Azerbaijani Defense Ministry announces destruction of Armenian military facility

The armed conflict on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border, which broke out on July 12, continues on the third day. The clashes take place in neighboring regions - Tovuz and Tavush, a hundred kilometers from Nagorno-Karabakh, where the situation is calm now.

Meanwhile, according to the press service of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense, on July 14, the Azerbaijani military destroyed the Armenian military facility and military equipment of the Armenian armed forces in the Tovuz direction of the border.

In the course of hostilities in the direction of Tovuz district on July 14, another military facility of the Armenian armed forces, a company stronghold, was destroyed by the accurate fire of our units

- said the head of the press service, Colonel Vagif Dargyakhly, adding that in the future "the enemy’s military equipment was destroyed by exact fire."

In turn, the Armenian Ministry of Defense accused Azerbaijan of using the Grad MLRS.

Tanks - Not the heaviest weapons used by Azerbaijan. (...) used howitzers, MLRS "Grad"

- stated the representative of the Armenian Ministry of Defense Artsrun Hovhannisyan.

Towards evening, the Armenian side noted a decrease in tension at the border, which began around 18:00 (17:00 Moscow time).

There are few shellings, in any case there are no large-caliber shelling weapons

- stated in the Ministry of Defense of Armenia.

Recall that the armed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan broke out on July 12 at about lunchtime. It is not known who is to blame for the beginning, the parties shift the blame onto each other. In three days, the Azerbaijani side lost 11 soldiers, including the general and colonel, and the Armenian side claims the death of two officers and two soldiers.

Comments

[Finches]

Of course! Yesterday, the tomato sellers, supported by the Turkish, never setting sun, Sultan Erdogan, the greatest of the wise friends of Azerbaijan! Therefore, today you can put aside tomatoes, take a karamultuk from under the counter and rattle it a little ...

And for the Armenians, I would recommend choosing the right friends and prime ministers ... so as not to be left alone against sellers of tomatoes and their Turkish roof!

[Evil543]

And why did the Iskanders supply the Armenians?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Evil543

And why did the Iskanders supply the Armenians?

That would quietly stood on a shelf, and not wave them like a Papuan with a club.

[Zeev zeev]

In fact, it was a cunning plan of Israeli and Belarusian manufacturers to promote their products for a similar purpose. Russia delivered Iskander missiles to Armenia, in response, Azerbaijan purchased from the Republic of Belarus the Polonez MLRS (which uses high-precision missiles with a range of up to 300 km), and in Israel, LORA operational-tactical missile systems with a range of up to 430 km.

[VyacheSeymour]

and in Israel, tactical missile systems LORA with a range of up to 430 km

Up to 280-300 km with a warhead of 480 kg, up to 600 km with a warhead
up to 300 kg.

[raki-uzo]

And for the Armenians, I would recommend choosing the right friends and prime ministers ...

They chose long ago, but the chosen friends gave them weapons in hand and provoked a revolt against the state; when the Turks fought on the fronts, these "honest" Armenians attacked Turkish villages, killing defenseless women, children and old people. And then they had to move, so they still cry.

[Finches]

In ethnic conflict - both nations are to blame! And you need to be able to negotiate, and not to rattle with arms - any bad world is better than a good quarrel and is always beneficial to a third party! In this case, the Anglo-Saxons ... So to find out who writes on the wall above, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis will come out more expensive!

[Jack O'Neill]

And you need to be able to negotiate, and not to rattle with arms - any bad world is better than a good quarrel and is always beneficial to a third party! In this case, the Anglo-Saxons ...

C'mon, and then the Anglo-Saxons and where? To whom, but it is beneficial to us, Russia. We are the Armenians, the Azerbaijanis are bamming weapons. And it will be necessary - we will sell more. Business.

[Finches]

I'm sorry, you wrote some nonsense ...

[Jack O'Neill]

I'm sorry, you wrote some nonsense ... hi

And what is the "nonsense"? Isn't it profitable for us that the two sides lose equipment and then buy from us again? Profitable.
Or do you deny that we are arming the two sides of the conflict?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Isn't it profitable for us that the two sides lose equipment and then buy from us again? Profitable.

A military conflict, near our borders, with our ally is beneficial to us, what are you smoking?

[Jack O'Neill]

A military conflict, near our borders, with our ally is beneficial to us, did you smoke? fool

I’m wondering, write, why did Russia arm the two sides of the conflict, knowing that the weapons would be used? Why did we arm the enemy of our ally?
Do you want to say that we have fools at the top who do not understand basic things?
Like, but we’ll sell tanks to Azerbaijanis, and to Armenians. And what, because they will not fight, you will think that they have graters from the beginning of that century. Nah, they will not fight with our weapons.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

why then did Russia arm two sides of the conflict, knowing that the weapons would be used?

Parity provided. The most powerful of the parties refused to sell weapons.

[Jack O'Neill]

Parity provided. The most powerful of the parties refused to sell weapons.

To wet each other?

[Rakovor]

He does not know the meaning of the word "parity"))

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

why then did Russia arm two sides of the conflict, knowing that the weapons would be used? Why did we arm the enemy of our ally?

And here is Russia? We have influence and contacts with both republics.
You take an interest in whose weapons are in the republics and whose supplies. Starting from Belarus and Ukraine and ending with Israel and Turkey. Weapons on the market to heaven from China, USA (used), what is the problem? We will not allow a full-scale war, definitely. Our weight in the world is growing, let Turkey rest aside.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

why then did Russia arm two sides of the conflict, knowing that the weapons would be used?

Armed precisely in order not to be used. "The deterrent factor" is such a thing. And it’s not heard that the Armenians used the same Iskander, and Azerbajan - Solntsepyoki. The deliveries were made on a parity basis.

[genisis]

Azerbaijanis used TOS-2016A in April 1. And what's the point? To correctly apply, you also need to master the tactics of application. This is not a bullet from the MLRS. Here, a range of up to 6 km is maximum, if the ammunition allows. The Azerbaijanis rolled out Solntsekyok, and then the artwork worked for them. That's all application)

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Finches

I'm sorry, you wrote some nonsense ...

I do not agree. Not some, but huge, stupid and vile.

[Jack O'Neill]

I do not agree. hi Not some, but huge, stupid and vile.

Of course, after all, only the Anglo-Saxons profitable to sell weapons to the two parties to the conflict and have a profit from this.
And why "mean"?

[Andrey.AN]

because dumb. Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, Azerbaijan is not there, it cannot stay on the side of the Russian Federation, it’s necessary to put up some cakes with them, otherwise it will have to conquer Azerbaijan.

[Jack O'Neill]

because dumb. Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, Azerbaijan is not there, it cannot stay on the side of the Russian Federation, it’s necessary to put up some cakes with them, otherwise it will have to conquer Azerbaijan.

In the last batch, we were in no hurry with the help of Armenia.

[genisis]

Undoubtedly, the Collective Security Treaty comes into effect only when attacking a state party to the Treaty.
Artsakh is not a party to the contract. Moreover, Armenia generally does not de jure take part in hostilities on the side of the Republic of Artsakh. The Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and the Ar-Tsakh Defense Army are fighting.

[Jack O'Neill]

Undoubtedly, the Collective Security Treaty comes into effect only when attacking a state party to the Treaty.
Artsakh is not a party to the contract. Moreover, Armenia generally does not de jure take part in hostilities on the side of the Republic of Artsakh. The Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and the Ar-Tsakh Defense Army are fighting.

Oh, got it, thanks for the clarification!

[Oquzyurd]

You do not understand, just sat Armenian Noodles.

[Oquzyurd]

I have not seen more hypocritical fasting and lies. You are terrible people, not honor, not conscience.

[wmn5500]

Hello David. If you remember, we have already discussed with you the question of

Armenia does not take part in hostilities de jure

. And as it turned out, if you did not forget the fact of the presence of conscripts from Armenia proper, it clearly indicates the direct participation of Armenia in Karabakh precisely de jure.

[Farid Alekperov]

there is no such republic. There is a territory of highland and lowland Karabakh occupied by Armenia.

[Oquzyurd]

Nobody recognized this Poh-tsakh. If you do not have a conscience, at least have knowledge of international laws. Names of this territory are Karabakh.

[mace]

Why did you run away from your beloved Azerbaijan in Russia? Why not in the trenches on the border? And, I understand, fighting on the Russian forum is more convenient and safer, and living in Russia is more comfortable ....

[armenk]

No need to conquer anyone, the Armenians themselves figure it out.
It is necessary, not just to express concerns, but to call a spade a spade. The aggressor and the rulemaker should be called by his own name, and not scattered by general faceless phrases and calls to the parties. It is the absence of this fact that allows Aliyev to legalize military incidents on the border of Armenian states again and again.

[Ros 56]

Collapsed from the oak, dear? Well, to hell with us, we need this swara between our former republics. Reasoning like a stupid teenager.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Finches

In ethnic conflict - both nations are to blame!

Oh, not always. But in this case, I completely agree.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Finches

In ethnic conflict - both nations are to blame! And you need to be able to negotiate, and not to rattle with weapons - any bad world, better than a good quarrel

Already people are dying from both sides, even the general and colonel from the side of Azerbaijan died.

[the finish]

General-chief of staff of the corps, Colonel-chief of artillery of the corps, 2 majors and 2 lower officers.

[Pereira]

And you need to be able to negotiate

What to negotiate? On the surrender of Karabakh or on the assignment to Armenia? Or split in half?
What can you offer options for a contract that suits both parties?

[Stavros]

You wise guy tell me what happened to those Armenians who fought in your army.
The resettlement that you arranged for the Christian population, I wish your women, old people and children so that you cattle can feel it in your own skin.

[raki-uzo]

Is it you, you want to resettle? Arrange!

[Oquzyurd]

"so that you livestock feel" Your kind and tribe, livestock.

[mace]

go to your forums from here or have you forgotten your native language while sitting in Russia and using our kindness and hospitality?

[Oquzyurd]

Why don't you squeak anything to this "Stavros (Stavros)", because he is a provocateur here and throws insulting words against us, running into the same answer. What are the standards of approach in your brain?

[mace]

Because Armenia is our ally and partner, and you are dancing to the tune of the tomato sultan. After his statements about support, everything fell into place. He has problems within the country and your sultan too. How to solve them? Voynushka! But only the GDP has already taken control of the issue. So soon this "blitzkrieg" of yours will end. There is no need to go where there are Russian tanks and there are people who have not forgotten your cries about "slaves and prostitutes" in 1990-92.

[icant007]

It should be understood that from the very beginning of the Karabakh conflict in 1988, Armenia was an aggressor towards Azerbaijan.
It is a big mistake to consider Armenia our ally and partner.
The words that Armenia is a friend of Russia are just words. Political demagogy of the Armenian leadership.
Armenia is behaving towards Russia absolutely consumerist.
The marker of Armenia’s real attitude to Russia is the almost complete absence of the Russian population in Armenia.

In this regard, Azerbaijan is much more friendly to Russia than Armenia.
There is one of the largest Russian diasporas in Azerbaijan outside of modern Russia.

[mace]

yes, of course, and in 1990-92 they stood with posters "Russians - don't leave, we love and appreciate you")))

[icant007]

Yes, this was not. I myself and my mother left Baku for a while in January 1990. But after a few months we returned, and I did not feel any hostility from the local population. In the 90s, Russians left all the national outskirts.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: raki-uzo

when the Turks fought on the fronts

We need more pathos! This is already carbon monoxide, but until a little bit of homeric fun.

[Cypa]

Yerema again. So there was no genocide?

[novel66]

well, a little ... but they themselves are to blame!

[Farid Alekperov]

and why the hell to write a similar vyser? How does verbal support for Turkey affect the ability of the Azerbaijani army to hit Armenians at military facilities?

[Finches]

"Vyser" is yours, and if you have nothing more to say, then you wasted time and effort registering for VO - here people write comments, share opinions, they can argue ... but if you want "vyser" - then you are not here!

[Victor_B]

Flaring up ...
Alas...
That's who the fuck is not needed for this, so it's Russia.

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

So do not interfere. It is necessary to mobilize Russian Armenians and Azeris to fight the enemy and defend their homeland. Forward to the trenches. Do not give a penny and push more weapons.

[Finches]

Russia will not be able to stay away from this conflict, but it will be able to prevent massive bloodshed! Simple Armenians and ordinary Azerbaijanis place their hopes in this matter precisely on Russia, but there are difficult Armenians and difficult Azerbaijanis who benefit from the conflict!

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

Let them pin their hopes on themselves. Let our country act strictly out of national gain and period.

[Finches]

Peace in the neighboring and friendly republics is the main benefit of Russia!

[Andrey Stavropolsky]

Are Armenians and Azeris friendly to us? They are friends with those who give more. No need to argue with childish naivety about "fraternal peoples" and "peace to the world." We need to milk them and not us for them.

[Finches]

Honored milker of all Russia?
This is not naivety, but the centuries-old wisdom of the Russian people, called internationalism, and racism and exclusively the nation, this aglosax, are also noble milkers ..., someone else's blood!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

This is not naivety, but the centuries-old wisdom of the Russian people, called internationalism

And where is internationalism?
Armenia occupies part of the Azerbaijani territory, Russia supplies weapons to both sides of the conflict.
Armenia (actually the occupier) - in the CST.
Turkey is an ally of Azerbaijan ... and of course Russia , or not an ally, or partially - when each fig in his pocket --- so
And where is internationalism?

[Finches]

God's chosen people, for some reason lying under the devil-chosen people - still do not understand me! Or, more rightly, not accept ....

[RMT]

the word for the definition of "the age-old wisdom of the Russian people" - "internationalism" was invented by the Anglo-Saxons. Don't you feel the irony?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky

Let our country act strictly out of national gain and point

Trading to the people has already eaten up the brain to the middle. When a fire breaks out near the house, you suggest not to extinguish it, but to bargain for a miserable penny with wood and gasoline.
Russia, by supplying arms to this region, pursued, first of all, the goals of achieving military parity by the parties, often refusing to sell to the side that at this point in time could be stronger than the opponent as a result of this purchase and, as a result, be tempted to start a war again.
The profit that we received from these transactions is not at all great, on a national scale. And in any case, it’s not worth it for the two nations to take up the annihilation of each other again.

[Pereira]

It is better to extinguish according to the Klitschko method - by natural burnout. But the problem will resolve forever.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Finches

in this matter, they pin their hopes on Russia,

First they snatch away some kind of "independence" for themselves on the sly, then they oust (to put it mildly), all Russians, get involved in their interethnic squabbles, and then, Russia will help. No, like that yourself. If the country cannot defend its independence, but there was nothing then in 91, to fence a vegetable garden. There is another option, to dive under the wing of a strong neighbor. Only the union should be in deed, not in words. And then all are somehow cleverly done. "I play here, I don't play here, I wrap the fish here."

[Cyril G ...]

Did Armenia recognize Crimea by the way as Russian?

[orionvitt]

Recognize the Crimea alone, this is not an indicator. If you cooperate, then comprehensively and in all directions. But Yerevan, as always, is on its mind. Give it here, do it here, then give way, but we'll see.

[Cyril G ...]

Well, that is, did not recognize ....?! So this is quite a marker.

[genisis]

Crimea was officially recognized as Russian: Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Syria and North Korea.
Can you tell me what conclusion follows from your “quite a marker”?

[orionvitt]

Admitted what? On this you can round off, is life over? On this basis, now you can endlessly demand all kinds of nishtyaks from Russia? To recognize Crimea, it was the duty of Armenia as an ally of Russia (if it considers itself to be such), and it is not worth making an event of a universal scale out of this. But anti-Russian sentiments in Armenia are very strong. Or do they think that no one notices their games of "alliance"? Yes, they are visible through and through and their trust is zero. Tomorrow they will betray and believe that they are right. And while it is profitable for them to use Russia for their own purposes, they will stubbornly pretend that they are "allies."

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: orionvitt

Recognizing Crimea, it was the duty of Armenia as an ally of Russia (if it considers itself to be such),

The same goes for Minsk.

[RMT]

Why immediately in all directions? For neighbors, this rarely happens that would be soul to soul on all issues.

[mace]

Unofficially, yes. There have always been a lot of Armenians in Crimea and they are much more comfortable under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation.

[icant007]

I believe Armenians are comfortable in any country, if it is not Turkey and Azerbaijan)

[mace]

And what's wrong with that?
You'd better read interesting material from a completely non-"pro-Armenian" resource:
regnum.ru / news / polit / 2798288.html

[icant007]

You missed my sarcasm.
I meant that Armenians sometimes behave like more masters in a foreign land than the locals. Thus, they cause a naturally hostile attitude of the local population.

As for your link, I liked the author's assessment of the events taking place in Azerbaijan.
When I said that Azerbaijan is a greater ally of Russia than Armenia, of course I meant the potential for the development of relations.
But Russia, alas, does not want or does not know how to systematically work with the former Soviet republics.
By the way, the author Ismail Shabanov is a Talysh. And he, too, cannot be absolutely impartial in assessing Azerbaijani policy.

[fiberboard]

Right, right

[Stavros]

Nobody needs war. But the fact is that Aliyev has been repeating for 20 years that he only needs a few days to defeat Armenia, and now a situation has arisen, of course the people demand war, because in just a few days, if you believe the words of the president, you can defeat the Armenians. Aliyev is in an unenviable position.

[mace]

A few days have passed. Has anyone Aliyev seen in Yerevan by chance?))

[raki-uzo]

Hey, "honest" Armenians, and come here to us.

[genisis]

Where to you? This is a photograph from the territory of the Republic of Armenia. View of the Khor Virap monastery and Mount Ararat.
You take the same photo from the Turkish side, then invite))

[mace]

who are you, and where did they come from on this earth? Let's get started with that. And then we will not forget to remember thanks to whom your state appeared. Hint: this is the state where you are fleeing from your beloved Alievajan as soon as possible. And this is not Turkey.

[Sentinel-vs]

In public it is written that on the eve of the Armenians attacked the headquarters and was killed by Azerbaijani Major General Polad Gashimov and a number of officers and soldiers. (7 people).

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

Major General Polad Hashimov and a number of officers and soldiers were killed. (7 people).

It seems true that Azerbaijanis suffered sensitive losses

[Stavros]

Now the marshals will come running with rebuttals, they have the whole press in their baku and TV squealing about the losses, and here they tore and threw that there were no losses.

[Zeev zeev]

Azerbaijanis do not hide their losses, the names and titles of the dead are published in a few hours. On the Armenian side, the situation is absolutely opposite, if they acknowledge their losses, they are delayed by several days.

[VyacheSeymour]

On the Armenian side, the situation is absolutely opposite, if they acknowledge their losses, they are delayed by several days.

And then, for some reason, only publications and noise in social networks ...

[Stavros]

Some time ago, there was an article on the site about the production of Armenian drone drones. Brave Azerbaijani marshals staged a rzhach here, like no horseradish would work. The result, one hit and at the moment one general, colonel, two majors are waiting in line for the guri.

[VyacheSeymour]

Some time ago, there was an article on the site about the production of Armenian drone drones. Brave Azerbaijani marshals staged a rzhach here, like no horseradish would work. The result, one hit and at the moment one general, colonel, two majors are waiting in line for the guri.

Question: - Why did the Armenian media talk about the killed general and colonel only after publishing in the Azerbaijani media? Or are you sure that you are the only one interested in the situation, and all the others get it from you and yours
Interpretations - editions? Why do you have such a bad opinion about those present here?

Regarding the Armenian drones and precision strikes: - video-photo in the studio! - Or is it just your wishes?
Azerbaijan has already filled up an Internet video of the use of high-precision ammunition, but in addition conventional weapons are also used and it also takes lives and for the most part ... But for some reason, Armenia is silent about the losses? - but claims the loss of Azerbaijanis made public in AzSMI? And where are the same drones you mentioned?

[Farid Alekperov]

"The Armenian armed forces shot down about ten unmanned aerial vehicles of Azerbaijan, said the head of the information center created in connection with the situation on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border, Artsrun Hovhannisyan." Already 10 pieces! Everything you need to know about the reliability of the information provided by the Armenian Ministry of Defense) https://www.interfax.ru/world/717382

[uranium]

I do not think that the users of this forum are as naive as you are. If you think that the assassination of the general was carried out without the help of the center.

[Avior]

Dangerous situation
The war is not in Nagorno-Karabakh, but directly between Armenia and Azerbaijan

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Avior

The war is not in Nagorno-Karabakh, but directly between Armenia and Azerbaijan

And it is very dangerous! Azerbaijan in population is five times more than Armenia, it seems? And his mobresource is as many times bigger ... In terms of armament, approximate equality. Here, who has more resources can win. Only blood will be - knee-deep ... Who needs this? To the Turks? Iran?

[Avior]

Formally, Karabakh is not part of Armenia; it is, as it were, on its own, and is not a member of the CSTO.
But the territory of Armenia is another matter.
Previously, as I understand it, Azerbaijan fought with Karabakh, now there is a danger of war directly with Armenia

[icant007]

Quote: Avior

Previously, as I understand it, Azerbaijan fought with Karabakh, now there is a danger of war directly with Armenia

In the early 90s, when the USSR was still in existence, military clashes took place along the entire length of the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. Not only in Karabakh.

[Avior]

These are questions of legal classification.
Under the USSR, these were internal riots, after 1991, interstate hostilities.

[icant007]

These are not questions of legal classification.
These are questions of substance.
Armenia (illegal armed groups) attacked Azerbaijan. Rather, on the part of the SA and internal troops that defended the Azerbaijani villages.
She destroyed army warehouses directly on her territory, attacked military units.
The USSR no longer controlled the territory of Armenia by the summer of 90.

[VyacheSeymour]

Dangerous situation
The war is not in Nagorno-Karabakh, but directly between Armenia and Azerbaijan

Do you think Martians are fighting with the Venusians in Karabakh?

[Avior]

In my opinion, you did not quite understand what I wrote, there is a noticeable difference whether Armenia and Azerbaijan are fighting directly between themselves or in Nagorno-Karabakh.
The first draws more serious consequences.

[VyacheSeymour]

I understand you perfectly.

The first draws more serious consequences.

At one time, both republics were part of the CSTO ... and what did it give to someone? Both republics entered with the territorial
a dispute, and what? -someone intervened? .. And what do you think has changed since one of the members left the organization? - As Armenia entered with an unsolved problem, it remained with it in it! ... and someone you think will harness for her? So any inadequate will join the CSTO and drag problems with neighbors ...- and members of the organization will slurp shit with spoons, dissolving the problems of a sick member ???

[Avior]

They will join, they will not, but the scale of the conflict is growing noticeably.
I also don’t think that they will intervene, but Russia will still have to react somehow.

[VyacheSeymour]

I also don’t think they will intervene, but Russia will still have to react somehow

But, you see, do not shove the war?

[genisis]

Russia will 100% fulfill its obligations under the Collective Security Treaty (CST).
In the case of Armenia asking for help under Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty, Russia will unconditionally support the party to the Treaty.
No one will fight for Armenia, but they will not allow attacking it.
And Aliyev knows very well that Azerbaijan will be forced into peace as quickly as Georgia at one time.

[VyacheSeymour]

Russia will 100% fulfill its obligations under the Collective Security Treaty (CST).
In the case of Armenia asking for help under Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty, Russia will unconditionally support the party to the Treaty.

So far, the meeting of the CSTO Security Council, which was supposed to be held on July 13 at the request of Armenia, has been canceled ?!

[genisis]

An emergency meeting was initiated by Stanislav Zas. What demand of Armenia are you writing about? The meeting did not take place, the CSTO made a comment dated 14/07, in which it expressed concern about the situation.

[VyacheSeymour]

An emergency meeting was initiated by Stanislav Zas.

The very same Zas - against which Armenia did demarches?

[genisis]

Armenia had nothing against Zasy. There were objections to the early termination of the powers of the Secretary General, whose duties were performed by Khachaturov.
But I don’t really understand what is your question?
Stanislav Vasilievich is not free to show his emotions at this post. Even if he was humanly upset by the protracted procedure of his appointment.

[VyacheSeymour]

Armenia had nothing against Zasy. There were objections to the early termination of powers of the Secretary General, whose duties were
Khachaturov.

Listen, what are you talking about? ...- Armenia, having accused Khachaturov, initiated the procedure for the urgent replacement of the CSTO Secretary General! - It demanded the removal from office! He brought charges against the current official of the INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION, - lowered her authority. Moreover, she imagined that she could appoint a new one in return at will! After I came to terms with the impossibility of this, I began to speak out both against the appointment of the Secretary from Belarus, and later, against the candidacy of Zasy himself!

But I don’t really understand what is your question?

And this is not important anymore, - I realized that I would definitely get from you at 100500 solely correct (in your objectionable interpretation) answer!

[genisis]

And that’s not important anymore, - I understood

It's nice to deal with a narrow-minded, but understanding small. It’s a pity that you were poorly educated as a child, well, that would be too much.

[VyacheSeymour]

It's nice to deal with a narrow-minded, but understanding small. It’s a pity that you were poorly educated as a child, well, that would be too much.

Most importantly, I see that your upbringing is rushing, well, straight from all the cracks !!! - FAR You are ours ...
A worthy son of his parents? “I'm sure not!” I don’t even know at the backyard of which imperial suburbs you mastered the educational program?

[VyacheSeymour]

Stanislav Vasilievich is not free to show his emotions at this post. Even if he was humanly upset by the protracted procedure of his appointment.

In the sense ? - Some past grievances extrapolated to today?

[icant007]

In the case of Armenia asking for help under Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty, Russia will unconditionally support the party to the Treaty.

Well, yes, already twice.
You muddied this gimp in 1987, and Russia should take the rap.
Sit down at the negotiating table with Azerbaijan and resolve the issue.
What's stopping you? Immeasurable Armenian national pride?
You only know how to arrange provocations at the border.

But you are the first in line in the migration services of Russia.

[mace]

Andrey Ogly, have you decided to try a new style of comments on the forum? Do you realize that no one in their right mind can fit in for you?

[icant007]

Am I writing a lie?

In general, I am Nikolaevich. I was born in Azerbaijan and lived there for 10 years. And the pain of the Azerbaijani people is also my pain.

[icant007]

Actually, I'm Nikolaevich)
Born and lived for 10 years in Azerbaijan.
Therefore, the pain of the Azerbaijani people is also my pain.

[Dimon71]

The Armenian air defense yesterday shot down Hermes 900 Jewish production (there is a video on the network), but the most interesting is that Azeri arranged their artillery calculations around the villages (there are satellite images posted on the network)

[Zeev zeev]

Armenian media shot down a Hermes 900 yesterday. Moreover, the photo was posted of the wreckage of almost "Harop", which in 2016 blew up a bus with Armenian militias in Karabakh.

[Stavros]

And here is a photo of "Harop" if there is a video of how the "Hermes" was shot down
You’re like a Jew, but you’re acting like a karakoyun)

[Lekxnumx]

We do not scream 25 minutes ago another video from the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan

[Cyril G ...]

The clip is about nothing. Destruction of a toilet is shown. Informativeness is zero. Spread it if there is something essentially. And it’s funny to her God.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

The clip is about nothing. Destruction of a toilet is shown. Informativeness is zero. Spread it if there is something essentially. And it’s funny to her God.

Yes, of course, we spend thousands of rockets on toilets)) Actually, the barracks and ammunition depots on both sides are so equipped. There is no one building army penthouses, I will tell you a secret. Soldiers on the front lines are sleeping in wagons sometimes in dugouts and firing points are trenches

[Cyril G ...]

What I see is what I sing. You can say anything. So I completely admit that you are now scattering your Spikes toilets. Then claim the overpower.
This is only for internal propaganda can do ...

[Lekxnumx]

Well, if you think so and you want to think so, your right, dear sir. I ask you for the official YouTube channel of the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan .Azərbaycan Respublikası Müdafiə Nazirliyi there are a lot of interesting things

[Cyril G ...]

Since when are we with you?
Remember, just in case, I do not "want to think so", I see what I said.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Since when are we with you?

On the rights of anonymity of this resource, the little man got confused. Forgive generously, in this forum, when communicating with inappropriate neighbors from the Armenian mountains, you often have to neglect the rules of ethics.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Another moment on the part of cartoons, in my opinion, part of the blows in general fell on false targets.

Here the losses of Armenians can be from 10 to hundreds. Goals are chosen from priority, in this case, the goal of the Azerbaijani army is to destroy as much manpower as possible. I don’t agree with the goals, but there’s no position, there is a simple hunt for the Armenian military. Is it justified? I think not, but probably the warehouses of the Defense Ministry are full of precision weapons since they work like that, since we do not regret the money for the army. But I would have plowed everything into squares with simple blanks of this good for sure for decades of war. who need to stand on ceremony. Plow everything and calm down. As we see in one video, they destroy the artillery headquarters of the division but not guns. They can get the receiver either with Grad, other priorities. And the Armenians recognize the loss or not, does not change the essence.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Lek3338

UAVs are monitored in real time.

You probably don’t understand something, right? These UAVs control something there until the air defense systems appear on the stage. On it all ends. We look Idlib. The Syrians raked, well, they forgot what it is to fight having problems in Heaven, pulled up the Pantsyri and Buki and fastened it for a couple of days reliably a couple of Anok and a couple of Bayraktar. On this, everything turned into stasis.
Coming to Libya. There were a lot of allegations about the killed armor. In fact, reliably one Pantsyr is out of order, the second is captured. There is the possibility of video suggesting that probably 2 or 3 more are damaged. But not the fact. This is me about adequate cartoons, where you can already talk about something
But do not forget at the same time the power of Saraj reliably lost 18 bayraktarov.
Because the rollers are such ..... Nothing absolutely proves. Especially with your hunting the situation may well go on growing and uncontrolled.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

You probably don’t understand something, right? These UAVs control something there until air defense systems appear on the stage

I understand this very well! The Syrians so raked back then that Putin talked about numerous losses. Of course, pulling up the Armenian air defense forces will be able to level the advantage in the sky. UAV consumables UAV loss is a loss of money is not critical. Here the Armenians in words have already shot down 10 of our UAVs, there are no debris of course. I don’t know the operational situation, maybe they deployed electronic warfare and the Armenian air defense systems are useless, or maybe not. Maybe the Armenians will tighten the air defense system and we’ll have an UAV, we’ll wait and see
But in fact at the moment, UAVs control the whole sky, if we analyze our cards, they hit the rear units, reserves. This is for the moment, which we will see later, not worth guessing.

Quote: Cyril G ...

But do not forget at the same time, Saraj’s forces reliably lost 18 Bayraktar.

I admit, but I’d like to see the link! You know, I don’t like these calculations of the dead. All the same, it’s about fate, it’s not just numbers. I think it’s a victory when the territory is taken under control as it was in April. And not just how many were killed, just the soldiers lost the commander whom they loved and respected. Now what it’s not a war, it’s an act of retaliation.
The goal is set and if it is achieved this is a victory. I always say to my compatriots that there will be huge losses in a full-fledged war. This will not stop, the biggest dove of the world is Aliyev, a joke in jokes but the Armenians need to canonize the Aliyevs. Lazyma is waiting for a shot

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Lek3338

but I’d like to see the link!

Please https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=5A

For Pantsyryv you want to see, this is you Lost Armor https://lostarmour.info sections Libya and Syria. According to those materials, I can challenge my opinion on the defeat of the Armor.
There you can count the losses in Idlib. Which are somehow not impressive.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Please https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=5A

Thank you, I love those interlocutors who reinforce what has been said by sources. Later I will read for personal outlook

[Cyril G ...]

Keep in mind by reference all known aircraft losses over Libya.
There you can see the losses from all causes of aircraft in the world. You can sample by country. In general, we can talk about high reliability. Although, unfortunately, there are errors. As was the case with the Khmeimim throw-in, a couple of years ago.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Keep in mind by reference all known aircraft losses over Libya.

Yes, with one peep I looked.

The Minister of Defense and the Chief of the General Staff, on their shoulders, are escorting the fallen officers into the last journey! When the Armenians here gloat over the death of the general. They do not understand otherwise could not be! At the slightest skirmish, the generals were at the forefront. The dead major, for his difference, received an apartment in April, handed it over to the family of the deceased private and lived in a rented apartment.
When the rallies and the police can’t cope in this country, the soldiers withdraw in chains. They know the people will not touch the soldiers and disperse. Alas, we were not lucky with the politicians. We have already buried the soldiers for these years, the people understand very well only because they are at the front .

[Oquzyurd]

Allah rehmet elesin ((Our sacrifices for the Motherland and for the homeland make our people stronger and more resolute. A couple of centuries of tsarist rule and a common house called the USSR made us a "mass of communism", depending on the decisions of the supreme center. Now, after a lot time We are rebuilding the Country, from the economy to the development of military affairs, knowing that no one will do this for us, knowing that We are the masters of our Motherland and our destiny.

[mace]

The mass of communism? Yes, thanks to Russia, you generally exist as a state. Without us, the Persians with the Turks would have dismantled you for parts. Industry, culture, education, oil industry, energy complex, medicine - they did and left everything for you. How did you thank them? They trampled Russians in the 90s, and now write such things on the Russian forum! Naturally, the Russians will never support you in this conflict. And now you are rolling into the backyards of third world countries. It remains only to choose the option of how to live on, either in Venezuela or in Libya. War will help you and speed up the process.

[icant007]

Quote: bulava

Russians were trampled underfoot in the 90s, and now write such things on the Russian forum! Naturally, the Russians will never support you in this conflict. And now you are rolling into the margins of third world countries.

Aren't you confusing anything?

I already wrote above that Azerbaijan is one of the largest Russian diasporas in the CIS.
But in Armenia there are no Russians at all.

And you think that we Russians should support Armenia.
For what? Just because Russians and Armenians are Christians?

[mace]

0,6% of Russians remained in Azerbaijan. In 1939 it was 18%. The Russians went to build industry, develop science, culture, medicine, education. Well, how did the Azerbaijanis thank us? How much effort our country has invested in the oil industry. And whose is it now? ARDNŞ, who feeds from it and is there at least one Russian in the manual?
In the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic in 1939 there were 4% of Russians and during the Soviet era the share did not grow as rapidly as in the AzSSR. Why? Because the Armenians themselves coped with the development of the economy. Naturally, now there are actually fewer Russians in Armenia, but there have always been few of them here, only most of the signs are duplicated in Russian, everyone knows Russian and Russians are treated as the most welcome guests. Moreover, our entire big business has interests in Armenia, there are investments and joint projects. This absolutely cannot be said about Azerbaijan.

[icant007]

Quote: bulava

Moreover, our entire big business has interests in Armenia, there are investments and joint projects.

That's right, you're right. On the other hand, the presence of Russian big business allows Armenia, hiding behind Russia, to pursue an uncompromising foreign policy towards Azerbaijan.
Armenia does not want to solve the Karabakh issue, thus provoking a big war.

[mace]

First, why should Armenia cede its ancestral lands inhabited by Armenians? Secondly, even if, hypothetically, Azerbaijan returns Karabakh, how will events develop? Will everyone hug and dance lezginka? Of course not. Most likely there will be pogroms, refugees, blood. So, it is much more correct to leave everything as it is now. Recognize Karabakh. Azerbaijan, so, has received enough Armenian lands, not to mention Turkey, which is already quite clearly in charge of all this.

[icant007]

Why then did Armenia yield to Nakhichevan and is not fighting for it?
The question of the originality of lands cannot be the only indisputable factor.
And what is primordiality? In relation to what historical era?

I could understand the Armenians of Karabakh if ​​they were oppressed there during the Soviet era. But they also had their own autonomy.
Why was it necessary to destroy the established order.
After all, Armenia has made itself worse.
Armenia was really set up in this conflict.
External forces fanned this conflict in order to undermine the USSR.
And when the conflict became unnecessary, Armenia was abandoned.
And now they are trying to repeat the same thing, but at a new turn in history and with different geopolitical goals.

[mace]

Your question already has an answer. If Karabakh remained with Azerbaijan, the Armenians would be squeezed out of there, just as it was in Nakhichevan. Only there the process lasted for decades and was not radical (it was simply squeezed out economically), but here everything would have gone in the spirit of the pogroms in Baku and Sumgait. It is now easy to say "would have stayed", but at that time the situation was extremely tense, the USSR was collapsing, weapons were full, all sorts of Basayevs, Pakistani mercenaries, Turkish volunteers, Cossacks - everything got mixed up. Then the only correct decision was to take up arms and defend their native land. And by the way, please note that Karabakh is a separate state, not a part of Armenia. They don't want to be part of anyone.

[Stavros]

Salam alaikum ay kardash, what was going on there at night, like water cannons were launched, cops were dispersed with batons. You probably were there too, did I ask for the front?

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Stavros

Salam alaikum ay kardash, what was going on there at night, like water cannons were launched, cops were dispersed with batons. You probably were there too, did I ask for the front?

I wasn’t at home, people asked me to the front, they demanded mobilization, although I don’t understand why they demand it in the square. I think that in a full-blown war, I’ll be on the first lists during mobilization. But alas, Ilyukha is not before the war, he’s the greatest savior of the Armenians, you need to canonize the Armenians of these Aliyevs. But as Tikde Yohdu thought

[genisis]

)))))
Kanesh asked what it was about.
Yesterday, as a whole flock, they clapped their hands and asked the son of Heydar Baba to send them all to the front.
But that wise experience, immediately perceived that the front, not the front, but the gathering must be stopped. Not even an hour, maybe they can move in the wrong direction, it will become from them))

[Stavros]

You don’t envy Heydarych right now, the tanks were boiling yesterday, the crowd gathered for war. Now Ilham probably regrets that he has been ruffling his tongue all these years.
By the way, these videos that throw away the Koyun mo, acquaintances of Armenians said that basically they are probably from 2016 or from exercises, since the area is not the same in this direction.

[genisis]

So this is a well-tried technique.
They have there Vagif Emishbashka Dargyakhly already launched a whole multimedia studio. So the videos about the “victorious march of the great and invincible” are stamped, though the army of Azerbaijani Askars never knew victories.
By the way, the previous speaker of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry was even worse. Although someone will say that this is impossible.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Stavros

they are probably from 2016 or from exercises, since the area is not the same in this direction.

They probably since 2016)) the terrain is not the same)) Download the planets eart and check
You all God's dew subscribe to the channel of this civilian. He sitting at home knows all the coordinates of your posts. 21 century in the yard)))

[Zeev zeev]

Can you link to the video?

[the finish]

There is a video of not only the wreckage, but also the moment of defeat in the sky.

[VyacheSeymour]

There is a video of not only the wreckage, but also the moment of defeat in the sky.

Well, then someone satisfy our curiosity! -Locate a video or a link then in the end! -But then, Lek ...- there’s how it comes off!

[the finish]

already laid out Lek

[VyacheSeymour]

A very interesting message - apparently I missed something ...- discard the links if it true ...- or not ?!

[Lekxnumx]

Here is a video from the Armenians, gluing two videos on the first one shows something. On the second they shot down something.

[the finish]

If something is not in your favor, then question (something), and your videos are "pure honey"!

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: finish

If something is not in your favor, then question (something), and your videos are "pure honey"!

I do not doubt it is very possible

[alone]

Quote: finish

If something is not in your favor, then question (something), and your videos are "pure honey"!

Hermes has a wingspan of 15 meters. Well, where are these debris? In the first part of the video, an airliner flies. .And in the second part, self-detonating anti-aircraft missiles. Anti-aircraft missiles self-explode if they do not hit the target. By the way, Armenian sources have already recognized the video as fake

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: lonely

Quote: finish

If something is not in your favor, then question (something), and your videos are "pure honey"!

Hermes has a wingspan of 15 meters. Well, where are these debris? In the first part of the video, an airliner flies. .And in the second part, self-detonating anti-aircraft missiles. Anti-aircraft missiles self-explode if they do not hit the target. By the way, Armenian sources have already recognized the video as fake

Can you throw a link? And then these Armenians are all God's dew, they had another fake with a burning loaf. Well, what can you do when they can’t on the battlefield, you have to fight on the Internet

[Farid Alekperov]

"The Armenian armed forces shot down about ten unmanned aerial vehicles of Azerbaijan, said the head of the information center created in connection with the situation on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border, Artsrun Hovhannisyan." Already 10 pieces! Everything you need to know about the reliability of the information provided by the Armenian Ministry of Defense) https://www.interfax.ru/world/717382

[the finish]

Debris is also attached to it on other videos.

[the finish]

https://www.facebook.com/marukyan.edmon/videos/3008022139296378/UzpfSTEwMDAwMTIxMjcyMjA3NDozMzI2Mzk3Mzc3NDEwNjU0/

I saw this link.

[VyacheSeymour]

I saw this link.

Really, something is possible! - But where does the civilian side here at the very beginning of the video ?????

[Cyril G ...]

What about the wreckage?

[north 2]

when Russia finally ceases to search for friendly nations. Now Ukrainians, then Belarusians, then Azerbaijanis, now, now, Armenians. And about the kindred peoples to the Russian one has to stop putting emphasis once. Because all these are bacilli of the notorious internationalism, which immediately destroys the body of the Empire, as soon as these bacilli feel that the Empire is looking for relatives at home, instead of equally flogging with a whip and equally treating their subjects with gingerbread, who deserved what. So these bacilli began to develop under Khrushchev, but Stalin all who deserved what, the same or flogged with a whip or treated to a carrot. Therefore, the Empire was strong. A spineless
Gorbachev and drunk Yeltsin naively thought that if the subjects of the Empire were sorted into
separate friendly peoples, then these peoples will be as loyal to the Russian people and Russia as they were when Stalin deserved to whip everyone and treat him with a carrot.
Not a damn thing, these so-called friendly peoples and even the so-called kindred peoples in a jiffy
fell into the arms of the enemies of Russia, or how cunning Armenians want Russia to protect them, and Russia itself will also set conditions. So these territories with their peoples until the Empire is restored within the borders of the USSR in 1945, should be considered by Russia as landfills for Russia's defense at distant approaches. And if these territories are fighting among themselves, then Russia has nothing to meddle in. We need to watch if the Russian base in Armenia is not affected. For this, this base is there so that the Turks do not crawl close to Russia. And not for the fact that fighting Armenians with Azerbaijanis to pull away.

[mace]

Think narrowly. Without external strength and support, no one will fight among themselves. In this conflict, it is already clear that Turkey, NATO and "the entire progressive world" are on the side of some. Do you think they all need Karabakh? Of course not. They need Russia.

[Lekxnumx]

IN it was a barracks or a stronghold of the company.

Destruction of equipment

Destruction of barracks and reserves in the rear

Destruction of the headquarters of the artillery division that fired. Yesterday, Fresh videos sent to Stavros.

[genisis]

Stay))))
You’ll destroy all the Armenian Armed Forces with rollers so soon)))

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: genisis

Stay))))
You’ll destroy all the Armenian Armed Forces with rollers so soon)))

What claims to me? ))) All claims of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense are all their work)) I see you funny, laugh laugh laugh prolongs life especially when away from these ridiculous events.

[genisis]

Yes, what could be your claim?
Like Vagif Yamishbashke.
When did you manage to get from the trenches to the trenches?

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: genisis

Yes, what could be your claim?
Like Vagif Yamishbashke.
When did you manage to get from the trenches to the trenches?

Rolled up? Baku Baku comrade was born and raised, so my ancestors from KItsar and AhtsIega

[Stavros]

Do you think he really lezgin, or mows under it? It’s just to get the fuck so that Lezgin licks the Tsiapi boot so, it’s necessary to go down like that.

[genisis]

Unfortunately for Lezghins, I think that he does not mow.
But fortunately, I know many other worthy sons of my people.
What makes him grovel in front of the evil spirits that seized his land, I can’t imagine.
Apparently he is akin to Safar Abiyev.
True, he lamentably ended everything he touched.

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Stavros

Do you think he really lezgin, or mows under it? It’s just to get the fuck so that Lezgin licks the Tsiapi boot so, it’s necessary to go down like that.

Quote: genisis

Unfortunately for Lezghins, I think that he does not mow.
But fortunately, I know many other worthy sons of my people.
What makes him grovel in front of the evil spirits that seized his land, I can’t imagine.
Apparently he is akin to Safar Abiyev.
True, he lamentably ended everything he touched.

I’m flattered that two Armenians are discussing my person)) From the day the confrontation began, I was the only one on the whole resource who posted video clips, transmitted information from the front line, albeit verbally. And these two brothers of the twin acrobat, as they discussed my person, are still discussing))) Gentlemen, we here at a military forum, a platform in which they discuss military operations from anywhere in the world, share information. And you two frames want to hook me, well, a drum in your hands and with a song ahead. What does the life-giving Internet do to people, how much bravado, how much courage to insult a stranger. Be sure to drink for your health not today, this forum needs you to be true persons of Armenian nationality))) Burn on

[Farid Alekperov]

In general, the tone of their statements pleases me. These "clever men" still think that Azerbaijanis do not know how to fight) Therefore, when funerals come to Armenian houses, some Armenians scream that these are not Azerbaijanis, but Turks sit in trenches and shoot at miatsumny ones)

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Farid Alekperov

In general, the tone of their statements pleases me. These "clever men" still think that Azerbaijanis do not know how to fight) Therefore, when funerals come to Armenian houses, some Armenians scream that these are not Azerbaijanis, but Turks sit in trenches and shoot at miatsumny ones)

Their little brain refuses to believe their eyes))) They think war is something of a genetic blood type, they have it, az-tsevs don’t have it))) They don’t believe that military training can be taught to anyone with due dexterity. I also like their psychology of thinking, and which colleagues from the Russian Federation? to match the Armenians. They do not distinguish fanaticism from professionalism, they think fanaticism can be defeated. I have always said and will say, I will not exchange the department of cold-blooded children who are eager to learn military affairs. For a company of fanatical patriots, religious people who have only the lips to go forward. Martial art comprehended by brains, theory, practice and teachings and not emotions by hatred or arrogance.

[mace]

In Baku, these videos are probably shown in cinemas before the screening of Hollywood action films and Turkish melodramas.

[Lekxnumx]

The Ministry of Defense deleted two of today's videos and changed the headlines, so I’ll add again.

[Kito]

Well, hot Caucasian guys from Armenia and Azerbaijan, who traded in the markets of the Southern Federal District, let them remember how at the beginning of 1992 they were hiding in huts, and how other Caucasians stood with a sign on their necks: "I am Georgian" ... And so nothing new, both of these states are trying to include a proud and independent horseman / abrek.

[Victorio]

Quote: Kito

Well, hot Caucasian guys from Armenia and Azerbaijan, who traded in the markets of the Southern Federal District, let them remember how at the beginning of 1992 they hid in huts, and how other Caucasians stood with a sign on their necks: "I am Georgian" ... And so nothing new, both of these states are trying to include a proud and independent jigit / abrek.

===
yes, this is sad. from reconciliation and joint activity would be better for the whole region. we must pay tribute to both countries, they did not renounce the Soviet past, unlike our close relatives, Ukrainians.

[sanya]

But I think: Why did the Armenians become so greyhounds? They are the weakest side
Apparently secured support ... And this is not Russia ... Most likely the situation is tied to Iran

[Cyril G ...]

Is Iran here? Here obviously long long donkey ears stick out. On the eve of the election, the Democrats decided to rock the situation here.

[sanya]

Reconnaissance and sabotage operation against Iran underway from Iran
They even talk about air strikes
Iranian Azerbaijanis are also used for various purposes.
Iran and Armenia have common enemies in the region and some interests coincide ....
Russia is unlikely to be behind the actions of the Armenians at this stage because Russia does not benefit from a major conflict in principle
US wants to maintain good relations with all parties to the conflict
Turkey clearly about Azerbaijan
So Armenians are protecting and guiding Iran

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: sanya

Russia is unlikely to be behind the actions of the Armenians at this stage because Russia does not benefit from a major conflict in principle

In this I agree with you from and to. He wrote about the same earlier.

[Victorio]

to press the buttons and turn the "joystick" the Turks taught

[Witness]

https://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2020/07/14/1853686.html
The Armenian authorities also supported the degree of anti-Russian sentiment. Either Russian television channels will disappear from local broadcasters, then on the public television they suddenly close the last program in Russian ...

[Kito]

On the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan, a military clash occurred. At the same time, the defense ministries of both countries blame each other and tell different versions of what happened. According to Baku, the Armenian military fired on the positions of the Azerbaijani armed forces. In Yerevan, they are sure that the enemy attacked, before that, trying to violate the border
In short, it was like this, one of the fighters was drunk / stoned (underline necessary), Armenian / Azerbaijani (underline) .... and away we go

[Stavros]

Quote: AzeriDefence

If he suddenly steps aside to be destroyed like your shells in Syria and in Libya. We are able to do this.

Okay, tighten the bit, the killer of the shell). Erdogan has already promised to send you a couple of thousand people from Syria, he knows perfectly well that you are not capable of anything).

[Farid Alekperov]

Yeah, a familiar Armenian song. I remember in April 16th Margosha Simonyan together with Gabrielyanov discussed the possibility of spreading disinformation with the alleged participation of Wahhabis and Ishidovites on the side of Azerbaijan and sat down with it in a puddle. The problem is that all these fighters are radical Sunnis and most Shiite Azerbaijanis are heretics for them.

[Cyril G ...]

So for the Turks, Azerbaijanis are heretics ..... Is not it.?:

[Farid Alekperov]

Turks, for the most part, are secular; in matters of religion they do not bother too much. Also Azerbaijanis. For example, in Turkish mosques, any Shiite can go in and pray in their own way. But in the Arab Wahhabi mosques, Shiites will be kicked out at best, if not beaten. (Sunites and Shiites pray differently)

[mace]

Why are you so attacking the Armenians? They lived there long before you came there, even long before you appeared in general as a nation. Yes, and your "state" appeared only thanks to the USSR, otherwise they would have been nationalities in various provinces of Iran, Turkey and Armenia

[Oquzyurd]

Now I read your comment. Everything is clear with you)))

[Farid Alekperov]

these so-called "nationalists" organized Safavid Iran, acted as an organizing force. It's funny to hear about Armenia. Since the time of Byzantium, they did not have their own state and were the trade and artisan estate of Byzantium, Turkey, Iran and the Azerbaijani khanates.

[mace]

The Safavid state appeared in 1501 AD naturally, Great Armenia - in 190 BC. uh
And it was precisely the Armenian state, and not the semi-Persian-semi-Kypchak.

On the map (American historian), NKR and other territories are clearly visible.
And about "did not have their own state." Any nation, the older it is, the more stages it went through in its development, from becoming and greatness to decline and renaissance. Read Gumilyov at your leisure.

[Farid Alekperov]

I read Gumilev. This "Revealing Armenia" existed for several decades and became a vassal of Rome under Tigranes himself. The Safavids held their territories for centuries longer, not to mention the Ottomans. All these territories are on the maps that the Armenian conquered lands of neighboring peoples are so proud of, which these Armenians very quickly lost. In addition, the language (grabar), traditions and beliefs of that Armenia have the same indirect relation to the present-day Hayam-Armenians, as the Egyptian pyramids to the Arabs of Egypt.

[mace]

Well, even so. And where is Azerbaijan on the map? Just do not write to me about the Safavid state. You have the same relation to it as the Egyptian pyramids to the Arabs of Egypt.

[Farid Alekperov]

Shah Ismail Khatai - Do You Know That? Founder of the Safavid state and part-time Azerbaijani poet. Did you know the Shah, in his spare time from state affairs, wrote gazelles about love in the Azerbaijani language. I would put these verses here, but you won’t understand a single line, unlike Azerbaijanis)

[Oquzyurd]

Yesterday I was tearing my throat, my hair was tearing out from under my armpit and not only, proving that I was Russian Ivan)))) Ashot Ashotovich, well, did you decide to completely insert your nose into the show?)))

[mace]

It is sad that you were so marinated by propaganda during the years of "independence". Such cliches, such cranberries, and there is no answer to the main question. What will you personally get from this war? Although ... you are sitting in Russia, probably already with a Russian passport and, in fact, you do not care about the problems of your native country.

[Stavros]

Quote: genisis

So this is a well-tried technique.
They have there Vagif Emishbashka Dargyakhly already launched a whole multimedia studio. So the videos about the "victorious procession of the great and invincible" are stamped

"Karakoyun Pictures" is called, one destroyed all the Armor, and their brothers, lesser half-Turks from the Armenian positions did not leave anything)

[Stavros]

Quote: AzeriDefence

Here write nonsense. The General and Colonel were in position and they died not from the drone but from the explosion from a mortar.

Everyone lies, everyone writes nonsense, only you are the most honest and decent here)

[Stavros]

Quote: Lek3338

I’m sure I’ll drink for your health today, this forum needs true people of Armenian nationality

So you still thump, but what about faith?
Yes, you probably indulge in pork, probably love salsa with vodka? Oh, you’re such a shaitan, turned from the right path, the Armenians will kill you to the guria, you won’t get you will fry in hell in a pan)

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Stavros

So you still thump, but what about faith?
Yes, you probably indulge in pork, probably love salsa with vodka? Oh, you’re such a shaitan, turned from the right path, the Armenians will kill you to the guria, you won’t get you will fry in hell in a pan)

I am an atheist. I love pork more tasty than lamb and beef. Salt with vodka and next to the village potatoes with pickled Baku tomatoes, cucumbers and our Caspian herring I make myself. An appetizer of the gods, if there is a god in heaven for sure bites with this)) Again you can’t look at believers like you without a liter of vodka)) Again offtopic oh you're a prankster)) But this time he successfully hit!

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Stavros

Quote: Lek3338

I’m sure I’ll drink for your health today, this forum needs true people of Armenian nationality

So you still thump, but what about faith?
Yes, you probably indulge in pork, probably love salsa with vodka? Oh, you’re such a shaitan, turned from the right path, the Armenians will kill you to the guria, you won’t get you will fry in hell in a pan)

She changed her mind all the same today I’ll drink for your health)) You’re that still shot, I like you to have such perseverance with your poor mind, this is nothing more than talent)))

[Stavros]

Quote: genisis

You and the "truth" are incompatible. Well, it starts to root for you from the truth, as if demons are coming out of you.

Forget it on them, you think they don’t know that they raped them this time in the tail and mane, they just write different crap out of impotence and anger. Let them rage. They are nobody without the Turks. Pakistani Turks are calling for help, and this is against the 3 millionth country. Now they looked and they jumped out in Moscow, screaming die for Karabakh, but no one is going to go home to die there in battle, these are the same heroes here on the site.

[Stavros]

Quote: Lek3338

She changed her mind all the same today I’ll drink for your health)) You’re that still shot, I like you to have such perseverance with your meager mind, this is nothing but

But you’re so important, they all send you something from the front, they ask you not to show the cards ahead of time, I have a feeling that you know more than your field marshal Ilham, such an important peacock. I will also miss a glass for your health, for the know-it-all of Azerbaijan)

[GMT-ZHEL]

Better to drink for health than to shoot at each other. So let’s drink for the friendship of peoples.

[shark]

What I learned from the read comments:
1. In no case should Russia get into this conflict on either side.
2. In no case should Russia get into this conflict on either side.
3. In no case should Russia get into this conflict on either side.
4. In no case should Russia get into this conflict on either side.
etc. They want to play war games - let them play. Pashinyan here proudly showed Putin a goat. Well, let them continue to show. Azerbaijan in friends with the USA walks, well, let it walk. Ryazan is far away. We are sitting at home. We have no friends there or there.

[mace]

You made a strange conclusion. It turns out that Russia should get into Syria, but not into the Caucasus? It is high time to divide the Caucasus under new geopolitical conditions. And they are such that the sultan of the "great Ottoman empire" can at any moment finally go kukukh and begin to solve his internal problems at the expense of "victorious wars" with the Kurds, Armenians, and maybe even the Greek Cypriots. And I will not be surprised that the mustache of the tomato sultan is behind all this now.

[Gloomy skeptic]

There are three roads at the crossroads - do not eat more shawarma,
A shaitan rocket to fly in, the entire brazier has broken.
Our caravanserai burned down, where to lay my head?
Where to moor a caravan, where you can drink a donkey?

[Gloomy skeptic]

Quote: Lek3338

I love pork tastier and lamb and beef. Salt with vodka and next to the village potatoes with pickled Baku tomatoes, cucumbers and herring Caspian I do

I support such a menu FULLY !!! Only I have my own tomatoes and herring Pacific.

[Scorpio05]

Well, of course, the point of view of an Armenian) In general, it would probably be even better for you if Mother Russia would again fit in for Armenian interests to the last soldier)) You immediately prepare a list of Armenian interests for which Russia would fight for Armenians) Look, what else is bad for neighbors and you can "requisition" with someone else's help) And then again you will burn Russian flags, according to the old Armenian tradition.

[mace]

We'll watch you. So far there is only noise from you. If necessary, we will help the fraternal people. Not in the first!

[Scorpio05]

Your brotherly people. Already envy takes for such brothers. Of course you will help, I have no doubt) So help with this, hold the flag or something, pour kerosene, stretch the cloth to make it more convenient. I wonder how many people like some "observing" lovers need to spit in the face so that they understand something. Neither I think you are personally worthy of just such brothers but not the great Russian people. Or are you just another Armenian troll with a Russian surname?) I think you are Armenian. Practically sure.

So, the sweet Armenian annual tradition of desecration and burning of the Russian flag over the years:

2018 Armenians burned the Russian flag in Yerevan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt7EI46vSk

2017, the Armenians trampled and burned the Russian flag of the Russian Federation in Yerevan. Russia out of Armenia ...

1,190 views • Jan 14, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-P4PXb-rL0

2016. Armenians burn the Russian flag and commentary by Zhirinovsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NhYGP37-w

2015, Armenians attacked the Russian Embassy. The flag of Russia and Putin was insulted in Armenia! - F. A .D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkKcn4yHh_Y

[mace]

They have already written a hundred times that this is all, either paid for actions aimed at embroiling Russia and Armenia (unsuccessful, but the organizers persistently repeat them, like donkeys), or simply inadequate. This does not in any way affect our relations, unlike the pogroms in Baku and the mass exodus of Russians from Azerbaijan. And anti-Russian rhetoric is going on at your pro-Aliyev rallies. We definitely don't need such friends.

[Scorpio05]

The phenomenon of masochism is not well understood. At least the process of self-deception and the creation of an illusory external world is interesting (where the named brothers do not burn and spit on your flags and do not offend the country and its hands. And you also have to wet their foes for this, and you do it voluntarily, in a blissful emotion)). Some kind of Dostoevschina) A distorted matrix of world perception, where friends (a saying comes to mind about such friends lying in wooden containers in a bureau of funeral services in specific shoes of the corresponding color) and enemies are just a figment of your imagination.
Of course, all of the above is irrelevant if you are Mr. Bulava, a malicious Armenian troll))
I would like to heartily congratulate you on such a fraternal people. Get jealous ... damn Where do you take these "brothers" in life?

So, the sweet Armenian annual tradition of desecration and burning of the Russian flag over the years:

2018 Armenians burned the Russian flag in Yerevan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt7EI46vSk

2017, the Armenians trampled and burned the Russian flag of the Russian Federation in Yerevan. Russia out of Armenia ...

1,190 views • Jan 14, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-P4PXb-rL0

2016. Armenians burn the Russian flag and commentary by Zhirinovsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NhYGP37-w

2015, Armenians attacked the Russian Embassy. The flag of Russia and Putin was insulted in Armenia! - F. A .D.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkKcn4yHh_Y

[mace]

If muddy characters are burning flags in Yerevan, then your anti-Russian sentiments have been whipped up by the authorities for many years:

Baku submits anti-Armenian and anti-Russian document to the US Congress
July 22 2020

Anti-Russian and anti-Iranian slogans are heard at the rally in Baku. Baku,
24.01.2019

Anti-Russian speeches in the parliament of Azerbaijan
November 29, 2016

Baku openly accuses Russia of trying to destabilize the situation in Azerbaijan.
20 November 2012 g

[Scorpio05]

Some weak, unsuccessful attempt at a typical Armenian denunciation))
Can you explain to me how Baku (!) Can submit an anti-Armenian and anti-Russian document to the US Congress?)) How physically this can happen?) Well, you give) You can add the following information to your libel. My neighbor got poisoned with vodka, but does not remember from a local or Russian, well, he still swears)) Everyone got it)

[mace]

So read the news live. Do you want - even on Ukrainian sites. Anyway, Azerbaijanis show their true colors. Again we slipped into pogroms. Now in Moscow. It's time to rein in them well. Well, the local trolls too.

[Scorpio05]

Well, well, this video below was probably an attempt at reconciliation on the part of the Armenians?) Armenian "peacekeepers" with a crowd of 15 people ("one-on-one" battle is called in Armenian) attacked one Azerbaijani and, in addition, destroyed his restaurant. Is your vision all right? Or is it an attempt to transfer an unsuccessful troll from a sore head to a healthy one? Well, keep it simple. Take care of yourself)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX80DQ2WkiI

INCIDENTS
Armenian attack on Azerbaijani restaurant in Moscow caught on video
Author: Inga Lanskaya
"On the night of July 24 in Moscow, natives of Armenia destroyed a restaurant of Azerbaijani cuisine. The incident took place in the" 1001 Nights "establishment on Bratislavskaya Street. As the chairman of the Azerbaijani community in Moscow, Shamil Tagiyev, said in an interview with the Public News Service, a series of provocations is taking place.
“There were conflicts all over Moscow. At night the Armenians broke into the restaurant. The seller was beaten with watermelons this morning. The Armenians gathered in the Kommunarka region yesterday night. We drove around the area and fired into the air. As if they are chasing rams in the mountains, ”Tagiyev commented on what was happening.
The representative of the Azerbaijani community once again appealed to his compatriots with a request to remain calm.
Earlier Tagiyev said that the night clashes were caused by a video of a beaten Azerbaijani in Europe. The incident was passed off as taking place in Moscow. "

Source: Public service news agency.
https://www.osnmedia.ru/proisshestviya/napadenie-armyan-na-azerbajdzhanskij-restoran-v-moskve-popalo-na-video/

[mace]

The authenticity of this video is questionable. But the footage, where crowds of Azerbaijanis rush to cars with Armenian numbers, does not cause it, since familiar people are engaged in this business from where it is customary to trust everyone. They crippled ordinary people. And not in an equal fight, but out of the sly, not letting you get out of the car. It's a shame, just a shame, especially for Caucasians and Muslims, if you consider yourself that way, of course.

[mace]

What kind of chaos is there to throw at cars with Armenian license plates? Okay, let's put aside that "dull for one". And if there is not an Armenian? I have a bunch of Russian acquaintances who ride the numbers of Armenia, Lithuania or Belarus.