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In Ukraine, the deadlines for completing state tests of the Alder-M MLRS were announced

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In Ukraine, the deadlines for completing state tests of the Alder-M MLRS were announced

The Kiev design bureau Luch (part of the Ukroboronprom group of companies) is ready for mass production of several models of new Ukrainian missiles. This was stated by the general director of KB "Luch" Oleg Korostelev.


According to him, the Design Bureau intends to conduct state tests of the Alder-M MLRS before the end of the year, after which it will begin mass production of missiles.

We must conduct state tests by the end of the year. We are ready to mass-produce Alder, we are ready to complete Alder-M and mass-produce it, we are ready to start mass production Neptune

- said Korostelev, adding that all components for missiles are produced at Ukrainian enterprises.

The general director of the “Ray” explained that the task of the design bureau was originally to repeat the Soviet system of volley fire “Smerch” in the Ukrainian version, and then improve it.


We also went through two stages. The first is to repeat it - at the same time, we have successfully adopted technical solutions that our industry is capable of manufacturing and proved that it had a positive result. And the second point, to improve. What it means to improve - increase range and accuracy

- he said.

Recall that the first version of the Ukrainian Alder missile system with a firing range of up to 70 km on the old chassis was developed by the Luch design bureau, was adopted and has been produced in series since 2018. It is reported that at least 2019 Alder missiles were delivered to the Armed Forces in 2020-92.

The upgraded version of Alder-M with a firing range of up to 120 km is currently at the final testing stage. It is planned that the mass production of new missiles will start in 2021.
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  1. Avior
    Avior 14 July 2020 17: 23
    0
    Let's see what happens with mass production
    1. iConst
      iConst 14 July 2020 17: 26
      +1
      More than a year and 92 missiles - somehow not very. Either they are not needed or there is no corny money.
      1. Avior
        Avior 14 July 2020 17: 29
        -1
        Rather, an experimental batch
      2. svp67
        svp67 14 July 2020 18: 05
        +6
        Quote: iConst
        More than a year and 92 missiles - somehow not very.

        Given that each of them belongs to the WTO (high-precision weapons), I would not call this figure very small
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 14 July 2020 18: 28
          -2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: iConst
          More than a year and 92 missiles - somehow not very.

          Given that each of them belongs to the WTO (high-precision weapons), I would not call this figure very small

          But given that they have a "war", obviously not enough
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 July 2020 19: 04
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Given the fact that each of them belongs to the WTO (precision weapons)

          High-precision ammunition is an ammunition that strikes a single target with a probability of more than 0.5

          I'm afraid "Alder" does not pull the WTO. Unless the goals should be quite big.
          Even for the first time to get into an apartment building, school or kindergarten, accuracy is not enough.
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 July 2020 21: 22
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            I'm afraid "Alder" does not pull the WTO. Unless the goals should be quite big.

            Alas, it pulls. Warhead they have a cassette
          2. kutuz
            kutuz 15 July 2020 19: 22
            0
            "I'm afraid," Alder "- you are rightly afraid, it is the WTO that it pulls.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 15 July 2020 19: 28
              0
              Quote: kutuz
              "I'm afraid," Alder "- you are rightly afraid, it is the WTO that it pulls.

              If applied for large purposes such as "kindergarten", "hospital", "school" - it is possible and "pulls".

              And so no.
              Again. The WTO should hit individual targets with a probability of more than 0,5. That is, KVO should be in the region of 1.5 - 2 meters
              1. kutuz
                kutuz 16 July 2020 19: 44
                0
                You can call it whatever you want, but the deviation is 5-7m with a mass of its warhead, from 150 to 100 kg. can be brought closer to a direct hit. Moreover, 5-7m are the declared characteristics, in fact, according to military missiles, they just fit into 1,5m. This can be believed not, this is everyone’s business.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 16 July 2020 20: 35
                  0
                  Quote: kutuz
                  but the deviation is 5-7m

                  Already 5-7? In a couple of days, 0.5 will be like LGSN?
                  Notably there you hang noodles.

                  Be proud, the Americans have GMLRS half as accurate, with a 10-meter KVO. Orally, you are ahead of them! You use their own global positioning system better laughing laughing laughing In general, they consider 25 meters a great achievement

                  Quote: kutuz
                  Moreover, 5-7m are the declared characteristics, in fact, according to military missiles, they just fit into 1,5m.

                  laughing
                  And how many hundreds of rockets were launched to confirm this result?



                  Quote: kutuz
                  5-7m with the mass of its warhead, from 150 to 100 kg.

                  Likbez:
                  A KVO of 5 meters means that 99,9 in the period of% of the shells will fit into a circle of 5 x 8 = 40 meters.

                  So, I repeat, this is only for traditional purposes. Hospitals, schools, kindergartens and homes.
        3. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 14 July 2020 19: 27
          0
          NK WTO? the fact that they are flying in the indicated direction does not mean that they are definitely flying ... who will give them non-civilian chips for gps?
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 14 July 2020 20: 00
      -4
      Quote: Avior
      what will happen with mass production

      Finely serial, or large piece. There will be no more. The dime is dumb. The main thing is to report.
    3. fighter angel
      fighter angel 15 July 2020 09: 46
      -1
      Yes, we must not look, and not wait, but act according to the example of Israel.
      Precision strike "Caliber" neatly into this very "beam" ... And all business! No problem.
      Regarding the so-called global public reaction - yes to hell with them at all.
      Absolutely all world powers do this.
      Our country has the right to ensure its security by any means and methods.
      And in this case we are talking about a deliberate threat to the Russian Federation.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 July 2020 17: 25
    +2
    We must conduct state tests by the end of the year. We are ready to mass-produce Alder, we are ready to complete Alder-M and mass-produce it, we are ready to start mass production Neptune
    Can't wait to disappear from the globe? Well, well, an independent monkey with a grenade. fool
  3. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 14 July 2020 17: 29
    -10 qualifying.
    In lupanut for us
    1. C0ba1tum
      C0ba1tum 14 July 2020 17: 35
      +7
      Well, yes, suicide on the scale of an entire nation - it is
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 14 July 2020 17: 41
      0
      In lupanut for us

      They don’t lupan for us. And Donbass will have to defend ...
      1. KCA
        KCA 14 July 2020 17: 49
        -5
        Not earlier than next year, what is left until the fall, and how they can get out of the Minsk agreements, a lot of things can change, again, more than 260 Russian citizens live in LDNR, if pumped, it is quite possible to introduce a limited contingent, and from the west the Hungarians will come
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 14 July 2020 17: 53
          +1
          Not earlier than next year,

          You are my friend a pessimist.
          Remember today and your phrase.
          It seems to me that we will return to her soon.
          1. KCA
            KCA 14 July 2020 18: 10
            +1
            I am a realist, can you imagine the fighting on chernozem in the fall? There is no need to mine, just plow the field dry in the summer, and in the fall the tanks will only pass, but they will not be easy, the foot and wheeled vehicles will stand up, well, if only the Krazy are three-axle four-wheel drive on a cable behind the tank, to the frost, it’s relatively soft the climate will freeze, it will melt, bordering will continue along the gray strip, I don’t understand one thing, South Ossetia has quite good Slovak self-propelled howitzers on wheels, they don’t need them, in the South Ossetia there is a Russian military base, well, they would give LDN, and the shelling would have subsided
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  4. tarakan
    tarakan 14 July 2020 18: 49
    -1
    Well, I don’t understand why to do the WTO from the MLRS? Niche MLRS work on areas, a flurry of fire.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 July 2020 18: 58
      0
      Quote: tarakan
      Well, I don’t understand why to do the WTO from the MLRS?

      Cargocult.
      Because of the American Taku
      1. tarakan
        tarakan 14 July 2020 19: 02
        -1
        Good day, a tongue twister turned out
        laughing
      2. tarakan
        tarakan 14 July 2020 19: 04
        0
        Do Americans suffer such a perversion? (At the stage of acceptance into the army?)
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 July 2020 19: 08
          0
          Quote: tarakan
          Do Americans suffer such a perversion?

          Yes. They have not been producing uncontrolled RSs for the MLRS for ten years now. And already from about five years, they will utilize the remaining in the warehouses.

          Coercive measure due to difficulties with logistics.
  5. svoit
    svoit 14 July 2020 21: 01
    -2
    Quote: tarakan
    Niche MLRS work on squares, a flurry of fire.

    Well, if intelligence is sitting "in one place," then nothing else is left, the work on the areas is not done from a good life, but from bad intelligence, which cannot give a clear target designation.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 July 2020 19: 38
      0
      Quote: svoit
      work on areas not from good life done, but from poor intelligence

      laughing
      Yeah. And the harvesters, too, "not from a good life", with the correct organization, is it enough to have a bunch of villagers cutting the spikelets one by one with scissors?
  6. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 15 July 2020 04: 44
    +1
    They have already released the Hammer mortar. As a result of exploitation, there are more victims of mortar crews than opponents - now we are looking forward to which direction the Alder will fly !!!
  7. KCA
    KCA 15 July 2020 16: 42
    +1
    Not friends have reached incredible heights, do not know, probably, that their ideal "Tornado" is already being slowly decommissioned from service, being replaced by "Tornado-S", they also repeated its shells? There are 8 varieties
  8. Irek
    Irek 15 July 2020 17: 36
    0
    An advanced country, the development of the USSR gives advanced weapons.
  9. agoran
    agoran 15 July 2020 22: 30
    0
    Another bda blah.
    That's when it goes into the series or they can sell it to someone, then we'll see.