Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt

75
Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt

The former head of the Odessa region of Ukraine, who is also the former president of Georgia, announced the possibility of revenge of the political forces of Petro Poroshenko. According to Mikheil Saakashvili, a certain part of local officials are preparing as a "secession from Ukraine" against the background of the fact that another part of politicians is going to re-settle in Kiev.

According to Saakashvili, the actions of the current Ukrainian officials could lead to the complete disappearance of the Ukrainian state.



We will remind that earlier Saakashvili fled from Ukraine, and after the beginning of the presidency of Vladimir Zelensky returned to the country and soon received the post of head of the executive committee of the National Council of Reforms.

Saakashvili called the local authorities in Ukraine "feudal lords who rave about fat, having gotten the entire budget in their hands."

According to the ex-head of the Odessa Regional State Administration, the local authorities "will steal the bulk of the budget, and create their own armies for the rest."

Saakashvili:

Here (in Odessa) there is a municipal guard, just ordinary thugs who walk in uniform and with weapons, and funded from the budget.

At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.

Saakashvili:

In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt.

  • Facebook / Saakashvili
Our news channels

Subscribe and stay up to date with the latest news and the most important events of the day.

75 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +8
    20 July 2020 06: 08
    At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.
    In my opinion, everything goes on this in itself!
    Zelensky quickly and effectively creates an image of a de-bil.
    Poroshenko, of course, is the laying of eggs of lice (in the letter G) and a thief, but he managed to RULE the state. He was a puppet of only Americans (though he put the wrong horse on that horse). He was not dependent on Ukrainian oligarchs.
    And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.
    Well, the ranking of the Servant of the people must flow somewhere. Gunpowder will fall too.
    1. +12
      20 July 2020 07: 19
      Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt
      The article does not cover the topic of "the form of Ukraine", which Mishiko said. No.
      Did he mean the complete degradation of the state will and its replacement by the Nazi-Bandera ideology that finally and decisively split the country?

      Moreover, I am writing not about leaving us, the DPR and the LPR, which has already been accomplished long ago and irrevocably, but about a deeper split in ex-Ukraine itself, which became more apparent after 73% of Ukrainians did not come true for changes with the arrival of V.A. Zelinsky.
      1. +4
        20 July 2020 08: 01
        Quote: Insurgent
        The topic is not disclosed in the article.

        The topic was disclosed in detail in three videos by Shkolnikov - I already posted the links. There are detailed and detailed. In an easily accessible form.
        The current degradation and subsidence of the central Kiev authorities, the strengthening of the status of the regions are obvious. Let's see what the local elections will show in the fall, but most likely they will lead to a further strengthening of the regions up to ... right up to anything.
        1. +12
          20 July 2020 08: 05
          Quote: Private-K
          Let's see what the local elections will show in the fall, but most likely they will lead to a further strengthening of the regions up to ... right up to anything.

          On the outskirts themselves, there is a lot of noise about a possible rebellion of regional elites ", and about the creation (strengthening) of their own armed units by clans to" win back a bit of power "...

          Here is such a chaos scenario, we would be quite happy Yes
          1. +4
            20 July 2020 08: 58
            I think this option is wonderful for him, and it would be easier for Russia to complete what was finally begun!
          2. 0
            20 July 2020 10: 49
            Quote: Insurgent
            Here is such a chaos scenario, we would be quite happy
            Is it simple?
            We will be satisfied if the voters wake up "there" and understand that the choice of calmness, integrity, independence and stability is not dependent on the redecoration of the authorities. The principle “we vote against the situation in the country” has not justified itself. We will be satisfied with the choice in favor of the opposition platform "For Life"!
            1. +4
              20 July 2020 12: 06
              Quote: Vladimir61
              Is it simple?
              We will be satisfied if the voters wake up "there" and understand that the choice of calmness, integrity, independence and stability is not dependent on the redecoration of the authorities. The principle “we vote against the situation in the country” has not justified itself. We will be satisfied with the choice in favor of the opposition platform "For Life"!

              You think in terms of the measured peaceful life in Russia, and I think in our categories, according to which TIME IS VICTIMS.
              1. +4
                20 July 2020 12: 42
                Quote: Insurgent
                You think in terms of the measured peaceful life in Russia, and I think in our categories, according to which TIME IS VICTIMS.
                I, until recently, lived there myself, and my parents are there now, on the "Minsk line". And I know what shelling and casualties are not from TV reports! And the uncontrollable "chaos" in a country where nationalists and thugs of all stripes set the tone, with the public lack of political will in the Russian Federation to recognize the DLNR, will just pour out "bitter tears" for the citizens of the DLNR.
                1. +3
                  20 July 2020 12: 49
                  Quote: Vladimir61
                  And the uncontrollable "chaos" in a country where nationalists and thugs of all stripes set the tone, with a public lack of political will in the Russian Federation to recognize the DLNR, will pour out "bitter tears" for the DLNR.

                  I strongly disagree. When the war starts there (even if the massacre, do not care Yes ) all against all, they will no longer have time for us.

                  Remember the November 1918 revolution in Germany, when the "II Reich" collapsed ...
                  The occupying troops of the Reichswehr in Ukraine did not really want to leave, but they were forced to do so. OWN HOUSE BURNING ...
                  1. +3
                    20 July 2020 14: 40
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Remember the November 1918 revolution in Germany, when the "II Reich" collapsed ...
                    The occupation troops of the Reichswehr in Ukraine did not really want to leave

                    The Germans themselves may have gone home early, but ANTANTA forbade them to leave and obliged them to continue the occupation
            2. +1
              20 July 2020 20: 32
              Vladimir, the Opposition Platform for Life (Oppositional Platform for Life) party is a "child of the Party of Regions" - when they come to power, they will "squeeze" out of Russia "soft loans", gas discounts, lucrative contracts ... and WILL SOLUTE on another Maidan. "soft loans" - remember Yanukovych's three rubles sad ". About Mishiko tongue (M. Saakashvili) - regrets that he was "left" from the governors of the Odessa region - "new Georgia" will not work ...
          3. +1
            20 July 2020 14: 36
            Quote: Insurgent
            On the very edge of the noise about a possible riot of regional elites

            The maximum possible in the coming years is the further pulling of blankets by regional princes to themselves as part of Ukraine. Zelensky will continue to retreat and further weaken the Center. Therefore, no one will run anywhere.
            But after Zelensky, an amateur may come to tighten the nuts and collect all the power in their hands.
            Here the regionals will howl, grip their teeth in acquired overwork and anything is possible.
            But even here, in order for changes to take place, pleasant to us, we need to work hard and competently. And start today, but better, yesterday.
      2. +2
        20 July 2020 12: 23
        after unfulfilled hopes 73% of Ukrainians ... be careful with the interest because the Kiev junta does not even know how many citizens are left in the ruins .. the interest will be calculated on the basis of known values, then bizh, here is a ton of grain. such a percentage of high gluten, such a percentage of low and such a percentage of feed grains. the key is a ton of grain ... and what is in the wreck ???? there is no key and is not foreseen in the foreseeable future
        1. +2
          20 July 2020 12: 41
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          after unfulfilled hopes 73% of Ukrainians ... be careful with the interest because the Kiev junta does not even know how many citizens are left in the ruins .. the interest will be calculated on the basis of known values, then bizh, here is a ton of grain. such a percentage of high gluten, such a percentage of low and such a percentage of feed grains. the key is a ton of grain .....

          I write about 73% of the votes cast in the outskirts in the elections for peace, against parAshenko, for the hope of change, and what are you talking about?

          KIEV, 23 Apr - RIA Novosti. Volodymyr Zelenskyy won 73,22 percent of the vote in the second round of the presidential elections in Ukraine, the incumbent head of state Petro Poroshenko - 24,45 percent. Such data were published on the scoreboard of the Central Election Commission after processing 100 percent of electronic protocols.


          https://ria.ru/20190423/1552980787.html
          1. 0
            20 July 2020 13: 31
            , and what are you talking about? ...... about the facts, I trust the figures, at the time of the elections, the ze-po were based on the population census during the Yanyka. it was 37 millenes. another simply no statistics, .. now the chip, minus Crimea 2 miliens, minus LDNR 8 miliens, minus gersters in the Russian Federation about 10 miles minus givers in the EU about 3 miles the right to vote, now further .. to summarize ... 23 miles out of 37, as a result, we have 14 miles left, of which the right to vote is divided by two, this is 7 miles. even though those 7 milion voted it is 18 percent (and even lower) ... the question is. that in the laws of countries there is a certain barrier where elections are recognized as valid or not. therefore, in a normal country, 19 percent should be declared invalid ... just not in the garbage dump.
            1. +1
              20 July 2020 13: 35
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              , and what are you talking about? ...... about the facts, I trust the figures, at the time of the elections, the ze-po were based on the population census during the Yanyka. it amounted to 37 miliens. other statistics simply do not exist.


              What kind of nonsense are you talking about? In the end is that the end?

              73%, this is the percentage of the number of those who took part in the elections, no more and no less.

              PERCENTAGE OF ANY QUANTITIES.

              This figure has nothing to do with the number of population remaining on the outskirts.
              1. -1
                20 July 2020 13: 41
                What kind of nonsense are you talking about? .... what nonsense? is that the overwhelming majority of citizens have, according to their intention. did not vote ... why did I print the difference in normal countries for elections and in garbage dumps like U
                1. +1
                  20 July 2020 13: 48
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  What kind of nonsense are you talking about? .... what nonsense? is that the overwhelming majority of citizens have, according to their intention. did not vote ... why did I print the difference in normal countries for elections and in garbage dumps like U


                  Well you are tight Yes ...
                  I will explain again - a number "73%"This is the number of those who voted, regardless of the number of people who, in your opinion, were" left out of the voting board, "which is a PROBLEM OF THE REGION that does not bother us much.

                  But this does not in any way affect (I REPEAT) the percentage given for Zelensky ...
                  1. -3
                    20 July 2020 14: 00
                    "left out of the voting", ...... and you are tight along the way, I just showed the numbers where in serious countries such crap would not work, and the percentages are based on something significant, but not in the garbage
                    1. +1
                      20 July 2020 14: 06
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      I just showed the numbers where in serious countries such crap would not work, and the percentages are based on something significant, but not in the garbage

                      ON ROOFER! The elections were recognized as valid and the percentage of their results will not go anywhere ...
                      1. 0
                        20 July 2020 14: 20
                        ON KORNEPLOD! ...... a wonderful bypass of the ban on the site, I also have a drum about this dump in, ..so. I regularly look into the circus YouTube so howl, only Kent. and a part-time colleague from Donetsk, whether he comes to visit or not, even the connection with him has disappeared, like he planned for August
      3. 0
        20 July 2020 22: 10
        But the pose is interesting, care. Half of Ukraine "danced" with joy when they "mocked the regionals in the office", "the Crimeans were shot." These "tattoos are moronic with a" trident "-" they will gnaw their teeth "(something like that, somewhere there). Let them" pray to Minsk. "I really want to answer in full.
    2. +3
      20 July 2020 07: 58
      Quote: Victor_B
      And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.

      And the simpler is the litter, or the "all day" laying.
    3. 0
      21 July 2020 08: 14
      This m ... should have been shot 10 years ago
  2. +2
    20 July 2020 06: 10
    That is, like if Saakashvili does not get more power, then Ukraine will fall apart. I almost ruined Georgia, now it will covet Ukraine.
    1. +9
      20 July 2020 07: 53
      Quote: 1976AG
      That is, like if Saakashvili does not get more power, then Ukraine will fall apart. I almost ruined Georgia, now it will covet Ukraine.

      Yes, let him "steer" Yes

      As Maxim Alkin said (about NATO): "Let them have a new member, and we are pleased"
    2. +4
      20 July 2020 08: 15
      Quote: 1976AG
      Georgia almost collapsed, now it’s going to flood into Ukraine.

      Not. Mishiko did not ruin Georgia, he was engaged in optimizing the budget. Ossetia and Abkhazia to us, Adjara to the Turks. Still on retirement live happily ever after
  3. +11
    20 July 2020 06: 12
    I like Mishino "WE" the most. Who are we"? And the fact that Ukraine will fall apart and disappear as such from the map of the world is really beyond doubt. While the die-hard Westerners will defend complete Ukrainization, Hungary and Romania are already dissatisfied with the language law and will drag the population and lands of the respective regions along with them. And the rest, looking at them, will act more boldly (We are like Europe). And as a result, the Kiev volost will remain.
    1. +10
      20 July 2020 06: 30
      "WE" are true Ukrainians. He proved to Avakov which of them is more Ukrainian.
    2. +2
      20 July 2020 08: 07
      Quote: Egoza
      While stubborn zapadentsy will defend full Ukrainization,

      It is true that while the West pretends to be defending Ukrainization, in fact, it is simply destroying Ukraine, and it is easier to rule in pieces. You don’t need to go far for an example, Ukrainization in Western Ukraine began even by the Austrian Empire, but the Austrians did not make it a separate, let alone free state, but did not even accept the empire, as they did with Hungary. The same is expected in the near future.
    3. +4
      20 July 2020 09: 16
      Explain why Ukraine should fall apart? As long as Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world exist and, accordingly, irreconcilable contradictions between them, buffer mongrel dogs will exist.
      1. +4
        20 July 2020 10: 12
        Quote: 210ox
        Explain why Ukraine should fall apart? As long as Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world exist and, accordingly, irreconcilable contradictions between them, buffer mongrel dogs will exist.

        The mongrel will remain, just it will greatly decrease in size.
    4. +3
      20 July 2020 12: 43
      will remain as a result of the Kiev parish ...... well, what. ... Thomas is. the pastor is. flock there .. rename Kiev in the New Vatican and heal well. all business then ....... I involuntarily think that this is a project of the FSB, judging by how dramatically the economy collapsed bezpovorotno and the mess has increased dramatically
  4. +3
    20 July 2020 06: 31
    Come on, Bear. You are no stranger to being homeless ...
  5. +4
    20 July 2020 06: 33
    There is no need to be upset about any reason, so to the disappearance of the Bandera state. Let them try to "gather" themselves into at least some kind of integral formation ...
    1. +5
      20 July 2020 06: 41
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Let them try to "gather" themselves into at least some kind of integral formation ...

      Will not work! Getman's mace will be fought.
  6. +7
    20 July 2020 06: 45
    Hurry up. It is necessary for the Poles to return Galicia and Volhynia, the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, the Romanians Northern Bukovina, and we need to return Novorossia in its entirety, and not just Crimea, in addition to Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa regions. And there let the pans let them jump as they want, it will already be their business.
    1. -1
      20 July 2020 08: 02
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      It is necessary for the Poles to return Galicia and Volhynia, the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, the Romanians Northern Bukovina


      In Canada, a bunch of islands, let them take
      1. -2
        20 July 2020 08: 36
        Galicia, Volhynia, Transcarpathia and Northern Bukovina were never Russian lands. Little Russia is also not Russian land, there lived Little Russians, who are now called Ukrainians. But Novorossia is Russian land, as well as Crimea, Kuban, Don and Chernozemye. New Russia, Crimea, Kuban, Don and Chernozemye were formerly Wild Field, where the Crimean Tatars and other nomads grazed cattle. Psole conquering these lands, Russian peasants from the Non-Black Earth region began to settle there, and since the number of agricultural people is ten times greater than the number of cattle breeders due to the greater productivity of farming than animal husbandry due to the fact that the land on which grain and other crops are grown can feed a unit of area is ten times more people than the same land on which livestock is grazed and people live off livestock, the Russians simply dissolved the small Crimean Tatar population. In the same way, it happened in the 9-10th centuries with the Non-Chernozem Region, then North-Eastern Russia, where Russian immigrants, who were farmers, and being hundreds of times more in number, assimilated and absorbed the local Ugric tribes that lived off hunting and fishing. And an economy based on hunting and fishing is even less effective than an economy based on herding. Therefore, by the way, the Russians in the 16-17th centuries so easily with the help of a few Cossack units were able to conquer vast lands in Siberia and the Far East, since the local population was extremely small due to the economy based on hunting and fishing. And by the way, therefore, the Siberian tribes could pay yasak with furs, since if they were farmers, then they simply would not have time to hunt fur animals.
        1. 5-9
          0
          20 July 2020 09: 34
          Ugric tribes in northeastern Russia are not very local, a thousand years before that they came from the Urals ... And there previously lived the Baltic Slavs ... from whom the ancestors of the Slavs went southwest to the Danube and took shape there as Slavs ... returned to relatives in general ...
          1. +2
            20 July 2020 10: 23
            The Slavs are actually Aryans, a people that arose in the territory of the modern south of Russia, who managed to tame horses. It was thanks to the cavalry that the Aryans were able to conquer and master gigantic spaces from the Atlantic to India, since the local tribes, being on foot, could not oppose anything to the equestrian conquerors, whose mobility was 3-4 times more than them, plus, on clockwork horses, the riders could carry supplies and equipment with them at the same speed. Against them, the foot local tribes with a maximum of bulls could do nothing.
            1. 5-9
              +1
              20 July 2020 16: 04
              Between the Aryans and the Slavs there are 4 thousand years of difference ... and the Aryans conquered a quarter of the world not by horse, but by chariot ... The horses were too small then to ride ... But the fact that genetically the inhabitants of the Russian Plain did not change much for the last thousand 5 years is a fact ... We are direct and continuous descendants of those same Aryans ...
        2. +2
          20 July 2020 20: 44
          Kuzma Kuzmich, Let us remember Galicia-Volyn Rus, Kievan Rus ... and when, on whose lands Little Russians appeared. About Transcarpathia - Subcarpathian Rus.
  7. +3
    20 July 2020 07: 04
    Well, what a political long-liver. Yes
  8. +1
    20 July 2020 07: 10
    In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt.
    Well, lose, so what. If you (hands, pockets, heads, pants) are full of holes. request Despite the fact that, hands are raking, pockets are bottomless, heads are always hungover, pants ... are wide, like Ukraine and from the curtains. recourse
  9. 0
    20 July 2020 07: 15
    Quote: Victor_B
    At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.
    In my opinion, everything goes on this in itself!
    Zelensky quickly and effectively creates an image of a de-bil.
    Poroshenko, of course, is the laying of eggs of lice (in the letter G) and a thief, but he managed to RULE the state. He was a puppet of only Americans (though he put the wrong horse on that horse). He was not dependent on Ukrainian oligarchs.
    And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.
    Well, the ranking of the Servant of the people must flow somewhere. Gunpowder will fall too.

    That's just Gunpowder and nothing will get from the Servant of the People. Already today we see how the rating of CH falls and the rating of the HMO and the Sharia Party grows. So the Servant rating goes to them.
    1. +7
      20 July 2020 07: 24
      Only the eastern regions will vote for the HLE, while the center and the west will die, but Poroshenko will vote better than these Yanukovych supporters. That Vilkul, that Boyko, the same scum as Yanukovych, having come to power, will again try to sit on two chairs, like their former leader of the Donetsk organized criminal group Yanukovych. And they end up just as badly. And Shariy, even if he suddenly becomes president, will be the same puppet as Zelensky, since he does not have the support of security officials, oligarchs and special services. Poroshenko himself was an oligarch and had vast experience in the Ukrainian government, he was a deputy of three convocations, Secretary of the Security Council, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of Economic Development. So, having come to power, Poroshenko knew all this cesspool from the inside and immediately subjugated everyone to himself. And Shariy is nobody, just a talker in YouTube, he will be as helpless as Zelensky. Only fools can think that if Shariy becomes president, he will change for the better. You, non-brothers, when will you stop jumping on the same rake and start learning from your mistakes? Or you, the Sumerians, as in the saying where a miser pays twice, three times, and always a sucker?
      1. -1
        20 July 2020 20: 52
        Kuzma Kuzmich, PPSh (Sharia's party) is gaining "momentum" (voters' votes), it is quite possible that A. Shariy will become a deputy of the Rada (VRU), and then ... Today, a "chatterbox on YouTube" (or Beloborodko in "Servant of the People"), and tomorrow...
        1. +1
          21 July 2020 00: 05
          Goloborodko, not Beloborodko. While Shariy becomes a deputy, while he gets comfortable, gains experience and acquaintances, it will take at least 10 years. During this time, little will remain of Ukraine.
          1. 0
            21 July 2020 00: 12
            Kuzma Kuzmich, can you propose your candidate for the "saviors of Ukraine" ... (V. Putin is not proposed, he is "reserved").
            1. +1
              21 July 2020 00: 15
              And the hell to save this Ukraine? This is an artificial formation created from three different peoples: Galicians, Little Russians and Russians. Galicians need to be given to the Poles and Hungarians, the Russians of Novorossiya need to join Russia, and let the Little Russians boil in their juice and jump as they want.
              1. 0
                21 July 2020 00: 33
                Kuzma Kuzmich, about Galicia (Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk) is understandable. How do you divide the rest of the land? Kiev - whose? My opinion - Lutsk, Rivne, Zhytomyr, Vinnytsia, Khmelnytsky regions - Little Russia (Lutsk, Rivne - Volyn land). I would also highlight Subcarpathian Rus - Rusyns are not Galicians, agree ?, Hungarians to Hungary, land to Rusyns. Chernivtsi region to Moldova (Romanians - SHISH), and Transnistria and Gagauzia to Russia. Goloborodko or Beloborodko - what's the difference if the actor as president turns out to be a "waste of life"
                1. +1
                  21 July 2020 01: 49
                  Transcarpathia, where Rusyns live, must be given to Hungary. For fun, you can give Little Russia to the Poles, especially since until 1654 Kiev was a Polish city. Let the Poles deal with Bendera, there will be less time left to bark at Russia.
                  1. -1
                    21 July 2020 20: 10
                    Kuzma Kuzmich, Why are you giving Subcarpathian Rus to Hungary, not Slovakia? For "fun" Poland needs to "return" Galicia (Lvov, Ternopil ...). Kiev from 1362 to 1569 - belonged to Lithuania ... Poland, Kiev began to belong from 1569. In Lithuania Kiev was 207 years old, and in Poland it was 85 years old, in Russia Kiev was 337 years old. Here Crimea was under Turkey until 1783, you Kuzma Kuzmich will not give the Crimea to Turkey ... Warsaw until 1917 was part of the Russian Empire ...
                    1. 0
                      21 July 2020 20: 31
                      Has Slovakia conquered something? I did not hear. But the Hungarians fought, and fought very well. Until 1654, Kuiv was a Polish city, the Lithuanians were the same people as the Poles, only Orthodox, not Catholics.
                      Crimea Russia conquered, with its blood and the life of Russians. And a trophy is a trophy! The Anglo-Saxons do not deny this, it is normal for them - what is obtained in battle is sacred.
                      Warsaw is a Polish city, let the Poles live on their own.
                      1. 0
                        21 July 2020 22: 34
                        Kuzma Kuzmich, 1) Rusyns live in Slovakia, and Slovaks themselves are Slavs - let them reunite! 2) "Polish city" - a city where Poles live (for example, Krakow, Warsaw) - Russians live in Kiev !!! 3) Lithuanians - Letto-Lithuanian group, Poles - Western Slavs, different language, different DNA 4) Kiev became Russian after the Russian-Polish war of 1654-1667, our RUSSIAN soldiers also died in that war 5) Every "piece of land" of the Russian Empire - The USSR was "paid for" with the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers - you Kuzma Kuzmich "gave" Little Russia to Poland ... 6) Purely legally, the Crimean Khanate "voluntarily" became part of the Russian Empire 7) "What was obtained in battle is sacred" - remember as President Russia returned to Israel a tank obtained as a "trophy" in the Arab-Israeli war (I don't remember which one). By the way, Smolensk "returned to its native harbor" following the results of the Russian Victory in the Russian-Polish war of 1654-1667 over the "Andrusiv truce" at the same time as Kiev - this is about talking about what lands were in Poland and when they became Russian (not it is necessary to shout about the Time of Troubles, Kiev became Lithuanian the same during the "Tatar-Mongol yoke" 1362 - the time was the same "muddy" for Russia).
                      2. +1
                        22 July 2020 06: 14
                        It is possible to make a border with Poland along the Dnieper, Kiev departs to the Poles. The Odessa and Nikolaev regions, naturally, leave Russia, since this is New Russia, not Little Russia.
                      3. 0
                        22 July 2020 20: 05
                        Kuzma Kuzmich, My opinion - r. The Dnieper remains within Russia, that is, the western parts of the Kiev, Cherkassk, Dnepropetrovsk and the entire Kirovograd region remain in Russia. I just want the Dnieper to be OUR, Kiev would be in the place of Exactly - let it remain in Little Russia. Let me remind you - in the Kirovograd region there is URAN, they write that they have found gold, they are looking for diamonds and platinum (they haven’t found yet), there is growing “Black Forest” - a reserve, will we really give the “adversaries” URAN, gold and let them cut down the “Black Forest” .. ...
                      4. 0
                        22 July 2020 20: 10
                        We also do not forget to return Transnistria and Gagauzia to their "home harbor" good
                      5. +1
                        22 July 2020 20: 24
                        Yes, let them cut down the forest, I don't care. Although there will remain a desert, this land is not Russian, but Little Russian. Let the saucepans care.
                        As for gold, diamonds, platinum and uranium, let the pans write whatever they want in their garbage media. If you believe their media, we here in Russia, back in 2014, finished the last hedgehogs and now we eat one grass.
                      6. 0
                        22 July 2020 20: 35
                        And Uranus ...? Gold ? - uranium is actually mined in the Kirovograd region. Kirovograd until 1924 Elisavetgrad - founded on July 18, 1754, 1765 became the center of the Elisabeth province of the newly formed NOVOROSSIYSK province ... This summer I saw one Hedgehog in the city.
  10. +1
    20 July 2020 07: 50
    They found authority, more than one prison misses him. And this monster was attracted to VO, well, and some tastes.
  11. +1
    20 July 2020 07: 56
    Former head of the Odessa region of Ukraine, he is the former president of Georgia
    ... he's a "bum". He wipes himself off in the backyards of the "limitrophes", can anyone shelter "the son of Lieutenant Schmidt. He's just like a" crumpled patron "now, nobody needs him.
  12. -2
    20 July 2020 08: 06
    . received the position of head of the executive committee of the National Reform Council.

    A position that does not affect anything, imperceptible and far from financial flows - on the principle of “on and off”
    Nobody cares about Saakashvili, so he’s self-promoting, so that they don’t forget
    It seems they were not hurt, they gave the position, in memory of his scandals with Poroshenko, but
    A position such that does not affect anything, a dummy, but he is not used to being in the shade, the soul of PR requires, it’s like a drug
  13. +2
    20 July 2020 08: 17
    By "we" does he mean himself and Zelensky's gang? Yes, they can lose. The rest have long since lost everything.
  14. +13
    20 July 2020 10: 08
    With the likes of Mishiko, of course there is no future.
  15. 0
    20 July 2020 11: 06
    If someone recalls the rogue Saakshvili, then someone really needs it.
  16. +3
    20 July 2020 11: 28
    In general, all of Ukraine is already a de facto confederation ... And this is one of the main "peremog" maydanutyh !!!

    A pun on the topic: In Ukraine, the Ukrainian Mishiko is again quarreling with the Ukrainian Arsen ??? And where did so many sultry Caucasian Ukrainians come from to Ukraine ???
  17. +3
    20 July 2020 12: 35
    There is nothing to lose, she was stillborn in many respects because of such Saak.
  18. +1
    20 July 2020 12: 55
    Ukraine will not fall apart - Russia will not give it, Russia needs all of Ukraine - all without the Americans, it is possible without the Ukrainians, but these are their problems.
    1. +1
      20 July 2020 15: 16
      There are no Ukrainians in Ukraine for a long time. And it is already impossible to help the population that still exists there. I am afraid that the next candidate for the place of Ukraine is Belarus, everything is heading towards this.
      1. 0
        20 July 2020 23: 01
        Quote: iouris
        I am afraid that the next candidate for the place of Ukraine is Belarus, everything is heading towards this.

        Russia has mastered the weapon of hybrid wars, and is using it in full even across the States, so it will not give up Belarus for sure - and Ukraine was otmaidanized even when Russia itself was impoverished and helpless like modern Ukraine.
  19. 0
    20 July 2020 15: 13
    Saakashvili is in such a shape that he will not be lost. And everyone knows that too.
  20. BAI
    +1
    20 July 2020 20: 26
    According to Saakashvili, the actions of the current Ukrainian officials could lead to the complete disappearance of the Ukrainian state.

    Flag in their hands.
    1. 0
      21 July 2020 10: 24
      Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt
      Mishiko will not believe - we will not wait for YOU and LIKE YOU to lose Ukraine !!!

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"