblers have probably never visited the Khabarovsk Territory, but they know better from Moscow what is going on here
  • Alexey Z
    Alexey Z 24 July 2020 21: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Not! As he promised me to retire after 20 years of service, he kept his word ... laughing

    And he threw the rest.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 26 July 2020 14: 33 New
    0
    in the same Khabarovsk Territory, two previous governors, Ishaev and Shport, being proteges of Moscow,

    Author why are you smoking there ??? Both of these governors are LOCAL, Ishaev is a Khabarovsk resident, and Shport is a Komsomol resident, but Furgal from the Amur Region, it seems, is also a Far East, but not quite local! But the appointed v.r.i.o. is this TRUE protege of Moscow.
    And protests are only in the wet dreams of liberals. Several clowns with downs hugging are not protests of the townspeople, for understanding I will remind you that officially there are 620 inhabitants in Khabarovsk, but they say that these are only accounted for by official statistics, but in reality there are more inhabitants. And those who came out - these are BEZDELIKS who decided to cut a pretty penny for going to the rally, this is practiced everywhere - pay, and a crowd will come out against the greens for the blue ones. Khabarovsk residents are deeply PURPLE all this hypocrisy.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 28 July 2020 11: 56 New
    0
    Here the country will make fun of both Yeltsin and Gorbachev. Putin's future successor. As Medvedev updated version. ios has been updated. Until minus 11, the version was given a bit of a swing. What to do Technology is degrading as a result of US sanctions wassat