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Russian Premier: on the verge of a dream

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In contrast to the sea and especially the oceanic expanses of water, everything in the air is more or less in order. There is everything: interceptors, fighters and bombers. Plus there is also some potential for modifications and (knock knock, so as not to jinx) new developments.


Everything is not very nice with transport aviation (later you will understand why such an accent), but everything is sad there solely because whoever should be happy just spits on problems.

But now we will not talk about transport aircraft, but about AWACS aircraft. Long-range radar detection and control.

It’s probably not worth starting to tell how such planes are needed in any normal Air Force. These are eyes and brains that see far away, think quickly and give instructions to those who go to carry out a combat mission. Decent radar station and command post in the same cabin above the clouds.

In general, she история Soviet AWACS aircraft (there are no Russian ones yet) is short to disgrace. And it consists of only two points. So let's take a look at history.

Oddly enough, but the British were the first in the invention and application of AWACS aircraft. Back in 1940, they equipped several Wellington bombers with radar transmitters and rotating antennas.

Russian Premier: on the verge of a dream

Let's just say that the experiment was a success, and hand-made machines became a good help in closing the "dead" zones of British radars in the "Battle of Britain". And then they helped to direct the interceptors to the Fau.

The first serial AWACS aircraft were, of course, American. They were able to shove as many as two stations operating in different ranges: centimeter and decimeter into the torpedo bomber Avenger.


The peak power of the complex is one megawatt. This happened in 1945, the complex worked successfully, detecting aircraft at a distance of up to 120 km, and ships (cruiser class and above) - up to 350. That is, it is guaranteed beyond detection.

American naval I liked this thing, and the planes went into the series as a separate class. And they went well, new ones were released, old ones were modernized.

Only in 1965 did the USSR think that we needed our own AWACS. At that time in the United States, 8 AWACS and 1 AWACS helicopter were already developed. The Soviet Union, as always, began the game "catch up and overtake."

In general, if you look seriously, then our air defense forces did not really need this plane. The Soviet defensive doctrine, which was not just in words, but in fact was just defensive, provided for the use of radar in the territory of his country. And the work of ground systems relied on the crews of fighter interceptors.

Is it logical? Quite.

And the United States, which designated itself the world gendarme, often had to direct planes at targets in conditions where support from the ground could not be expected. And in some countries there was no radar network capable of performing such tasks.

Everything is also logical.

And now, as soon as the ambitions of the USSR crossed their own borders, and this happened in Korea, then the analysis of air battles showed the need for such an aircraft.

Plus, we had one direction, which was requested to be closed precisely by AWACS planes. North. American strategists could well try to break through precisely our North, where it was not possible to deploy a radar network at that time. So a flying radar on patrol would be very helpful.

And in 1958, the government said: “We are building!” In 1962, the aircraft made its first flight, and in 1965 was adopted by the Tu-126. In total, eight aircraft were built, which served more than 20 years.


The Tu-126 was created on the basis of the Tu-114 turboprop passenger liner, a civilian modification of the Tu-95 strategic bomber. It is also logical, because only such an aircraft could easily accommodate that pile of equipment that was necessary for the normal operation of the complex.

The Liana radar system was pushed into the Tu-126, and there was still room for radio intelligence equipment. The problem of placing the antenna was originally solved: it did not rotate inside the mushroom-shaped cowl, but with the cowl, which the world had neither before nor after Tu-126.

Station "Liana" for that time was a very good detection system and allowed to detect aircraft at ranges from 100 to 300 kilometers, sea targets such as a cruiser - up to 400 kilometers.

So for the first time, everything was very optimistic. Yes, there were also disadvantages in the form of excessive noise from motors and equipment, and vibration. Serving on the Tu-126 was very uncomfortable.


As the radio equipment developed, it was necessary to change the filling of the aircraft. Moreover, in 20 years the entire Tu-126 complex has become hopelessly outdated.

But there is a nuance: the development of a new aircraft, AWACS, began almost immediately after the Tu-126 showed good results.

The new flying radar was the A-50, which was adopted in 1985.


Photo: Maxim Maksimov russianplanes.net

The development of the A-50 went on for 12 years. “Liana” was replaced by “Bumblebee” of the same concern “Vega”, and as a base took Il-76, the most powerful aircraft of the USSR at that time.

The work was huge. As the A-50 complex was created, hundreds of military requirements and wishes were taken into account. The complex began to detect low-flying targets well, the detection range increased, the A-50 received a kit for refueling in the air, which greatly increased its autonomy. Normal conditions were created for the work and rest of operators, the number of which decreased from 24 to 10.

It was a beautiful work ahead of the curve. And the flying complex turned out right. Except for one thing: if you compare it with the Tu-126 - this is a great car. According to the level of the 60s of the last century. Compared with what the Americans were armed with, that is, with the Sentry, the A-50 lost in everything.

Yes, in ideal conditions (which in war conditions does not happen at all), the A-50 sees enemy fighters at a distance of up to 300 km. But small targets with a small EPR, such as cruise missiles, he sees very poorly. The number of escorted targets is up to 150. As a control center, the A-50 can control 10-12 fighters.

The Sentry, which is now the backbone of American "eyes in the air," is more advanced in terms of hardware capabilities. It can detect and track up to 100 targets. According to him, up to 30 aircraft or ground-based air defense systems or ships can operate. Sentry sees a cruise missile with an EPR near a square meter at a distance of up to 400 km, and a bomber discovers at a distance of more than 500 km.

In this case, the S-3 E-50 appeared earlier than the A-7. Not much, for 50 years. But the fact that we are inferior in the electronic field to the States is an indisputable fact. Because today, "Sentry" looks after modernization preferable than the A-XNUMXU.


In addition, Americans, as usual, take a number. Today they have 33 Sentries. Another 17 are under the command of NATO (consider the Americans), 7 from the UK and 4 from France. Total - 61 aircraft.

We have five A-50s and four A-50Us in service. Without comment, we, in fact, do not need such a number of AWACS aircraft. But in terms of quality there are questions.

"Bumblebee-2", which stands on the A-50U, is not much superior to its first model. The characteristics are 15-20% better, yes, digital technologies played a role, but just a huge amount of foreign components caused fair criticism. While there were no sanctions and restrictions, we were able to modernize the complex, what will happen next ... Today, with great difficulty, everyone believes in bravura tales of complete import substitution.

Yes, in 2004 work began on the third model, the A-100 Premier. Based on the IL-76MD-90A. The performers are the same, Vega and the Beriev TANTK. The work began, and, as is now customary with us, transfers began.

A-100 was supposed to go to service in 2014. Then in 2016. In 2017, Minister Shoigu announced that the aircraft would be ready in 2020. Here it is, 2020, and in April, the same Shoigu, not flinching, announces that the A-100 will be completed in 2024.

That is, 20 years after the start of development.

Quickly, I agree. I was criticizing the Su-57 somehow, and so, I quickly managed to deal with the fighter myself ...

If you carefully look at the reports, the impression is almost wrecking. All participants in the work speak as one: everything is in order, everything is there, it’s the little thing. Wow little things ...

The Ulyanovsk Aviation Plant was first accused of delays. Yes, everyone needs IL-76MD-90A. A transport plane, a tanker, AWACS are good for everything. But the Ulyanovsk plant can produce only 3 (THREE) aircraft per year. Alas.

How can one not recall the idle Voronezh plant VASO, which at one time did both IL-76 and IL-86, and assembled planes for the president ... The plant is standing, the deficit has been created. But everyone is happy with everything.

The miracle happened in 2014, when the coveted IL-76MD-90A finally arrived in Taganrog. Everything, cheers! It remains only to mount the equipment, install the antenna - and for testing!

Yeah, now ...

The first flight of the A-100 took place already in 2017! Three years were spent do not understand what. More precisely, then you will understand what.

Strange, isn't it? The equipment is ready, built-in, the plane - here it flies. Why is there no complex? Why are there no trials? Where is the FSB, where is the punishment and landing of pest enemies? Why can't the almost new (20 years in total) complex be brought to a working state?

Everything is simple. There is nobody and nothing.

When it all started, no one even thought about any sanctions. Therefore, designers put components from around the world into their designs according to the principle “If you don’t have ours, we’ll buy it!”

It turned out that by the time the assembly began, we could not buy much. More precisely, they will not sell it to us. And his own was not, and is not expected. Domestic manufacturers (survivors) of microelectronics really lag behind the West by 15 years or even more. And in terms of technology and all 25.

It turned out that there is a plane, there is an antenna, there is a radar, but it is simply impossible to combine all this into a working complex. There are no foreign chips, but there were no domestic ones.

To say that this was some kind of surprise is impossible. To tell. That no reaction followed - either. In 2017, the CEO of Vega Vladimir Verba was fired, and Vyacheslav Mikheev was appointed in his place. Well, I know what task Mikheev was set up, but he is unlikely to just get the necessary components out of his pocket.

Intelligence will help us. It is clear that what is impossible to buy and produce will be given to us by those for whom the impossible does not exist. Get out, good, there is experience, and even what!

And it is clear that “Premiere” will sooner or later, well, not in 2024, but by 2030 will bring to mind. And it will be really cooler than the "Center". Radar with AFAR, the ability to detect up to 300 targets (of course, with tracking), range up to 700 km, target detection with a small EPR ...

All clear. Will be.

Another question is what will the Americans roll out in 2030?

And they will be able to bring to mind the Boeing 737 AEW & C, with which they have also been slowly fighting for 15 years ... And they are successfully selling. This aircraft will be able to detect up to 3 (three thousand) targets at a distance of 000-400 km per cycle. And also a radar with AFAR ...


But the Americans can not afford to rush, they have "Sentry" more than fifty available.

There is still time until 2024. Let's see if the AWACS A-100 Premier aircraft turns out of an airplane, antenna and a pile of electronics.

So far, the premiere of "Premiere" has been postponed and postponed ...
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 20 July 2020 05: 56 New
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    The author is right. Although the article is slightly pessimistic, even if the jingoistic patriots will find a dozen excuses / counterarguments, in fact the author is right.
    And about long-term construction, and about sanctions and about lies from the Ministry of Defense ...
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 20 July 2020 07: 18 New
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      Rather, you yourself caved in before the author, and so cognitively, according to the status and purpose of the site. That's enough, there is no post box here. yes
    2. lucul
      lucul 20 July 2020 10: 30 New
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      Although the article is slightly pessimistic, even if the jingoistic patriots will find a dozen excuses / counterarguments, in fact the author is right.

      Pffff ..... Punchinel's Secret))))
      There is an unspoken taboo on developments that the "partners" consider to be key - this is motor engineering and electronics, machine tools, genetics, etc. It seems that everything is quite simple, but in reality, you will be constantly putting sticks in your wheels, out of the blue, countless "sleeping agents "successfully mimicking" Russian "and holding good positions. And who live "in this country". Just on command from the center. The shoals are just ridiculously climbing out of the blue - like that cleaning lady who "broke" the samples for doping of the American team ...
      And try to touch them - immediately shouts are heard - "bloody tyrant" and "new 1937".
    3. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 20 July 2020 13: 54 New
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      Isn't that the case with the Americans? The same postponement, the same breakdowns. Personally, I am glad that they cannot because of the lack of chips, maybe this will push to the development of their microelectronics. By and large, the author is right, this product, now, we absolutely do not need, we need to think about a reserve of 30 years.
      1. georgiigennadievitch
        georgiigennadievitch 20 July 2020 15: 47 New
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        Nothing will push. We have money among those who drive hydrocarbons and other raw materials and products of the first processing over the hill (for example, aluminum in ingots), as well as in banks. All this public is interested only in profit and exporting it over the hill. More They don’t need any domestic chips and microelectronics. And it’s impossible to shut up everything only at the expense of the military budget. In the states, microelectronics and software are products of private advanced corporations. They understand that it is better and more practical to sell one ” a smartphone "than a few tons of coal. And our" oligarchs "who accidentally received industries and money are not ready to compete in the field of high technologies, they do not know how and do not want to. For example, Deripaska planned to produce Volga. Bought for this business at a cheap price used line in the states for a car that was removed from production, because it was not in demand there. (Our people are eating everything!) As usual, almost all "stuffing" is imported. Only when our ruble once again dipped, it turned out that the car After the drumbeat in the press, production quietly turned off. I could not calculate the cost of my Yo-Mobile and Prokhorov. He did not even release it, because. I saw a net loss ... And these are the "captains" of our business. What can we say about those who just sucked to the pipe and stupidly exchange raw materials for dollars. In order to change the situation, it is necessary to return all the raw materials business and capital from offshore companies and nationalize it. So who will allow ...
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 20 July 2020 20: 13 New
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          Everything is clear with you, you are looking for only the negative, and you make a conclusion about the whole of Russia based on one piece of news. I live in Tula, so I do not need to carry your nonsense.
    4. ancient
      ancient 20 July 2020 17: 05 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The author is right.

      For the author ... wink
      Quote from the article - "..... The antenna placement problem was originally solved: it rotated not inside a mushroom fairing, but together with a fairing, which was not in the world either before the Tu-126, or after. wink
      We look and .... "we are surprised" .... but it turns out that ..... "Eppus si muove!" fellow

      On Hawkeye, by the way ... the same ... drinks
    5. Grading
      Grading 20 July 2020 21: 16 New
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      The A-100 Premier Aircraft Carrier Aircraft became a victim of chronic technological backwardness. It was planned to launch it into serial production in 2015, but, as usual, “something went wrong”, and endless “shifts to the right” of the delivery date of the new aircraft began.
      Viktor Kuzovkov

      It so happened historically that in Russia the main "guardians of the sky" are considered ground-based anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM). There are many reasons for this, and the main one is probably in psychology - we remember how the S-75 air defense system was shot down by an American U-2 reconnaissance aircraft, how our anti-aircraft missiles in dozens and hundreds shot down American Phantoms in Vietnam, like the Syrian air defense systems “Kvadrat” (early version of the Cube air defense system) shot down Israeli planes during the Arab-Israeli wars, as the Egypt-owned Dvina air defense systems showed themselves excellently in confrontation with the Israeli air force, shooting down, according to some estimates, more than 40% of all military aircraft lost by Israel.

      Around the ground-based air defense systems a kind of halo of invincibility and invulnerability has developed. At least for our consciousness this is almost an axiom. And now, when we read about the fact that in Syria, Libya, or some other hot spot in the world, Russian-made air defense systems do not fully cope with the solution of the tasks assigned to them, or simply become victims of air strikes, in society instantly arise conspiracy theories of what happened - either the new owners of our air defense systems are completely ignorant, or we supply them with highly simplified versions of our "world's best" complexes, or even worse, all the secrets have long been sold to Israel and the United States.

      But the reality is somewhat harsher. Alas, if you face the truth, you have to admit that modern aviation will always outplay and destroy any air defense system if it stands alone in an open field and is waiting for an attack. Why is this happening, you ask? And in this case, do we need air defense systems as such?

      Let's immediately answer the second question - yes, we do. Really needed. There is still no full-fledged alternative to modern ground-based air defense systems, and it is unlikely that they will be replaced in the foreseeable future. But let's not get ahead of ourselves and try to understand how modern air defense works in general, and how it, ideally, should work.

      First of all, let's remember that the Earth has the shape of a ball. And the horizon, beyond which nothing is visible, exists not only for our eyes, but also for radars. It even has a special designation, "radio horizon", and denotes an imaginary line, below which it is impossible to peep with conventional radar means. So, any ground-based air defense system is a hostage of this very radio horizon, while an aircraft may well descend below this line, get close to the air defense system at a missile launch distance, "emerge" for a few seconds, release missiles and go down again, into an area inaccessible to antennas radar post of the air defense missile system.

      In order to somehow reduce the severity of the problem, modern air defense systems are equipped with radars on a telescopic boom. Raising it a couple of tens of meters, you can move the radio horizon a little, see the enemy a little earlier and, accordingly ...
      1. Grading
        Grading 20 July 2020 21: 17 New
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        Although no, aviation and aviation weapons also do not stand still, and now the range of their destruction is sufficient to hit an air defense system due to the radio horizon, even somewhat pushed back. So is it a dead end?

        And again, no. A modern air defense system can be very effective. But to be convinced of this, we need to get rid of the stereotype and stop thinking that air defense systems are exhausted only by anti-aircraft missile systems, which, in a fair confrontation, are trying to single-handedly destroy enemy aircraft. No, air defense is a whole set of tools that complement and reinforce each other. And only in combination can they fully solve the tasks of covering ground objects from the air.

        In addition to ground-based air defense systems, the air component of air defense is of great importance - fighters and early-range radar detection aircraft (AWACS and AWACS). The former, as the name implies, can destroy any air target, and the latter ...

        And the second, if simplified, is the same radar, only raised into the air, to a height of about ten kilometers. The radar, for which there is almost no problem of the radio horizon, is moved so far away that the attacking enemy aircraft simply can’t hide under it, which means that any attack becomes doomed, if not to guaranteed failure, then at least to huge problems.

        Ideally, modern air defense should look something like this: high in the air, at some distance from the border or front line, the AWACS plane is barring, within a radius of accessibility from it are several pairs of fighter jets, and on the ground, covering the most vulnerable directions or nodes, the air defense systems are on duty. Upon detection of attacking enemy aircraft, the AWACS aircraft transmits information about them to fighters and ground-based air defense systems, and then, depending on the situation, either allied aircraft attack the enemy or air defense systems fire at targets with their long-range missiles. In this case, the enemy's aviation finds itself between two fires - continuing to move at ultra-low altitudes, it finds itself in an extremely disadvantageous position in comparison with attacking air defense fighters. She has no altitude, no speed, no room to maneuver, so her chances in an alleged dogfight drop to almost zero. But if you go up, it turns out to be very vulnerable to powerful and long-range anti-aircraft missiles, and air defense systems, if they are not actively opposed, shoot very accurately at any available distances.

        Of course, this ideal scheme is not an axiom. For example, instead of an AWACS aircraft, there can be a modern interceptor with a powerful radar, such as the MiG-31B, and ground-based long-range air defense systems, such as the S-300 or S-400, for greater reliability can be covered with small air defense missile systems or air defense systems of the Tor-M2 or Pantsir -C1 ". But the main thing is always invariable - for the high combat stability of the entire air defense system, it is necessary that its ground and air components insure and complement each other.

        To our great regret, Russia inherited from the USSR a big problem - the inadequacy of one of the air defense components, namely, early warning aircraft. We have always had excellent air defense systems. Our fighters also showed themselves quite well. But on flying radars there has always been a serious lag - both quantitative and qualitative.

        It is difficult to say with what exactly this was connected. Probably, various military doctrines also affected, which in our case presupposed, first of all, military operations close to one’s own borders, and in the US - a global presence in all accessible points of the globe. The Americans could not rely on ground-based air defense systems - they were not mobile enough for them, the world gendarme needed "eyes" that could be thrown anywhere in the world after their aircraft in just a matter of hours.

        In addition, the United States traditionally relied on the fleet and needed radar patrol equipment that could protect it from sudden aircraft attacks. To do this, the US developed and put into service the DRLO deck aircraft, for example, the Grumman E-2 Hawkeye, capable of detecting a fighter target at a distance of more than 400 kilometers, and using passive detection means to detect an enemy radar at a distance twice as long. Nothing of the kind in the USSR could have been created in principle, simply due to the lack of classic aircraft carriers, as such.

        If we add to this the traditional lag of the USSR in electronics, the picture will turn out to be rather sad. Nevertheless, realizing the importance of this type of aviation, the Soviet leadership tried to rectify the situation. So, in 1958, it was decided to create the first in the USSR carrier aircraft of the AWACS facilities. The task was entrusted to the Tupolev Design Bureau, and I must say that it was completed in a fairly short time.

        The aircraft received the designation Tu-126. Initially, it was planned to make it on the basis of the newest, at that time, strategic bomber Tu-95, but during the design it turned out that the civilian Tu-114 is optimal for this purpose. The Liana complex, developed at the Moscow Research Institute of Instrument Engineering (now the Vega concern), was installed on the carrier. The dimensions and carrying capacity of the Tu-114 made it possible to place additional radio equipment for reconnaissance and communications on the Tu-126. And in general, the plane turned out to be quite good for its time, except for the usual problems for the Soviet engineering school, such as a disregard for the operators of the complex, who almost stalled in flight from the engines running nearby, and sometimes received not weak electric shocks from the working panels. which build up static electricity.
        1. Grading
          Grading 20 July 2020 21: 18 New
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          In 1985, the Tu-126 was replaced by the A-50, the new AWACS aircraft built on the basis of the Il-76 military transport aircraft. Instead of the "Liana" complex, the "Shmel" complex was installed on it. And as a replacement for the previous model, it was very good ... But in comparison with the American competitor, the Boeing E-3 Sentry, weaknesses immediately appeared, mainly related to the emerging strong gap in the electronics. Thus, the detection range of a fighter-type target in the A-50 was approximately 300 kilometers, while the E-3 Sentry saw a much less visible cruise missile from a distance of 400 km. Lastly, the A-50 had problems at all - targets with low RCS flying against the background of the earth were poorly seen by the new radar. If we add to this that the A-50 appeared about 10 years later than the American, the gap becomes completely catastrophic ...

          We add that quantitatively we are behind the Americans too. Now our "potential ally" operates more than forty Boeing E-3 Sentry of the most modern modifications. We have only 9 vehicles in service, four of which are the modernized version of the A-50U. The latter, by the way, should not mislead us - modernization is based on the Bumblebee-2 complex, which, although better than its predecessor, outperforms it by only 15–20 percent in terms of aggregate characteristics.

          The situation was supposed to be corrected by the A-100 Premier complex, the development of which began back in 2004. They planned to launch it into mass production in 2015, but, as usual, “something went wrong,” and endless “right shifts” began on the deadlines for the delivery of the new aircraft. In 2017, Sergei Shoigu, Minister of Defense, announced that the Premier would be ready in 2020. But this deadline turned out to be not the final one - this year it turned out that the deadlines were again shifted, this time, to 2024.

          The reasons for the transfers are called different each time, but with a high degree of certainty it can be argued that the matter is in the sanctions imposed against Russia by some foreign powers. First of all, these sanctions affected electronics, which, as you know, are still doing very badly in our country. Alas, our designers before the start of the Ukrainian crisis very famously put advanced Western components into their projects, which affected a wide variety of projects, including defense ones. As practice shows, import substitution in high-tech industries is most difficult, if at all. Against this background, delays in the delivery of such a serious defense project as the AWACS A-100 Premier airplane look very logical.

          At the same time, it should be noted that the well-known characteristics of the new aircraft, or rather, its radar system, look very impressive. From what the sources have at their disposal, the following should be especially noted: the range of target detection of the “fighter” type will reach (or slightly surpass) 700 kilometers. The complex will be equipped with a radar with an active phased antenna array (the long-awaited AFAR), and will be able to simultaneously track up to 300 air, ground and sea targets.

          Control (air command post) and target designation functions will also be implemented. Together, this will give the Russian army a very necessary combat unit, capable of literally cementing air defense in any threatened area. Just imagine a radar capable, being above Moscow, at the same time controlling the airspace in the sky over Minsk, Kiev, St. Petersburg and Saratov. It is clear that this is in ideal conditions, and yet ... And not just to see what is happening there, but also to coordinate the actions of their aircraft, to issue target designations, to aim long-range air-to-air missiles at the target ...

          According to some estimates, if the Premier project can be brought to mass production with the declared characteristics, we will finally be able to overcome more than half a century behind the Americans in this critical air defense segment. And that means that both our fighter aircraft and our best in the world (without quotes) air defense systems will get literally a second wind ...

          If ... Everything depends on this word. Unfortunately, we cannot judge how difficult everything is with the replacement of imported components - the secrecy is of the highest level. It is only known that with the introduction of international sanctions, the Wassenaar Agreement, which replaced the notorious CoCom (Coordinating Committee for Multilateral Export Controls, CoCom) of the Cold War period, was very seriously tightened precisely in the area of ​​control over the export of microelectronics to Russia. If earlier, before the sanctions, manufacturers only notified the appropriate authority about the planned delivery of various electronic components to Russia, now they are required to obtain permission for each batch of such products shipped to the Russian Federation. Of course, anything that can be connected in any way with the defense industry, navigation, aircraft manufacturing, the nuclear industry, and so on, is under the most severe ban and cannot receive such a license. Possible ways of circumventing restrictions are also monitored, in particular, re-export through third countries.

          The new rules were tightened even more recently, on June 20 of this year. Then the new rules of the Bureau of Industry and Security of the US Department of Commerce came into force, tightening the export of "sensitive" technologies to a number of states, including Russia, China and Iran. The simplified customs clearance regime for "civilian" microelectronics was also abolished, and our special services also used this loophole to transport some important components.

          And if this problem can still be solved, the problem of quantity will still remain. The base aircraft of the A-100 "Premier" complex, the Il-76MD-90A, is produced by the Ulyanovsk aircraft plant. The plane is excellent, but this is both a blessing and a problem at the same time - it is simultaneously in demand by both military transport aviation and "strategists" as a base for creating a flying refueling tanker, and now also for creating an AWACS aircraft. But there is a small problem - we are currently producing three pieces of Il-76MD-90A a year.

          Well, as "small" ... Colossal, in fact. It can be solved, but at the expense of the same, that is, colossal, effort. And not right away.

          Therefore, we will believe. Believe in import substitution and that the stars converge. And then, perhaps, to our common satisfaction ...

          But this, as the youth now says, is "not accurate" ...
          https://newizv.ru/article/general/12-07-2020/premiera-zatyagivaetsya-pochemu-rossiya-ne-vvodit-v-stroy-letayuschiy-radar
          1. vVvAD
            vVvAD 20 July 2020 23: 37 New
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            But this is not why our air defense systems are effective along the perimeter of the country's territory. 10 DROLiU aircraft in our spaces are not enough for this - they will have to fly continuously, illuminating the low-altitude situation, and not the fact that it will be enough, not to mention other tasks. This is not necessary - there are ZGRLS for this. But for additional reconnaissance and control center for detected threats, it is already possible to raise AWACS or MiG-31, depending on the situation. Only now no one will transmit the signal of the ZGRLS or our AWACS to the Syrian and Libyan air defense systems, and it is unlikely that their national air defense systems are capable of this.
      2. sivuch
        sivuch 21 July 2020 09: 03 New
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        To somehow reduce the severity of the problem, modern air defense systems are equipped with radars on a telescopic boom
        Yeah, and also zurki get active heads + external control center. Expensive, really
      3. Pavel73
        Pavel73 21 July 2020 11: 14 New
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        In order to make such a maneuver, the attacking aircraft must know in advance the exact location of the air defense system. After all, if the air defense system does not see the aircraft located under the radio horizon, then the aircraft does not see the air defense system, for the same reason. Moreover, the air defense system is not one and only machine. This is a command post, and a radar, and launchers, and decoys (inflatable dummies, for example). And all these objects are distributed over the surface of the earth, many are camouflaged (including in the radio range), and many have sufficient mobility to manage to get out of the strike of the aircraft, which was detected by the air defense system radar even BEFORE it went under the radio horizon. No, it is not at all easy to deal with a ground-based air defense system.
    6. YOUR
      YOUR 21 July 2020 05: 21 New
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      I slightly disagree. The article is not slightly pessimistic, but slightly smoothed and optimistic. What's new in our armaments over the past decades, but nothing. Diligently smoothed AKM or RPK, Yarygin's pistol, which was immediately sent for revision from the shooter. For the rest of the equipment and weapons we see only at parades and we read victorious reports in the media.
    7. max702
      max702 21 July 2020 16: 49 New
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      As you can see, there are two big problems, namely, there are no boards for equipping with equipment (solvable) and the second there are no components for this equipment .. this one cannot be solved at a jump, the equipment and technologies we will not be sold from China to buy (he has them also not) because this is not a mobile phone .. From this, a disappointing conclusion, if a miracle does not happen, to catch up in this area is practically impossible, since this requires investing in science and technology, which will cost decades and trillions of NOT rubles .. We do not have such resources as well as time ..
      rs: Only a miracle such as switching from lamps to semiconductors can help .. What's with Rofar and quantum electronics?
  2. Free wind
    Free wind 20 July 2020 06: 06 New
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    Cognitive of course, if all true. The first figure seems a little fantastic. Power station on Avenger, megawatts. This is 1000 kilowatts, imagine what kind of generator should be there. As if tsifirka should be reduced.
    1. DimanC
      DimanC 20 July 2020 06: 43 New
      +7
      There it was about pulse power. This is easier to achieve. The question is what is the average power.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 20 July 2020 07: 11 New
        +4
        Pulse power, it remains, as a rule, a given power, here are temporary matters, in terms of accumulation and output by the power plant. Well, the selection and processing of information.
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 20 July 2020 13: 40 New
        +1
        In any case, there should be a generator, at least 100 kilowatts, accumulator batteries, and capacitor banks. And besides the antenna, pulse generators and receivers are needed, and all this on lamps and transformers, I don’t think that all this will fit into the torpedo bomber, of such power. I looked at the pictures, and now the radars are stationary or on ships 1-5 megawatts, well, there are more places there. I am of course an absolute layman. I just know about physics. But even a magnetron in a microwave oven, 1,5 kW, is quite a weighty thing, if anyone disassembled it, they probably noticed it.
    2. dauria
      dauria 20 July 2020 12: 20 New
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      Informative, of course, if everything is true.


      it rotated not inside a mushroom fairing, but together with a fairing, which was not in the world either before the Tu-126 or after.
      What is the truth? Prior to that, a grille of director elements on the E-2 rotated in the mushroom fairing. After - a segment of the parabola on e-2, e-3. The "innovation" was a parabola segment in a fairing of this size.

      Comparison of the E-3 with the A-50 does not stand up to criticism - not only is the data from the ceiling, so they change with each modification.
      It is clear that Skomorokhov "saddled" the magazines of the 90s "Aviation and Time", "Aviation and Cosmonautics" and others, but at least let him cite a list of sources for the sake of decency. For example like this https://royallib.com/genre/transport_i_aviatsiya/
  3. gregor6549
    gregor6549 20 July 2020 06: 12 New
    +8
    I do not know that Premier is ready for production there, but from the point of view of technology it would be a big mistake if the Premier has the same rotating "saucer" that was installed on the A50.
    A modern AWACS and U aircraft should be built on the basis of radars using fixed inline / conformal phased antenna arrays, similar to those used in the American Boeing 737 AEW & C or the Israeli Gulfstream G550 EITAM.http: //nevskii-bastion.ru/gulfstream-g550 -eitam
    Such radars are much more resistant to electronic warfare, easier and cheaper to manufacture and operate. In particular, they are not as sensitive to low temperatures as the bearings of the E3 Sentry rotating antennas, which often forces to reduce the antenna rotation speed by 2 times (for example, from 6 rpm to 3 rpm) and, accordingly, reduce the update rate of radar information issued by the radar . And this is not a greyhound greyhound from the point of view of the effectiveness of the entire system of AWACS and U.
    It would also be nice if a set of means of protecting it from anti-radar equipment, for example, towed simulators of radiation from the main radar, were introduced into the Premier's equipment. capable of diverting anti-radar missiles at safe distances from the AWACS and U aircraft, as well as active protection equipment operating on the principle of modern KAZ tanks.
    1. bayard
      bayard 20 July 2020 09: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: gregor6549
      from the point of view of technology, it would be a big mistake if the "Premier" is with the same rotating "saucer" that was put on the A50.

      There will be the same fairing as in the A-50, only under it will be (according to old publications) three AFAR canvases and the canvases will be motionless. Carrying a board on the back is the lot of smaller AWACS aircraft, a two-way AFAR will not be able to provide all-round visibility, and therefore there will be very large dead zones in front and behind. For barrage along the front line or border, this is still more tolerable, but when you need a full-angle illumination - a problem.
      Somewhere a year ago, information slipped through that the AWACS aircraft were going to be built on the basis of the Tu-214 - as an addition to the future A-100 fleet, which were originally announced to be built in the amount of 50 pieces. ... now, when the unrealizability of these dreams is obvious (because at least 50 tankers were planned on the basis of the same Il-76ML-90A and about 200 units of clean transport aircraft for the RF Armed Forces), apparently they decide to build a smaller number of A-100 , or simply place the A-100 equipment on the Tu-214 (there should be enough space and carrying capacity). But it is not yet clear (there are many things unclear) whether the antenna will be in the form of a mushroom, or still a "board" ...

      The fact that delays in the production of the A-100 only in the lack of components do not look plausible, because there was plenty of time both for import substitution and for finding workarounds for acquisition. There is for this the same China, to which we are building an early warning system, we are selling Su-35S and S-400, rocket engines and technologies for the production of these (with reciprocal agreements on the supply of an electronic component base of the "military-space" class.
      And the excuses that the Il-76MD-90A itself is still being produced piece by piece is also not an excuse for the absence (practically absence) of AWACS aircraft in the Armed Forces. About 20 (twenty) Soviet-built A-50s remained from the Soviet Union. These are gliders with unused resource. Drive them through repair / restoration, remotorization, replace equipment, and now - a relatively sufficient number of A-50Us for the first time ... but the modernization is proceeding at the rate of 1 (one) modernized aircraft in 2,5 - 3 years. For modernization they start on ONE such board and torture it for three years ... concluding a contract for the modernization of ONLY one such aircraft! The company does not have the ability and funds to pre-order components for the next board ahead of time and is waiting (!!!) for a new contract ONLY after the previous one has been handed over.
      This is sabotage!
      And sabotage.

      There are NO other explanations.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 20 July 2020 09: 27 New
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        Quote: bayard
        This is sabotage!
        And sabotage.

        There are NO other explanations.

        There is. “A helpful fool is more dangerous than an enemy.” Krylov I.A.
        1. bayard
          bayard 20 July 2020 11: 47 New
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          This is not the case .
          Such programs - the creation of a sufficient fleet of AWACS aircraft, should be under the control of at least (!) The Minister of Defense, and, at the optimum, under the control of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. For the absence of such aircraft makes our VKS incapable of at least repelling massive cruise missile launches, controlling the air and surface space over the waters of the Arctic Ocean and the Pacific theater of operations (there is simply no and it is impossible to create a continuous radar field at low and medium altitudes).
          Therefore, the absence of such aircraft in service with the Aerospace Forces makes them only conditionally (!) Combat-ready - to control the air operations of our Aerospace Forces, give them target designation, direct them to the target without turning on their own radar until reaching the line of attack, at the moment there is simply NOTHING.

          Roughly the same situation with tankers, reconnaissance aircraft, PLO aircraft ... MRA ...
          And to blame everything on "frivolity", "helpful fools" and "objective reasons" ... is not serious.
      2. kjhg
        kjhg 20 July 2020 12: 06 New
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        Quote: bayard
        This is sabotage!
        And sabotage.

        There are NO other explanations.

        Why do you not admit that this is the most ordinary "effective management" that flourishes in the USC, and in the UAC, and in the UEC, and in Roskosmos, and in the country as a whole. They are all led by people faithful to one body, so absolutely everything is forgiven to them. The most vivid example is A. Serdyukov. He not only escaped prison, but also saved his woman from this, and now holds a high post in Russian Helicopters. If you do not see this, then you simply do not want to understand the cause of the problem and are just looking for a switchman.
        1. bayard
          bayard 20 July 2020 12: 20 New
          -1
          Quote: kjhg
          If you do not see this, then you simply do not want to understand the cause of the problem and are just looking for a switchman.

          Come on, come on.
          Quote: bayard
          Without AWACS planes our aviation is BLIND.
          And therefore, its combat readiness can only be assessed as conditional ... or partial.
          And before all this disgrace, neither the Minister of Defense nor the Supreme Commander-in-Chief have any business or interest!
          Why
          If these gentlemen don't get their hands on such critical things ... why wonder at the rest?
          Bardak?

          This topic is TOO critical to look for switchmen.
          It (this program of providing the Aerospace Forces with AWACS aircraft in sufficient quantity) simply MUST be under the control of the Minister of Defense, Chief of General Staff and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
          If this is not the case, all of the above are worthless - they are, like in one children's fairy tale, arm the army with glass swords - "fragile? But how beautiful ...".
          If they inflated prices for such aircraft with interest in their pockets, but nevertheless SUPPLIED them to the troops, everything could be forgiven, but they did EVERYTHING so that such aircraft were not in service.
          Therefore, there can be NO switchmen in this case.
          This is the direct and DIRECT fault of senior management.
          They just seem to have ... different goals. request
          1. kjhg
            kjhg 20 July 2020 12: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: bayard
            This is the direct and DIRECT fault of senior management.
            They just seem to have ... other goals

            I agree with you yes
          2. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 20 July 2020 12: 47 New
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            Their only purpose is to pump money from the country, to transfer them and their family to the west. Therefore, the interests of the West must not be harmed. For the sake of this, we spend money on useless projects, instead of the necessary ones. Thus, weakening the defenses. We start wars with the fraternal peoples (Ukraine, Georgia), so that we would definitely not have united not when already. We spend resources for waging wars in the interests of the United States and the West in Syria. They create conditions for the birth of smart, talented children, but that would not stay in this country. We compensate for the shortage of simple labor resources by migration from Central Asia (how many of them are Islamists with whom we are allegedly fighting in Syria?)
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 July 2020 06: 30 New
    +5
    Novel! You are right in many ways. The saddest thing in this situation is that no shift (jerk) in the direction of improving the situation is not expected until 2030, or until 2050 (2036).
    “A DAY HAS PASSED - AND HELLS WITH HIM!” - the motto of the Russian leadership. What success can we hope for, and what heights can we expect from those who did not fulfill the plans of 2012? Who every year "rubs" the population a mantra about an imminent breakthrough just to stay in the Kremlin, so as not to end up in the trash, where all the successes, achievements and advantages of the USSR over the capitalist system were dumped with such frenzy.
    For me it is simply UNCERTAIN who and why is preventing us from developing industrial production and the domestic economy, BUT even in a pandemic it allows us to withdraw from the country the tens of billions of dollars that everyone needs so much?
    1. alma
      alma 20 July 2020 06: 58 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      For me, it is simply UNCERTAINABLE who and why is preventing us from developing industrial production

      In my opinion, the lack of responsibility in some top positions in government hinders. For example, Khristenko, being the Minister of Industry, and who had a hand in the collapse of the aviation industry, safely transferred to another position. And such examples are not isolated.
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 20 July 2020 07: 15 New
        +4
        This is not the same Khristenko who, together with Kiriyenko and other "Komsomol members", began his career with the organization of Komsomol lotteries, that is, scammers, and then became one of Yeltsin's closest associates? If he is, then why be surprised. If not, then I'm sorry.
        1. alma
          alma 20 July 2020 07: 19 New
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          Unfortunately, I don't know anything about that period of his biography. And you can't sew rumors to business.
        2. Essex62
          Essex62 20 July 2020 09: 28 New
          -1
          But Komsomol members cannot call this bourgeois one with a war. Even in quotes.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 20 July 2020 09: 37 New
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            Why? The modern Russian bourgeoisie was Komsomol, they have a document confirming this, many were members of the CPSU. The current real masters of the main sectors of the economy with the shoulder straps of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. There are very few private companies left, there are practically no "liberals" in politics. Everything as you want only "patriots" and "centrists".
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 20 July 2020 09: 48 New
              -1
              Because they were not communists. But maybe in childhood, the October Revolution and the pioneers. Although they are unlikely to be real pioneers, the conscious age is already, selfishness was already coming out. And here are the surrogate patriots and centrists. I wrote about degenerates from that time. What has grown in 30 years has grown. This is a problem, a future headache.
            2. gregor6549
              gregor6549 20 July 2020 12: 24 New
              +4
              I will add that the privatization process began precisely with the Komsomol organizations, or more precisely, with the so-called. Centers for Scientific and Technical Youth Creativity (NTTM), which were allowed to engage in household activities and were provided with a number of tax and other benefits. It was through the NTTM centers that many dishonest leaders of industrial enterprises began to make their first millions and launder money "earned by back-breaking labor."
              The money-making mechanism was simple as a rake, but very effective.
              The head of the enterprise, under which the NTTM center was created, passed some state orders through these NTTMs, where the state funds allocated for these orders were quietly sawed between the heads of enterprises and especially trusted "Komsomol members" - the heads of these centers. Of course, NTTM centers were not the only "sawmills", but I started with them, and many leaders of such structures later became the head of the leadership of factories, plants and ships, as well as ministries and departments. Moreover, the revolutionary Yeltsin needed a young energetic team and it was quickly formed from such former "Komsomol volunteers"
              And now we have what we have, and in perplexity ask "how could this have happened"? And so it could.
              Over time, the need to use NTTM centers disappeared, since restrictions were removed from the head of the enterprise that did not allow him to combine the post of head of state structures with entrepreneurial activity. But the experience, as well as the initial capital, was gained and the privatization process went on an increasing scale and already without the fig leaves, which were the NTTM centers. Instead, other fig leaves appeared, like Berezovsky and Co., with which the process of cutting the state budget accelerated even more and became even more "effective and fruitful."
              Naturally, in the activities of the centers, NTTMs were also accepted as normal, i.e. naive Komsomol members without quotation marks, who were not averse to earning an extra penny to their salary. But they hardly guessed that the main task of the NTTM centers was not so much creativity as cutting the budget and laundering dirty money.
              And the last thing. In many comments on VO, with or without reason, the topic of cutting the budget in the camp of a potential adversary is discussed. But here advice from the fable of I.A. Krylova "The Mirror and the Monkey:" Isn't it better to turn around, godfather? "
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 July 2020 07: 29 New
    +6
    The number can be increased only by attracting civilian aircraft - type B-737. This article has not yet said about the "small" AWACS of NATO countries ... there we have nothing to offer at all.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus 20 July 2020 08: 32 New
      +6
      In general, the author touched upon the possibilities of partners only at the edge. There is also a separate naval AWACS, and many, there is generally departmental AWACS, say, at customs. There are experiments (so far) on the use of the F-35 in the AWACS mode for the strike group.

      So the situation on AWACS is more or less about nothing. And if there is no AWACS, there is no modern air combat, in the style of Medvedka 19. What can we say about the G5, which are conceptually built at work in the area of ​​radar coverage and guidance with AWACS.
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 20 July 2020 07: 53 New
    -3
    for the Russian Air Force, the topic is necessary ... BUT ... we have such a direct "ah needs" in this class of complexes and it was not (even the Arctic zone was closed by ground detection means) because we do not fight outside the territory of the USSR / Russia in such a volume as the Americans and their other retinue ... and the Premier will still be ...
    what is really missing (well, if you still want to aim at aircraft carriers, the value for the country of which is very controversial) is such deck equipment ... without it, the effectiveness of using an aircraft carrier is doubtful ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 July 2020 08: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: silberwolf88
      for the Russian Air Force, the topic is necessary ... BUT ... we have such a direct "ah needs" in this class of complexes and it was not (even the Arctic zone was closed by ground detection means) because we do not fight outside the territory of the USSR / Russia in such a volume as the Americans and their other retinue ...

      That is, we do not need to detect targets that are beyond the radio horizon (30-50 km) for ground-based radars? The same CDs going to the MV and PMV? However... what
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 20 July 2020 09: 01 New
        -6
        We have REB! Kraukha will solve all problems!
      2. sivuch
        sivuch 21 July 2020 09: 08 New
        0
        Suppose there is still a ZGRLS. True, they have problems in the north.
    2. bayard
      bayard 20 July 2020 12: 06 New
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      Quote: silberwolf88
      for the Russian Air Force, the topic is necessary ... BUT ... we have such a direct "ah needs" in this class of complexes and there was no (even the Arctic zone was closed by ground detection means)

      I wonder what means (ground) closed the Arctic zone? And at what altitudes does this zone exist?
      At what altitudes do the enemy's CDs fly? And how are you going to find them?
      And how are things with us with the radar field in the Pacific direction? From Kamchatka to Primorye inclusive?
      In the Kuril ridge area?
      The Sea of ​​Okhotsk, in the waters of which our submarine missile carriers are carrying out combat deployment? How to reveal the work of enemy anti-submarine aviation in these waters? When does Japan alone have more than a hundred anti-submarine aircraft? And this is not to mention the opening of a possible raid of tactical and carrier-based aircraft of the enemy, reaching the launch lines of their strategic aviation ...
      Without AWACS planes our aviation is BLIND.
      And therefore, its combat readiness can only be assessed as conditional ... or partial.
      And before all this disgrace, neither the Minister of Defense nor the Supreme Commander-in-Chief have any business or interest!
      Why
      If these gentlemen don't get their hands on such critical things ... why wonder at the rest?
      Bardak?
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 20 July 2020 12: 34 New
        -3
        Russia cannot create modern radio-electronic systems on air carriers. There are no own technologies in microelectronics, there is no access to strangers. From here "love" to ground systems. Since ground-based electronic systems are extremely capricious and ineffective in the world, they are little developed, therefore we are like leaders in them. This situation is extremely dangerous. For what made AWACS a medal equal to the capabilities of the western end of the 80s, you will not receive a medal, but for "having no analogues in the world" Krasukha you will receive a medal, a prize, and an increase.
        1. bayard
          bayard 20 July 2020 13: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Russia cannot create modern radio-electronic systems on air carriers.

          Come on !
          Are the radars of modern Russian fighters made of "manure and sticks" molded? Or is the carrying capacity of the Il-76MD-90A so small that the equipment based on not the most modern components will become overwhelming?
          Even with the modernization of the A-50 to the A-50U, so much free space was freed up that it was possible to create a rest room on board for part of the crew and the crew, and to increase the fuel supply. And the IL-76MD-90A will have a higher lifting capacity than the usual IL-76.
          Quote: Grazdanin
          There are no technologies in microelectronics, there is no access to strangers.

          There are none of our own (all the required assortment), but there is an agreement with China on the transfer of space and military technologies - we supply them with rocket engines and technology for their production, and they supply us with radio-electronic components of the military-space class - just what we and it is necessary. Satellites are already being assembled on these components. And the A-100? Who prevents to sculpt on this component base? After all, we are assembling the Chinese and the early warning system.
          So all that is needed is there, or there is an opportunity to purchase.
          Quote: Grazdanin
          From here "love" to terrestrial systems.

          belay ... what was that? Ground-based air defense systems are the basis, base and classic. Find me at least one state that will rely only on airborne AWACS systems to provide its air defense?
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Since ground-based radio-electronic systems are extremely capricious and inefficient in the world they are not being developed much,

          Another pearl. laughing Ground radars mean you are capricious, but air lol top of reliability and perfection ...?
          Why, then, does the United States have about half of the Sentry park constantly unprepared? If not more?
          Where is their vaunted reliability?
          Domestic radar technology, since the days of the Union, was famous for JUST high reliability and reliability in operation (depending on care, of course). In this we were, and there is something to be proud of.
          The radio component base on which the A-50 was made was no different from our ground-based systems, it was either 155 or 133 series (now I forgot, I’ll clarify in the evening). There is no component hunger for the release of modern S-400 and S-350 air defense systems. And ground-based, mobile radars are also produced by the industry without any problems. As well as a number of other high-tech weapons systems.
          So with the A-100, the problem is not in the components, but in the will of the leaders of the RF Armed Forces. And it is the top management.
          It's not "Poseidon" to scare America, you have to work here.
          Quote: Grazdanin
          For what made the AWAC equal in capabilities to the western end of the 80s did not get a medal

          Did the "Sentry" of the 80s have a fixed AFAR under the fairing? Or do you judge the characteristics of the detection range? So more than the range that was achieved then (650 km for a fighter, 800 km for a bomber) we don't need. The Sentry has already surpassed the A-50U in terms of the number of targets being tracked, increasing this parameter does not make much sense ... but they continue to increase.
          So we have all the opportunities to resolve these issues.
          There is NO STATE state will and RESPONSIBILITY for the assigned business.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 20 July 2020 13: 58 New
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            Quote: bayard
            Are the radars of modern Russian fighters made of "manure and sticks" molded?

            Practically. They are exported to the same India by the West, we still have not put the AFAR radar into the series, we fly on the Soviet reserve.
            Quote: bayard
            create a rest room on board for part of the crew and crew

            Well done of course, when there was an opportunity to buy in the west.
            Quote: bayard
            they supply us with radio-electronic components of the military-space class - exactly what we need

            Who told you that China has fundamentally better electronics? What is being done in China by Western companies and by the Chinese themselves, earth and sky.
            Quote: bayard
            Ground radars mean you are moody, but the airborne top of reliability and perfection ...?

            They themselves wrote, they themselves laughed. Moody about the location, weather conditions, terrain, etc.
            Quote: bayard
            Ground defense - this is the basis, base and classic

            For Russia. In the same US, air defense is carried out by fighters. Ground assets are mainly missile defense. In principle, there are a couple of dozen countries with normal air defense.
            1. bayard
              bayard 20 July 2020 14: 29 New
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              Quote: Grazdanin
              we still have not radar AFAR in a series, we fly on the Soviet backlog.

              Well, how can I say, nominally the Su-57 has already been adopted for service, and its "Belka" is quite up to par. In addition, do not forget about the new videoconferencing system - a suspended container "Sych" just with AFAR.
              Quote: Grazdanin
              Who told you that China has fundamentally better electronics? What is being done in China by Western companies and by the Chinese themselves, earth and sky.

              China simply has this component base, and the Russian Federation now has access to it - military satellites are already riveting on it, so you can get everything you need for the A-100. But of course you need to develop your production.
              Quote: Grazdanin
              They themselves wrote, they themselves laughed. Moody about the location, weather conditions, terrain, etc.

              What is it ? Ground radars are always located on the landscape lol what whims are there? Especially for weather conditions No. ... All radars are created for operating conditions from the far north to the conditions of equatorial Africa. Their TTZ includes ANY conditions of basing and work.
              Another thing is that there are closing angles and range restrictions for low-altitude targets, but here is the shape of the globe. request It's round.
              At the same time, over-the-horizon radars have recently become widespread, in which these questions have been removed (range for low-altitude), although this is already a decameter range and they are not particularly suitable for target designation.
              Quote: Grazdanin
              In that USA, air defense is carried out by fighters. Ground assets are mainly missile defense. In principle, a couple of dozen countries with normal air defense.

              Having a layered air defense is very expensive, but Russia is nowhere without it - geography obliges.
              But the United States has no special concern for air defense. As there are no serious opponents in the reach of their tactical aircraft. Therefore, the bet on fighters. And over-the-horizon radars. Even in the USA, AWACS flights are still not enough to cover all the needs of air defense - to keep the required number continuously in the air, your counterparts are not capable.
              But they did not have a continuous radar field even at medium altitudes, even in their best years.
            2. sivuch
              sivuch 21 July 2020 09: 13 New
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              For export to the same India, they go by Western,
              Excuse me - is not the Russian PFAR on the MKI?
    3. barin
      barin 20 July 2020 13: 23 New
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      The idea of ​​placing AWACS on aeronautical objects (airships) has also been discussed more than once.
  7. Kolka Semenov
    Kolka Semenov 20 July 2020 07: 57 New
    -6
    And where did the author get the numbers 15 and 25 years behind in microelectronics?
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 20 July 2020 08: 29 New
      +5
      Help
      The Government of Russia, by order No. 20-r of January 17, 2020, approved the Strategy for the Development of the country's Electronic Industry until 2030. The Strategy, prepared by the Ministry of Industry and Trade in accordance with the instruction of the President of Russia, was signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin the day after his appointment on January 16 2020. The document identifies key areas and tasks for the development of the industry, as well as sets targets for the domestic electronics industry for the coming decade.
      The strategy defines nine areas: “Scientific and technological development”, “Means of production”, “Industry standards”, “Human resources”, “Management”, “Cooperation”, “Industry information environment”, “Markets and products” and “Economic efficiency” ...
      As part of the strategy, by 2030, it is planned to create an industry that is competitive in foreign markets and produces high-tech products based on Russian developments. The Russian electronic industry should ensure the implementation of national projects and occupy a dominant position "in the domestic market of electronic products critical for national security, technological and economic development."

      It is expected that over a decade, the Russian industry will move away from the 130 nm process technology and more, which currently produce about 65% of products, and switch to a topology with 65-45 nm, 28 nm, 14-12 nm and 7-5 nm standards. At first, it is planned to release Russian products at foreign factories with the gradual transfer of production to Russia, including solid-state drives with rates of 25-30 nm and at least 96 layers, OLED displays of at least sixth generation, BiCMOS HBT, HEMT, pHEMT component base with norms of 65-45 nm, etc.
      In Russia, it is also planned to launch the production of photomasks with rates from 250 nm to 16-14 nm and less, a number of technologies to ensure a full cycle of production of modern radio electronic components in the country.
      The strategy involves the creation of Russian silicon factories with norms of 28 nm, 14-12 nm, 7-5 nm, working according to the foundry production business model - when the development and production of semiconductor products is carried out by various companies or business units, as well as factories with 65-45 nm standards for the production of microwave electronics, sensors and other modern industries.
      It is also expected to develop centers for collective design, bring industry standards in line with international requirements, develop national standards with subsequent transformation into international ones.
      The strategy also defines measures to train personnel and increase the attractiveness of the industry for young professionals. In the management sphere, it is planned to introduce an automated control system by the industry and a risk management system for the development of the industry. The formation of a sectoral information environment also implies the development of sectoral databases, registers of equipment and component base, and unification of information exchange means.

      Such plans, and what happens - see)
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 20 July 2020 09: 21 New
        +5
        Who will carry out these plans? There are very few private large companies, money is being withdrawn from Russia, and it is extremely dangerous to invest in the economy. Engineers, scientists are fleeing the country. Talented students from 3-4 courses move to the west to complete their studies. A terrible staff shortage in all the north where you need to "head" to work. Within half a year before the pandemic, 6 of my friends left the country.
        1. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 21 July 2020 09: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Talented students from 3-4 courses move to the west to complete their studies. A terrible personnel shortage in all the north where you need to "work" with your head. Within half a year before the pandemic, 6 of my friends left the country.


          Everything is 100% correct.
          I talked with the Dean of the Automotive and Tractor Faculty - I was looking for smart guys in applied development.
          Useless. If in Soviet times there was one intelligent student on the stream, now there is one intelligent student in 1-3 years.
          A Chinese engineer with a similar education and experience gets three times more than a Russian engineer.
          The element base in China for bridges, engines, gearboxes, pumps, hardware, seals is 2 orders of magnitude wider than in the Russian Federation. Order a hundred non-standard fasteners for production - a week. Everything is there for promising developments - take it and create, prototype, edit and release it into series.
          The customer asked for a tank with twice the capacity for a tracked chassis - yes, please - development in 2 days, ice lighting - from standard - 2 hours. It will take a month to remake the chassis, suspension and drive from metal to RMSh or to a reinforced caterpillar, even if it can be put into production right away.
          This is the level of engineering development.
    2. sivuch
      sivuch 21 July 2020 09: 14 New
      0
      from the ceiling, where else
  8. doktorkurgan
    doktorkurgan 20 July 2020 09: 08 New
    +3
    The problem of placing the antenna was originally solved: it did not rotate inside the mushroom-shaped cowl, but with the cowl, which the world had neither before nor after Tu-126.


    https://youtu.be/Id16Oci5WbE?t=164
    Video of the Sentry flight. Time interval 2: 44-5: 00 - you can repeatedly see how the entire radome of the radar antenna rotates.
  9. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 20 July 2020 09: 11 New
    +1
    If they make "Premier" in 2024, how many of them will be made in total? 2? 3? There is no difference between 0 and 3.
  10. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 20 July 2020 09: 22 New
    0
    They didn’t build IL-76 in Voronezh, but did TPOICH in Tashkent. Although it interferes with making the tanker on the IL-96 base and loading it with VASO work, although by the way, who cares about it in the Kremlin ...
  11. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 July 2020 10: 06 New
    -2
    The Tu-126 was not handled well - they could modernize and convert all Tu-114 decommissioned from the Civil Air Fleet into AWACS aircraft.
    1. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 21 July 2020 09: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      could modernize and convert all Tu-114 decommissioned from the Civil Air Fleet into AWACS aircraft.


      Are you joking?
      And how to introduce the spars for fastening the antenna complex into the load-bearing structure? It's easier to build a new plane than to rebuild a civilian one.
      And the fact that the glider flew its resource to fatigue cracks, that its airworthiness certificate was not extended?
      Not as easy as writing.
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 21 July 2020 18: 43 New
        0
        Dmitry Vladimirovich (Dmitry Vladimirovich),

        On Tu-114 - by this time most of the cars had flown 15000 hours, cracks appeared in the power panels of the engines. It was decided not to engage in modifications and repairs, since by that time the turboprop machines were already morally obsolete and the much more modern Il-62 firmly occupied the niche of long-haul transportation.
        15000 hours, you must agree, is not so much for an AWACS aircraft.
  12. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 July 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    Quote: alex aircraft
    They didn’t build IL-76 in Voronezh, but did TPOICH in Tashkent. Although it interferes with making the tanker on the IL-96 base and loading it with VASO work, although by the way, who cares about it in the Kremlin ...

    The idea of ​​converting the Il-96 into a tanker was already in the air, but for some reason it was abandoned.
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 20 July 2020 12: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Pavel57
      The idea of ​​converting the Il-96 into a tanker was already in the air, but for some reason it was abandoned.

      Considered too costly.
    2. bayard
      bayard 20 July 2020 12: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel57
      The idea of ​​converting the Il-96 into a tanker was already in the air, but for some reason it was abandoned.

      It turned out to be too expensive, and Voronezh is not ready for the serial production of SUCH aircraft right now - they are torturing the first pair of Il-96-400 ... they torture for a long time, and even then for the presidential squadron. But whether they will be able to resume the serial assembly ... it is not yet clear at all - there are no frames. And those that are - run away from low salaries and uncertainty.
      We need serious state programs for the revival of the aviation industry, training, capacity utilization, solving social issues of employees ...
      The modern government is ... not interested.
      1. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 21 July 2020 09: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: bayard
        We need serious state programs for the revival of the aviation industry, training, capacity utilization, solving social issues of employees ...
        The modern government is ... not interested.


        He (the authorities) thought it was simple - they created the UAC.
        And if it doesn't work - there is a lot of money, little sense.
        Efficiency is not a familiar concept. Therefore, performance raises questions.
        1. bayard
          bayard 21 July 2020 12: 50 New
          +3
          We need to train specialists. And not only engineers, but also technologists, welders, fitters and fitters, etc., etc., etc.
          These trained specialists need to be employed in their specialty immediately after graduation. Therefore, these jobs must be created.
          If jobs are created, then these enterprises should have a stable order and perspective for the development of production.
          All these young professionals need not only to be employed, but also their salaries must meet their expectations. Otherwise they will scatter.
          These young specialists need not only to find jobs and provide a decent salary, but also to provide housing.
          Mortgage ... better for the state. not to offer programs - the young man came to a new place and ... he is offered ... a mortgage (!), and maybe in a year or two or three he will decide to leave, transfer to another enterprise in the industry, or simply tie up with an unpromising in his opinion occupation ... And then what? Rental apartment ? Young specialist?
          Therefore, such strategic enterprises should have their own housing stock to provide for their employees. Especially the young ones.
          Otherwise, there is no way to lure specialists from capitals and developed centers to remote regions.
          Moreover, as a rule, capitalism, "cost cutting", "optimization" do not attract "long rubles" now.
          We need comprehensive government programs.
          As in the USSR.
          But the new "aristocrats" are ... not interested.
          Easier - buy ready-made.
          And if they don’t sell, whine about sanctions and do NOTHING.
          1. Hexenmeister
            Hexenmeister 21 July 2020 13: 36 New
            0
            All these young professionals need not only to be employed, but also their salaries must meet their expectations. Otherwise they will scatter.
            But then the salary of specialists with experience should be even higher, otherwise the experienced will scatter, and without them the young will be completely zero!
            1. bayard
              bayard 21 July 2020 14: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Hexenmeister
              But then the salary of specialists with experience should be even higher, otherwise the experienced will scatter, and without them the young will be completely zero!

              Aren't we seeing this?
              They scatter if there is somewhere, or if age still contributes to mobility. Businesses with orders are in a fever. Either they pile up an order for an enterprise that is not yet ready for it, or vice versa - they drag the order to the last, and when they are born, the specialists have already fled to where stability is paid.
              It was the Soviet Union that trained specialists in abundance, and for the first 10, and even 20 years, while they were specialists, they were alive and could work, treated them as a "natural resource", which, like "the forest grows by itself."
              And then ... oops ... and the specialists ran out.
              And no new ones were prepared.
              And those who were being prepared fled from the lack of food to more lucrative places.
              And those that remained in production, or just from the training bench, did not have time to learn from the "bison" - there is no continuity.
              And in such industries as Aircraft, Shipbuilding, Space industry, loss of continuity ...
              ... And rockets fall, or just don't fly.
              And there is no one to build planes.
              And even design.
              How many years have already been trying to launch the construction of the Il-76MD-90A in Ulyanovsk ... So there they also did not want to revise the prices for products for 10 years - they twisted their hands, despite all the past waves of inflation.
              Will young specialists stay in such industries?
              But these axioms are not known to the "new aristocracy" and "traders in power". They have money and power, and therefore, Mind is NOT NECESSARY.
              request
              Alas.
  13. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 July 2020 10: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    The number can be increased only by attracting civilian aircraft - type B-737. This article has not yet said about the "small" AWACS of NATO countries ... there we have nothing to offer at all.

    It is necessary to revive the Yak-44 project.
  14. Andylw
    Andylw 20 July 2020 11: 09 New
    0
    "We have five A-50 and four A-50U in service"
    Roman, correct the mistake - 6 A-50U are in the ranks, the seventh will be transferred in 2021
  15. iouris
    iouris 20 July 2020 11: 50 New
    +2
    "On the brink" or is it "beyond"?
    There is a well-known anecdote about the Soviet electronic clock: it is very beautiful, only a battery the size of a large suitcase.
  16. Operator
    Operator 20 July 2020 12: 23 New
    -2
    The A-100 is a super-expensive junk with a super-heavy radar and an ultra-close aircraft carrier that no one needs.

    To ensure the detection of low-flying cruise missiles with an RCS of 0,1 square meters and the launches of small aircraft missiles, gliding bombs and UAVs (not to mention their stealth carriers such as F-35) in the 7x24 mode, it is necessary to make an AWACS aircraft based on MS- 21 with conformal APAR, which has not yet been observed.
  17. borys
    borys 20 July 2020 13: 02 New
    +1
    It would be better if Mr. Skomorokhov did not undertake this topic, since
    understands little about it. Hence the blunders. In
    First, the IL-76 was never produced in Voronezh. There was such
    idea in the late 90s, but it was quickly abandoned. But not that
    the main thing. Work on the complex went actively in the second half
    70s. It was then that the Americans began to post in
    Europe their cruise missiles. Their main feature is flight
    at very low altitudes, which makes it impossible to detect them
    ground radar (in any case, at any
    actual distances). From here the main thing becomes clear
    the purpose of the complex is early detection
    cruise missiles. This implies the following task - guidance
    on them means of interception. There were other tasks. But, said
    one poet:
    -Walking can be slimy on other stones.
    -So, about what's close, we'd better keep silent.
  18. Vlad Malkin
    Vlad Malkin 20 July 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    Yes, all this has been taking too long ...
  19. mi ah
    mi ah 20 July 2020 13: 51 New
    0
    They didn’t do 76 in Voronezh; all of them were made in Tashkent
  20. Al Asad
    Al Asad 20 July 2020 15: 23 New
    -1
    Interesting article.
    The most interesting thing in it again raises the topic of the Russian aircraft industry. Such a pace of construction of some samples in our country is just a tear of shame
  21. fa2998
    fa2998 20 July 2020 16: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: bayard
    (because at least 50 tankers were still planned on the basis of the same Il-76ML-90A and about 200 units of clean transport aircraft for the RF Armed Forces)

    And this is with a plant capacity of 3 (THREE) per year! And more AWACS? Yes, these are plans for 100 years.
  22. borys
    borys 20 July 2020 18: 04 New
    0
    In quiet times (approximately mid-80s) at TAPOiCH
    produced up to 4 pieces of A-50 per year. In industrial cooperation
    dozens of factories participated. A large piece of equipment
    complex was produced by factories on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR.
  23. Interdum_silentium_volo
    Interdum_silentium_volo 21 July 2020 00: 37 New
    -1
    The author is a little confused, half of the world, even the United States itself buys electronics in Asia, this is China, Singapore .............. and these guys both sold and sell. The question is not in the element base, the question is that each year new requirements. Today the military wants 50 players and 30 huigriks, and tomorrow we are talking about 100 games and 90 huigriks, and it would be good to 20 sugriks ... and so on.
    And there, over the hill, it is put on stream, the conveyor belt ............... and we have a piece manual assembly.
  24. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 21 July 2020 09: 09 New
    +1
    In the absence of competition, there is no incentive for development.
    As part of a state corporation, it is no better than the military-industrial complex-USSR: yes, concentrated efforts and at the same time a relaxed attitude - there are no competitors, there is no interest, there are no fears of punishment either, well, they will be removed from the position of the head - a new one will be installed until he is in the know.
    What kind of breakthrough technologies are there, in the absence of our own modern element base.

    They support a domestic manufacturer by buying a "miracle Elbrus" kit for 300000r - where is the incentive for development?
  25. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 July 2020 10: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
    Dmitry Vladimirovich (Dmitry Vladimirovich)

    There is some joke in the joke.

    How the A-50 is made - they take the source of the Il-76 from Tashkent, and now from Ulyanovsk and put an antenna in Taganrog. There is no special plane. It was the same with the Tu-126. The basis is a passenger plane. They wanted to make a Tu-95, but the fuselage is narrow.
    And the Civil Air Fleet wrote off the Tu-114 with a large residual resource.
    The plane is a platform. And there were AWACS projects from the Tu-154. Also, essentially all AWACS s were modified - from passenger aircraft - B707, 737, 767 or Orion, which is also based on the passenger Electra.
  26. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 July 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    Dmitry Vladimirovich] Dmitry Vladimirovich (Dmitry Vladimirovich) ,

    There is some joke in the joke.

    How the A-50 is made - they take the source of the Il-76 from Tashkent, and now from Ulyanovsk and put an antenna in Taganrog. There is no special plane. It was the same with the Tu-126. The basis is a passenger plane. They wanted to make a Tu-95, but the fuselage is narrow.
    And the Civil Air Fleet wrote off the Tu-114 with a large residual resource.
    The plane is a platform. And there were AWACS projects from the Tu-154. Also, essentially all AWACS s were modified - from passenger aircraft - B707, 737, 767 or anti-submarine Orion, which is also based on passenger Electra.
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 21 July 2020 10: 20 New
      0
      And if you recall the ancient, but massive AWACS aircraft WV-2 (proprietary index L-1049A), it was based on the passenger "Constellation"
  27. ydjin
    ydjin 21 July 2020 14: 10 New
    -1
    Chief, the truncated is gone ...
  28. NordUral
    NordUral 21 July 2020 15: 10 New
    -1
    But the Ulyanovsk plant can produce only 3 (THREE) aircraft per year. Alas.

    How can one not recall the idle Voronezh plant VASO, which at one time did both IL-76 and IL-86, and assembled planes for the president ... The plant is standing, the deficit has been created. But everyone is happy with everything.

    I won't copy the rest here.
    It is high time to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty. And add in a reliable way - on a count! Then the import substitution of the present and other wonders of the Stalinist time will go.
  29. Rostislav
    Rostislav 21 July 2020 15: 12 New
    -1
    How not to remember that every failure has a first and last name. Until this practice returns, there will be no sense.
  30. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 21 July 2020 20: 04 New
    -3
    we are inferior in the radio-electronic field to the States, - an indisputable fact

    An immutable lie
  31. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 21 July 2020 20: 09 New
    -3
    Already in November of this year, the United States will not be, what are you talking about?
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 21 July 2020 21: 37 New
      +1
      Taking as an axiom that it is impossible in principle to reach the level (influence, economy) of the United States, China, our conspiracy theorists rush to self-destruction of the main competitor negative
  32. 3danimal
    3danimal 21 July 2020 21: 34 New
    +1
    One plant that makes 3 aircraft a year ... For Boeing, Airbus, it's like a joke, I guess.
  33. gregor6549
    gregor6549 22 July 2020 15: 15 New
    0
    Quote: bayard
    Carrying a board on the back is the lot of smaller AWACS aircraft, a two-way AFAR will not be able to provide all-round visibility, and therefore there will be very large dead zones in front and behind. For loitering along the front line or border, this is even more tolerable, but when all-aspect illumination is needed, it is a problem.

    I'm not sure that you are 100% right in terms of all-aspect. In some foreign sources, in particular in an article by Dr. Carlo Kopp, published in Air Pоwer Australia, it is argued that the "board on the back" of the Boeing 737 AEW & C just has such an all-aspect ratio,
    https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Wedgetail-Antennas.html#:~:text=10%20Megapixel%20superzoom.-,Wedgetail%20Apertures,and%20its%20integrated%20IFF%20system.

    In addition, radars with flat fixed antennas of such aircraft can, in principle, be used as side-looking radars with a synthesized aperture of the antenna, which provides three-dimensional detailed mapping of the earth's surface as well as ground radio-contrast targets, and this is from the point of view of using these aircraft to illuminate the ground situation and solving problems of mapping is very, very useful. In addition, such antennas have a larger radiating surface in comparison with antennas of a similar purpose hidden under a "saucer" type fairing, which leads to an increase in the detection range of air, ground and sea targets.
    The remark about "the lot of smaller aircraft" is also not accepted. It was the transition to conformal antennas with AFAR that made it possible to use smaller aircraft, since it became possible to reduce the weight and size characteristics of the radar, the requirements for its power supply and increase the level of automation of radar data processing. The latter, in turn, made it possible to reduce the number of operators performing this processing. Thus, it became possible to perform the tasks of AWACS and U, which were previously performed by large aircraft, using smaller and more economical aircraft.
  34. the same doctor
    the same doctor 23 July 2020 12: 40 New
    +1
    The Central Bank is wasting $ 600 billion. A billion a year would be enough to create its own element base in 10 years. But ... Her products cannot be sold to the West. And only export is important to Putin. The needs of their country are sidelined.
    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 24 July 2020 07: 49 New
      0
      Putin cares about his chair, he has grown into it, and the rest is really side
  35. Esso
    Esso 23 July 2020 20: 55 New
    -1
    I have always considered and still think Roman does not succeed in articles on military topics, on political topics, yes, but not on military topics. Yelling everything is bad, the boss is all gone and I can. Go Roman to the developers and ask what's the matter. And to write articles of reasoning, alas, from the evil one.
  36. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 24 July 2020 07: 47 New
    0
    Why is it so pessimistic, effective managers of a hockey player will settle everything, if not by 2024, then by 2050 for sure
  37. Arkon
    Arkon 24 July 2020 08: 28 New
    0
    I wonder if I can wait from Skomorokhov for at least some truthful assessment of the feat of Russian designers and managers, in the most difficult conditions of devastation after the 90s, who created the best army in the world from scratch (everything was lost). The army that set a new civilizational concept for the construction and use of the Armed Forces I don't think I can wait.
    But so much the worse for Skomorokhov. Ingratitude is a grave sin.

    And while the dog barks - the caravan goes on. smile
  38. times
    times 24 July 2020 20: 31 New
    -3
    I agree that VASO needs to be loaded with orders. Doubtful about the transport workers. Hope for the Su-34.
  39. grumbler
    grumbler 26 July 2020 13: 07 New
    0
    Of course, the AWACS aircraft is primarily equipment and integration with a single "network-centric" data processing system (collection, selection and composition, presentation and analysis, and delivery of processed data and tasks to consumers in a convenient way).

    The backlog in electronics is slowly rectifying, but the process is long and very long.
    And it is necessary to resist the already existing (and continuously developing in the process of active exploitation!) Means of the enemy Now. Output:
    A) Apparently, you will have to conduct 2 fronts of work:
    - To develop semiconductor electronics is inevitable in the coming years.
    - And to solve current problems by "perpendicular" methods (as was often done in the USSR) - to introduce at an advanced pace highly specialized hardware computers: analog, optical (on solitons), calculators with fractional dimensions (on media located near the phase transition point, on fluctuating media ), hardware neuroprocessors.
    They do an excellent job of extracting noise-like signals from highly noisy data - typical tasks of radar and decision making. This requires a very powerful involvement of Fundamental and Applied Science (NII RAS system) - the reform of the RAS, ay ...!?

    But! This time, in no case should we repeat the mistakes of the USSR - not to allow excessive secrecy and, as a result, multiple duplication of completely identical works.
    Which only leads to a "zoo" of incompatible "semi-artisanal" solutions and a monstrous dispersal of resources. It is impossible to produce "billion" of different architectures, standards, machines in industrial designs.
    Use unified architectures - a single "bus-modular" principle for constructing all systems for all military applications (a single standard for "transport" and for "containers" connected to it, both at the hardware level and at the software level).
    Consistently apply the methods of: Systems Engineering, especially its projection for software design - Domain Driven Design (DDD). TRIZ - Theory of Inventive Problem Solving. TRIZ can get three times breath thanks to automated methods of analysis of "big data" and machine learning, because TRIZ was originally born as a result of the analysis of a large database of patents (in fact, it was Big Data processing, but by the hands of G.S. Altshuller's employees)
    and formalization of the search for optimal solutions based on the "matrix of contradictions", which is very close to the problems of machine learning, multi-criteria optimization).

    Unified software platforms (OS, simulators, compilers and libraries, development environments).
    To widely apply the paradigms of "language-oriented programming" (Domain Specific Language (DSL)) and "automatic programming" and metaprogramming - automated generation of executable code from DSL and other abstract representations of "open specifications" (which will be especially valuable when programming self-learning systems, neuroprocessors, when behavior is generated already in the learning process, and you need to ask not HOW the system should do something, but WHAT it should do).

    B) Perhaps it's time to rely on an unmanned AWACS - i.e. it is essential to refuse to create a "Russian AWACS" and immediately jump to a swarm of UAVs implementing distributed radars ("searchlights" and "detectors"). Such systems will be much more stable than single aircraft. They will be able to stay in the air for much longer, due to the absence of restrictions imposed by the presence of a human crew on board. As a result, they can have much more successful layout aviation solutions. More suitable for long-term stay in the air (especially in the case of maritime surveillance equipment, for example, ASW missions, patrolling maritime borders and global surveillance).

    What is extremely important, these approaches will give many outlets for Civilian Applications - meteo / environmental monitoring, search and rescue operations,
    support of navigation, marine fisheries, etc.
    1. grumbler
      grumbler 26 July 2020 13: 31 New
      0
      I will add. At an intermediate stage, while aviation platforms for UAV AWACS are not yet widely implemented, it is possible to start using such observation and data exchange systems in the form of containers, which can be retrofitted to conventional manned aircraft (including medium / light and even large gliders and airships). This will allow to work out the operation of systems and their interaction, solve a number of EMP issues, etc. And, in a more mature form, install them on unmanned vehicles (which will reduce the loss of expensive kits).
  40. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 11 August 2020 21: 43 New
    0
    "In contrast to the sea and especially the oceanic expanses, in the air we have everything more or less in order. We have everything: interceptors, fighters, and bombers." Are the planes flat? as old as the A 50
  41. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 16 August 2020 07: 54 New
    0
    I fully share the emotions of the author. In Russia, it is customary to puff out your cheeks for the slightest reason, but does this help in real life?
  42. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 24 August 2020 19: 59 New
    0
    Quote: georgiigennadievitch
    Nothing will push. We have money among those who drive hydrocarbons and other raw materials and products of the first processing over the hill (for example, aluminum in ingots), as well as in banks. All this public is interested only in profit and exporting it over the hill. More They don’t need any domestic chips and microelectronics. And it’s impossible to shut up everything only at the expense of the military budget. In the states, microelectronics and software are products of private advanced corporations. They understand that it is better and more practical to sell one ” a smartphone "than a few tons of coal. And our" oligarchs "who accidentally received industries and money are not ready to compete in the field of high technologies, they do not know how and do not want to. For example, Deripaska planned to produce Volga. Bought for this business at a cheap price used line in the states for a car that was removed from production, because it was not in demand there. (Our people are eating everything!) As usual, almost all "stuffing" is imported. Only when our ruble once again dipped, it turned out that the car After the drumbeat in the press, production quietly turned off. I could not calculate the cost of my Yo-Mobile and Prokhorov. He did not even release it, because. I saw a net loss ... And these are the "captains" of our business. What can we say about those who just sucked to the pipe and stupidly exchange raw materials for dollars. In order to change the situation, it is necessary to return all the raw materials business and capital from offshore companies and nationalize it. So who will allow ...


    With the machine it turned out like this: the lines were launched, then the parts ran out, and the lines were not readjustable. And that's it, the assembly is over. And the Americans did not make the details, since the stamps had been disposed of long ago. Attention, the question is: which managers purchased such equipment? These are the sleeping agents of the US State Department ...
  43. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 5 October 2020 23: 39 New
    0
    Everything is said very gloomily, as if we had no other important problems to solve. The main thing is that we have leaders with their heads, there is no need to expect that V.V. intervenes and everything is done. But in general, the author is right that our country should not be regional, but solve global problems, we need an all-seeing eye, even better than that of the United States. We need to remake the world and get rid of the US or calm them down with a good club.
  44. vik669
    vik669 13 October 2020 17: 41 New
    0
    The first flight of the A-100 took place already in 2017! And at the end of 2020, something is not funny at all!