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Strategic industry of Ukraine: there is a ministry, no plants

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On July 16, Kiev created an entire ministry for strategic industries. Moreover, Oleg Urusky, who headed the newborn department, is also endowed with the powers of a deputy prime minister. According to the official, at the moment his most important task is to "restart" the country's military-industrial complex. As a matter of fact, this was already obvious, since in fact only defense enterprises remained in state property in the “nezalezhnoy”, and even then not all of them.


Urusky has already had a meeting with the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov, at which, according to the press service of the National Security and Defense Council, the Deputy Prime Minister received very valuable instructions regarding his own tasks. After that, he managed to talk to journalists, to whom he expressed his own vision of the mission entrusted to him of “reviving” and “restarting” the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. The intentions were voiced very promising and ambitious. It was about "innovations", "attracting foreign investment", "developing road maps." Of the specifics, we can only name the intentions of the new minister to "completely reformat" the state concern "Ukroboronprom" that has become subordinate to him, whose activities he is categorically not satisfied with.

He called Urusky and the main areas on which he intends to concentrate. This is the creation of armored vehicles, aircraft construction, the aerospace industry, rocketry and the creation of "high-precision weapons". Having achieved success precisely in these areas, he expects to "provide the Ukrainian army with modern high-tech weapons."

Well, the goals are ambitious, but what about the possibilities of achieving them?

Let's go briefly on the main points voiced by the "main strategic industry", consider the real state of the objects of this very industry in Ukraine. What's the first thing we have? Armored vehicles? Having visited in November last year at the Kharkov plant of transport engineering named after. V. A. Malysheva, President Zelensky said that he was “shocked” by what he saw and heard. It was from what: according to the director of the enterprise, for the last decade they have assembled ... one tank for the Ukrainian army! The rest: repair, restoration and desperate attempts to fulfill export contracts, which over the past few years have turned into enormous complaints for the plant due to the extremely poor quality of the products. Hence the debts (both to counterparties and to staff), which at the end of last year were approaching 450 million dollars.

Further, it seems, the aircraft industry ... In the same Kharkov is located aviation the plant, which since 2015 has not produced a single winged car, but tightly bogged down in debt (only salaries to its own employees by the beginning of this year have not been paid in excess of $ 8 million) and outstanding contracts. The same Kazakhstan, tired of waiting for the promised (and partially already paid) An-74, has been trying for several years to “knock out” the advance payment transferred to the aircraft manufacturers through the courts. What else? The problems of the famous Antonov (which, incidentally, Urusky did not forget to mention before the press) have long become commonplace. The same история: new aircraft are not produced, and only the operation of machines created back in Soviet times or the first years of “non-fallowing” saves from bankruptcy. But they are not eternal ...

Space? Rocketry? Ukrainian "prospects" in these areas become clear after the revelations sounded in one of the speeches of Yuriy Voyt, the general director of an enterprise that is specialized in these industries - the famous Yuzhmash. According to the head of the enterprise, where up to 55 thousand people worked in the USSR, and now it’s exactly ten times less, wage arrears exceeded 8 and a half million dollars. The debt for electricity is more than a million dollars. If it is turned off (and this is quite possible), there is a danger that the storage facilities for heptyl, liquid rocket fuel, available at the facilities owned by the enterprise, will explode. There is no government support. No orders. And it is not expected.

And so it is everywhere. Moreover, the main problem is not even the lack of budget funding. Not in extremely low salaries in any of the "strategic" industries (at the same "Yuzhmash" missile creators receive 6-7 thousand hryvnia, that is, 25-27 thousand rubles). Oleg Urusky himself admits: the end of the Ukrainian "defense industry", of all high-tech enterprises was the severing of ties with Russia! As an example, he cites the collapse of the project of the An-70 military transport aircraft, which Ukraine is not able to produce independently. And what does the “newly made” minister intend to do about this? He is talking about the “sale of shares of Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing companies to Boeing and Airbus!”

This is, in principle, as realistic as the "corporatization" of the Ukrainian automobile plant ZAZ, which produced Zaporozhtsy and was sold under the hammer for debts last year with the participation of the Mercedes-Benz concern. Especially in the current conditions, when, due to an unprecedented global crisis in the field of air transportation, the leading giants of the aircraft industry are struggling to keep afloat at the cost of mass layoffs and phasing out of production.

Ukraine now has a Ministry of Strategic Industry. That's just the industry itself with such "realistic" plans for its revival will soon not be left at all.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 20 July 2020 15: 06
    +7
    "Strategic industry of Ukraine" - here at this phrase I was struck by Homeric laughter, if there is something strategic, then it belongs to the United States! laughing
    1. credo
      credo 20 July 2020 15: 40
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      "Strategic industry of Ukraine" - here at this phrase I was struck by Homeric laughter, if there is something strategic, then it belongs to the United States! laughing

      In light of the latest demands on Zelensky from various opposition parties, individual deputies, some regional officials and just ordinary people about resignation and early resignation, the creation of the Ministry of Strategic Industries is just about the fact that Zelensky "when he works, eats , sleeps and makes love with his wife (and maybe not only with her) thinks only of the country and the people. "
      In general, a social fire in the country needs to be extinguished in any way, so that it does not flare up again, so he creates unnecessary ministries for anyone except himself.
      And it's not even worth talking about the entry of large foreign capital into Ukraine for the development of local industry, it is enough to look at Russia, which, if I may say “good,” after the 90s, so much that it still cannot revive many successful Soviet enterprises, where foreign "investors" were allowed into the henhouse like a fox.
      1. Finches
        Finches 20 July 2020 15: 44
        +1
        That's right, you noticed!
    2. knn54
      knn54 20 July 2020 16: 47
      0
      NEVER rests.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 July 2020 17: 32
      0
      Quote: Finches
      "Strategic Industry of Ukraine"

      Another anecdote from the "95th quarter".
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 20 July 2020 17: 44
      0
      Quote: Finches
      "Strategic industry of Ukraine" - here at this phrase I was struck by Homeric laughter,

      it is sinful to laugh at the poor!
      1. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 20 July 2020 20: 09
        -1
        so over the poor ... and our "roystvenniki", so to speak, are flawed, from the word completely ...
    5. bandabas
      bandabas 20 July 2020 21: 16
      0
      We have a lot of strategic things left in Russia. And, here is the question of who owns what for a long time remains "mysterious".
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 July 2020 15: 06
    +2
    Strategic industry of Ukraine: there is a ministry, no plants
    This is not so critical. In Czechoslovakia there was a ministry of the Navy (from a joke) repeat
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 20 July 2020 16: 21
      +4
      ... the main areas I intend to focus on. This is the creation of armored vehicles, aircraft, aerospace, rocket science and the creation of "high-precision weapons"

      Yes, we are not interested ... No. here we hear an analogy of these words ...
      And, here is where Urusky planned to cut and divide for the year that he will hold on this position, this is an interesting question winked
      1. truck driver
        truck driver 20 July 2020 20: 52
        0
        Well, Duc Zaporozhye plant, whether the Chinese or the Americans decide how to warm up.
  3. Lebed
    Lebed 20 July 2020 15: 07
    13
    This is the price of independence.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 20 July 2020 15: 30
      +2
      Independence must be quoted wink
      1. Lebed
        Lebed 20 July 2020 15: 48
        15
        Quote: Mitroha
        Independence must be quoted

        Exactly, I didn't think ...
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 21 July 2020 07: 42
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        Independence must be quoted wink

        A, better in - jump ropes winked
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 20 July 2020 15: 33
      +2
      Quote: Lebed
      This is the price of independence.

      So there is no need to destroy a big mind
    3. credo
      credo 20 July 2020 15: 47
      +4
      Quote: Lebed
      This is the price of independence.

      If it was only about independence, this would be all right, but here is the very case when a good and even somewhere successful industry was simply left on starvation rations and plundered, pumping out profits into foreign accounts and other personal pleasures.
      In fact, the so-called. "Ukrainian independence" turned into a banal theft of those who stood at the helm of the country and, apparently, they did not want anything else.
    4. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 20 July 2020 18: 11
      -2
      Quote: Lebed
      This is the price of independence.

      Rather, the price of management with the Hohland specificity. recourse
  4. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN 20 July 2020 15: 14
    +3
    This ministry will master the crumbs that the state allocates for the defense industry (salaries for officials, comfortable leather chairs, executive cars, etc.)
  5. Svarog
    Svarog 20 July 2020 15: 17
    +3
    They have admirals .. but there is no fleet ... There is already one name from the state ..
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 20 July 2020 15: 34
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      There is already one name from the state ..

      But how they inflate ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 July 2020 17: 34
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        But how they inflate ...

        And the bellies are eating up.
  6. Vovk
    Vovk 20 July 2020 15: 20
    +4
    This, in principle, is as realistic as the “corporatization” of the Ukrainian ZAZ automobile plant, which produced Zaporozhets and sold last year for hammer debts with the participation of the Mercedes-Benz concern.

    The funny thing is, who bought ZAZ?
    You won't guess in life - Renault (VAZ)!
    Russia has bought ZAZ and is going to use the old VAZ line to stamp Renault Arkana for the local market.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 July 2020 15: 40
      0
      Has Renault already re-registered in Russia?
      Confused nothing?
      It would be more correct to say that Renault is buying up factories in the post-Soviet space: ((
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 20 July 2020 16: 01
        +7
        He does the right thing by buying. If earlier it was impossible to look in the direction of Lada without shuddering, now AvtoVAZ products look quite decent. And KAMAZ with the participation of Daimler has become very even.
    2. svp67
      svp67 20 July 2020 15: 40
      +4
      Quote: Vovk
      The funny thing is, who bought ZAZ?

      But nothing funny. The equipment produced in Russia is the most adapted to our realities, that is, to fuel, roads, maintenance, etc.
      Here in Ukraine they started to produce, read the assembly of GAZ cars, while trucks, of the GazelNext family, but under their own name ... And this is logically correct.
  7. Incompetent
    Incompetent 20 July 2020 15: 23
    -2
    Well, they will make equipment from what they have, and they will buy the missing components in the West, what is the problem? In order to annoy Russia, nothing is a pity. And if Putin had helped Yanyk in 2014, then there would have been fewer victims and all enterprises would have worked for us, as well as
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 20 July 2020 15: 36
      +3
      Quote: Incompetent
      And if Putin helped Yanyk in 2014,

      And he helped him stay alive
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 July 2020 17: 37
      -1
      Quote: Incompetent
      In order to annoy Russia, nothing is a pity.

      They want to spoil, but there is no salt.
  8. prior
    prior 20 July 2020 15: 25
    -1
    "Strategic industry of Ukraine" - the production of lard, and even that is tired.
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 July 2020 15: 55
      +7
      They don’t already have fat, they buy raw materials in Poland ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 July 2020 17: 39
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        They no longer have bacon, raw materials are purchased in Poland

        I saw in Tallinn at the bazaar, "Ukrainian lard with garlic. Produced in Poland."
        1. cniza
          cniza 20 July 2020 20: 38
          +3
          Well, this is just a publicity stunt. lol
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 July 2020 08: 44
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            Well, this is just a publicity stunt.

            No, at the market that you are. Yes, and this is the name of the product, one label, and the second is the description of the product in Estonian and the manufacturer.
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 July 2020 08: 53
              +1
              That's what I say, Poles use the trademark ...
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 21 July 2020 08: 57
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                That's what I say, Poles use the trademark ...

                Yes, they even use "Doctor's sausage" and other brands of the USSR, as well as the Germans.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 21 July 2020 09: 03
                  0
                  And they are already using your nostalgia for the USSR and it works. By the way, the recipe for the doctor's sausage was personally approved by I.V. Stalin.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 20 July 2020 15: 57
      +2
      Quote: prior
      "Strategic Industry of Ukraine" -

      Well, if there are more admirals than ships, why not create
      Ministry of Strategic Industries.

      Without the industry itself as such
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 20 July 2020 15: 41
    +5
    After the collapse of the USSR, none of the former republics, conditionally Switzerland or France, became Germany ...
  10. cniza
    cniza 20 July 2020 15: 54
    +4
    That's just the industry itself with such "realistic" plans for its revival will soon not be left at all.


    And the West will do everything that it never revives ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 20 July 2020 16: 25
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      That's just the industry itself with such "realistic" plans for its revival will soon not be left at all.


      And the West will do everything that it never revives ...

      That's right, she (the USA) and her industry have nowhere to go ... Everything that is needed and not necessary will be forced to buy from her and will not be asked.
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 July 2020 16: 30
        +3
        Naturally, and they rolled their lips for a revival, who will give them ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 July 2020 17: 41
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          Naturally, and they rolled their lips for a revival, who will give them ...

          Not in order to destroy it, then to create.
          1. cniza
            cniza 20 July 2020 20: 40
            +1
            There wolves decide who to eat and who to eat ...
  11. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 20 July 2020 16: 05
    +2
    The sooner the Soviet industry giants will be disposed of (Yuzhmash Antonov Turboatom, etc.) the better for the Russian Federation. In the dill atom, they used absolutely all the weapons that were in action. And if there were a Strategic Missile Forces and long-range aviation, would they use it !! So that’s all for scrap. Long live decommunization in dill !!
  12. major147
    major147 20 July 2020 16: 39
    +4
    "It was about 'innovations', 'attracting foreign investment', 'developing roadmaps.'

    This is called "playing violent diarrhea with severe constipation"!

    Meanwhile, in Russia:
    PJSC United Engine Corporation has opened a new center for the production of helicopter engine assemblies. At the moment, this is the largest specialized production in Russia, about 8,7 billion rubles were invested in its creation.
    The launched giant plant can be called a verdict for the Ukrainian Motor Sich, with which Russian specialists had to cooperate earlier. Until 2014, Russia acquired the TV3-117 aircraft power units from this enterprise, but now fully localized versions of these engines will be produced in the Russian Federation. The site will also be producing other helicopter engines with a capacity of up to 5 thousand horsepower. In particular, Ufa will create an analogue of TV3-117 - VK-2500, VK-650V, VK-1600V.
    According to the report of the first deputy general director of the State Corporation Rastech Vladimir Artyakov, the new plant is a modern and high-tech center. In the production of engines, the latest equipment will be used and technologies that increase labor productivity will be introduced ...
  13. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 20 July 2020 16: 59
    0
    There are still factories, but soon they will not be, there will be deserted ruins. And there were almost no personnel left: young people scatter, and old people die out.
    And the "strategic industry of Ukraine" is a mockery.
    1. truck driver
      truck driver 20 July 2020 21: 05
      +1
      They actually turn the country into a land of migrant workers, everyone who has worked in Europe no longer wants to go back, and more and more of them are already starting to leave their families.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 06
    -1
    But haven’t they still let go of the needles?
    So the western guardians will help!
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 July 2020 17: 21
    -1
    The Banderlog's strategic industry, in my opinion, is closer to Jules Verne or Isaac Asimov.
  16. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 20 July 2020 20: 46
    +2
    Yes gentlemen. I don’t know how it is now, but as of six years ago, the industry was very sour in UA.
    Maybe there they periodically tried to throw a bone to the tankers from ZIM, to rocket-builders, engine-builders that were kept afloat due to orders from Russia.
    And our brother Sudostroy is completely dead. I didn't even plan to remember for my diplomas. And return to this industry.
    Random orders from China or Greece are one-time promotions. On the remains of the remainder. That led to an emergency at the plant with casualties of personnel.
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 20 July 2020 20: 59
    +1
    There are only two interesting points about this:
    1 Where will the investments come from, in a country where there is a war?
    2 A plant that has not produced aircraft for 5 years can be considered a corpse. It will be easier to start all over again than to revive the old aircraft building complex.
  18. xomaNN
    xomaNN 20 July 2020 22: 07
    +2

    Sunset of the military-industrial complex in reality. When that 15 thousand worked in the mailbox. of the city of Ch. Less than 300 left without salaries of pensioners and ruins of buildings
  19. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 20 July 2020 22: 08
    +2
    Most commentators express stormy joy that the neighboring country is dying and relish this fact in every way.
    Friends, let us nevertheless remain people for whom the grief of others is not a reason for joy.
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 20 July 2020 22: 30
      -1
      Quote: Hlavaty
      Most commentators express stormy joy that the neighboring country is dying and relish this fact in every way.

      If Ukraine did not exist, it should be invented.
      For the Russian Federation, this is an outlet. There is where to gloat over the same processes. It's just faster in Ukraine. And there is almost no oil and gas.
      The giants of Soviet industry in the conditions of a complete break in ties are already very vulnerable.
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 20 July 2020 22: 44
        +2
        Quote: Cristall
        There is a place to gloat about the same processes, it's just faster in Ukraine

        I think that Ukraine and the Russian Federation should not even be compared. It's like comparing a soccer player to a ball. It seems that both are participating in the same game ... but in a very different quality.
        As it has been repeatedly emphasized: Ukraine is not a player in a geopolitical game, but simply one of the game figures (a set of resources, etc.) that global players play.
        For all the problems of the Russian Federation, it is still a player. And it can influence the global game. Ukraine cannot influence - its moves are FULLY controlled from the outside.

        The last example: when the Ukrainian government decided at least a little to support its domestic producer, and only prepared a draft decision that goods that at least in the smallest part (even a drop) were made in Ukraine, could take part in state tenders. Partially localized, so to speak.
        A formidable cry from Europe followed, and the Ukrainian government immediately forgot about its project. Although no points of the Association with the EU were violated. Europe itself does not care what is written in that Association. They can just shout "To the leg!" and Ukraine will take its place.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 21 July 2020 07: 55
          0
          Quote: Hlavaty
          A formidable shout from Europe followed and the Ukrainian government immediately forgot about its project.

          The EU showed its view of the industry of the annexed territories by the example of Bulgaria and the Baltic states. He in every possible way seeks to suppress the beginnings of competitive production and is only interested in pumping out the able-bodied population because of his own demographic problems. On the other hand, the United States is doing everything to prevent the Ukrainian potential even in a separated future from strengthening Russia, and ideally also weaken it as much as possible. Therefore, it is quite logical that the external players dominating the politics of Ukraine today are not at all interested in its industrial development. For our part, we have already received a neighbor who for the next twenty years will not become our friendly side. And therefore they themselves are not interested in its production strengthening. And even if Ukraine is split into separate independent territories in the near future, it will require us to make economic costs, in comparison with which spending on Crimea will seem like a mere trifle.
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 21 July 2020 12: 11
            0
            Quote: Hagen
            And even if Ukraine is split into separate independent territories in the near future, it will require us to make economic costs, in comparison with which spending on Crimea will seem like a mere trifle.

            This is not entirely true.
            Crimea has never been and was not even planned as some kind of industrial center. Local islands of the shipbuilding industry did not change the picture. Therefore, Crimea has always been unprofitable, always demanded additional injections. Well, in independent Ukraine, he simply plundered cleanly. I remember when in 2007 I walked through the central village of the former Crimean collective farm-millionaire and was amazed to observe not even ruins, but ideally empty bald patches overgrown with grass in the place where once there was a large machine-tractor station (dozens of combines and tractors), repair mechanical workshops, a garage for a couple of dozen trucks, poultry houses, cowsheds ... It just sucked out like a giant vacuum cleaner.

            A completely different region is the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih basin, or as South-Eastern Ukraine is now called (Zaporozhye, Dnieper, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Donetsk, Lugansk). A unique natural place where a rich set of fossils, the large Dnieper river, and also the famous black soil have come together. That is, a place where you can develop almost any industry. And that was done. Stalin invested gigantic funds in the development of this region not out of love for the "Ukrainians". He just understood that there are very few such unique places on Earth. And the result was impressive - almost everything was produced here: from nails to wagons, diesel locomotives, airplanes, missiles, tanks and a lot of everything. Plus excellent conditions for agriculture. There is still some scientific and production potential left here.

            In general, there is no point in comparing Crimea and Southeastern Ukraine in order to say "Look: if so much money has been poured into Crimea, Russia simply will not be able to pull off Eastern Ukraine!" This is reasoning from the evil one.
            Crimea has always been and will be a subsidized region - there are just such natural conditions. It looks like a resort, but the holiday season is too short. It seems that the climate is suitable for agriculture, but there is no water, so-so soil, etc.
            Eastern Ukraine, with reasonable development, gives a gigantic return. And the investments are not as colossal as it seems and the result is incomparable with the Crimea.

            I think the Russian Federation made a big mistake that it did not annex Southeast Ukraine in 2014. Sanctions would be anyway because of the Crimea or because of the entire South-Eastern Ukraine, no matter. And with such an industrial region, the crisis and sanctions would have been easier to bear. Plus several tens of millions of new citizens would not be superfluous at all.

            But the train left. And we have what we have - the unique region returns to the virgin original-natural state of the Wild Field. And the Russian Federation gets itself a developing headache instead of a developing region. Remember the history - how many troubles Wild Field brought Russia until it solved this problem. Therefore, the West wants to recreate this Wild Field and its problem.

            I think that the Russian Federation will spend much more resources to solve the Wild Field problem than it would have spent on its accession in 2014 and further development.

            And there is no need to talk about any kind of return from the Wild Field.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 21 July 2020 16: 17
              -1
              Quote: Hlavaty
              This is not entirely true.
              Crimea has never been and was not even planned as some kind of industrial center.

              And who said about Crimea as an industrial region. Crimea, first of all, is a strategic and sacred-historical region. But he can feed himself. It is only necessary to tune its economy and make serious investments to overcome the difference in the average standard of living in relation to Russia.
              Quote: Hlavaty
              A completely different region is the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih basin, or as South-Eastern Ukraine is now called (Zaporozhye, Dnieper, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Donetsk, Lugansk).

              This is yes. And the population there thinks about joining with Russia there a little differently than in the Crimea. And if today there is a problem with the bureaucracy of former Ukrainians in Crimea, then a similar one in YUVU will be a headache that will not be compensated by the thought of the industrial potential of YUVU.
              Quote: Hlavaty
              I think the Russian Federation made a big mistake that it did not annex Southeast Ukraine in 2014.

              You have the right to think this way and that. And you can easily do it, because you will never have to organize it, and most importantly, be responsible for what you have done. And in the TV to give your advice, in the complete absence of a detailed picture of what is happening, a lot of wisdom and daring is not necessary. Our troops were stationed in the Crimea, which ensured the bloodless passage of the Crimea from one coast to another. And let the politicians talk about annexation, but the lawyers do not strongly agree with them. In the case with YUVU, it was necessary to openly send troops to the territory of a foreign state. And this is a completely different matter than in the Crimea. But you are obviously not a lawyer, much less an official, you don't care. Then you are not responsible for the consequences.
              Quote: Hlavaty
              I think that the Russian Federation will spend much more resources on solving the problem of the Wild Field than it would have spent on its accession in 2014

              Maybe yes. But we will solve problems as they come. In any case, there is no way to control them from our sofas. To do this, I chose a president and trusted his decision.
  20. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 20 July 2020 23: 07
    -4
    It’s becoming more and more difficult to find out what the Ukrainians have ended up with. About fat, vodka, sugar, butter, gas, chernozom, industry - they wrote repeatedly.
    You have to invent. A whole strategic industry.

    And at VO just recently it was that the Russian Federation quietly, without publicity, was selling to the last (and maybe even now) titanium and aluminum for aviation and missiles ... But this is so, not for the press, t-sss ...
  21. Alexander Barinov
    Alexander Barinov 21 July 2020 04: 14
    -1
    Sorry, why do Ukraine * factories?
    Gorilka, fat, debauchery, trades, robberies and banditry - this is what should be in it *.
  22. Nikita, f
    Nikita, f 21 July 2020 11: 20
    0
    What's with the hryvnia exchange rate? 2,5 rubles like not what? Since when is 7000 hryvnia equal to 27000 rubles? Or on Yuzhmash the hryvnia has its own course ??
  23. CBR600
    CBR600 21 July 2020 11: 45
    +1
    I'm not funny ... There is a ministry, but no industry. Who understood the thread?
    Well, there is a strategic industry. And then, within the framework of food security? Academics are very sad for this.
  24. NF68
    NF68 21 July 2020 16: 19
    -1
    They have now moved on to "strategic" digging of ditches and setting up fences.
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    1. NF68
      NF68 22 July 2020 16: 24
      0
      Quote: Boris Radevich_2
      Glory to Ukraine Glory to the Heroes!


      Hero-sala!
  26. wow
    wow 23 July 2020 19: 29
    0
    So what ! Our business is to crow, and then let the sun not rise ...
  27. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 25 July 2020 00: 47
    +1
    The main thing is to create a ministry, and there "itself" somehow everything will be formed !!! It is also necessary to create a ministry for the correct salting of lard, without this ALL non-salted lard was not salted correctly !!! And the ministry for correct jumping is also urgent and very necessary !!! All the troubles are because EVERYTHING is not jumping correctly !!! And you say the economy - everything rests on the RIGHT fat and RIGHT jumping, that is the question and it has not been solved at the moment.