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Take a breakthrough: on the state of affairs in Russian civil aviation

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Every time it comes to domestic civil aviation, especially about its domestic Russian lines, there is some kind of ambivalence. On the one hand, we have our own aircraft, and they are excellent, and the pilots are so professional that, as it turned out, they can even “board” a cornfield ... On the other hand, all these positive aspects somehow fade away right away, it’s worth starting to compare Our achievements in this field with foreign countries.


Such a comparison will be correct if you try to do it with states that have approximately the same territory and population sizes that are comparable with us. With the United States and China.

Well, well, I'll start with the basic parameters.

In Russia, there are today more than 100 airlines. In the United States, more than 200 operate in the passenger transportation market alone. At the same time, the 8 largest industry flagships carry out more than 90% of transportation. There are about fifty passenger airlines in China alone.

Airports and airfields.

Americans can boast of the presence in the country (possibly according to somewhat outdated data) of 86 large airports and almost 15 thousand airfields, so to speak, in the outback.

China is ahead of the rest: there are only 220 international airports, and more than four hundred air harbors in total. The number of small airfields is difficult to calculate.

What do we have?

According to the Federal Air Transport Agency, we have 91 airports of federal significance and less than 250 airfields throughout the country (data from the corresponding state registry). This is one of the keys to the main problem, which we will discuss below.

Next, we come to the most, perhaps, the main indicator - the volume of traffic. According to reports from the US Bureau of Transportation Statistics (RITA-BTS), between 204-2015, winged cars transported an average of about 650 million passengers a year across the country.

The Civil Aviation Authority of China in 2017 reported about 550-odd millions of passengers carried, while predicting that by this year this amount will exceed 800 million people.

In Russia, again, according to statistics cited by the Federal Air Transport Agency, approximately 2019 million passengers passed through all the “air gates” of the country in 221.

What conclusions can be drawn? The lag in our civil aviation is evident in almost all respects. Not critical, not catastrophic, but explicit. And this is taking into account the fact that in recent years the volume of the same passenger air traffic in the country has been growing at a fairly serious pace. From a dozen years ago, when the Celestial Empire was far from the peak of the development of its air service, we were five times behind it in terms of the number of passengers carried, despite the fact that in 1990 they exceeded by exactly the same amount.

The domestic industry has enough “winged transport” problems. This is the absence (at least at present) on its lines of competitive airliners, and especially Russian-made small aircraft. And the personnel “hunger” caused by the low competitiveness of our airlines in the selection of personnel and, above all, flight personnel, to which they can not always offer a decent level of wages and social guarantees. However, among the various troubles that still do not allow our civil aviation to truly “spread its wings”, two main ones can be named.

Firstly, this is a reduction in the number of airfields and, correspondingly, aviation “coverage” just in those regions where it is truly vital. First of all, it is the Russian North, the Far East and other territories where all other types of communication are extremely difficult due to geographical and natural conditions. It is in filling this “vacuum” that there is a huge prospect for the development of the industry, which, alas, is not used to this day. Perhaps the main obstacle here is the low profitability of air transportation in such areas. Well, this problem can be solved exclusively at the state level. In the United States, air transportation, which is, we note, exclusively in the hands of private companies, is subsidized in the multi-billion volumes annually by the state.

The second point, which is especially hindering the development of domestic transportation of Russian civil aviation, is also directly related to finances. We are talking about the cost of travel with this type of transport. Many of our compatriots would be happy to use it regularly, but ticket prices bite. In Soviet times, a flight cost its citizens a fifth of the average salary, and in 2000, having this same “average” in his pocket, a Russian resident could only admire the airliners soaring in the sky from afar. Now, of course, salaries have risen, but the prices for air transportation are not standing still, not without reason Vladimir Putin last year blamed the head of Aeroflot Vitaly Savelyev that their growth was even faster than inflation. Without an increase in passenger traffic, there will be no profit, and, consequently, no development.

As already mentioned, the “separation” of even the countries that occupy leading positions in the world in air transportation from our country is not so large that it could not be caught up with real efforts. This is especially true now, when the industry is in a state of deep crisis throughout the world: after all, it suffered from the coronavirus pandemic almost more seriously than all the others. It all depends on whether we manage to make a breakthrough, or, writing off everything as “objective difficulties”, we will continue to lag behind in the air transportation market.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 15 July 2020 19: 43
    -9
    The author is talking about what other "leap"? Whoever needs it flies, whoever needs it to go or walk.
    1. Telakh
      Telakh 15 July 2020 20: 59
      27
      What kind of aviation development can we talk about when the entire industry was strangled, you can’t fly legally, you have nowhere to learn, there are no domestic engines, and the average man, frightened by the media, looks at every device in the sky like a UFO? In the DOSAAF union, all concerned were taught at the expense of the state. In the states, the number of private pilots, koi are the main forge of personnel for GA, surpasses 200, and we have a miserable 000-5 thousand GA aircraft on the whole country.
      Now for basic training, take it and lay it out (while in Europe it costs 500 thousand), for a certificate of airworthiness another 150k annually, and start looking for where to buy a board to fly - abroad, giving another +45 percent to customs, or from your kulibins, thanks to whose enthusiasm at least something else is being done.
      1. Telakh
        Telakh 15 July 2020 23: 03
        +5
        Speaking the language of the layman, doing everything so that instead of tractors Belarus your fields plowed Mercedes and Porsche, with the obligatory passage of all that only licensed dealers. And only with original spare parts. For it is safer. And do not talk in the Lada also ride is also possible. There are everywhere radio and mudguards Chinese. Non-factory equipment - ayai. And their accident rate is an order of magnitude higher than that of Bentley. Drive less - fewer grandmothers will suffer at crossings. And study only through higher education. Where is it seen that in driving schools taught normally? Especially in foreign countries.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 15 July 2020 23: 16
        -3
        Paranoia is a serious illness.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 16 July 2020 13: 58
          -4
          Quote: EvilLion
          Paranoia is a serious illness.

          I agree!!!
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 15 July 2020 23: 54
        -5
        Honestly, I would not want to see PPL licensees fluttering over my head. I have enough riders on the road. Last year, these kids with fighters were caught.
        1. Telakh
          Telakh 16 July 2020 00: 02
          +3
          Here it is, the great paranoia cultivated by our media.

          This is just a consequence of the fact that such children are not able to get PPL.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 16 July 2020 00: 34
            -4
            But what paranoia is there: there are plenty of fools on the roads, all, as one with driver’s licenses, and here they will also appear in the sky. Even with pilot certificates. Fear yourself guerrillas in the dead corners.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 16 July 2020 13: 59
              +1
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              And what kind of paranoia is there: there are plenty of fools on the roads, everyone is like one with a driver's license, and then they will appear in the sky.

              can you confirm words with numbers?
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 16 July 2020 14: 35
                +3
                Google road traffic deaths in Russia. Then get behind the wheel and take a ride. Checkers, pilots, obochechniki, car smokers, curves behind the wheel, telephone operators ... Driving culture is zero point, zero tenths. In St. Petersburg on waterways the picture is the same. Do you naively think that the sky will be different?
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 16 July 2020 15: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Do you naively think that the sky will be different?

                  I think that your theses need to be confirmed by facts, and not sent to Google ...
                  if a person cannot confirm his words with facts, then he is just a balabol ...
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 16 July 2020 16: 04
                +1
                According to statistics, in the past year 164358 accidents occurred in Russia, 16981 people died in accidents, 210877 people were injured.
                Losses per year are higher than 10 years of the Afghan war.
      4. Kamchatsky
        Kamchatsky 16 July 2020 00: 07
        +5
        And in pursuit: according to the zombie creator, today slip information that Russia will prohibit the operation of non-serial light aircraft. Sailed. And what to fly on ??? am
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 16 July 2020 00: 45
          -2
          On a non-certified home-made car, it is also forbidden to appear on the roads. And the aftermath of the crash will be worse than a car accident. Now imagine thousands of rags in the sky.
          1. Telakh
            Telakh 16 July 2020 00: 59
            +8
            So that you understand, in terms of Rosaviatsia, we have everything non-serial except Maybach and Bugatti. Tomorrow, your driver’s license will be canceled, and the bread itself and oblique mow. Well, if you didn’t save up on Maybach. For people who understand the industry, it looks like this, you can try on yourself.
            The difference between a spherical sracer and a pilot is the same as between a backyard skateboarder and a bus driver. But it's so easy to talk by changing everyone with the usual yardsticks, isn't it?
            In front of your eyes, the remains of the state-forming science-intensive industry with the best minds are being crushed, and you rejoice considering everyone as "stoned motorbags." Bravo!
      5. Civil
        Civil 16 July 2020 10: 22
        +7
        Three reasons:
        1. The greed of airline management.
        2. Poverty of the population.
        3. Effective managers at airlines, they are the children of "strong business executives" or, like in Ilyushin, a strong journalist.
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 16 July 2020 11: 10
          +4
          Three reasons:
          1. The greed of airline management.
          2. Poverty of the population.
          3. Effective managers at airlines, they are the children of "strong business executives" or, like in Ilyushin, a strong journalist.

          + 100500!
          I would only swap the second and third points, in importance. All the same, the poverty of our population is not the fault of the population itself, but because someone eats, as if not into himself and with his hands in such a way that even now lie down and die.
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 16 July 2020 14: 01
          0
          Quote: Civil
          Three reasons:

          the main reason is the lack of population !!!!
  2. Svetlana
    Svetlana 15 July 2020 19: 44
    +5
    In Soviet times, a flight cost its citizens a fifth of the average salary
    ..
    Is this the average ticket price or what?
    That is, a ticket from my city to Moscow on the Tu-154 cost 62 rubles and this is more than 1/5 Z.P. and in the next, for 100 km. , town, on Annushka, 14 rubles ..
    The scholarship was 40 rubles (if that)
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 15 July 2020 19: 55
      +2
      Watching where to fly. From St. Petersburg to Moscow - 18 rubles. And in Vladik - 122. The whole salary of a young specialist. Now 20-25, which is about the same.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 15 July 2020 20: 03
        +2
        Said 1/5 of the salary. About the average ticket price not a word ..
        I wanted to know more precisely. Bo were airports, (airfields) where the flight was made only if there were passengers. That is, a flight was made if at least one ticket was sold. Itself on such flew .. 15 rubles cost a ticket, 2 people flew. An-2. Mountain airfield.
      2. Aag
        Aag 16 July 2020 08: 51
        0
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Watching where to fly. From St. Petersburg to Moscow - 18 rubles. And in Vladik - 122. The whole salary of a young specialist. Now 20-25, which is about the same.

        1988 year а / ticket Chita-Moscow (Domodedovo) -96 rubles.
      3. nikvic46
        nikvic46 16 July 2020 16: 32
        0
        Excuse me, Andrei, for interfering in the conversation on airfare prices. I flew from Kuibyshev to Moscow for 20 rubles. The service included a bus from the airport. I know guys from the North. They paid the money spent back and forth.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 15 July 2020 20: 08
      -4
      Well, now I looked at the coming days from Khabarovsk to Moscow and back. less than 25000 in both directions. . not so much considering the fact that now summer is so generally in vain. but here the virus is understandable. in autumn, winter and summer, prices are even lower usually.
    3. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 16 July 2020 14: 32
      0
      Minsk-Moscow 17 rubles, train (compartment) 10, salary 250/300; so consider ...
    4. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 16 July 2020 16: 26
      0
      Stipa in the mid-70s in a technical university was 45 rubles, and if the specialty was interesting to the Moscow Region, then 55 rubles. In senior courses (5-6), the scholarship was 75 rubles and some tax was already taken from it, 73 p with pennies were given to hands. The ticket Moscow-Orenburg until 1976 was 24 rubles (preferential student 12 rubles), after 1976 it became 29 rubles, privileges were reduced to 30%, and the student became 20 rubles 30 kopecks.
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 15 July 2020 19: 47
    13
    It is not correct to compare Russia with the United States and China .. With Africa I would .. I would probably be glad .. while we are still ahead .. or not?
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 15 July 2020 19: 53
      -1
      It’s incorrect to put a yard team against the national team, yes. And comparing is always correct.
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  4. alma
    alma 15 July 2020 19: 55
    25
    In the USA and especially in China, the population is larger. It also affects passenger flow.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 16 July 2020 14: 06
      0
      Quote: alma
      In the USA and especially in China, the population is larger. It also affects passenger flow.

      this indisputable fact prevents all-fighters from shouting "it's all gone!"
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 16 July 2020 16: 36
        0
        Lavrentiy. And the population here. Here you fly back and forth. And you are counted as two passengers. Our deep aviation has disappeared. These are both airplanes and helicopters.
  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 15 July 2020 19: 58
    0
    Take a breakthrough: on the state of affairs in Russian civil aviation
    Go! Who's stopping you? But where does the breakthrough Tu 134 !? You don’t even need to touch the legend. Let’s clearly distinguish the merits of one people. Acting in different conditions. In similar borders. But different borders. And even more so economic conditions. hi
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 15 July 2020 20: 36
      -9
      Where was he breakthrough, Tupolenok? A year later, the B-737, the most massive aircraft in the history of the GA, which is produced in modifications so far, began to be operated. This is a legend. Tupolenok is a good airplane, for its time, but nothing more.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 July 2020 20: 38
        -1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Where was he breakthrough, Tupolenok? A year later, the B-737, the most massive aircraft in the history of the GA, which is produced in modifications so far, began to be operated. This is a legend. Tupolenok is a good airplane, for its time, but nothing more.

        Yes, this is essentially my brother, in YouTube about aviation! Look and listen. This hi perhaps the best in the network about aviation. good yes
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 15 July 2020 20: 55
          -1
          Tu-104 is the second jet, and at the time of its appearance, the only jet liner in operation. This is a breakthrough. Tu-114 - a breakthrough. But not Tupolenok and not big Tupol - Tu-154.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 15 July 2020 21: 14
            -2
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Tu-104 is the second jet, and at the time of its appearance, the only jet liner in operation. This is a breakthrough. Tu-114 - a breakthrough. But not Tupolenok and not big Tupol - Tu-154.

            I level your minus. With your plus. yes Nobody remembered about the Tu-154, because it really looks like the ZIL refrigerator from the inside laughingBut the Tu-134 was really a breakthrough idea. And it is not always necessary to look at Wikipedia as Our Father. hi wink
            1. Pavel57
              Pavel57 15 July 2020 21: 45
              +4
              Tu-154 workhorse. But it’s better for the country if Ilyushin closed this niche. Tupolev snatched the order out of trickery, promising to make 20 tons lighter than Il.
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 15 July 2020 21: 48
                -3
                Quote: Pavel57
                Tu-154 workhorse. But it’s better for the country if Ilyushin closed this niche. Tupolev snatched the order out of trickery, promising to make 20 tons lighter than Il.

                Well, how about without intrigue and politics? Especially in such stifling matters? No way. I don’t argue with you radically. I affirm this absolutely yes
                1. Pavel57
                  Pavel57 15 July 2020 22: 10
                  +2
                  So if Tupolev was actually forging in the Soviet era, then what surprises us is the games in the capitalist era.
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 15 July 2020 22: 14
                    -4
                    Quote: Pavel57
                    So if Tupolev was actually forging in the Soviet era, then what surprises us is the games in the capitalist era.

                    Nothing. The capitalist era surprises with its predictable end. yesNo, of course I can discuss Putin's latest living "innovations" for housing. I would like to tell him. "Bunny" you are ten years late laughing Road spoon for dinner. yes
          2. Liam
            Liam 15 July 2020 22: 05
            +2
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Tu-104 is the second jet

            Actually 3rd. The first two were Havilland Comet and Avro Jetliner
            1. Pavel57
              Pavel57 15 July 2020 22: 12
              0
              And the GDR plane was ahead of the Tu-104.
  6. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 15 July 2020 20: 02
    +8
    "As already mentioned, the" gap "even between the states occupying leading positions in the world in air transportation from our country is not so great"

    Well, let's not even talk about the state, but just about the airlines:
    The TOP 5 airlines with the largest number of passengers carried, according to the IATA report, included:
    1. Southwest Airlines (151.8 million)
    2. American Airlines (144.2 million)
    3. Delta Air Lines (143.3 million)
    4. China Southern Airlines (114.5 million)
    5. Ryanair (112 million)
    now .. all Russian airlines combined transported 88,55 million passengers ..
    that is, you call it not a great margin?
    Is the US 711,5 million versus our 88,55 million is a small margin? the author .. would teach the materiel ..
  7. alexander1
    alexander1 15 July 2020 20: 19
    +5
    Yes, what have the jerks or times of the USSR! The author you turn on your head when comparing!
    He compared the United States with a population of almost 330 million and China, where one and a half billion people live with Russia, in which about 147 million people live. And if the author compares over the territory, then why didn’t Canada bring in for comparison?
    If we correlate the number of passengers per year in these countries to the population of these countries, the picture will be very optimistic for Russia!
    Or the author thinks that it will be profitable to build airports with first category lanes in towns with a population of twenty thousand inhabitants! Then the whole country will go to "peace"!
    And to compare the development of the aviation industry of the USSR, the USA, China, the EU and modern Russia is simply stupid! 350 million lived in the USSR. This is a huge air transportation market, plus CMEA, plus pro-Soviet countries! This is a huge market for aircraft! The same applies to the United States and its satellites. There are a billion people in Europe and China who could theoretically become passengers! And Russia can only rely on its 150 million and maybe 20-50 million in more or less friendly countries! Thanks to Comrade Gorbachev for our happy old age!)
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 15 July 2020 20: 29
    +5
    An article about everything and nothing ...
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 July 2020 20: 30
    0
    We have our own aircraft fleet, at best, Superjets! We "buried" by not putting into production a bunch of airliners, and we ourselves mostly fly on Western and American old junk, which is technically better than our superjets! And, most importantly, the authorities are satisfied with this, because apart from the talking shop, there is no progress! So, we quietly crawl to ourselves, like extras, on the sidelines of the world aviation industry. ....
  10. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 15 July 2020 20: 32
    +7
    = What conclusions can be drawn? The lag in our civil aviation is evident in almost all respects. Not critical, not catastrophic, but explicit. =
    Based on the number of passengers carried, this is not so obvious.
    In the United States, with a population of 328 million, 650 million passengers were transported annually. That is, every American was transported twice a year.
    In China, with a population of 1393 million. 550 million were transported, i.e. only 0.39 Chinese were transported (sorry for the fractions)
    In Russia, at 144 million, 221 million were transported. 1.53 passengers (again, sorry for the fractions).
    But there is no reason to object to your assessment of the state of civil aviation in Russia.
    A lot of potential passengers refuse aviation because of expensive tickets.
    1. Liam
      Liam 15 July 2020 22: 39
      +3
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      In Russia, at 144 million, 221 million were transported.

      Where does the data come from?
      From January to December 2018, Russian airlines served 116,1 million people. This is 10,5% more than in 2017, the press service of the Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviation) said.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 15 July 2020 23: 15
        -1
        Quote: Liam
        Where does the data come from?

        From the article. Did you read it?
        1. Liam
          Liam 15 July 2020 23: 16
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Liam
          Where does the data come from?

          From the article. Did you read it?

          This article on the fence is written
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 15 July 2020 23: 19
            -1
            Quote: Liam
            This article on the fence is written

            Strange, but I read it on VO. And you have it written on the fence? Is the fence painted?
            1. Liam
              Liam 15 July 2020 23: 30
              +4
              You read it on VO. But Mr. Kharaluzhny took the data from the fence nailed to the ceiling
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 16 July 2020 08: 27
                0
                Quote: Liam
                You read it on VO. But Mr. Kharaluzhny took the data from the fence nailed to the ceiling

                Nailed to the ceiling.
                Do you disagree with him on something? Tell us what. I also want to know what Mr. Haraluzhny has hidden from us. wink
  11. Free wind
    Free wind 15 July 2020 20: 44
    0
    One has 50 rubles for the rest of 10. One will fly in business class, the rest will be an economy class, but they will travel a little. Then the one who cuts 50 rubles and wants a million. Well, that’s it. Who has a million, will have private jets and yachts, the rest will suck their paws, and try not to bite, otherwise it will not last long. That's all you need to know about the demand for air travel.
  12. businessv
    businessv 15 July 2020 21: 02
    +6
    It all depends on whether we manage to make a breakthrough, or, writing off everything as “objective difficulties”, we will continue to lag behind in the air transportation market.
    As always, thanks to Alexander for the article! I think that the refusal to produce a substitute for the AN-2, in my opinion, Baikal, has already said everything - there will be no breakthrough, as well as short-range aviation.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 15 July 2020 22: 32
      +2
      On American engines, this new biplane did not enter. States to cover the supply of a turbocharged engine Honeywell TRE-331-12 with a capacity of 1100 hp like two fingers.
    2. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 15 July 2020 23: 10
      +1
      The upgraded Y-5BG light multi-purpose aircraft at the ground-based exposition of the 2019 China International General Aviation Exhibition. An operator from the Ural region of the Russian Federation sold ten light Y5B multi-purpose aircraft at an exhibition.

  13. borys
    borys 15 July 2020 21: 28
    +3
    The name civil aviation itself suggests that
    this industry is engaged in the transportation of citizens by air.
    And for this a lot of things are needed. Developed network of airfields.
    Powerful aircraft industry. Which, in turn,
    pulls a lot of other industries.
    In the best of times in the Ministry of Aviation system
    industry employed more than a million people.
    These workers were paid and quite often also
    became air passengers. In the system of the Ministry
    civil aviation also worked a lot of people.
    In this whole large complex there were not only people,
    but also other considerable assets - research institutes, design bureaus, educational institutions,
    housing, palaces of culture, clinics and hospitals,
    rest houses and sanatoriums. And much more. All this
    allowed to produce a lot of aircraft in their country,
    moreover, its price was significantly lower than import. It,
    in turn, made air travel affordable
    for most citizens. Actually, it should be so
    if reasonable reasonable reasonable and consistent
    public policy in this matter. Today
    such a policy is clearly not visible. Steer "effective
    talented managers "capable of solving the simplest
    tasks - buy, lease in the West and we will
    make money.
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 15 July 2020 21: 46
      +2
      if reasonable and consistent
      public policy in this matter


      Yes, whatever question (problem) you raise, everything depends on the internal politics of the state. Once upon him. Save the world. Yes, and there is no state thinking. Unfortunately. Therefore, there will be no breakthrough. Until.

      And the reason for the outrages is so obvious and does not happen. Her name is greed.
  14. Dart2027
    Dart2027 15 July 2020 21: 34
    -2
    Such a comparison will be correct if you try to do it with states that have approximately the same territory and population sizes that are comparable with us. With the United States and China.

    RF - 144,5 million
    USA - 328,2 million
    China - 1393 million
    Questions?
  15. fleks
    fleks 15 July 2020 21: 50
    +1
    There are two main problems in the GA: the lack of a small aviation school for a large one and the lack of a civil aviation industry-a superjet is not ours. Without solving these two man-made problems, there’s nothing to think about jerks. Well, in addition, the aviation security service is dragging down the industry expenses exorbitant
  16. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 15 July 2020 21: 56
    +2
    100 airlines in Russia only on paper. But in fact, few have their own fleet of aircraft and personnel. Otherwise, where did the phenomenon come from when passengers of two airlines fly on the same plane. Dealers can only whine about their hard lives and ask the state for financial assistance. Name at least one company that invests in training flight crews, correctly - no one. All just lured ready pilots from transport and combat aircraft. And they dream of how to still tighten the seats, but it’s better to make standing ones, as in a minibus.
  17. Bastinda
    Bastinda 15 July 2020 22: 27
    +2
    In Russia, again, according to statistics cited by the Federal Air Transport Agency, approximately 2019 million passengers passed through all the “air gates” of the country in 221.

    Maybe someone was wrong? What about 221 million?
    https://favt.ru/public/materials//3/7/6/3/6/37636b6346f8fcc19f022dc590992867.pdf
  18. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 15 July 2020 23: 03
    +3
    Yeah! I’ve heard about this jerk since 2008 ... And then Medvedev orders Boeing, and a few Superjets paint how the underdrive is ...
    By cheers news, several underwaffles are on the way at once .... but everything is somewhere in the future ....

    By the way, everywhere in 2019 they write 128 million people, and only 221. !! 1
    Now it’s clear how you can calculate the election of the eternal PZHV
  19. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 15 July 2020 23: 26
    +4
    At the end of the 1980s, we poor students, having walked so well in the Bryansk region — at a friend’s wedding — reached Moscow at the Kurkuruznik rubles, if memory serves us, for 15 rubles for a brother drinks

    What follows from this fact? repeat

    1. In any "tmutarkani" there was even a field, but an airfield from which you could get to more inhabited places
    2. The state then subsidized air travel - and therefore the people flew - and the farmer was considered in some regions as now a minibus - this is how air communication was developed
    3. The state needed then that in the country an ordinary ordinary person could quickly get from point A to point B

    Well, now ... now it’s very often cheaper to drive a taxi from point A to point B - than by plane (((
  20. Sfurei
    Sfurei 16 July 2020 00: 12
    +2
    Author, you are again comparing a snake and a hedgehog and trying to understand why they are different !!! An example from your article: America transports 650 million per year, and we transport 220 million.
    But doesn’t it bother you that in the USA the population exceeds the population of the Russian Federation more than twice ?? You also do not mind that we have a large part of the population of the Russian Federation concentrated in the European part (not at a great distance) and the Far East, as it were, doesn’t have such a passenger flow in principle ?? While in the United States there is a strong dispersion of population distribution, both on the shores of the oceans and in the depths of the continent ... Well, and in the same vein ... The other day, 08.07 - 10.07 flew on a business trip from Moscow to Krasnoyarsk (4,5, 7 thousand km): S8600 - there 9200 rubles, Aeroflot - XNUMX rubles. back .. Well, where are the tickets that are impossible for the population ?? And not every week, both ours and the Americans fly from city to city ..
    Nobody argues: there are problems in the industry, but you failed to present them correctly from the word "absolutely"
    So, that turned out to be a loud heading, but failed to bring the base to it.
    Therefore, the request, as with all authors: it is better to write less, but better !!
  21. Igorpl
    Igorpl 16 July 2020 01: 58
    -3
    Comparable territories and population. The population of Russia is half the size of the United States. I am silent about China. The territory needs to be protected, but it will never be easy.
  22. Kusja
    Kusja 16 July 2020 03: 36
    +2
    In 1983-84 he studied in the first year of high school in Saratov, flew home to the Caucasus. Either to the Minvod on the An-24, or to Nalchik on the Yak-40 (via Elista). Both routes cost about 20 r or less. Stepuha was 40 p. Is such a picture possible now?
    And yes, they say that Soviet folding beds were made from aircraft industry waste. Listen, but they are indestructible. But modern clamshells are almost one-time ... This is for you experts opinion of a person who is far from aviation. Yes, I flew to the Caucasus very often. After 2 years, the CA all this continued right up to the end of the university and the beginning of the end of the Union ...
  23. OXOTHuK u3 JleCA
    OXOTHuK u3 JleCA 16 July 2020 04: 20
    +2
    But just did not try without a jerk?
  24. lopvlad
    lopvlad 16 July 2020 05: 15
    -2
    Such a comparison will be correct if you try to do it with states that have approximately the same territory and population sizes that are comparable with us. With the United States and China.


    what kind of correct comparison are you talking about. With the world hegemon robbing the whole world since 1945 and with the first economy of the world whose development has been going on without stopping from the same period?
    Russia is the largest and coldest country in the world with a relatively small, relative to its territory, dying population and from 1985 to 2000 it was in the looting and decline.
  25. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 16 July 2020 05: 23
    +6
    Take a breakthrough: on the state of affairs in Russian civil aviation

    What is the "original" range of opinions: some - "continue to whine", others - "broke their hands in the blood" ...
    Civil aviation in Russia? Will you still assure me that the production of our own aircraft is more important for Russia? Yes, hell there! The most important thing is to rename the airports! fellow
    The price of fuel for airplanes, regulated "by the ring of a dog’s chain", is the main brake on the development of any private airline. I no longer take into account the technical structures, logistics and other things without which aviation (civil or military) cannot exist a priori.
    It turns out that the state of affairs in everything depends on a jerk! This is what the state of affairs in any industry that used to be state-owned looks like:
  26. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 July 2020 09: 25
    0
    Three hundred and thirty airfields with us. 15 thousand in the USA. And our passenger flow is only three times lower. What is this talking about? About the urgent need for air travel in our country, despite the hellish conditions and frantic prices.
  27. iouris
    iouris 16 July 2020 10: 45
    +1
    "Dash" - dreamed. Not everyone should write on such topics.
    No comment.
  28. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 16 July 2020 11: 08
    0
    It is beautifully said to SCENE, but this case gave, any effect, it seems not. Now, if Stalin said such a case, I think everything would be decided in a maximum of one week. The complete lack of political will. About the economy and say nothing.
  29. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 16 July 2020 11: 53
    +4
    No matter how much you spit, no matter how much you throw stones at the so-called "scoop" of the USSR, it was still a large aviation power. It will be remembered in childhood for the ruble of children rolled on holidays. Many after that they wanted to become pilots and aircraft designers. On AN-2 and Yak airplanes -40 as they flew by minibuses between cities, villages and villages. And what was the sanitary and fire forest protection. But now the bourgeois can fly in a private plane or a helicopter, mainly foreign made, in the sky of Russia free from the "scoop". I read one dude as for 100 dollars he flew all over Iran up and down. There the situation is approximately like in the movie "Mimino". Near any small large settlement there is an airfield and, sometimes, goats and sheep are carried. And our president wonders why our planes fly to China to refuel. There it is cheaper, although we supply them with our kerosene. That says it all.
  30. Old26
    Old26 16 July 2020 15: 32
    0
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Minsk-Moscow 17 rubles, train (compartment) 10, salary 250/300; so consider ...

    The figures also do not quite correspond to the realities. At different times, the salary was different, and the cost of travel, if it grew, was not much. The same Rostov-on-Don-Moscow cost about 17 rubles on an airplane (early 80s), a train (compartment carriage) - EMNIP - 13-14, but the average salary was then 150-170 rubles ...
  31. Klingon
    Klingon 16 July 2020 15: 41
    0
    Aeroflot is a snickering company, before luggage could be free (1 seat) regardless of how much the ticket costs, now if the ticket is cheap, then it does not include luggage, and if you pay for a piece of luggage, then the cheapness of the ticket is reduced to zero. For this reason, everyone who has cheap tickets puts their luggage in the form of hand luggage into the cabin! which, under extreme circumstances, leads to disastrous consequences (Sheremetyevo + superjet)
  32. Picus
    Picus 17 July 2020 01: 53
    +1
    It is not clear what the article is about.
    Like, you need to fly more often, regardless of need?
    In reality, if we exclude "tourism" from plans, then it is necessary to develop local airports ... But. This does not mean "to fly more for the sake of flying more" ... And, finally, enough already "catch up and overtake America" ​​...
  33. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 17 July 2020 06: 17
    0
    What a heresy ..

    The US population is 3-4 times higher, so a threefold greater number of shipments is like BE parity.

    With an average salary of even 35 thousand and a Mosca-Sverdlovsk ticket price of 4 thousand (out of season) - it’s kind of cheaper than in the USSR.

    Small aerodromes are therefore closed because they carry almost nothing. Their closure has very little effect on the total volume.
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  35. Semenov
    Semenov 19 July 2020 12: 10
    0
    Small aviation is impossible without small airfields. In the Soviet Union, each town had its own a / port, now it is private or farmers have plowed up, at night to get hooked on the sick on the way - the problem - no light, no permission. Huge money is invested in the Sanaviation national project: an hour of flight - 300 rubles, only new helicopters, with honey. module, no joke! But again everything is in private hands, the workflow is damp, there are no laws, there are no sites equipped (not to a / ports), there is no single management either! But the work is in progress.
  36. Konstantin Ivanov
    Konstantin Ivanov 21 July 2020 10: 55
    0
    , the author at least looked at the register on the Russian aviation website, and it is not very correct to compare the passenger traffic of the USA, China and Russia on the presented figures, we divide everything by the number of population and we get a relative coefficient, and then we multiply and get completely different statistics. A respected military review, or rather the editorial office, needs to work more demandingly with the material, and not merge any nonsense.
  37. bulava
    bulava 21 July 2020 12: 46
    -1
    If we remove from the chain of the aviation sector all sorts of "top managers", "privatizers", then the efficiency of development will increase significantly. The profit should settle in Russia, and not in the cells of a Swiss bank. Airports also need to be ultimately taken into government hands, as well as fuel companies. While bloodsuckers-spiders are sitting on this topic, there will only be a squeeze of profit.
  38. Mimino
    Mimino 4 August 2020 08: 45
    0
    We need a unified leadership. The collapse into separate airlines, with a separation of airports and dispatchers, has led to a critical state of the industry. But the trouble is that there are no personnel. The dominance of effective managers who know how to conduct business under tracing paper from Western methodologies is ruining the country.
  39. yehat2
    yehat2 25 September 2020 16: 37
    0
    the government, in addition to decorative slogans, is not at all going to help promote the sale and use of new domestic machines, does not improve the situation in industry. An example of this is the state of the MS-21 project. Where the Americans already have a portfolio of 200 ordered cars, we have a complete lack of understanding where and who will buy them at all.
    Therefore, I have no illusions.