Mage and Warlock Herbert Aurillac

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Mage and Warlock Herbert Aurillac

The Latin inscription under the medieval miniature reads: "Pray and Work"

Probably all of you have read M. Bulgakov's novel The Master and Margarita and remember the fateful meeting of Berlioz and Homeless with the “foreign professor” at Patriarch's Ponds. And, perhaps, they paid attention to how Woland explains his appearance in Moscow.

- What is your specialty? Berlioz inquired.
- I am a specialist in black magic ... Here in the state library were found the original manuscripts of the warlock Herbert Avrilak, tenth century. So, it is required that I disassemble them. I am the only specialist in the world.
- Ah! Are you a historian? Berlioz asked with great relief and respect.





Meeting at the Patriarchs, illustration by A. Nabokov

Where did the manuscripts of some medieval magician suddenly appear in Lenin? And why the very educated and erudite Berlioz, who had already taken the "professor" for a madman, upon hearing the name of Herbert Avrilak, immediately calmed down and believed in the stranger's version?

I must say that in this novel by Bulgakov there are quite a few references to other works or to real historical events - what is now often called "Easter eggs". For example, I really like the hidden quote from the work of Michael Psellus about "the darkness that came from the sea."

M. Bulgakov:

"The darkness that came from the Mediterranean covered the city hated by the procurator."

M. Psell:

"A cloud that suddenly rose from the sea covered the royal city with darkness."

(The Byzantine historian uses this phrase in the story of a terrible storm that destroyed the Russian-Varangian fleet of Vladimir Novgorodsky, the son of Yaroslav the Wise, and Ingvar the Traveler, the cousin of Yaroslav's wife Ingigerd).

The mysterious warlock Herbert Avrilak, who died 15 years before the birth of Mikhail Psellus, of course, also appeared in Bulgakov's novel for a reason.

Getting to know the hero



Herbert is the real name of this man, who was born in the French city of Aurillac (formerly the name was pronounced as Avralak) around 946, so everything is correct here. Since for a long time he lived and worked in Reims, first as a scholastic (teacher) of the school of the monastery of St. Remigius, and then - in fact, he performed the duties of an archbishop, although he was not recognized as such by the Vatican, he is sometimes also called Reims. But at present, he is much better known as Pope Sylvester II (139th in a row).


Silvester II, portrait of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries

This pontiff was a contemporary of Vladimir Svyatoslavich, the Polish king Boleslav the Brave (whose daughter the “cursed” Svyatopolk was married to) and the Hungarian king Stephen I (this pope blessed him to the throne). He also gave permission for the organization of the first Polish archiepiscopal diocese. And yet, it means that he managed to engage in magic and black magic, although this hobby seems very strange for a person who has become the highest hierarch of the Catholic Church.

However, the papal throne was also occupied by not such characters. Sylvester II, even in a nightmare, probably could not have dreamed of the “exploits” of John XII, who at feasts (more like orgies) repeatedly raised bowls to the health of the devil and pagan gods. And contemporaries did not call him a pharmacist of Satan, like Alexander VI (Borgia). No, Herbert Avrilaksky was a very peaceful, intelligent and quiet warlock and a quite decent and relatively harmless pope. He did not kill his predecessors, like Sergius III, did not dig up their corpses and did not judge posthumously, like Stephen VI. And even in such a solid business with a long tradition as the sale of church positions, he disdained to engage in. And such a cute entertainment of many popes and cardinals as concubinage (in Roman law - cohabitation without marriage), also did not favor. Well, except that he intrigued for his own pleasure. Acting as scientific secretary of the Bishop of Reims Adalberon during the congress of spiritual and secular lords of France, he participated in the election of the Duke of Ile-de-France, Hugh Capet, as king - this is how the Capetian dynasty was founded, which ruled from 987 to 1328.

Taking offense at Pope John XV, who refused to approve him as Archbishop of Reims, he spoke about the Vatican in such a way that his letters were then gladly quoted by Protestants - in 1567 and 1600. But who of the politicians of this scale (both modern and past years) is not unprincipled and intriguing?

So, Sylvester II was a rather active pope, and managed a lot in 4 years of his pontificate. But, here's the trouble, he, it turns out, was very fond of magic and black magic. So much so that it's all they remember now. Let's try to figure out where the venerable pontiff suddenly got such a dubious reputation and whether his contemporaries had reason to accuse him of practicing magic, cohabiting with a succubus and having connections with the devil himself.

The beginning of a spiritual career


Herbert was born in 946 into a poor and humble family. In 963th-century Europe, the only chance for someone like him to make any headway was a clergyman's career, and so in 967 the young man entered the Benedictine monastery of Saint Herold. Here he immediately attracted the attention of his abilities and inclination to the exact sciences. And then Herbert was lucky for the first time. The abbot of this monastery, who turned out to be a caring and progressive person, in XNUMX recommended the young man as a secretary to Count Borrell II of Barcelona who happened to be in those places. So Herbert came to Spain.

However, such a country as Spain did not yet exist at that time. Almost the entire Iberian Peninsula was occupied by the Cordoba Caliphate, only in the north there were small Christian kingdoms, and the Reconquista was still far away.


The powerful Cordoba Caliphate had a great influence on the neighboring Christian states, including in the field of education and culture. In the libraries of Arab cities, the works of ancient authors have been preserved, many of which will be rediscovered by Europeans only in the Renaissance. It is claimed that the library of Cordoba contained up to half a million books, while the best European libraries boasted only a thousand.

Either way, Herbert was very lucky. But it was to this period that the first "warlock" legend "refers to his connection with a succubus named Meridiana, from which he received" inhuman "knowledge, and then - wealth and power.


Succubus. XNUMXth century wooden sculpture, Cambridge

In the name of this succubus, a geometric term is clearly heard - indeed, someone heard the ringing, but did not understand where it came from. By the way, some of Herbert's illiterate interlocutors also considered the octahedron and rhombus to be the names of demons.

It is often difficult for people in general to believe that a person can achieve success without a noble birth, wealth, or influential patrons: it is easier to explain other people's achievements by witchcraft or even a deal with the devil.

But Herbert did not cohabit with the beautiful Meridiana, but studied in Catalonia - in Vic. And then he managed to visit Cordoba. He may have also visited Seville and Toledo. And this study with the Moors was the reason for the appearance of the second legend - that Herbert stole a book of spells from the palace of Caliph al-Hakkam II himself: he discovered in it a formula that makes a person invisible, read it with the necessary intonations - and, as they say, was like that.

There is another version of this legend, according to which the daughter of his magician teacher, who was in love with him, helped Herbert to steal the book.

Fateful visit to Rome


In 969, Herbert ended up in Rome with the Barcelona Count Borrell. Here he met Pope John XIII. The scholarly young man made such a good impression on the Pope that he recommended him as the educator of his son to Emperor Otto I himself.


Lucas Cranach the Elder. Otto I the Great, portrait in the Chronicle of the Saxons and the Thuringians

In this position, Herbert was for three years, after which in 972 he went to Reims, where he taught at the monastery school, built a hydraulic organ and fought for the place of archbishop.

The future emperor Otto II also liked the teacher very much, which is not surprising, because Herbert was a supporter of asserting the priority of imperial power over spiritual. Having come to power in 973, Otto II remembered the teacher, appointing him abbot of the monastery in Babbio. But Herbert found it boring there, and he preferred to return to Reims. Then he supported the former student in the war against his compatriot - the French king Lothair (in 978).

Otto II, by the way, headed the jury of judges during the famous debate "on the classification of sciences" in Ravenna, in which his former teacher converged with the German dialectician Otrich. This dispute lasted a day and ended in a draw due to the complete exhaustion of the jury members, who, by their willful decision, stopped this dispute and literally crawled out of the hall.


Otto II with the personification of the subject lands. Miniature, circa 985 Chantilly, Kendé Museum

Otto II died in 983 at the age of 28, presumably from malaria. The heir to the throne, the son of the Byzantine princess Theophano, was only three years old at that time and his name was also Otto (only the Third: I'm already tired of writing this name - people have no imagination). This emperor, who was nicknamed the Miracle of the World by court flatterers, also developed an excellent relationship with Herbert.


Romans, Gauls (Lorraine), Germans and Slavs (Poles who converted to Christianity) bring gifts to Emperor Otto III, miniature, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, Munich

In Reims, as we remember, our hero failed to become an archbishop, but thanks to the efforts of Otto III, he was appointed archbishop of Ravenna. This was not too difficult to achieve: Pope Gregory V was the emperor's first cousin.

A year later, this pontiff died, and Herbert was elected the new head of the Catholic Church. He became the first Frenchman to occupy the throne of Saint Peter.


Statue of Pope Sylvester II in the French prefecture of Aurillac


Portrait of Pope Sylvester II on a French stamp

Interestingly, the name chosen by Herbert upon accession to the throne: Sylvester. He took it in honor of the pope, who was an adviser to Constantine the Great. The hint was quite transparent, and the interested persons understood it perfectly.


Meister der Reichenauer Schule. Emperor Otto III and Pope Sylvester II, Munich, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek


Pope Sylvester II

In the future, Otto III and Sylvester II acted as allies. In 1001, they had to flee together from rebellious Rome. Meanwhile, the days of both were already running out. The young emperor died in 1002 (he was 22 at the time) during a campaign against Rome, Pope Sylvester II briefly outlived him, dying in 1003. But he nevertheless returned to the Eternal City and was buried in the Lateran Cathedral (St. John Lateran).


Cathedral of Saint John Lateran

The inscription on his gravestone reads: "Here lie the mortal remains of Sylvester, who will rise at the sound of the coming of the Lord."


Pope Sylvester II cenotaph

Later, a legend appeared that periodically a noise was heard from this tomb, warning of the imminent death of the Pope.

Mage and warlock


So, the rootless and poor Herbert of Aurillac was acquainted with three emperors of the Holy Roman Empire, with the support of the last of them became an archbishop, and then was elected pope - and, according to some, all this happened not without the help of the Devil. And the successes in the sciences (rather exaggerated and colored by rumors) increased suspicions. So far, these were just rumors circulating among the illiterate and superstitious commoners. But soon even the hierarchs of the Catholic Church started talking about it. And this is not surprising, because Pope Sylvester II, as we remember, was opposed to the sale of church posts and even considered imperial power higher than spiritual, and therefore he had many opponents and ill-wishers in the highest church circles.

Cardinal Bennon was the first to officially blame the deal with Satan for the already deceased (in 1003) Pope Sylvester II. This accusation fell on fertile ground, and in the future the stories about the miracles performed by the warlock on the papal throne only multiplied and acquired the most bizarre forms.


Silvester II and the devil

The enemies of Sylvester II even spread rumors that Simon Magus was his ancestor - the same one who wanted to buy from the apostles Philip, John and Peter "power over the Holy Spirit" and the ability to work miracles in his name. And who died in Rome, falling from a tower, during a competition with the apostles Peter and Paul - because Peter took power from the demons holding the magician (Nero acted as an arbitrator in this magical duel, by whose order these apostles were later executed).


Saints Peter and Paul before Nero during a dispute with Simon the Magus, mosaic. Palatine Chapel, Palermo, Sicily

On behalf of this character of the New Testament "Acts of the Apostles", as well as the apocryphal "Acts of Peter" and "Syntagma" the term "simony" originates, but Pope Sylvester, as we remember, was a principled opponent of the trade in church offices and miraculous relics.

It was also said that the black dog that accompanied Herbert everywhere was the devil himself, with whom he made an agreement. This legend undoubtedly influenced the later legends about Faust and Goethe's Mephistopheles appears to Faust in the guise of a black poodle.

However, there is a version of the legend in which Herbert did not conclude an agreement with the devil, but won the papal tiara in bone from him. In this case, he already acts as a character who has shamed the enemy of the human race and forced him to serve himself. Of course, even such connections with the devil were not encouraged by the official church, but among the people such a victory over an unclean spirit was perceived unambiguously positively. Let us recall the numerous legends about how the builders of cathedrals (for example, Cologne) and bridges (Rakotzbrücke in Saxony or the "Devil's" in Switzerland, connected with the name of Suvorov) managed to deceive Satan.


Rakotzbrücke Bridge, Kromlau park, Saksoniia

By the way, our hero was not the only Roman pontiff who had his own demon: Pope Boniface VIII also had a devil in his service. We know about this from the words of the French king Philip the Fair, who made an official statement at the Louvre meeting in 1303.

But what miracles did the warlock Herbert of Aurillac, who became pope, work?

Let's start with a simple one: everyone was simply amazed by his ability to perform mathematical calculations in the "mind" - it is simply impossible to do this using the then common Roman numerals. However, Herbert used Arabic numerals (in fact, the Arabs themselves borrowed them from the Indians, so it would be more correct to call them Indian). Herbert did not keep a new way of counting, multiplication and division using Arabic numerals in Europe: he taught it while working at the school of the monastery of St. Remigius in Reims and later tried to popularize it in every possible way. But how many students did he have then? A lot of time passed until the new way of calculating became commonplace and familiar. Europe finally abandoned Roman numerals only in the Renaissance.

Another magical specialty of Herbert was advising on territorial disputes: in this regard, the ability to calculate the areas of geometric figures was very valuable.

The never-before-seen hydraulic organ built by Herbert in Reims also aroused great surprise among contemporaries. He was also credited with the creation of the world's first mechanical tower clock, which he allegedly presented to Magdeburg. This clock seemed to "mark all the movements of the light, and the time when the stars rise and set." However, serious researchers have little faith in these watches: Herbert must have been way ahead of his time when creating them. Only in the 1335th century did tower clocks without a dial appear, which announced the beginning of a new hour by striking a bell. And the first reliably known mechanical tower clock with arrows was created only in XNUMX - in Milan. And historians do not at all believe in the legend that in the XNUMXth century the Dutchman Bomelius brought with him to Moscow a clock made by Herbert Aurillac.

Elisha Bomelia's watch


Elyseus Bomelius was the son of a Dutch priest but was born in Westphalia (in 1530). Taking care of the sick son of a noble English family, Bertie, he later ended up in England with her. He studied medicine at the University of Cambridge but did not graduate. For providing medical care without a diploma and license, as well as on charges of practicing black magic, he was later arrested. However, by that time, Bomelius already had some connections in high society, and he managed to get out. And then the Russian embassy in London turned out to be, and its head Andrei Lapin, who was instructed to find a good doctor for Ivan the Terrible, could not pass by such a valuable shot - he looked good. Bomelius, too, could not stay in London, so they agreed pretty quickly. In Moscow, Elisha Bomelius (as they began to call him here) gained great influence. The Dutchman managed to get the king addicted to astrology, and together they often watched the starry sky at night. There were rumors that the royal doctor and astrologer had another specialty: allegedly, on the orders of Ivan the Terrible, he made poisons that killed a person not immediately, but after a certain time: liquids and powders for adding to drink or food and candles with a poisoned wick. And therefore, in Moscow, Bomelius received the nicknames "fierce sorcerer" and "evil heretic." However, it should be noted that Ivan the Terrible had no reason to hide his anger and disgrace, and secret murders of enemies were not characteristic of him. On the contrary, in his reprisals and executions, he strove for publicity and theatricality, sometimes bordering on blasphemy. Therefore, it is unlikely that he needed the services of a qualified poisoner. He valued the Dutchman precisely as a doctor and soothsayer. Even the enemies did not deny the medicinal talents of Bomelius, and some stories that have come down to our time depict the Dutchman, although "nasty", but almost a miracle worker. And even in Rimsky-Korsakov's opera The Tsar's Bride there is an episode where the people are indignant at the sight of two young people leaving the house of Bomelius:

“Did you go to the German for medicines? .. He's a filthy man! After all, he is infidel! .. Before you begin to rub shoulders with him, the cross must be removed. After all, he is a sorcerer! "

As for the influence on the tsar, some researchers believe that it was on the advice of Bomelius that Ivan IV temporarily transferred the throne to the baptized Chingizid Simeon Bekbulatovich - in order to avoid the troubles and misfortunes that the stars promised the Grand Duke of Moscow that year.

But Bomelius forgot about an important rule of any seer: his predictions must be pleasing to clients. And it is necessary to predict especially carefully those who have the opportunity to “pay for the services” of the prophet not only with silver or gold, but also with a noose and a dungeon: if you predict some kind of trouble for them, then be sure to immediately give a recipe for deliverance (as in the case of “renunciation of from the throne" in favor of Simeon Bekublatovich). Bomelius, as they say, in 1579, undertaking to predict the royal fate with the help of a crystal ball, got carried away and laid out a clean (as it turned out later), but very terrible truth: he told the monarch about the impending death of the second wife of the heir during childbirth, the death of three sons and the end of the dynasty.

Ivan thanked Bomelius with a blow of a heavy goblet on the head, from which he was unconscious for several days. Recovering his senses, the seer decided that he had spent too much time in Moscow, and in English, without saying goodbye to the hospitable tsar, he went to Pskov. However, Ivan the Terrible did not like foreign customs, and he considered people who left Moscow without his permission to be thieves and traitors. He sent a chase after Bomelius, which intercepted the fugitive. In the capital he recklessly abandoned, Bomelius was roasted alive on a spit, having cursed the king before his death. This curse was remembered when Ivan IV died suddenly, without even having time, according to custom, to be tonsured as a monk.

But back to Elisey Bomeliy's watch: they claim that somehow it later fell into the hands of Ivan Kulibin (he turned out to be the eighth owner of this watch) and burned down along with his house in 1814.

What can you say about this story? The first individual watches, as you know, were created in the XNUMXth century, and therefore Bomelius could really bring such a curiosity with him. However, this watch clearly had nothing to do with Herbert Aurillac. But this legend proves the wide popularity of this warlock in Russia.

Continuation of the story of Herbert of Aurillac


Other magical deeds of Herbert were the reconstruction of the abacus (the prototype of the accounts) and the astrolabe, which he also improved, according to the drawings found in the Arab books.


Abacus


Astrolabe, XNUMXth century

The astrolabe, by the way, began to be used by European sailors only a century later (although they did not forget about it a second time, and that's good). Also, our hero was the first in Christian Europe to construct Sphaera armillaris - an armillary celestial sphere, where the celestial equator, tropics, ecliptic and poles were designated.


Antonio Santucci. Armillary Sphere, 1588-1593. Galileo Museum, Florence

It is believed that it was Herbert, who became pope, who provoked in Italy the fashion for astrology, which quickly spread throughout Europe. But his personal attempts to predict the future were more than unsuccessful.

The fiasco was the louder and more abundant that he decided to predict the end of the world. And he named it the exact date: January 1, 1000. But at that time he was not a scholastic and not an abbot, but the pope, to whose words the whole Catholic world listened. A panic began that engulfed all of Europe: some, leaving work and caring for their families, fasted and prayed, while others, on the contrary, decided to take a walk for the last time. And the affairs of so many families fell into decay. When the end of the world did not come, the authority of Sylvester II was greatly undermined. This is considered by many to be one of the main reasons for the above-mentioned rebellion in Rome, due to which Emperor Otto III and Pope Sylvester II had to flee to Ravenna in 1001.

The death of this pope is, of course, also told a mystical story. Sylvester II allegedly made an automaton in the form of a copper head (teraphim), capable of giving unambiguous answers to the questions posed. Perhaps it was a kind of prototype of a slot machine that gave answers "yes" - "no" in a random order (nodding or shaking his head).


Pope Sylvester II and his mechanical computer

According to another version, the teraphim were presented to him by members of a secret society founded by the Indian king Ashoka, called the Nine Unknowns. The first version, in my opinion, is easier to believe. This machine allegedly advised Sylvester not to go on his planned pilgrimage to Jerusalem. And when Sylvester died shortly after the service in the Roman church of St. Mary of Jerusalem, the inhabitants of the city, remembering his refusal to go to the Holy Land, immediately began to say that, according to an agreement with the devil, the unclean man had to take the soul of the pope when he set foot on earth Jerusalem. According to the same legend, Sylvester II bequeathed to cut his body into pieces and bury it in different places so that the Devil would not find him. However, as we remember, this pope was buried in the Lateran Cathedral.

The most offensive thing is that even in our time, these stupid medieval rumors and gossip affect the perception of the image of this handsome and extraordinary person. And in the British TV series "The Discovery of Witches" (2018), Herbert of Aurillac unexpectedly turns out to be not even a warlock, but a vampire.


Trevor Eve in A Discovery of Witches

Well, as for Woland's visit to Moscow, if he nevertheless found time to get acquainted with the manuscripts of Herbert of Aurillac, most likely, he found in them not magic formulas, but works on geometry or astronomy. Something like this:


And, probably, Bulgakov's devil was very disappointed with his discovery.
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  1. +5
    20 July 2020 07: 09
    Who just was not among the popes.

    Passion for mathematics is good.
    But how else to perceive astrological research, and predictions of the end of the world?
    This is a little more serious than "prank and just a prank".
  2. +14
    20 July 2020 07: 13
    Looking at how people suffered, studying coordinate systems according to Neupokoev's textbook, you understand why for knowledge of mathematics one could be known as a warlock and go to the stake))
    1. -1
      21 July 2020 16: 39
      Quote: Mytholog
      Looking at how people suffered, studying coordinate systems according to Neupokoev's textbook, you understand why for knowledge of mathematics one could be known as a warlock and go to the stake))

      Try to count in your head using Roman numerals
      1. 0
        21 July 2020 16: 45
        Quote: Vol4ara

        Try to count in your head using Roman numerals

        What a retrograde you are, my friend. If you crave mathematical masochism - multiply in hexadecimal system. More and more benefit will be than "rape the corpse" of Roman numerals)
  3. +11
    20 July 2020 08: 57
    It's interesting anyway. In Christianity, demons were also studied. By the way, a succubus, like an incubus, is rather asexual creatures, but a succubus is more likely in the form of a woman. Succubus proper: lie under. Incubus: lie on. There were educational institutions at the monasteries, quite a lot of scientists of that time graduated from them. About the end of the world, in the thousandth year. People are deeply religious, and the Pope says get ready. So not so long ago, some people found the Mayan calendar, people seem to be already educated. Yes, what happened to us. This Prokopenko, every day broadcast about the end of the world. Because the calendar is broken. Yes, just a stonemason, glued the fins together, and so the calendar ended. So I would have hollowed out a stone for another thousand years.
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      20 July 2020 15: 57
      There was a lot of noise with the end of the world. If it were not for Prokopenko, it’s nothing, but he was playing with such a serious air that they involuntarily believed. If we turned, and then ..... I wonder how he explained that there was no end of the world?
  4. +4
    20 July 2020 09: 50
    Ivan the Terrible had no reason to hide his anger and disgrace, and secret killings of his enemies were not typical for him. On the contrary, in his reprisals and executions he strove for publicity and theatricality, sometimes bordering on blasphemy.

    Can an example of public and theatrical execution, and even bordering on blasphemy? In the sense that Ivan IV did such terrible things that his contemporaries did not do in Europe?
    1. VLR
      +14
      20 July 2020 10: 16
      Nothing particularly outstanding against the background of contemporaries. The point is different: Ivan the Terrible had no reason to kill in secret. And therefore, Elisha Bomelius was not the sender, his courtiers slandered him.
      Well, and with blasphemy and theatricality - there were jokes from the Terrible Tsar: in 1570, for example, he "helped go to heaven" to the former streltsy head Golokhvast, who had gone to the monastery, by putting him on a barrel of gunpowder and blowing it up.
      1. +8
        20 July 2020 12: 31
        "helped to go to heaven" to the former streltsy head Golokhvast, who had gone to the monastery, having put him on a barrel of gunpowder and blown it up.

        Remember the famous movie phrase: "I put him on a barrel of gunpowder - let him fly!"? It is interesting that, according to the literary story "The Wings of a Serf", the king ordered the execution of a servant who invented a certain "hang glider" or "ornithopter", with which he made a small flight. Professor Katorin and colleagues in the book "Unique and Paradoxical Military Equipment" considered this case to be quite historical. But, apparently, making their discoveries in the era of "pre-Internet", they could be wrong. hi
        A legend has been preserved from the era of Ivan the Terrible that in 1565, during the tsar’s stay in the Alexander Sloboda, the boyar serf Nikita Kryakutny announced publicly that he would fly into the sky like a bird. He made wooden wings from wood, to which he attached bird wings with wax feathers. On the appointed day, he jumped down from the Crucifixion bell tower and even seemed to fly over a high wall, landing on the banks of the Sera River.
        Picture of Deinega:

        The people rejoiced, but the formidable king suspected evil and ordered: “A man is not a bird, do not have wings. If someone puts wooden wings on himself, he creates against nature, for this commonwealth with evil spirits, cut off the head of the inventor, the body of the accursed, the stinking dog, throw it to the pigs to eat, and burn the fiction after the sacred liturgy with fire. ("Golden Gate". M., 1985). The story, apparently, if it actually took place, has come down to us in a highly embellished form.
        In 1926, a film about this was made in the USSR:

        Here are the legends about the first Russian balloonists:
        https://sergeytsvetkov.livejournal.com/101616.html
        1. +8
          23 July 2020 01: 51
          during the stay of the king in Alexander Sloboda

          Do you want a poppy seed? He finally can be our fellow countryman with Uncle Kostya, if ... laughing
          Everything would be for you, Muscovites and St. Petersburg residents, to seize the common property. Did you just think that the only airborne school in the world was organized in Ryazan? While you and Anton were matting girls in the harem, Kryakutnaya, by the way, also invented the first erostat in 1731. It did not work out for Ivan the Terrible to catch him - he still flew for almost 200 years. And then he also organized the guest worker movement. Here! laughing drinks
          1. +1
            23 July 2020 10: 21
            Ivan the Terrible did not manage to catch him - he flew for almost 200 years.

            Lesh, class! I bow! good He laughed heartily! drinks
            1. +7
              23 July 2020 13: 24
              Oh... brother! We, slanty-bellied, can’t even stir up such a thing. In general, Ryazan is the cradle of mankind and the capital of progress. Are you familiar with Baron Munchausen? What did he fly? Right! Kryakutnoy realized that he would not have enough gases to conquer space on a balloon. I remembered that embarrassment with Ivan the Terrible and ... voila. "Let's go!" (C) And why did the hero from your avatar live on the roof? ... Yes, because he was a guest worker! Copenhagen is a windy city - you can fly to the wrong place on a erostat. But nothing will stop the real Hero-Kryakutny! Hop-bang - get a helicopter and sign! Checkmate! laughing drinks
              1. +1
                23 July 2020 13: 31
                Are you familiar with Baron Munchausen?

                it is interesting that during the war, in 1943, a film about the baron was shot in Nazi Germany, where he is quite himself ... fighting for the Russians in the 18th century, as, in principle, it was! request

                Copenhagen is a windy city - you can fly the wrong way on an erostat.

                yes, here he is from Copenhagen and flew to Stockholm by accident on erostrat, and there he attached a motor to himself. wink drinks
                1. +6
                  23 July 2020 13: 54
                  yes, here he is from Copenhagen and flew to Stockholm by accident on erostrat, and there he attached a motor to himself.

                  Quite a plausible version. good

                  fighting for the Russians in the 18th century, as, in principle, it was!

                  Duc, everything is understandable - a patriot! And for what purpose did Count Cagliostro drive from sunny Italy to the country of "white flies"? Ha, this is it. Kryakutnaya. True, in order not to get fired, he did not mention that he was in Ryazan. crying

                  "Doctor, where did you get these pictures from?" (WITH)
                  Why beat around the bush - when will you return to your small homeland? winked drinks
                2. +8
                  23 July 2020 16: 28
                  In general, I have already settled with Uncle Kostya and agreed on the decision to "accept" you and "marinate" for a long time ... wink drinks
      2. +4
        20 July 2020 13: 26
        More humane than quartering))
        1. +8
          20 July 2020 13: 31
          More humane than quartering))

          depending on .. mmm ... which side to quarter to start. what Pugachev was first demolished. Mary Stuart, EMNIP, was chopped off just the third time. And the Good Doctor Guillotin equalized everyone in terms of metrology and mass! request
          1. +5
            20 July 2020 13: 33
            So with Pugachev it was a “mockery of a corpse”, not a quartering drinks laughing
            1. +5
              20 July 2020 13: 53
              So with Pugachev it was a “mockery of a corpse”, not a quartering

              Was there such an article then? I remember that under another article - "for great blasphemy against the royal house" - they burned Archpriest Avvakum with a company. hi
              1. +7
                20 July 2020 14: 08
                This is not an article - this is a fact)).
                And about the blasphemy burning, this is a clear explanation to the population of the need for prevention of fire safety, coupled with the promotion of a tolerant attitude to the Royal House fellow
                Zar life matter
                1. +7
                  20 July 2020 14: 25
                  And about the blasphemy burning, this is a clear explanation to the population of the need for prevention of fire safety, coupled with the promotion of a tolerant attitude to the Royal House

                  for the word "tolerance" (if it was then) in those days, too, it was possible to thunder at the stake. request Like these Templars, who, in particular, were also accused of the sin of Sodom.

                  Hugh Dispenser Jr., the minion of the unlucky Edward II, finished no better. Illustration from Froissart.
                  1. +7
                    20 July 2020 14: 34
                    Tolerance is not necessarily about sexual minorities. Moreover, almost the entire hierarchical pyramid of the Catholic clergy was then indulged in Sodom's sin. laughing
                    1. +7
                      20 July 2020 14: 37
                      then almost the entire hierarchical pyramid of the Catholic clergy indulged in Sodom's sin

                      ... yeah, what were they just not indulging in, if Martin Luther King openly denounced syphilitic ulcers on his church opponents! belay People are weak... request
                      1. +5
                        20 July 2020 14: 47
                        Martin Luther King has a dream, and Martin Luther the founder of Protestantism - who and what he did not denounce - Jewish youth generally wanted to give out rakes and hoes without a motor negative drinks
                      2. +5
                        20 July 2020 15: 29
                        Jewish youth generally wanted to give out rakes and hoes without a motor

                        what disgusting! But the sailor William Adams, who served as the prototype for the captain in the "Shogun", quite provocatively trolled the Catholic monks who tried to bring the light of faith to the Japanese. hi He argued with one, following the example of Yan Vyshatich, saying, "What are you going to do in the evening?" wink The one, the dunduk in the cassock, take it, and bryaknay - "I will walk on the water!" fellow Well, Adams defiantly and gathered the local samurai, Haiming and geishas who joined them - to look at a miracle. Yes ... The miracle did not happen, how much the monk did not puff up ... request And the disbelieved children of the Land of the Rising Sun dispersed gloomily to their homes! bully
                      3. +7
                        20 July 2020 15: 34
                        laughing good
                        As in that joke - a rabbi, a priest and a Buddhist monk argued who can walk on the water - a Jew and a Buddhist walk like on dry land, and the priest walks in the water. Moving away from him, the rebbe says to the monk:
                        - This poet did not notice the bumps
                        - What kind of bumps?
                      4. +7
                        20 July 2020 20: 49
                        Where is the mullah ??? Oh, these tolerant Jews for me !!! laughing
                        This is a treshevy version of the ending of the anecdote, only Christians are present.
                        "Teacher, Peter is drowning!!!
                        - Pass it along the chain, let it not show off, but it goes like everyone else, on pebbles !!! (Spitting at his feet, in an undertone), And also "Peter"! "
                      5. +4
                        20 July 2020 21: 17
                        laughing
                        Muslims are not the topic here - Christians are supporters of walking on water, Jews are their opponents, and Buddhists are people with super-capable people)).
                      6. +5
                        20 July 2020 22: 08
                        christians are proponents of walking on water,
                        And the Finns are proponents of walking with sticks. Especially in the swamp. Buddhists?
                      7. +2
                        21 July 2020 05: 11
                        No. Because with sticks. laughing
                      8. +3
                        21 July 2020 00: 50
                        To this topic.
                        If only because any Muslim is obliged to know the lives of all three prophets, and in Islam it is - apart from Magomed - Isa and Musa, that is, Jesus and Moses.

                        The concept "Rome was the first Rome, Constantinople is the second, Moscow is the third Rome, and there will be no fourth!" - it is also not quite taken out of thin air. They spied on (fortunately it was from those with whom they had close acquaintances), and creatively rethought. IMHO, the stump is clear, but it hurts on the surface.
                      9. +5
                        21 July 2020 00: 11
                        Quote: 3x3zsave

                        Where is mullah???

                        If the shore does not go to Mohammed ... then - well, his, entot shore! There are few shores in the world, or what! laughing
                      10. +4
                        20 July 2020 19: 47
                        The history of Christianity in Japan is a separate tragedy. And do not laugh at her. It is worthwhile to try on the samples of tsub with Christian symbols, and then ponder over: after all, besides the customer, there was also a performer, and this performer had an apprentice ...
                      11. +3
                        21 July 2020 00: 54
                        The historian of Islam in it, but from the other end, is no less tragic, believe me.
                        Generally not a disclosed topic. And she is. Malaya and the rest of the Philippines are relatively close by, and it is unrealistic to prohibit sea trade.
                      12. +1
                        21 July 2020 18: 31
                        Anatoly! hi
                        Not an open topic at all.
                        Probably yes. In any case, I personally do not know anything about the history of Islam in Japan.
                      13. +1
                        23 July 2020 01: 01
                        I also don't know much, but - the Japanese are the Japanese, there are merchants, and - the south of the archipelago for centuries spat on the shogun (wako is wako) no worse than the north.

                        There in the south there is such a good component of Malaysian material, and that version of Islam in the Japanese manner ...
                      14. +1
                        21 July 2020 13: 51
                        It is worth looking at samples of tsub with Christian symbols, and then thinking: after all, besides the customer, there was also a performer, and this performer, an apprentice ...

                        Christianity in Japan ended with the Shimabara uprising. The Christians were then cut out, and the faith itself was banned, like the head physician Margulis - the TV. stop Christianity came to Japan for the second time together with Admiral Putyatin during the Crimean War. It seems that then a number of Japanese adopted Orthodoxy. hi For this Putyatin is respected by the Orthodox Church. And this is how the Japanese themselves painted it!

                        and here
                      15. Alf
                        +4
                        20 July 2020 19: 32
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Jewish youth generally wanted to give out rakes and hoes without a motor

                        Good deed and necessary. It’s a pity that it didn’t work out.
                      16. +4
                        20 July 2020 19: 47
                        It turned out, but much later - a Zionist project from the end of the 19th century to the present day. hi
                      17. +1
                        20 July 2020 23: 07
                        Quote: Pane Kohanku
                        syphilitic ulcers

                        syphilis stopped the free morals of the then society.
                        Formed a new morality. To suffer sex drive is now a sin. Yes, and everything is a sin. And then syphilis does not sleep.
                        So syphilis and Christianity formed the morality that even now dominates the world. Slightly yielding to progress and modern customs.
                        Even now, they are not as free as they were before syphilis.
                        Maybe because morality managed to pass into laws.
                      18. +4
                        21 July 2020 00: 56
                        You have such yourself with an idea of ​​the mores of that society.
                        Uh-huh, syphilis stopped them. And the plague, along with cholera, stopped unsanitary conditions, and Christianity stopped the murders, along with Islam, each in its own oecumene.
                      19. -1
                        25 July 2020 22: 31
                        Quote: AllBiBek
                        You have such yourself with an idea of ​​the mores of that society.

                        I am certainly not a contemporary of those people.
                        But we have always been and are hypersexual beings.
                        This is the gift of evolution.
                        Quote: AllBiBek
                        And the plague, coupled with cholera, stopped unsanitary conditions

                        and thanks to which mankind learned to quarantine, and the basics of medicine. Only on death.
                        Death 2/3 so that the rest observe at least something, and do not try to save themselves with the cross and prayers.
                        Changing morals quickly can only be done through mass deaths, as well as from desperate attempts to find antidotes to death.
                        Quote: AllBiBek
                        on a par with Islam, and each in its own ecumene

                        Islam is a young religion and at first they carried the torch of civilization. And they carried it with honor and passed it on to future successors.
                  2. VIP
                    +3
                    20 July 2020 20: 40
                    This bloke in a green cap, what does he take out of a man's insides?
                    Then they adored various delights in executions
                    1. +2
                      20 July 2020 22: 32
                      This bloke in a green cap is - as it were - the executioner. This is such a profession. Very respected, but very mutant.
                      1. VIP
                        +1
                        22 July 2020 12: 03
                        Thank you for saying, otherwise the preacher thought. We joke.,
                      2. +1
                        22 July 2020 21: 36
                        We're joking.
                        Well then!
                    2. +3
                      21 July 2020 00: 59
                      One of the options for the execution of sodomy at that time, if I'm not mistaken.
                      A little later, they improved it, and began to slowly saw with a saw from the crotch to the back of the head in a head down position. But this is in a quarter of a thousand years somewhere.
                      1. +3
                        21 July 2020 12: 00
                        One of the options for the execution of sodomy at that time, if I'm not mistaken.

                        This hanging, gutting and quartering is the most terrible execution in England at that time. So they executed for high treason. By the way, the hero Mel Gibson from the movie "Braveheart" was executed in the same way.
          2. +3
            21 July 2020 02: 59
            Hi, Nikolay! hi
            According to the generally accepted opinion, Colonel Colt really equaled everyone. And Musyu Guillotin simply mechanized the labor of the executioners and, in a certain version, invented a new entertainment device for the then public. smile
            1. +4
              21 July 2020 13: 22
              in some form, invented a new entertainment device for the then public

              in fact, you are right. The whole city went to watch the execution. It was necessary to have some fun! request
              And Musyu Guillotin simply mechanized the work of the executioners

              given the volume of executions, it was necessary. The executioner was tired too. In Nantes, revolutionary commissars, rabid with blood, simply drowned all unreliable barges ... No. Fast and relatively efficient.
              1. +4
                21 July 2020 13: 52
                Well, about barges, the Bolsheviks quickly adopted their experience.
                1. +5
                  21 July 2020 13: 55
                  Well, about barges, the Bolsheviks quickly adopted their experience.

                  Uncle Kostya, I don't know what they were doing there, but the "site communists" will quickly explain to you that nothing like that happened, everyone lied, and at the same time a number of epithets about you. hi How it was there - I don't know. Better not even remember the Civil. There weren't any angels on either side, everyone was good. stop that some burned, that others burned.
                  1. +4
                    21 July 2020 13: 57
                    I agree with you, everyone was good. How was Father Angela: "Beat the red ones until they turn white, beat the white ones until they turn red." laughing
  5. +7
    20 July 2020 10: 11
    what
    Astrolabe (Greek Astrolabon) at the beginning of the 5th century AD was known to the Christians of the Mediterranean.
    It seems to me that Herbert "did not invent the wheel." By the 12th century, the scale may have been modified for the upper (northern) latitudes.
    The armillary sphere was known to the Greeks (if I am not mistaken) at the time of Plato.
    If he improved it, coupled with the methods of mathematical calculations, he rather predetermined astronomy.
    Then came the Grandstock, then Sextan.

    Maybe he was not a warlock at all, but a theorist? Since he studied books with an incomprehensible name for his contemporaries, and in those days if the book was not called "The Bible", then from the "evil one".
  6. +8
    20 July 2020 10: 57
    The library of Cordoba is said to hold up to half a million books, while the best European libraries boasted only a thousand.
    Even 600. True, modern scientists have cut down the sturgeon very much, to 000. Such an astronomical number was based on information that the catalog consisted of 600 volumes. Modern researchers, in particular Richard Hitchcock, confused "volume" and "pages" during translation, that is, the catalog consisted of 44 pages.
    1. +2
      21 July 2020 01: 13
      You operate in terms of your time.
      At that time - as well as a couple of thousand years before him - the amount of written information was measured in scrolls. Papyrus.
      Translated into the modern - well, take any antique dialogue or narration - roughly an A3 spread on both sides and without pictures. A maximum of one hundred thousand characters.
      The same "Notes on the Gallic War" is a dozen scrolls. "State" by Plato - two scrolls, "Anabasis" by Xenophon - it seems six.

      Half a million scrolls - translated into the realities of our time and in written signs - roughly the city library of the district center. And her reading room.
      1. +3
        21 July 2020 17: 05
        You operate in terms of your time
        It is not I who operate, but modern scientists. So all the questions are for them.
  7. VLR
    +10
    20 July 2020 11: 24
    By the way, once I suddenly felt like a "foreign professor" in a parody: when on the beach of a hotel in Makadi I suddenly heard a theological dispute between three elderly women (two Ukrainians and a Russian) about tomos. I didn’t have a retinue with me, not like the naked beauty Gella, but even a cat, so, of course, I didn’t get into their conversation, but sitting next to me listened attentively smile
    They came to the conclusion that the "tomos is not real" - because the patriarch did not leave it in Kiev - showed it and took it with him.
    1. +2
      20 July 2020 13: 44
      And eavesdropping is uncivilized.
      1. VLR
        +5
        20 July 2020 15: 33
        Well, I'm out of academic interest. And they spoke at the top of their voices, perhaps they would even be flattered by the presence of a listener smile
      2. Alf
        +2
        20 July 2020 20: 46
        Quote: Free Wind
        And eavesdropping is uncivilized.

        And what have the special services been doing at all times?
        1. +1
          20 July 2020 23: 09
          Quote: Alf
          And what have the special services been doing at all times?

          We know that
          uncivilized overheard and impolitely intervened!
          1. Alf
            0
            21 July 2020 19: 18
            Quote: Cristall
            Quote: Alf
            And what have the special services been doing at all times?

            We know that
            uncivilized overheard and impolitely intervened!

            And some were even shot intolerantly.
    2. +4
      21 July 2020 03: 13
      That's right, Valery, without the Cat anywhere! laughing And thanks a lot for the article! good

      Where without him, such a unique! laughing drinks
  8. +8
    20 July 2020 12: 48
    But Herbert did not cohabit with the beautiful Meridiana, but studied in Catalonia - in Vic.

    Wikipedia? Here, rascal!
    But seriously, very interesting stuff. Thank you.
  9. +7
    20 July 2020 13: 23
    that his ancestor was Simon Magus - the same

    - So, Vanek, now you will glorify Mamon, King Herod, Simon the Magi ... and Lucretius Borgia ... what
    - Lu-Lu-Lucretius n-I won't ... No.

    (film "The Monk and the Demon"). I bow for the article! drinks
    1. +4
      20 July 2020 13: 36
      By the way, Herod, if we abstract from the New Testament, was a completely normal ruler - during the famine in Judea he sold all the jewels that were in the palace and bought grain for the people.
      1. +4
        20 July 2020 13: 54
        during the famine in Judea, he sold all the jewels that were in the palace and bought grain for the people.

        I remember from his non-biblical deeds that he kept his dead wife in honey .... what
        1. +4
          20 July 2020 14: 09
          Monogamous is romantic
        2. +4
          20 July 2020 17: 07
          Everything can be, V.I. Lenin, while developing embalming compositions, kept the same in honey. Only honey has a bad feature, all wounds - scratches received during life, begin to open when embalming in honey.
          1. +4
            20 July 2020 19: 43
            Tin. In general, according to Jewish law, he had to bury her.
            1. +5
              20 July 2020 22: 34
              So they buried his wife, according to Jewish law.
              And he smeared another with honey ...
              1. +3
                20 July 2020 23: 35
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                And he smeared another with honey ...

                there are such fools.
                But the legend mentioned only Mariamne....
                Or were there other sweet ones?
              2. +2
                21 July 2020 05: 14
                He brought dead little kittens with him))
      2. Alf
        +3
        20 July 2020 19: 36
        Quote: Krasnodar
        By the way, Herod, if we abstract from the New Testament, was a completely normal ruler - during the famine in Judea he sold all the jewels that were in the palace and bought grain for the people.

        It’s interesting, but what was the ruler supposed to do in that intolerant era when he found out that someone undermines faith, by the way, the foundation of the state? Suggest a choice between a loop or uranium, to blame, copper mines?
        1. +4
          20 July 2020 19: 45
          What did you mean? About the gospel? Historians believe one hundred years he died at least a year before the birth of Christ.
          1. Alf
            +2
            20 July 2020 19: 46
            Quote: Krasnodar
            What did you mean? About the gospel? Historians believe one hundred years he died at least a year before the birth of Christ.

            And who sent Christ to the cross?
            1. +5
              20 July 2020 19: 48
              On the cross is Pilate. Pilate passed the scribes - Temple nobility.
              1. Alf
                +3
                20 July 2020 19: 51
                Quote: Krasnodar
                On the cross is Pilate. Pilate passed the scribes - Temple nobility.

                You are right, I forgot.
                1. +4
                  20 July 2020 19: 53
                  Herod was credited with the massacre of babies in Beit Lehem.
              2. -1
                20 July 2020 23: 39
                Quote: Krasnodar
                On the cross is Pilate. Pilate passed the scribes - Temple nobility.

                Formally, the high priests brought forward the accusations.
                Pilate gave "Good".
                For pennies. Something about 760 kg of gold was dumped ...
                Although Pontius needed gold to pay for the plot .. And he still needed tables ..
                And the attempt to offer amnesty from Pontius grows from there.
                1. +1
                  21 July 2020 05: 01
                  They could not press charges - Jesus was tried for separatism, what have they to do with it? Surrendered by interrogation - yes.
                  1. -1
                    25 July 2020 22: 38
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    They could not press charges - Jesus was tried for separatism, what have they to do with it? Surrendered by interrogation - yes.

                    The dispute about the judgment of Christ is an old one. The rabbinic tradition considered the crimes attributed to Him to be worthy of death. And this is an attempt on the Temple (Matt. 26, 61; Mark 14, 58; Acts 6, 11), claims to the status of the Messiah of the Son of God or the Son of the Blessed (Matt. 26, 63-65; Mark 14, 61- 63), non-observance of the holy Sabbath (Mt. 12:10; Lk. 6:7; John 5:16; 9:16), blasphemy: forgiveness of people's sins, which only God can do (Mt. 2:7; Mt. 9:3; Luke 5:21)
                    1.It is true that some researchers, usually Jewish, deny that Jesus was tried by the official Jerusalem Sanhedrin of 71 members
                    2. In their opinion, the judgment against Jesus was hastily passed by the Sadducee temple elite, albeit led by the high priest
                    3. It is unlikely that the Pharisees participated in the trial of Jesus, who, being patriots, would not approve of the extradition of a Jew to the Romans. And the crowd gathered at Pilate consisted of Sadducee accomplices and henchmen
                    4. But whoever judged the Sanhedrin Christ or a narrow temple group, it was the real Jewish power, which deliberately went to violate the customary rights and rules of the Jewish court
                    Judea already had something that was forbidden in other provinces. And because of this, the templars made good talents (measure of the scales)
                    So this character of fairy tales was worth a day's earnings in gold. 720 kg .. (though on holiday)
                    1. -1
                      25 July 2020 23: 25
                      All Jewish researchers, together with their non-Jewish colleagues, experts in Judaism of that era and Judaism, consider this not a trial, but an interrogation, since for the trial there were more than 70 violations of the rules for its conduct.
              3. +3
                21 July 2020 03: 21
                On the cross - Pilate

                It seems that just someone did not answer someone's question "What is truth?" request
          2. +4
            20 July 2020 21: 07
            Quote: Krasnodar
            What did you mean? About the gospel? Historians believe one hundred years he died at least a year before the birth of Christ.

            If we focus on astronomy, then Jesus was born, most likely 12 years before his official (recognized by the Church) birth. For a better candidate for the Star of Bethlehem than Halley's comet is difficult to find (if, of course, there was a boy and there was a star). And in 12 BC. Herod the Great was still a little alive.))
            1. +3
              20 July 2020 21: 12
              So yes - I'm not arguing with anyone)).
            2. +3
              21 July 2020 03: 27
              Igor, hello! hi
              People had different opinions about Halley's Comet.
        2. 0
          20 July 2020 20: 39
          From the point of view of the Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, it was absolutely indifferent who undermines the Jewish faith, which is fundamentally contrary to the state religion of Rome - paganism. The head of the Jewish Sanhedrin had to blackmail the governor by stating that if Jesus was pardoned, the Jews would send a denunciation to Rome against Pilate himself, who supposedly did not take into account Jesus’ claims to state power in Palestine (which in reality did not happen for a simple reason - Jesus did not limited his religious teachings to one shabby Roman province).

          But Pilate, who perfectly understood the situation, turned the arrow towards the Sanhedrin anyway, when, after condemning Jesus, he invited the Jews to pardon one of the condemned within the framework of custom. The Jews pardoned the criminal Barabbas and became a god-damned people.
          1. 0
            21 July 2020 05: 07
            1) The separation of Judea from the Roman Empire is separatism. The Messiah is the king of the Jews, who was supposed to free the country and people from foreign power. Jesus did not undermine the foundations of Judaism.
            2) The Jews never had a custom of pardoning someone.
            1. -3
              21 July 2020 10: 36
              Jesus in his teaching did not lay claim to the filthy Roman province of Palestine, but to the whole world.

              Tell us yet another Jewish anecdote about the customs of the Jews of the beginning of our era - together we will laugh laughing
              1. -1
                21 July 2020 10: 39
                lol
                Jesus claimed the whole world ?? Do not go to the pagans, do not go to the Samaritan city? laughing
                And why tell jokes - a bunch of literature of that time exists, starting from the rabbis, ending with Philo of Alexandria and Joseph Flavius ​​- you don't have to go far for this - everything is in the public domain fellow
      3. -1
        21 July 2020 01: 16
        Well, it's like a joke about "- Moishe, where did you get such an expensive watch? - Yes, my father sold it for half the price before his death ...".
        The question is: to whom did Herod sell them and for how much?
        After all, the same Jews are around ...
        1. +3
          21 July 2020 05: 09
          Herod consolidated his power with Roman swords, and he was from the Edomites - his father converted to Judaism, his mother was a steppe - an Arabian.
  10. -8
    20 July 2020 13: 37
    Instead of recalling the scientific interests of the Roman popes, it is better to focus on the core topics of the military academy - the naval war between the Russians and the Byzantines of 1043, ending with the right of the Grand Duke of Kiev to independently appoint the Russian Metropolitan and extraditing his daughter Konstantin Monomakh for his son Yaroslav the Wise.

    A clear comparison of Russian shuttles with Byzantine dromons to understand the reasons for the victory of the Byzantines in the open sea and their subsequent defeat in shallow coastal water
    https://информа.рус/ярослав-мудрый/внешняя-политика/войны-и-походы/константинополь-1043/
    1. +2
      20 July 2020 20: 21
      Here you write
      1. -3
        20 July 2020 20: 41
        On a fig - I gave a link to a meaningful article.
    2. +1
      20 July 2020 23: 42
      Quote: Operator
      naval war between the Russians and the Byzantines in 1043,

      Did the Byzantines have a strong Black Sea Fleet?
      The Roman empires did not seek to have a strong fleet outside of the Alma Mater zone.
      And from raiding wars the regular fleet is not very good.
      1. -2
        21 July 2020 00: 09
        Judging by the article (see the link in my comment), Konstantin Monomakh pulled the entire regular Byzantine fleet from the Mediterranean in order to repel the campaign of the Russian small fleet against Constantinople. After a storm in the Black Sea near the Bosporus, which drowned a smaller part of the Russian fleet, the latter withdrew to the Dnieper-Bug estuary, where, in response, it drowned half of the Byzantine fleet.

        As a result, Konstantin Monomakh satisfied all the requirements of Yaroslav the Wise.
  11. +8
    20 July 2020 14: 09
    The most offensive is that even in our time, these silly medieval rumors and gossip have an impact on the perception of the image of this handsome and extraordinary person.

    I agree with Valery's assessment.
    Unfortunately, very rarely people who see their duty in the development of science and education are in power, and in fact, in fact, it is science that moves humanity forward in a global sense. The hero of the article did not make any great discoveries, did not invent something new, but he managed to return to Europe the knowledge she had lost, at least in part. It is especially strange to see such acts on the part of the highest church hierarch. Still, the church is one of the most conservative public institutions, moreover, it is alien to rationality, mystical, focused on a person’s subconscious fear of the unknown, and here the Pope is an enlightener. An oxymoron, sorry. smile
    About the succubus.
    Is their relationship with substances such as muses traceable?
    The hypocritical and unnatural in relation to women, Christian morality could turn, as it repeatedly did with various phenomena, the inspiring muse into a succubus-devourer of vital energy, pleasure into pain and torment, and a pure emotional impulse into "sinful passion".
    Tonight I'll drink to the health of my Merediana. smile drinks
    1. +8
      20 July 2020 14: 28
      Tonight I'll drink to the health of my Merediana.

      and for Count Borrell, at the same time. drinks
      1. +7
        20 July 2020 15: 24
        I asked who this Borrel is. In general, a man turned out to be quite worthy, peaceful and not stupid. In general, it is not surprising that he surrounded himself with people like the future pope Sylvester. But to drink for him is still a lot of honor: no matter how you turn it, the feudal exploiter. smile
        1. +6
          20 July 2020 15: 51
          In general, a man turned out to be quite worthy, peaceful and not stupid.

          yes, I had no doubts, in principle ... wink
          But to drink for him is still a lot of honor: no matter how you turn it, the feudal exploiter.

          it was such a time! request Would you like him to be a tolerant free altruist artist? drinks
          1. +6
            20 July 2020 16: 53
            I wouldn't drink to that either. No.
            How was this "free, tolerant artist" blocked, who nailed his scrotum to the square? I don't remember anymore, but I remember exactly what it was.
            Come on all of them, nafig. That we have no one to drink for? There are so many beautiful and smart women around, and for them I will! They inspire us, stimulate and reward what we deserve.
            1. Alf
              +5
              20 July 2020 19: 43
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              How was this "free, tolerant artist" blocked, who nailed his scrotum to the square? I don't remember anymore, but I remember exactly what it was.

              The Forum has already discussed the wild tricks of the plebeian Peacock, who unreasonably considers himself the creator of frescoes.
              This time this, if I may say so, "painter" climbed onto the roof of the asylum for the insane in the form of an insulting gaze, grabbed the smoothie and slashed his ear, causing blood to flood the expensive tiles. The madman's companions and he himself later explained this absurd action as follows:
              "... The prefect and the city cohort of Rome are trying to determine the line between mental illness and the lack of it, and the current healers thereby cut off from the people of Rome those citizens who prevent society from feeling united."
              The healers from the aforementioned shelter for the insane only shrugged, universally declaring that the more they cut off such Peacock people from the people of Rome, the citizens will be calmer, because if he cut off his ear today, what will he cut off tomorrow? Yes, and in the presence of venerable matrons and young children? ..
              “It would be better if I cut off my head,” they repeated to the healers from the city cohort, removing Peacock from the roof. He himself was sent to the temple of Asclepius for examination by the priests.
              The infamous troublemaker of a plebeian family named Pavlinius, known for his daring antics, is accused by the prefect of spoiling city property and will now await trial.
              The one Peacock fell into the hands of the city cohort after an outrageous trick in Naples: together with his henchmen, he brought a mountain of cart wheels to the streets of the city and set about burning them, imitating the Umbrian barbarians who committed the same deeds last winter.
              Earlier, Peacock made an even more outrageous trick: he came to the Champ de Mars, bared naked and nailed his testicles directly with a nail! He explained his actions by protesting against our blessed Caesar Augustus. About how exactly the testicles nailed to the square will harm the emperor, free quires can only guess. Truly, a man with a dull mind is capable of any madness!
              It should also be noted that this Peacock calls himself a "modern painter". However, it is known for certain that he did not paint a single fresco and that he hardly knows the art of painting at all.
              Let the troublemaker suffer the deserved punishment. Ave Caesar!
    2. +3
      20 July 2020 18: 04
      The Church is, of course, a conservative institution. But many scientists of that time graduated from educational institutions that were either attached to monasteries or under the patronage of the church. Yes, and many scientists were monks. Many drinks and dishes were also invented by the monks. The same shampusik was invented by the monks, Grape snails, oysters, the same monks began to crack. As for whether the Muses were the prototype of succubi. So Christianity did not accept the Roman religion. Too many Christians died in the arena, for the glory of Jupiter, and for the amusement of the public, who knows. Concuba, an unmarried woman in ancient Rome. In demonology, succubi and incubus are probably something like a tempter demon. in their demonic guise they have no gender, they are of the middle gender. It looks like the devil might be in them. An incubus is a demon that has taken on a male form, lying on. A succubus demon in female form, lying underneath. Bigotry, of course it is. But at the same time, knightly tournaments were held, knights performed feats for the sake of their Dulcinea.
      1. +6
        20 July 2020 20: 39
        For several centuries, science has developed precisely in spite of the influence of the church. From the moment scholasticism and dogmatics replaced philosophy and the Bible became the only criterion for the truth of any knowledge, the church became an open brake on progress. It is all the more pleasing that among the highest church hierarchs there were people like the hero of the article.
        General depression, some kind of masochism of Christianity - suffer and torment in order to find eternal bliss - are completely incomprehensible to me. Why should something that brings joy to a person be considered a sin just because it brings joy?
        But the attitude of the Christian church towards women is especially outraged, even without taking into account how the adepts themselves, including the highest church hierarchs, implemented this attitude - hypocrisy and hypocrisy.
        As for incubi and succubi, I am not a demonologist, I only know that in both cases erotic moments are dominant. At the same time, as far as I understand, over the course of time, the idea of ​​demonologists about those and others changed towards an increase in the degree of "horror" of these "phenomena." At the dawn of Christianity, these "erodemons" were more attractive and seductive.
        smile
        1. +2
          21 July 2020 03: 41
          At the dawn of Christianity, these "erodemons" were more attractive and seductive.

          Well, judging by what kind of succubus gets to whom, everything is like in normal life. laughing


          But with the incubum, the presentation is somehow simpler.
          1. VLR
            +3
            21 July 2020 06: 53
            The top two images are already modern fantasy interpretations. And the last picture is an allegory of a nightmare, I used it as an illustration for the article "Dreams about something bigger."
          2. +6
            23 July 2020 00: 21
            Uncle Kostya would not have been himself if he had not mentioned women. laughing
            My greetings and respect, Dear. hi drinks
            1. +1
              23 July 2020 08: 01
              Lyosha, hello! I'm glad to see you. smile And the author mentioned the women, I just tried to illustrate.
              1. +8
                23 July 2020 13: 34
                I'm embarrassed to ask ... in the extreme picture is a young lady. This is Kabaeva! The author may have problems with the "basmanny" justice. laughing drinks
                1. +1
                  23 July 2020 15: 21
                  Yes, what problems are there, you do not want to be denounced naked to the whole world, so do not act naked. laughing drinks
                  1. +7
                    23 July 2020 16: 24
                    I exposed the Karlson-Koliostro just upstream. It's time to "pack" and extradite to Ryazan.laughing drinks
    3. +4
      20 July 2020 20: 24
      Mikhail, if you are talking about your spouse, then I will +
      1. +4
        20 July 2020 20: 50
        Even if I didn’t mean my spouse, I would definitely not admit it here. smile
        But in this case, there is nothing to hide. For the "+" - thanks, I will. smile hi
        1. +3
          20 July 2020 20: 55
          You + for frankness, but 2 times you can't put a mark, then I'll wait until another case
    4. 0
      20 July 2020 21: 35
      Remarkably, this Herbert of Aurillac, who is also Pontiff Sylvester II, was a Benedictine.
      what
      I remember that Giordano Burno, who proposed a "heliocentric model of the structure of the world" thanks to intuition, was also a Benedictine.
      Studied books forbidden by the church. Question: Could it be that "forbidden literature" was kept in the monastery?
      1. +1
        20 July 2020 22: 54
        Who was Bruno???
        Giordano Bruno was the disgusting person of his time, like Edik Limonov, he managed to annoy everyone.
        And if, in our humane age, they simply forgot about Limonov, then Bruno's contemporaries simply and unpretentiously burned him.
        1. 0
          20 July 2020 23: 37
          sad
          Was it his "abomination"? Why burned?
      2. +2
        20 July 2020 23: 48
        Quote: Lynx2000
        Giordano Burno, who proposed a "heliocentric model of the structure of the world" thanks to intuition

        It is a pity that a certain heliocentric model was proposed by someone Copernicus 50 years before the period when Bruno lived. Bruno is a philosopher and theologian, not an astronomer.
        1. 0
          21 July 2020 00: 02
          I am not claiming that Bruno is an astronomer. However, in his ideas he argued that the Sun is in the center of the world, the Universe consists of many worlds, etc.

          I wonder what he did so bad that he was burned?
          I have heard allegations that he was a member of Satanig sects and a homosexual ...
          1. +1
            21 July 2020 00: 10
            Quote: Lynx2000
            argued that the sun is at the center of the world,

            He wrote a tract in support of Copernicus and was his follower.
            Quote: Lynx2000
            The universe is made up of many worlds

            More precisely, from an infinite number of worlds and an infinite number of God's options.
            Quote: Lynx2000
            to burn it

            It was for these innumerable gods that they burned it, and also for the denial of the Trinity).

            Quote: Lynx2000
            Statements

            Well, this is already a personal opinion of the comrade. Not confirmed by facts
            1. 0
              21 July 2020 03: 48
              what
              So what?! Copernicus in his works relied on the works of Ptolemy, Ptolemy developed the geocentric system of Aristotle. Bruno "popularized" Copernicus' theory.
              As I understood Bruno, primitively, God is one, only he created many worlds ...
      3. +1
        21 July 2020 01: 19
        Answer: where else can it be stored?
        It still is, oddly enough. In ours, that's for sure.
        Disposal of controversial books and icons - regardless of their historical and cultural value - is not a quick process, with a bunch of bureaucracy, and it is still more complicated than it might seem. Even if the patriarch blesses, blessing is not an order.
    5. 0
      20 July 2020 23: 49
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      Still, the church is one of the most conservative public institutions, moreover, it is alien to rationality, mystical, focused on the person’s subconscious fear of the unknown, and then the pope is an enlightener. Some kind of oxymoron, sorry.

      I won't say so.
      When a sect is not an official religion, then it is aggressive and physically destroys competitors.
      When a sect becomes an official religion, it itself becomes a "Dragon". That is, it has a global task. Which includes education, at least for herself.
      For centuries, the church has preserved the heritage of antiquity (albeit while engaging in the destruction of sinfulness)
      Quite a lot has been preserved and restored by people educated by the church.
      For there was nowhere at first (universities a little later)
      The monopoly on knowledge and science of the century belonged to the church. And they even increased this knowledge.
      Diligently rewriting books. Conducting experiments.
      That concerns the power. THEN it is perverse in its essence. Although sometimes it allows talents to show themselves.
      The church raised architects, artists and others in such a way ..
      The church became a conservative later. Prior to this, the torch of civilization in Europe had to be carried by her.
      And globally, Byzantium and the Arabs.
      ZRI has collapsed badly.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      Studied books forbidden by the church. Question: Could it be that "forbidden literature" was kept in the monastery?

      Bible with obscene pictures. Frequent in Europe. There is in the library of the Vatican.
      In general, the clergy were sufficiently educated and savvy in the matter of obscenities.
      A "forbidden" writer could only become after the machine.
      Manuscripts are piecework.
  12. VLR
    +6
    20 July 2020 15: 41
    Quote: Free Wind
    By the way, a succubus, like an incubus, is rather asexual.

    You are right, then it was believed that this entity, receiving the seed from a man in the form of a succubus, then passes it to the woman in the form of an incubus - and the woman feels it like ice (apparently, it was stored in the refrigerator waiting for a suitable passion?). It’s even interesting, how did Catholic theologians get such knowledge?
    1. +5
      20 July 2020 17: 15
      That's when the basics of in vitro fertilization were laid fellow
    2. Alf
      +3
      20 July 2020 20: 02
      Quote: VlR
      It’s even interesting, how did Catholic theologians get such knowledge?

      The church keeps many secrets... laughing
    3. VIP
      +2
      20 July 2020 20: 45
      If the Succubus or Incubus is pretty, then I would not mind with her either
      1. VLR
        +2
        20 July 2020 22: 34
        These entities are the embodiment of erotic fantasies, and therefore, appearing to the person chosen by him, they took on the appearance of a partner, just for him ideal. Therefore, it was believed that the pleasure of intercourse with incubi and succubi was much higher than usual. At witchcraft trials, concerned investigators paid great attention to these aspects, and many witches "frankly admitted" that ordinary men in such cases were not competitors to incubi.
      2. 0
        20 July 2020 23: 58
        Quote: V I P
        If the Succubus or Incubus is pretty, then I would not mind with her either

        succubus - devil in female form
        it's still OH.
        Albeit in the form of a woman.
        the word succubus, which refers to the masculine gender, but in fact the creature does not have a specific gender and is asexual
        Often described as a young attractive woman, however, she has clawed feet and sometimes webbed wings.
        Meridian is rather an exception to the rule. Usually everything ended more prosaically for partners.
        Although the pagan gods had fun with the earthly ones as best they could ..
        But in Christianity, as always, everything starts well and ends with sin ..
        How can you anthropomorphically invent gods and their behavior and not get a copy of yourself *?
        human gods as a selection of the same people.
        Because the mind of primates did not give birth to anything so different from itself.
      3. +1
        21 July 2020 01: 21
        I have no complaints
        what a succubus does
        and all the incubi I would be on the first
        bitch b...
        (C)
      4. Alf
        0
        21 July 2020 19: 21
        Quote: VIP
        If the Succubus or Incubus is pretty, then I would not mind with her either

        And you do not know what the lovers of such creatures ended up with? Roughly speaking, they were fucked to death. I also love "this business", but I love life even more.
        1. VIP
          +1
          22 July 2020 11: 34
          Alf, and for some reason I also want to live. With "this case" while the caps are possible and necessary. But you need to THINK BADLY and then everything will be fine
          1. Alf
            0
            22 July 2020 18: 13
            Quote: V I P
            But you need to THINK BADLY and then everything will be fine

            Here, here, it is the HEAD, and not the HEAD. laughing
            1. 0
              25 July 2020 22: 40
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: V I P
              But you need to THINK BADLY and then everything will be fine

              Here, here, it is the HEAD, and not the HEAD. laughing

              better NAKED laughing
              1. Alf
                0
                26 July 2020 22: 21
                Quote: Cristall
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: V I P
                But you need to THINK BADLY and then everything will be fine

                Here, here, it is the HEAD, and not the HEAD. laughing

                better NAKED laughing

                And your name is by chance, not Sylvia? An analogy with a nickname? love
  13. +4
    20 July 2020 20: 15
    Sylvester 2 was ahead of his time. Hence all the rumors that he cohabited with Merediana and others.
    I remembered one more not single person - Ulugbek, the grandson of Tamerlane, he was also significantly ahead of his time, but to the credit of the Vatican, they did not destroy everything connected with the name of Herbert. After all, it cost nothing for his successors to say that the abacus, the astrolabe, astrology and everything else is from the evil one and only to the detriment of good Catholics
    1. 0
      20 July 2020 20: 48
      If the Roman cardinals began to destroy everything connected with the obscene memory of the popes and antipopes, then there is little left of the Vatican laughing
    2. +1
      21 July 2020 01: 26
      The Vatican has no habit of saying anything bad about itself, its decisions, and the biographies of its dads.
      At best, the Holy See is stupidly silent.

      Well, if he admits his mistakes or sins, then in half a thousand years, somewhere.

      The only exception I know of - well, they admitted that they burned Giordano Bruno despite his de facto righteousness - after all, less than five centuries later. Yes, and then as a side of the recognition of the fact that the Earth is round.
  14. VIP
    +2
    20 July 2020 20: 41
    Quote: Free Wind
    And eavesdropping is uncivilized.

    Possibly, but sometimes useful
  15. +3
    20 July 2020 21: 21
    Valery, I am your attentive reader and admirer. Today I read your story three times, everything is interesting, but a small jamb: you began the story about Herbert of Aurillac, and then inserted Elisey Bomelius. It seems to me that this is not entirely correct: it was possible to make a separate story about the fate of Elisha Bomeliya. Can you regard my criticism as harmful
    1. VLR
      +4
      20 July 2020 22: 00
      I took the opportunity (the legend of the watch of the warlock Herbert, brought by Bomelius to Moscow) to write a short story about the fate of this handsome adventurer. Perhaps, indeed, it should have been expanded and made Bomelia the hero of a separate article. It would be very light (to read), fictional and slightly ironic, but now it's too late.
  16. +1
    21 July 2020 13: 02
    Quote: VlR
    I took the opportunity (the legend of the watch of the warlock Herbert, brought by Bomelius to Moscow) to write a short story about the fate of this handsome adventurer. Perhaps, indeed, it should have been expanded and made Bomelia the hero of a separate article. It would be very light (to read), fictional and slightly ironic, but now it's too late.

    It is a pity that they did not do that. Don't mix next time.