Syrian Rubicon of the Russian Navy. Ships of the Russian Navy rushing around the Mediterranean with unclear objectives

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Syrian Rubicon of the Russian Navy. Ships of the Russian Navy rushing around the Mediterranean with unclear objectivesLiterally every day, new explanations are announced on the tasks that were set by a detachment of Russian warships sent to the Mediterranean Sea. However, for some reason, clarity in this matter is not increasing. It seems that in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, the command fleet today there is no clear idea of ​​why the Middle East has a significant naval grouping and how it can be used.

Ten days ago, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced that a detachment of warships of the Northern Fleet had passed the Strait of Gibraltar and was entering the Mediterranean Sea. The detachment consists of large landing ships (BDK) "Alexander Otrakovsky", "George the Victorious", "Kondopoga" and the rescue tugboat SB-921, as well as sentry ships from the Baltic Sea, Yaroslav the Wise, Fearless, and a tanker "Lena". The report noted that a detachment of warships of the Black Sea Fleet is already in the designated area of ​​the southeastern Mediterranean, consisting of large landing ships Caesar Kunikov and Nikolai Filchenkov, patrol ship Smetlivy and two support ships. In addition, the large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet "Vice-Admiral Kulakov", which had previously participated in ensuring the safety of navigation in the Gulf of Aden, joined the general plan for the fulfillment of tasks by the ships of the three fleets.

And at the end of last week, Vice-Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, tried to explain to the public the tasks assigned to the joint inter-fleet group of Russian warships and auxiliary vessels in the Mediterranean. Great revelations of the commander in chief at a press conference did not happen. But the admiral’s comments nevertheless led to the conclusion that the naval group of Russia being created off the Middle East coast was directly related to the tragic events in Syria.

Dessert led to readiness

“The ships that are in the Mediterranean today fulfill the tasks of planned combat training,” explained Viktor Chirkov. - All these events were planned last year, since we are planning a year ahead. This is not a quick decision making. We prepared ships and personnel for this campaign in advance. The group will carry out combat missions in the Mediterranean Sea in accordance with the plan of combat service and combat training. ”

That is, the commander-in-chief made it clear that we are talking about the daily activities of the fleet forces, the most usual combat training activities. At the same time, he noted that they would not be carried out anywhere, but in close proximity to the region where the conflict situation is becoming more acute. Well, Victor Chirkov confirmed the presence on the amphibious ships of the Marine Corps in full strength and with standard armament.

In this regard, it is necessary to note the presence of five landing ships in the inter-fleet grouping at once. This fact can not be called ordinary. Now it is even difficult to remember when such a significant naval landing of Russia appeared in this region. Let only one of the ships belongs to the classic large amphibious. This is “Nikolay Filchenkov”, having a capacity of up to 1700 tons of cargo, taking on board up to 300 paratroopers and 20 armored vehicles. The remaining four were once built as medium landing ships and only relatively recently became considered BDK. Each of them has a capacity of up to 500 tons of cargo, carries up to 225 paratroopers and 13 armored vehicles. Of course, all of the above ships have been in operation for more than 30 years, have high wear and are unlikely to be able to "carry" loads along the highest level of design capabilities. Nevertheless, let's calculate what contingent of marines they can collectively concentrate on the maximum off the coast of Syria. 1200 paratroopers and 72 armored vehicles units are coming out. And if you even make an amendment to the old age of ships, reduce the numbers, say, by 20%, you will still get about 1000 paratroopers and a little less than 60 armored vehicles. Anyway, a serious military formation ... Why is it needed there?

On this occasion, Vice-Admiral Chirkov also explained: “The logistics center of the Russian Navy is located in the Syrian port of Tartus. It is designed to provide ships that perform tasks in the Mediterranean Sea and the Gulf of Aden, allows you to timely replenish stocks of fuel and lubricants, food and water. It is very convenient for us. Because the state has the opportunity to spend less money, it is not necessary to send ships from Russia to replenish supplies or buy all this abroad at unprofitable prices. ” According to the commander in chief, Russia will try to keep the logistics and technical support center in the port of Tartus. True, he noted diplomatically that in the near future the group of warships is not planning to call at this Syrian port.

STRANGE SHIPS

It would seem that all the accents are placed. Although very cautious, with cautions, the purpose of concentration in the problem region of the inter-fleet group and the landing fist of the Russian Navy was indicated. So that was something to insure and ensure the safety of the logistics center in the port of Tartus. And nothing more.

This completely understandable position of the commander-in-chief of the fleet allowed other officials of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to demonstrate an adequate response to Russian interests to events in Syria. True, military leaders preferred to make tough statements all the same anonymously. Just the day after the press conference of Vice-Admiral Chirkov, the Interfax-AVN Agency released a statement from an unnamed representative of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces.

“If the Syrian armed opposition decides to realize its threats against a possible attack on the PMTO, the Russian Navy now has all the opportunities in the region to respond adequately,” the agency’s source said. “We would not advise“ hot heads ”from the Syrian opposition to do this.”

This warning was issued in response to an attack on the same day by one of the leaders of the Syrian Free Army (FSA), leading the armed struggle against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. The oppositionist threatened to strike at the MTO in Tartus. He was made clear to what could such a rash step lead to.

And what a surprise it was after that to hear last week-end new explanations of the commander-in-chief of the Navy about the prospects for the security post. “If an attack occurs, we will be forced to evacuate the personnel available there,” the admiral said on the radio station Ekho Moskvy. - I do not give commands, there is the Minister of Defense. The fact that we will be forced to evacuate the personnel who are there is, of course, we will take him from there. ” At the same time, Chirkov clarified that in order to carry out such actions, an appropriate decision should be made by the Supreme Commander and the political leadership of the Russian Federation. In other words, the highest authority must decide how exactly to react in the event of an attack on the MTO point of irreconcilable opponents of the regime, which in fact provided an opportunity for the Russian Navy to use a piece of Syrian territory. And, to all appearances, there is still no such a solution - up above - there is still no such solution. And the obvious supreme reflection inevitably turns into contradictory actions of the executive military.

Without any preliminary announcements, the large landing ships "Caesar Kunikov" and "Nikolay Filchenkov", the sentry guard "Sharp-witted" returned to their native Sevastopol on the Day of the Russian Navy. On the official website of the Defense Ministry it was reported that the detachment of the warships of the Black Sea Fleet fulfilled the whole range of tasks of interaction with the ships of the Northern and Baltic fleets in the operational zone of the Mediterranean Sea (we recall, it was said about its southeast area). At the same time, the message of the MoD information management stated that the grouping of ships and vessels of the Northern and Baltic fleets began to fulfill the tasks of a long voyage to ... the central part of the Mediterranean Sea. And then - on the fulfillment of the missions of the large anti-submarine ship "Vice-Admiral Kulakov" (SF), tanker "Ivan Bubnov" and tugboat "MB-304" (BSF), again in ... the south-eastern part of the same Mediterranean Sea. Moreover, it was emphasized that “upon arrival in the zone of radio-technical and visual visibility of the inter-fleet grouping they will begin to perform general combat training tasks according to the plan of unified command”.

So where do they eventually concentrate? And for what? It is somehow difficult to imagine that ships from somewhere near Malta are visually visible from the area near the territorial waters of Syria or Lebanon. What and to whom Russia wants to prove these sudden transfers of warships from the ports of origin in the Mediterranean and back? Indeed, almost simultaneously with the announcement of the return of several ships to Sevastopol, “cautious” information appeared about replacing them with other ships that received a long hike command through the Gibraltar and Bosphorus bases in the SF, BF and BSF bases.

HARD LOGIC

In this situation, even the envy of the position of the United States and NATO member countries on the Syrian issue is even envy. Yes, their impudence is no limit. Yes, shamelessly using double standards. Yes, many of their demands are immoral in their essence. But, you see, in the hardness, consistency of the position, in its sophisticated internal logic, the countries of the West will not refuse.

Let us remember ... The powerful 18 explosion of July in Damascus led to the death of Syrian Defense Minister General Daoud Rajhi and a number of other high-ranking Syrian security officials. How did the ruling circles of the United States rate this attack? “We condemn all terrorist acts, all the explosions of objects, of civilians. Nonetheless, the Ministry of Defense’s top officials from the military and security services were the target of the explosion, US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said publicly. “Without justifying such tactics, since we do not justify violence in any of its forms and condemn the bombing, I would like to note that they (the victims. - OV) were not civilians. The dead were the organizers of the Assad military campaign. ” In response to the question of whether the dead could be considered "legitimate targets of a terrorist act," Nuland did not give a direct answer, but noted that "it is also wrong to put them innocent victims." Once again, she completely laid all the responsibility for the violence in Syria on the current authorities of the country and President Assad.

Undoubtedly, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sergei Lavrov, is right in calling the US position on the terrorist act "creepy." He commented on the statement by the US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, who said that the attack in Damascus is another confirmation of the need to adopt a tough UN Security Council resolution on Syria: “In other words, in Russian, this means: we will continue to support such terrorist acts until The Security Council will not do what we want. This is generally a terrible position. ”

But just such a horror, such a policy of double standards makes it absolutely logical for all other steps of the Americans in support of the vigorous actions of the Syrian armed opposition against the authorities. For example, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton calmly builds the further strategy of Washington in the Middle East: “We must work closely with the opposition, as it captures all large territories, in the end they will become reliable refuges in Syria that can be used for further operations of the opposition” .

Naturally, such passages are perceived by the anti-Assad opposition very concretely and evoke in her ... "logical" desires. Malik Kurdi, a representative of the Free Syrian Army, states: “We cannot say that the SSA fully controls something, but we cannot say that the regime’s army also completely controls something, and this will continue until the SSA receives heavy weapons.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov gave a correct assessment of Western policy, generating unhealthy expectations for the Syrian opposition: “Unfortunately, our Western partners ... with several countries neighboring Syria encourage, support and direct the armed struggle against the regime. The price of this whole thing is even more blood. ” However, it must be noted that the confusion of Russian actions and plans around whether it is possible to defend the logistics point in Tartus, or whether the inevitable evacuation of personnel from there does not seem to cause anyone in Syria at all. And the sly opposition to the opposition that the inter-fleet grouping of the Russian Navy has concentrated in the Mediterranean only "for conducting exercises under a single command," is regularly prompted to turn in the opposite direction the accusations sounded from Moscow.

According to Burkhan Galyun, a member of the executive committee of the Syrian National Council, the former head of this organization, the maneuvers of the Russian Navy ships off the coast of Syria may contribute to continuing violence by the government of Bashar al-Assad against civilians. It is easy to assert this without seeing firmness and decisiveness in Russia's actions to protect its interests in the region. After all, their allies in the West, the Syrian opposition leader observes a much more rigid and consistent position. And he is well from the fact that she does not like Russian so much.
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  1. Ataturk
    +35
    5 August 2012 09: 21
    The West, due to its ambitions, deprives people of a normal life. I really hope that the Russian presence will stop hotheads. Everyone has the right to life. The money spent on the war would be better for the poor.
    1. pribolt
      +24
      5 August 2012 09: 31
      Quote: Ataturk
      The money spent on the war would be better for the poor.


      As for this, I agree with you 100% that the USA always surprised me with its multi-million military budget, having homeless people in the USA.
      1. Winter
        +45
        5 August 2012 09: 49
        Why Russian ships are in the Mediterranean Sea is clear to everyone except the author! I would like to criticize, bite, rebellion ... Look for contradictions, slurred positions ... The stupid approach of a stupid journalist. I would describe Dima Bilan!
        1. bachast
          +1
          5 August 2012 09: 51
          During the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, NATO ships were also present in the Black Sea, for what? Everyone understands, right?
          1. Winter
            +23
            5 August 2012 10: 15
            Quote: bachast

            During the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, NATO ships were also present in the Black Sea, for what? Everyone understands, right?

            Are you asking me this or the author? I understand everything, but the author is always up to the lamp, he lives on his ideas about reality.
          2. +10
            5 August 2012 13: 05
            Quote: bachast
            During the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, NATO ships were also present in the Black Sea, for what? Everyone understands, right?

            It’s easier to name the place where they were not present, look at the globe, it is red from the blood where they visited.
          3. +7
            5 August 2012 15: 07
            As long as I remember:
            1) They came after active hostilities;
            2) As stated ...... they brought humanitarian aid ..... there is water, diapers .... smile
          4. +2
            6 August 2012 03: 21
            NATO ships escaped from there as soon as the Russian fleet entered, everyone knows why?
        2. +2
          5 August 2012 10: 14
          Quote: Winter
          Why Russian ships are in the Mediterranean

          Only there is no legend for this + what will they do if NATO arrives with the amers and starts playing war games?
          1. teradimich
            0
            14 August 2012 16: 36
            "war" between the United States and Russia will end for them in the same way as for the rest of the world - complete destruction. YAO!
        3. PatriotizTAT
          +3
          5 August 2012 10: 41
          Well, can you tell me ?! The news is contradictory every day ... then they will protect Tartus, then no!
          1. bremest
            +4
            5 August 2012 13: 35
            HERE IS TRUTH HIDDEN- And how surprising it was after that to hear last weekend new explanations of the Navy Commander-in-Chief regarding the prospects of a security point. “If an attack occurs, we will be forced to evacuate the personnel there,” said the admiral on the air of Ekho Moskvy radio station.
            OURS LEAD A THIN GAME AND TRY TO provoke an attack in order to have a legitimate reason for entering the troops.
            1. wall
              0
              5 August 2012 14: 24
              And you, I see, a connoisseur of subtle games. You know what's what.
            2. +6
              5 August 2012 16: 02
              There are not so many personnel in Tartus that so many ships would come to evacuate it!
            3. cool.cube2012
              0
              9 August 2012 21: 56
              bremest OUR LEADS A THIN GAME Something I doubt very much that our government and the Ministry of Defense under the control of Serdyukov with his girls can play a delicate game. You must be a blind man to continue to idolize this corrupt power.
          2. Bashkaus
            +5
            5 August 2012 20: 57
            And what is there to be surprised at? It is necessary to clearly understand that there are very large stakes at stake and the game of "believe-disbelieve" is going on. Task -1 disorient a potential opponent, outplay, convince him that you will take a step to the left, and turn right yourself. The position may indeed be not entirely clear, but this is not our headache with you, we know one thing for sure: they will not surrender Syria! Then it remains only to trust the special services and Vovchik that they will be able to outplay the chickens from the Pentagon. Let them rack their brains over why we are driving the large landing craft loaded to capacity? We need to worry about when to pick the right moment and land the airborne forces over the capitol)))
        4. FiremanRS
          +25
          5 August 2012 10: 56
          Lady, it may happen that it is not clear to the command why our ships hang out there)))) If these are naval exercises, then why the BDK? If this is to protect the base, then why hang out and not stand in the base port? I think until the politicians decide, sunbathing our seaman for a long time.))) The rebels understand that an attack on the base is the end of the uprising - the marines will simply tear everyone to the Turkish border. The death of support personnel will only untie Moscow’s hands. And Moscow, in order not to delay the matter, keeps the ships at hand. Now imagine what resonance in the NATO prisoners and talking instructors of the rebels will raise))))
          1. Atia
            +20
            5 August 2012 11: 11
            Quote: FiremanRS
            The death of support personnel will only untie Moscow’s hands. And Moscow, in order not to delay the matter, keeps the ships at hand

            Well, here you have formulated the goals and objectives of our fleet! hi
            1. FiremanRS
              +10
              5 August 2012 11: 47
              If he formulated, it was only hitting a finger in the sky. )))) This is just my appearance of a situation that does not claim to be the ultimate truth. What is there, in fact, only the GDP and the Generality know. Hope they know .... winked
              1. +5
                5 August 2012 12: 55
                I really hope that within the framework of the exercises, large letters UN have already been drawn on the sides of the armored personnel carriers and let the "peaceful rebels" just try to shoot them.
                1. REPA1963
                  -6
                  5 August 2012 20: 57
                  What armored personnel carriers, what nonsense are you talking about !!! Vova’s gut is thin for a serious answer.
                  1. Bashkaus
                    +12
                    5 August 2012 21: 00
                    One small, but very proud Misha also thought so, then chewed his ties
          2. +14
            5 August 2012 13: 53
            what resonance in NATO will raise prisoners and talking rebel instructors

            The Marines do not take prisoners; this is already known from the defense of Sevastopol (1941-1942).
            1. Jib
              Jib
              0
              5 August 2012 21: 21
              100%. Be good !!!!
        5. +9
          5 August 2012 11: 01
          Lady! That's one hundred percent agree with you !!
        6. Isr
          Isr
          -3
          5 August 2012 20: 30
          The author showed that "Why Russian ships are in the Mediterranean" is not clear to everyone. The author raised a very correct question. Most likely, there will be an operation to evacuate the base and people (or rather, what is left of the base), but there are listening and intelligence stations that deal with Israel and Turkey, they also need to be removed and the equipment there is not simple.
          Interesting article: Assad's fall will liberate Lebanon
          An article by the famous Iranian journalist Amir Taheri was published under this heading ... As an example, he cites the speech of the country's President Michel Suleiman on the day of the Lebanese army. Suleiman debunked the three main principles on which the legitimacy of the Lebanese state in the state of Hezbollah rests. The first principle is the postulate that Hezbollah maintains a standing unofficial army "to resist Israeli aggression." Suleiman said: "The protection of the nation and its sovereignty by force of arms is the exclusive prerogative of the national army." Hezbollah also claims to be a member of the Resistance Front, which, in addition to it, includes Iran and Syria. This means "endless war against the United States and Israel." Suleiman said: "We will not let us be confused by the problems that others have created." The third pillar of Hezbollah's "legitimacy" is the fact that the Beqaa Valley and parts of Beirut have become zones in which Lebanese law does not apply. Suleiman said that he was not ready to cede an inch of Lebanese land to anyone. He said: "The state will never accept the fact that the army will leave any part of the national territory. No mini-states or national-religious enclaves have the right to exist." Suleiman also spoke out against Hezbollah's “weapons.” He said, “We oppose the chaotic proliferation of weapons and the use of weapons outside the borders of the national army.”
          The Lebanese president called the "Arab Spring" that is finishing off Assad in Syria "a historic campaign for freedom, pluralism and justice." All these statements by Suleiman were unimaginable a month ago. They are a clear sign that Lebanon is ready to free itself from thirty years of serfdom on Syria, Iran and Hezbollah.
          1. Insurgent
            +7
            5 August 2012 21: 55
            And what about violations by Israeli aviation of Lebanese airspace, it is still unknown what the fall of Asad will end for Israel most likely al-Qaeda armed to the teeth will settle there and do sabotage against Israel, then Jordan will fall and it’s a matter of time and Israel will be isolated
            1. Isr
              Isr
              -2
              5 August 2012 23: 23
              There are no violations. Hezbollah previously fired rockets at hail, Israeli territory, and attacked and abducted citizens and soldiers. They hide their command posts, missile launchers, weapons depots under houses, kindergartens and schools. We need information about where and what is hidden, what weapons are being transported and where. Therefore, reconnaissance flights will continue until the Lebanese army takes control of the border. Neither in the first Lebanon nor in the second Lebanon war did we touch the Lebanese army and they did not touch us. As soon as the Lebanese want to end the conflict and sign a peace agreement with us, this will be done immediately. We have no claims to them, but they have to us, and if there is, then everything can be solved. Examples are available - Egypt and Jordan. The fall of Assad is not welcomed by us, which I have already written about many times. We had the quietest Syrian border. The fact that we "find ourselves in isolation" is no stranger to us, we are always in isolation, have been, are and will be. We survived before and we will survive now. Thanks for work. Better have pity on the Lebanese, they have another country in their country that does not care about Lebanon - Hezballostan, which does what they need or the Iranians. It's like a cancer, it is eating away at the country.
              1. s1н7т
                +4
                5 August 2012 23: 57
                Are you from the Israeli Foreign Ministry broadcasting, or what? Or personally on my own all this ... nude carry?
                1. Isr
                  Isr
                  0
                  7 August 2012 22: 21
                  Listen, be a little more curious, don't limit yourself to the "... nude" that your childhood education and Soviet / Russian television give you. Try to find out more about the subject you are judging about. And one more thing - treat your opponents with respect.
              2. 0
                5 August 2012 23: 59
                Why are they shelling Israel? So for the sake of sports interest, or is there any reason? It is necessary to treat not the effect, but the cause of the disease. Violence can never be defeated by violence, the ancients established this postulate, and it is valid in our time.
                1. Isr
                  Isr
                  0
                  7 August 2012 22: 25
                  What shall we do? Do you have a smart plan? We are ready and will be happy to hear any idea.
                  ps Do not offer to shoot yourself.
                  ps By the way, the ancients did not encounter Islam, and where they encountered, they were gone.
              3. Che
                Che
                0
                8 August 2012 09: 45
                Isr,
                There is Palestine in Israel, what do you say? The Levitics destroyed the Jews. They are gone now.
                1. Isr
                  Isr
                  0
                  9 August 2012 18: 17
                  I didn’t understand anything, Palestine, Israel, the Jews, the Levites, all in one heap. All Jews know who they are, which of them is Cohen, who is Levite, and who is simply Israel. For example, I am Israel, but in our family there is a stencil, so it is cohen. It’s not clear who killed whom.
        7. +2
          5 August 2012 22: 10
          Quote: Winter
          Why Russian ships are in the Mediterranean Sea is clear to everyone except the author! I would like to criticize, bite, rebellion ... Look for contradictions, slurred positions ... The stupid approach of a stupid journalist. I would describe Dima Bilan!

          I completely agree! The article simply shows through malice.
          Moreover, the author of what from decided that if he does not understand something, then Russia has no plan of action at all fool

          "It is easy to assert such a thing, not seeing the firmness, decisiveness in Russia's actions to protect its interests in the region. After all, the Syrian oppositionist observes a much tougher and more consistent position among his allies in the West. And he feels good that the Russians do not like her so much." ---- but these words make you wonder if the author has been in the mind for the last year.
        8. +11
          5 August 2012 22: 47
          Quote: Winter
          Why Russian ships are in the Mediterranean Sea is clear to everyone except the author! I would like to criticize, bite, rebellion ... Look for contradictions, slurred positions ... The stupid approach of a stupid journalist. I would describe Dima Bilan!


          A detachment of warships and subunits of the Black Sea Fleet Marine Corps and Special Forces are practicing combat coordination tasks in preparation for the large-scale Cascade-2012 exercises scheduled for September. The rest of stupid journalists should not worry ..
          Well, the presence of the Navy's fleet makes it impossible to establish a no-fly zone over Syria.
          1. Facturin
            +5
            5 August 2012 23: 23
            Quote: Ascetic
            The rest of stupid journalists should not worry

            This is some kind of clinic, not journalists! fool
            1. +1
              6 August 2012 00: 02
              Well, the Clinic says loudly - an ordinary room with soft walls and checkered windows.
          2. 0
            6 August 2012 12: 02
            Support!
            By the way, since when should the maneuvers of the armed forces be explained to the media without fail? Can the "competent" journals already transfer the command of the fleet? They will drive laughing
      2. Ataturk
        +32
        5 August 2012 09: 53
        Quote: pribolt
        US with its multi-million dollar military budget

        My friend there is far from millions, but billions. 662,000,000,000 bucks US military budget. The military budget of NATO is 849 bucks + 875 and every year they spend on the military 309 bucks. And now, add China 000 to it and plus 662 Russia and that somewhere around 000 ANNUALLY. Yes, damn this money you can feed the whole world.

        How much can you fight, save money. This Rotfeller or Rothschild and all the oligarchs to ask you that in the coffin you take away money, power, armchair, land?

        With this money, it would be possible to open new jobs, develop medicine and new technologies. They would be engaged in the purification of mother nature, she would still show Kuzkin's mother to everyone. Although 1 year without war 1 year, military budgets for the benefit of the land would be spent.

        So that they choke on oil.

        Afghans sell drugs to survive. They would be given money to buy cattle, agriculture raised. But no. Once again I understand that the heads of state are the real criminals.

        1. Winter
          +25
          5 August 2012 10: 17
          Quote: Ataturk
          and this money could open up new jobs, develop medicine and new technologies.

          And they need it ??? No, positively you are an incorrigible optimist! wink
          1. Ataturk
            +12
            5 August 2012 10: 24
            Quote: Winter
            you are an incorrigible optimist!

            Hope dies last. What to do.
        2. Nikopol
          +3
          5 August 2012 18: 24
          Man by nature always wants more than he has. So, dreams that there will be no armies, and all the rich (or most) will distribute their money to the poor - they will remain dreams. And yet - who is stopping the same Afghans from creating drugs for legal money? The answer is simple - heroin is not potato with cotton, it is ten times more expensive ... and it is grown.
        3. +5
          5 August 2012 19: 55
          Quote: Ataturk
          My friend there is far from millions, but billions. 662,000,000,000 bucks US military budget.

          If this money is used for 1 year for other purposes, then the United States will immediately cease to exist, since tens of millions of people, if not more, will be left without work. The United States is now gripping itself with its military budget in such a vice that you cannot envy them. The countdown for the United States has long been launched, i.e. since 1991 (the collapse of the USSR) and now we are witnessing the agony of this country. And "bzdyk" will be loud and inevitable. Everyone knows about this and is just playing for time and working out alternative relationships. The one who prepares the most for this will suffer the least.
          1. recitatorus
            +12
            5 August 2012 20: 08
            Quote: alexneg
            Whoever prepares more for this will suffer the least

            Winter comes unexpectedly here every year, and here the whole bzdyk of America !!! request
            1. Bashkaus
              +2
              5 August 2012 22: 32
              Checked out your humor, neighing for a long time)) you are my plus, even to act, there’s not immediately a hundred, it's worth it!
            2. +2
              5 August 2012 23: 26
              No one will survive money from anyone, but one who has everything else.
        4. Insurgent
          +1
          5 August 2012 21: 56
          they print money; it’s money that is not secured by anything; neither the euro nor the dollar
          1. Ataturk
            +1
            5 August 2012 22: 28
            Quote: Insurgent
            they print money; it’s money that is not secured by anything; neither the euro nor the dollar

            This will not stop them from helping the REAL POOR.
        5. +7
          6 August 2012 01: 16
          Quote: Ataturk
          Afghans sell drugs to survive. They would be given money to buy cattle, agriculture raised. But no. Once again I understand that the heads of state are the real criminals.


          Rather, parasitic worms suck the last juices from the peoples of the Earth (and not only among peoples but
          and disgrace the very Earth our common home). Involuntarily you will believe in the Antichrist Apocalypse and the Last Judgment.
        6. Shulz-1955
          0
          6 August 2012 04: 03
          It’s clear that you are for peace and friendship between peoples, this is not bad, but about Afghanistan you got excited, they saw your agriculture in a coffin, it is compensated with drugs
      3. +7
        5 August 2012 16: 03

        pribolt About this, I agree with you on everything 100% The USA always surprised me with its multi-million military budget, having homeless people in the USA

        Hello, Dmitry!

        Unfortunately in this, we are now not much different from them!
        We can boast about humanitarian aid for millions, billions of dollars in contracts for the military-industrial complex, in the first places for the export of hydrocarbons, raise salaries for officials, and so on. And when they apply for increased funding for health care, on websites, on the streets, through the media, people ask for SOAP for a child’s operation, which our health care refuses to perform, saying that the operations are very expensive or possible only abroad. And we praise them, for the holidays awards, increase salaries - but for what ?!

        I read in one of the newspapers in the Far East, while the World raised money - the child died. Parents opened a fund with this money and said that if they knew that in Russia all the leaders did not give a damn about the children's health, then they would immediately go outside to ask and the child would survive.
        1. pribolt
          0
          6 August 2012 05: 47
          Hello Alex! There is nothing to add. That is how it is. The only thing that we are now building up to achieve parity with them is that the appetites of the USA are growing
    2. +9
      5 August 2012 09: 48
      Quote: Ataturk
      it would be better if the poor would be helped.

      good morning dear Omar, how do you do anything? At the expense of the poor, they won’t give a cent that everything is in the budget for social programs. The mentality of the capitalists is that it’s better to throw it out, destroy it, but not let the poor. I came across this here, in factories where he worked. the last example: coolers were changed at our factory, I asked for one to be thrown away anyway, and the new one costs $ 600, he looked at me at the start of production as a ram at a new gate, he didn’t understand how to give it, they broke it in the trash .
      1. Ataturk
        +12
        5 August 2012 10: 06
        Quote: igor67
        good morning dear lobster, how is your nothing?

        Good morning Igor! Thanks, all is well. I hope you are doing well!
        Quote: igor67
        The mentality of the capitalists is that it is better to throw it out, to destroy it, but not to give it to the poor.

        I know you are not a Muslim Igor, but believe me, God is one and one with us. And this is what God says. Please read these lines and speak out. I believe that you can’t say more correctly! That's why he is God.

        O son of Adam! I am amazed at the person who is convinced that there will be a report, but is collecting wealth

        I am amazed at the person who is convinced of the onset of the Day of Judgment, but he is carefree

        I am surprised at the person who is preoccupied with the shortcomings of other people and is inattentive to the shortcomings of his soul

        Whoever began to grieve over worldly troubles, he seems to be angry with Me, who complains of misfortune, who, as it were, complains of Me, who went to a wealthy man and humbled himself before him because of his wealth, he lost two-thirds of his faith.

        He who does not pay attention to the way in which he obtains means of subsistence [forbidden or permitted], does not pay attention to the gate through which God will bring him to Hell. He who does not increase good deeds according to his religion will remain at a loss, and he who admits such a thing will die for good.

        O son of Adam! You work in this world, as if you will not die tomorrow, and collect wealth, as if you will live forever.

        O son of Adam! There is not a single day that I do not determine your destiny, and there is not a single night that the angels do not tell me your bad deeds. You feed on My means of subsistence and do not obey Me. You cry to Me, and I answer you. My good descends to you, and your evil reaches me. How good is your Guardian, and how bad is my slave. You steal what I give you, and I cover your misconduct one by one. I am ashamed of you, but you are not ashamed of Me. You forget about Me and remember others. You are afraid of people, but not afraid of Me, you are afraid of their hatred and not afraid of My Wrath. ”
        1. +15
          5 August 2012 10: 18
          Quote: Ataturk
          I am amazed at the person who is convinced of the onset of the Day of Judgment, but he is carefree

          I agree with you my friend one hundred percent, I try to comment, but I can’t find the words; I can’t say any better than what is written in the holy scriptures.
          1. Ataturk
            +12
            5 August 2012 10: 25
            Quote: igor67
            I agree with you my friend one hundred percent, I try to comment, but I can’t find the words; I can’t say any better than what is written in the holy scriptures.

            Thanks you. Seeing such posts, I understand that real people still live in the world. Nicely. It can be seen that your parents did a good job of educating such a brilliant person. May God give them health if they are alive and if not, their kingdom of heaven.

            Yes, the words of the holy books cannot be written better. They are the best we need to know!
            1. Atia
              +22
              5 August 2012 11: 13
              Ataturk,
              Somewhere else it is said - no matter how high you fly, I will cast you down from there!
              Only obscurantists do not want to understand this! Or nothing. negative
        2. bremest
          +3
          5 August 2012 13: 05
          I noticed that the angels essentially play the role of scammers ......))

          As for the Day of Judgment, there is every reason to believe in its coming because Khamenei spoke about this recently in his message to the Iranians. He urged the flock to wait for the arrival of the 12th, "hidden" Imam Mahdi. According to the beliefs of the Shiites-Twelver, he must come during the Last Judgment to save the world and establish an Islamic world order.
        3. +1
          6 August 2012 12: 29
          Dear Ataturk!

          As it is not very much to believe in the kindness and humanity of Islam, looking at the drugged fanatics who commit abominations with cries of "Allahu Akbar!" But, after reading your post, you understand that true Islam is very different from Wahhabi sectarianism. God is really one, and, in fact, there is not much difference whether you go to commune with God in a church or a mosque. As well as there is no fundamental difference between Orthodox, Catholics, Sunnis or Shiites. The main thing is Faith, or it is, or it is not. By and large, what difference does a church bell remind you of God, or the cry of a muezzin from a minaret? I'm not an expert on religions, but after reading your post I understand that Christians and Muslims have nothing to share. Both religions call people to goodness and justice. Well, those who are now smashing churches in Syria ... Maybe someday it will come to them what scum they are and if you do at least a hundred hajj to Mecca, it will not wash away the dirt. God is one!
      2. 101
        101
        +2
        5 August 2012 17: 33
        How to make a person work and obey if he has everything? For this simple reason, people will always live on the brink of poverty. There will be a big salary means big taxes or expensive housing and communal services insurance, etc. What is there to understand, someone has to work and someone to lead
    3. GHG
      GHG
      +10
      5 August 2012 11: 30
      Quote: Ataturk
      The West, due to its ambitions, deprives people of a normal life.

      In my opinion, only the USA has ambitions, it seems like they consider themselves a superpower. Well, they also have a part of the Arabian peninsula, maybe Turkey. For ordinary people, this Syria is up to the fifth point, with acute hemorrhoids. The average man in the street is only outraged by his tax money, some kind of war is pretty hopeless, expensive, besides bringing chaos and all kinds of sacrifices. No further murmuring and family conversations, God forbid they will find out at work, they’ll fire, but what about loans? Home, family? Here he is an average Westerner, a disenfranchised worker, consider a serf (laborer). Let them enjoy their dermocratic freedom.
    4. Lesorub
      +4
      5 August 2012 22: 05
      Forced to fundamentally disagree .... Help the poor with money - that extinguish a fire with gasoline. From this they will become even more! The higher the social protection, the more loafers are sitting on the neck of one working in developed countries! The military budget of developed countries not only spreads death and destruction on the planet, but also develops scientific and technological progress, which ultimately makes life better for all people. Examples are well known ....
      1. Ataturk
        +4
        5 August 2012 22: 33
        Quote: Lesorub
        Forced to fundamentally disagree .... Help the poor with money - that extinguish a fire with gasoline


        Dear, to be more precise, the Afghans have no land.
        They rent land from the rich - FOR MONEY.
        They are poppy seeds - buy FOR MONEY
        If they are helped with cattle, then they need land for pasture - THIS IS MONEY.
        If they need cattle, then they also buy it for MONEY.
        If they want to go in for farming, then fertilizer and everything connected with it is also for MONEY.

        So you can give money and track where it is spent.
        1. Facturin
          +6
          5 August 2012 23: 28
          Ataturk,
          This is called giving a fishing rod, and not feeding fish for nothing! Yes
        2. Lesorub
          0
          8 August 2012 22: 32
          in this context - I agree with you .... Poverty alleviation programs must be funded! BUT Americans are FAVORABLE to develop their OWN military industry, which is on the cutting edge of world scientific and technological progress and makes tangible positive changes in the life of the country.
  2. coast
    +2
    5 August 2012 09: 21
    yes everything is clear there, guys went to sunbathe
    1. pribolt
      +5
      5 August 2012 09: 34
      Quote: bereg

      yes everything is clear there, guys went to sunbathe


      Mediterranean Cruise laughing
      1. pribolt
        0
        5 August 2012 19: 07
        Where did Oleg and Alexei go with the Results
        1. 0
          5 August 2012 21: 02
          Quote: pribolt
          Where did Oleg and Alexei go with the Results

          They are on vacation. Then their announcement hangs on the right.
  3. pribolt
    +15
    5 August 2012 09: 26
    I do not know what the author did not understand here; in my opinion, everything is clear. The opposition has now definitely tucked into pants, 1200 marines is not some kind of free Syrian army.
    1. Winter
      +23
      5 August 2012 09: 51
      Quote: pribolt
      I don’t know what the author didn’t understand here, in my opinion everything is clear

      And at least count on him! All the same, it’s not clear! The habit of leveling your army with manure has already become second nature.
  4. Press
    +3
    5 August 2012 09: 28
    We must act tough. We have ya and we are a country of warriors - winners! We cannot be defeated by cruise missiles. Let's go to hell with any fascists. Why then be afraid?
  5. +9
    5 August 2012 09: 34
    Maybe they don’t want to make a difference, but they could answer their own citizens of their own country. One gets the impression that at first they say, and then they think that they said the wrong thing and begin to refute it. The position and explanations of them in the media should be clear and rigid. Who we are afraid of and embarrassed is not clear. The image of the world community in the person of the United States and NATO, one FIG will turn everything upside down and set out a favorable position in the media, regardless of the voices of our military and politicians.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +4
      5 August 2012 11: 17
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The position and explanations of them in the media should be clear and rigid. Who we are afraid of and embarrassed is not clear. The image of the world community in the person of the United States and NATO, one FIG will turn everything upside down and set out a favorable position in the media, regardless of the voices of our military and politicians.


      Sasha, welcome, +!

      Here's more news on this topic ...... fresh ....

      On August 4 this year, as part of the joint inter-naval grouping of the Russian Navy, which currently includes a group of warships (OBK) of the Northern Fleet (SF): the large landing ships Alexander Otrakovsky, George Pobedonosets, Kondopoga, and detachment of warships of the Baltic Fleet: patrol ships Yaroslav the Wise and Undaunted, a detachment of ships led by the large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet, Vice Admiral Kulakov (pictured).



      Currently, the large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet, Vice Admiral Kulakov, the tanker of the Black Sea Fleet, Ivan Bubnov, and the tugboat of the Black Sea Fleet, MB-304, are located in the designated waiting area in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.

      The inter-naval grouping of warships of the Russian Navy will continue to carry out tasks in the Mediterranean Sea according to the plan of a single command. After the inclusion of the large Vice-Admiral Kulakov anti-submarine ship and two support vessels in the grouping, the state of the group’s water, food and fuel reserves will be calculated.

      Given the possible entry of the group into the Black Sea and the corresponding extension of the long hike, the command will plan replenishment of ships at sea from support vessels, or using the same support vessels, but not warships, at the expense of the resource of the Russian logistics point Tartus (Syria)
      1. +2
        5 August 2012 11: 39
        Hi Sergey, it’s clear that it’s not clear who, Kula, why. It seems clear that we are there for a reason. In America, too, are not idiots and they understand everything perfectly, but when you listen to the leadership of our Navy !!!!!!!!!!!!! It creates the impression that no one around does not understand. I won’t be surprised if tomorrow on the site there will be a refutation of that information which you posted laughing From this insanity I already have a head spinning. There is no intelligible policy, we do not support Assad, but we will protect the base belay But how to save the base without protecting Assad? And here on the site in particular, people ask the question, where does the vector of politics lead, if one contradicts the other and what do we want to achieve in general? If we want to prevent aggression in Syria from the United States and NATO, then in my opinion it is necessary to say so, but we are silent, making hints. On the one hand everything seems to be clear, but on the other you look ............. What can I say, the victory will be ours-uh-uh request
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +2
          5 August 2012 12: 12
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If we want to prevent aggression in Syria from the United States and NATO, then in my opinion it is necessary to say so, but we are silent, making hints. On the one hand everything seems to be clear, but on the other you look ............. What can I say, the victory will be ours-uh-uh


          Sasha, I agree, +! But only at what cost ..... this victory will be ours ???

          I also cannot understand these "maneuvers" ... it reminds me ... "I want to sit down and ... stay a girl" (I apologize for the epithet)! lol

          if you are already doing business or preparing for something ... then you need to do ....

          Iran for some reason is preparing .......

          Iran has tested a fourth generation short-range ballistic missile Fateh-110 ("Conqueror", pictured) with an updated guidance system, Reuters reported.
          According to Iranian Defense Minister Ahmed Wahidi, tests have proven the ability of a new missile to hit targets without deviations.

          It is planned that all new missiles manufactured by Iran will be equipped with the same guidance system as on the Fateh-110.



          According to Wahidi, quoted by Sky News, only a few countries in the world have the technology to create such guidance systems. The publication notes that the Pentagon in July 2012 reported significant progress by Iran in the construction of missiles.

          Fateh-110 is a short-range ballistic missile with a radius of destruction of up to 300 kilometers. Fateh-110 missiles of different generations have been in service in Iran since 2002.

          Tehran claims that the missile is intended solely for defensive purposes.
          1. +1
            5 August 2012 12: 26
            Quote: vaf
            For some reason, Iran is preparing.

            Well, Iran is squeezed from everyone and there is nothing more to lose, but our general has something to lose: houses in rubles, mercy with flashing lights, bank accounts. So the price of victory can be very large, and with Makarov and Serdyukov - very large, multiply by ten.
            1. VAF
              VAF
              0
              5 August 2012 12: 47
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              but our general has something to lose — houses in rubles, mercy with flashing lights, bank accounts. So the price of victory can be very large, and with Makarov and Serdyukov, multiply very ten.


              Sasha and there’s nothing to add, +! Only 10 times recourse will not be enough lol as you read the prosecutor’s news or the investigative committee, the numbers there are much larger bully

  6. +9
    5 August 2012 09: 41
    "However, we have to admit that the confusion of Russian actions and plans around either the possible protection of the logistics center in Tartus, or the inevitable evacuation of personnel from there, it seems, does not cause any expectations in Syria at all."
    As the saying goes, "I want to, and inject, and my mother does not order." On the one hand, it's just a shame to constantly bend under the amers, but on the other, it's not enough strength! How not to get embarrassed ...
  7. +14
    5 August 2012 10: 01
    "... a member of the executive committee of the Syrian National Council Burkhan Galyun ..." - the name amused.
    1. Atia
      +15
      5 August 2012 11: 15
      Quote: Vorchun
      ... member of the executive committee of the Syrian National Council Burhan Galyu

      What advice, such a leader! Yes
      1. Facturin
        +5
        5 August 2012 23: 30
        Atia,
        There not far, in Lebanon, Nasral lives in general! And here is Galyun! Maybe relatives. request
  8. +12
    5 August 2012 10: 07
    We must act tough. We have ya and we are a country of warriors - winners! We cannot be defeated by cruise missiles. Let's go to hell with any fascists. Why then be afraid?


    The people are not afraid, they are afraid of power.
  9. pribolt
    +5
    5 August 2012 10: 11
    By the way, the news came out yesterday: THE SYRIAN ARMY TAKED DAMASK UNDER CONTROL http://www.ria.ru/arab_sy/20120804/716504886.html
  10. +9
    5 August 2012 10: 12
    Yesterday I wrote about cat and mouse.
    But on this occasion, I think everything is more or less clear.
    The group has no tasks, just because they are tasked with acting "according to the situation."
    We are in an "active" defense position. The forces and means are concentrated.

    We are waiting for the actions of the opposition and Assad. We show the West that we are not activating the Syrian issue. It is as if we are pushing the opposition towards aggravation, so that later we could tell the world ...... we defended ourselves ..... or defended Russian citizens ...... or ...... defended our PMT.
    But it was they who defended (that is, carried out their actions in response to the actions of the opposition forces) and did not preventively do something there.
  11. Ataturk
    +14
    5 August 2012 10: 21
    Russia must save Syria, otherwise, after the surrender of Syria, the Russian fleet will not have access to the Mediterranean Sea due to the absence of allies or friendly states on the shores of this sea. And the Black Sea will be the place of walk of all opponents of Russia. I remind you that Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey, and Georgia are political opponents of Russia. Ukraine is in a state of not fish, not meat, not fat, but yes there can be a police coup and a switch to the side of NATO at any moment. The sphere of influence of Russia will sharply decrease, which is what the leaders of Russia, the successors of Gorbachev, are actually seeking. (It seems to me so given Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, and so on.) Alas. I really hope that I'm wrong! I hope this is understood in the Kremlin. Since if Syria falls, the Islamists will come there. Guess 3 times where they will move further after Iran and Syria. That is the question.

  12. farelouz
    +6
    5 August 2012 10: 26
    Can the enemy be forgiven? God will forgive! Our task is to arrange their meeting! Al capone
  13. Abramovich
    -13
    5 August 2012 10: 38
    Yes, everything is simple there. According to the plan, hungry Russian sailors should land on the shore and eat all the fish, thus cutting off the food supply lines for the militants. They sailed for this, the sprats ended in the Baltic and the ice in the North, so they are swimming near Malta while there are jambs of mullet! fellow

    And the loving Chinese group must go ashore and impregnate everyone they can, then hold out for 18 years and 9 months, until the next recruitment into the "victorious" Syrian army!

    Just keep an eye on the Iranians, you never know what the Persians have in mind, they suddenly sail away somewhere to the Dardanelles, build a sea bridge to Greece, capture Athens and Sparta, avenge Xerxes. lol

    PS In the photo - Dark-skinned Syrian girls, admire the pink Soviet police
    1. pribolt
      +14
      5 August 2012 10: 47
      I won’t even put a minus, Abramovich is probably here except you other clowns
      1. +3
        5 August 2012 18: 28
        Quote: pribolt
        I won’t even put a minus

        Egor zaminusovat all the same!
        There is no hope that his own skull will adorn his epaulettes!
        wink
      2. +1
        5 August 2012 22: 43
        Quote: pribolt
        I won’t even put a minus,

        And I will!
    2. +15
      5 August 2012 10: 51
      Abramovich, you’re just handsome good I’ve even given you a plus, but the fact that sprats have ended in Latvia is really sad news, how can the EU go about it without them now?
      Quote: Abramovich

      A loving Chinese group must go ashore and impregnate all who can

      I will tell you the military mystery, you're right! so everything is planned, but only the plan will be done by the young Moldovan Abramovichs and all those associated with this surname lol
      1. Summer
        +19
        5 August 2012 12: 18
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        only obladotarit according to plan will be the young Abramovich

        And as a result, millions of cross-eyed Abramovichs about twenty meters tall again scatter around the world to look for a place where they are not! fellow
      2. chistii20
        +2
        5 August 2012 14: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I will tell you the military mystery, you're right! so everything is planned, but only the plan will be done by the young Moldovan Abramovichs and all those associated with this surname

        Great answer
    3. +3
      5 August 2012 12: 15
      Abramovich,
      You are not a respectable male person who has problems with the anus.
      Quote: Abramovich
      PS In the photo - Dark-skinned Syrian girls, admire the pink Soviet police

      Where is at least one policeman in the photo?
      1. chistii20
        +2
        5 August 2012 14: 48
        Rebus,
        illiterate man this abramovich with a small letter
    4. +2
      5 August 2012 14: 25
      Here again, I want to express obscenities about your modest analytical mindset, Abramovich. Well, let it be as you described, but
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      according to the plan will be molodenky Abramovich and all those associated with this surname
    5. chistii20
      +2
      5 August 2012 14: 45
      Abramovich,
      I am amazed at your cynicism
      Quote: pribolt

      I won’t even put a minus, Abramovich is probably here except you other clowns

      I will support you
      1. +4
        5 August 2012 14: 52
        And I, perhaps, will raise his rating. It was no good for such a smesharik. lol
    6. Insurgent
      0
      5 August 2012 22: 00
      Well, not fat Israeli police admire him
  14. zzzel
    +8
    5 August 2012 10: 47
    but no one knows what to expect from these Russians, or he’ll lie down to sleep, or if he’ll crash a bottle on the head and how to behave in response? I think it annoys them very much with their unpredictability.
    1. moonblood
      0
      5 August 2012 12: 10
      In fact, on board large landing ships there is a landing of 1200 boxes of Russian vodka for soldering the Muslim contingent of the SSA in order to deprive it of combat effectiveness and send the whole crew to Muslim hell!
  15. Press
    -8
    5 August 2012 10: 49
    Syria, before the death of Assad, out of despair, will use chemical weapons against Europe and Israel, as promised. There would be long-range missiles and fired at the United States. In response, he will receive a nuclear strike. In the Northern Hemisphere, radioactive fallout will fall, many people and animals will die. An episode from the Zionist Golden Billion plan will be played out clearly and effectively. Europe is deserted. In tens of years, Muslims will settle in Europe.
    1. iSpoiler
      0
      5 August 2012 21: 26
      no, there will be no nuclear strike ...
      states to hell with all and sundry, if they take a chance ..
      2 hours after the launch of intercontinental missiles (even if in Syria) in order to inflict a Nuclear Strike - such a mainland as North America simply will not exist .... IMHO
  16. sergskak
    +5
    5 August 2012 10: 54
    “If an attack occurs, we will be forced to evacuate the personnel there,” said the admiral on the air of Ekho Moskvy radio station. - It’s not me who gives the commands, there is the Minister of Defense.
    This indecision of a civilian hamster is already annoying. Why is there a squadron? Just swim like, excuse me ..... about in the hole or already indicate your clear position? E-well, is there our base there, is that not an argument for landing?
    Quote: volkan
    then tell the world ...... we defended ourselves ..... or defended Russian citizens ...... or ...... defended our PMT.
    Yes, no excuses are needed! You must be more determined.
  17. +2
    5 August 2012 11: 04
    Liberating article. Replace a few words - and at least in ehomoskva.
    1. sergskak
      +5
      5 August 2012 11: 16
      tan0472,
      A normal article, if you read, of course, from beginning to end. In what place is it "liberal" explain. There is a statement of facts, not personal thoughts of the author. You just do not like the current situation? So few people like it.
    2. 0
      5 August 2012 18: 30
      Quote: tan0472
      Replace a few words - and even in ehomoskva

      If one way. if in another ...
      In general, a continuous squeak will be with voice acting.
      bully
  18. +1
    5 August 2012 11: 20
    The author of the article is a big minus. He behaves like a strategist who knows most of all. he sees farthest.
  19. -3
    5 August 2012 11: 32
    Opposition: Syrian cosmonaut, Hero of the Soviet Union, opposed Assad

    publication time: 09: 47
    last update: 09: 47



    The Syrian opposition claims that cosmonaut Faris Muhammad Ahmad, the first Syrian citizen to travel to space, has announced that he is entering the camp of the enemies of President Bashar al-Assad, the Kol Israel radio station reported on August 5.

    Oppositionists posted a short video on the You Tube website that captured the astronaut in the company of opposition fighters.

    Faris Ahmad (61) made a space flight on July 22-30, 1987. Together with two Soviet cosmonauts Aleksandr Viktorenko and Aleksandr Aleksandrov on the Soyuz TM-3 spacecraft, he arrived at the Mir orbital station, where he conducted experiments in the field of space medicine and materials science.

    On the day of his return to Earth, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR decided to confer the title of Hero of the Soviet Union on the Syrian cosmonaut with the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal.

    Ahmad was born in Aleppo (Aleppo) and lived for many years in this city. Perhaps his transition to the side of the opposition is associated with fierce battles that unfolded in Aleppo in recent days. Government forces are trying to regain control of the areas captured by the opposition.


    [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_embedded & v = jAEKtby9Ymk
    ]
  20. -1
    5 August 2012 11: 56
    Well, a little swim in the Mediterranean, what's wrong? and the girls in Syria are beautiful, I think after a cruise our marines even landed on some sort of beach in Syria to touch these girls a little; palm trees, dates, arabic vodka
    1. chistii20
      +1
      5 August 2012 14: 53
      Quote: dojjdik

      Well, a little swim in the Mediterranean, what's wrong? and the girls in Syria are beautiful, I think after a cruise our marines even landed on some sort of beach in Syria to touch these girls a little; palm trees, dates, arabic vodka

      You know there is little fun. And the guys there will not be up to the girls of dates and Arab vodka in case of a mess.
  21. pirat1966
    +10
    5 August 2012 12: 05
    Well, yes, that’s how they will tell you the combat mission. If all the plans for the campaign were in print, it would just be a kindergarten. I still can’t even tell my relatives what wonderful problems we solved back in 85 in the same notorious Middle-earth)) Let everyone think that the ships are simply rushing around ... Oh, cranks!
  22. Dmitry.V
    +1
    5 August 2012 12: 06
    Scare the US and the "opposition in Syria", make it clear to China that we will not stand aside and expect the same from them.
  23. sd34rwesgf
    0
    5 August 2012 12: 10
    The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
    I generally accidentally found him http://tini.cc/1jt
    Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
    And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
    Well, the truth is that you can delete all
  24. 0
    5 August 2012 12: 51
    Article and author only minus. Recently, a lot of "experts" and "armchair Napoleons" have been divorced. And yet - I never trusted political officers, especially those who graduated from the Lviv School.
    1. survivor
      0
      5 August 2012 19: 23
      oh, and I put + by chance (((. and not because I liked the article, but how to be noted .......
  25. Cadet787
    +7
    5 August 2012 12: 57
    The whole trouble of our military is that you need to speak less in the media, and direct your energy to fulfill the tasks, then there will be no rumors.
    1. red 015
      +3
      5 August 2012 13: 09
      I agree, less words more work !!!
    2. s1н7т
      +1
      6 August 2012 00: 12
      The trouble is that we have no military left.
  26. Kshatriy
    +10
    5 August 2012 12: 59
    "It is not true that all people are people. The Russians are not people, they are alien creatures" -Robert Konquist -History from the United States of America .. And as in unison, the local clown Abramovich is blowing into our ears .. one spill of Jewish citizens !!!!!! The words of this conquist, where, as abruptly, all the statements of Himler and Gebels about the Russian Hordes.! Here is a ready-made justification for why Russia can be wiped off the face of the earth using ANY weapon.! Not people live in Russia, but alien beings! I appeal to the mujahideen who appeared in the forests of the Bulgar Volga region - "Guys, after the nuclear bombing of Russia with nuclear and neutron ammunition, there will be NO ONE LIVING !!! to distinguish an orthodox Masulman from an Orthodox Slav! You should not entertain yourself with illusions! The "neo-fascists" in the person of (Rhodschilds, Morgan, Dupons, and others, and others, headed by the ruling house and her Majesty) have already made a decision to destroy this Defiant and Incomprehensible Slavic people! I will not list all those more than 1941 peoples living in modern Russia ... But take my word for it, for the Naglo-Saxons we are all Slavs-barbarians ... We have no place in their new world that they began to build ... There is no place there over a billion SLAVES ... and 150 families of neo-slaves! The time has come to choose - who is on whose side ... and the children of the Dragon (Chinese) seem to have made this choice ..., but the faithful still cannot be determined, and the choice is not great either with Russia, or with a pin -dos-tan ... be determined as soon as possible, otherwise the steamer will be late!
  27. bremest
    +5
    5 August 2012 13: 15
    An article is just an opinion.
    Ours behave pragmatically. Conflicting information comes because it’s stupid to go into an open confrontation. It is important to use the tactics of the British - Fog, fog, fog again ...........
    However, ours begin to strengthen the grouping of ships. You can once again run Poplar towards the Caspian Sea, so that the Jews in Israel again see a UFO in the sky, it can cool down ..........
  28. escobar
    +1
    5 August 2012 13: 44
    MIGnews.com. Iraqi official media reported that a representative delegation of Iraqi officials and parliamentarians had left for Moscow to negotiate the purchase of a large batch of Russian weapons.
    Before the overthrow of the regime of Saddam Hussein, Iraq was one of the largest buyers of Soviet and Russian weapons. The American occupation administration dismantled the country's air force and air defense system. The new Iraqi government is trying to rebuild these systems.
    Iraqis are interested in buying means of controlling the movement of aircraft and Russian air defense systems.
    One of the reasons for the purchase of air defense systems is a sharp deterioration in the situation in Syria, as well as the constant violation of Iraqi airspace by the Turks and Iranians, pursuing Kurdish militants.

    http://www.mignews.com
    It seems amers allowed the delivery of air defense to Iraq in exchange for non-delivery to Iran.
    1. 0
      6 August 2012 18: 46
      Quote: escobar
      It seems amers allowed the delivery of air defense to Iraq in exchange for non-delivery to Iran.


      Do our rulers still go for permissions to the US State Department? The question is rather a rhetorical one ...
  29. with
    +5
    5 August 2012 13: 47
    You don’t even need to discuss the article, just read the headline to understand that Lebedev seems to be selling the business, but the media sponsors in the end, cuts to the owners !!))
  30. pavlo007
    -3
    5 August 2012 13: 48
    It seems to me that they’re just going to take out at the time of particularly interesting, from what Assad was set up, well, I suppose there’s a little special forces on board.
  31. 0
    5 August 2012 14: 36
    Today I saw the news, Aleppo fell, and crowds of people on the square are already celebrating the victory of bandits under the flags of Alkaida .. Who heard anything? I don’t want to believe this, but it’s known that the country's army has long fought not with bandits but with NATO’s regular army armed with armored vehicles and even aviation, it’s quite possible that the city fell .. then our landing will not be enough Damascus to defend .. here I’m afraid with Syria everything will be shitty in the near future ..
    By the way, Israel doesn’t need such happiness, it has good relations with Assad, would help the Syrians ... in general, a strange situation is developing in the world ..
  32. moonblood
    0
    5 August 2012 14: 47
    And in what news? According to the 1st, here is what http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/212780
    1. 0
      5 August 2012 15: 49
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=866987&tid=95994
  33. in reserve
    +5
    5 August 2012 14: 49
    Everything is clearly said by the journalist that the position of Russia is not certain, I don’t know what they will do, but it seems to me how the mess will begin to collect clothes and go to their homeland. But it’s like some show-offs caught the ships, I understand that a good show-off is more expensive than money, but no one in this situation has been afraid of Russia for a long time and there is no respect; and not any negotiations.
    1. sergskak
      +1
      5 August 2012 15: 14
      in reserve,
      The only comment on the essence of the article. I agree completely.
  34. moonblood
    0
    5 August 2012 15: 02
    And Russia 1 shows another http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=866987&tid=95994
  35. +4
    5 August 2012 15: 14
    In general, I am for disembarking the marines in Tartus, and leaving a couple of ships for support in the raid. And not a single bastard will stick to our base. BE ASSAD or anti-Assad. And let the elbows bite.
    I am not a URA patriot, like many here. I reason logically. Assad - Khan, not today, so tomorrow. States will not lag behind him. The next goal is Iran. It is necessary either to pull the rubber in the UN, or to build the potential of Iran. Otherwise, we kirdyk ...
    1. Bashkaus
      0
      5 August 2012 22: 51
      Not that ours muddied something, that's for sure. Remember Georgia. Maybe they are really waiting for an attack on the base? And then, as usual, "PALUNDRA! -Our beat!" Disembarkation and full compulsion to peace, as much as the smoothest ...
      1. +1
        6 August 2012 18: 52
        If at the head of our armed forces were normal generals, and not stool general-menagers, then there would be several options for plans. And they would lay in sealed envelopes in the safes of the commanders of the ships ... I would like to think that this is how it is. And there would be a plan for the "defense" of Tartus ...

        One thing for sober-minded people today is already clear - Syria will not be what it was. Assad will have to leave one way or another. Bugor is right - you need to look what (and who) next ...
  36. Oleg Rosskiyy
    0
    5 August 2012 15: 41
    The author of the article is trying to reintroduce uncertainty and doubts into the ranks of those people for whom Western values ​​with their "peace-loving" disposition are not acceptable, and thus again try to discredit the current government. which is what the West needs, namely, under the pressure of the emotions of normal people who despise all kinds of extremism, to drag our country into another conflict, which can lead to the collapse of Russia itself. It is not for nothing that the "swamp" husk has been activated so recently. People be wiser, live not with emotions, but with common sense.
  37. 6o6er
    +1
    5 August 2012 17: 09
    These are the ones who already divide Russia into "swamp peel" and all the other "WISE" ...
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      5 August 2012 21: 59
      Quote: 6o6er
      These are the ones that divide Russia into the "swamp peel" and all the other "WISE" ..

      Are you personally ready to go to Syria to fight, if so then for whom, and if not why other Russian guys should die, and not you, for your firm principles. In general, quite a lot of Russians have died and they have lost the country, for someone’s ideas and freedom, but where is gratitude?
      1. +1
        5 August 2012 22: 13
        Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
        In general, quite a lot of Russians have already died and they have lost the country, for someone’s ideas and freedom, but where is gratitude?

        Forget this word thanks
        By the way, why is your multi-declaring nickname is Latin letters?
        You would have even called Ilya Muromets, although no, he was ready to give his life for Mother Russia, but this is not about you.
        No.
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          0
          6 August 2012 17: 00
          Do you have anything to think about? Having stooped to moral atavism and cynicism, you should have looked in the mirror.
        2. Oleg Rosskiyy
          0
          6 August 2012 17: 05
          Quote: Cynic
          Forget this word of gratitude
          By the way, why is your multilingual nickname typed in Latin?

          Do you have anything to think about? Much promising content is hidden under your avatar and nickname. Having stooped to moral atavism and cynicism, hiding behind the heroism of other people, it would be nice for you to look in the mirror yourself.
          1. 0
            6 August 2012 17: 35
            Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
            hiding behind the heroism of other people

            Do not you?
            1. Oleg Rosskiyy
              0
              6 August 2012 17: 43
              Quote: Cynic
              Do not you?

              Not rather yours.
      2. Bashkaus
        -1
        5 August 2012 22: 52
        And what ideas and ideals do you adhere to, for which you are ready to give your life?
        1. Shulz-1955
          0
          6 August 2012 04: 24
          And when it touches us, we will die for our lives. Hardly anyone will help us
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            +1
            6 August 2012 17: 29
            And so no one will help us except ourselves, so while there is time, we need to strengthen our army, although there will be "cynics" here who are ready to profit at the expense of others.
            1. 0
              6 August 2012 17: 44
              Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
              Nobody will help us anyway except ourselves

              Somehow you respected sharply changed the direction of the statements. To put it mildly, the opposite.
              So all the same
              By the way, why is your multilingual nickname typed in Latin?

              wink
              1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                0
                6 August 2012 18: 09
                Quote: Cynic
                Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                Nobody will help us anyway except ourselves
                Somehow you respected sharply changed the direction of the statements. To put it mildly, the opposite.
                So all the same
                By the way, why is your multilingual nickname typed in Latin?

                Firstly, this answer is not addressed to you, and secondly, Oleg Rosskiy will suit you, but do not evade the answer yourself whether you yourself are ready to go to Syria as a volunteer, or are you really "CINIC". wink
                1. 0
                  6 August 2012 18: 13
                  Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                  Firstly, this answer is not for you

                  Then in PM, please, to keep secret the migration of your statements from and to!
                  or you are actually a "CYNIC".

                  Trying to drift from cynicism to irony and from irony to cynicism.
                  Oh, very ambiguous interpretations of cynicism, so far my only hope is not to get to the extreme form - cruelty and indifference, brought to the point of absurdity.
                  1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                    0
                    6 August 2012 18: 30
                    [quote = Shulz-1955]
                    And when it touches us, we will die for our lives. Hardly anyone will help us [/ quote]
                    [quote = Cynic]
                    More to it.
                  2. Oleg Rosskiyy
                    0
                    6 August 2012 18: 57
                    Quote: Cynic
                    Trying to drift from cynicism to irony and from irony to cynicism.
                    Oh, very ambiguous interpretations of cynicism, so far my only hope is not to get to the extreme form - cruelty and indifference, brought to the point of absurdity.

                    My friend, the absurdity will come when we Russians, God forbid, crush each other, as it was already in 1917, and only because of a misunderstanding of the words spoken. You need this, I think not, as personally as I do. Therefore I wish you and all members of your family good health, strength of mind, peace of mind and, of course, peace and goodness!
        2. -1
          6 August 2012 15: 25
          Quote: Bashkaus
          And what ideas ...

          The question is very interesting, one can say intriguing!
          But what answer did you expect?
          I can not stand the words about the Motherland, the Fatherland, which have now become pompous.

          The word spoken aloud is a lie.
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            0
            6 August 2012 17: 40
            Quote: Cynic
            The word spoken aloud is a lie.

            You are right, the word spoken by "cynic" is a lie.
            1. 0
              6 August 2012 17: 55
              Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
              You are right, the word spoken by "cynic" is a lie.

              Mmmm?
              And Ecclesiastes said: Words from the lips of the wise are grace, but the lips of a fool destroy him. The words of the wise are like needles, and driven nails, and their compilers, from a single Shepherd. Why, now, all has one thing in mind: My tongue is my enemy; We cannot predict how our word will respond; Is a thought expressed out loud - is it a lie? Then it would be better if everyone was silent ... Because without God - every person is a lie (speaking)!
              1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                0
                6 August 2012 18: 15
                Quote: Cynic
                Mmmm?

                Your personal answer suited me perfectly.
        3. Oleg Rosskiyy
          0
          6 August 2012 17: 37
          I could tell you which ones, but you’ll hardly understand, because the blood spilled is not yours, and it’s good that it’s not yours, right? Time will tell who and for whom is ready to give his life, in any case not "for what."
          1. +1
            6 August 2012 18: 07
            Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
            I could answer you some, but I’m unlikely to understand, because the spilled blood of others is not yours, and it’s good that it’s not yours, is it?

            Holy truth !
            I’ve always tried this way in life, to manage only someone else’s blood! The truth did not always succeed, but ...
            Once again I repeat, I can not stand high-sounding speeches.
            Idiosyncrasy to such speeches / calls!

            And if you have to lie down in the ground,
            So this is only once!
            But let death in the fire, in the smoke
            The soldier will not be afraid,
            And what is supposed to whom
            Let everyone do it.

            So, my friends, since our turn,
            Let the steel be strong!
            Let our heart not be silent,
            The hand does not tremble.
            It's time, it's time,
            Come on, friends, go ahead!
            For everything that we lived yesterday,
            For everything that awaits tomorrow!
            1. Oleg Rosskiyy
              0
              6 August 2012 18: 21
              Quote: Cynic
              Holy truth !
              I’ve always tried this way in life, to manage only someone else’s blood! The truth did not always succeed, but ...
              Once again I repeat, I can not stand high-sounding speeches.
              Idiosyncrasy to such speeches / calls!

              And if you have to lie down in the ground,
              So this is only once!
              But let death in the fire, in the smoke
              The soldier will not be afraid,
              And what is supposed to whom
              Let everyone do it.

              So, my friends, since our turn,
              Let the steel be strong!
              Let our heart not be silent,
              The hand does not tremble.
              It's time, it's time,
              Come on, friends, go ahead!
              For everything that we lived yesterday,
              For everything that awaits tomorrow!

              No high-flown speeches, just, ready to volunteer in Syria "YES?" or not?"
              1. 0
                6 August 2012 18: 41
                Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                just YES? or not?

                You don’t understand anything.
                1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                  0
                  6 August 2012 19: 11
                  Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                  Quote: Cynic
                  Trying to drift from cynicism to irony and from irony to cynicism.
                  Oh, very ambiguous interpretations of cynicism, so far my only hope is not to get to the extreme form - cruelty and indifference, brought to the point of absurdity.
                  My friend, the absurdity will come when we Russians, God forbid, crush each other, as it was already in 1917, and only because of a misunderstanding of the words spoken. You need this, I think not, as personally as I do. Therefore I wish you and all members of your family good health, strength of mind, peace of mind and, of course, peace and goodness!
                2. Oleg Rosskiyy
                  0
                  6 August 2012 19: 16
                  Quote: Cynic
                  You don’t understand anything.

                  Yes, I understand perfectly.
                  Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                  My friend, the absurdity will come when we Russians, God forbid, crush each other, as it was already in 1917, and only because of a misunderstanding of the words spoken. You need this, I think not, as personally as I do. Therefore I wish you and all members of your family good health, strength of mind, peace of mind and, of course, peace and goodness!
      3. s1н7т
        -1
        6 August 2012 00: 18
        "... a lot of Russians died and the country was lost"

        precisely because they did not fight for firm principles. Hard currencies were preferable.
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          0
          6 August 2012 17: 20
          Quote: c1n7
          precisely because they did not fight for firm principles. Hard currencies were preferable.

          What is the problem? Take a ticket to Syria, and before, or what, is it easier to call for a fight while sitting at a computer?
  38. moonblood
    +4
    5 August 2012 17: 34
    In general, they’re doing the right thing: if there is a firm position and a certain intention, then the enemy has the opportunity to draw up his own specific counterplan, and so anything can be expected from these Russians, and if they are pressed against the wall, then they can also press a button in the hearts and, no matter what Abramovich writes, on combat duty we have far from blanks! Let the enemy’s cheeks shake from our unpredictability! Of course, I exaggerate, but ... There is something in this! Psychology!..
  39. +5
    5 August 2012 17: 45
    In this situation, even the envy of the position of the United States and NATO member countries on the Syrian issue is even envy. Yes, their impudence is no limit. Yes, shamelessly using double standards. Yes, many of their demands are immoral in their essence. But, you see, in the hardness, consistency of the position, in its sophisticated internal logic, the countries of the West will not refuse.
    Author, darling, so you want us to be arrogant, immoral, and use double standards? That is, do you want us to be treated as States in the world? I'm against.
    1. Lesorub
      +1
      5 August 2012 22: 38
      In the world there is an ongoing struggle not only between transnational corporations, special services, but also - COUNTRIES!
      The fight is not only for mineral resources, but also: religious, political, economic, scientific and technical, financial ... Success and achievements in any of these areas are quickly transformed into another in order to achieve any advantage over "partners "!
      The arsenal of modern forces, means, and methods of waging this struggle on the world stage is extremely wide and diverse ....
      If the state owns, builds up and timely uses and uses this potential, then they have to reckon with it ....
      And we will always have time to dress up in "white clothes", if something does not work out for ourselves in this struggle ...
  40. -1
    5 August 2012 19: 10
    Quote: Petrovich-2
    so you want us to be arrogant too ...

    Do not distort. No.
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      6 August 2012 17: 45
      Quote: Cynic
      Do not distort.

      Rather impudent cynics.
  41. Lesorub
    +2
    5 August 2012 22: 10
    The purpose of this article is DISCREDIT the presence of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean as a deterrent to NATO aggression
  42. 77bor1973
    +2
    5 August 2012 22: 43
    The first time I hear that the maximum load was set depending on the wear of the ship, the maximum speed may decrease, fuel consumption may increase! Did Julius Caesar be asked at the military council when he was going to speak out against the enemy? -if my tunic could speak, I would burn it, Caesar answered! If the ships go somewhere, then this is necessary, but we are not supposed to know more than this.
  43. Darck
    -2
    5 August 2012 22: 51
    The death of support personnel will only untie Moscow’s hands.

    If America unleashes a war for attacking its ship, they will be aggressors or something else. And when the Russians do the same, this is a subtle flight move .... And these people blame others for double standards. wassat
    1. Facturin
      +5
      5 August 2012 23: 38
      Quote: Darck
      If America unleashes a war for attacking its ship

      She does not need to be attacked, she attacks herself, and then she yells with good obscenities! fool
  44. -1
    5 August 2012 23: 42
    Let’s be realistic, this group of the Russian Navy is not able to withstand the fleets of NATO countries, and it’s quite essential that such a task was not set. Also, these forces are not enough to oppose opposition guerrilla terrorists even when defending Tartus. More precisely, these forces will be enough for a while, but fraught with losses with an almost negative scenario of subsequent events (evacuation of Tartus) ... But there are landing, that is, transport, ships in the Mediterranean Sea. It seems likely to me that these ships can be used as a flexible tool for reacting to subsequent events in Syria. On the one hand, Russia can help, if necessary, arming the BDK (armored vehicles, small arms) to Assad and his supporters. Also, the presence of these ships will not allow the West to block Syria from the sea. Well, as a last resort, the BDK will be able to evacuate not only Russian troops from Tartus, but also a significant number of Assad's supporters with some material values.
  45. Jib
    Jib
    0
    5 August 2012 23: 51
    On August 4 this year, as part of the joint inter-naval grouping of the Russian Navy, which currently includes a group of warships (OBK) of the Northern Fleet (SF): large landing ships Alexander Otrakovsky, George Pobedonosets, Kondopoga, and detachment of warships of the Baltic Fleet: patrol ships Yaroslav the Wise and Undaunted, will include a detachment of ships led by the large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet, Vice Admiral Kulakov.

    Currently, the large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet, Vice Admiral Kulakov, the large sea tanker (BMT) of the Black Sea Fleet, Ivan Bubnov, and the sea tug of the Black Sea Fleet, MB-304, are located in the designated waiting area in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.

    The inter-naval grouping of warships of the Russian Navy will continue to carry out tasks in the Mediterranean Sea according to the plan of a single command. After the inclusion of the large Vice-Admiral Kulakov anti-submarine ship and two support vessels in the grouping, the state of the group’s water, food and fuel reserves will be calculated.

    Given the possible entry of the group into the Black Sea and the corresponding extension of the long voyage, the command will plan replenishment of ships at sea from support vessels, or using the same support vessels, but not warships, due to the resource of the Russian logistics support point Tartuse (Syria), where the crew of the floating workshop PM-138, headed by the captain of the 2nd rank of the reserve Alexander Kashalaba, has been staying for more than a month.
    On August 8-10, BMT Ivan Bubnov is scheduled to enter Crete.
    SEVASTOPOL.SU
  46. 0
    5 August 2012 23: 52
    I love this guy "Events of the day. A patriot's view - 04-05.08.2012" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2TcJ9-QY8&feature=player_detailpage

    complete clarity and counterbalance to this provocative article and finally I suggest that the respected admins begin to comply with the law and put a label on the articles - "FOREIGN AGENT" so as not to lead a respectable public into confusion! wink
  47. 6o6er
    0
    6 August 2012 21: 41
    A radar tracking station is presumably located on Tartus, and the task is to evacuate equipment and specialists in case of a mess, if anyone does not know what the landing ships are, take an interest, it is not possible to "hang out" on them for a long time for a large number of people ... so on them most likely a Marine guard company and that's it.
  48. Sehiru san
    0
    8 August 2012 10: 06
    With unclear to whom? I think it is clear to them themselves that they indicate presence and are ready to defend the base.
  49. Blackjack
    -1
    9 August 2012 17: 50
    Quote: Facturin
    This is some kind of clinic, not journalists!

    it yes

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