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UAV Hunter: zone of possible applicability - almost all NATO countries

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UAV Hunter: zone of possible applicability - almost all NATO countries

One of the promising weapons that should soon appear in the Russian Aerospace Forces is the Hunter heavy attack drone, which began to be created as part of the S-70 program. To date, the prototype of the “Hunter” has passed a series of tests at the airport (including the “jump”) and in the sky. One of the test flights was paired with a fifth-generation Su-57 fighter.


Particular attention in relation to the ongoing work on the Russian heavy attack drone is drawn to its capabilities in terms of range and duration of combat missions. If you believe the data that began to be published recently, the radius of combat use is up to 3 thousand km.

If we assume the future deployment of this type of drones at one of the airfields near the western borders of Russia (for example, along the Bryansk-Smolensk-Pskov line), then we can determine that hypothetical circle with the above radius. In other words, if suddenly it really comes to the combat use of the "Hunter", then the schedule will show which territories it is able to reach during the flight, taking into account the return to the base airfield, what is the target area, even without taking into account the radius of the missiles used.

With the range of applicability of the Russian "Hunter" with its previously announced characteristics in range, almost all European NATO countries fall.


The radius of the Russian attack drone allows it to “reach” territories all the way to Madrid in the west, to Turkish Diyarbakir and further to the south, to cover all of Norway in the northwest.



It is clear that in the event of a conflict with NATO countries, the least that may be needed is to “drive” strike drones to the western borders of the European part of the North Atlantic military bloc. Another question is the demonstration of strength and capabilities as a response to the ongoing implementation of NATO's enlargement policy. The emergence of Russian drones, which, as previously reported, will be equipped with electronic warfare systems, over the neutral waters of the Mediterranean and the North Atlantic is a mission that can play an important role in terms of defending its interests by Russia.

By the way, when placing the "Hunters" in the Far East, the territories of the USA and Canada fall into the zone of applicability.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 19 July 2020 14: 17 New
    -4
    Our people do not know how to advertise!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 July 2020 14: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      Our people do not know how to advertise!

      You saw a note somewhere: "Information (publication) as advertising" ?
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 19 July 2020 14: 56 New
        +1
        area of ​​possible applicability - almost all ...

        Was this bastard going to school in the bastard?

        Well, you have to twist your cerebellum like that!

        A possible area of ​​application is at the end.
        Are you saying that the size of this zone is all of Europe? So write about it.

        Why read Tolstoy, Turgenev, Pushkin?

        Well, you gentlemen writing notes, at least listen to Vysotsky. You do not need to read, just turn it on and listen to how the Russian person speaks.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 19 July 2020 15: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Well, you have to twist your cerebellum like that!

          A possible area of ​​application is at the end.

          Vladimir! You comments that you do not read below? Or.....? belay
          1. krot
            krot 19 July 2020 18: 04 New
            -6
            Let NATO members piss off! Soon they will also fight. Literally stated?)))
            1. ver_
              ver_ 20 July 2020 12: 50 New
              -1
              ... the ways of the Lord are inscrutable - you can even get a ban for mentioning the deep people in the wrong context ..
      2. ancient
        ancient 19 July 2020 18: 22 New
        13
        Quote: Insurgent
        You saw a note somewhere

        Well, and stupid "reasoning-wish-wishlist" or ... "curve PR" based on ... an EMPTY place ... is that okay? wassat
        In order to "warn someone2 with such ..." scribbles ", you must first of all HAVE it in your arsenal.
        Su-24 and Su-27 were placed in the GSVG and the SGV, and ... the whole "NAT" ... became with "wet pants".
        Iskander appeared in the Kaliningrad region and ......
        And then what .... UAV can still be said in .. "embryo" .... Su-57 in service ..... "! Most not funny" ... 1-2 aircraft per year?
        Whom and what are you going to scare with. Have NATO air defense ever been ... "studied"? bully
        "Overcome" you are tortured ... without "preliminary preparation and provision" ..... but with this the same ... the problem today.
        You suggest .. "zhahnut and ... the whole world in dust" ... I agree ... but then it’s not clear at all ... why "send the UAV"?
        Tactical radius ... 3000 km? ... It is quite possible if you put a "nuclear power plant" ... as an option ........ well, and the possible occurrence of an OCP over your territory ... how do you like this option?
        What and how ... will you "clean up"?
        In general, the appearance of such .. "scribbles" and .. "drawing" on a serious site ... causes, to put it mildly ... surprise .... or is it already ... "murzilka"? wassat
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 19 July 2020 19: 35 New
          +3
          I support! Single copies and regiments and connections are a completely different state of affairs.
      3. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 19 July 2020 20: 18 New
        0
        There is a more effective means, for example, a dagger rocket. Saturated air defense of the countries of Europe dictate whether the hunter will remain unnoticed
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 19 July 2020 14: 30 New
      -5
      Quote: Alien From
      Our people do not know how to advertise!

      Not. Only
      a demonstration of strength and capabilities in response to the ongoing implementation of NATO's expansion policy.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 19 July 2020 14: 40 New
        15
        UAV Hunter: zone of possible applicability - almost all NATO countries

        It seems to me that the "zone of possible application" sounds more solid than the "zone of possible application". yes
        1. figwam
          figwam 19 July 2020 14: 52 New
          -4
          Assuming the future deployment of this type of drones at one of the airfields near the western borders of Russia (for example, along the Bryansk-Smolensk-Pskov line)

          It is not necessary to be so close to the borders, it should be based 300-400 kilometers from the border, let it refuel better in the air.
          1. ancient
            ancient 19 July 2020 18: 31 New
            +6
            Quote: figvam
            should be based 300-400 kilometers from the border

            And what is the point ... if he "may be able to ... refuel"? wassat
            At least on another continent let .. "live" ... took off ... refueled ... took off ... refueled ... just ... "poser" ... looms ... with such .. "weight- overall data "and the declared performance characteristics (V 1000 km / h and Rd so. - 3000 km) ... he will need to" refuel ... every 400-500 km of flight range). wink
          2. Aag
            Aag 19 July 2020 18: 47 New
            0
            Quote: figvam
            Assuming the future deployment of this type of drones at one of the airfields near the western borders of Russia (for example, along the Bryansk-Smolensk-Pskov line)

            It is not necessary to be so close to the borders, it should be based 300-400 kilometers from the border, let it refuel better in the air.

            Did I miss something again? Is Bryansk already at the western borders of the Russian Federation?
            ... Even if you "measure" with HEAVY UAVs! NATA is pressing, where are we going to squeeze? To the Urals? For from all sides ...
            "... it's better to refuel in the air ..." It is as if I missed something! ... No, well, maybe from the point of view that we have fewer "Hunters" than winged strategists ... And so they give their own names. ..
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 19 July 2020 14: 53 New
          +6
          It seems to me that the "zone of possible application" sounds more solid than the "zone of possible application".

          The Yankees, an analogue of the Hunter, were already planted on an aircraft carrier in 2010, but they have not found combat use for 10 years. We will teach the bourgeoisie drinks
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 19 July 2020 15: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: Tusv
            The Yankees, an analogue of the Hunter, were already planted on an aircraft carrier in 2010, but they have not found combat use for 10 years. We will teach the bourgeoisie

            Greetings, Vladimir! drinks
            I agree, but it is better to teach bourgeois not as an experienced unit, but as a full-fledged squadron of "Hunters". So it will be more understandable for the bourgeoisie and for us. yes
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 19 July 2020 15: 14 New
              +1
              Alexander, down there at the time of the comment, nothing was
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 19 July 2020 15: 18 New
                +2
                Quote: Tusv
                Alexander, down there at the time of the comment, nothing was

                Vladimir! In my comment above, I referred to a visitor under the nickname "Vladimir 16". He just almost duplicated my comment. drinks
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 19 July 2020 15: 22 New
                  +1
                  So he's not a paramilitary even once
            2. ancient
              ancient 19 July 2020 18: 48 New
              +4
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              I agree, but it is better to teach bourgeois not as an experienced unit, but as a full-fledged squadron of "Hunters".

              Aha ..... start right now ... now ...... "teachers" wassat
            3. Tusv
              Tusv 19 July 2020 20: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: SRC P-15
              I agree, but it is better to teach bourgeois not as an experienced unit, but as a full-fledged

              And here it is not necessary to be clever. I took out a pistol - shoot
          2. ancient
            ancient 19 July 2020 18: 47 New
            +9
            Quote: Tusv
            Yankees, an analogue of the Hunter was already put on an aircraft carrier in 2010

            The Yankees, yes, .. the French even earlier "rolled out" for review ... but all these are experimental concepts designed to practice new advanced technologies that are necessary to create autonomous combat unmanned carrier-based aircraft.
            The program was completed successfully .. we stopped only at the production of refuelers, since in the shock version their production is too expensive.
            Therefore, on account of the fact that ... "we will teach the bourgeois" ...... it is you ... strongly .. "modest" lol wassat
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 19 July 2020 14: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      Our people do not know how to advertise!

      And, apparently, that's why they sent you to study earthly advertising technologies. Well, since you are here, in order not to run far, try to turn to Shpakovsky first (he is kalibr here).
      True, he does nothing for free, he does not even give links. laughing
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 19 July 2020 15: 31 New
        -3
        Thanks for the advice!
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 19 July 2020 14: 41 New
      +5
      Oh, this mysterious Promotion. Wash your ears, no?
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 19 July 2020 15: 23 New
      +8
      The absence of shock drones in the army is compensated by an abundance of tales about how omnipotent they are. ... The same Turks and Persians gagged us in the belt, because without any self-promotion they massively build and use shock drones in combat. And we have been driving one model for years, but we are hanging on our own ears about how soon this model will hit the enemy. ....
    6. snake
      snake 19 July 2020 15: 54 New
      +5
      Serial production is still very far away, but everyone has already been bombed out and defeated.
      Here, in a warlike excitement, Voivode Palmerston strikes Russia on the map, with his index finger!
    7. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 19 July 2020 18: 07 New
      +1
      but in my opinion they are only doing this - only this is not advertising, but just PR and propaganda
  2. Courier
    Courier 19 July 2020 14: 30 New
    +2
    Does the RF orbital group allow you to control the drone at such distances?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 19 July 2020 14: 44 New
      -2
      Quote: Courier
      Does the RF orbital group allow you to control the drone at such distances?

      Counterquestion. Can the Yankees do that?
      1. ancient
        ancient 19 July 2020 18: 57 New
        12
        Quote: Tusv
        Can the Yankees do that?

        Yes, for 10 years already .... both in the "machine" and through a remote operator (through relay communication systems). well, using its own satellite constellation.
        Or do you think that the UAV RQ-4 Global Hawk for 10-14 hours flying freely along our borders back and forth by anyone and in any way ... "is not controlled? wassat
        1. Aag
          Aag 19 July 2020 19: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: ancient
          Quote: Tusv
          Can the Yankees do that?

          Yes, for 10 years already .... both in the "machine" and through a remote operator (through relay communication systems). well, using its own satellite constellation.
          Or do you think that the UAV RQ-4 Global Hawk for 10-14 hours flying freely along our borders back and forth by anyone and in any way ... "is not controlled? wassat

          A normal question was raised, guys. I'm talking about management. But. It is necessary to separate management in conditions of "cold" confrontation, local conflicts, up to war by "usual" means, and general armageddon. Here, depending on the concept of construction, everything can change dramatically. Let the "giraffes" (V. Vysotsky) decide what we are guided by ...
          1. ancient
            ancient 19 July 2020 19: 54 New
            12
            Quote: AAG
            It is necessary to separate management in the conditions of "cold" confrontation, local conflicts, up to war by "usual" means, and general Armageddon

            I agree ... just to tell an episode of their life - in the early 80s, in one hot country wink , at no less "hot" airfield ... they brought us a VHF radio station (2 sets) from one "very modern at that time" adversary plane bully
            Unfolded. "Powered" ...... "hello garage" .. everything works. An-12BK-PPS took off ... "cut in" ... everything "died" at our airfield .... RTO and RTS could only be handed over for scrap metal, and VHF pulleys ... worked ... "like a clock " wassat
            The moral of this episode is ......... wassat crying
            1. Aag
              Aag 19 July 2020 20: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: ancient
              Quote: AAG
              It is necessary to separate management in the conditions of "cold" confrontation, local conflicts, up to war by "usual" means, and general Armageddon

              I agree ... just to tell an episode of their life - in the early 80s, in one hot country wink , at no less "hot" airfield ... they brought us a VHF radio station (2 sets) from one "very modern at that time" adversary plane bully
              Unfolded. "Powered" ...... "hello garage" .. everything works. An-12BK-PPS took off ... "cut in" ... everything "died" at our airfield .... RTO and RTS could only be handed over for scrap metal, and VHF pulleys ... worked ... "like a clock " wassat
              The moral of this episode is ......... wassat crying

              Sorry, I didn't understand morality.
              Let's on the other hand. VHF communication for the overwhelming majority of pence (pensioners MO, IMHO, is the driving force of the VO site), this is R-123, R-173. If I am mistaken, correct ... And, I will say that in conditions of uneven terrain terrain, PGRK units often lose each other (which confirms the theses from the school textbook on physics regarding the propagation of VHF radio waves)))). The cellular communication of the accompanying gayts worked more stable. Question: What types of communication should be given preference in real interaction with the enemy?
              I'm talking about this, sorry if I didn't understand your message ...
      2. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 04 New
        0
        "Counter question. Can the Yankees do that?" - they know how. At least - they wrote that the flight of the LRASM-ER rocket is being corrected through satellites.
    2. Errr
      Errr 19 July 2020 15: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Courier
      Does the RF orbital group allow you to control the drone at such distances?
      To answer this question, you just need to read this address here (with transliteration taken into account): https://topwar.ru/92965-v-vks-rf-dlya-navigacii-ispolzuetsya-tolko-otechestvennaya-sistema-glonass.html, which literally means:
      Only the domestic system GLONASS is used in navigation system of the Russian Federation for navigation
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 19 July 2020 16: 37 New
        +1
        For especially smart ones. Without GLONASS, 20 percent duty. And the first one went just Ogryzok.
        Do you for the liberals. Apple honors our laws
        1. Errr
          Errr 19 July 2020 16: 51 New
          +2
          For those who are especially smart, this is not for me. laughing
          And I, in fact, about the control of UAVs at long distances by determining their location and issuing commands for maneuvering with the help of the domestic orbital group. smile What does "bitten apples" have to do with it?
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 19 July 2020 17: 09 New
            0
            Quote: Herrr
            And I, in fact, about the control of UAVs at long distances by determining their location and issuing commands for maneuvering with the help of the domestic orbital group.

            Not. This is not for us. To you in Darpa
          2. Voyager
            Voyager 19 July 2020 18: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Herrr
            What does "bitten apples" have to do with it?

            Apples have nothing to do with it, although the iPhone 4 was indeed the world's first smart supporting GLONASS. But your link is not the topic. The question was initially not what to support the UAV grouping, but whether GLONASS had enough opportunities for this.
          3. Avior
            Avior 19 July 2020 20: 13 New
            -2
            GLONASS does not issue commands for maneuvering
          4. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 01 New
            0
            "on the control of UAVs at long distances by determining their location and issuing commands for maneuvering with the help of a domestic orbital group" - this is suitable for peacetime or for a first strike (but we are a peace-loving country and will not be the first to attack). During a big war, satellites will be destroyed or their teams will be blocked. For a UAV of this level, AI is needed. And so far the trouble is not only with us. So the S-70 is R&D, but not a combat system.
        2. ancient
          ancient 19 July 2020 20: 00 New
          +9
          Quote: Tusv
          For especially smart. Without GLONASS 20 percent duty

          You know ... how much I used ... well, I never paid wassat
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 19 July 2020 20: 36 New
            -1
            Quote: ancient
            You know ... how much I used ... well, I never paid wassat

            You do not suspect to speak correctly. My first Nokia with GPS avno avnom. Stupid shove it wherever you want, but I won't go into the forest with an American
      2. ancient
        ancient 19 July 2020 18: 58 New
        +9
        Quote: Herrr
        Only the domestic system GLONASS is used in navigation system of the Russian Federation for navigation

        "Lie" ... shamelessly bully
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 19 July 2020 20: 09 New
          -2
          Quote: ancient
          "Lie" ... shamelessly bully

          But the northern neighbors prefer Glonass, but what are the Swedes. Infa passed what the Yankees themselves requested for 911. And your ji pis at low cloudiness is quite oh oh oh. You just don't know that the signal on your gadget is automatically translated to the Russian satellite
          1. ancient
            ancient 19 July 2020 20: 40 New
            +9
            Quote: Tusv
            You just don't know that the signal on your gadget is automatically translated to the Russian satellite

            Well, well ... when I started flying with the Garmins ... "our satellites" were only ... in the project wassat

            And about .. "urya-patriotism" ... it's not with me wink ..this is to "tovarizchu" 1976AG (Alexey)
  3. Bez 310
    Bez 310 19 July 2020 14: 35 New
    -12
    Oh!
    Again delirium about a non-existent weapon?
    In this we are "ahead of the whole planet."
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 July 2020 14: 39 New
      -3
      Quote: Bez 310
      Oh!
      Again delirium about a non-existent weapon?
      In this we are "ahead of the whole planet."

      Actually, the "Hunter" exists, it has already been shown more than once, and not in cartoons.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 19 July 2020 15: 11 New
        +2
        For me, "exists" is when a weapon is put into service,
        and supplied to the troops. And now the UAV "Okhotnik" exists in
        one copy, and cannot be called a weapon.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 19 July 2020 15: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: Bez 310
          For me, "exists" is when a weapon is put into service,
          and supplied to the troops. And now the UAV "Okhotnik" exists in
          one copy, and cannot be called a weapon.


          Then express yourself more precisely, and write, "for me personally" it does not exist.
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 19 July 2020 16: 50 New
            0
            UAV "Hunter does not exist not only
            "for me personally," but also for the RF Armed Forces.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 19 July 2020 16: 55 New
              -5
              Quote: Bez 310
              UAV "Hunter does not exist not only
              "for me personally," but also for the RF Armed Forces.

              And the RF Armed Forces vkurse about this?
              1. Bez 310
                Bez 310 19 July 2020 17: 00 New
                +4
                You can be sure.
                They even know that the Su-57 is not in service either.
                They still know a lot, but the "sofa iksperts" do not
                say to prevent mass suicides among
                "patriots".
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 19 July 2020 17: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: Bez 310
                  You can be sure.
                  They even know that the Su-57 is not in service either.
                  They still know a lot, but the "sofa iksperts" do not
                  say to prevent mass suicides among
                  "patriots".

                  Everyone knows that the Su-57 has not yet entered service. But the fact that "Hunter" does not exist, they do not know for sure. And the fact that not everyone tells you is right. Although you are a "couch", but still a man.
                  1. Bez 310
                    Bez 310 19 July 2020 18: 21 New
                    -2
                    No need to get personal
                    it not only does not paint you, but also
                    translates the discussion entirely into
                    another channel.
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 19 July 2020 18: 24 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Bez 310
                      No need to get personal
                      it not only does not paint you, but also
                      translates the discussion entirely into
                      another channel.

                      That is, it is beautiful in hints?
                      1. Bez 310
                        Bez 310 19 July 2020 18: 25 New
                        -1
                        If you don’t want to say anything about UAVs,
                        then I stop talking with you. Excuse me...
                      2. 1976AG
                        1976AG 19 July 2020 18: 29 New
                        0
                        As for the Hunter UAV, I have already said that it exists. What else did you want to know?
                      3. ancient
                        ancient 19 July 2020 20: 25 New
                        11
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        About UAV "Hunter"

                        Only as a prototype or ... an experimental specimen .... such "specimens" in the .. "backyard" at the LII .... as .. "shoe polish at ... shoe polish factory" .... "specialist" you are our wassat
                        This immediately ... to stop your "sabotage" wassat
                      4. 1976AG
                        1976AG 19 July 2020 20: 28 New
                        -1
                        So if you want to stop, why write? Or do you like to grimace with smiles? When there is nothing to say, only that remains. Kindergarten...
                      5. ancient
                        ancient 19 July 2020 20: 37 New
                        +8
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        So if you want to stop, why write?

                        1. I don’t like to be someone .. "owed" and leave insults unanswered.
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        Or do you like to grimace with smiles?

                        It's easier, more understandable, as it clearly shows your "essence" and competence ... well, you don't need to waste your nerves wassat
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        When there is nothing to say, only this remains.

                        You have to tell and prove something ... it's useless ... why waste time and yes ..... TTZ is a "Wishlist" and, as a rule, ..years after ... "twelve" something turns out from it ...usually wink
                      6. 1976AG
                        1976AG 19 July 2020 20: 38 New
                        -2
                        In vain you advertise your stupidity.
    2. ancient
      ancient 19 July 2020 18: 59 New
      10
      Quote: 1976AG
      And the RF Armed Forces vkurse about this?

      On 100% wink
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 19 July 2020 19: 31 New
        -1
        Quote: ancient
        Quote: 1976AG
        And the RF Armed Forces vkurse about this?

        On 100% wink


        Another "specialist" who does not understand the difference between "not in service" and "does not exist", but without understanding the essence of the conversation, he could not pass by ...
        1. ancient
          ancient 19 July 2020 20: 15 New
          +7
          Quote: 1976AG
          Another "specialist" who does not understand the difference between "not in service" and "does not exist"

          fellow fellow laughing wassat crying negative .... here, in short, clearly .. all the ways of your ... "understanding" soldier .. ". tovarizch" ... "specialist" wassat
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 19 July 2020 20: 21 New
            -1
            Quote: ancient
            Quote: 1976AG
            Another "specialist" who does not understand the difference between "not in service" and "does not exist"

            fellow fellow laughing wassat crying negative .... here, in short, clearly .. all the ways of your ... "understanding" soldier .. ". tovarizch" ... "specialist" wassat

            Do you also want to show your understanding, or can you guess yourself?)
    3. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 06 New
      +2
      In the course, there is no "Hunter" in the Air Force.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 20 July 2020 01: 09 New
        -2
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        In the course, there is no "Hunter" in the Air Force.


        And who is arguing?
  • Tusv
    Tusv 19 July 2020 15: 31 New
    -5
    Quote: Bez 310
    For me, "exists" is when a weapon is put into service,

    The Oplot tank was put into service and 10 units were recorded for themselves. About the further scandal? For a minute, Vityaz and Pantsir were doing for the bourgeoisie of the UAE and South Korea. And then for yourself. The first Knight entered the army only last year. The paramilitaries are more demanding. Yes Addestination
    1. Bez 310
      Bez 310 19 July 2020 16: 53 New
      +1
      I didn’t understand anything at all.
      We are talking about UAVs, and you are talking about the tank ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 July 2020 08: 57 New
        -1
        Pay attention to the quote. There is no word about UAVs hi
    2. L-39NG
      L-39NG 19 July 2020 19: 55 New
      -3
      For the bourgeoisie, this is understandable, but who do you consider yourself to be? Or is your system, direct socialist paradise or, God forbid, communist? You have a neo-imperialist system and do not say "NO", otherwise you will tear your pants. Bulgakov's heroes on you!
      Recently I read how some useless fossil is crying over the fact that Khrushchev, Brezhnev, etc. destroyed the Satalin USSR. Probably this creature lives under the influence of the Stalinist film "Volga-Volga". Life in the cinema was both "better and more fun." It was "It's all right, lovely marquise."
      Stalin's ideology, which prohibits everything and everything, destroying hundreds of thousands of human lives, has not yet been banned in Russia?
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 21 July 2020 14: 06 New
        0
        Quote: L-39NG
        Stalin's ideology, which prohibits everything and everything, destroying hundreds of thousands of human lives, has not yet been banned in Russia?

        yes, like a bourgeois ideology that destroyed hundreds of millions, also not spotted anywhere ... laughing
    3. KCA
      KCA 20 July 2020 08: 37 New
      0
      "Vityaz" was not made for the Republic of Kazakhstan, only a rocket was made by the order of the Koreans, and "Vityaz" is not a rocket, it is an air defense system
  • Voyager
    Voyager 19 July 2020 19: 00 New
    -2
    Quote: Bez 310
    In this we are "ahead of the whole planet."

    Ahead of the planet across America with its super-duper hypersonic missiles and dozens of other items that are not in service, but which are loudly talked about.
  • l5ddsl
    l5ddsl 19 July 2020 14: 37 New
    -6
    An interesting tale.
  • Max Lebedev
    Max Lebedev 19 July 2020 14: 48 New
    +9
    In the Baltics and Norway, they are already outraged by the military activity of the Russian Federation, and you have added oil to the fire laughing
    1. bar
      bar 19 July 2020 15: 11 New
      +3
      This is not to be indignant in vain. Now they will resent the case wassat
    2. maiman61
      maiman61 19 July 2020 17: 39 New
      -1
      Outraged? So we are doing the right thing!
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 19 July 2020 14: 50 New
    +1
    The fat eaters are furious)))
    How so? We bought Turkish))
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 July 2020 16: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      The fat eaters are furious)))
      How so? We bought Turkish))

      yes SIX (pcs), and ONE has already been "contracted" without the influence of the militia ...
  • 123456789
    123456789 19 July 2020 15: 01 New
    +6
    Quote: Courier
    Does the RF orbital group allow you to control the drone at such distances?

    Finding no wire in the Neanderthal caves, British scientists concluded that they were using wireless internet.
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 19 July 2020 15: 01 New
    +2
    That would be news about how Russian unmanned aerial vehicles flew near San Francisco, while only rq-4b near Crimea. Until there is such news, no empty la la is needed.
  • ved_med12
    ved_med12 19 July 2020 15: 43 New
    +1
    RADIUS three thousand !!! that's cool! you can shower me now! tomatoes and cons
    1. Aag
      Aag 19 July 2020 19: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: ved_med12
      RADIUS three thousand !!! that's cool! you can shower me now! tomatoes and cons

      You shouldn't pull out one line from the performance characteristics (LTX), unconfirmed, in isolation from the rest. Can it be controlled at such distances? Or just work out the algorithm introduced at the start?
      I would like everything, and more, but, given the previous statements of the responsible persons, media reports, it may turn out that 3000km is not RADIUS, but max, flight range.
      Minus for tomatoes, at current prices for the latter, weak compensation))). Sorry, from the garden).
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 21 July 2020 14: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: AAG
        Can it be controlled at such distances, or just work out the algorithm introduced at the start?

        recently, the military has begun to actively launch satellites. do you know their purpose? definitely not, like me wink what answer do you expect? if they lay such a range, then they can. we are not the USA where they first build the F-35 and after releasing several hundred they start to figure out what to do with it lol
        1. Aag
          Aag 21 July 2020 17: 21 New
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          "satellites began to be actively launched. Do you know their purpose? definitely not ..."
          Definitely, no. But some tasks are voiced in open sources, some tasks can be guessed. It is also known that the US satellite constellation is numerically superior to ours, at least. It is reported that some of them are anti-satellites.
          "if they lay such a range, then they can ..."
          Unfortunately, there are more cases when it means nothing, except for PR, marketing, etc.
          Here, at VO, the topic of anti-ship missiles was discussed more than once, for example. People close to their operation expressed concern about the use: the range allows, but there is nothing to aim with. So I asked myself ... winked
          "first they build the F-35 and after releasing several hundred they start to figure out what to do with it" ...
          Sorry, a stupid joke suggests itself: -and ours made one Su-57, thought, thought, what for is it a VKS, -and did not fly ... Yes, "we are not the USA" ... with a hundred of them. ...
          ... That the F-35, that the Su-57 are conceived as multifunctional platforms adaptive for various tasks, including promising ones that have not yet arisen, have not been formulated. Sounds wild for, say, TZ)), but, in my opinion this is what they are trying to portray ...
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 21 July 2020 18: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: AAG
            Sorry, a stupid joke suggests itself: -and ours made one Su-57, thought, thought, what for is it a VKS, -and did not fly ... Yes, "we are not the USA" ... with a hundred of them. ...

            it is he laughing
            hmmm .. but we have not yet released 57+ C-300s without a concept of application, but in the USA there are standards. from the moment he went into the series and now they come up with how to use it. this is not the only example. there is also LCS and Samvolt. also "a thing in itself" and have not yet figured out why ...
            the American military has one problem, the budget for projects is not approved by the military at all, but by congressmen lobbying the interests of corporations, so they will not fight what they want, but what they will be given yes hence the problem, having received what they gave to figure out how to fight this now ...
            Quote: AAG
            Here, at VO, the topic of anti-ship missiles was discussed more than once, for example. People close to their operation expressed concern about the use: the range allows, but there is nothing to aim with. So I asked myself ...

            I understand you, but I have not come across "those close to exploitation" here. yes, there were those who beat themselves with their heels in the chest that almost yesterday they shot, of course, and did not get anywhere, but in reality they turned out to be schoolchildren ... the technical level is below the plinth and all that wanted to say was "ahhhh! request
            Quote: AAG
            It is also known that the US satellite constellation is at least numerically superior to ours, and some of them are reported to be anti-satellites.

            Duc and with us. the United States is constantly outraged by the dangerous actions of Russian satellites-inspectors ...
            By the way, is it much more? the satellite network is not a statement. the grouping works for a while, after which it needs to be updated. now we have approximately parity in launches, but this means that the United States is not updating its old grouping and in what state it is not very clear request

            And the main question is, are they (drones) going to directly control them? what prevents you from setting a task program and sending it to a given square? the drone is made to solve combat missions, and not to entertain a soldier with a flight simulator wink
            1. Aag
              Aag 21 July 2020 18: 56 New
              0
              hi
              "what prevents to set the task program" ...
              Well I asked about this: "Or just work out the algorithm entered at startup?" But it is still possible (and is it possible?) To change the task after the start, in the area of ​​application, loitering in connection with the changed situation, etc.
              "The US is not updating its old grouping"
              I do not know what is being launched there .... 350 Starlink satellites have. Only in March I.Mask threw 60 .... The USA was not noticed in good intentions.
              On the rest of the points, I have no objections.))
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 21 July 2020 19: 40 New
                0
                Quote: AAG
                But it is still possible (and is it possible?) To change the task after the start, in the area of ​​application, loitering in connection with the changed situation, etc.

                and it somehow interferes with the version with the software? there are no contradictions between these concepts. now electronics allows realizing a rather wide and flexible range of reactions to the situation.
                Quote: AAG
                I do not know what is being launched there .... 350 Starlink satellites have. Only in March I.Mask threw 60 .... The USA was not noticed in good intentions.

                Duc this is a masquerade scam with a tyrnet lol through this channel, you will not be able to control the drone, but even then you can hardly write anything yes
                Let me remind you that there are 12000 satellites in the project and all this is a low-orbit constellation, that is, their service life is not great. the fact that Musk threw a bunch of investors on this project does not mean that the project will work. by the way, in Musk's portfolio there are already many "brilliant projects" that ended in a puff, and sometimes an environmental disaster ... wink
    2. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 11 New
      0
      And how to handle it at such a distance? There is no artificial intelligence, satellite control is vulnerable. Controlling according to a pre-laid down program - this makes a cruise missile easier, cheaper and more reliable.
  • garri-lin
    garri-lin 19 July 2020 15: 52 New
    0
    The Hunter makes an excellent platform for various missiles. Just wait for him in the army for a long time. And it's upsetting.
  • Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 19 July 2020 15: 57 New
    -3
    Why such a form and expensive? Isn't it easier than Turkey?
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 19 July 2020 16: 53 New
      -1
      It is not for the technical tasks for which the Turkish are intended. Not at all for those. Although the analogue of Turetsky in the troops should have been already based on the results of the Chechen companies. And at 08 08 08 I should have run in.
  • Force
    Force 19 July 2020 15: 58 New
    +1
    As for me, the S-70 at the moment is a technology demonstrator, and it is still very far from entering the troops.
    And I fully admit that in the end he will go to the army in the reconnaissance / electronic warfare version, they will refuse weapons on board.
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 19 July 2020 16: 27 New
      +4
      hi To sculpt such a large-tonnage for the sake of intelligence? Excuse me, it smells like a light drug addiction.
      1. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 08 New
        +1
        Underestimating the importance of intelligence is already hard drugs laughing
        1. SNEAKY
          SNEAKY 19 July 2020 21: 14 New
          +1
          I did not write that intelligence is childish pranks. laughing
          The scout will be too expensive, but there are much more optimal options that can hang over the enemy for almost days)
          1. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 19 July 2020 21: 16 New
            -1
            Was the SR-71 cheaper? And what can hang over a modern, well-armed enemy for days, please enlighten.
            1. SNEAKY
              SNEAKY 19 July 2020 21: 26 New
              0
              This is exactly what I'm trying to convey. Well, why don't the Americans continue to release scouts more expensive than gold? Nowadays it is cheaper to launch a "soap box", where the most expensive equipment is transmission of images in real time in high quality.
              I hardly argue that a hunter should be equipped with reconnaissance equipment with electronic warfare. But the comparison here is a well-known one about hammering a nail with a microscope.
          2. Force
            Force 20 July 2020 08: 23 New
            +1
            As a drummer, he also turns out to be "golden".
            Even Mattresses cannot afford to drive BaBachs through the deserts.
            If they break through the air defense zone, there is a high probability that they will be shot down.
            It is no coincidence that the Americans, with vast experience of operation and use, have abandoned the strike option, but are doing reconnaissance and tankers on the basis of a flying wing.
    2. Voyager
      Voyager 19 July 2020 19: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Vigore
      As for me, the S-70 at the moment is a technology demonstrator, and it is still very far from entering the troops.


      This is not only for you, this is what the Civil Code itself said, but we continue to stubbornly build hopes for an early appearance ...
  • Klingon
    Klingon 19 July 2020 16: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Tusv
    The Yankees, an analogue of the Hunter, were already planted on an aircraft carrier in 2010, but they have not found combat use for 10 years. We will teach the bourgeoisie

    Greetings, Vladimir! drinks
    I agree, but it is better to teach bourgeois not as an experienced unit, but as a full-fledged squadron of "Hunters". So it will be more understandable for the bourgeoisie and for us. yes

    and we will have a full-fledged squadron by 2035-40. by the time the Okhotnikov squadron was created, it would already be out of date. And you also need to create ammunition for him
  • Klingon
    Klingon 19 July 2020 16: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Why such a form and expensive? Isn't it easier than Turkey?

    of course easier! but we do not have truth like everyone else? we must make our way through thorns to the stars, which are very far away and it is unclear how to reach them and in what form wassat
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 July 2020 17: 01 New
      -3
      This is far and unclear to you. Development is carried out on the basis of specific TTZ. And what drones are abroad, believe me, you know not only. Some of our UAVs were created in the likeness of foreign ones, and over the past few years we have noticeably reduced the backlog on this issue.
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 19 July 2020 17: 04 New
        +2
        Yeah, that "own development" - copied from the Israelis. Tupolev in the USSR had his own UAV designs - "Strizh", "Reis"
      2. Aag
        Aag 19 July 2020 19: 19 New
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        This is far and unclear to you. Development is carried out on the basis of specific TTZ. And what drones are abroad, believe me, you know not only. Some of our UAVs were created in the likeness of foreign ones, and over the past few years we have noticeably reduced the backlog on this issue.

        Especially when you consider that we didn’t have anything even close! (We do not take into account proactive developments, ideas, because they were not supported anywhere). Don't ask for links, I won't find ...
        Regarding the TTZ, I agree with you, in the sense that the correct understanding of the goal determines (ideally) the setting of the task.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 19 July 2020 16: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: da Vinci
    That would be news about how Russian unmanned aerial vehicles flew near San Francisco, while only rq-4b near Crimea. Until there is such news, no empty la la is needed.

    how will they fly near San Francisco if we don't have them at all? how can something fly which is not? wassat
    1. da Vinci
      da Vinci 19 July 2020 16: 47 New
      +1
      Why not, these are the blue lines on the maps! Just about a little bit, and along these lines, flying along the lines of unavailable analogs in the world !!!!! (This means that it is necessary not in word, but in deed!).
      Yes, by the way, no one will ever fly along these lines (they simply will not allow it).
      Set real goals:
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 19 July 2020 17: 34 New
    +2
    Somehow supersonic high-speed Su-57 will be inconvenient to graze the subsonic Hunter?
    He will not fly in circles around him.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 19 July 2020 17: 40 New
      -1
      So the current slave UAVs are planned before sound. XQ-58 and Loyal Wingman. But with the fact that for a winged flying wing scheme does not fit, I agree, there are many other minuses. By the way, in Israel you can’t hear about UAV-driven UAVs?
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 July 2020 18: 51 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Somehow supersonic high-speed Su-57 will be inconvenient to graze the subsonic Hunter?
      He will not fly in circles around him.

      The fact that the Su-57 is supersonic does not mean that it cannot fly at subsonic speed)
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 July 2020 10: 47 New
        0
        It depends on which subsonic. It’s hard for a speed fighter
        fly constantly at 0.5 MAX. He will have to keep the chassis released periodically
        brake flaps, and fuel consumption will be large.
        For example, slow reconnaissance aircraft cannot accompany the F-16.
        (all the more, hide behind them smile ) They are too fast on subsonic for this.
        Therefore, the pair - master and slave drone must be selected correctly.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 20 July 2020 11: 51 New
          -1
          Modern fighters have a cruising speed of 900 km / h. UAVs are calculated on this. C70 can hold this speed.
        2. 3danimal
          3danimal 20 July 2020 14: 33 New
          0
          I disagree. After all, you can set the throttle to "low" and fly 400-500 km per hour. F-16 and other 4th generation fighters at full thrust (but without afterburner) have a speed of 900-1000 km per hour.
          Experience, however, only in "DCS" and "Lock On", but still smile
  • maiman61
    maiman61 19 July 2020 17: 37 New
    -1
    And if you consider that this is a drone and the return will be compensated by the importance of the destroyed target, then where can he get it?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 July 2020 18: 54 New
      -1
      Multiply the radius by 2.
      1. Aag
        Aag 19 July 2020 19: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        Multiply the radius by 2.

        I already wrote. It seems that this (3000 km) is the range, not the radius. I would like to be wrong ...
        But a lot of questions remain
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 19 July 2020 19: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: AAG
          Quote: 1976AG
          Multiply the radius by 2.

          I already wrote. It seems that this (3000 km) is the range, not the radius. I would like to be wrong ...
          But a lot of questions remain

          Everything is possible. But we will soon probably find out. Moreover, they plan to install another engine on them, and then it’s just not clear to which version this radius can be attributed, either to the current or to the promising one.
          1. Aag
            Aag 19 July 2020 20: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: 1976AG
            Quote: AAG
            Quote: 1976AG
            Multiply the radius by 2.

            I already wrote. It seems that this (3000 km) is the range, not the radius. I would like to be wrong ...
            But a lot of questions remain

            Everything is possible. But we will soon probably find out. Moreover, they plan to install another engine on them, and then it’s just not clear to which version this radius can be attributed, either to the current or to the promising one.

            You have already partially answered the question - "breakthrough" or failure? A UAV with such, similar, and other characteristics WAS needed for a long time. I hope we will either recreate it or compensate it with something else. I would like it not to be a "human resource", as has happened more than once ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 19 July 2020 20: 57 New
    0
    Without commercial quantities, personnel, operators, proven algorithms and application tactics, without bios, while the balls are rippled.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 20 July 2020 00: 30 New
    0
    Neutral opinion: I google it from the phone - here is @@@@ why illustrate the material with "photo-cartoons? !!!", which introduce all members of the forum into discoordination!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 20 July 2020 01: 13 New
      0
      And what is there with photos and cartoons illustrated?
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 20 July 2020 01: 35 New
        0
        And what is there with photos and cartoons illustrated?
        Reply
        ©
        No, but the photoshop illustration is fake.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 20 July 2020 01: 28 New
    0
    We seem to have only one Hunter. And he is on the test.
    And dreams, dreams have gone ...
    Remember the story of SU 57? and where are those dreams?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 20 July 2020 02: 18 New
      -1
      At least there is a contract on the Su-57, but with the "Hunter" it is still completely dull ....
  • iouris
    iouris 20 July 2020 11: 54 New
    0
    I don’t understand anything. And what does the Su-57?
  • Russian2020
    Russian2020 20 July 2020 17: 08 New
    0
    Tabor goes to the sky