DARPA in Russian is not DARPA at all. Instead of a breakthrough technology agency, another bureaucratic structure is being created.

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DARPA in Russian is not DARPA at all. Instead of a breakthrough technology agency, another bureaucratic structure is being created.The State Duma of the Russian Federation passed in the first reading the draft law “On the Advanced Research Fund” (DRF), which was presented to the deputies by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. Back in 2010, then-President Dmitry Medvedev said that the country "lacks an effective structure that would deal with the order of so-called breakthrough research and development in the interests of defense and security, including advanced research," similar to the US agency DARPA.

It was at the on-site meeting of the modernization commission in Kolomna. After the meeting, Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov most definitely told reporters: “We’re not going to create any organ similar to that of the American DARPA. But it is necessary to distribute flows, including budget ones, to finance basic science, so-called exploratory research, and such an assignment (and I offered it today, speaking at the commission) as president. ” As the water looked!

MANY MEMBERS

The Defense Advanced Research Progects Agency (DARPA) Agency for Advanced Defense Projects appeared after the launch of the first Soviet artificial satellite of the Earth to catch up and overtake the USSR in the field of astronautics. And then she took up the strategic planning of America’s future, primarily in defense.

DARPA predicts technological development and is looking for promising breakthrough innovations. And the very same orders them - sets tasks for science. And most of these dual-purpose technologies. For half a century, the agency has proved its high efficiency. We can say that the current America, computerized and high-tech, created thanks to DARPA.

What is the secret of sustainability and efficiency of this system, which has not lost its qualities in almost 55 years in a changed world? The creators of the agency were well aware that the only power that could prevent the creators of unprecedented technology was the officials. Therefore, at a time when America was in despair was ready for anything, just to overtake the Soviet Union, they were able to lay in the principle of DARPA existence a powerful defense against bureaucratization. For the agency, there are no approvals, permits, licensing, meetings and everything else that is the strength and raison d'etre of any bureaucratic system. Nothing holds down the creativity of employees.

The DARPA itself is hidden in the secondary structure of the Pentagon. Therefore, no government official can interfere in his activities. At the same time, the agency is also protected from interference by the generals of the Ministry of Defense. No lobbyists - even the ministers, though academics, can not intervene and influence the fantastic decisions of ordinary DARPA managers.

In contrast to the overseas DARPA, the Domestic Fund for Advanced Studies looks like a supplement to a powerful bureaucratic structure. And the law on FPI is mainly devoted to a detailed description of these bureaucratic superstructures, the device and principles of the foundation’s work are not spelled out. They will be prescribed later and approved by venerable officials who preside over the foundation. Naturally, create, as we have established, under him.

Article 10 of the Law on the FPI states: “The fund’s management bodies are the board of trustees of the foundation, the board of directors and the general director of the foundation. The body controlling the financial and economic activities is the audit committee of the fund. A permanent advisory body is created in the foundation - the scientific and technical council of the foundation. ”

In the American DARPA, the entire directorate, including technical workers, numbers 21 people. With a total staff of about 240 people. The highest governing body of FPI is the Board of Trustees of 15 people - seven are appointed by the president, and seven more by the government plus the general director. There is also the chairman of the board of trustees, appointed by the president. The president can terminate all their powers at any time. All trustees, except the general director, do not work on a permanent basis. Deciphering it is simple: they will appoint officials from the old magazine to lead the science of tomorrow. Which and so besides the main work sit on two dozen commissions, committees and supervisory boards. Naturally, they do not delve into scientific affairs, because they do not understand anything about it, but rely on assistants, assistants and advisers who have their own interests and sincere friends from the financial and industrial spheres.

And these people will be concerned not with breakthrough technologies, but with the reaction of their employer. The president said: “genetic and tectonic weapon, And billions gasp in delusional projects. But the necessary “smart” weapons are easily driven under the bench.

MONEY IS RIGHT

The Board meets once every three months. At the same time, only half of the members are needed for a decision. That is, seven officials appointed by the president, and the appointed general director. In addition, at any time they can all be replaced by more loyal. It turns out that strategic decisions defining the future of the country for years ahead, on which its security and place among world powers depend, will not be made on the basis of scientifically calculated future scenarios, but, as has always been in Russia, “what the sovereign will do”. Was it worth making a garden, a fund to create?

Of course, it was worth it! After all, this is not just a bureaucratic structure, but another especially protected channel of solid budget financing. According to the law, FPI is not subject to the provisions of a number of paragraphs of Article 32 of the Federal Law of January 12 1996 No. 7-ФЗ “On Non-Profit Organizations” regulating the procedure for exercising control over the activities of non-profit organizations. And also the provisions of the Federal Law dated 21 July 2005 of the year No. 94-ФЗ “On placing orders for goods, works and services for state and municipal needs” do not apply. And the provisions of the Federal Law of October 26 2002 127-ФЗ “On Insolvency (Bankruptcy)” as well.

On the one hand, it is correct that FPI can order secret research to the most suitable partner without any tenders and purchase any good without tender. On the other hand, the possibilities for abuse are colossal. In DARPA, by the way, competitions are practiced. A theme is announced, for example, a platform capable of automatically carrying cargo over long distances. Participants submit projects, receive funding from DARPA, and a year later, on the range in the Nevada desert, prototype races on 500 miles are organized. Winners receive funding for further development with tight deadlines.

In Russia, a decade and a half, a monopoly industry has been formed, where competition is excluded. To this end, all enterprises are driven into holdings and joint industry corporations. This is called defense reform. Now the same terrible reform begins in some areas of the defense industry. For a monopolist to finish and hand over the development - cut off the branch on which he sits. After all financing will end, there will be only a penny architectural supervision. Therefore, the design will last forever. And you can forget about breakthrough ideas forever. In the inert system they are not needed by anyone. Much more important is the stability of financing.

The control over the financial and economic activities of the fund will be carried out by the audit committee. The provision on it has yet to be approved by the board of trustees. He will appoint the chairman and members. That is, officials will appoint other officials, and, if necessary, will have the right to early terminate their powers and appoint others. Since the provision on the commission has not yet been adopted, it is not known whether it will supervise it constantly or only once a year to review documents.

And unlike the American DARPA, our FPI has the legal right to "carry out income-generating activities." True, "only to the extent that it serves to achieve the goal for which it was created, and corresponds to this goal." It is said quite flowery that allows you to engage in any commerce, investing, gambling and the like. But at the same time, "the fund's profit, obtained as a result of its activities, is directed exclusively to the achievement of this goal."

To achieve this goal, FPI "is entitled to join associations and unions based on decisions of the board of trustees of the foundation." Probably, only in Russia, in order to get breakthrough technologies, an organization needs to join some League of Industrialists or the Public Front.

FANTAZERS HERE NOT A PLACE

Recall that “the purpose of the foundation’s activity is to promote breakthrough high-risk research and development in the interests of the state’s defense and security, including the modernization of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the development and creation of innovative technologies and the production of high-tech military, special and dual-use products”.

Confused by the expression "to promote the implementation of ... research and development." The specific result is not provided, only assistance. Translated into the language of native aspens - "distribution of money." Since the money is distributed for high-risk projects, it is easy to predict a complete failure. Money will be spent, the result is zero, reporting is attached, everyone is happy. DARPA has a clear focus on an achievable result even in the most risky projects. Project duration is three to five years. If the results are weak, the development is at a standstill, the prospects are not visible - funding stops. So it was, for example, with the project "air laser". For several years now, Boeing has been drawing this project at its own expense, trying to get funding, but DARPA is inexorable.

Who is involved in the selection of projects? At DARPA, these are handled by managers. They are exactly a third of the staff of the agency. The average age is 37–40 years. University education and degrees have from 20 to 50%. The number is not constant, because there is a staff turnover. The manager's salary is $130 per year. Among them are not only engineers, but also biologists, philologists, and even self-taught computer scientists. The best managers are science fiction writers and fantasy lovers. It is they who are at the origins of the implementation of ideas that were considered insane: robots-soldiers, stealth aircraft, self-aiming ammunition and the like. Managers are quite independent, they themselves find ideas and manage further development. And if people are driven by enthusiasm, they can move mountains.

Periodically, DARPA gathers conferences to discuss another set of fantastic ideas. Fiction lovers, screenwriters, writers, journalists, young scientists of various specialties, and teachers are invited again. Preliminary contests of ideas, fantastic stories on a given topic, draft designs can be held. In January, 2011, a seminar was held, where the physics of interstellar travel was discussed. This is an integral part of the work on a joint project of DARPA and NASA to launch a manned spacecraft into deep space in 2111 in a year - in 100 years! We are talking about the development of technologies of the XXII century now. Can anyone here even look at 50 years ahead?

The Law on FPI has determined who in Russia “organizes the search, selection of projects and the formation of a list of projects, and also with the involvement of experts and expert organizations prepares the conclusions of the scientific and technical council of the foundation for selected projects”. This is the science and technology council of the foundation. The conclusion of the scientific and technical council of FPI "should contain a conclusion about its compliance with any direction of research in the field of breakthrough high-risk research and development included in the program of the fund’s activity for a three-year period, the project’s implementation period and the approximate amount of funds necessary for its implementation."

Apparently, it should be understood as follows: the board has compiled a three-year list of research directions, the scientific and technical council has found suitable projects and performers. Then the authorities approved. The usual bureaucratic procedure. There is no place for fantastic ideas of the next century. But there is always a place for lobbying, personal and corporate interests.

Now they like to say that in the Soviet Union there was a Military-Industrial Committee under the government - the same is DARPA, only in a Soviet way. Nothing like this. The military industrial complex consisted mainly of ministers and commanders, as in the current military-industrial commission. When the committee also had a council and executive structures, the total number of all these structural formations reached 1000 people. Mainly, they all together were engaged in planning large projects, cooperation, procurement, etc. But there was no talk about breakthrough technologies. The rules of the "monkey effect" - copying Western projects, which guaranteed the eternal lag. The “Buran”, a supersonic Tu-160 bomber, existing in the number of 15 units, and many other things became a symmetrical answer to no one.

A catastrophe for the country was the decision of the military industrial complex in December 1969 of the year on the reorientation of domestic computers to the architecture of the American IBM / 360. Relying on the commercial and illegal acquisition of the finished product turned into a disastrous lag from a potential adversary. The Soviet Union fell behind a whole generation of information technology, was left without an electronic component base and lost the cold war in the sphere of strike weapons and space.

The Advanced Research Foundation being created is anti-DARPA. The structure, initially blinkered, is bound hand and foot by a crowd of leading officials who will make decisions to the best of their incompetence. FPI will occupy a worthy place in the same row with Rosnano, the Russian Venture Company, Skolkovo Innograd and its ilk. They were also created for breakthrough technologies. But if where a breakthrough happened, it's only in the budget. Sadly, one should not be surprised if in a few years the FPI will be deciphered as the “investment investment fund”.
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  1. coast
    +2
    5 August 2012 09: 23
    time will show, wait and believe
    1. Winter
      +37
      5 August 2012 10: 04
      If everything is as the author claims, and officials will take up the matter and you can not wait for several years, the result will be zero!
      1. +32
        5 August 2012 10: 58
        The result will be even worse, it will be negative.

        - What is the philosophy of the Russian thief?
        - Stole, drank, to prison.
        - A Russian official?
        “The same thing, but without jail.”
        1. GHG
          GHG
          +29
          5 August 2012 11: 36
          Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
          The result will be even worse, it will be negative. “What is the philosophy of the Russian thief?” “He stole, drank, and imprisoned.” “And what about the Russian official?” “The same thing, but without a prison.”

          RIGHT: - The same, but without jail, and promotion and career ladder. laughing
          1. Summer
            +26
            5 August 2012 12: 07
            Quote: GES
            The same, but without jail, and promotion and career ladder

            And also the order for the eightieth anniversary, like a Gorbachev! belay
          2. GHG
            GHG
            +19
            5 August 2012 15: 11
            MORE RIGHT: -Stole? Share it! And come to us, we always need such! And you thought the military budget Tolya Serdyukov derbanit? Or maybe a furniture cover?
        2. Protey
          +5
          5 August 2012 12: 03
          Witty and true!
      2. Protey
        +5
        5 August 2012 12: 26
        And this office will be in the form of a huge pyramid, just put upside down, and the real creators of the new at the very bottom!
    2. slas
      +8
      5 August 2012 12: 21
      Quote: bereg
      time will show, wait and believe

      Unfortunately, only to believe. Or are you all the examples of the type of reforms in the Moscow Region as well as in education, etc., etc. are not enough for you?
    3. gojesi
      0
      5 August 2012 12: 54
      the author of the article is a fool and this is in the best case, and the scoundrel - in the worst !!! The abbreviation DARPA is repeated 15 times, the bitch crap on us, and the State Department is promoting it !!! Let the bitch write like that in the "historical homeland" ... Here it somehow does not roll!
      1. Specialist-
        -1
        5 August 2012 19: 03
        Quote: gojesi
        Let the bitch write something like that in the "historical homeland" ... Here it somehow doesn't work!

        I agree. The article is nonsense full. Ordering.
        1. +7
          5 August 2012 20: 03
          In your opinion then all that does not praise our army is it stupidly ordering? smile original approach wink
          1. Bunny
            +7
            5 August 2012 22: 24
            Joker,
            To praise our army, and whatever it is, is not democratic, not fashionable and not advanced! .. Inverted morality, dislocated brains and unprincipledness. negative
    4. 0
      5 August 2012 23: 55
      Judging by the expression on the face, the photo shows the most expensive military kaleidoscope in the world.
  2. Pinochet000
    +8
    5 August 2012 09: 35
    who will make decisions to the extent of their incompetence
    There is nothing to add.
    1. Winter
      +25
      5 August 2012 10: 07
      It is impossible to imagine that science fiction writers were involved in our business! Our main dreamer is Chubais, or some similar individual!
      1. bachast
        +15
        5 August 2012 10: 12
        If a person is guilty, he must answer according to the law. Why is Chubais outlawed? Is he the most powerful in Russia?
        1. Atia
          +18
          5 August 2012 10: 59
          Quote: bachast
          Why is Chubais outlawed? Is he the most powerful in Russia?

          Well, you ask the tasks !!! Probably the most elusive Chubas! feel feel feel
        2. Protey
          +20
          5 August 2012 12: 07
          "Why is Chubais outlawed?" If he had stolen a chicken, they would have planted it, that's what the law is for! And when there are millions, billions - a completely different approach.
          1. cool.cube2012
            +2
            5 August 2012 17: 24
            Protey "Why is Chubais outlawed?" yes, because he is the main Jew in Russia
          2. +9
            5 August 2012 19: 19
            Even Peter 1 said: "Do not take redheads into the navy, they are scoundrels."
      2. +13
        5 August 2012 11: 48
        As aptly said "individuals". I would add "amoebas".
        And the main thing is that they do not manage the Fund for Advanced Technologies.


        The Advanced Research Foundation being created is anti-DARPA. The structure, initially blinkered, is bound hand and foot by a crowd of leading officials who will make decisions to the best of their incompetence. FPI will occupy a worthy place in the same row with Rosnano, the Russian Venture Company, Skolkovo Innograd and its ilk. They were also created for breakthrough technologies. But if where a breakthrough happened, it's only in the budget. Sadly, one should not be surprised if in a few years the FPI will be deciphered as the “investment investment fund”.
  3. +15
    5 August 2012 09: 38
    Step forward, two steps back. For some reason, I agree with the “Investment Eating Fund”. Ghouls at the helm are always all turned in the direction of their enrichment, and as always, we are ready to select noodles
    1. Atia
      +16
      5 August 2012 11: 01
      koksalek,
      We are too accustomed to negativity, and any undertaking not having time to start is already perceived by us as a failure! What to do, so many years of deceived hopes are making themselves felt. request
      1. Specialist-
        +6
        5 August 2012 19: 03
        Quote: Atia
        and any undertaking not having time to start is already perceived by us as a failure

        Yes, not by us, but just always there are all sorts of scribblers paid by whoever needs, who write all ........ and the rest boil up.
        1. Bunny
          +7
          5 August 2012 22: 26
          Quote: Specialist -
          who write all

          But, unfortunately, there are not a few who fall into this smeared oud.
  4. +2
    5 August 2012 10: 04
    Well, let's see what happens. Although the development without implementation in iron is of course garbage. And for the embodiment in the base of iron, then no.
  5. oldmen1973
    +11
    5 August 2012 10: 09
    Honestly, I didn't finish reading it - I put a minus. One negative. it feels like our government does nothing but squander money, undermine the country's defenses, and drive us into the Middle Ages! Gentlemen, do not look for only the bad in any undertakings. "Again - twenty-five", the Americans are clever, they are tearing their shirt off to improve the well-being of the nation, all our officials are corrupt creatures and "Ivans are not remembering kinship." TIRED!
    Let's finally wait for the first results of the work, and then we will criticize.
    1. Atia
      +16
      5 August 2012 11: 04
      Quote: Oldmen1973
      "Again - twenty-five", the americans are clever, they are tearing their shirt off to improve the well-being of the nation

      But the fact that these clever women steal in such a way that ours did not even dream of is somehow overlooked! But they steal it! And we know that very well. Yes Yes Yes
      1. Ymidge
        +12
        5 August 2012 13: 06
        Quote: Atia
        But the fact that these clever women steal in such a way that ours never dreamed of, somehow we lose sight of

        Well, they can! They have a democracy! Poking America into the embezzlement of money is somehow indecent here ... feel
      2. vodka
        +12
        5 August 2012 13: 28
        They have half the world under the hood, who has theft))
        1. +11
          5 August 2012 17: 59
          Well, you are telling a lie - they do not steal, they just take without asking anyone. And not a single mongrel will yap. And they do not have democracy, they are just successful democratizers in someone else’s garden.
          1. Churchill
            +12
            5 August 2012 18: 37
            Quote: AleksUkr
            s in someone else's garden

            They have long considered all the vegetable gardens to be native, therefore this is not theft, but the harvest! wassat
            1. Specialist-
              +7
              5 August 2012 19: 05
              Quote: Churchill
              this is not theft, but the harvest

              Nothing has been stolen yet.
              And times are changing now. We took up such clever people.
    2. +7
      5 August 2012 20: 07
      Quote: Oldmen1973
      Let's finally wait for the first results of the work, and then we will criticize.

      The result will be in 2020.
      I read the article and immediately remembered Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin.
      "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always"
      15 more officials were employed, two times more in line, unemployment is not threatened, the struggle with it is the most successful.
      That is, officials will appoint other officials, and if necessary, will have the right to prematurely terminate their powers and appoint others.
      What a fertile field for corruption and mutual responsibility.
      If everything really happens as the author writes, then most likely it will be a fantastic black hole. At the FPI, I would create a small intelligence office with a specialization in "Technologies", so that they would go to America to DARPA and cooperate there. The result of the FPI's work would be benefit for the country.
  6. +11
    5 August 2012 10: 17
    Let's first look at least at some results of their activities, and then we will judge competency.
    And they haven’t done anything yet, and they haven’t really started to work, and now they’re accused of all mortal sins.
    1. Churchill
      +11
      5 August 2012 18: 39
      volcano,
      Let them know that the million-strong army is closely watching them, so that they do not relax. angry
      1. Bunny
        +7
        5 August 2012 22: 29
        Churchill,
        I’m afraid that officials are so used to spitting on everyone that they have a million eyes before a bauble. Every official thinks he is a navel of land.
  7. +13
    5 August 2012 10: 25
    Article minus.
    The agency has not had time to start working, and they are already trying to do it from all sides, as well as all the initiatives of the government.
    The article is custom-made, biased, and inspired clearly not from patriotic circles.
    1. Atia
      +16
      5 August 2012 11: 06
      Quote: darkman70
      The article is custom-made, biased and inspired clearly not from patriotic circles

      And it is quite likely! According to the plan of puppeteers, Russia is obliged to be a raw materials appendage, but here we are talking about technical breakthroughs! Who will like this. stop
    2. Protey
      +13
      5 August 2012 12: 20
      It's just that we have rich experience in this matter, for which they will not take it, all through the ass! It’s going to get dirty in the papers, and for the papers to move, the staff is huge with chic cabinets, not feeble salaries, etc. Not to mention total theft.
      Then, for the sake of appearance, they will show a layout of some kind of "promising" development, which will never be brought to mind "due to lack of funds" But what can I say - passed ...
    3. gojesi
      +9
      5 August 2012 12: 47
      Quote: darkman70
      Article minus.
      The agency has not had time to start working, and they are already trying to do it from all sides, as well as all the initiatives of the government.

      I absolutely agree with you !!! Pyatokolonniki, under the guise of caring for our money, hypocritically cuddle all positive Russian undertakings! Remember how they howled about the 5th generation airplane, about the Russian chip, computer, electronics ... Everything continues, only the face is made more oily ... caring ... The word DARPA in the article is repeated 15 times !!! We are crap, and the State Department is PR ... Bastards !!!
      1. Specialist-
        +3
        5 August 2012 19: 06
        Quote: gojesi
        The word DARPA in the article is repeated 15 times !!! We are crap, and the State Department is PR ... Bastards !!!

        100% agree with you - Herods
    4. Specialist-
      +2
      5 August 2012 19: 05
      Quote: darkman70
      The article is custom-made, biased and inspired clearly not from patriotic circles

      That's right.
  8. +7
    5 August 2012 10: 43
    In my opinion, the main problems in the development of Russia as a high-tech power are laws (corrupt - allowing for various interpretations or immediately written so that they do not work) and ridiculous punishments for failure to comply even with such laws (for example, fines from corrupt officials).
    With these chains you can get out of the swamp for 1000 years (and will Russia be 1000 years old?). But to introduce a dictatorship (following the example of Pinochet), the gut is weak. Democrats
  9. 0
    5 August 2012 11: 07
    So far, I trust Rogozin and hope for him. As they said in Soviet times, the cadres decide everything. Here they put A. Chubais at the head of Rusnano and instead of specific results received 4 reasons for failure. What did you hope for?
    1. Protey
      0
      5 August 2012 12: 29
      There are achievements, but this is nanotechnology, so not everyone will see them, even through a small scope!
  10. Abramovich
    -3
    5 August 2012 11: 14
    And here is the first Russian successes, Rogozin looks into a three-color kaleidoscope, which also serves as a flask for a vodka lol
    1. GHG
      GHG
      +14
      5 August 2012 11: 39
      I see you can not distinguish a thermal imager from a three-color kaleidoscope ???
    2. Summer
      +14
      5 August 2012 12: 10
      Quote: Abramovich
      and a flask for a vodka

      Abramovich’s longing for a vodka! Nostalgia tortured? .. crying crying crying
      1. Churchill
        +12
        5 August 2012 18: 42
        Summer,
        Exactly Abramovich is an alcoholic! With him, all thoughts inevitably come down to drinking. drinks
        1. Bunny
          +8
          5 August 2012 22: 31
          Churchill,
          Or maybe it is encoded, so it yearns for the past selfless revelry? crying
  11. bremest
    +4
    5 August 2012 11: 43
    ".... the only force that can prevent the creators of unprecedented technology is the officials." You can't argue with it ...

    But after all, it was DARPA that was the body that buoyed trillions of dollars in F-22, and then it turned out that it was visible on the radars of the USSR air defense systems.
    I think that with any idea you need to be very careful, because Makarych and Taberetkin will ruin any good idea and best undertakings, because they don’t take care of their homeland, but of their pocket and foreign country
    1. jamert
      +9
      5 August 2012 16: 01
      DARPA, for your information, has never participated in the F-22 project, and in general in any project for the development of specific equipment. It finances the development of only promising technology, and then on its basis they create equipment at the expense of military and civilian customers. If there are any. And if not, the technology goes into the box. That is, this organization does not directly produce weapons.
      And if DARPA were so bad - they did not create an organization in Russia (as well as in South Korea, India, etc.) b.
    2. +3
      5 August 2012 18: 07
      Taburetkin and Makarov fit to start thinking not only about their pocket, but about how to bring this pocket to a foreign land. Owners also do not always, and do not like destroyers for long, like killers. Lost someone, or destroyed something, and at a cost. For the destroyers of the USSR and Russia, there may also be a master who needs other executors of other tasks, and the old witnesses, I mean, are not needed.
  12. +1
    5 August 2012 11: 53
    Good day to all!
    Something must be done with these ghouls. Somehow to reach out to GDP so that he cleans among amoeba unicellular.
    1. Pinochet000
      +9
      5 August 2012 11: 58
      Quote: Delink
      Somehow to reach out to GDP

      Do you think he is not up to date?
    2. +8
      5 August 2012 18: 12
      He won’t be able to reach him. He likes only those who threaten to bring a crowd to Moscow to suppress the offending GDP. At a GDP show with the people in December, he was directly asked questions about mediocrity ministers. And where are these ministers now? Yes, that's right. They all became the closest assistants and advisers. He does not need the people, his opinion does not interest any of the officials. The GDP has its own plan, a secret one, which it does not communicate to anyone. But everyone has heard that we are all striving to fulfill Putin's plan. Good luck to everyone!
      1. Churchill
        +10
        5 August 2012 18: 46
        Quote: AleksUkr
        And where are these ministers now

        He is just wary of letting them go from himself so that they don’t rush to the swamp!
        They have the same method; for now, when it comes to things, everything goes according to plan, but if you throw it out into the street, that's it! ready-made revolutionary, whistleblower and connoisseur of universal values! recourse
        1. wall
          +3
          5 August 2012 21: 12
          An original way to govern the country. What can I say.
          1. Facturin
            +5
            5 August 2012 23: 14
            wall,
            Well, do not shoot them, the times are not the same ... request
  13. sd34rwesgf
    0
    5 August 2012 12: 09
    The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
    I generally accidentally found him http://tini.cc/1jt
    Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
    And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
    Well, the truth is that you can delete all
  14. Nikita
    0
    5 August 2012 12: 28
    Hi guys! The question is not the topic:
    Has anyone heard of FFI biocatalysts?
    Does it really save fuel by 20-30%?
    Does it really harm the car?
    1. Protey
      0
      5 August 2012 18: 56
      "Does it really save fuel by 20-30%?" - fairy tales!
  15. red 015
    0
    5 August 2012 12: 57
    time will show whether it is effective or not
  16. Aftar
    +7
    5 August 2012 13: 36
    DARPA, by and large, is a screen covering billion-dollar scams. When nothing is done, but it pretends that something is being done, and then after the invested millions, a conclusion is issued "the project is not profitable" or "the project is closed." For Russian embezzlers, such an organization would really be a godsend.
    1. jamert
      +10
      5 August 2012 16: 03
      Original. You respected use the Internet, developed at the expense of DARPA, and you have a computer based on technologies financed in due time by the same organization.
      1. Churchill
        +10
        5 August 2012 18: 48
        jamert,
        It seems that the guys gathered there are talented, so that one does not interfere with the other; And invent the Internet and squeeze a billion! hi
  17. +7
    5 August 2012 13: 38
    It seems to me that too much has been put on Rogozin and they are expecting feats from him, and yet in the existing scheme of kickbacks he either does not have a place or will have to break the system. And in essence he is also an official, even with progressive views.
    If you were planning to copy DARPA, then you should not have created this structure from officials alone. They scored a dozen Baumanka graduates and these (not knowing official games) talents would have turned mountains !!
    1. +6
      5 August 2012 16: 45
      Quote: APASUS
      in the existing scheme of kickbacks, he either does not have a place or will have to break the system.

      Or fit into the system. There is another option, in my opinion the most real. Rogozin plays the role of a wedding general, on whom nothing depends, but who is everywhere present, acts, inspects, declares, etc.
      1. +3
        5 August 2012 20: 33
        Quote: Karabin
        Or fit into the system.

        It’s a bit different. Writing in a scheme is a direct way to retire !! They won’t allow breaking the system either !! And judging by the rates and ambitions, a person will look for a choice how to stay and not fall into disgrace !!
        Then they’ll break a couple of enterprises, put a couple of directors, roll out a new tank ((raw log for a sample)) and here it is new, Not for a dirty leader !! An official from scratch, the hero and winner of the military-industrial complex!
  18. pavlo007
    +5
    5 August 2012 14: 48
    Apparently one splinter is not enough for draining and cutting, you still need to come up with a theme ... They came up with something similar.
  19. in reserve
    -1
    5 August 2012 15: 15
    America is so good that a country of great opportunities "who was nothing will become everything."
    1. jamert
      +8
      5 August 2012 16: 05
      In the states, great opportunities really exist. but on one condition - you must have 150-200 thousand dollars to start. Otherwise, Pasha from morning till night in the office for his uncle.
      1. in reserve
        +7
        5 August 2012 16: 28
        I'm talking about the fact that if you really have a talent or something you have invented, you will certainly be noticed, and if it has economic benefits, then you will not be left out of the way. But in our country, bureaucrats are hindering development because they think how to make money, they think only today, and they are not happy about the development of Russia.
        1. Churchill
          +10
          5 August 2012 18: 51
          Quote: in stock
          And we have bureaucrats

          Bureaucrats are the same everywhere, a breed such as Siamese cats, and whatever you invent and talent are erratic, you will always have a co-author from local authorities, and you can’t even dream of a copyright emigrant.
          1. wall
            0
            5 August 2012 21: 23
            Have you been to America? Or lived? Where such confidence?
    2. +5
      5 August 2012 19: 22
      If you're lucky, you'll be a janitor.
  20. Nechai
    +2
    5 August 2012 16: 37
    Quote: jamert
    you must have 150-200 thousand dollars to start. Otherwise, Pasha from morning till night in the office for his uncle.

    Another IMMANDABLE condition is your family, you must be at the extreme, MUST be come in to at least the local elite. Absolute trustworthiness and devotion to American ideals should not cause a single drop of doubt. The times of genius emigrants who made technical progress and, accordingly, OWN fortunes have long passed. Beautified, warmed, hung up with loans and debts AND WRAPPED, WRAPPED as sticky (intellectual). And there you like .... You’ll like it, why should you sell something brilliant for cheap ... if you just don’t steal it. Because attentiveness will be already dense.
  21. 916-th
    +4
    5 August 2012 16: 58
    Remember the parable of the half glass? An optimist says he's half full, and a pessimist says he's half empty. One and the same obvious fact is INTERPRETED by them diametrically opposite.

    So we interpret the same decisions and actions of the authorities from the standpoint of diametrically opposed attitudes. Some say: “Time will tell, wait and believe,” “We must somehow reach out to Putin!”, Others say to them: “Ghouls at the helm are always all turned towards their enrichment, and as always, we’re ready to pick noodles”, “You Do you think Putin is not in the know? ”

    However, the decisions and actions of the authorities are not a half glass. A glass of what? It costs itself and costs, does not ask to drink. But the decisions and actions of the authorities, who have been at the helm for a long time, can be tracked, and trends and patterns can be understood. With regard to the topic of breakthrough technologies being discussed, it probably makes sense to look at the previously launched Skolkovo and Rusnano projects - how they started, were announced, promoted, developed, and what is their modern implementation.

    Recently I read a paraphrase of Chernomyrdin's catchphrase: "We wanted it as always, but it turned out even worse." Now I sit and think: "Am I a pessimist or a realist?" It is sad that the authorities allow their actions to be interpreted in different ways, there is no unambiguity!
  22. +1
    5 August 2012 17: 30
    And for some reason it does not surprise me that this is another bubble !!!
  23. 0
    5 August 2012 18: 29
    For all its progressive views, Rogozin is part of the system. He will not be allowed to expand widely if there is no support for GDP. Let's hope that he can hold out as long as possible.
  24. mechanic11
    +2
    5 August 2012 18: 33
    It’s a good and objective article. Similar people read in the Sov. Secret about the production of the Kalashnikovs (about 2 years ago) about the collapse and factory structure. And recently, somewhere in May, about new appointments to the manager’s factories, some former Komsomol members -torgashi- who made a fortune in 1990-2000. They took away those who knew production for 30-40 years, appointed a crisis-commom-. management.
    1. Protey
      +2
      5 August 2012 19: 07
      Due to the stupidity of the bosses, engineers are mowing grass at work, the main task of the duty shift of the transmitter workshop is to monitor the garbage containers on the territory, etc. etc. Well, what quality of work or God forgive the development, we can talk ??? request
  25. +5
    5 August 2012 19: 30
    Inventing a bicycle. Let's recall the NEP Law on Invention of the Times. Does anyone remember how much% was supposed to be for the inventor from the amount of sales of the implemented invention during the first 5 years ??? That's the same thing. By stimulating geniuses we are stimulating the economy and through it defenses.
    1. iSpoiler
      0
      5 August 2012 21: 10
      I am current for .....
      give adequate and competent motivation good
  26. iSpoiler
    +1
    5 August 2012 21: 07
    I don’t understand why they criticize DARPU, for us it’s clear that PPC is difficult, for a long time and most likely very expensive ...
    Damn if it weren’t for DARP, we wouldn’t communicate with you here ....
    It was there that ARPAnet was created in the late 60s - a network between the computers of major US universities and some government agencies .. well, and the Ministry of Defense konesh ..
    on this basis, and became megapopular created around the world in the 90s WWW ..
    tobish the Internet ... such as we see ...
    Do not underestimate such projects ..
  27. Oleg Rosskiyy
    +6
    5 August 2012 22: 18
    In order to create a technological impetus in Russia, without bureaucracy and corruption in government and other spheres of life, it is necessary to establish total control over the entire population of the country, as in the United States, and not only over officials, but it will no longer be a democratic state. the situation in Russia did not develop, one thing is obvious, if for the positive side for the Russians, there will be more dirt and accusations from the West, and vice versa.
    1. Bunny
      +6
      5 August 2012 22: 35
      Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
      there will be more dirt and accusations from the West, and vice versa

      Yes, let them scream, we have somehow got used to it. Yes Yes Yes
  28. yak69
    -1
    5 August 2012 23: 10
    Immediately I propose to appoint there the most important performer of the most effective manager of all times and peoples - CHUBAIS. And you can sleep peacefully, the money will be spent quickly and without a trace. Moreover, in any volume! He has already mastered breakthrough nanotechnologies and is not saving here. The road to Chubais, the faithful comrade-in-arms of Messrs. Yeltsman-Pukin-Mendel !!
  29. 101
    101
    0
    6 August 2012 00: 18
    Where SVR did they send the service to retirement? I thought it was their business to sniff out to analyze and report. Why again, invent a bicycle, parasites
  30. Lesorub
    0
    6 August 2012 00: 48
    Dima with GDP a few years ago, all the research institutes ditched, which "did not have" "applied" meanings for the military-industrial complex, oil and gas .... All the same, these "YURYSTY"
  31. 0
    6 August 2012 01: 12
    http://warfiles.ru/show-10906-raspad-sssr-a-chto-sobstvenno-raspalos-to.html
  32. 0
    6 August 2012 02: 01
    hell is what to expect at Skolkovo already looked .... (Selikonovaya valley etit her) .. the same will be and with this I am amazed ... optimists
    each time they say one thing, they say we’ll see what happens. name what our government did, what program was implemented from the global .... I’ll say that I’m wrong and how the alarmist say
  33. sapulid
    0
    6 August 2012 02: 29
    Good article. You can talk after August 2, on a sober head.

    The official and his place in the state. The official, he is the sovereign servant, the cattle necessary. With their help, the sovereign spends his will to the masses and monitors its fulfillment. The addiction of this estate to excessive cloning, bribery, understatement, lack of responsibility, etc., etc., is known.
    However, there are exceptions. They know their job and are ready to lay their heads for it. Some of them are so fused with work that they confuse the sovereign's pocket with his own. But, the job is perfect and steals, without much damage.
    Can the emperor do without them? Paradoxically, without 90% of this living creature you can do without serious consequences. They are either clerks who write reports, or who write instructions for writing reports. Digital technology will help. The rest will follow the sovereign will. Then, they will steal less, because, in plain sight, like ...
  34. 0
    13 August 2012 15: 19
    What is the difference how to call / name this or that department. It is important that this department has the following output: steam that goes into the whistle or real developments that allow strengthening the state’s defense power. The Russian Ministry of Defense has more than enough organizations whose direct responsibility is to oversee and distribute funding for the creation of new types of weapons. And all kinds of funds are nothing more than a feeder for those who are able to manage these funds. And then what does promising development mean? The prospect of any new type of weapon is determined by the ability of those who issue TTZ for its development to see the prospects of its use in the general armament system of the armed forces. And this is, as a rule, specialized research institutes of the Moscow Defense Ministry. So it is necessary that these research institutes be staffed with people with brains, and not without, and with a clear idea of ​​what the modern army needs.