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Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt

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Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt

The former head of the Odessa region of Ukraine, who is also the former president of Georgia, announced the possibility of revenge of the political forces of Petro Poroshenko. According to Mikheil Saakashvili, a certain part of local officials are preparing as a "secession from Ukraine" against the background of the fact that another part of politicians is going to re-settle in Kiev.


According to Saakashvili, the actions of the current Ukrainian officials could lead to the complete disappearance of the Ukrainian state.

We will remind that earlier Saakashvili fled from Ukraine, and after the beginning of the presidency of Vladimir Zelensky returned to the country and soon received the post of head of the executive committee of the National Council of Reforms.

Saakashvili called the local authorities in Ukraine "feudal lords who rave about fat, having gotten the entire budget in their hands."

According to the ex-head of the Odessa Regional State Administration, the local authorities "will steal the bulk of the budget, and create their own armies for the rest."

Saakashvili:

Here (in Odessa) there is a municipal guard, just ordinary thugs who walk in uniform and with weapons, and funded from the budget.

At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.

Saakashvili:

In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt.

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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 20 July 2020 06: 08 New
    +8
    At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.
    In my opinion, everything goes on this in itself!
    Zelensky quickly and effectively creates an image of a de-bil.
    Poroshenko, of course, is the laying of eggs of lice (in the letter G) and a thief, but he managed to RULE the state. He was a puppet of only Americans (though he put the wrong horse on that horse). He was not dependent on Ukrainian oligarchs.
    And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.
    Well, the ranking of the Servant of the people must flow somewhere. Gunpowder will fall too.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 20 July 2020 07: 19 New
      12
      Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt
      The article does not cover the topic of "the form of Ukraine", which Mishiko said. no
      Did he mean the complete degradation of the state will and its replacement by the Nazi-Bandera ideology that finally and decisively split the country?

      Moreover, I am writing not about leaving us, the DPR and the LPR, which has already been accomplished long ago and irrevocably, but about a deeper split in ex-Ukraine itself, which became more apparent after 73% of Ukrainians did not come true for changes with the arrival of V.A. Zelinsky.
      1. Private-K
        Private-K 20 July 2020 08: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        The topic is not disclosed in the article.

        The topic was disclosed in detail in three videos by Shkolnikov - I already posted the links. There are detailed and detailed. In an easily accessible form.
        The current degradation and subsidence of the central Kiev authorities, the strengthening of the status of the regions are obvious. Let's see what the local elections will show in the fall, but most likely they will lead to a further strengthening of the regions up to ... right up to anything.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 20 July 2020 08: 05 New
          12
          Quote: Private-K
          Let's see what the local elections will show in the fall, but most likely they will lead to a further strengthening of the regions up to ... right up to anything.

          At the very outskirts, they are making noise about a possible revolt of regional elites, "and about the creation (strengthening) by clans of their own armed units to" win back a little power "...

          Here is such a chaos scenario, we would be quite happy yes
          1. Asad
            Asad 20 July 2020 08: 58 New
            +4
            I think this option is wonderful for him, and it would be easier for Russia to complete what was finally begun!
          2. Vladimir61
            Vladimir61 20 July 2020 10: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            Here is such a chaos scenario, we would be quite happy
            Is it simple?
            We will be satisfied if "there", the voters wake up and understand that the choice of calmness, integrity, independence and stability does not depend on the redecoration of the authorities. The principle - “we vote against the situation in the country”, did not justify itself. We are satisfied with the choice in favor of the opposition platform "For Life"!
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 20 July 2020 12: 06 New
              +4
              Quote: Vladimir61
              Is it simple?
              We will be satisfied if "there", the voters wake up and understand that the choice of calmness, integrity, independence and stability does not depend on the redecoration of the authorities. The principle - “we vote against the situation in the country”, did not justify itself. We are satisfied with the choice in favor of the opposition platform "For Life"!

              You think in terms of the measured peaceful life in Russia, and I think in our categories, according to which TIME IS VICTIMS.
              1. Vladimir61
                Vladimir61 20 July 2020 12: 42 New
                +4
                Quote: Insurgent
                You think in terms of the measured peaceful life in Russia, and I think in our categories, according to which TIME IS VICTIMS.
                Until recently, I myself lived there, and my parents are there now, on the "Minsk line". And I know what shelling and casualties are not from TV reports! And the uncontrollable "chaos" in a country in which the tone is set by nationalists and thugs of all stripes, with a public lack of political will in the Russian Federation to recognize the DLNR, will just pour out "bitter tears" for the citizens of the DLNR.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 20 July 2020 12: 49 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimir61
                  And the uncontrollable "chaos" in a country where nationalists and thugs of all stripes set the tone, with a public lack of political will in the Russian Federation to recognize the DLNR, will just pour out "bitter tears" for the DLNR.

                  I strongly disagree. When the war starts there (even if the massacre, do not care yes ) all against all, they will no longer have time for us.

                  Remember the November revolution of 1918 in Germany, when the "II Reich" collapsed ...
                  The occupying troops of the Reichswehr in Ukraine did not really want to leave, but they were forced to do so. OWN HOUSE BURNING ...
                  1. Captain Pushkin
                    Captain Pushkin 20 July 2020 14: 40 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Remember the November revolution of 1918 in Germany, when the "II Reich" collapsed ...
                    The occupation troops of the Reichswehr in Ukraine did not really want to leave

                    The Germans themselves may have gone home early, but ANTANTA forbade them to leave and obliged them to continue the occupation
            2. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 20 July 2020 20: 32 New
              +1
              Vladimir, the Opposition Platform for Life (Oppositional Platform for Life) party is a "child of the Party of Regions" - when they come to power, they will "squeeze" out of Russia "soft loans", discounts on gas, lucrative contracts ... and WILL SOLUTE on the next Maidan. "soft loans" - remember Yanukovych's three-ruble note sad ". About Mishiko tongue (M. Saakashvili) - regrets that he was "left" from the governors of the Odessa region - "new Georgia" will not work ...
          3. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 20 July 2020 14: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            On the very edge of the noise about a possible riot of regional elites

            The maximum possible in the coming years is the further pulling of blankets by regional princes to themselves as part of Ukraine. Zelensky will continue to retreat and further weaken the Center. Therefore, no one will run anywhere.
            But after Zelensky, an amateur may come to tighten the nuts and collect all the power in their hands.
            Here the regionals will howl, grip their teeth in acquired overwork and anything is possible.
            But even here, in order for changes to take place, pleasant to us, we need to work hard and competently. And start today, but better, yesterday.
      2. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 12: 23 New
        +2
        after unfulfilled hopes 73% of Ukrainians ... be careful with the interest because the Kiev junta does not even know how many citizens are left in the ruins .. the interest will be calculated on the basis of known values, then bizh, here is a ton of grain. such a percentage of high gluten, such a percentage of low and such a percentage of feed grains. the key is a ton of grain ... and what is in the wreck ???? there is no key and is not foreseen in the foreseeable future
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 20 July 2020 12: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          after unfulfilled hopes 73% of Ukrainians ... be careful with the interest because the Kiev junta does not even know how many citizens are left in the ruins .. the interest will be calculated on the basis of known values, then bizh, here is a ton of grain. such a percentage of high gluten, such a percentage of low and such a percentage of feed grains. the key is a ton of grain .....

          I write about 73% of the votes cast in the outskirts in the elections for peace, against parAshenko, for the hope of change, and what are you talking about?

          KIEV, 23 Apr - RIA Novosti. Volodymyr Zelenskyy won 73,22 percent of the vote in the second round of the presidential elections in Ukraine, the incumbent head of state Petro Poroshenko - 24,45 percent. Such data were published on the scoreboard of the Central Election Commission after processing 100 percent of electronic protocols.


          https://ria.ru/20190423/1552980787.html
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 13: 31 New
            0
            , and what are you talking about? ...... about the facts, I trust the figures, at the time of the elections, the ze-po were based on the population census during the Yanyka. it was 37 millenes. another simply no statistics, .. now the chip, minus Crimea 2 miliens, minus LDNR 8 miliens, minus gersters in the Russian Federation about 10 miles minus givers in the EU about 3 miles the right to vote, now further .. to summarize ... 23 miles out of 37, as a result, we have 14 miles left, of which the right to vote is divided by two, this is 7 miles. even though those 7 milion voted it is 18 percent (and even lower) ... the question is. that in the laws of countries there is a certain barrier where elections are recognized as valid or not. therefore, in a normal country, 19 percent should be declared invalid ... just not in the garbage dump.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 20 July 2020 13: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              , and what are you talking about? ...... about the facts, I trust the figures, at the time of the elections, the ze-po were based on the population census during the Yanyka. it amounted to 37 miliens. other statistics simply do not exist.


              What kind of nonsense are you talking about? In the end is that the end?

              73%, this is the percentage of the number of those who took part in the elections, no more and no less.

              PERCENTAGE OF ANY QUANTITIES.

              This figure has nothing to do with the number of population remaining on the outskirts.
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 13: 41 New
                -1
                What kind of nonsense are you talking about? .... what nonsense? is that the overwhelming majority of citizens have, according to their intention. did not vote ... why did I print the difference in normal countries for elections and in garbage dumps like U
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 20 July 2020 13: 48 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  What kind of nonsense are you talking about? .... what nonsense? is that the overwhelming majority of citizens have, according to their intention. did not vote ... why did I print the difference in normal countries for elections and in garbage dumps like U


                  Well you are tight yes .
                  I will explain again - a number "73%"This is the number of those who voted, regardless of the number of people who, in your opinion, were" left out of the voting board, "which is a PROBLEM OF THE REGION that does not bother us much.

                  But this does not in any way affect (I REPEAT) the percentage given for Zelensky ...
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 14: 00 New
                    -3
                    "left out of the voting", ...... and you are tight along the way, I just showed the numbers where in serious countries such crap would not work, and the percentages are based on something significant, but not in the garbage
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 20 July 2020 14: 06 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      I just showed the numbers where in serious countries such crap would not work, and the percentages are based on something significant, but not in the garbage

                      ON ROOFER! The elections were recognized as valid and the percentage of their results will not go anywhere ...
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 14: 20 New
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                        ON KORNEPLOD! ...... a wonderful bypass of the ban on the site, I also have a drum about this dump in, ..so. I regularly look into the circus YouTube so howl, only Kent. and a part-time colleague from Donetsk, whether he comes to visit or not, even the connection with him has disappeared, like he planned for August
      3. German Titov
        German Titov 20 July 2020 22: 10 New
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        But the pose is interesting, care. Half of Ukraine "danced" with joy when they "mocked the regionals in the office", "the Crimeans were shot." These "tattoos are moronic with a" trident "-" they will gnaw their teeth "(something like that, somewhere there). Let them" pray to Minsk. "I really want to answer in full.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 July 2020 07: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.

      A simple litter, or laying all-day.
    3. smart ass
      smart ass 21 July 2020 08: 14 New
      0
      This m ... should have been shot 10 years ago
  2. 1976AG
    1976AG 20 July 2020 06: 10 New
    +2
    That is, like if Saakashvili does not get more power, then Ukraine will fall apart. I almost ruined Georgia, now it will covet Ukraine.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 20 July 2020 07: 53 New
      +9
      Quote: 1976AG
      That is, like if Saakashvili does not get more power, then Ukraine will fall apart. I almost ruined Georgia, now it will covet Ukraine.

      Yes, let it steer yes

      In the words of Maxim Alkin (about NATO): "Let them have a new member, and we are pleased"
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 20 July 2020 08: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: 1976AG
      Georgia almost collapsed, now it’s going to flood into Ukraine.

      Not. Mishiko did not ruin Georgia, he was engaged in optimizing the budget. Ossetia and Abkhazia to us, Adjara to the Turks. Still on retirement live happily ever after
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 20 July 2020 06: 12 New
    11
    I like Mishino "WE" the most. Who are we"? And the fact that Ukraine will fall apart and disappear as such from the world map is really beyond doubt. While the stubborn zapadentsy will defend full Ukrainization, Hungary and Romania are already dissatisfied with the language law and will pull along both the population and the lands of the respective regions. And the rest, looking at them, will boldly act (We are like Europe). And the Kiev volost will remain as a result.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 20 July 2020 06: 30 New
      10
      "WE" are true Ukrainians. He proved to Avakov which of them is more Ukrainian.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 July 2020 08: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      While stubborn zapadentsy will defend full Ukrainization,

      It is true that while the West pretends to be defending Ukrainization, in fact, it is simply destroying Ukraine, and it is easier to rule in pieces. You don’t need to go far for an example, Ukrainization in Western Ukraine began even by the Austrian Empire, but the Austrians did not make it a separate, let alone free state, but did not even accept the empire, as they did with Hungary. The same is expected in the near future.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 20 July 2020 09: 16 New
      +4
      Explain why Ukraine should fall apart? As long as Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world exist and, accordingly, irreconcilable contradictions between them, buffer mongrel dogs will exist.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 20 July 2020 10: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        Explain why Ukraine should fall apart? As long as Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world exist and, accordingly, irreconcilable contradictions between them, buffer mongrel dogs will exist.

        The mongrel will remain, just it will greatly decrease in size.
    4. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 20 July 2020 12: 43 New
      +3
      will remain as a result of the Kiev parish ...... well, what. ... Thomas is. the pastor is. flock there .. rename Kiev in the New Vatican and heal well. all business then ....... I involuntarily think that this is a project of the FSB, judging by how dramatically the economy collapsed bezpovorotno and the mess has increased dramatically
  4. 210ox
    210ox 20 July 2020 06: 31 New
    +3
    Come on, Bear. You are no stranger to being homeless ...
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 July 2020 06: 33 New
    +4
    That's why there is no need to be upset, because of the disappearance of the Bandera state. Let them try to “collect” themselves into at least some integral formation ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 20 July 2020 06: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Let them try to “collect” themselves into at least some integral formation ...

      Will not work! Getman's mace will be fought.
  6. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 20 July 2020 06: 45 New
    +7
    Hurry up. It is necessary for the Poles to return Galicia and Volhynia, the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, the Romanians Northern Bukovina, and we need to return Novorossia in its entirety, and not just Crimea, in addition to Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa regions. And there let the pans let them jump as they want, it will already be their business.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 20 July 2020 08: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      It is necessary for the Poles to return Galicia and Volhynia, the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, the Romanians Northern Bukovina


      In Canada, a bunch of islands, let them take
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 20 July 2020 08: 36 New
        -2
        Galicia, Volhynia, Transcarpathia and Northern Bukovina were never Russian lands. Little Russia is also not Russian land, there lived Little Russians, who are now called Ukrainians. But Novorossia is Russian land, as well as Crimea, Kuban, Don and Chernozemye. New Russia, Crimea, Kuban, Don and Chernozemye were formerly Wild Field, where the Crimean Tatars and other nomads grazed cattle. Psole conquering these lands, Russian peasants from the Non-Black Earth region began to settle there, and since the number of agricultural people is ten times greater than the number of cattle breeders due to the greater productivity of farming than animal husbandry due to the fact that the land on which grain and other crops are grown can feed a unit of area is ten times more people than the same land on which livestock is grazed and people live off livestock, the Russians simply dissolved the small Crimean Tatar population. In the same way, it happened in the 9-10th centuries with the Non-Chernozem Region, then North-Eastern Russia, where Russian immigrants, who were farmers, and being hundreds of times more in number, assimilated and absorbed the local Ugric tribes that lived off hunting and fishing. And an economy based on hunting and fishing is even less effective than an economy based on herding. Therefore, by the way, the Russians in the 16-17th centuries so easily with the help of a few Cossack units were able to conquer vast lands in Siberia and the Far East, since the local population was extremely small due to the economy based on hunting and fishing. And by the way, therefore, the Siberian tribes could pay yasak with furs, since if they were farmers, then they simply would not have time to hunt fur animals.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 20 July 2020 09: 34 New
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          Ugric tribes in northeastern Russia are not very local, a thousand years before that they came from the Urals ... And there previously lived the Baltic Slavs ... from whom the ancestors of the Slavs went southwest to the Danube and took shape there as Slavs ... returned to relatives in general ...
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 20 July 2020 10: 23 New
            +2
            The Slavs are actually Aryans, a people that arose in the territory of the modern south of Russia, who managed to tame horses. It was thanks to the cavalry that the Aryans were able to conquer and master gigantic spaces from the Atlantic to India, since the local tribes, being on foot, could not oppose anything to the equestrian conquerors, whose mobility was 3-4 times more than them, plus, on clockwork horses, the riders could carry supplies and equipment with them at the same speed. Against them, the foot local tribes with a maximum of bulls could do nothing.
            1. 5-9
              5-9 20 July 2020 16: 04 New
              +1
              Between the Aryans and the Slavs there are 4 thousand years of difference ... and the Aryans conquered a quarter of the world not by horse, but by chariot ... The horses were too small then to ride ... But the fact that genetically the inhabitants of the Russian Plain did not change much for the last thousand 5 years is a fact ... We are direct and continuous descendants of those same Aryans ...
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 20 July 2020 20: 44 New
          +2
          Kuzma Kuzmich, Let us remember Galicia-Volyn Rus, Kievan Rus ... and when, on whose lands Little Russians appeared. About Transcarpathia - Subcarpathian Rus.
  7. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 20 July 2020 07: 04 New
    +3
    Well, what a political long-liver. yes
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 July 2020 07: 10 New
    +1
    In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt.
    Well, lose, so what. If you (hands, pockets, heads, pants) are full of holes. request Despite the fact that, hands are raking, pockets are bottomless, heads are always hungover, pants ... are wide, like Ukraine and from the curtains. recourse
  9. Andrey Vasilievich
    Andrey Vasilievich 20 July 2020 07: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Victor_B
    At the same time, Saakashvili once again raised the topic of a possible revolt by the forces of Petro Poroshenko. Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets published a rumor that such a riot could happen in the fall.
    In my opinion, everything goes on this in itself!
    Zelensky quickly and effectively creates an image of a de-bil.
    Poroshenko, of course, is the laying of eggs of lice (in the letter G) and a thief, but he managed to RULE the state. He was a puppet of only Americans (though he put the wrong horse on that horse). He was not dependent on Ukrainian oligarchs.
    And Zelensky is just a rag compared to Poroshenko.
    Well, the ranking of the Servant of the people must flow somewhere. Gunpowder will fall too.

    That's just Gunpowder and nothing will get from the Servant of the People. Already today we see how the rating of CH falls and the rating of the HMO and the Sharia Party grows. So the Servant rating goes to them.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 20 July 2020 07: 24 New
      +7
      Only the eastern regions will vote for the HLE, while the center and the west will die, but Poroshenko will vote better than these Yanukovych supporters. That Vilkul, that Boyko, the same scum as Yanukovych, having come to power, will again try to sit on two chairs, like their former leader of the Donetsk organized criminal group Yanukovych. And they end up just as badly. And Shariy, even if he suddenly becomes president, will be the same puppet as Zelensky, since he does not have the support of security officials, oligarchs and special services. Poroshenko himself was an oligarch and had vast experience in the Ukrainian government, he was a deputy of three convocations, Secretary of the Security Council, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of Economic Development. So, having come to power, Poroshenko knew all this cesspool from the inside and immediately subjugated everyone to himself. And Shariy is nobody, just a talker in YouTube, he will be as helpless as Zelensky. Only fools can think that if Shariy becomes president, he will change for the better. You, non-brothers, when will you stop jumping on the same rake and start learning from your mistakes? Or you, the Sumerians, as in the saying where a miser pays twice, three times, and always a sucker?
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 20 July 2020 20: 52 New
        -1
        Kuzma Kuzmich, PPSh (Sharia's party) is gaining "momentum" (voters' votes), it is quite possible that A. Shariy will become a deputy of the Rada (VRU), and then ... and tomorrow...
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 21 July 2020 00: 05 New
          +1
          Goloborodko, not Beloborodko. While Shariy becomes a deputy, while he gets comfortable, gains experience and acquaintances, it will take at least 10 years. During this time, little will remain of Ukraine.
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 21 July 2020 00: 12 New
            0
            Kuzma Kuzmich, can you propose your candidate for the "savior of Ukraine" ... (V. Putin is not proposed, he is "reserved").
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 21 July 2020 00: 15 New
              +1
              And the hell to save this Ukraine? This is an artificial formation created from three different peoples: Galicians, Little Russians and Russians. Galicians need to be given to the Poles and Hungarians, the Russians of Novorossiya need to join Russia, and let the Little Russians boil in their juice and jump as they want.
              1. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 21 July 2020 00: 33 New
                0
                Kuzma Kuzmich, about Galicia (Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk) is understandable. How do you divide the rest of the land? Kiev - whose? My opinion - Lutsk, Rivne, Zhytomyr, Vinnytsia, Khmelnytsky regions - Little Russia (Lutsk, Rivne - Volyn land). I would also highlight Subcarpathian Rus - Rusyns are not Galicians, agree ?, Hungarians to Hungary, land to Rusyns. Chernivtsi region to Moldova (Romanians - Shish), and Transnistria and Gagauzia to Russia. Goloborodko or Beloborodko - what's the difference if the actor as president turns out to be a "waste of life"
                1. Kot_Kuzya
                  Kot_Kuzya 21 July 2020 01: 49 New
                  +1
                  Transcarpathia, where Rusyns live, must be given to Hungary. For fun, you can give Little Russia to the Poles, especially since until 1654 Kiev was a Polish city. Let the Poles deal with Bendera, there will be less time left to bark at Russia.
                  1. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 21 July 2020 20: 10 New
                    -1
                    Kuzma Kuzmich, Why are you giving Subcarpathian Rus to Hungary, not Slovakia? For "fun" Poland needs to "return" Galicia (Lvov, Ternopil ...). Kiev from 1362 to 1569 - belonged to Lithuania ... Poland, Kiev began to belong from 1569. In Lithuania Kiev was 207 years old, and in Poland it was 85 years old, in Russia Kiev was 337 years old. Here Crimea was under Turkey until 1783, you Kuzma Kuzmich will not give the Crimea to Turkey ... Warsaw until 1917 was part of the Russian Empire ...
                    1. Kot_Kuzya
                      Kot_Kuzya 21 July 2020 20: 31 New
                      0
                      Has Slovakia conquered something? I did not hear. But the Hungarians fought, and fought very well. Until 1654, Kuiv was a Polish city, the Lithuanians were the same people as the Poles, only Orthodox, not Catholics.
                      Crimea Russia conquered, with its blood and the life of Russians. And a trophy is a trophy! The Anglo-Saxons do not deny this, it is normal for them - what is obtained in battle is sacred.
                      Warsaw is a Polish city, let the Poles live on their own.
                      1. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 21 July 2020 22: 34 New
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                        Kuzma Kuzmich, 1) Rusyns live in Slovakia, and Slovaks themselves are Slavs - let them reunite! 2) "Polish city" - a city where Poles live (for example, Krakow, Warsaw) - Russians live in Kiev !!! 3) Lithuanians - Letto-Lithuanian group, Poles - Western Slavs, different language, different DNA 4) Kiev became Russian after the Russian-Polish war of 1654-1667, our RUSSIAN soldiers also died in that war 5) Every "piece of land" of the Russian Empire - The USSR was "paid for" with the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers - you Kuzma Kuzmich "gave" Little Russia to Poland ... 6) Purely legally, the Crimean Khanate "voluntarily" became part of the Russian Empire 7) "What was obtained in battle is sacred" - remember as President Russia returned to Israel a tank obtained as a "trophy" in the Arab-Israeli war (I don't remember which one). By the way, Smolensk "returned to its native harbor" following the results of the Russian Victory in the Russian-Polish war of 1654-1667 over the "Andrusiv truce" at the same time as Kiev - this is about talking about what lands were in Poland and when they became Russian (not it is necessary to shout about the Time of Troubles, Kiev became Lithuanian the same during the "Tatar-Mongol yoke" 1362 - the time was the same "muddy" for Russia).
                      2. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2020 06: 14 New
                        +1
                        It is possible to make a border with Poland along the Dnieper, Kiev departs to the Poles. The Odessa and Nikolaev regions, naturally, leave Russia, since this is New Russia, not Little Russia.
                      3. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 22 July 2020 20: 05 New
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                        Kuzma Kuzmich, My opinion - r. The Dnieper remains within Russia, that is, the western parts of Kiev, Cherkassk, Dnepropetrovsk and the entire Kirovograd region remain in Russia. I just want the Dnieper to be OUR, if Kiev were in place of Exactly - let it remain in Little Russia. Let me remind you that there is URAN in the Kirovograd region, they write that they have found gold, they are looking for diamonds and platinum (they haven’t found it yet), there is growing “Black Forest” - a reserve, will we really give the “adversaries” URAN, gold and let them cut down the “Black Forest” .. ...
                      4. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 22 July 2020 20: 10 New
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                        We also don’t forget to return Transnistria and Gagauzia to our "home harbor" good
                      5. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2020 20: 24 New
                        +1
                        Yes, let them cut down the forest, I don't care. Although there will remain a desert, this land is not Russian, but Little Russian. Let the saucepans care.
                        As for gold, diamonds, platinum and uranium, let the pans write whatever they want in their garbage media. If you believe their media, we here in Russia, back in 2014, finished the last hedgehogs and now we eat one grass.
                      6. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 22 July 2020 20: 35 New
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                        And Uranus ...? Gold ? - uranium is actually mined in the Kirovograd region. Kirovograd until 1924 Elisavetgrad - founded on July 18, 1754, 1765 became the center of the Elisabeth province of the newly formed NOVOROSSIYSK province ... This summer I saw one Hedgehog in the city.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 July 2020 07: 50 New
    +1
    They found authority, more than one prison misses him. And this monster was attracted to VO, well, and some tastes.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 July 2020 07: 56 New
    +1
    Former head of the Odessa region of Ukraine, he is the former president of Georgia
    ... he's a bum. He wipes himself around the margins of the "Limitrophs," maybe someone will shelter "the son of Lieutenant Schmidt. He just now, like a" crumpled cartridge, "is not needed by anyone.
  • Avior
    Avior 20 July 2020 08: 06 New
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    . received the position of head of the executive committee of the National Reform Council.

    A position that does not affect anything, imperceptible and far from financial flows - on the principle of “on and off”
    Nobody cares about Saakashvili, so he’s self-promoting, so that they don’t forget
    It seems they were not hurt, they gave the position, in memory of his scandals with Poroshenko, but
    A position such that does not affect anything, a dummy, but he is not used to being in the shade, the soul of PR requires, it’s like a drug
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 20 July 2020 08: 17 New
    +2
    By “we,” does he mean Zelensky’s gang? Yes they can lose. The rest have long since lost everything.
  • Lebed
    Lebed 20 July 2020 10: 08 New
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    With the likes of Mishiko, of course there is no future.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 July 2020 11: 06 New
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    If someone recalls the rogue Saakshvili, then someone really needs it.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 20 July 2020 11: 28 New
    +3
    In general, all of Ukraine is already a de facto confederation ... And this is one of the main "overwhelmed" maydanutyh !!!

    A pun on the topic: In Ukraine, the Ukrainian Mishiko is again quarreling with the Ukrainian Arsen ??? And where did so many sultry Caucasian Ukrainians come from to Ukraine ???
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 20 July 2020 12: 35 New
    +3
    There is nothing to lose, she was stillborn in many respects because of such Saak.
  • Andobor
    Andobor 20 July 2020 12: 55 New
    +1
    Ukraine will not fall apart - Russia will not give it, Russia needs all of Ukraine - all without the Americans, it is possible without the Ukrainians, but these are their problems.
    1. iouris
      iouris 20 July 2020 15: 16 New
      +1
      There are no Ukrainians in Ukraine for a long time. And it is already impossible to help the population that still exists there. I am afraid that the next candidate for the place of Ukraine is Belarus, everything is heading towards this.
      1. Andobor
        Andobor 20 July 2020 23: 01 New
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        Quote: iouris
        I am afraid that the next candidate for the place of Ukraine is Belarus, everything is heading towards this.

        Russia has mastered the weapon of hybrid wars, and is using it in full even across the States, so it will not give up Belarus for sure - and Ukraine was otmaidanized even when Russia itself was impoverished and helpless like modern Ukraine.
  • iouris
    iouris 20 July 2020 15: 13 New
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    Saakashvili is in such a shape that he will not be lost. And everyone knows that too.
  • BAI
    BAI 20 July 2020 20: 26 New
    +1
    According to Saakashvili, the actions of the current Ukrainian officials could lead to the complete disappearance of the Ukrainian state.

    Flag in their hands.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 21 July 2020 10: 24 New
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      Saakashvili: In this form, we can lose Ukraine, and this is beyond doubt
      Mishiko will not believe - we will not wait for YOU and LIKE YOU to lose Ukraine !!!