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Part of the take-off deck collapses on the burning American UDK Bonhomme Richard

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Part of the take-off deck collapses on the burning American UDK Bonhomme Richard

Part of the take-off deck collapsed on the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6), an American landing ship burning for the third day, standing at the pier of a naval base in San Diego.


According to local media, huge sections of the deck fell into the ship, cracked the ship's hull closer to the waterline, and puffs of thick smoke fell from the cracks. The fire has already damaged one of the superstructures on the deck of the ship, in particular, the bridge and mast, which collapsed, were damaged. The ship, due to the accumulated water, precipitated and banked. Rescue teams are pumping water.

The fire extinguishing operation continues, but despite all the efforts made, it is not possible to extinguish it. The main focus is located inside the universal landing ship and there is no way to get to it. Currently around the ship are fire boats watering the ship with water. In addition, three helicopters circling above him, dropping water to the UDC deck.


In the Pacific surface command fleet reported 59 victims during the fire extinguishing at the moment. However, none of the victims needs hospitalization.

59 people, including 36 sailors and 23 civilians, received minor injuries as a result of heat stroke and smoke poisoning. None of them are currently in the hospital.

- said in a statement.

The fire report was received at 08:30 local time on Sunday, July 12. The fire started in the cargo compartment on the lower deck, where a large amount of marine equipment and equipment is stored. The situation is complicated by the presence of more than 3,5 thousand tons of fuel, located two decks below. At the moment, the cause of the fire is unknown.
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  1. Vladimir16
    Vladimir16 14 July 2020 18: 22
    +3
    At the moment, the cause of the fire is unknown.

    Russian track already considered? laughing

    Urgently impose sanctions! And immediately the fire goes out.

    Or

    "Here the butterfly flew,
    Wings waved,
    The sea began to go out -
    And it went out.

    Beasts rejoiced!
    They laughed and sang,
    Ears slammed,
    They stomped with their feet. "
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 14 July 2020 18: 25
      +1
      Not yet considered, but still to come. They can also blame Russia.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 14 July 2020 19: 00
        42
        Let it burn - and let it burn. The USA has a lot of ships.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 14 July 2020 19: 08
          -9
          Pacific Fleet - Against China. Look for Panda.
          about the dangers of extinguishing such fires ------ about 2 years ago, a familiar scraper: it is better to cut a missile shaft at a height of 30 m than a depth of 30 m abandoned good scrap metal.
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 14 July 2020 21: 00
          +7
          If they cannot reach the hearth, then it is doomed
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 14 July 2020 21: 48
            18
            It seems that it can no longer be restored.
            1. PN
              PN 15 July 2020 07: 45
              +2
              Yes, it’s cheaper to decommission than recover. Too much damage.
        3. The comment was deleted.
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 July 2020 19: 37
        14
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Not yet considered, but still to come. They can also blame Russia.

        I wonder what the foreign media are now writing, which laughed at the smoky "Kuznetsov" ?!
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 14 July 2020 20: 37
          32
          Like what? They will write that Russian ships do not know how to burn normally. Like this is how it should burn, like "Bonhomme Richard". Look how masterfully it burns, civilized and professional hi
          1. 7,62h54
            7,62h54 14 July 2020 20: 50
            +8
            Amer has white smoke, noble, not like Kuzya smoked with black.
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 14 July 2020 21: 27
              30
              laughing But doesn’t it seem to you that how tolerant is this American vessel smoking, somehow racist? White. what
              1. SASHA OLD
                SASHA OLD 15 July 2020 04: 36
                +2
                BlackSteamMatter !!
      3. Jager
        Jager 15 July 2020 07: 12
        0
        What do you mean "can"? laughing
    2. gurzuf
      gurzuf 14 July 2020 18: 25
      +4
      Highly likely wink
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 14 July 2020 18: 30
      16
      Quote: Vladimir16
      At the moment, the cause of the fire is unknown.

      Russian track already considered? laughing

      Urgently impose sanctions! And immediately the fire goes out.

      Or

      "Here the butterfly flew,
      Wings waved,
      The sea began to go out -
      And it went out.

      Beasts rejoiced!
      They laughed and sang,
      Ears slammed,
      They stomped with their feet. "

      Not yet, but they found a soaked and sooty officer ID, and only the inscription was wiped, "regiment .... to Pu..n" recourse
      1. Charik
        Charik 14 July 2020 18: 53
        14
        half-cook Poon-so this is the Chinese assistant of Chinese coca
      2. Gloomy skeptic
        Gloomy skeptic 15 July 2020 05: 16
        +1
        Is there a photograph with an earflap on the certificate or not? If in a hat, then the present, but if in a beach panama, then this is not him.
    4. Finches
      Finches 14 July 2020 21: 38
      +4
      This is just some kind of holiday !!!! laughing
    5. Maz
      Maz 15 July 2020 17: 33
      +4
      the price of the burned Udk is equal to the cost of half of the surface ships of the Russian Navy. Moreover, it was upgraded to F-35V vertical take-off
      1. Grits
        Grits 16 July 2020 14: 53
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        the price of the burned Udk is equal to the cost of half of the surface ships of the Russian Navy. Moreover, it was upgraded to F-35V vertical take-off

        It is a pity that the deck was not all forced by these F-35Vs. One could say that half of the cost of aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces is on fire
  2. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 14 July 2020 18: 22
    26
    Well, all, to write off.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 14 July 2020 18: 26
      12
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Well, all, to write off.

      Yes, you can forget about the ship as a combat unit. The task is to pump out three thousand tons of fuel and lubricants, and ... burn it with a bright flame crying
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 14 July 2020 18: 44
        +8
        The task is to pump out three thousand tons of fuel and lubricants, and ...

        Everything goes to the point that they will collect these thousands of tons on the surface of the bay at best. And at worst - it will be as you said:
        burn it with a bright flame
        1. Avior
          Avior 14 July 2020 18: 53
          -1
          I think they’ve already wrapped with special bonuses
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 14 July 2020 18: 56
            +2
            In the pictures they are not yet visible.
            There are fire boats, but they couldn’t stock up on booms.
            Who knew that everything would turn out like that? wink
            1. Avior
              Avior 14 July 2020 19: 35
              -1
              I think there’s always a base for them, if there is a threat of leakage, the fuel is not yet burning, and the boom will interfere with boats
            2. bayard
              bayard 14 July 2020 20: 03
              16
              Yes, it must be pulled in tows in the sea - let it burn out there, otherwise it will only be a prelude to a real fire show. The hull has already cracked in some places, the deck has failed ... He’s now burning them the whole base and spoiling the wreckage ...
              But on the other hand ... maybe it will be better? ... what

              America is on fire ... and you can’t put out ...
              Symbols ... Symbols ...
              bully
            3. Laksamana besar
              Laksamana besar 14 July 2020 21: 58
              +6
              Yes, it seems that you have already fenced:
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 14 July 2020 18: 59
      +4
      most likely to be scrapped, they still have enough money but the repair is still very expensive especially when the steel floated
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 15 July 2020 11: 29
        +2
        Ukraine can be sold
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 14 July 2020 19: 02
      10
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Well, all, to write off.

      Yes, it will not be restored.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 14 July 2020 22: 31
        +7
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Yes, it will not be restored.

        Then why put it out? It is necessary to open the kingstones and flood it. It goes out .... wassat
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 15 July 2020 06: 13
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Then why put it out? It is necessary to open the kingstones and flood it. It goes out ....

          put out your good is a natural instinct.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 15 July 2020 09: 02
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Then why put it out? Kingston must be opened and flooded

          On board are all kinds of fuel oil. It will spoil everything around.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 15 July 2020 10: 22
            +1
            Quote: Piramidon
            On board are all kinds of fuel oil. It will spoil everything around.

            Bonami to partition the water ... Then collect the trash.
        3. realdiamond
          realdiamond 15 July 2020 12: 51
          +1
          Well, you give, at the pier, organize such hemorrhoids))))
      2. dedusik
        dedusik 15 July 2020 11: 53
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Well, all, to write off.

        Yes, it will not be restored.

        Given the degree of damage, the vessel will, at a minimum, be out of service for years and may well be written off as a total loss. https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2020/07/12/uss-bonhomme-richard-burns-likely-a-victim-of-lax-fire-safety-practices/#3c8046a176a9
    4. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 19: 08
      +7
      he is already 22 years old.
      IMHO they will say that the ship is sure and very likely to be repaired. Then they will withdraw to the reserve and 5 years quietly write off.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 14 July 2020 19: 17
        -1
        Yeah, this UDC series is no longer being built, it's easier to build a new modern one.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 19: 20
          +5
          No, it will be more fun. America Great Egain and rulez will declare. A solemn meeting will be held in honor of the beginning of the repair, then they will quietly shove it into the reserve, they will tighten the deck with polyethylene, so that it does not leak into the holes and will be written off after five years. Maybe earlier.
          And there will be no replacement. UDC contradict the new doctrine of the ILC.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 14 July 2020 21: 02
            +1
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            UDC contradict the new doctrine of the ILC.

            But they did not contradict Trump's doctrine - and the redhead declared his intentions for 350 pennants. fellow
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 21: 03
              0
              And he didn’t beguile anything there? laughing
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 14 July 2020 21: 05
                +1
                Quote: Cyril G ...
                he didn’t beguile there?

                The bottom line is that, as is his nature, he truly believed in it. Perhaps one of the "well-wishers" whispered, and he was led away. If anything, it meant the total number of mattress Navy. yes
                1. bayard
                  bayard 15 July 2020 05: 03
                  +1
                  They already ordered the frigates - they will take on small tonnage.
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 15 July 2020 09: 14
                    0
                    Quote: bayard
                    They already ordered frigates

                    Well, in vain - the "mosquito" would have finished off much faster. yes laughing
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 15 July 2020 19: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Paranoid50
                      "mosquitoes" would have finished off much faster.

                      And he is not forgotten - unmanned anti-submarines.
                      Everything will go into the bill.
                      ... if it doesn't burn repeat
      2. Hagen
        Hagen 15 July 2020 10: 24
        0
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Necessarily and very likely to be repaired.

        If the deck failed, then the construct from overheating of steel acquired non-normative characteristics. This can only be repaired by replacing the entire housing. wassat
      3. dedusik
        dedusik 15 July 2020 11: 58
        0
        16:14 13.07.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX |
        Buldozzzer
        Artemus, As the Americans joked in the movie "Armageddon" on the theme of the Soyuz station - they change their cars there more often, and Russia has a station flying in space for 12 years. so, according to their own propaganda concepts, this ship is already an antiquity like dinosaurs. it's time to cheat.

        From comments on InoSMI https://inosmi.ru/military/20200713/247744558.html#comments
    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 July 2020 20: 42
      0
      Well, fine. Perekuyut swords on yelling. winked
  3. demo
    demo 14 July 2020 18: 23
    19
    I don’t know why, but does this news please me?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 14 July 2020 18: 45
      +4
      Trump is sorry ... bully
      I wonder who will be jammed for this epic fail? wink
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 14 July 2020 19: 02
        +2
        and where does the trump here it was not he who set fire to and the orders in the shipyards before him were already such a sufferer
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 14 July 2020 19: 06
          0
          Well, what did Russia have to do with their elections? Used the same.
          Everything that can and cannot be rainbow against him is used.
          They are so democratic ... smile
          Although I have a bump on Trump.
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 19: 25
          0
          How does it come about !!! He will be to blame. There is no one else. wassat
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 14 July 2020 19: 04
        +7
        Quote: Alex777
        Trump is sorry ...

        If, what, then he will be retired in ... Arbat Military District winked
  4. megadeth
    megadeth 14 July 2020 18: 24
    +8
    The second day I drink and enjoy this news ..
    1. Titus_2
      Titus_2 14 July 2020 19: 52
      +4
      In nothing, it is not so pleasing as the failure of its "comrades" and of course minus one combat unit is already good.
      1. snucerist
        snucerist 14 July 2020 23: 31
        +2
        It may be good ...
        The problem is that they have such disparate units.
        So, in principle, the squad will not even notice the "loss of a soldier".
  5. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 14 July 2020 18: 24
    12
    Smokes noticeably stronger Kuzi. And in the West, many made fun of our aircraft carrier cruiser, they say smokes. It would be better to look at yourself.
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 July 2020 18: 38
      +7
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      Smokes noticeably stronger Kuzi. And in the West, many made fun of our aircraft carrier cruiser, they say smokes. It would be better to look at yourself.

      And a hole on the deck without the help of a crane formed ...
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 19: 09
      +3
      Nobody sees a log in his eye. (c.)
  6. NF68
    NF68 14 July 2020 18: 26
    +7
    Fire! Encore! On the new nuclear AB.
  7. Avior
    Avior 14 July 2020 18: 26
    -3
    In service since 1998
    Not old, early to write off
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 18: 29
      +5
      No, that's all, the end. This cannot be restored. Internal partitions simply do not remain, this means. They will speed up the construction of UDC class America for replacement.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 July 2020 18: 33
      +5
      Judging by the floor of the described damages, there the whole hull was severely deformed - they would rather restore the ship vryatli just by ordering an additional one in the new UDC series.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 14 July 2020 18: 36
        +2
        Yeah, just extra expenses. The main thing people have not suffered.
      2. KCA
        KCA 14 July 2020 19: 01
        +3
        Do they have UDC from AMg? What can burn there so that the deck fails, do they have a sponsor for the construction of Deripaska ships? An aluminum tape instead of beer cans for the construction of the UDC let?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 July 2020 20: 21
          +2
          Apparently, the temperature of the fire was over 1000 degrees, the welds from deformation burst, all the rivets came out and the structures under their mass and the deformation broke.
          1. KCA
            KCA 14 July 2020 20: 29
            +4
            So what can burn like that? I don’t understand, a solarium 1000 will give only with a very good draft of oxygen (air), without oxygen, it doesn’t burn at all, plastic, so there’s a maximum of 300-400 degrees, I say aluminum-magnesium alloy is used for decks and bulkheads?
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 15 July 2020 00: 33
              +4
              Aviation fuel oil tanks with paint on the ship, it seems like repair work was going on, it means there were oxygen and acetylene bolons - one of them exploded and a chain reaction started in all the rooms and there the air supply was already good as the deck elements collapsed
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 15 July 2020 09: 11
              0
              Quote: KCA
              So what can burn like that?

              Something about the designs of aluminum-magnesium alloys slipped through the messages.
              1. KCA
                KCA 15 July 2020 10: 02
                0
                Well, I thought so, but al-mag melts all the same no less than 700 degrees Celsius, so that you need fire or water (steam) or the temperature of the thermite mixture, above 2000 Celsius
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 15 July 2020 10: 09
                  0
                  Quote: KCA
                  Well, I thought so, but al-mag melts all the same no less than 700 degrees Celsius, so that you need fire or water (steam) or the temperature of the thermite mixture, above 2000 Celsius

                  The glazing lattice of our aircraft was made of such alloys. When we cut planes for scrap, we tried to set pieces of such a grill on fire. Lighted up in a fire.
                  1. KCA
                    KCA 15 July 2020 10: 16
                    0
                    So different alloys, it depends on the magnesium content and other things, in our city MKB "Raduga" and DMZ, and there was a so-called Zavolzhskaya base, a railway sedimentation tank, where bulk and other cargoes were unloaded, DMZ and Rainbows were taken there, so as a child I played enough with al-mag alloys, and with titanium, and set fire to, and filed a file for the babakh, and scratched the tiles
  8. Ghost of reagan
    Ghost of reagan 14 July 2020 18: 28
    -17 qualifying.
    After the Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands, the WWII aircraft carrier Enterprise had several holes from torpedoes and bombs, but this did not stop him from serving until the end of his service. This UDC will stay on the pier for 1-3 years more than planned. The UDC type "Wasp" is still replaced by the UDC "America". But this one will not write off it was put into operation in 98, he retired early.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 18: 33
      +5
      It is easier to speed up the construction of UDC America than to restore it. And this is impossible, from a prolonged exposure to fire, the metal changed its properties, it will need to be cut.
    2. svp67
      svp67 14 July 2020 18: 36
      +3
      Quote: Reagan's ghost
      But this one is not written off, they brought him into operation in 98, early on his retirement.

      The cemetery is just right ... They will not restore it, they will let it go.
      1. purple
        purple 14 July 2020 22: 02
        +4
        Quote: svp67
        The cemetery is just right ... They will not restore it, they will let it go.

        well, or give Khokhlov
    3. KCA
      KCA 14 July 2020 19: 07
      +6
      With such a celebration of fire, there the entire cable economy burned out, at least, plus fuel and oil pipelines, restoration - disassembly to the skeleton, it’s cheaper to build a new one than to treat wounded animals
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 15 July 2020 10: 14
        0
        Quote: KCA
        cheaper to build than to heal wounded animals

        This is not a wounded animal, it is a corpse. So, only to the morgue. laughing
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 14 July 2020 18: 31
    0
    "Kitten" has overtaken the northern fur-bearing animal or what?
  10. Hikaro
    Hikaro 14 July 2020 18: 32
    11
    Disappointed soon poor fellow !! The hull inside will burn out at the seams will disperse from high temperatures and begin to sink right at the pier! Here, as someone correctly noted, the issue of pumping out the bunker will have to be addressed.
    Although it is not very much, but diesels and fuel oil are enough to lick up the water area!
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 15 July 2020 08: 14
      +1
      Quote: Hikaro
      Although it is not very much, but diesels and fuel oil are enough to lick up the water area!

      It is a pity that only 3000 tons, and not 20000 - then they would shut up about Norilsk Nickel.
  11. Gato
    Gato 14 July 2020 18: 32
    0
    And put it out? It will burn out - it will go out.
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 July 2020 18: 35
      0
      Quote: Gato
      And put it out? It will burn out - it will go out.

      Environmentalists are outraged ... burn a lot
      1. Gato
        Gato 14 July 2020 18: 38
        +3
        And he protests so much. There was nothing to offend Negroes. Well, this is ... Ship lives matter!
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 15 July 2020 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Environmentalists are outraged ... burn a lot

        For some reason, Greta Thunberg stuck his tongue somewhere.
  12. svp67
    svp67 14 July 2020 18: 34
    +2
    Already used to sink it, or something ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 14 July 2020 18: 49
      -1
      It's too early. In vain did they set him on fire. Fire takes away attention from protests in Khabarovsk ...
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 19: 27
      0
      It is impossible to sink. If not raised within a week. Cable tracks will go down the drain. And then it’s easier to make a new pile. See epic repair Nakhimov. The route cable was changed there due to the limited service life of approximately 40 years.
  13. jovanni
    jovanni 14 July 2020 18: 36
    +2
    You can’t smoke so much. Well, spoil the air at the same time ...
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 July 2020 18: 41
    +3
    Hana "kitten" ... it doesn't recover. There is another 3000 tons of fuels and lubricants, they say. If the fire gets to that, it might be "fun" throughout the water area too ...
  15. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 14 July 2020 18: 44
    +2
    You give more fires good and different in the American Navy !!!!!!
    (By the way: the BDB reports that they’ve not seen far off ... well, you know who! But what would you do without him? .... The cat left the kittens ... it's to blame!) wink laughing laughing laughing
    PSBBR-Babskoe Bazaar Radio.
  16. Gato
    Gato 14 July 2020 18: 57
    0
    Oh, beauty! Hmm ..
    We already have a fire. Firefighters will provide floods. It's time to call the corps de ballet fellow
  17. Graz
    Graz 14 July 2020 19: 05
    0
    I hope there the metal of the hull will lead from high temperature, and the ship will be written off for needles
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 July 2020 00: 35
      +2
      There, the corps was not the only thing that led — it had already begun to collapse with the ship.
  18. koramax81
    koramax81 14 July 2020 19: 09
    +9
    I see that not only we may have a fire in the parking lot .... Just do not hear those who trolled for this "Kuznetsova"
  19. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 July 2020 19: 11
    +3
    Probably the lawyers of the "green" do not allow to sink, they have strict ecology. Yes, there are losses, the last time a ship of such a displacement probably sank in Saigon in South Vietnam.
  20. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 14 July 2020 19: 51
    +4
    It’s for sure that Putin was set on fire; he wasn’t shown on TV for a long time, so he was on a mission
  21. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 14 July 2020 20: 11
    -2
    UDC will go to write-off.
    But that means it will be replaced by a more perfect "America". There is a silver lining ...
    Sorry for the boat. F
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 July 2020 20: 22
    0
    Is it exactly in the states?
  23. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 14 July 2020 20: 48
    +1
    While afloat it is necessary to use it as a target for Trump's super-duper hypersonic missiles.
  24. Avior
    Avior 14 July 2020 20: 49
    +1




    maybe they won’t write off
    inside, of course, burned out
    I think now they will appoint a commission
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 21: 56
      +1
      Fortune telling after the study will be announced. I put on what they write off. The ship is not new, this series is no longer being made, budgets for such repairs are not provided, but they are for UDC America, you can safely speed it up, they are intended to replace the Uosps.
  25. Avior
    Avior 14 July 2020 20: 59
    -2
    https://www.facebook.com/SurfaceWarriors/videos/vb.126238592607/271994524106654/?type=2&theater
    on the sides somehow you can not see the effects of high temperature
  26. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 14 July 2020 21: 08
    +2
    Burn-burn-clear, so as not to go out ..!)))
  27. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 14 July 2020 21: 09
    +9
    And the old woman is proruha.
    Smoked to see not prudently.
    And so ... It's good to burn, well done. This is a charitable deed.
    You look less people then kill. In insufficiently democratic states.
    1. Grits
      Grits 16 July 2020 15: 08
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      You look less people then kill. In insufficiently democratic states

      Right. Each burned meter of this ship is equal to ten saved lives somewhere in Africa or Asia.
  28. paco.soto
    paco.soto 14 July 2020 21: 16
    +2
    Neutral opinion: I don’t understand what and how can serve as a fuel source for such a temperature that destroys the deck?
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      Eugene-Eugene 14 July 2020 23: 02
      +2
      reverse thrust?
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 14 July 2020 23: 41
        0
        back thrust? ©
        Well, let's say as a factor in the consequences.
        But I do not understand - what kind of source of combustion can lead to destruction of the thermal deck.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 10: 31
          +1
          ..what kind of burning source ...... cable routes, they don’t need an extraneous oxidizer, in a braid it is enough for anaerobic combustion. given the fact that cable routes on ships are exhausted in kilometers. then those and ....... the same situevina happened to Komsomolets ... shortage, fire braid in which both the oxidizing agent and the material are there, the fire triangle closed, sealing the emergency compartment only aggravated the situation. instead of the expected in the absence of air, the fire will blow over, the opposite has occurred, the hull has begun to burst from heating, the cable-paths are interconnected and the fire spread to the following compartments .. they say that the jamb of the crew with the erroneous supply of high-pressure air added agony. .... well, that’s not important anymore
          1. paco.soto
            paco.soto 15 July 2020 12: 50
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            Thank you for your reply!
            I agree, as "the hearth by statute" also took into account.
            With a smile: my senile thoughts were so logical yesterday that they were not "brought" to anything logical.
            Regards to you.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 13: 25
              +1
              as for the read and viewed on this occasion, I’ll say as a professional, the fire services are completely zero .... in the early hours of the fire it was required to immediately introduce batches on BZZh directly into the outbreak and everything would be fine, but there were no other reasons to see such lots and hoped to an automatic fire extinguishing system. but it didn’t work. Further, if no one took the risk to save the ship, it would be necessary to sink it .... the depth would allow it to be lifted without tension later in a more or less general condition, and so it was stolen and now it’s not a fishing rod but a holey edge (sea basin) . in short, they themselves are to blame for their genders and other scum on ships with the military, who did not have the courage or responsibility
              1. paco.soto
                paco.soto 15 July 2020 14: 20
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                Thank you for your answer, I was thinking in exactly the same way yesterday, but all the same (with a smile) there is nothing in my brain "until the descent" in this case. I'm getting old.
                Regards to you.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 14: 35
                  +1
                  until it converges ..... but what actually should converge during the degradation of the rescue and emergency response forces ..... it did not start today .... remember the tragedy of Fukushima ??? 7 and you know that the accident was not only not eliminated, but also even before the localization of the end and the edge is not expected, the radioactive infection is still pouring into the oceans .... like this
              2. paco.soto
                paco.soto 15 July 2020 14: 38
                0
                they themselves are to blame for their genders and other scum on ships with the military, who did not have the courage or responsibility
                Reply ©
                With a smile: I agree, but I can’t even get through ITV. Tipo I do not know what is called in Russia. I was wrapped once a long time because of the wheels without Z. Eli then sold this cart.
                But in such a fire, I don’t understand anything yet.
                Instructions are indestructible
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 14: 49
                  +1
                  here even ITV ----- what is it? and even more incomprehensible ..... what is the difference? wheels with or without Zet
                  I'm not in vain Fukushima priper .... there the same situation was. instead of taking risks and choosing the decisive direction, no one dared to take risks. that is, the same thing is repeated when insurance and cowardice prevail over honor and dignity
                  1. paco.soto
                    paco.soto 15 July 2020 15: 06
                    0
                    here even ITV ----- what is it? and even more incomprehensible ..... what is the difference? wheels with or without Zet
                    I knowingly pinned Fukushima .... ©
                    I apologize for the expatriate comment incomprehensible to you. Yes, it was my mistake. This is a type of license for the year of operation of any cart.
                    Regards to you.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 15: 17
                      +1
                      Well, that’s how they would clarify, this is a type of car insurance ... by the way a good thing. I before the dad messed up and wrote an accident out of the blue, the insurance really helped ... and what is Z? So . as the hero of the cartoon, the postman Pechkin, said ... to increase his education
                      1. paco.soto
                        paco.soto 15 July 2020 15: 28
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                        ... and what is Z.? ©
                        With a smile: thank you for your complacency!
                        Z index increase of ordinary rubber from 90 to 400 € for lost old men of major like me.
                        Sincerely, I thank you.
                  2. paco.soto
                    paco.soto 15 July 2020 15: 18
                    0
                    e? and even more incomprehensible ..... what is the difference? wheels with or without Zet
                    I knowingly prikup Fukushima .... there is the same ©
                    I apologize for the familiarity: in France and the geyrope you can always buy any ten-year-old trolley 80 999 € vuy for ten pieces €, but it is impossible to operate.
                    Sincerely, I apologize for my comment.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 15: 39
                      +1
                      I understood everything on rubber ..... did not know. yes, in principle, I’m not going to visit this place, I’ll just know ... and no apologies .... you’ll stop by in Crimea
                      1. paco.soto
                        paco.soto 15 July 2020 16: 02
                        0
                        Thank you!
                      2. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 16: 06
                        0
                        but for now there’s nothing ... take care of yourself. and health .... and when you see the coronovirus, then chase it with bottles of alcohol. well, or on extreme stick
                      3. paco.soto
                        paco.soto 15 July 2020 16: 22
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                        Laughing in the beard: thank you! The virus has caused financial loss to people
                        But! Please do not be humorous - I took it and then I realized "ok" what kind of treasure my wife got and what ya was always, just in case, damn it.
                        Regards to you.
                      4. paco.soto
                        paco.soto 15 July 2020 16: 27
                        0
                        Comment do not read!
                        Did not pass the filter VO for chastity? With smile.
                      5. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 16: 32
                        +1
                        which was always .... that is, as I understand it, that a personal tragedy happened? the loss of the second half is still that tragedy. then a little positive
                      6. paco.soto
                        paco.soto 15 July 2020 16: 50
                        0
                        Laughing: no! They shorten the comment about my assessment of my wife and my self-esteem with the bats. So cute.
                        Thank you for the dialogue.
                      7. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 15 July 2020 21: 40
                        +1
                        good luck and health, the promised positive
  • faterdom
    faterdom 14 July 2020 21: 25
    +4
    Quote: Vadim237
    Judging by the floor of the described damages, there the whole hull was severely deformed - they would rather restore the ship vryatli just by ordering an additional one in the new UDC series.

    Now it will be possible to forcibly sell it to Ukraine. To further enhance the power.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 July 2020 00: 38
      +1
      Well, except to increase infirmities.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 14 July 2020 21: 28
    +8
    "Almost an aircraft carrier" was lost. Surely it cannot be restored. Since May, five aircraft have been lost. So they will continue to "respect" blacks and women in the navy along with transgender people, and will remain without an army and navy.
  • Dimon71
    Dimon71 14 July 2020 21: 30
    +9
    Not fit. But the Armenian air defense shot down the Jewish HERMES900
  • vavilon
    vavilon 14 July 2020 22: 03
    +1
    It burns well, it is often necessary to arrange such a spectacle at our partners.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 July 2020 22: 18
    +4
    Well, this UDC is no longer a tenant, everything went to sea. Not bad, I celebrated the Day of the Fisherman. It's not the end of the week. I demand the continuation of the banquet. The Americans still have a lot of ships, large and different. Do not mind if the British support with their "royal"! People think only "FOR" !!!
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 14 July 2020 22: 21
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Not bad, I celebrated Fisherman's Day. It is still not the end of the week. I demand the continuation of the banquet.

      Oh, would you try a fishing rod, but to catch carp with a finger on a pond of carp. crying
    2. kulinar
      kulinar 15 July 2020 00: 56
      +1
      Congratulations on the past holiday!
      Heartily!
      My dad gave the Atlantic most of his time ...
      Now he is retired, and finally with his mother ...
      But we scattered from the nest ..
  • Freedim
    Freedim 14 July 2020 22: 35
    +5
    Interestingly, can the Gerald Ford also be sunk by an unladen bull?
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 14 July 2020 22: 37
    +2
    The actors from the unreleased series "Sea Devils.Novy Svet.", The ship kirdyk, worked. wink
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 14 July 2020 22: 52
    0
    This is the intrigue of Rosneft)))
  • Andrey83
    Andrey83 14 July 2020 23: 20
    +4
    Congratulations to the Ukrainian fleet with a new military unit. Generally for nothing. For 2 billion. For the delivery and training of the crew
  • Uma palata
    Uma palata 14 July 2020 23: 45
    0
    Are we not yet blamed?
  • north 2
    north 2 15 July 2020 00: 18
    10
    if people died on this ship during a fire in the port, then we, as Christians, should not have been happy. And we would not have been happy. But as long as only the military equipment of the enemy of all normal humanity perishes, the joy of this is simply obligatory. Anything happens during operation and repair. But we must take into account how sarcastically and with joy the Americans, their lackeys and liberals in Russia lit up the fire at Admiral Kuznetsov. It’s that you, perhaps, don’t yet know with what joy the lackeys of America, say in the Baltic states, in their comments met the news when a Russian plane with the ensemble named after him crashed in Sochi. Alexandrova. And they rejoiced not because the plane died, but because people died. And how they rejoiced when Russian planes were shot down in Syria and the Russian military died. Not about the military equipment lost by Russia, they rejoiced, namely, that the Russian pilots, officers and artists. They were even glad that the wonderful woman Dr. Lisa died. I then read all their comments under the articles in their Internet portals about these tragedies and I know what a stench of joy there was. So we now have the full moral right to rejoice that the military equipment of the owner of these lackeys, who were glad that Russian people died, was dying. That is why we differ from nonhumans in that we will not be happy if American people die in some sort of disaster. And let the ship perish. Less technology from the villains is easier for the whole world.
  • sektant777
    sektant777 15 July 2020 03: 16
    +2
    Soon, Ukraine will have its own UDC. Not a bit, not beautiful. Grandfather went to Libya on it laughing
    1. Tzar
      Tzar 15 July 2020 06: 51
      +2
      Admiral Neizhpapa floats on it to capture the Crimean bridge.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 15 July 2020 05: 07
    +7
    Such a huge trough is on fire, and they attracted two helicopters with enemas to extinguish - still, it would be necessary to build personnel with buckets in a chain !!!
  • Tugarin
    Tugarin 15 July 2020 06: 36
    +9
    So there is no ship.
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 15 July 2020 09: 16
    0
    they’d already flooded for a long time, but to see a lot of fuel
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 15 July 2020 09: 39
    -1
    What can burn there for three days ?? (well, acre of fuel)
    Iron is poured with water .. but it still does not go out ..))
  • Kibl
    Kibl 15 July 2020 10: 16
    +1
    Creaked 2.0. Our gallant guys from the GRU turned off the APT of the ship, scattered rags along the aisles, poured abundant kerosene and threw the "bull". It's done!
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 15 July 2020 11: 56
    0
    It’s like iron from the keel to the klota, but you can’t stop burning ...
  • viktor.
    viktor. 15 July 2020 17: 23
    0
    I will not tremble the soul, I am glad Honestly.
  • shadow
    shadow 15 July 2020 18: 15
    0
    Judging by the pictures and messages, they put out gasoline.
  • alien308
    alien308 15 July 2020 20: 01
    0
    Crimean partisan 1974 (Vladimir):
    "what a source of combustion ... cable routes, they do not need an outside oxidizer, in a braid it is enough for anaerobic combustion. Considering that cable routes on ships are in kilometers. then those ... .the same situevina happened with the Komsomolets ... shortage, the ignition of the braid in which both the oxidizing agent and the material are "

    What materials can produce combustion in the absence of air access? Magnesium and aluminum with water vapor? Magnesium and aluminum with PVC? Can PVC be used with them? It seems for all reasons that ships should be banned?
  • acetophenon
    acetophenon 16 July 2020 13: 32
    0
    King has a lot ...