Protests in Khabarovsk. What was it?

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Unexpected for many protests in Khabarovsk began to decline, the authorities have already spoken out about this. One can impartially evaluate this extraordinary event.

Different versions of what is happening are now being put forward, from popular anger to protect the “people's” governor, ordering the governor’s entourage and attempts by local elites to maintain their places until possible the participation of foreign intelligence services. Everything is much simpler. First of all, it is necessary to figure out who benefits from this, how the protests were prepared and held, and who could lead them explicitly and implicitly.



I once had to organize thousands of protests and rallies. There is a certain regularity in their preparation and conduct. It is easy to determine by the form of the meeting, the forces participating in it, the slogans put forward and the requirements set forth that this is a spontaneous indignation of the people or a well-prepared “ordering”.

To the question of who benefits from this, the answer lies on the surface: the environment behind the arrested governor, who really runs the region. Furgal's arrest is just an excuse that some competently took advantage of, while others threw out their accumulated anger towards the authorities.

It’s not about Furgal’s personality, he has become just a symbol of disagreement of the population of the region with the dismissal of the governor elected by him in 2018 to the peak of a candidate imposed on him who, by his previous, to put it mildly, corrupt activities, gained contempt and dislike of those living in this territory.

Furgal did not shine with particular success, but with the help of his team he managed to create the image of a justice fighter, carried out a number of measures to reduce the cost of air transportation, conduct public procurements, removing the corrupt structures of the previous governor and improving the working conditions for local business. The people saw this and considered that they had made the right choice, and then suddenly Furgal was suddenly taken and removed.

Who is the Wagon


This is a middle-aged businessman who has made his business in scrap metal since the beginning of the 2000s and has nothing to do with the lawlessness of the 90s. He competently jumped on the bandwagon of the popular, as it were, protest party of the Liberal Democratic Party and was elected to the State Duma several times. He has a not-so-clean biography, but in this party there are quite a few such “chosen people,” and he came to the court there.

He performed the role of a technical candidate in the gubernatorial elections in 2018 and at the last moment refused to withdraw his candidacy. He was elected not as a person, but as a symbol of the protest movement of the population of the region against the previous governor. He did not quite suit the central government, allowed himself harsh statements and refused to follow the local representatives of United Russia, but for the time being they tolerated him.

There are many questions regarding his involvement in the murders of 15 years ago. Why were they silent for so long? After becoming the governor, he was allowed to access top-secret information related to many issues of civil defense, mobilization plans, emergency response, relations with the military and border guards, and at least had to have a second form of clearance. Obtaining such an admission requires a thorough examination by the authorities of the entire biography to the second knee, and his involvement in criminals could not have slipped away. He was approved by the Governor, which means that he passed the test. Apparently, involvement in the killings was a reason for removal from power, and the reason could be completely different.

Organization of protests


To organize a mass crowd on the streets of the city is not so simple. We always need a serious reason, able to stir people up and take them out into the street, and the group “started up”, calling and collecting people in a specific place. Two of these factors coincided: the removal of the “people's” governor aroused the population, and the Furgal team, apparently, got in time on time and launched a call for collection. Surely, this was supported by local elites, who were threatened by the change of governor with the loss of evil places, and by many inevitable resignation.

A “zavodil” group was thrown into the street with megaphones and pre-prepared posters. Seeing the first groups of people, already “charged with injustice”, the population began to join, the crowd began to grow like a snowball.

There are standard objective methods for assessing the number of protesters. Even according to police estimates, 10-12 thousand people took part in the protests. Usually the real figure is a little higher, that is, about 20 thousand took to the streets. For a half-million city, this is a lot. Without the attitude of the masses of the population to protest, no preparation and finances are able to gather so many people. This is an objective reality, and we must reckon with it.

Who was in the crowd? Naturally, the "ringleaders", they are easy to calculate by their actions. By the way, as soon as the crowd began to gather, law enforcement officers immediately had to send their people who would actively support the protesters and at the same time record who did what and what said. So the identities of these activists have probably already been established, and many of them will have “conversations”. The vast majority were ordinary people of different ages and, in appearance, of different social status, there were even people with small children. That is, the crowd did not count on serious opposition from law enforcement. From the faces and words of the protesters, it was clear that they sincerely support the slogans put forward and are ready to defend them, the “paid” ones behave in a completely different way, this can be clearly seen from the meetings of Navalny. The support of the protesters was evidenced by massive signals in cars, which also characterized the attitude of people.

What slogans were thrown into the crowd? It should not be forgotten that after Furgal was elected governor, the capital of the Far East was transferred from Khabarovsk to Vladivostok. Perhaps it just coincided in time, but the Khabarovsk residents took it as a revenge of the center for the protest vote. The main slogans and posters were aimed at protecting Furgal: “Freedom to Furgal”, “I, we, Furgal”, and to the center: “Shame on Moscow”, “We are the masters in our house”, “Return the capital to Khabarovsk”. Later, individual posters appeared “Down with the power of Moscow”, etc., the liberals had already adhered to their agenda, “Down with Putin,” but the population did not support them. Nevertheless, these posters were heavily advertised on resources controlled by them.

The preparation of the script can be judged by how the rallies were held. It is immediately obvious that there was no serious preparation. Usually in such cases an improvised tribune is prepared, sound-amplifying equipment, a meeting leader is appointed, and speakers prepare. None of this happened, they spoke on the steps of the administration building with weak megaphones in their hands, the speakers were far from speakers and did not offer anything concrete.

In order for the action to have a result, a resolution of the rally to the authorities with specific requirements is prepared in advance, this also was not done. People signed a statement about the release of Furgal, which does not oblige him to anything; in principle, it cannot be fulfilled until the investigation is completed and the trial is held.

All this suggests that there was a spontaneous indignation of the people, which, as a rule, always ends in nothing, if some power does not take control of it and directs it in the right direction. There was no such force, and popular anger went off the whistle.

Not a single political or social force took responsibility for the protests, and this was an excellent occasion to light up all over the country.

The position of Zhirinovsky was interesting. Furgal and all the associates of the governor prosecuted were members of the LDPR. It would seem that the finest hour has come for its leader - it would be possible to announce that Khabarovsk at the call of the LDPR stood up and supported his party. None of this happened, Zhirinovsky, like a frightened rat, hid in a corner, remained silent for two days, and only on the third day unintelligibly promised that the LDPR faction would leave the State Duma. This once again confirmed his "opposition": without a team from the Kremlin, he would not say a word too much. And his "blood comrade" Vladimir Solovyov on Monday in his program for an hour proved to everyone that Furgal was a pathological killer and his place was only in prison.

As soon as the information about the protests went, the liberal resources and the media began to jerk and scream that the people had revolted and would soon go to Moscow. Navalny joyfully gave out an interview that the Kremlin’s power was soon over, he saw himself, probably, behind the Kremlin wall.

Reaction to protests


What happened in Khabarovsk was an extraordinary event for Russian reality. For a long time already, thousands of people did not take to the streets in such mass numbers with sincere protest against the actions of the authorities. Perhaps they were mistaken in their appeals, but ignoring the will of the people so simply will not work, it is fraught with far-reaching consequences. Nobody, apparently, surrounded by Furgal did not expect such support and a surge of emotions.

Surely this was also a surprise for the Kremlin authorities: the arrest of some ordinary governor there, and so many emotions and such a reaction of the population! .. The protest had no specific political demands, there were no governing and directing headquarters capable of supporting the protests. They did not spread and could not spread to other regions, it was a local spontaneous phenomenon caused by the not-so-well-thought-out arrest of the governor. At the same time, the confusion of the central government from the unexpected mass of protest actions of the population was felt, this was not expected there.

How did the authorities react to the protests? The regional authorities and Furgal’s entourage kept silence, the mayor of Khabarovsk insisted on the need to observe quarantine in connection with the coronavirus, and the plenipotentiary envoy to the Far Eastern Federal District Trutnev did not find anything clever to say and said that the leadership of the Khabarovsk Territory did not fulfill its obligations to attract investment in the region . In his understanding, apparently, only this led to protests. A spokesman for the president said the Kremlin understands the emotional message of the region’s residents, but very serious charges have been brought and the investigation should be monitored, and he warned of the danger of coronavirus infection. It can be seen, while there is an understanding of what happened, conclusions have not yet been made.

The arrests of governors and deputies took place earlier, recently they arrested journalist Safronov for "treason", detained the meaningless Platoshkin. Society basically reacted sluggishly to this. And here on the defense of the "killer" Furgal massively rose ordinary people! And the matter is not about the arrested governor, it was a reason for a surge of emotions, maybe he is guilty, people do not forgive the injustice and disregard of the bureaucratic attitude to their choice, and it must be respected.

The events in Khabarovsk showed that in an electrified society even an insignificant reason could become a trigger for serious unrest and upheaval that could destabilize the state and bring to civil conflict. Too many forces inside and outside the country, ready to seize and rekindle it. The authorities, political and social forces should ponder and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all sectors of society and stop the presumptuous elite building the state “for themselves”.
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  1. -32
    16 July 2020 06: 27
    I love our Russian people for their breadth of soul and mercy - so what, that he is a murderer? Who is not without sin! Yes, and when it was! And now he sold the administration yacht and bureaucrats pressed everyone on the ground! laughing
    Yesterday came out with protests and posters - Vova, where is the landing? Today - Vova, we will not give a return to the 37th year! laughing
    1. +83
      16 July 2020 06: 42
      I personally don't care about Furgal, I don't know how well he worked as a governor. The fact amuses me: the dude, who is suspected of serious crimes, goes through all the filter levels before joining the election race. That is, he is clean on the part of the FSB, and the Bastrykinites and other "law enforcement officers", right? And then SUDDENLY they take him by the tsugunder and drag him to Nerezinovsk. The question is: how could this happen? Where was everyone looking BEFORE this day?
      1. -27
        16 July 2020 06: 48
        So we have not the 37th year when a person was taken at night, on a denunciation or suspicion, and only then evidence was built! It seems like we are trying to build a rule of law ... And this is not a janitor, uncle Petya - besides. they say he was one of the LDPR wallets, here without a 100% evidence base an official of this level will not be taken! And there are no filters there - it doesn’t weigh de jure criminal sins on you in court - go run for whatever you want! Especially if you are a member of a large political party! That is why so many in the 2000s, whose stigma in the cannon, began to break into power, began to join the party, to protect themselves ... It's hard to pick them out!

        They say that in dashing years the governor rattled in the appropriate circles - Doctor! laughing Since he is a doctor by first education!
        1. +52
          16 July 2020 06: 53
          People do not understand and cannot understand how it is possible to arrest the governor they have chosen, to accuse of belonging to organized crime groups and contract killings only because he legally won the election. The people believed that they could choose their own governor. People believed that they live in Khabarovsk, and not in Samarkand. And then, over time, United Russia came and began to drive everyone into the Asian stall of rams.
          Hence the discontent.
          By the way, why aren’t they detaining Kadyrov on suspicion of murders 15 years ago?
          1. -7
            16 July 2020 06: 55
            So there is no evidence! And so there in Chechnya, to be honest, you can do it with Stalin’s methods - every second there is messed up, one way or another, for 2 Chechen wars, if not every first, well, except those born after 2000 — drive the wagons and take them to Kolyma! You will not be mistaken! laughing
            1. +13
              16 July 2020 10: 01
              Quote: Finches
              And so in Chechnya, to be honest, you can do it with Stalin’s methods - every second there is messed up, one way or another, for 2 Chechen wars, if not every first, well, except for those born after 2000 — drive cars and take them to Kolyma!

              contradict yourself
              Quote: Finches
              So there is no evidence!
              1. -9
                16 July 2020 10: 54
                No, I do not contradict - my opinion, this is my opinion - but the Law, this is the Law - for him, today, there is no evidence!
                1. +4
                  16 July 2020 15: 04
                  Quote: Finches
                  No, I do not contradict - my opinion, this is my opinion - but the Law, this is the Law - for him, today, there is no evidence!

                  Translated into Russian, your post reads "The law is like a drawbar - where you turned, it went there!" laughing
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                  2. +10
                    17 July 2020 07: 13
                    And more:
                    “Everything in this world and in our country happens because of money. And in the Khabarovsk Territory, everything is due to (in our case) the AmurStal plant. Without financial interests, not only governors are closed in our country.
                    So:
                    1. The AmurStal plant supplies metal to the entire Far East.
                    2. In 2017, the Amurstal plant went to three partners: Pavel Balsky (50%), Nikolai Mistryukov (25%) and Larisa Starodubova (25%) (part-time wife of Sergei Furgal).
                    3. Balsky (Muscovite) has almost sold his stake in 2019 yards in 2.7. But he slowed down. Why?
                    4. Because, the theme of the bridge to Sakhalin surfaced. And this is a mega construction site, a bunch of metal. And the AmurStal plant is the only plant in the Far East who can pull this construction without unnecessary logistics. This is a perspective on space money.
                    Therefore, in November 2019, Moscow security officials raided AmurStal. By chance. All of a sudden. Simultaneously with the searches on AmurStal, one of the founders, Nikolai Mistryukov, is arrested (some coincidence) with suspicion of long-term murders. The same murders that are now trying to sew Furgala. "
            2. +8
              16 July 2020 10: 18
              there, in Chechnya, to be honest, you can do it with Stalin’s methods - every second there is messed up, one way or another, for the 2 Chechen wars
              I love our Russian people for their breadth of soul and mercy - so what, that he is a murderer? Who is not without sin! Yes, and when it was!
              So there is no evidence!

              Zyablitsov (c)
              1. -9
                16 July 2020 10: 52
                This is my personal opinion, perhaps too hypertrophied, but it has nothing to do with the legal side of the matter - where, precisely, there is no evidence!
                1. +1
                  16 July 2020 15: 05
                  Quote: Finches
                  This is my personal opinion, perhaps too hypertrophied, but it has nothing to do with the legal side of the matter - where, precisely, there is no evidence!

                  Well, since there is NO evidence - from what such fright did Huber "sit down"? bully
                  1. 0
                    19 July 2020 12: 33
                    Well, since there is NO evidence - from what such fright did Huber "sit down"? bully
                    Will answer

                    For some reason, I remembered the case of Khoroshavin. And he seems to be from EP. And, most importantly, no one stood up in his defense.
                    Well, yes, he's from EP. Not?
                    And yes! I do not defend the current government. She has "inherited" a lot. But, nevertheless, I think so, you need to be objective to the end!
                    Otherwise ....
          2. +21
            16 July 2020 10: 01
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            why aren’t they detaining Kadyrov on suspicion of murders 15 years ago?

            because "political expediency". This is a fighting squad of the United Russia party, ready to carry out any order.

            Please note Putin, not Russia
          3. +1
            16 July 2020 19: 51
            why aren’t they detaining Kadyrov on suspicion of murders 15 years ago? So he is theirs .... United Russia !!!
          4. +1
            19 July 2020 22: 06
            Putin does not give up his infantrymen, especially at home
        2. +7
          16 July 2020 09: 58
          Quote: Finches
          when a person was taken at night, on a denunciation or suspicion, and only then evidence was built!

          But what about Golunov? It is what happened that you described
          Quote: Finches
          Since he is a doctor by first education!

          What do you dislike about his education?
        3. +14
          16 July 2020 10: 14
          Quote: Finches
          It seems like we are trying to build a legal state ...

          Ay-ah-ah, Eugene! You talk about the rule of law, but you call the person to whom you have not been convicted a murderer. And this is a criminal article (slander), by the way.
          1. -5
            16 July 2020 10: 45
            You do not read carefully - in what place did I call Mr. Furgal a murderer? Please show.
            1. +2
              16 July 2020 12: 06
              I love our Russian people for their breadth of soul and mercy - so what, that he is a murderer? Who is not without sin! Yes, and when it was! And now he sold the administration yacht and bureaucrats pressed everyone on the ground! laughing

              The fact that you did not indicate the surname does not mean anything, everything is clear from the context. And maybe I missed something, but it seems that the concept of "presumption of innocence" has not been canceled in the new Constitution
              1. -13
                16 July 2020 12: 13
                What does "mean nothing" mean? laughing And then yourself about the presumption of innocence - be consistent in your judgments then!
                1. +2
                  16 July 2020 12: 55
                  Good. Then write what Furgal did not mean in his post, but what And now he sold the administration yacht and bureaucrats pressed everyone on the ground! refers to the abstract Vasya Pupkin.
                  1. -11
                    16 July 2020 13: 16
                    Count as you please! And I already wrote everything that I wanted! hi
      2. +3
        16 July 2020 06: 57
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        goes through all the levels of filters before entering the election race

        I’ll upset you, but there are no filters. Absolutely. Only verification of the declaration of property and income. A more serious check is carried out only when APPOINTED for a position
        1. +25
          16 July 2020 08: 06
          Quote: user1212
          A more serious check is carried out only when APPOINTED for a position

          And only if a person goes across the system. If he is in line, then everyone does not care how many people he killed and ate the children.
          1. +4
            18 July 2020 14: 47
            since the Liberal Democratic Party is basically a "pocket opposition", then they checked, perhaps so-so
            and the testimony appeared several years later
            it happens that they find out about some cases even after decades
            let the court sort it out, in my opinion, among those whose relatives suddenly accidentally become billionaires, the innocent with gulkin ...
        2. +9
          16 July 2020 10: 03
          Quote: user1212
          but there are no filters.

          I’ll upset you, there are, total, already on the way to the State Duma. Google
          1. 0
            16 July 2020 10: 49
            Quote: Silvestr
            Google

            It’s also written on the fence, and after it firewood
            Cite at least one example when a candidate was removed from the election due to the FSB’s submission of suspected criminal offense
        3. +24
          16 July 2020 10: 03
          I’ll upset you, but there are no filters. Absolutely. Only verification of the declaration of property and income.

          User, don't be offended, but in politics you are not even a user, but a natural lamer. All candidates for the post of governor, before the approval of the regional CEC for the post of candidate, must be approved by the apparatus of the presidential administration. Moreover, this applies to both the imperious henchmen and opposition candidates. As a person who has participated in several electoral cycles in the Siberian Federal District, I am telling you. There are no strangers there, from the word "absolutely". There are those who are beneficial at one time or another. As soon as the released limit goes out, they are either changed "for their own" within the next electoral cycle, or they, under moral "pressure from the public" and pangs of conscience, lay down their powers ahead of schedule, or repeat the fate of Furgal. The latter option is usually implemented against those who have "completely lost their shores" and have forgotten who is "trembling and who has the right."
          1. +1
            16 July 2020 10: 58
            Quote: Dante
            User just do not be offended, but in politics you are not even a user, but a natural lamer.

            Who are you for the lamera ping mastday unfinished? wassat (old admin joke, don't be offended)
            Quote: Dante
            All candidates for the post of governor pass before the approval of the regional CEC for the post of candidate ...

            I have heard enough of these tales of the "oppositionists". The people love us, but the authorities do not let. This, of course, is also true, but not all wink
            Only small children and people with developmental delays believe that there are honest politicians and parties. There are ways for the authorities to close down the oppositionist at the elections, there are ways for the oppositionist to unwind on the "repression of the authorities". Only in the first and second cases is it a theater for housewives
            1. +5
              17 July 2020 06: 59
              The point is not even always in the oppositional orientation, but in whether it will subsequently be possible to influence the decisions made by a given person. If everything is clear with "ours" - they will fulfill orders from above without question, then with "strangers" everything is not so simple, which means that tools of pressure are needed. As a rule, these are all sorts of "sins of violent youth", which are like an anchor for almost anyone who could accumulate significant capital, and then, to protect their investments and their further expansion, decided to go into public politics. These are often given the green light too. But as a rule, roads are not given to "unmarried" ones even at the local level.
              An example from our own practice.
              A young guy who just graduated from the law faculty of our Altai state. university, decided to go self-nominated to the city duma of the regional center - the city of Barnaul. The biography is as pure as a baby's tear: an excellent student, an athlete, an activist, but one problem is non-partisan and generally treats any parties with disdain. A couple of times they tried to "include him in the cage", but he clearly outlined his position: "I am not interested in your floats, I want to help people." That is why he became a self-nominated candidate. And now about how he was brought down. Procedural. At first, our CEC found fault with the signed ballots. It was exactly a year or a year and a half before the introduction of the general voting day, and therefore the elections were still held at a time when the people had already cooled down from the battle for the harvest, survived the autumn blues and smoothly enter the season of blizzards and snow, i.e. in winter. In our climatic conditions, a pen has a habit of not starting to write right away, naturally, people circle the signature several times so that it can be somehow identified. Needless to say, this very action was perceived by our Central Executive Committee as falsification? It was here that our hero came in handy with a legal education. He acted simply and concisely: he ordered a handwriting examination, which made an equally concise decision - the re-encircling of the signature does not change the meaning and is not falsification. With this decision, he went to the Central Executive Committee, which initiated the second act of the Marlezon ballet. Now we are talking about the head of the sheet with signatures, or rather the address indicated in them. You see in the Charter of Barnaul, it is written that a short naming of a settlement is possible without reference to a region, since There is only one such settlement in Russia and it is the administrative center of the Altai Territory. And everywhere this rule works without any complaints. I even have a foreign passport, it says: Russian Federation, Barnaul and further in the text, and no problems with crossing the state. I have never experienced boundaries. However, it was this short spelling that became a stumbling block for the representatives of the CEC. By the way, it was at this stage that I joined as a consultant. The CEC issued a resolution brilliant in its immediacy to our claim with references to the City Charter (the quote is not literal, but close to the original): "suffrage is a special branch of the right-wing system, which are not subject to the norms of other normative legal acts." The question arises, how many such "special" spheres of activity do we have? After all, where not to spit all the unique, the one and only. We drew up a new complaint already in the regional CEC, after which big people contacted my "ward" and hinted that the boy should not get overwhelmed and that they would not give him any dear, after which he simply withdrew his candidacy, although I insisted on the opposite. So I'm not afraid of fairy tales - life is older
            2. +2
              18 July 2020 00: 42
              I will add. And this happens in any democratic country. Including the West so beloved by our liberals.
        4. +5
          16 July 2020 14: 55
          I’ll upset you, but there are no filters.
          Well, their logic is simple: since the moonshine still has filters, it means they should be here.

          The same Trutnev said that any citizen of Russia can run for governor.
          1. -2
            16 July 2020 16: 56
            Found someone to listen to, Trutnev))))
            1. +3
              16 July 2020 17: 34
              Found someone to listen to, Trutnev))))
              good Ready to listen to you smile
        5. -2
          16 July 2020 16: 56
          Well, our candidates, who ran with him from other parties, claim that they were checked. And they even found something from someone. True, insignificant))))
        6. 0
          16 July 2020 19: 43
          There is filtering after the fact, but there are no filters! Paradox!
      3. +60
        16 July 2020 07: 32
        Where did everyone look BEFORE this day?
        Everything is easier-
        There is an Amurstal plant. 50% belongs to the Rotenbergs, 25% to Furgal and 25% to his colleague from zero to Mistryukov.

        In 2018, Furgal wins, and a proposal from the judokas arrives with Mistryukov: they say that since you won and are not agreed, chase your shares in Amurstal as a compensation.

        Amurstal is 22 billion per year in revenue with an authorized capital of 5 billion rubles.

        Furgal and Mistryukov refuse. At the end of 2019, Mistryukov was detained and sent to the Lefortovo pre-trial detention center, where Furgal is also now located.

        Mistryukov held on, but recently refused all lawyers, did not answer his wife's calls, did not want to see members of the Public Monitoring Commission at the SIZO.
        He began to testify at Furgal, concluding a pre-trial agreement of cooperation (more on that later).

        Another moment. When Mistryukov was detained, almost immediately he gives away 25% of his shares to the Rotenbergs. They appoint a manager named Balsky. He is associated with the Rotenbergs through the Judo Federation and therefore they are secretly called the judo party.

        After the arrival of Balsky, Amurstal began to spread rot, reduce the number of workers, not pay salaries, sell property, thereby leading to the stage of bankruptcy.

        Furgalov’s share of 25% was given to his wife under trust. She tried to appeal the appointment of Balsky in court, but nothing came of it. 75% - a controlling stake in judokas.

        And now Furgal is being detained, and IMMEDIATELY there is a lawsuit in the Habkrainian Arbitration Court about the forced sale of Furgal's share in Amurstal to Rotenbergs. Ta dam.

        Now about the problem of pre-trial agreement. The problem is that under Article 90 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, decisions of other courts in respect of a person are prejudice, i.e. The facts set forth in this decision are not verified by the new court.

        And it turns out such a problem. Mistryukov concludes pre-docking, stipulates Furgal. Pre-mortem implies a special order, i.e. the court does not study the facts, but only certain circumstances (whether it was previously involved, characteristics, severity of the crime, etc.), BUT NOT EVIDENCE. And pronounces the verdict. It turns out that the court will not verify the evidence against Furgal. In turn, the court, which will pronounce judgment on Furgal, will not verify the information of Mistryukov, because they are prejudice against Furgal.



        The cost of ignoring the opinion of the people in the elections is 25% of 5 billion rubles for the sake of judokas. And then we wonder: why are these people standing up for the "killer"?
        1. +10
          16 July 2020 08: 10
          Whom Furgal frightened: the arrest of the Khabarovsk governor and possible political background
          politics is a three times overbought economy.
          maybe it’s all easier --- you need cheap steel for the Star and on other shipbuilding Far East. look for Sechin and his superiors.
          I just don’t know the prices of meth products (and their cost price) + (was the assortment wider in the Soviets?) In China, Korea, here and in Japan
          But how about the reconstruction of Bama and other infrastructure (including the bridge to Sakhalin ??? - just how much milk and diesel is needed? Without concrete and rolled metal) - will it get local or Moscow?
          and whose daldiesel?
          1. +6
            16 July 2020 09: 23
            good
            Quote: antivirus
            Whom Furgal frightened: the arrest of the Khabarovsk governor and a possible political background.
            politics is a three times overbought economy.
            everything can be easier --- you need cheap steel
            for the Star and others shipbuilding Far East. look for Sechin and his superiors.
            I just don’t know the prices of meth products (and their cost price) + (was the assortment wider in the Soviets?) In China, Korea, here and in Japan
            But how about the reconstruction of Bama and other infrastructure (including the bridge to Sakhalin ??? - just how much milk and diesel is needed? Without concrete and rolled metal) - will it get local or Moscow?
            and whose daldiesel?


            https://youtu.be/Me6INa5hW24

            in confirmation of the words, it is only necessary not to "cheap" steel, but to direct financial flows in the right direction !!!! And the costs will be cheap for the country or they will not be cheap at all without us sad
          2. +3
            16 July 2020 12: 34
            hi Hello my dear Anti-Virus!
            Quote: antivirus
            everything can be easier

            May be so!
            But let's go in order .. Amurstal is a plant specializing in the processing of ... black METAL! In 2009, the plant belonged to a certain deputy Shishkin and went to VEB for debts. Until 2017, the plant existed on the verge of dying ... a reasonable question, why? Because the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese paid more for the metal than Amurstal. In 2017, VEB sells the assets of the plant to a certain company "Torex-Khabarovsk", the founders of which are Balsky, Mistryukov and Starodubova (Furgal's wife), respectively 50%, 25%, 25% equity participation. At the end of 2017, State Duma deputies Gladkikh and Furgal began to actively lobby for the adoption of a law banning the export of metal from the Far East. On May 19, 2018, their purely disinterested, aimed exclusively at the good of the people, the impulse was crowned with success, the government of the Russian Federation adopted a resolution "On the determination of checkpoints across the state border in the Far Eastern Federal District for departure from the Russian Federation outside the customs territory of the EEC of certain categories of goods" under number 584. This decree restricts the export of scrap metal outside the Far East for a period of six months. In one click "Amurstal" becomes a monopolist in the reception of metal on a huge territory !!! Naturally, profit immediately uphill! Unfortunately for Furgal and Balsky, it turned out that in the region, besides them, a lot of people also love metal. In the second half of 2019, 9 Far Eastern ports were opened for the export of scrap metal. With the decline in the flow of raw materials, disagreements naturally began among the founders! Balsky brings down on Furgal that he is engaged in fraud and withdraws money from the accounts of the plant, Furgal brings down on Balsky that he wants to sell the plant to the Chinese .... it would seem like a proverb .. cute scolds, only amuse themselves. But higher forces intervened in this matter ... at the beginning of 2019, the chair under the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, Mr. Comrade Chaika, swayed. It would seem what a side of the Chaika to Khabarovsk affairs, but a very correct side! From 1995 to 1999, Chaika was Deputy Prosecutor General Skuratov and supervised the Far East, at the same time the Deputy Regional Prosecutor, Mr. Malinovsky, was transferred from Astrakhan to Khabarovsk. Since 2002, Malinovsky becomes the prosecutor of the Khabarovsk Territory ... well, to shorten the story ... Malinovsky covered Furgala, Chaika protected Malinovsky. In June 2019, Malinovsky was dismissed from his post, Chaika on January 20, 2020 was also ... dismissed. The van was left without a roof, from here and all his troubles!
            Quote: antivirus
            politics - three times overbought economy

            Very agree with you!
            1. 0
              16 July 2020 12: 40
              I hoped that it wasn’t the roof that spoiled Furgalu’s life — but the need for the integrated development of the Far East without small local gesheft ... and even large ones.
              I hope in vain.
              Ocrania of the Russian Federation on the side of China, whose appendage will be?
              1. -1
                16 July 2020 12: 53
                Quote: antivirus
                not care of the roof spoiled the life of Furgalu - but the need for the integrated development of the Far East

                laughing Wagon and integrated development, I beg you!
                Quote: antivirus
                Ocrania of the Russian Federation on the side of China, whose appendage will be?

                As it was Russian, it will be so!
                This canoe has been going on since tsarist times .. Moscow is far away, tea will carry!
                1. +1
                  16 July 2020 12: 57
                  Wagon and integrated development, I beg you!

                  not one governor, but "the greatness of the Kremlin's plans" - to sweep everything along the path "and the need for the complex development of the Far East"
          3. +2
            16 July 2020 18: 02
            Amurstal is 22 billion per year in revenue with an authorized capital of 5 billion rubles.
            Where did you get the numbers?
        2. 0
          16 July 2020 08: 35
          Make a phone call from the Lefortovo pre-trial detention center? Are you out of your mind? Okay butyrka or sailor suit ..
        3. +3
          16 July 2020 09: 52
          Quote: lwxx
          The cost of ignoring the opinion of the people in the elections is 25% of 5 billion rubles for the sake of judokas.

          The rest is up to you, and here you have the problem of chicken and eggs. Furgal began to be dispossessed because he was elected without permission, or money was the main motive. Judging by Grudinin, the problem came from politics.
        4. -6
          16 July 2020 09: 55
          Quote: lwxx
          There is an Amurstal plant. 50% belongs to the Rotenbergs, 25% to Furgal and 25% to his colleague from zero to Mistryukov.

          Quote: lwxx
          Another moment. When Mistryukov was detained, almost immediately he gives away 25% of his shares to the Rotenbergs. They appoint a manager named Balsky.

          )))) Well, it started. Compositions and gag. Where did you read that? 50% belong to Pavel Balsky. He is not a manager, but an owner. You dragged the Rotenbergs only because you would build your crazy theory that it is such a bad power that removes such a good governor. Balsky is a member of the board of directors of SMP Bank, just like Rotenberg, so you dragged them together, especially since they are friends of the president. And your main task is to denigrate the government.
          1. 0
            16 July 2020 15: 35
            That is yes. You are right, of course.
            Lidia Barabanova, an 84-year-old retirement teacher, is a well-known businesswoman and latifundist, well, in general, has nothing to do with one unpleasant person.
            Throws from the same area. Solid villains denigrate the power!
            1. +1
              17 July 2020 11: 47
              Quote: Mishka78
              That is yes. You are right, of course.
              Lidia Barabanova, an 84-year-old retirement teacher, is a well-known businesswoman and latifundist, well, in general, has nothing to do with one unpleasant person.
              Throws from the same area. Solid villains denigrate the power!

              ))))) I'm not even surprised. I just wildly like how you pseudo patriots Communist Socialists are building everything. You hate liberals so much, stigmatize them for what they mean, you call the president a liberal, but as soon as it concerns some information, the first thing you use is, with great pleasure, the information of liberals. In fact, the enemies of the people are not liberals. There are no real liberals in the Russian Federation; thank God, there are a small number of them. And they are open traitors. But it is much more interesting to look at you leftists pretending to be patriots. And all your patriotism comes down to the actual union with the same pseudo liberals. And all for the sake of criticism of everything and everything.
              Where did the information about Lidi Barabanova come from? And she came from a well-known site like The Insider, created by a political activist of the liberal-democratic orientation Roman Dobrokhotov. A famous creature, an ardent opponent of Putin and possibly associated with Khodorkovsky. Of course, the lack of evidence does not bother you. Hiley Likely And of course you don’t care that this site wrote nonsense about violins and that in February 2020, The Insider, together with Bellingcat and Der Spiegel, investigated and stated that the murder of Zelimkhan Khangoshvili in Berlin in August 2019 was organized by the FSB Vympel special unit. You are much more interested to read that bulk wrote about Lydia Barabanova.
        5. 0
          17 July 2020 06: 28
          Quote: lwxx
          Everything is easier. There is an Amurstal plant. 50% belongs to the Rotenbergs, 25% to Furgal and 25% to his colleague from the XNUMXs, Mistryukov.

          Everything is more complicated.
          There is a plant under the name LLC "TOREKS-KHABAROVSK" INN2723188252,
          where the founders
          75% of JSC Armada RUB 7 500,00/06.03.2017/09.02.2017 (first entry XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)
          INN 7718947344
          25% Starodubova Larisa Pavlovna 2 500,00 rub. 07.07.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX
          INN 253714804698

          There is JSC "Armada" INN 7718947344, the founder, where the holder of 75% of the shares is JSC VTB-registrar.
          The authorized capital of the monster LLC "TOREX-KHABAROVSK" is 10 sput, not 5 yards. 5 billion is the book value for 2018.
          And there is still such a modest office with one employee (according to the database), where the authorized capital is already 2 yards:
          LLC "UK" AMURSTAL "
          General Director Freidin Grigory Yakovlevich 15.05.2017/504709435806/XNUMX INN XNUMX
          Authorized capital: 2 000 000 руб.
          15.05.2017
          Founders and members
          50% Balsky Pavel Grigoryevich 1 000 000,00 rub. 15.05.2017
          INN 772985969063
          25% Mistryukov Nikolay Vladimirovich 500 000,00 rub. 15.05.2017
          INN 254002713812
          25% Starodubova Larisa Pavlovna 500 rubles. 15.05.2017
          INN 253714804698
          Trustee: LLC "Scrap Far East"
        6. +2
          18 July 2020 01: 01
          Not understood? Even if it's true. The rich are trying to squeeze the factory out of each other. Including with the help of the authorities. And what have the people got to do with it? In any case, he will get nothing.
      4. +5
        16 July 2020 08: 52
        detained little morego Platoshkin

        An interesting assessment that characterizes primarily the evaluator.

        It is clear that for the Zaputenov there is no alternative to no alternative, and only zero matters. But, nevertheless, if you look at others, will they all have a value below zero?
        1. +10
          16 July 2020 10: 04
          Quote: Stas157
          detained little meaning Platoshkin

          An interesting assessment that characterizes primarily the evaluator.

          There is such a Kurdistan Workers Party. One of the leaders, Ocalan, was tried and sentenced to death in Turkey. In protest - in Saratov (!!!!!!!!!)
          area self-burned 3 Kurds. . .
          Where is Turkey, and where is Saratov ....

          Because of Furkal - kypzha is already worth a lot ...

          And because of Platoshkin, even 10 people did not attend the rally ....

          To whom as to me - the difference between these arrests seems global ...
          1) Leader, 2) "against the government" and 3) N-I-Ch-E-G-O ....
          Who is interested in the type of "opposition leader" - for whom even 10 supporters did not gather? !!!!!!!
      5. +7
        16 July 2020 09: 17
        They say he "intimidated" the people (by cutting the budgets of the administration of the governor of the region and the mayor of Khabarovsk, forced officials to find subsidies for food for children in the village and schools ... laughing ) "intimidated" the prosecutor's office, the police, the UK and the FSB !!!! Strong! The people went out into the streets against lawlessness and lack of respect ... those who work for themselves and for someone else for the "pocket" in power structures are effective managers, and those who decided to stop sitting out and need to work to raise the economy and for the good of the country - criminals! this angered the people am In general, everywhere and everyone has a financial interest, and this is one of the main reasons for the arrest of Furgal, Zhirinovsky’s speech from the rostrum of the Duma threatening to surrender the party’s mandates, then merging his words .... YouTube has an excellent explanation of these events, although everything can and not quite so. See if the background is interesting. There is no politics
        https://youtu.be/Me6INa5hW24
      6. +6
        16 July 2020 09: 52
        The governor is a high position. Such people are not allowed before the election if there is no compromising evidence, and when you need to take out a folder from the safe, dust off, that's the new criminal case.
        1. -3
          16 July 2020 11: 18
          Quote: GRIGORIY76
          The governor is a high position. Such people are not allowed before the election

          I can imagine how these wonderful people are chosen: at 8-00 a 17-year-old freshman student and his 70-year-old professor, doctor of some sciences, are lowered into the ballot box. And everyone has only one (!) Voice. Very democratic. Then other students wake up in the hostel and also go to the polls. The question is: what is the ratio of the votes of professors and students, as well as qualified voters and ... The question is, so who actually chooses?
          1. +2
            16 July 2020 11: 30
            Quote: iouris
            The question is: what is the ratio of professors and students

            1. If you are aware of the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences, then the professors should not be taken seriously, they are not qualified voters.
            2. The democratic procedure was invented in order to recount the legions supporting a particular consul without an expensive civil war. Similarly, for the same purpose, a democratic procedure was introduced in England during the time of John the Landless, where it showed itself well and was borrowed in Europe and America. Over the years, its meaning has been forgotten, but not the fact that forever.

            So, in Russia, democracy has never been applied. Recalculation of divisions was carried out in the form of a civil war or armed coup.
          2. +3
            18 July 2020 15: 09
            Have been voting in elections since the age of 18
            but non-commissioned widow iouris has already carved herself
      7. +13
        16 July 2020 09: 57
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Question: how could this happen?

        this is called "political expediency". And this shows that all our law enforcement agencies work "on request", like "call girls". Especially. the statute of limitations for the acts that still need to be proven have expired.
        All this speaks about one thing, if the authorities need the pre-adler to be in the system, she will turn a blind eye to this. And how then to call such a power? - Naturally, criminal, because it lives and exists not according to the LAW, but according to concepts request
        1. +5
          16 July 2020 15: 39
          I don’t know how in Khabar and in Vlada they will not see fiercely Muscovites (and this is not about separation) when the Japanese auto industry covered a third of the Far East there. when the dribble was and Moscow money was not good for the local enterprises, so many factories were bankrupted by the new Moscow business executives .... yes, the bandits and there were frank Darkin in handcuffed met in Moscow and no one came out to hold a rally. and a third of the population has already fled with their feet.
          hmm just that it was necessary to sell the yacht to reduce the administration of the children free breakfasts and now it’s popular love, the crowd has already come out for you ..... but with us this is considered incredible .....
          1. +2
            16 July 2020 19: 54
            Yes, so in any region, except for "Putinburg" and "Sochi Dacha". As soon as Moscow financial structures come to the region for any industry, expect trouble. Their local bablosozy seem to be non-possessors.
      8. +4
        16 July 2020 14: 44
        goes through all filter levels

        All levels of filters, even moonshine does not pass. wassat
        Trutnev won says that no checks are provided, any citizen can run for governor, deputy, etc.
      9. w70
        +2
        17 July 2020 07: 12
        Do you know that Furgal wrote laws before the governorship for 12 years in the State Duma?
      10. 0
        18 July 2020 00: 22
        And maybe those who should "look" the stigma in the gun? I am in no way on anyone's side. Because I know no more than you do. (That is, a TV set and the Internet) But still, some kind of docking is not. If the authorities didn't like it, then why didn't they just remove it. And if there is something to judge for, why did not they find it earlier. When checked for the post of governor.
      11. 0
        19 July 2020 22: 04
        loot decides everything, most likely
    2. +6
      16 July 2020 06: 56
      Quote: Finches
      And now he sold the administration yacht and bureaucrats pressed everyone on the ground!

      Not all, but only from EP. His, LDPR bureaucrats, in order
      1. -30
        16 July 2020 06: 58
        Well, that was what was required to prove! All these protests were paid by Volfych - but now the children from the sect of the wrestlers with the bloody regime will run in and fill us up with minuses! laughing
        1. +24
          16 July 2020 07: 28
          Quote: Finches
          Well, that was what was required to prove! All these protests were paid by Volfych - but now the kids from the sect of the wrestlers with a bloody regime will run in and fill us up with minuses

          Personally Zhirinovsky paid? Did you attend? You are such nonsense that does not go into any gates.
          Quote: Finches
          They say that in dashing years the governor rattled in the appropriate circles - Doctor! laughing Since he is a doctor by first education!

          When did one grandmother become a credible source?
          Quote: Finches
          they say he was one of the LDPR wallets, here without a 100% evidence base an official of this level will not be taken!

          That is the question that there is practically no evidence base, everything is based on the testimonies of ONE, sick, half-blind person.
          Quote: Finches
          I love our Russian people for their breadth of soul and mercy - so what, that he is a murderer?

          You do not love the people, but the "feeding hand", judging by your posts.
          1. -24
            16 July 2020 07: 59
            The first fighter against the bloody regime rushed into the attack for "justice" and people's happiness laughing
            Do not forget to climb on the armor, so more pathetic! laughing
            1. +10
              16 July 2020 08: 09
              But in essence the subject? wink
              1. -18
                16 July 2020 08: 13
                But in essence of the subject, I’ve already said everything, shut it down, that’s how it should be! The state has the right to violence, such is the situation! Whether we like it or not, it’s the cornerstone of the concept of the state in general! hi
                1. +10
                  16 July 2020 08: 16
                  Quote: Finches
                  so it should be

                  Who needs it, why it is necessary, why it was needed only now?
                  1. -20
                    16 July 2020 08: 26
                    In order not to wind snot on my fist, I will give you the famous phrase of Zheglov to Sharapova, a lawyer for the pocket thief Kirpich, "Remember, Sharapov! There is no punishment without guilt!" hi
                    1. +6
                      16 July 2020 09: 09
                      Quote: Finches
                      There is no punishment without guilt! "

                      Do not disappoint me, Eugene. Have you ever been punished for violating traffic rules that you did not commit?
                      1. 0
                        16 July 2020 09: 15
                        And how many times have I NOT been punished when I violated them ... laughing
                  2. +2
                    16 July 2020 18: 22
                    Who needs it, why it is necessary, why it was needed only now?

                    The time will come all know bully
                    ---
                    One thing I’ll say, the story is very interesting, Furgal’s arrest is only the beginning, the chain expects to be very interesting.
                    --- hi laughing
                    1. +3
                      17 July 2020 09: 39
                      I’ve heard about the cunning plan for more than 10 years, and thieves are still there.
                      1. +1
                        17 July 2020 13: 47
                        I’ve heard about a cunning plan for more than 10 years
                        one must not only hear, but also see. Better to see once than to hear 10 times. bully
                2. +4
                  16 July 2020 09: 54
                  Quote: Finches
                  closed, so it’s necessary! The state has the right to violence

                  The state is the alleged Furgal killer, no?
                  1. -1
                    16 July 2020 10: 41
                    A murderer, not a killer - let this court determine! And so, he is a sovereign employee.
                    1. +2
                      16 July 2020 11: 16
                      Quote: Finches
                      And so, he is a sovereign employee.

                      But other sovereign officials arrested him, no?
                      1. +2
                        16 July 2020 11: 19
                        That's right!
                3. +1
                  16 July 2020 15: 48
                  The state has the right to violence. It is a fact. We delegated this right to him. However, violence must be fair and lawful. Otherwise, it turns into the right of the first night for the gentleman and the opportunity to screw up anyone on the stable simply because he looked askance.

                  Closed - so it should be? And who needs it? Putin, whose popularity is declining? Rotenberg, to squeeze the plant? To local residents who just came out to protest?
              2. -11
                16 July 2020 08: 18
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                But in essence the subject?

                Repost:
                "Furgal became famous for the loss of the capital status for Khabarovsk and the increase in the state debt of the region. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation published data on the size of the state debt of the constituent entities of the Federation as of May 1, 2020.
                The Khabarovsk Territory showed an unprecedented anti-record: the region’s debt grew immediately by 4 billion rubles in a month and reached 57,926 billion rubles.
                A year and a half (more precisely, 19 months) Furgal built the economic policy in such a way that the size of borrowings in the Khabarovsk Territory (both in commercial banks and budget ones) increased by 8,29 billion rubles, or 16,7%.

                The cost of forming an image from the regional budget reached half a yard a year. Https: //tlgrm.ru/channels/%40RUSSICA2
                The administrative apparatus of the krai government, the zakuma of the krai and the duma of the cities of Khabarovsk and Komsomolsk was almost the entire LDPRovsky. https://mk-ru.turbopages.org/s/mk.ru/politics/2020/07/09/ubiystvo-v-strane-ldpriya-chto-ostalos-za-kulisami-zaderzhaniya-gubernatora-furgala.html
                Furgal does not have any real achievements. "

                Video in the topic why now and why not earlier:

                1. +4
                  16 July 2020 20: 10
                  Boris, your "The region's debt grew by 4 billion rubles in a month and reached 57,926 billion rubles" indicates that a more or less intelligible audit was finally carried out and the debt was recalculated. There can be no other options "in a month". Secondly, 4 billion is less than 10% of the amount owed. Thirdly, to whom does the region "owe"? - Judging by the number of attendants circulating in Moscow, all regions in our region are underfunded from the "Moscow money vacuum cleaner", for which all Moscow financial and business structures that have fallen into a "budget quit" regularly draw from it. It is of course, if the state of Muscovy is needed, then everything is correct. But this is not about the state of Russia, which, in theory, should support the Far East with hands and feet, which is in close proximity to China, Japan and South Korea. The FSB alone cannot keep it here .. And this is not only about the Far East. And in our country there is continuous "Moscow speaks and shows," says ideology - patriotism, shows the fig to the zakadysh. The Moscow government should talk less, work more, especially with important strategic regions, especially in terms of the targeted use of funds that are given under the control of local adherents of the "party of power." Whoever sticks with the money - in the wings with the EP. As inappropriate - no one is guilty.
              3. Ren
                +6
                16 July 2020 11: 17
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                But in essence the subject?

                November 29.10.2004, XNUMX businessman Eugene Zorya, who had a conflict with Sergei Furgal, was killed.
                November 31.01.2005, XNUMX businessman Oleg Bulatov, who had a conflict with Sergey Furgal, was killed.
                November 11.07.2005, XNUMX by order of the prosecutor of the Khabarovsk Territory Vladimir Malinovsky, investigations into the killings are suspended, the criminal prosecution of the suspects is stopped.
                November 01.12.2005, XNUMX Attorney General Vladimir Ustinov declared Vladimir Malinovsky incomplete official compliance. In addition, a warning was issued to the Deputy Prosecutor General of Russia for the Far Eastern Federal District, Yuri Chaika.
                November 23.06.2006, XNUMX Yuri Chaika becomes the Prosecutor General and appoints a friend of the Malinovsky Deputy Prosecutor General.
                2007 year. Furgal entered the list of the Liberal Democratic Party in the elections to the State Duma and was elected deputy.
                2018 year. Furgal was elected governor.
                November 19.03.2019, XNUMX after the board of the Prosecutor General, Vladimir Malinovsky disappeared. March 22 announced that he fell unsuccessfully, hit his head and fell into a coma.
                November 05.04.2019, XNUMX The TFR cancels the decision on the go-ahead of Malinowski to suspend the preliminary investigation in the murders of Zorya and Bulatov. Materials are taken into its production by the Central Office of the TFR.
                July 2019 of the year. Malinowski resigns.
                November 2019 years alleged killers, an intermediary, and also friend and business partner of Furgal Nikolay Mistryukov were detained. The latter does not admit guilt.
                November 22.01.2020, XNUMX Yuri Chaika resigns from the post of prosecutor general.
                February-March 2020 years Nikolay Mistryukov concludes with the Prosecutor General, who has a new leader, a pre-trial agreement and begins to testify at Furgal.
                July 2020 of the year. The arrest of Sergei Furgal.

                The prosecutor’s roof was gone and Furgal was closed.
                1. +3
                  16 July 2020 13: 34
                  How did this seagull become the prosecutor general at the same time !?
                2. +3
                  16 July 2020 15: 24
                  Quote: Ren
                  2007 year Furgal entered the list of the Liberal Democratic Party in the elections to the State Duma and was elected deputy.
                  2018 year. Furgal was elected governor.

                  You missed in this interval the story of Timofeev, a local "authority", who was taken with the crusts of the assistant to the deputy of the State Duma Furgal in a car full of weapons and, probably, the organizer of these murders
                3. -1
                  16 July 2020 17: 05
                  And everyone around knows that the Seagull was protecting Furgal, but the Seagull, for some reason, was free.
                  Or, as one comrade wrote on the internet: this is information from intelligence agencies and materials are collected on Chaika. Yeah, and the secret services declassified it. Men, you’re sorry that I’m not catching up with my feminine logic.
        2. +9
          16 July 2020 10: 00
          Quote: Finches
          All these protests were paid by Volfych - but now the children from the sect of wrestlers with a bloody regime will come running and fill us up with minuses!

          30 thousand people cannot be paid to go to an unauthorized rally! You, a colleague, exist in a fictional reality for people like you.
          Look at these people who don't fit into your zombie matrix:
          1. -8
            16 July 2020 10: 48
            30 thousand is a penny, in one "friendly" country we were paid hundreds of thousands of money ... Apparently the budget of the Liberal Democratic Party is still smaller than the budget of the US State Department! laughing
            1. +3
              16 July 2020 15: 10
              Quote: Finches
              30 thousand is a penny, in one "friendly" country we were paid hundreds of thousands of money ... Apparently the budget of the Liberal Democratic Party is still smaller than the budget of the US State Department!

              Tanunafik, but you Believe in this, believe in the plutin and Solovyov, believe in the Rotenbergs and Michelsons, believe in the "voting", this is your right, just do not complain when you and the plutin will be swept away by the youth into the dustbin of history.
              1. 0
                16 July 2020 16: 43
                Youth will take you to the trash of history ... Because this is the dialectic of life! laughing
                1. +4
                  16 July 2020 17: 25
                  Quote: Finches
                  Youth will take you to the trash of history ... Because this is the dialectic of life!

                  Nah, I must stay, I have no other choice! Otherwise, people like you will pull everyone to the grave.
                  I dedicate to my father!
                2. +2
                  16 July 2020 20: 18
                  For example, I agree "to the dustbin of history," provided that the entire oligarchic kodla goes with me, so that strategic enterprises are nationalized, so that the ideology of the state becomes socialist, so that small businesses are not taxed, so that the village is revived. Let them demolish, if only they built a socially just society and raised the birth rate.
          2. -4
            16 July 2020 11: 13
            Quote: Stroporez
            30 thousand people cannot be paid to go to an unauthorized rally!

            They were not 30 thousand. Maximum 5-7. There were still bulkers, the communists joined .... But even 30 thousand is 5% of the population of Khabarovsk. And most of them are just onlookers who went out to hang out on the weekend. By the way, there were many from the surrounding villages, someone organized transport, though they later got out of the city on their own. There are those who thumped until the morning
            1. +4
              16 July 2020 17: 19
              There were not 5-7 thousand people, but about 25. On the square. During the procession, they came and went, which means we can safely talk about 30 thousand. The husband works in the police department to which the center belongs. They guard all sorts of processions regularly. The filling knows. Considering that rallies in Khabarovsk have never collected more than a couple of thousand (from any party), then draw a conclusion. And yes, and were piled up, and the communists. And everyone tried to paddle everything for themselves. Yes, if you believe the Internet and now they are trying. But, if you are so in the subject, you should know how they piled on the heads of the heads for incitement to riot. But the reaction of the Khabarovsk citizens participating in the rallies in Khabarovsk, to the rally in Moscow, when they started for Furgal: “Well, in two ways, in two ways. This is Moscow, people will not hesitate to come for a price. the plan that under the slogans of Furgala in Moscow they will do atrocities "(unfortunately I cannot insert media here)
              1. -1
                16 July 2020 18: 12
                Quote: Lydia Zolotukhina (Matveeva)
                During the procession, they came and went, so you can safely talk about 30 thousand

                why not about 40 or 50? It’s ridiculous. Lenin Square is a square 160m x 160m
                There, the maximum will fit just about 30 thousand in dense formation (there are still fountains, lawns), and the area was filled by a maximum of 1/3, if the liquid crowd was condensed, on the first, most massive day
                Not, for a beautiful photo of the crowd, this herd was driven into the corner of the square and fotkali from a height of about 2m, so of course the crowd looked impressive, but from a higher height ...
                The rally, of course, was massive for Khabarovsk, but 25-30 thousand were not there. 5-7, well, to hell with it - 10
              2. -5
                16 July 2020 18: 44
                Lydia Zolotukhina - wife of Stroporez laughing
          3. 0
            19 July 2020 02: 09
            30 thousand people cannot be paid to go to an unauthorized rally!
            Firstly, 30 thousand dubious amount.
            Secondly, it has now become even easier to drive dismissals to the rally - no one needs to pay anything, except for the organizers (centurion, ten's manager). In addition, video proof is required for control.
    3. +12
      16 July 2020 07: 11
      The authorities, political and social forces should ponder and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all sectors of society and stop the presumptuous elite building the state “for themselves”.

      1. Why think if they are doing well?
      2. Already reformatted - minimum GDP until 2036.
      3. By itself, everything is already built and there is no sense in the elite to change something.
      4. The army will crush any protest.
    4. -11
      16 July 2020 07: 45
      Quote: Finches
      I love our Russian people for their breadth of soul and mercy - so what, that he is a murderer?

      How so about the people? Now we get the cons, the voice of the people is the voice of God. laughing laughing
      But, this is an idyll, in reality it is necessary to recall the behavior of the people of Israel towards Christ on Palm Sunday and a few days later. And more than once in recent history, the masses fooled, especially on a large scale in the 20th century. What crowds gathered, for example, in support of perestroika ... And no wonder, far from all have education, reliable information, a desire and the ability to understand something ...
      As for the indignation about where they looked before, it is because many, again, unknowingly exaggerate the competence of the special services, etc. How many of them, "special heroes", are taken with tons of bills ...
      It was simply that for the time being there was no relevant data on this Furgal, it was not involved ... And now they have surfaced, although a lot has passed, as for the same Bykov in Krasnoyarsk. Someone tried, gave the info to the top and began to dig. The authorities also pursue the goal of showing that there is no statute of limitations, i.e. to gang, and then tie and go into legal power is meaningless.
      1. -19
        16 July 2020 08: 02
        Already, wrestlers with a totalitarian regime have nightmares about foam at my mouth, now they will get to you! laughing
        1. +10
          16 July 2020 09: 16
          Eugene, hi hello my friend!
          It’s not upsetting your opinion, it’s what is happening to you that bothers you. Previously, you shone with logic, argumentation, and in the spring you switched to emotions more, and grammatical errors in your texts appear more and more. Hold on, we need you in the same quality.
          Sincerely ... hi
          1. -8
            16 July 2020 09: 35
            Thank you! hi

            I apologize! Especially for mistakes, but really, on the phone, damn it’s not convenient ... Until you get to the computer. However, this is empty - you need to be more careful! As for the logic ...- you know: "Tired of talking and arguing and loving tired eyes, In the filibuster distant sea, the brigantine raises sails ...!"

            And in the case of the governor, in my life I talked quite a lot with military counterintelligence officers and prosecutors, the investigative committee ... There they can, of course, fabricate a case from scratch, I myself, but probably we won’t find a single commander in our country, which law enforcement bodies didn’t roll a barrel, but always have their own border lines, and so - there should be reinforced concrete evidence of guilt on an official of such a level, but what you took right now, you can see the political situation exclusively at that moment, but nothing more !

            They don't take the first governor for a zugunder, but why exactly Furgal's arrest caused such a stir - I don't believe that people en masse, in a single impulse, voluntarily came out to defend the governor ... But what is behind this is Zhirinovsky, whom, by the way, I respect, I believe more ... I saw the only really popular rally when people voluntarily took to the streets - this is in Kemerovo, when the Winter Cherry burned down and children died ...
            All other so-called "popular" meetings in modern Russia are artificially organized gatherings!
            1. +1
              16 July 2020 17: 42
              Faith - the recognition of something true regardless of the actual or logical justification, mainly due to the very nature of the subject’s relationship to the subject of faith)).
              By the way, even megaphones were not at first. They appeared after the procession. Their administration buildings were taken out.
            2. +2
              19 July 2020 02: 31
              Not the first governor is taken for the zugunder, but why exactly the arrest of Furgal caused such a stir
              That's just the point!
              Therefore, we should remember how Furgal became governor. In addition, Furgal was a systemic politician (LDPR means he considered the rules of the system).
              Shport went from the edr and had to win.
              From the Liberal Democratic Party was Furgal and had to lose.
              The first round did not reveal a winner.
              Shport offered Furgal a position in the regional government, he agreed.
              ---
              But at the last moment he refused and decided to fight (all the more he received a blessing from Zhirinovsky).
              At the same time, Sport openly merged.
              Which is already strange.
              ---
              It seems that someone from the system gave (most likely unofficially) a command.
              Unofficially, it means that some kind of undercover game has begun.
              Indirectly, this was pointed out by Zhirinovsky, who said, they say, well, no one from the authorities TOLD that we (LDPR) Furgal removed.
              ---
              It turns out that Furgal was someone else's Moscow project.
              ---
              And they go, popular choice, give us Furgal back.
              ---
              If this is so (that Furgal was embedded in some extremely important game and his arrest breaks this game), then it becomes clear why such a hype (throughout the country) is due to the arrest of an ordinary governor, and besides, the accused of murders.
        2. +2
          16 July 2020 20: 27
          This is when Putin's oligarchy managed to become a "totalitarian regime." Putin announced unity with Kim Jong-un? Do not pull on someone else's blanket. Our president said clearly that he is a Liberal. And I believe him. - Liberal to the oligarchic financial clans, to the top manager of state corporations and "public property" with mind-blowing salaries, liberal to the monstrous material stratification of society, liberal to negative demography, liberal to not a "living" minimum, liberal to the retirement age, liberal to the middle class 17 tyrov per soul. What is this "totalitarian mode" -? Pure Liberal, without fear or reproach!
      2. +18
        16 July 2020 08: 12
        Quote: Alekseev
        The authorities also pursue the goal of showing that there is no statute of limitations, i.e.

        How does it selectively pursue this goal, don’t you find it? And only in relation to those who go against party politics. Yes, that same party. hi
      3. +1
        16 July 2020 16: 36
        Well, I don’t believe that our investigating authorities have been digging the earth with their nose for 15 years and finally unwound it. Yes, here 37 years will seem like indulgence if you publish the results of privatization and close everyone starting from the Accounts Chamber
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    6. +2
      16 July 2020 10: 43
      Quote: Finches
      so what if he is a murderer?

      No. He is not a murderer, for the sentence has not entered into legal force. The main thing is not "what happened", the main thing is "what will be". Despite the adopted amendments.
      1. +1
        16 July 2020 12: 10
        Yes, this is not about him specifically - it is generally in our regard ...
    7. -1
      16 July 2020 10: 52
      The last few years often met with people living in Khabarovsk, who were on a business trip there, visiting relatives.
      I heard from everyone that Khabarovsk was stuck in the nineties, with their lawlessness and the right of the strong.
      So, a relative of my friend, with the rank of captain of the Moscow Region, a couple of years ago was there on official duty. He was met by an officer who immediately began to communicate with him on the folding according to concepts (he did not sit well on cardboards)). Later it turned out that this is normal for those parts.
      People there are used to a certain level of legal culture, or rather lack of culture. For those born in the region, this was a measure of due. For those who came there from other parts of Russia, this situation is a shock, especially considering that it is problematic to break out of Khabarovskaya to another subject of the country.
      A change in the local governor is an obvious signal for local kings to change the established order. Many people are accustomed to lawlessness and feel fine in it, and perceive any strengthening of central authority as a restriction of personal rights. Hence the sincere popular protest.
      It is appropriate to recall the situation with the Crimea, when the locals had to re-accustom to pay taxes, comply with traffic rules, respect the law, the government.
      I remember for the administration of the Crimea from all over Russia gathered experts - law enforcement officers, judges, officials.
      Now we must take up the bearish corners of Russia. By the way, constitutional amendments on territorial integrity are a very timely thing.
      1. +3
        16 July 2020 11: 31
        (The last few years often met with people living in Khabarovsk, who were on a business trip there, visiting relatives.
        From everyone I heard a unanimous opinion that Khabarovsk was stuck in the nineties, with their lawlessness and the right of the strong.) This is serious! I didn't know! maybe they'll tell you more. y-yes! see with "grandmothers" on the bench a frequent visitor! not from Ukraine, my dear.
        1. -2
          16 July 2020 15: 46
          The Far East, grandmothers in the army do not serve as officers, and as a rule they do not change their place of residence in old age.
          And Khabarovsk, rather, is one of the list of cities "with reduced legal responsibility") Do you think you can't see from the center what's going on in the Far East?
          The country is big, each region has its own "cockroaches in the head", but the farther from the center, the more of them for some reason.
          Time to clean up the country. Do you disagree?
          1. +5
            16 July 2020 17: 25
            Scream. I will not say for the whole Far East, but, being the grandmother of a married police officer, I can say with full confidence that the Amur Region and Khabarovsk are sincerely sure that Moscow is the main city with this very low responsibility))))
            1. +2
              18 July 2020 15: 20
              It's good and so easy to blame Moscow
              I am a resident of Blagoveshchensk
              And in real life I see how, in spite of the money that Moscow gives to the region, the city, this money is simply buried in the sand! Is Moscow to blame ??
          2. +1
            16 July 2020 20: 30
            Oh yeah! After 20 years, putting things in order to start is strong! Judging by the standard of living in such regions as the Khabarovsk Territory, not a damn thing is visible from your "center".
          3. 0
            17 July 2020 10: 18
            ha ha! what center, dear. you made my evening! and, what is going on in the Far East of this kind, sho (trenchant) of your "center" start with your "CENTERS" and, we'll see!
        2. +3
          16 July 2020 17: 22
          Oh, how much we, the Khabarovsk people (and all the Far Easterners), can be told about us by the "officers' daughter" who knows where.
      2. 0
        16 July 2020 14: 11
        Colleague Pup ... Since you were so incautious, mentioning the amendment about the territorial integrity of the country, I have to amend your opinion)) Sorry for the pun.
        The essence of this amendment is not that the country cannot be divided into parts, but that the decision to divide it is transferred to the highest level, becomes the prerogative of the central government, and not a separate subject of Russia. According to federal law 114-FZ.
        At one time, the USSR collapsed because the Constitution contained the right of the republics to self-determination up to the secession from the Union. Which was done. Now the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, due to the amendment on the integrity of the country, do not have such a constitutional right, and according to Federal Law 114-FZ (on extremism), anyone who opens his mouth in this direction is a separatist, which means an extremist and will get rid of it in full. Including the head of any region. However, according to the amendment on delitimation introduced by the deputy Klishas into the same law, pieces can be ripped off the country, but only as a result of intergovernmental negotiations.

        Border delimitation ("marking") - determination of the general position and direction of the state border between neighboring states through negotiations.

        It was on the basis of the definition of delitimation introduced by Klishas into the law on extremism - a definition that allows to bypass the amendment on the country's integrity, that after voting on the amendments, after voting on the amendments, looking towards Klishas with gratitude, he started his old song about the Kurils - they say , "we'll see." So, if you shout "Freedom to Chechnya!" or if Ramzan Kadyrov shouts, then both you and him will be jailed. But if in negotiations with a neighboring country, for example, with Georgia, President Putin thoughtfully says: "Shouldn't the Georgians shake off the ever-rebellious territory, let them play with each other," then, I assure you, the President, according to Law 114-FZ, will not be an extremist announced.
        Hence, Kadyrov's swift and super-loyal reaction to the events in Khabarovsk followed - either he sensed the odor of separatism in the actions of the Khabarovsk residents and, fearing a sidelong glance from Putin in his direction, immediately rushed with assurances of loyalty (there are certainly candidates in Chechnya for his sweet spot ), or he tried to give such a smell to the Khabarovsk events in order to once again emphasize his loyalty to Putin, they say, if that, so he, Kadyrov, is ready for anything at once and on command.
  2. +16
    16 July 2020 06: 31
    Are you people can not voluntarily protest against the sacred authority. It's all the spies to blame)
    1. +6
      16 July 2020 06: 41
      after all, in any country, any ruler wants to know the following:

    2. -9
      16 July 2020 08: 05
      Quote: Deniska999
      the people cannot voluntarily protest against the sacred authority.

      The people are not satisfied with the rallies, the people are organizing a riot. Leaders organize rallies and bring out the "herd" for their own purposes, which often do not overlap with the interests of the people
      1. +8
        16 July 2020 08: 39
        Quote: user1212
        Quote: Deniska999
        the people cannot voluntarily protest against the sacred authority.

        The people are not satisfied with the rallies, the people are organizing a riot. Leaders organize rallies and bring out the "herd" for their own purposes, which often do not overlap with the interests of the people

        Yes, yes, yes, the people used by spies and traitors, do you think so? Here in Yekaterinburg last spring there were rallies against the construction of the next church (we have them at every step and never fill up completely) in the center instead of a square - did spies and traitors also work? Also did not coincide with the interests of the population? Everyone has already forgotten (well, except for city residents) about this, and Solovyov also forgave the insult to the inhabitants of the city, now the Far East is waiting for them ... they’ll throw mud at them now, some Solovyov will call the henchmen of the organized crime group and the authorities will put the bolt back on people’s opinion ... and because of people like you who believe in the stupidity of the people ...
        1. -3
          16 July 2020 10: 40
          Quote: parma
          Yes, yes, yes, the people used by spies and traitors, do you think so?

          It is only in your imagination
          Quote: parma
          also spies and traitors worked?

          Not necessary. But I don’t believe that the meetings didn’t have curators. Organizing everything initially and clinging to the process is not important
          Quote: parma
          some Solovyov calls henchmen of organized crime groups

          I, as a resident of Khabarovsk, who knows something about the affairs of Furgala Mondays, will also call them. This is an indisputable fact for me. You have not seen how people complained to the prosecutor's office, the media, the local business association, etc. on extortion by the assistant to the deputy of the State Duma Furgal, concurrently local "authority", citizen Timofeev. The only thing that makes him innocent in your eyes is his "opposition", though you cannot explain what it is.
          1. 0
            16 July 2020 12: 28
            Quote: user1212
            Quote: parma
            Yes, yes, yes, the people used by spies and traitors, do you think so?

            It is only in your imagination
            Quote: parma
            also spies and traitors worked?

            Not necessary. But I don’t believe that the meetings didn’t have curators. Organizing everything initially and clinging to the process is not important
            Quote: parma
            some Solovyov calls henchmen of organized crime groups

            I, as a resident of Khabarovsk, who knows something about the affairs of Furgala Mondays, will also call them. This is an indisputable fact for me. You have not seen how people complained to the prosecutor's office, the media, the local business association, etc. on extortion by the assistant to the deputy of the State Duma Furgal, concurrently local "authority", citizen Timofeev. The only thing that makes him innocent in your eyes is his "opposition", though you cannot explain what it is.

            I didn’t say a word in defense of the governor, because I don’t even know the situation, but I’m sure that you cannot be a big boss (an official or a big business) and be clean before the law .. I will explain the example of the big problem of my Yekaterinburg-point buildings. When the land is allotted, a building permit was obtained from any manager, for example, the director of Vodokanal, there is no way to refuse ... and of course, this director will take money for connecting to his networks (there is no other choice, why break the law for free !?). . also with your governor ...
            I initially spoke about the rally of ordinary residents and their misunderstanding (as I see it), which made the governor of their choice objectionable (after all, it seemed as though yesterday he had been checked by everyone and admitted to the chair) ..
            PS: of course, rallies for the public garden (nobody spoke out against the church) in Yekaterinburg were later smeared by many zavalny and local personalities, but the first days it was spontaneous (because one evening they simply put up a fence and closed the square in the center of the city, where there were a lot of people walking)! Moreover, on the first day, Caucasians came from the martial arts academy (one well-known company sponsors both the academy and the construction site) and began to beat those who disagree! Most dumb, the police detained the protesters, but no fighters! On the second day, we arrived from Navalny’s headquarters with coffee and cookies, and riot police with batons .. now we are a city of demons :) not because we are against the church (no one opposed the church itself, but against the construction in principle), Khabarovsk will be called the city of ZKov )
          2. +1
            16 July 2020 17: 32
            Even I, as a resident of Khabarovsk, have not seen anything like this in the media. It’s even strange. And you, as a resident of Khabarovsk, had five thousand at the rally, although even the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which usually underestimates such statistics a couple of times, wrote about 10-12 thousand
            1. -1
              16 July 2020 18: 24
              Quote: Lydia Zolotukhina (Matveeva)
              Even I, as a resident of Khabarovsk, have not seen anything like this in the media

              Well, so I remind
            2. 0
              19 July 2020 02: 55
              as a resident of Khabarovsk, I have not seen anything like this in the media.

              You (and not only you), as a resident of Khabarovsk, will soon be very much surprised that "Furgal - Governor" is a Moscow project.

              That is why it is ridiculous to read: "I We Furgal", "Give us back Furgala", "Furgal is our choice" (especially funny), etc.
              ---
              The people of Khabarovsk (which is over 600 thousand) did not go to the rally, because they understand that something is wrong.
              And on the street basically went "people who hawala", but young people catching hype.
              ---
              Furgalu, oddly enough, is now safer in prison.
              For he is not only accused of murder, but also a witness (and therefore dangerous for those who supervised him and they do not need them alive) of a very bad game against Russia.
              ---
              And you keep shouting "I am We Furgal".
        2. +1
          16 July 2020 16: 09
          So already. "Drunken Trash".
          https://trinixy.ru/197436-vladimir-solovev-nazval-lyudey-mitinguyuschih-v-habarovske-pyanoy-poganyu.html
      2. -5
        16 July 2020 08: 39
        "The people with great joy and love meet their liberators - the free army of Batka Burnash." (The Elusive Avengers -1966)
        So in the 90s of the last century, they deceived the deceived population on the square. Having promised paradise living conditions. It ended with Chubais vouchers. Capturing 60% of the country's economy and the collapse of the USSR ... and blood ...
        The West has long changed its focus on riots in the capital of Moscow, and has long been working in the regions in many areas (local media, promotion of their power and their support .. working with young people .....) And then we are surprised - where do the Urengoy boys come from .. discontent ... (steal on the ground, and the center is to blame)
        And all the same rake and same as if not to pass by and not step on them ....
        1. -6
          16 July 2020 09: 09
          They won’t understand you here. The site is captured by a group of fighters with the regime. Apparently they are sitting in his administration.
          A normal person has nothing more to do here.
          1. -1
            16 July 2020 09: 35
            It is very interesting when the disadvantages are organized in an organized way — apparently a team work. But they open up the goals and objectives of this team. There is work on the Furgal and events in Khabarovsk and their direction in the right direction to the paying
            Want to see the work of crazy teams in other countries? Just. For example. Belarus-criticize Lukashenko and then, as if on command, work went on without explanation. Israel. same picture. Ukraine is even worse ... hi
          2. +1
            16 July 2020 20: 41
            Yeah .. It's hard for you, the singers of the oligarchy. A good mine in a bad game: to pretend that you do not understand that the bulk of the "fighters against the regime" are not against something there, but "FOR", and precisely FOR a just welfare state. And the coloring of your "mode" is of little interest, besides, it is often blue.
    3. 0
      16 July 2020 11: 11
      Quote: Deniska999
      people cannot of their own free will

      Of course it cannot. Have you ever tried to agree on joint actions with your neighbors or members of the HOA?
      1. 0
        16 July 2020 12: 44
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Deniska999
        people cannot of their own free will

        Of course it cannot. Have you ever tried to agree on joint actions with your neighbors or members of the HOA?

        Tried smile
        He frightened the residents with an additional collection of money for the target expenses of the HOA, as an alternative - a community work day. 90% out wink 10% were physically absent at that time in the city, but they also supported the subbotnik. So what is more, neighbors' solidarity to solve difficulties together or banal, due to general greed not to pay? lol
        I would like to believe in the first, but something is very tormented by doubts laughing .
  3. +21
    16 July 2020 06: 38
    I thought ... But it’s true. The whole accusation against Furgal is based on the words of a person who is being held in a pre-trial detention center, already blind, with cancer metastases, they are not given medicine, they are not allowed to meet with lawyers, they are literally tortured, although they are not beaten ... Mistryukov’s very terrible situation in which he is drove only for testimony to the governor and to take his property in favor of the filthy Balsky. The evidence under torture is not valid.
    1. +4
      16 July 2020 06: 46
      Quote: Why do you need
      The whole charge against Furgal is based on the words of the person who is being held in jail,

      To know what the suspicions are based on, one must at least familiarize oneself with the materials of the criminal case. Do you have such an opportunity?
      1. +4
        16 July 2020 09: 58
        Quote: Hagen
        To know what suspicions are based on, you must, at a minimum, familiarize yourself with the materials of the criminal case

        You are absolutely right. In until then - Furgal is innocent.
        1. +1
          16 July 2020 11: 01
          Quote: Octopus
          In until then - Furgal is innocent.

          The van was detained in accordance with Article 91 of the Code of Criminal Procedure and charged with it. So all the actions of the authorities are within the law. His guilt will be established in court after a preliminary investigation. And that is characteristic, not everything that the investigation is digging up will be immediately published in the media. Therefore, the discussion here of the motivation and legality of the detention of Furgal is utter stupidity or someone else’s order.
          1. 0
            16 July 2020 11: 14
            Quote: Hagen
            So all the actions of the authorities within the law

            As part of the procedure, more precisely.
            Quote: Hagen
            And that is characteristic, not everything that the investigation is digging up will be immediately published in the media.

            As I said, the fact that he is a killer does not change anything in the situation. If you have a governor. Who does not offend the flies, then it was put by people. Who will offend, and more than that.
            1. +1
              16 July 2020 19: 12
              Quote: Octopus
              As part of the procedure, more precisely.

              The procedure is prescribed by law, so the same eggs ....
              Quote: Octopus
              As I said, the fact that he is a killer does not change anything in the situation.

              If the court considers the arguments of the prosecution substantiated, then a lot (for it) can change.
              Quote: Octopus
              If you have a governor. Who does not offend the flies, then it was put by people. Who will offend, and more than that.

              It’s easier with people. Already today, everything is calm in Khabarovsk. It is unlikely that somewhere in Russia the governor has such authority so that the people will be tied to the state power for him to change. Putin's weight is much more. Again, the Russian Guard is in order to not offend anyone just like that laughing It will cost.
    2. -14
      16 July 2020 06: 58
      Enough is a lie to post already ah? why does everyone in the pre-trial detention center suddenly start to have illnesses when they come to them? if the Peps and SK need him to testify in court, they will cherish and cherish him. he will die the matter will fall apart. Well damn it is necessary to turn on the logic sometimes?
  4. +11
    16 July 2020 06: 46
    “But let me, how did he serve in purification?”
  5. +1
    16 July 2020 06: 48
    No, you have to shout. This is natural for public pluralism. We're not speechless. And the top is more comfortable. There is mtting-we look what is wrong. At the top, it's at the top. On the ground, it looks like "civilization" is played, and it is played, with rare exceptions. Of course, performances were inevitable. And from the point of view of people's resentment for the candidate and from the point of view of the governor's associates who have attached themselves to the organization. And what did you want to achieve besides the outburst of anger? Mass riots? Expensive. And to those who sit on the spot it is clear that it is useless. The people reported their opinion. Now only one hundred percent proof. And if everyone is on the witness, they will not accept. And there will be a latent reaction. From the masses. But who is out of place, geographically or morally distant? Who just saw the "seething" in the street? Could there be such? Naturally. They need a HYIP. It did not grow together, since the "reception" of the governor is already common in our country. Almost the norm. That is why it is not particularly resonant. It will be really angry if the case turns out to be shaky. But not the region to play with the voters like that. Maybe there will be recognition, well, 15, and not for life.
  6. +11
    16 July 2020 06: 49
    Look for fools to believe the authorities without evidence, similarly you can recall the Yukos \ Khodorkovsky case - Leontyev broadcasted about the murder in ORT, the child was left an orphan, but this episode was not in the criminal case.
  7. +32
    16 July 2020 06: 54
    Good morning, dear forum users!
    Yes, the situation for the Kremlin is ambiguous. It seems that they showed strength and made it clear to other small bipods what would happen if they disagreed with the line. But they did not take into account that the people, ordinary people also have their own opinions. Accustomed for so many years to hold us for dumb cattle. And their actions and reforms, and the pearls against us (everyone knows there is no point in listing) only aggravated the situation. The appointee will lead the region, but this is only on paper. Local bureaucrats can sabotage his decrees. As an answer and call to the appointee. And the economy of the region, and not so much as in Russia, may still fall below. And then real performances, of unemployed and bankrupt people, will go. This rally showed that people spontaneously, but they can not say what they say and ignore it.
    And then there is a second wave of this virus, and if again self-isolation and shutdown of enterprises, firms, etc.
    This is all to what roughly worked. People and so on the brink.
    And add, wrote and asked questions that on the surface why did they miss such a frame? Joining the forum member Bashkirkhan hi
    1. +16
      16 July 2020 08: 03
      It can be assumed that Furgal was a good governor, at least for part of the subordinate population, since he understood a lot about managerial activity. Without going into the identity of Furgal and what is behind him (I honestly just don’t know), we can say that people rather married not for the governor, but for their dignity.
      1. +5
        16 July 2020 09: 37
        Without going into the identity of Furgal and what is behind him (I honestly just don’t know), we can say that people soon married not for the governor, but for their dignity.

        And this is not the same thing in this case? Especially if people perceived the removal of the governor even on such a very serious charge as a personal insult?
        He (Furgal) performed the role of a technical candidate in the gubernatorial elections in 2018 and at the last moment refused to withdraw his candidacy. He was elected not as a person, but as a symbol of the protest movement of the population of the region against the previous governor.

        Apparently the previous governor was so "good" that he managed to lose the election to a technical candidate. Quite indicative, isn't it? Is it not against this that people are on strike, rightly expecting the return of the old political functionaries who have remained out of work?
        1. 0
          16 July 2020 11: 39
          Quote: Dante
          Are people on strike against this, rightly expecting the return of the old political functionaries left out of work?

          According to common sense, since a person has been in deputies for a long time, then his criminal past should have been checked long ago and the charge had been brought long before the elections to governors. The people saw that Furgal had been sitting in the deputies for a long time, and after he began to do something already as the governor - including Khabarovsk was marked by a protest vote in the local Duma - the majority of United Russia members were gone - they somehow found it right away ... " At the same time, earlier the federal center was not at all embarrassed by the work of such governors with an ambiguous reputation, such as Sergei Darkin, Oleg Kozhemyako ... "- prominent representatives of the galaxy of so-called. "authoritative businessmen" from those times. Subsequently, neither the FSB nor the police / police were able to get close to Darkin after being appointed governor, although there were repeated attempts, after which Sergei Mikhailovich received the nickname "unidentified person", since, allegedly under this name, he appeared in wiretaps and developments. Well, they could not "establish" it, it happens, cho ... On the other hand, well, they squeezed the local economy into their pockets, they pressed competitors ... but they are their own, systemic, party ones!
          1. +1
            17 July 2020 07: 22
            You yourself have answered your own question. The only thing I disagree with is the term "protest voting". I have already argued on this issue at conferences with my colleagues, arguing that this is a fundamentally wrong approach. Indeed, in fact, when we say "protest voting", it is understood that the outcome of the elections should be different (apparently known in advance), but due to some circumstances of irresistible vitality or intervention of higher forces this did not happen and other personalities came to power , different from those expected. So what kind of elections can we talk about then? At the same time, note that no one anywhere in developed democracies, if the people give preference to the antagonist of the current government, does not speak about the "protest" of this vote, calmly noting that the winner of the competitive procedure was the one whose program most corresponded to the expectations of voters. So this is purely our know-how, which has recently been used to justify any electoral process. A reasonable question arises, if this is really the case for the same Furgal or against the amendments (as was the case in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug), people vote only in spite of the decisions made by the federal government, then why then does this government provoke people to such actions? Is this some kind of political masochism? Or do they corny do not care about what is happening outside the Moscow Ring Road? For some reason I am sure that the last statement is not so far from the truth.
      2. +4
        16 July 2020 10: 23
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        we can say that people soon married not for the governor, but for their dignity.

        Absolutely right!!!
    2. -7
      16 July 2020 09: 17
      Quote: Olegater
      But they did not take into account that the people, ordinary people also have their own opinions. Accustomed for so many years to hold us for dumb cattle.

      Of those same agitators, organizers?
      Nothing you guys will succeed.
      Planted and will continue to plant. Just you too.
      And it is known to the people that you’re pouring into your ears, it’ll work out.
      And the propaganda of 1 channel in this sense is no different from yours.
      Only yours for destruction.
  8. +10
    16 July 2020 06: 56
    Everything is clear: in the Khabarovsk Territory the authorities are rotten, and Furgal came and put things in order, so the people became worried .. But another thing is not clear: do people live well in the Khabarovsk Territory or "bad"? If - "bad", then why: the authorities steal a lot and row everything for themselves, or the people have looked around, do not want to work, but want to drink vodka and dance in the squares. If it is good, then it is thanks to or in spite of Furgal and others like him .. There is no answer to this in the article. This is what it was necessary to start with, and not describe the technology of bringing the crowd to the square, although this is important, but for another article, for example, "How I organized and gathered a crowd to demonstrate and disobey the authorities." There it would be very useful and extremely interesting. Crowd control technology must also be studied.
    1. -6
      16 July 2020 07: 21
      you see ... he didn’t bring any order. he replaced all whom he dispersed with HIS PEOPLE! it is not restoring order but imitation. taking control. they always do that. not just him. the only difference is that he did it smarter with fanfare and bulging eyes. to the public. he was promoted by dozens of bloggers. which is also very smart and competent. all this is ordinary PR. a person who in the zero at the root of all competitors sawed out of business cannot restore order. all of them are either dead or disappeared or fled. nobody except for its controlled structures is engaged in and engaged in metal. What do you think how they achieve this? quite by accident his bodyguard crouched behind a racket. while honorably wearing the crusts of assistant deputy Furgal. but the fact that under Timoha a gang of 300 snouts did not know only probably blind or deaf. Do you want to read about their adventures? type in the search for a sports club Moses Khabarovsk .. and so their head and leader is Timofey, by a strange coincidence, the bodyguard and assistant of the deputy Furgal)
      1. +5
        16 July 2020 09: 41
        he didn’t bring any order. he replaced all whom he dispersed with HIS PEOPLE! it is not restoring order but imitation. taking control. they always do that. not just him. the only difference is that he did it smarter with fanfare and bulging eyes. to the public. he was promoted by dozens of bloggers. which is also very smart and competent. all this is ordinary PR. a person who in the zero at the root of all competitors sawed out of business cannot put things in order. all of them are either dead or disappeared or fled

        carstorm 11 is more accurate with such descriptions - they correlate very strongly not only with Furgal, but also with some personalities that live behind the red Kremlin wall. You may be misunderstood.
        1. -2
          16 July 2020 11: 59
          I actually said so, he’s not the only one) everyone is always clearing the clearing for their own people in a new place. he just made it smarter.
    2. -5
      16 July 2020 09: 20
      Quote: The Truth
      But another thing is not clear: do people in the Khabarovsk Territory live well or "badly"? If - "bad", then why: the authorities steal a lot and row everything for themselves, or the people have looked around, do not want to work, but want to drink vodka and dance in the squares. If it’s good, then it’s thanks to or in spite of Furgal and others like him ..

      It is not clear another.
      Is he a thug and a killer? If so, then I must be punished.
      Or what, forgive me, since he is so good? or just because he is not from EP?
      Do not you think this is nonsense?
      1. -1
        16 July 2020 10: 05
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Is he a thug and a killer?

        Yes, definitely.
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        If so, then I must be punished.

        No, of course not. A thug and a killer are not a problem at all.
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Or what, forgive me, since he is so good?

        What does "forgive" mean? There is nothing to forgive him for.

        Either the person, however sinful, - Furgal, Krasnoyarsk Bykov, Kadyrov - protects the interests of his region, or does not protect. Any details of his biography do not have the slightest significance.
  9. -11
    16 July 2020 06: 57
    Furgal life mater ... wassat
    I can’t breathe, it’s hard for me to rob and kill ... wassat
  10. +5
    16 July 2020 07: 11
    The author even reads what he writes? request

    On the one hand, he indicated:
    Outside was cast the “factory” group with megaphones and pre-prepared posters.

    On the other hand, he:
    All this speaks of what was spontaneous indignation of the people


    So this "element" threw it into the streets started the group and pre-prepared posters? This element printed, smashed and pasted tens of thousands of leaflets on the porches, boxes and streets? belay

    Miracles... request
    1. -4
      16 July 2020 09: 21
      He writes that he is one of those organizers.
      And as for the "spontaneous will of the people", they already have such a professional deformation. There is no other way to say, taboo.
  11. +8
    16 July 2020 07: 13
    Unanswered question (and I want to hear it); who checked it before appointment and what were the results of the check? If he, nevertheless, passed it.
    1. +3
      16 July 2020 08: 09
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Unanswered question (and I want to hear it); who checked it before appointment and what were the results of the check?

      Nobody will say this now, and if they do, then "they checked it was good, but it was bad ...". But this is where the "ubiquitous free" press, which will fit under any skirt imperceptibly, but everything was quiet here, or even vice versa, the differs were singing to Furgalu (like others). Or it all depends on the number of banknotes (preferably with the face of the President of the United States) put in the envelope, and not on the bank account.
      1. +1
        16 July 2020 08: 17
        It will be useful for the authorities to close those people who did this check ....
        1. +2
          16 July 2020 10: 06
          Quote: Zaurbek
          to close those people who did this check ....

          Why on earth? People did everything right.

          Do you want people to be elected as governors who have nothing to plant if necessary?
          1. +1
            16 July 2020 10: 16
            Do you want people to steer and know that they will put him at any moment?
            1. 0
              16 July 2020 10: 28
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Do you want

              What I want does not matter.
              Quote: Zaurbek
              taxied and knew that he would be imprisoned at any time?

              Naturally. Welcome to the real world.
              1. +1
                16 July 2020 18: 11
                Then do not be sorry ... and get the governor!
      2. -7
        16 July 2020 08: 18
        Yes, and where was Navalny? Why didn't you investigate Furgal and his family? Where is the brother? Where is the son? Who is the matchmaker?
      3. -2
        16 July 2020 13: 05
        actually a bunch of stuff about it. look for it.
    2. -1
      16 July 2020 09: 22
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Unanswered question (and I want to hear it); who checked it before appointment and what were the results of the check? If he, nevertheless, passed it.

      If we are talking about wealthy people, to prove that someone is actually a gangster and a murderer is very difficult, takes a lot of energy and most importantly time.
      1. +1
        16 July 2020 09: 50
        For this, there is a check of the competent authorities. They are empowered for this
  12. +9
    16 July 2020 07: 27
    I once had to organize thousands of protests and rallies.

    Here I would like to learn more
  13. +17
    16 July 2020 07: 44
    Too many forces inside and outside the country, ready to seize and rekindle it. The authorities, political and social forces should ponder and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all sectors of society and stop the presumptuous elite building the state “for themselves”.

    For twenty years Putin and his associates have been building "Russia for themselves."
    This is quite obvious.
    The beginning was laid in the creation of a "vertical of power".
    Cancellation of election of governors.
    Appointment of governors by the president from Moscow.
    At first, with the centrifugal tendencies of the dispersal of the regions, this was understandable.
    Strengthened.
    Slowed down.
    The second step is the creation of a "party of power".
    All those who previously stood at the trough and under no circumstances did not want to lose this place "joined" it with an amazingly fast pace.
    Luzhkov, Primakov, Patrushev are completely different in terms of ambition, intellect, and aspiration. And such were all in EP.
    Spiders with varying degrees of activity, unscrupulousness, aggressiveness were collected in the jar and decided to look at the process of obtaining a super monster, which would be ready for any abominations for "its own blood".
    Happened.
    Those that remained, as a result of selection, are the peak of meanness, arrogance, arrogance, neglect of both human moral standards and concern for the state.

    Then came the processes that clearly indicate that the interests of the people and the interests of the state, more precisely the authorities, are beginning to take diametrically opposite directions.
    The pressure of middle class entrepreneurs in many areas has begun.
    For example.
    If at the beginning of President Putin’s activity there were about 10000 mini-refineries, then after 5 years there were 1000 of them.
    I do not claim that they produced quality products. I do not claim that the local security forces (the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB) did not roof this business.
    But I affirm that the initiator of such a redistribution was Sechin. These samovars greatly interfered with him.
    The increase in housing and communal services tariffs, the appetites of the monopolies - this clearly did not win the love of either Putin or his team.
    The introduction of "Plato" is another "appearance of Christ to the people."
    This is where the concern is not about the population, but about "their neighbor."
    Those. even the solution obvious to any economist - increasing the financial burden on the business, at the beginning of the production and trade chain, which will inevitably lead to a rise in price, and a significant, final product, which inevitably hit the pocket of an ordinary buyer, did not become an obstacle.
    The main thing is "that dear friend" and his offspring receive billions of people's rubles.
    And people are a working substance that can and should be used.
    And if it is articulated, then press it to the nail - a matter of a month.
    Next is pension reform.
    Here Putin’s lack of principle manifested itself in all its glory.
    How many words were flowing and promises were made !?
    How was the "electorate" assured that there would never be an increase in age ?!
    And then bam!
    And the promises are forgotten. And public vows are forgotten.
    The pinnacle of impudence and complete isolation of the president and his pocket party was the pushing through of "amendments to the Constitution."
    The constitution was turned into a bogeyman.
    And the one who is obliged to protect her, the one who made popular promises not to touch her, himself became her grave diggers.
    Man completely lost the shore, because he never had a conscience.
    The last straw that filled the cup of patience was the "coronabesy".
    To drive people into their homes and apartments, to leave them face to face with multiplying problems, to give no guarantees of reducing pressure on either the business or the debts that appeared - this was the height of hypocrisy.
    Schools, kindergartens closed.
    Children stayed at home.
    And with them the parents.
    And for what means to support them?
    If parents do not earn.
    For savings?
    Yes, these accumulations are your fortunes with tariffs for gas, electricity, rents previously gobbled up.
    Not a penny of help.
    Not a gram of sympathy.
    Only meetings and meetings.

    The people know the price of what the government does.
    The herald of "eternal Putin" Volodin and his comrades are trying to convince everyone, and first of all themselves, that there is no Russia without Putin.
    Without Putin, there is no that gang of thieves who shamelessly robs our country.
    Without Putin, there is no Volodin.
    That is the main problem.

    There will be no reformatting except temporary mimicry!
    1. -4
      16 July 2020 09: 25
      Quote: demo
      For twenty years Putin and his associates have been building "Russia for themselves."

      And others, if they came to power, what would they begin to build for you?
      Nothing of the kind, just the same, for your loved ones.
      Do you personally believe that all these fighters for national happiness really want to achieve it precisely for the people?
      1. +5
        16 July 2020 10: 28
        I am not an idealist, I am a realist.
        And I know what people, for the most part, can and do not for themselves, loved ones, but for society.
        When I was a schoolboy, I only saw my father on Sunday.
        And then, not always.
        Since Monday, at 7.00 he is not at home - he left for work, and at 21.00 he is not at home yet, he has not arrived from work.
        And so 17 years in a row.
        He worked as a manager of a road construction trust.
        I didn’t steal, I didn’t do home posts, I didn’t enrich myself.
        Plus, he defended his thesis. He became a candidate of science.
        Orders and medals from the state.

        When the children, his grandchildren, were small, then walking around my hometown, I showed them one building or another and said that your grandfather began to build it.
        And this story is associated with this building.
        And here an emergency happened.
        Then, having matured while traveling with children around his region, he showed them to feedlots, sugar factories, field airfields, schools and hospitals.
        And everything conveyed to their attention.
        For the children to understand, a person is valuable not to the stolen money, who both came and went, but a person is valuable by his work. And not in your pocket, but for the good of the country.
  14. +11
    16 July 2020 07: 51
    I am from Khabarovsk.
    The material is not just empty, it is confusing.
    ... to the peak of the candidate imposed from above, who gained contempt with his previous, to put it mildly, corrupt activities

    The previous Governor Shport practically did not conduct his company in September 2018. Nobody really imposed him.
    And he aroused contempt in wide circles for his servility and isolation from the earth. His millionth salary, reports to the President on the average salary in medicine at 50000 rubles and others. Well, the pension reform shot on time.
    ... removing the corrupt structures of the previous governor and improving the working environment for local businesses.

    ... and put his corrupt :)) Well it is, a joke. What I do not know, I do not affirm. But he didn’t remove anything corrupt. The local high officials who got Furgal from Sport were cleared by the feds. And this positive process was attributed to Furgal by his PR specialists.
    About improving the conditions for business - I would really like to know what the author means.
    He did not quite arrange the central government, allowed himself harsh remarks and refused to follow the local representatives of United Russia, but for the time being they tolerated it.

    The fact that he somehow did not suit the Center, you need to back up at least something. In fact, Furgal at every opportunity spoke of full support for the policy of the President of the Russian Federation. Loyalty was complete. In addition, all these incomplete two years, the financing of the Khabarovsk Territory by the federal center has been continuously growing. And Furgal emphasized it everywhere, branding with his peculiar verb those who invent evil slander against the Kremlin :)
    In general, a strong figure does not emerge from him in any way. A superficial populist who got on a wave, and after having destroyed his site with promises given during the period of the elective company.
    Yes, I looked at Nadya Old here. For nine years, we have crouched 13 governors and ex-governors. 12 people - bribe and excess. One Furgal thunders across the country with accusations of swearing felony, as the customer of the killings.
    1. +4
      16 July 2020 09: 02
      BigRiver, Governor Furgal does not like the Kremlin because he is from the Liberal Democratic Party.
      The course is clearly visible to reduce the number of opposition parties in the State Duma, with only one year left before the elections. They make it clear to the electorate: if you want the governor not to sit, but to work, choose who we need, not you. You can't say this out loud, but in fact it happens. The fact that Furgal is from the Liberal Democratic Party is a concession to the indignation of the masses: why are all the governors from United Russia? Was there such an outrage? It was. Well, here you are from the Liberal Democratic Party, and then we will show you who he really is and remove. And it is even good for the authorities that the people are indignant. By removing Furgala, the government will show "unbending will." The road is being cleared for the party of a new appeal - People against Corruption (NPK) of Roman Putin, the president's cousin. It would be necessary to study the biography, until the information was wiped out from the Internet.
      1. +2
        16 July 2020 14: 51
        Quote: depressant
        BigRiver, Governor Furgal does not like the Kremlin because he is from the Liberal Democratic Party. ...

        We have in Russia a dozen governors from the Communist Party, LDPR, and SR.
        Someone from the LDPR still pressed? One, in general, as far as I remember, has been a guber since 2012.
        In order not to engage in conspiracy theories, just grab and raise the information for those 13 cases for governors in 9 years, about which I spoke.
    2. +4
      16 July 2020 09: 05
      not one, all who were Before him, too, "thundered", especially if you take the last time it is Belykh.
    3. -2
      16 July 2020 09: 27
      Quote: BigRiver
      About improving the conditions for business - I would really like to know what the author means.

      What is there to know.
      “Improving the business environment” is meant only for our own people. This is the only way, and nothing else.
      But for fighters with the regime, this is still correct. They need it, take everything from some, and give it to others, to their leaders.
    4. 0
      16 July 2020 13: 13
      The previous Governor Shport practically did not conduct his company in September 2018. Nobody really imposed him.
      He merged !!!
      Question: why?
      Furgal
      performed in the gubernatorial elections in 2018 the role of a technical candidate and at the last moment refused to withdraw his candidacy

      Question: why?

      Edra shorts merged
      A van from LDPR unexpectedly headed, although it was supposed to merge.
      It happened in 2018.
      ---
      Someone started their "game", created a position for future political victories.
      But the position "burned out" too early.
      bully
  15. +3
    16 July 2020 07: 56
    "The authorities, political and public forces should think and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all strata of society and stop the presumptuous elite building a state" for themselves "" - yeah, they will run straight ... and why was it spent then so much effort to fit "for yourself" ...
    1. +1
      16 July 2020 08: 27
      Quote: unaha
      "The authorities, political and public forces should think and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all strata of society and stop the presumptuous elite building a state" for themselves "" - yeah, they will run straight ... and why was it spent then so much effort to fit "for yourself" ...

      You sho Well this will have to introduce socialism !!!!
      1. +2
        16 July 2020 19: 56
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: unaha
        "The authorities, political and public forces should think and take steps to find a way to reformat the state and its institutions in the interests of all strata of society and stop the presumptuous elite building a state" for themselves "" - yeah, they will run straight ... and why was it spent then so much effort to fit "for yourself" ...

        You sho Well this will have to introduce socialism !!!!
        under socialism ALL(!!!!!!!) Lenin Guard - Trotskys / Zinovievs / Bukharins / Kamenevs / Rykovs / and further, further, was "reformatted" in the interests of all layers Society ??? Won Th ......
        This is just the "presumptuous elite" of that time ...
        For example, I see 100% similarity - between then and now ...
        The managers are reformatting the apparatus for themselves ... Then they could slap like an "enemy of the people" - now they will jail as a murderer
        And just do not - that they then for work shot everyone lol lol, for "espionage and sabotage" ....

        Power shared power - that’s all the reasons, what now what then...
      2. 0
        16 July 2020 20: 51
        On this topic, I remembered how Grudinin, out of stupidity, muttered something about nationalization. And then there was a "political pause" for 2 days in the mass media, a kind of "white silence" for Jack London.
  16. +2
    16 July 2020 08: 00
    I once had to organize thousands of protests and rallies. There is a certain regularity in their preparation and conduct.
    Thanks to Yuri for the article, it is rare now that anyone would say such a thing about himself. And the article is a plus, since you know this whole kitchen from the inside. The rallies in Ha are organized, and the LDPR's ears are in plain sight, but the people also supported. In Khabarovsk, Furgal was an alternative to the current governor. And here is the question, if Furgal is accused (not yet proven) of a number of crimes, then what was the previous governor, if the people defend Furgal. Apparently the formula "Vova landing, does not work" upon appointment. I expect 30% minuses for my negative.
    1. -2
      16 July 2020 09: 29
      Do not expect, here you have many like-minded people, a whole gang.
      Everything you have here will be fine.
      1. +3
        16 July 2020 09: 37
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Do not expect, here you have many like-minded people, a whole gang.

        I was right, even more than 50 percent.
  17. BAI
    +17
    16 July 2020 08: 04
    Obtaining such an admission implies a thorough check by the authorities of the entire biography to the second knee, and his involvement in criminals could not have slipped away.

    Abramovich was the governor of Chukotka. When he was in charge of Sibneft, there was a train of murders no less than Yukos. However, one went to jail and the other went to buy Chelsea. Nobody cares about the past as long as political views are satisfied. Yes, one can recall Kadyrov, who himself confessed to the murder of Russian soldiers.
  18. +3
    16 July 2020 08: 25
    I’m embarrassed to ask, but still .... where did the author organize rallies of thousands and why?
  19. +2
    16 July 2020 08: 30
    Protests in Khabarovsk. What was it?
    Definitely not Furgal. All require change. What are Furgal’s checks? Moscow received a certificate from the local FSB unit, which has also taken root
    Obtaining such an admission implies a thorough check by the authorities of the entire biography to the second knee, and his involvement in criminals could not have slipped away. He was approved by the Governor, which means that he passed the test.
    1. +1
      16 July 2020 09: 39
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What are Furgal’s checks? Moscow received a certificate from the local FSB unit, which has also taken root

      That's the truth, thanks.
  20. +2
    16 July 2020 08: 59
    Only one thing is clear that the authorities arrested Furgala not for some crimes 15 years ago, but because he was interrupting someone at the moment.
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    2. -4
      16 July 2020 09: 41
      Quote: tatra
      Only one thing is clear that the authorities arrested Furgal not for some crimes 15 years ago

      This will be decided by the court, but not by an individual.
      1. +6
        16 July 2020 10: 09
        Quote: tihonmarine
        It will decide the court

        Funny joke.
        1. 0
          16 July 2020 10: 37
          Quote: Octopus
          Funny joke.

          People have ceased to understand jokes now, the laptop and smartphone have been weaned from jokes and laughter. People began to perceive everything only in two dimensions, or "who agrees with me, or disagrees." Good mood for you today.
  21. +6
    16 July 2020 09: 00
    Until the propaganda soldiers outrun the people with their expressed opinion, they will not calm down at all. Only he would sit and think about his sins. He said something from the heart, - looking - and this is not from the heart, but from paid enemies and intelligence agents.
    There are talking heads in the box, writing pens on the net - everything is in the service, and all are noble.
  22. -3
    16 July 2020 09: 15
    Protests in Khabarovsk. What was it?

    And as if casually:
    He served as a technical candidate in the gubernatorial elections in 2018 and at the last moment refused to withdraw his candidacy

    But the answer lies precisely here, and therefore again:
    at the last moment refused to withdraw his candidacy

    Why, quite to himself, the system (he was a member of the system LDPR) politician refused, in fact, to be a system?

    Just do not slip away from this issue.

    In it is the answer, and not in these "people came out", "people supported" and so on.
    ---
    and the plenipotentiary who arrived in the Far Eastern Federal District Trutnev did not find anything clever to say and said that the leadership of the Khabarovsk Territory was not fulfilling its obligations to attract investment in the region. In his understanding, apparently, only this led to protests.

    And on the other hand: "I arrived, I said something about investments" ... and why then everything began to decline ?! bully
    ---
    A certain force was preparing a position for future success, and the position suddenly began to smoke before the time. request ...
    The same force was taken and sent to extinguish, otherwise no political future.
    Question: Will the force cope with the "smoke" or not?

    Z.Y. And behind the force (which may not even suspect it) there may be other, ominous forces.
  23. +3
    16 July 2020 09: 31
    "Down with the power of Moscow!" ... And what is the "wrong" slogan? Why be ashamed of him? Moscow has long become a symbol of everything negative, concentrated in the ruling regimes! In general ... the ruling regime is increasingly beginning to resemble the Moscow that is described in Voinovich's book "Moscow 2042"! Once upon a time, this book ("novel-utopia" ...) was considered anti-Soviet ... in it Voinovich described his vision of "the USSR in the future" ... of the USSR that it could turn into if the "Great Stagnation" continue and there will be no changes in politics, economics, state structure ...! When the ruling regime was completely concentrated in Moscow and "on Moscow"! What is Gen. Sek worth, who escaped from the problems, officials to the space station and from there led the country ("Moscow"), simultaneously performing the functions of a traffic police inspector! How similar it is to the case when, during the construction of some distant village for the fire victims, video cameras were installed almost in Putin's bedroom so that he would follow the progress of construction (!) ... well, and probably, he would guard the building materials! There is no one else! Oh, not in vain, from time to time, there are calls to move the "state bodies" to other cities! Will the "Moscow clan" allow it?
    1. +3
      16 July 2020 09: 45
      Nikolaevich, sorry, you should have a hangover, perhaps, your eyes correlate ... Is it okay that all these judokas came to Moscow from St. Petersburg ?? They all come from St. Petersburg, they just came in large numbers to Moscow !! They also found the "Moscow clan" ...
      1. 0
        16 July 2020 11: 09
        Quote: Galleon
        They all come from St. Petersburg, they just came in large numbers to Moscow !! They also found the "Moscow clan" ...

        Well, judokas may also be from St. Petersburg ... and the "Moscow clan" is a trend, however ... "style" ... a stable formation with a desire for continuity! So ... even judokas from St. Petersburg, even karate fighters from Magadan ... everything is decided by "assimilation", which Putin likes to talk about sometimes ...
        1. +2
          16 July 2020 11: 28
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          .. even judoka from St. Petersburg, even karate from Magadan ...

          and Moscow will be guilty in any way ... No.
          What is your stereotype?
          Would you even know how in the first decade of the reign of pu squeezed Moscow business these arrived kids. Then, after eating everything in the capital, they spread to the rest of Russia
    2. 0
      16 July 2020 10: 46
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Oh, not in vain, from time to time, there are calls to move the "state bodies" to other cities! Will the "Moscow clan" allow it?

      Organs can be transferred even to the Pole, but those sitting in the organs will remain the same.
  24. +9
    16 July 2020 09: 46
    In my opinion, everything was simple for Putin and his Ep were not forgiven for the pension robbery, they took away 5 years of life and about 1 million rubles. from each pensioner, with the increase in fat, VAT, the increase in gas prices, to compensate the losses to the oligarchs. This is still not enough of those with whom he spoke for United Russia and Putin will go only a miserable 5-10%. These are purely protests in spite of Putin.
  25. +3
    16 July 2020 09: 50
    He didn’t quite arrange the central authority, allowed himself harsh statements and refused to follow the local representatives of “United Russia”
    ..That is, the leading and directing in the country of the EP, and the whole multi-party system is a fiction .. smile all sorts of SR, the Communist Party is the sleeve of one overcoat, EP?
    1. +3
      16 July 2020 10: 20
      This has been obvious for the last 20 years ...
    2. +2
      16 July 2020 10: 36
      Quote: parusnik
      all sorts of CP, Communist Party

      Let me remind you that the content of the activity any political party is the open harassment of political power. That is, if you do not understand, come to the polls, win the election of candidates from other parties and non-partisan self-nominated P, sit in the Kremlin, take an inventory, if anyone of the former, he got into trouble - to plant, and then begin to change the country as the voters of this party consider it right.

      This is in theory.

      What political parties in Russia do you know? Separately, the Communist Party lovers-the Communist Party has already won, and what was it with the government?
  26. +4
    16 July 2020 10: 25
    When asked, who benefits, the answer lies on the surface: the environment behind the governor’s arrest, which really leads by region.

    the removal of the "people's" governor excited the population, and the Furgal team, apparently, on time made a fuss and launched a call on the network to collect.


    Well now it’s at least clear how rallies are organized in support of the nullified ..
  27. +2
    16 July 2020 10: 30
    . Without the attitude of the masses of the population to protest, no preparation and finances are able to gather so many people. This is an objective reality, and we must reckon with it.

    Everything is correct. Few people came out to protest, many more were dissatisfied. But not many people, yet, believe that with such actions, something can be changed.
  28. -3
    16 July 2020 10: 52
    Protests in Khabarovsk. What was it?

    Paid protest against the current government. The zealots of local zealots leaped up, and here the people and balamamut. Yes
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  30. -1
    16 July 2020 11: 33
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    That is, he is clean on the part of the FSB, and the Bastrykinites and other "law enforcement officers", right? And then SUDDENLY they take him by the tsugunder and drag him to Nerezinovsk. The question is: how could this happen? Where was everyone looking BEFORE this day?

    No not like this. Teach materiel, so as not to produce such nonsense.
  31. 0
    16 July 2020 11: 34
    Who will get the cut budget money, how it will be dispersed - this is a defining question for each government. And the locals want, but a bunch of them and the central demand "their". So the governor needs to be spinning, Furgal, apparently, could not divide, something he lacked. Many people can hang noodles on the electorate, but they can cut them (they can get it, who doesn’t understand) so that all important and decisive people get, if not everything they wanted, then enough and agree with this - you need to be able to.
    They didn’t share budget money, local with central or somehow with someone else. Likely. A popular electoral herd may not be worried. Appoint new shepherds.
  32. -1
    16 July 2020 11: 43
    Since Furgal was closed on charges of organizing a murder, then there is (appeared) hard evidence of this. Perhaps now split the accomplices. According to Art. 105 of the Criminal Code, the statute of limitations may not apply. So they closed the KILLER. Is this right? Yes.
    Remember the case of Senator Izmestiev. Similarly, everything was and the senator left for the pancreas.
    Is there a political background? It doesn't matter in this case, because the murderer must be punished ... Well, since there hasn't been a trial yet, I use the term "murderer" exclusively to reduce the number of letters in the text ...
    But the people who protest, they are for the killer to be free? So either provocateurs or duped ... or both ...
  33. +2
    16 July 2020 12: 50
    In fact, everything is much simpler, recently a bulk movie was released, in which he showed the deputy mayor, United Russia, a careerist, there is nothing on him, but on the mother-in-law and the country house and Lexus and a bunch of everything, he resigned, and The prosecutor’s office suddenly opened her eyes, and asked the question: who is this and where does the money come from, but how many of these bureaucrats are there? In addition, Furgal clearly pressed the officials, they canceled the prizes, the effective ones immediately rushed, now there is a set, but there are no special ones. The yacht is a long history, everyone knows about it, but about the sale of one apartment in Khabarovsk, after losing the pier, some of the other regions know, the wife said she was very similar to the museum, since there was a bed and a golden push, many connected with it with a sport, since he changed our city to Moscow, there was one more performance of the sport before the second round that he and Furgal agreed that Furgal was going to his depot, only after that they learned that it was an installation, since part of Furgal’s phrase was cut out, in which he said that if he lost the election he would gladly accept the invitation to the sport, that’s all well-characterized by United Russia players, well, at least we have, moreover, the statements of different athletes, well of those champions for whom we they were sick about how much, to whom and where to give birth, and UTB asks them about it, as well as eating macaroni, and this is all that gave such an effect, well, besides, there was no increase in wages for state employees, since in 2008 we have a crisis, but oh But everything does not stop in any way, and 50000 of the current thousands of 2010 is far from the present money with their rising prices for fuel and products. Moreover, here in the Far East we live, in principle, on Chinese fruits and vegetables, which, regardless of the fruit, taste the same and closed the borders during the virus, our local farmers somehow stopped putting their products on the shelves, probably a coincidence, and after all of this, when the people are so warmed up, well, everyone and everyone is sending it, besides, our Gazprom forgives the debts of some of our citizens, but not all, we have a couple of hundredths to get gas from the SIBERIAN FORCE, well this is also the big picture, here the governor’s arrest is being drawn, and what kind of arrest, how they wrapped his hands, fastened them with handcuffs, then they really took it off, he just rubbed his wrists, it seemed that he was very dangerous and could bite the alpha, which they just didn’t understand, because the people chose it. In addition to everything else, the co-owner of Amur-Steel, a plant in Komsomolsk, was arrested before, because they gathered to pull the bridge to Sakhalin, and this is how many metal structures are needed, what kind of money, here the co-owner is in a Moscow jail, they say he is an oncological patient, give, well, he sold his 25% of the shares, right in the Moscow pre-trial detention center, and apparently signed a leaflet with testimony against the governor, moreover, there are rumors that Furgal started an allergy to latex, well, he’s in peppers there, there’s no medicine they give me warm things to transmit niiiizzzyayayaya, the virus is it, I’m deeply uninterested in knowing what you want from people, they practically scoff at their chosen one, but they will be silent, I'm afraid that they have chosen the wrong region. Another story with Ishaev, where he’s 5 cartoons somewhere to do things, here we have fun from this, since his grandson, after he broke an expensive high-speed tarantas, went and bought another the next day.
  34. 0
    16 July 2020 14: 42
    Very good, I would even say - excellent analytical analysis. But I would like it to be confirmed by photographic materials, for example, how to distinguish the "ringleader" in the crowd, or some kind of liberal
  35. 0
    16 July 2020 15: 58
    Stock paid with bloody money!
  36. +4
    16 July 2020 15: 58
    And I would put the protest in Khabarovsk on a par with the protests in Arkhangelsk against the landfill in Shies. In our North, too, so many people never came out for any reason, people are not hot and not hot-tempered. But "I'll get there - I won't let you down!"
    It's not against the governor, it's not even about United Russia or some kind of LDPR ...
    This: "Hey there, on the mountain! Get down to earth! Stop staring at the blue skies and blinking! And then the manure will soon flood your mountain!"
  37. +3
    16 July 2020 16: 24
    Quote: Dante
    Apparently the previous governor was so "good" that he managed to lose the election to a technical candidate. Quite indicative, isn't it?

    IMHO - in 2018 with Grudinin the same story was. Agreed in the AP, it seems, as a technical candidate, but he took and fired. I had to urgently organize an anti-campaign in the media, talk about foreign billions, etc. And then Pavel Nikolayevich still comes around.
    By the way, Zyuganov also threw him as Zhirik now abandoned Furgal.
  38. +2
    16 July 2020 16: 36
    Quote: Galleon
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    .. even judoka from St. Petersburg, even karate from Magadan ...

    and Moscow will be guilty in any way ... No.
    What is your stereotype?
    Would you even know how in the first decade of the reign of pu squeezed Moscow business these arrived kids. Then, after eating everything in the capital, they spread to the rest of Russia

    Yes, a joke in the early 2000s took place in Moscow.
    - Good afternoon, we are coming to you from St. Petersburg!
    “Why are you scaring me right away?”
  39. +3
    16 July 2020 16: 52
    In general, I agree with everything in the article, except for one paragraph. About posters and megaphones. I am a Khabarovsk citizen and I myself was there on Saturday.
    On Friday evening in one of the city squares the owner of one of the private printing houses was distributing posters and leaflets. I printed them at my own expense. Believe it or not, this is not the case here)). He said that they would print at night too. In some of the photos on the Internet, there is a procession with photographs of Furgal (as in the demonstration of photos of members of the government). There was no such thing. Photoshop is. The offer to go out on Saturday sounded on Instagram on Friday under the video with the arrest, after the report of the arrest. He was immediately supported and carried on social networks. At first, there were no megaphones. The people simply gathered near the square. The square was fenced off and there was an inscription “for disinfection”. Conjectures begin that on purpose. I cannot rule it out, but since this is a place of mass festivities, it is usually disinfected on Saturdays, though in the morning. When there were already a lot of people, some old man pushed aside the fence and everyone piled into the square. There they shouted in chorus and went on a demonstration around the city. Having made two circles along the central streets, we came to the administration building, and only then the deputy and press secretary came out with two weak megaphones. In general, the audience themselves felt the shock of the number of those present.
  40. 0
    16 July 2020 21: 13
    A repentant murderer that improves the life of a common people. And the Kremlin hucksters with their foreign partners, who destroyed the industry of Russia and squeeze the last out of the people.
  41. 0
    17 July 2020 09: 25
    Dominated by bandits from the 90s. Clean ones are not allowed there, not managed. wassat Even GDP itself requires absolution by law. A cat knows whose meat has eaten! wassat
  42. -1
    17 July 2020 18: 58
    A wagon is who. Maybe it’s not merit, but the skill of serving?
    Part No. 3 / Rewarding the uninvolved and the punishment of the innocent!
    This is a small country of telegrams!
    And what did he do so outstanding for the region?
    - and nothing, he just did what he was doing, and at public expense, promoting his image as a successful governor. And recently, in general, he spat at everything and was busy only protecting his commercial interests on Amurstal.

    And those who actively use the telegram messenger took to the streets in an amazing way. Where he has long set up his bots, which write to the order (he still tried it in the elections of the governor). And whoever came across all sorts of social networks, then knows that an algorithm works there, which is designed for sticking out negative and overwriting positives. And a few skillful anonymous "pimple-button pimples" can easily make a hero out of a killer, and a bastard out of a hero! Well, a bit of cash, and - propaganda posters without signatures, “free” stickers of the desired format, etc.

    So this is the achievement of commerce - zombie technology and nothing more.

    As for his crimes, they were not a secret for law enforcement agencies; he simply had powerful patrons. And so many people know how he fought with his competitors, and his favorite fun was to throw ammunition to his competitors in scrap metal and it was in scrap metal, and then, just miraculously, the police found them.

    And all that is presented for his personal merits, that a certain movement of social programs began in the region under him, this is all done with federal money, and these programs were adopted when Shport was still - among the common people of Mr. "nishtyak".
    (From the idea of ​​construction to implementation, kindergartens or schools take at least three years.
    And he was the governor only for two years) So "zalipushka" turns out!

    But against his background, he really looked like an angel, and all because Mr. "nishtyak" during his reign, from the best city in the Far East, managed to make a city of pensioners.
    And the whole trouble is that this mister "nishtyak" was appointed by Putin, and naturally the inhabitants of the region perceived him as a direct representative of the Kremlin.

    One should be more careful when appointing such a level of officials - gentlemen bosses!
    So part of the blame for this bedlam lies with the Kremlin, and this figure only just skillfully took advantage of this.


    Interesting: Under Ishayev’s rule, the provincial city of Khabarovsk turned into the capital of the Far East of European level.
    And when he was arrested, no one came out to rally.
    So maybe the matter is not at all in merit, but in the ability to present the necessary in a favorable light?
  43. -1
    17 July 2020 19: 39
    Let the court deal. But judging by what I saw on the footage, suckers obviously pumped up with specific tasks were running around who roused the crowd and shouted chants in the technical style of Maydauns to keep the crowd in constant tension. It is clear that there were those who really came to protest, but given the speed of the organization of the "protest" and its structural organization and management, I do not believe in spontaneous expression of will.
    1. 0
      19 July 2020 02: 45
      You can not believe as much as you like. The people came out on their own. There were no pumped-up suckers. Does Pukin forbid you to watch the protest videos on YouTube? Yesterday there were about half a hundred thousand people. My friends bought water for their personal money. And I would go out if I was in Khabarovsk. It is disgusting to insult the inhabitants of the Far East for expressing their opinion.
  44. 0
    17 July 2020 20: 41
    Quote: Finches
    But in essence of the subject, I’ve already said everything, shut it down, that’s how it should be! The state has the right to violence, such is the situation! Whether we like it or not, it’s the cornerstone of the concept of the state in general! hi

    Amazing! Yes, the right to violence, or even the use of violence, is sometimes even duty state. But how does it follow that the state apparatus of violence is included right and when the Supreme Ruler's left heel was combed? No, dear comrade. It is impossible to turn the Supreme Law of the country into toilet paper - and not get a total disregard for any laws at the end. That's where all the dancing comes from. And not at all from "such selyavi".
  45. 0
    18 July 2020 06: 43
    We have a special attitude towards protests: firstly, they look at how the West reacts to it, and secondly, they want to view dissent as under the USSR. Although these are essentially different countries. Workers were suspended due to non-payment of wages, immediately the stigma-riot. They want the workers to work obediently and the rich to laugh at the same time. And why shouldn't they laugh when they can wear a mask of silence to any cry.
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  47. +2
    18 July 2020 10: 11
    Furgal is just an excuse. The discontent of the Far East has been ripening for a long time. Even in Vladivostok, salaries are 4-5 times lower than in Moscow, and prices are 2-3 (and higher) times higher. On the part of Moscow business, the approach towards the population is practically colonial. All the money earned by companies controlled by Muscovites goes to the capital. Almost all megaprojects are fiction. TOP and the Free Port as well. A cunning local business for kickbacks becomes their residents in order not to pay taxes. Signed pretentious contracts are issued for real investments. Moreover, some are renegotiated several times - at each EEF. Benefits for Far Easterners, which are loudly announced at the federal level, also turn out to be a hoax. For example, the government loudly announces about preferential air tickets, but no one there says that this applies only to small groups of the population. For example, children. And how will a child go to Moscow on vacation without parents? Nobody needs a Far Eastern hectare here, when the whole region is already a solid wasteland. The population is pouring out of here so that in the local media the process is already called evacuation. Even large cities cannot develop - most of the taxes are immediately transferred to regional budgets to support dying villages and villages. Far Easterners love Russia very much, but I would like Russia to remember them too. Everyone here is asking to move the capital to Siberia. Let all Russians have equal access to their capital. It is clear that then the ministers will have to fly longer on weekends to their home in London, but to save the country, and the question is already there, this must be done!
  48. 0
    18 July 2020 10: 27
    The author is right, the authorities should look more broadly at these events, and the people should not succumb to provocations, it is necessary to understand but calm. Any revolution is deadly for Russia, the limit has been exhausted. The authorities, on the other hand, must search for competent and decent managers and appoint them to leading positions. Put decent competent leaders at the helm of the regions and economic indicators will jump up, corruption will decline, and as a result, people will not be indignant. This is the only way out for Russia. A statesman is a person who cares about the people, not his own pocket.
  49. 0
    18 July 2020 16: 11
    the zone was deserved by all governors

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