Foreign Policy: Russians have little money and are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India

The Western edition of The Foreign Policy has published columnist material Sumit Ganguli, which talks about the growing confrontation between India and China. And the publication would not have been Western if it had not written about "the best way to fight India with China."

Summit Ganguli writes that in this way for India would be "the termination of close contacts with Moscow and the establishment of ties with Washington."

From the material:

In late June, just a few days after a deadly battle on the border between Indian and Chinese forces, Indian Defense Minister Rajnat Singh went to Moscow to take part in a parade dedicated to the victory over Nazi Germany. During his visit, Singh made a deal to acquire fighters and other weapons worth $ 2,4 billion. The agreement followed the agreement reached last year when India decided to acquire the S-400 air defense systems, despite clear objections from the United States.

The author finds it strange that India continues to rely on Russian weapons at a time “when there is no shortage of other suppliers.” The Ganguli leads, of course, the United States of America.

The Foreign Policy commentator says India’s purchase of Russian weapons is driven by “past decisions.”

From the article:

Despite the fact that India seeks to diversify its sources of supply, up to 60 percent of its military arsenal is of either Soviet or Russian origin. Not surprisingly, India is still dependent on Russia for spare parts and the modernization of its arsenal.

Another reason the author calls the position of Russia itself:

The Russians have too little money, and they are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India.

It is added that India is not always ready to acquire weapons from the United States because of the position of Congress, since it often itself restricts transactions for the supply of modern weapons abroad.

Comments

[dml9]

And the United States has a lot of money, but they are also happy to give someone their Patriots.

[Terenin]

Quote: dml9

And the United States has a lot of money, but they are also happy to give someone their Patriots.

Notice , here is the keyword

first class weapon

[Prisoner]

It is difficult to apply this keyword to the Patriots.

[Maki maki]

Each sandpiper praises its swamp

[4ekist]

"India has decided to acquire the S-400 air defense system, despite clear objections from the United States ......"

It suddenly became funny already .... the protesters object.

[ultra]

And did the author receive money for this “article”?

[Terenin]

Quote: ultra

And did the author receive money for this “article”?

Well, I didn’t take it with cartridges.

[Prisoner]

Sumit Ganguly has little money and is happy to sell his murky Foreign Policy article.

[DIM (a)]

Well said!

[poquello]

such a sediment as the "petriot" of India is not needed

[Mountain shooter]

Count the money in your pocket! Do not count strangers ...

[mark2]

There is not much money. Buy - why not sell. Especially weapons collectors such as Hindus, still need to search

[codetalker]

Military-technical cooperation is not entirely about money. More precisely, not only about money.

[tralflot1832]

It’s not good to count someone else’s money, otherwise God will punish! Mama probably brought up badly?

[Runoway]

And where does the money from the Russians come from when the authorities and the oligarchs are solid "Russians"
In general, modern Russia is more reminiscent of the individual principalities of ancient Russia before the arrival of the Golden Horde. A separate principality of Sechin, Miller, Deripaska (very clearly showed that the Norilsk kingdom is his and the governor there for the state) and many others. Yes, of course, on the whole, after the EBN, it can be seen that they gathered and thought, they say the trouble is over all of us, we need to throw off the defense industry and so on for little things. For the rest, as 4% of the population stratum fattened, it continues to take the lion's share of the country's wealth

[mark2]

And where does the money from the Russians come from when the authorities and the oligarchs are solid "Russians"

And where are they not oligarchs? Maybe the point is not in them, but in someone’s money machine does not stop?

before the advent of the Golden Horde. Separate Principality of Sechin, Miller, Deripaska

And with the advent of the horde, all-Russian blasphemy came straight

Yes, of course, in general, after the EBN, we apparently got together and pondered, saying that the trouble is over all of us, we need to throw ourselves into the defense industry and so on the little things.

Well yes. Elites sooner or later realize that besides their country, nobody needs them, with their collections of dollars.

And the rest, as a 4% stratum of the population was fat, it continues to take the lion's share of the country's wealth

Well, as we wanted? This is capitalism. The complete exploitation of the proletariat for wages, and the capitalist takes all the surplus value. 29 years ago, we ourselves chose this path. And here it is not necessary to recall the bike about voting for the preservation of the USSR. Nobody was protecting the EGT. Civil did not happen, so the majority agreed by default.

[Runoway]

What is wrong with the PRC, South Korea, and Singapore (why is capitalism not harmful to them)? The Russian Federation is more like India, although not, they have castes to the detriment and fertility, and there are few brains. I’ll even ask in a different way: “Tell me another country with the same reserves and scientific and technological potential, who, with all this, has such a disastrous economy and standard of living?

[5-9]

Ohhhhh ... the extra profits from the export of hydrocarbons go to the maintenance of the 2nd military force in the world (the 3rd one swallows dust somewhere far from the horizon) and industry for it so that these resources are not taken away ... even with PPP we have everything 4 bulbs (like in Germany), and in the USA approx. 16 (this is real, cleaned up from postscripts, nominally officially - 21), China - 23 ... and 150 million is not 320 (+500 in Europe) or 1400 China ..

[d ^ Amir]

no, it just dawned on the smartest that without the state as a roof having real sovereignty (read - atomic weapons) they would democratically squeeze everything out, and life is the same ... Milosevic clearly showed this ..

[NordUral]

Yes, of course, in general, after the EBN, we apparently got together and pondered, saying that the trouble is over all of us, we need to throw ourselves into the defense industry and so on the little things. For the rest, as 4% of the population stratum fattened, it continues to take the lion's share of the country's wealth

I have been telling my Putinists about this for a long time, but everyone believes in a bright future with these people.

[5-9]

Russians have too little money ????

Is this with a surplus of foreign trade balance of 60-70% ??? Yes, they simply don’t allow us to spend them ... because this is an undermining of the current world financial system, when a certain part of export earnings should be returned to the USA and a little in the West ... failure is equal to a declaration of war ... therefore we can spend on infrastructure like 2018 Olympics or World Cup ...

Little money ... is this a country with a budget deficit and a trade deficit per year of trill? Where is a quarter of the budget paid in %%?

[Morglenn]

The Russians have too little money, and they themselves are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India

But what did he actually say wrong? All the latest weapons immediately flow abroad, although his own army is rearming at a snail's pace or does not even see them in the eye.

[Vadim237]

Russia is not participating in the arms race - this is why the pace of rearmament is corresponding.

[NordUral]

For us, we should not talk about the arms race, Vadim, but about the race for survival.

[poquello]

Quote: Morglenn

All the latest weapons immediately flow abroad

Che S-500 already sold to someone?

[5-9]

Well, yes, 440 combat aircraft in a decade and dozens of S-400 divisions or upgraded tanks more than the United States in general it is ... turtle pace ... do we need to even more take away hospitals from pregnant pensioners ??? Or too many bridges with roads?

[Morglenn]

we can recall the T-90s, which India has more than 3 times in Russia, BMP-3 which the UAE has more than Russia itself, 2c31 veins of which the army almost did not see at all, and they all went to Azerbaijan. And this is only that offhand remembered.

[Lena Petrova]

India is not our neighbor and enemy at all. Let them buy (and they have living money), but with profit and you can put something for free.

[5-9]

And if you remember how many Leo2 Germany and other countries have? In this case, for some reason, the Germans are praised for how well they sell their tanks ..
The tank park of the Russian Federation is the strongest in the world ...

[Alien From]

No one will sell modern weapons to third countries. This is an axiom. These guys take a lot on themselves.

[pexotinec]

Well, at least our weapon was called first-class and thanks for that.

[bubasa]

Absolutely true statement, and given that the United States is selling its weapons to anyone ... we can conclude that the United States is poor. Thank God that in the United States in general and this edition in particular, there are such online ones;)

[_Ugene_]

Russians have little money

This is true

first class weapon

and it is true

[cniza]

They manage to combine this and without realizing it, that our weapons are more effective and cheaper, the best advertisement.

[5-9]

By the way, in the White House (not Reytheon even) they get hysterical when someone buys the S-400 instead of the Patriot RAS-3 ... and the officials simply burst with pride, the code of some oil sheikhs can be untwisted for the purchase of American weapons ... it would seem ridiculous billions or tens or a “deal of the century” for 100 lard .. when the Fed directs these days through non-KEE trillions to primary dealer banks falls off ... it turns out earned and printed dollars are different dollars (probably in the USA there is no hyperinflation yet)

[Egoza]

A short memory in India. They would honor their history, maybe they would remember the Anglo-Saxons and their descendants - Americans. You can’t wash off a black dog. Nothing good will come of them, accepting help from the Americans.

[cniza]

The Anglo-Saxons will never leave India alone, they will pull it into their circle of interests with all their might.

[cniza]

Despite the fact that India seeks to diversify its sources of supply, up to 60 percent of its military arsenal is of either Soviet or Russian origin. Not surprisingly, India is still dependent on Russia for spare parts and the modernization of its arsenal.

And they want it to depend on the United States ...

[DIM (a)]

Not surprisingly, India is still dependent on Russia for spare parts and the modernization of its arsenal.

that is, India is more interested in depending on the USA? Strange approach ...

The US ... often itself restricts deals on the supply of modern weapons abroad

And what kind of diversification can we talk about?

[Rostislav]

The Russians have little money, and they themselves are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India

Penguins have a lot of money, and they themselves would be happy to sell their old weapons to India.

[Boris Chernikov]

those. The United States would sell the Patriots, but with neglect?)

[Old26]

Quote: Carrier

It's not about the money .. And the impact on India, our weapons, our advisers, technicians, etc.
Would buy our air defense echeloned (expensive) then they wouldn’t know China, Pakistan would not be scared .. But they’re squeezing something

write nonsense, dear! To buy a layered air defense, against which neither China nor Pakistan would be scary - it will take a very, very much money and a lot of time. For you have to buy much more than a regiment kit. You will need to buy a dozen or two regimental sets of only S-400, not to mention another air defense. So it is NOT REAL. And buying a regiment kit is most likely a game to the public. They, like the S-300 Iranians, will tear it up into sub-divisions, which means that they will “take out” this division if they wish

Quote: 5-9

By the way, in the White House (not Reytheon even) they get hysterical when someone buys the S-400 instead of the Patriot RAS-3 ... and the officials simply burst with pride, the code of some oil sheikhs can be untwisted for the purchase of American weapons ...

Had a chance to attend such a tantrum in the White House ???? Well, congratulations !!! It turns out they are in such high spheres, and sometimes write nonsense.
In-1. Any country is glad when someone can currently sell something from military equipment. The market for buyers is small, and there are many suppliers. We, too, were happy and puffed up with pride that we were able to sell the S-400 to India and Turkey, bringing the number of buyers of this system right up to FOUR (versus 2,5 dozens of countries buying the Patriot.
In-2. Nevertheless, one must understand the technology and not compare the missile defense system with an interception range of 30-35 km with an air defense system, which is mainly intended for hitting aerodynamic targets, and when hitting ballistic targets, both of these systems (RAS-3 and S-400) are approximately equal . If you want to compare - compare the PAC-2 MSE with the C-400, and not with the PAC-3

[Tusv]

Quote: Old26

If you want to compare - compare the PAC-2 MSE with the C-400, and not with the PAC-3

And what is there to compare that. American on the battery system, Russian on the divisional. Yanks create their own Packs under the rocket, We rockets under the BIOS DCT. Hence the richer range of weapons with excellent overload characteristics (the American loses) and dunking is not so easy. C-400 is included in A2 / AD Patriot THAAD serve for amplification. That's all the comparisons.
PS: At what distance did the Chinese shoot down a ballistic target?

[rocket757]

Quote: Carrier

It's not about the money .. And the impact on India, our weapons, our advisers, technicians, etc.
Would buy our air defense echeloned (expensive) then they wouldn’t know China, Pakistan would not be scared .. But they’re squeezing something

Another old tale .... who did these Soviet / Russian weapons keep in our, albeit b, fellow travelers?
It was necessary to teach this in those days, whoever of those allies was, then there would be no illusions b!

[alex aircraft]

We must try to return the Indians to Su 57, and maybe to the armature, boomerang, St. coalition, everything will be cheaper than pulling by ourselves. How strange is participating in F 35? And the market will save your budget.

[Andrey.AN]

Fools, there is more free money from the Russian Federation than the EU and the USA combined, these creatures have long been in the minuses, minus tens of trillions, the Russian Federation has one, but in the plus, the Chmyri will not argue here.

[silberwolf88]

another pro-Western cock crowed for cooperation with the Pindo camp ... there is nothing surprising ... and Russian weapons are really the best in the world in terms of price / quality ratio ... the rest is nuances ... such as personnel training ... purchasing an option for maintenance during operation ... and so on ...

[HMR333]

Not a competent pretzel! The United States is interested in the conflict between India and China because of its conflict with China, but they themselves are ready to trynit to go to China and they will be happy to push India! A weapon with 400 is more modern and better and cheaper, and with regard to spare parts it will depend on anyone who buys it, so this is not an argument at all!

[Andrey.AN]

Russians have a trillion in positive territory, and all Western trillions have a negative in balance, who has little money here?

[Viktor Sergeev]

Diversification in weapons is the path to self-destruction.

[Cowbra]

For example, KSVK, paddle, exhaust, Izhik-38 - from snipers? Where is the way? Way to heaven or hell, I don’t know

[Viktor Sergeev]

I did not understand what you wrote. But I will explain: an increase in the number of systems leads to the complexity of combination, complication of logistics and, as a consequence, to the impossibility of normally organizing supplies and repairs, and at the same time, more specialists are needed, each for a new system. It is better to have a T34-85 and SPGs unified with it than five different-colored tanks, following the example of the Germans.

[Adimius38]

So this is not a secret, Russia has always sold the most advanced weapons to India and perhaps really because it was in dire need of money

[Cowbra]

A story from those who sell F-35s))) Or, for example, YABCh sold Londonia) Mattresses have a lot of money. Not so much. so as not to sell nuclear weapons)

[sen]

The Russians have little money, and they themselves are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India

Arms are correct, but Russia has increased its sales of gold and silver abroad sixfold.
https://futurerussia.gov.ru/nacionalnye-proekty/rf-uvelicila-eksport-zolota-i-serebra-v-6-raz-posle-izmenenij-pravil-vyvoza-do-364-mlrd?utm_source=finobzor.ru

[Whirlwind]

The quality of Soviet and now Russian weapons has been tested by India over time, especially since the price of our weapons has never been as high as that of the United States.

[barin]

I am glad to sell Rosoboronexport.

[APASUS]

The Russians have too little money, and they are happy to sell their first-class weapons to India.

Experts, only experts around ..........
Americans are generally poor, since they sell their planes the most in the world.

[good]

And why should India rely on the United States if they can put India on sanctions at any time, as has happened repeatedly :)))) If they put their NATO allies on a gop-stop or throw it away, then even more so at any moment to bend India can.

[Old26]

Quote: Tusv

And what is there to compare that. American on the battery system, Russian on the divisional. Yanks create their own Packs under the rocket, We rockets under the BIOS DCT. Hence the richer range of weapons with excellent overload characteristics (the American loses) and dunking is not so easy. C-400 is included in A2 / AD Patriot THAAD serve for amplification. That's all the comparisons.
PS: At what distance did the Chinese shoot down a ballistic target?

Namesake, you've dug too deep. For the overwhelming mass of people who write, this is "give a damn". Battery or divisional structure. Basically, they compare the performance characteristics, and sometimes for incomparable systems.
As for the fact that the Patriot needs THAAD, but the S-400 does not - I think that this is also not true. The THAAD system is still a missile defense system (and only missile defense), with an engagement zone of approximately 200 in range and 200 in height. The "Patriot" PAC-3 has an EMNIP range of about 35-40 km, a height of about 30. The S-400 has approximately the same parameters for intercepting ballistic targets. In terms of range, it is slightly more than that of the Patriot PAC-3 - about 60, according to open sources.

As for the Chinese and their interception - IMHO this is a fake, the Chinese assertion that they intercepted almost at a distance of 400 km. Aerodynamic target - I believe. But the ballistic one - alas, "I don't believe"

Quote: bubasa

Absolutely true statement, and given that the United States is selling its weapons to anyone ... we can conclude that the United States is poor. Thank God that in the United States in general and this edition in particular, there are such online ones;)

Not everyone. First of all, or allies, or those who need to be "fastened". And we are chasing everyone who is not lazy. If only they took ...

Quote: Cowbra

Or for example YABCH London was sold

Don't write nonsense ...

[boris epstein]

And the United States has too much money, but it is constantly trying to sell its weapons to the whole world, even threatening with sanctions, like Turkey.

[venaly]

The United States has a lot of money, but this money is borrowed and unsecured.