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In the US, another test took place “drone with a pilot” Firebird

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In the US, another test took place “drone with a pilot” Firebird

Manned Firebird


In the USA, another test of the promising optionally manned reconnaissance aircraft Firebird (Firebird) took place. Specialists from Northrop Grumman tested the aircraft with a quick change of on-board equipment.

According to the company, during the tests, the aircraft made four flights lasting more than 10 hours each, having completed several reconnaissance missions, during which it collected intelligence, searched for people, found gunpoints and carried out mapping. Tests were conducted at the San Diego training ground in California.

The first flight of the optionally manned Northrop Grumman Firebird took place in February 2010, and later a closed demonstration was held for Pentagon officials. According to the developers, the successful completion of the test cycle that is currently underway can lead to mass production of this machine.


Unmanned version of Firebird

Firebird has a wingspan of 19,8 m, a hull length of 10,3 m. The maximum lift height is 9 km, the time spent in the air in an unmanned version is from 24 to 40 hours. Speed ​​- 250 km / h, maximum - up to 370 km / h. The maximum weight of the cargo is 562 kg. Flight range - up to 2,5 thousand kilometers. The device is equipped with both an internal compartment for equipment and external suspension points for container reconnaissance systems.

In the field, reworking from an unmanned to a manned version (and vice versa) takes only four hours, and a change of reconnaissance modules takes about 30 minutes. The main purpose is reconnaissance.

The company notes that due to the simple and robust design, Firebird can be used on aerodromes with poor coverage.
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  1. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 15 July 2020 13: 43
    -4
    The motto of VO seems to be: Not a day without an UAV!
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 15 July 2020 13: 57
      0
      Why do not our military give their own names to foreign weapons?

      This rubbish can be called Ghoul.

      So it would be clear who opposes us.

      And it will be easy for a soldier - He knocked down a ghoul and calmly in his soul. He did a charitable deed.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 15 July 2020 14: 03
        -4
        There is a group of people who are constantly looking for adventure on their ass.
        For such you can organize extreme tourism.
        Put this in this unit and send it on a combat mission.
        Only make a special version with a completely naked capsule. Without control systems.
        And in the chair is a toilet.
        The cost of the flight will be for the passenger equal to the real cost of the flight of the device.
        Business. Nothing personal.
        I think such a fun for the possessed just right.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 15 July 2020 16: 39
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        Quote: Vladimir16
        This rubbish can be called Ghoul.

        no, "Rama 2", especially since it looks like Rama ...
      3. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 15 July 2020 19: 43
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir16
        This rubbish can be called Ghoul.

        Why rubbish? A good device, according to its performance characteristics.
        Sorry we do not have something like that. On would hurt.
        1. HMR333
          HMR333 15 July 2020 20: 46
          -5
          Useless! There’s nothing you can’t remove from such a height, but to go down below so why is it needed then with its performance characteristics huge as for a UAV there are a bunch of smaller UAVs and smaller ones
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 15 July 2020 20: 54
            +1
            Quote: HMR333
            Useless! There’s nothing to be removed from such a height

            Your camera of course can’t really take anything off. But I hope the MO will have better equipment.
          2. Mikle2000
            Mikle2000 18 July 2020 18: 21
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            For radar surveys, on the contrary, the very thing. The review is large, the resolution on the range is weakly dependent (if only there is enough energy), fly and shoot at least in the clouds at least at night.
        2. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 16 July 2020 11: 19
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          good for what? chase the Papuans? with a speed of 250 km / h and a ceiling of 9 km, it is an ideal target even for the less advanced Houthis. yes
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 13: 01
            -1
            Quote: SanichSan
            good for what? Papuans drive?

            No, you have to drive the Papuans, and he is a scout. To find, for example, the positions of tactical missile systems, artillery, the accumulation of armored vehicles, etc., to discover the reserves of the adversary in the rear.
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 16 July 2020 13: 19
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              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              No, you have to drive the Papuans, and he is a scout. To find, for example, the positions of tactical missile systems, artillery, the accumulation of armored vehicles, etc., to discover the reserves of the adversary in the rear.

              in the air defense coverage area? Seriously? to discover? belay only in the dreams of couch theorists! soldier
              Amer’s won tried to detect in Iran and immediately broke request
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 13: 32
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                Quote: SanichSan

                in the air defense coverage area? Seriously? to discover? belay only in the dreams of couch theorists! soldier
                Amer’s won tried to detect in Iran and immediately broke

                That's for sure. The defense ministries of all countries are adopting reconnaissance drones due to the fact that all of them, the defense ministers, are couch strategists.
                You tell Shoigu, let him remove all UAVs from armament. Why are they? After all, wherever there are troops, there is an air defense zone. All the same, they beat everyone. Yes, and also remove the aviation, all. Air Defense Zone, Panimash. wink lol
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 16 July 2020 14: 47
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                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  That's for sure. The defense ministries of all countries are adopting reconnaissance drones due to the fact that all of them, the defense ministers, are couch strategists.

                  Of course not. for use in areas not covered by air defense, that is, as I wrote earlier, to drive the Papuans. soldier
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  You tell Shoigu, let him remove all UAVs from armament.

                  unlike you, Shoigu is smart enough to focus on small drones whose loss is not critical.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Yes, and also remove the aviation, all. Air Defense Zone, Panimash.

                  and clean. didn't you know it from your couch? out in 2008, a theorist like you sent Tu22M3 to reconnaissance and was shot down. even the Georgians could. the truth after that sharply came to their senses and began to suppress air defense. didn’t you know about it?

                  PS
                  for the good of the country, go to the American forum to advise. bully
                  PS PS
                  this project has a profit in the form of interchangeable equipment. it can be produced as a civilian for sale in large quantities and, in case of war, mobilized and converted into a drone. such a scheme with SUVs is organized. I repeat, as a drone is a consumable and in the air defense zone it does not scout anything. laughing
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 18: 02
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                    Quote: SanichSan
                    I repeat, as a drone is a consumable item and in the air defense zone it does not scout anything.

                    In Moscow Region they think differently. Probably not up to your heights.
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 16 July 2020 18: 05
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                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      In Moscow Region they think differently. Probably not up to your heights.

                      Which MO sends planes to the air defense coverage area? your fictional? lol
                      I already wrote to you, your theses are very valuable! on American forums yes
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 18: 15
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                        Quote: SanichSan

                        Which MO sends planes to the air defense coverage area? your fictional?

                        You are so smart that you even lost the thread of conversation. In fact, it was about reconnaissance UAVs (the topic of the article).
                        About the "air defense zone". And where is she not? Unless, some parts of the Siberian taiga have not yet been covered by it. The situation is very similar for the opponents. And, despite this, everyone is developing reconnaissance UAVs. And the drummers too. Stupid, I guess. Unlike you. hi
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 July 2020 18: 29
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You are so smart that you even lost the thread of conversation. In fact, it was about reconnaissance UAVs (the topic of the article).

                        planes you dragged. I answered.
                        on the UAV, the Turks adhered to your ideas, but having lost 14 UAVs, they changed their opinion to an adequate wink
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        And, despite this, everyone is developing intelligence UAVs. And the drummers too. Stupid, probably. Unlike you.

                        they are not. they drive the Papuans. laughing remember where it started?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        No, you will have to drive the Papuans, and he is a scout.

                        and so, in the air defense coverage area, an aircraft with a speed of 250 km / h and a ceiling of 9 km cannot reconnoiter anything. it’s just recycling the drone. and where to apply it? where there is no air defense. who has no air defense? among the most retarded. request
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 18: 33
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                        Quote: SanichSan
                        use? where there is no air defense. who has no air defense? the most backward.

                        Is our Defense Ministry going to drive the Papuans?
                        Here is the information on the next branch - Mo is going to adopt a helicopter-type UAV. wink
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 July 2020 18: 46
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Is our Defense Ministry going to drive the Papuans?

                        and in Syria, who do you think they drive? the color of civilization? laughing
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Here is the information on the next branch - Mo is going to adopt a helicopter-type UAV.

                        quite right. I wrote about small drones. not? don't remember it is a consumable. I will reveal to you a terrible secret! there is some difference between sending a UAV to the danger zone for 50000 rubles and sending a UAV there for $ 2000000. in about 2 lema greens. and the result is the same. yes downed drone.
                      5. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 19: 05
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                        Quote: SanichSan

                        quite right. I wrote about small drones.

                        I remember writing. He also wrote that he would be knocked down in an instant. He will not even have time to transmit intelligence information. And yet the Ministry of Defense orders it.
                        Probably so that the adversary's air defense men have fun. Well, following your logic, of course.
                        And according to my logic - they will shoot down something, something not, and they will provide valuable intelligence information. As my late father, a front-line soldier, used to say - "In the war, not without a dead man." Such is the salavi.
                        And listen to you like this - they will certainly knock you down, all 100%, they will not even have time to fly up. Calm down already.
                      6. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 July 2020 19: 45
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        And according to my logic - they will shoot down something, something not, and they will provide valuable intelligence information. As my late father, a front-line soldier, used to say - "In the war, not without a dead man." Such is the salavi.

                        in! another thing! finally sound thoughts! bully now go back to my words about the difference between a drone for 50000 rubles and 2 lama greens.
                        a drone for millions of dollars is not at all for "one in 100 to see something." there are not hundreds of them, even the United States has several dozen of them. for their use, it is necessary to suppress air defense or apply where there is no air defense.
                        the Turks decided to use your "brilliant" tactics and their drones ran out in 2 days request
                      7. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 20: 56
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                        Quote: SanichSan
                        in! another thing! finally sound thoughts!

                        So by default it was clear about this, but it comes to you with difficulty, if at all.
                        By the way, the more difficult, and therefore more expensive, the device is, the more difficult it is to bring it down. Or will you, according to your habit, argue for the sake of an argument, will you also argue?
                      8. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 July 2020 21: 08
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        So by default it was clear about this, but it comes to you with difficulty, if at all.

                        once again for those who are having a hard time ... request
                        a drone for 2 lyamas is not something they send so that they see something and fall. there are several dozen of them, not hundreds. This is not a consumable, but a valuable technique. in an article about the heavy expensive drone. this drone will work only in the absence of air defense or their fleet will end in 2 days like the Turks. yes
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        By the way, the more difficult, and therefore more expensive, the apparatus, the more difficult it is to knock it down.

                        just nonsense. request the cost of the drone is determined by the filling, that is, reconnaissance equipment. yes, it is very expensive.
                        now concentrate, gather your thoughts and try to figure out how expensive surveillance equipment will affect a rocket flying into a drone? will add another 250 to 2000KM / H or throw up a couple of dozen KM of the ceiling? Or do you think that the anti-aircraft gunners on the radar see the tsenik and if the drone is prohibitively expensive then they will not shoot? lol
                      9. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 21: 21
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                        Quote: SanichSan
                        unmanned aerial vehicle for 2 lam

                        Again, yes because, yes therefore. This song is good, start over.
                        I'm sick of you.
                        F-35 is even more expensive, plus a pilot. There is no point in releasing them either. because - anti-aircraft defense and anti-aircraft missile anyway what price and what expensive stuffing. He asked - calm down already, take a cold shower and go to bed. yes
                      10. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 July 2020 21: 28
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        F-35 is even more expensive, plus a pilot. There is no point in releasing them either. because - the air defense and the air defense missile do not care what the price and what the expensive filling.

                        and they do not fly where there is air defense. request the experience of the expensive F-117 taught something laughing
                        Once again, how high will this low-speed aircraft save from a rocket? if he blurted out, then be kind enough to formulate, or is it all the same nonsense blinded? laughing
        3. Mikle2000
          Mikle2000 18 July 2020 18: 24
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          Actually, the question of the ratio of exchange is always a question. How much exactly is the anti-aircraft battery that will destroy drones before it dies from the strike induced by these suicide bombers.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 July 2020 14: 13
    +2
    Why a pilot? Or they are waiting for sanctions from China to ban the supply of electronic components for remote control of UAVs. Then everything is clear who depends on whom in electronics.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 15 July 2020 14: 18
    +4
    My inquiring mind haunts me. The average speed is 250 km / h. The flight time is 24-40 hours, at least the flight range is 5500 km., And not 2500 km. It is written about the flight range. request
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 15 July 2020 14: 29
      +4
      The average speed is distillation, over the place of barrage, the speed is reduced to a minimum. Characteristics in the news are written crookedly.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 15 July 2020 14: 56
        +3
        Hope a fridge, pot and bed are included? 24-40 hours for one pilot is cool.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 15 July 2020 14: 59
          +1
          airborne time in unmanned variant indicated from 24 to 40 hours.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 15 July 2020 16: 28
            +1
            Putting a pilot in such an airplane for 40 minutes is ridiculous.
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 15 July 2020 16: 41
          0
          They are included in the package. Did they forget JACUZZI? But as in the old Soviet joke: And now let's see how we all take off with this !!!
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 15 July 2020 17: 55
          -2
          Quote: Pereira
          Hope a fridge, pot and bed are included? 24-40 hours for one pilot is cool.

          Which pot? Diapers. So that my wet childhood remembered. Suhpay, thermos. And sleep in a chair.
          1. HMR333
            HMR333 15 July 2020 20: 49
            0
            You sit in a chair for 24 hours without the opportunity to get up to walk and stretch yourself and then write!
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 15 July 2020 21: 31
              0
              Firstly, I’m asking you not to poke, you and I did not drink. Secondly, it’s not about getting up and walking, but about satisfying physiological needs. Thirdly, they don’t pay me for sitting in a chair, so I’m not going to try. Fourth, who said that in manned mode they are going to fly at full duration?
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 15 July 2020 15: 15
    +2
    Hmm .. they are likely to consider options in case of inability of their satellite constellation to perform their task in full or in part and / or in conflicts with the active use of electronic warfare.
    Although all this is possible and more mundane - options are being developed for compact aircraft for sabotage operations ..
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 15 July 2020 16: 00
      +4
      Rather, it’s just a technology demonstrator, is it possible, what are the problems, so it’s exactly what will go into the series, definitely not. For a citizen, it might make sense, by the way.
      And to make a fighter with which you can use in manned or unmanned mode simply replacing the cockpit is interesting. Moreover, this is one of the criteria of the 6th generation. But you have to start training on “cats”
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 15 July 2020 16: 11
      +4
      Boeing does something similar for an Australian UAV escort. Different head modules for different tasks.
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 July 2020 18: 50
      +2
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      and / or in conflicts with the active use of electronic warfare.

      It’s just a matter of time for the appearance of serious RED complexes even among different kinds of “slippers”.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 July 2020 16: 50
    +1
    Testing ideas in practice as with the x series of aircraft.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 July 2020 17: 04
    0
    Everything is simple with the pilot export option, without a pilot for yourself.
  • HMR333
    HMR333 15 July 2020 20: 40
    +1
    What a crazy heading! A drone with a pilot is a contradiction! Why would a pilot in an unmanned scout with such performance characteristics be bullshit to lose a pilot ?! For pilots, there is a plane with special equipment pendants if it counts, and let the drone itself fly without risk to the pilot and they are created for that!
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 15 July 2020 22: 05
    +1
    Quote: HMR333
    What a crazy heading! A drone with a pilot is a contradiction!


    To plant a "body" with a bulbulizer and charged crack into the cockpit and teach how to shout a banzai. A worthy answer to all future promising electronic warfare.