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Kiev intends to put an end to the negotiations on the Donbass

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Kiev intends to put an end to the negotiations on the Donbass

Ukraine is an independent country and will pass the laws that it considers necessary, and not those that Russia needs. This statement was made by the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba in an interview with the publication "Today".


Kuleba commented on Russia's demand for activation of the Minsk agreements. He admitted that Moscow did not put forward an ultimatum to Kiev, which allegedly demanded changes to the country's constitution and speed up the implementation of the Steinmeier Formula, but noted that Ukraine would not fulfill Minsk-2 on Russian terms.

When Russia is not satisfied with the provisions of any law of Ukraine or a bill of Ukraine, then this is a problem for Russia, not Ukraine. We are an independent country and will adopt the laws that we consider necessary.

- He said, adding that Kiev "respects" the international obligations undertaken, but no one will "indicate" to Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Foreign Minister stressed that the implementation of the Minsk agreements should begin with a ceasefire in the Donbass and called on Russia to "take a constructive position" on this issue.

Point. And putting the Minsk agreements on its head and starting to demand some kind of political reforms and transformations in Ukraine before fulfilling all the other points is literally shifting responsibility from a sore head to a healthy one. The mention of "certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions" in the Ukrainian constitution, prescribed in Minsk-2, is unacceptable for Kiev

- he said.

It should be noted that recently in Ukraine more and more often statements have been made about the impossibility of fulfilling the Minsk agreements and the need to revise them. More recently, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky threatened to withdraw from the Norman format and the Minsk agreements, demanding a review of the terms of the agreement.

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  1. 501Legion
    501Legion 14 July 2020 09: 38 New
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    страна которая ведёт себя как "проститутка" по определению не может быть независимой
    1. Cruel beaver
      Cruel beaver 14 July 2020 09: 49 New
      +9
      Why "how"?
    2. Civil
      Civil 14 July 2020 09: 51 New
      +5
      Frozen conflict, another one on the territory of the USSR.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 14 July 2020 10: 02 New
        +3
        At the same time, the US military presence in Poland is growing
      2. Avior
        Avior 14 July 2020 10: 03 New
        +9
        Not very frozen, skirmishes all the time, can blaze at any time
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 July 2020 10: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        Frozen conflict, another one on the territory of the USSR.

        In fact, there is no conflict, but the Ukrainian dope is over the edge.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 14 July 2020 11: 03 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          In fact, there is no conflict ...

          Thousands of dead, but in your opinion there is no conflict. request
          Our compatriots perish.
          Millions of brainwashed and they salute the Nazis.
          And in your opinion there is no conflict.

          "Весёлый" ты парень, Влад.

          The very existence of Ukraine within its real borders as a state is a conflict.
          The Russian cities of Odessa, Kherson, Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk and many others were cut off from Russia overnight.
          Russian people were forbidden to live in Russian. Banned to speak Russian. Banned to teach children in their native language.

          And you say there is no conflict.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 14 July 2020 12: 55 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Thousands of dead, but in your opinion there is no conflict.
            Our compatriots perish.

            This is already the consequences of the conflict, but because of what did it happen? Because of the Russian language in Ukraine, and for the exaltation of Bandera and the Nazis. To the authorities of Ukraine elementary, it was possible to extinguish this conflict, and there would be no civil war. The Ukrainian authorities did not support the people, but the latter. And now, this fire cannot be put out for the next 100 years (if they exist).
          2. CSKA
            CSKA 14 July 2020 17: 40 New
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            Quote: Vladimir16
            The Russian cities of Odessa, Kherson, Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk and many others were cut off from Russia overnight.

            Yeah. Who cut off in the course?
            1. sleeve
              sleeve 15 July 2020 04: 48 New
              0
              The communists cut off. Not even that. Communist elite.
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 15 July 2020 11: 40 New
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                Quote: sleeve
                The communists cut off. Not even that. Communist elite.

                Exactly. Specifically, Lenin. We can all say friendly thanks to him for creating the pseudo-countries of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR, for the northern regions of Kazakhstan, which were still part of the Republic of Kazakhstan under Peter the Great. Stalin for Moldova, Vilnius surrendered is not clear what the devil Lithuania. One can thank for Yuryev who was given to Estonia; it is not clear for what merits. East of Latvia. Sincerely without irony, you can thank for the Kaliningrad region, but it is not clear why it is not within the borders of East Prussia.
          3. Cristall
            Cristall 14 July 2020 21: 57 New
            -6
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Russian people were forbidden to live in Russian. Banned to speak Russian. Banned to teach children in their native language.

            apparently today as yesterday (and the day before yesterday, etc.) all violated the prohibitions.
            Today in Ukrainian I heard only 2 words (and even that was a banter).
            Other violators of the prohibitions. And so in the whole city and country ... laughing
      4. RMT
        RMT 14 July 2020 10: 29 New
        10
        Had frozen! A real conflict, not smoldering, but even burning!
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 14 July 2020 10: 05 New
      +2
      Ukraine is an independent country and will pass the laws that it considers necessary, and not those that Russia needs. This statement was made by the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba
      Quote: 501Legion
      страна которая ведёт себя как "проститутка" по определению не может быть независимой

      And she’s not such a prostitute. repeat Is it a little, for a little money, so there weren’t enough for lace panties. And the fact that the face is all cyanotic is not a binge. Robbers, they brought gas to a big hat until they got it, but Galya seduced the young fool (I don’t know a more idiotic song).
      You can’t be a little pregnant? And the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba, maybe.
      When Russia is not satisfied with the provisions of any law of Ukraine or a bill of Ukraine, then this is a problem for Russia, not Ukraine
      If the problems of Ukraine become problems of Russia, then Ukraine does not need a Foreign Ministry. Point.
    4. Hagen
      Hagen 14 July 2020 10: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: 501Legion
      страна которая ведёт себя как "проститутка" по определению не может быть независимой

      Do not offend prostitutes. Those respond with their body to offers that are advantageous to them. Ukrainian politicians, unlike prostitutes, kill their citizens for selfish reasons and on the basis of ideological perversions for which they are not allowed into a decent society. At the same time, Western society does not turn decent to call language, for it is two-faced and no less than Kiev politicians, bloodthirsty. About the independence of Ukraine to speak completely inappropriate.
    5. Ruslan Tarnovsky
      Ruslan Tarnovsky 14 July 2020 12: 30 New
      0
      And what can you do, dill as a nation corrupt and wretched
    6. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 14 July 2020 12: 50 New
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      A country that behaves like an enemy ...
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 14 July 2020 13: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        A country that behaves like an enemy ...

        Почему "как"? Она и есть враг. Такой себе вполне состоявшийся враг, мало того, идейный враг....
  2. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 14 July 2020 09: 38 New
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    Well, let them go out of the Minsk agreements. In Western Europe, they have long dreamed of lifting sanctions against Russia, and this will be an occasion.
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 July 2020 10: 06 New
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      Quote: Sahalinets
      Well, let them go out of the Minsk agreements.

      НеЗЯ. "Барин" не разрешает
      Quote: Sahalinets
      In Western Europe, they have long dreamed of lifting sanctions against Russia, and this will be an occasion.

      And precisely because of this
  3. iouris
    iouris 14 July 2020 09: 39 New
    0
    Dot, dot, comma, minus - face curve.
  4. Andrey the Magnificent
    Andrey the Magnificent 14 July 2020 09: 41 New
    +1
    Eka Kuivlian suffered! belay
    1. MMX
      MMX 14 July 2020 17: 53 New
      +1
      Immediately captured.
  5. Lopatov
    Lopatov 14 July 2020 09: 44 New
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    It seems that there is one Kremlin agent sitting on the other and chasing the third.
    Only Moscow declared limited contractability of Kiev, as the local e ... geniuses brilliantly confirmed this.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 July 2020 09: 50 New
      +1
      so there they are. how many do not rearrange from place to place. their war is on and they are catching the president on an adultery) well, there are no other problems in the country) the main thing is how the gunpowder spoke to Putin and how he entertains himself with the secretary) this is a big top and not a country
    2. cniza
      cniza 14 July 2020 09: 53 New
      +2
      It seems that they are already competing, which of them is a greater agent. yes
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 14 July 2020 10: 24 New
        -5
        looking who else whose agent

  6. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 14 July 2020 09: 48 New
    +2
    Yes, where are you going to go when the roasted cock pecks in the dark .....
    Accept all the laws that dictate to you. It's a question of time.... am
  7. cniza
    cniza 14 July 2020 09: 51 New
    +6
    We are an independent country and will adopt the laws that we consider necessary.

    - He said, adding that Kiev "respects" the international obligations undertaken, but no one will "indicate" to Ukraine.


    He grumbled not childishly, but apparently the minke whale stood opposite with the text what is needed and how to say it, it is of course figurative, but they thereby drive themselves into full zugzwang ...
  8. Irek
    Irek 14 July 2020 09: 54 New
    +7
    It would seem that there cannot be a minister dumber than Klimkin, but 404 a country of incredible opportunities, found Kulob.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 14 July 2020 11: 02 New
      +2
      На самом деле это говорит о простом факте. Не Климкин тупой и не Кулеба, это не чья-то тупость консолидированная позиция украинских элит. И поменять её не смогли даже выборы которые вроде бы отстранили от власти "партию войны". И что мы имеем в результате? Имеем Зеленского, который обещал прекратить войну, в прочем как и Порошенко, а теперь ведет себя в точности так же как и вел Порошенко. А к концу своей каденции, глядишь точно так же попытается выехать на "патриотической" риторике.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 July 2020 09: 56 New
    +2
    Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba
    На Украине, что не глава, то кладезь "знаний, ума, профессионализма" и проявления хуторской тупости.
    Киев "уважает" взятые на себя международные обязательства, но никто не будет "указывать" Украине
    Did you understand what you said? Arrogance with a bare ass and a washed-up embroidered shirt looks rather silly and funny.
  10. Tuzik
    Tuzik 14 July 2020 09: 56 New
    +3
    When Russia is not satisfied with the provisions of any law of Ukraine or a bill of Ukraine, then this is a problem for Russia, not Ukraine

    Angry Russia may end up in a bigger problem.
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 July 2020 10: 00 New
    +2
    это в буквальном смысле перекладывание ответственности с больной головы на здоровую. Упоминание "отдельных районов Донецкой и Луганской областей" в украинской конституции, прописанное в "Минске-2", неприемлемо для Киева
    So Kuleba himself, in his words, is shifting from his Kiev sick head to all heads, but not to his own. In the Minsk agreements, Ukraine should implement them, and not Russia, France, Germany.
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 14 July 2020 10: 05 New
    +1
    Oh how, the July aggravation of the non-brothers ......
  13. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 14 July 2020 10: 06 New
    +1
    Ukraine is an independent country and will pass those laws that it considers necessary, and not those that the United States needs ........, oh, excuse me, - RUSSIA.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 July 2020 10: 07 New
    +2
    Are you bolder? What is it for? They sensed that the USA was not up to them, and hysterically trying to remind themselves ...?
  15. hermit
    hermit 14 July 2020 10: 14 New
    -12
    There is no alternative to Minsk! Who said? Well, let the one who said this and implement the Minsk agreements. But in Kiev they don’t think so.
    1. Shadow041
      Shadow041 14 July 2020 10: 48 New
      11
      Yes, and I do not think so. I believe that Bandera understand only power, and they need to be driven from Russian soil by all means available to the Russian Federation
    2. bar
      bar 14 July 2020 11: 13 New
      +2
      There is no alternative to Minsk! Who said? Well, let the one who said this and implement the Minsk agreements. But in Kiev they don’t think so.

      And they’re doing it right. There is an alternative - to finally recognize the independence of the DPR / LPR like Abkhazia / Ossetia and send troops there to defend the border at the request of their legitimate authorities.
      I think this will happen as soon as the Zhovtoblakitnye officially withdraw from the Minsk agreements.
  16. Campanella
    Campanella 14 July 2020 10: 15 New
    0
    Украина стараниями майданщиков попала в цугцванг. Вот к чему приводит "революцию" с тупым желанием жить как в Европе и стать европейцами.
    Desires look similar and the Russian opposition will approach Western values. That is why I can’t stand the spirit of our opposition. Ekhovian premature expert journalists look especially moronic.
    It’s clear that the Putin administration is also that system and besides Putin’s statements about caring for ordinary people
    there are no real cases, it is not clear how he is going to solve the problems of an ordinary person without ideology.
    The Communist Party has an idea, but there are no resources and approaches to its implementation.
    Here Ukraine is also tormented by the absence of real ideas and forces capable of solving these problems.
  17. yfast
    yfast 14 July 2020 10: 16 New
    +1
    Crazed by the presence of javelins? So they will only make you angry, and then no one will allocate any corridors, only they will be taken in the form of a trident fillet. And we will help Trump for the Javelins to win the election, and he will have a few more unforgettable years of excuse.
  18. Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 July 2020 10: 23 New
    +2
    Ukraine is an independent country

    Why, with obvious lies, start building a phrase? Go ahead and read this
    their clerk is not interested.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 14 July 2020 10: 28 New
    +6
    We are an independent country and will adopt the laws that we consider necessary.


    Independent country ? From which independent .............. laughing lol lol
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  21. Shadow041
    Shadow041 14 July 2020 10: 46 New
    +6
    With this approach, the point in relations with the Russian Federation can be achieved only by returning everything that was stolen from Russia, returning to the borders of 1654, where they crawled into Russia.
  22. pexotinec
    pexotinec 14 July 2020 11: 06 New
    +4
    At the expense of the independent, it was already funny.
  23. bar
    bar 14 July 2020 11: 09 New
    +3
    Kiev intends to put an end to the negotiations on the Donbass

    It's time, how many boobs can be wrinkled. Then immediately it will be possible to recognize the DPR / LPR as the only option to stop the killing of people.
  24. hermit
    hermit 14 July 2020 11: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Shadow041
    Yes, and I do not think so. I believe that Bandera understand only power, and they need to be driven from Russian soil by all means available to the Russian Federation

    Your mouth ...
  25. gurzuf
    gurzuf 14 July 2020 12: 27 New
    0
    Oh! Joseph Vissarionovich is not enough!
  26. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 14 July 2020 14: 49 New
    +1
    This is an unofficial chatter for a journalist and residents of Ukraine. True, from one of the highest officials of Ukraine. And OFFICIALLY they brazenly lie that they are FOR the Minsk agreements (with FULL ignoring and sabotage!). Dill forced, following the instructions of the State Department, pull the rubber. But the Russian authorities, for some reason, play along with them, DON'T demanding DIRECTLY obligatory fulfillment by the dill of the points of the Minsk agreements within the agreed period and NOT demanding Macron and Merkel to adequately respond to the dill sabotage!

    А насчёт "независимости" - ОЧЕНЬ смешно! laughing laughing laughing
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 14 July 2020 22: 07 New
      -8
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      And OFFICIALLY they brazenly lie that they are FOR the Minsk agreements (with FULL ignoring and sabotage!)

      it’s no secret that all parties do.
      Ordlo, for example, is always for MS2, but it doesn’t stop always talking about being independent, that you will never return to Ukraine, and generally to the Russian Federation.
      Россия-всегда "нет Альтернативы МС2". А сама говорит что надо ЛДНР взять в состав, помогать, вообще войну начать с Украину или нанести удар. Отторгнуть у нее области "убив там всех бандеровцев, точнее местных которые будут не согласны с таким освобождением"
      And then the authorities refuted such exclamations and again MC2 without an alternative. Only Kiev is to blame.
      Ukraine also claims that MC2 is needed. But not like that, and not like that at all. And she needs this one. And Moscow is to blame if that.
      Just a clash of interests.
      And nobody really needs this region. Two countries destroyed it in a couple under slogans and promises.
      And it is already unprofitable to take it back. But to refuse is not prestigious and they will not understand theirs.
      Therefore, MS 2 is a political corpse, for chattering each other.
      Yes, you take the region back, but don’t join NATO.
      Yes, you take yourself + sanctions and further pressure
      - Yes, I’m an independent state. Oh two, with customs. RF will help if that ..
  27. kaban7
    kaban7 14 July 2020 14: 54 New
    0
    Who would doubt it - from the very beginning it was obvious that these homosexuals would not do anything.
  28. orionvitt
    orionvitt 14 July 2020 15: 01 New
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    Kiev intends to put an end to the negotiations on the Donbass
    Kiev put an end to the Minsk agreements, a minute after their signing, back in 2015.
    отметил, что Украина не будет выполнять "Минск-2" на российских условиях.
    Причём здесь Россия? Воистину, скоро украина будет напрямую ассоциироваться с неадекватностью. Выполнять, то что подписали, строго по пунктам, это оказывается "Российские условия". Почему тогда не "французские условия", или не "германские"? Они тоже, как "гаранты", требуют выполнения. Ах да, то как говорится другое.
  29. +5
    +5 14 July 2020 15: 13 New
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    Ukraine is an independent country and will pass the laws that it considers necessary, and not those that Russia needs.

    Wow, what a brave tailor ... but weakly replace Russia with the United States in this phrase, eh ???
  30. Hikaro
    Hikaro 14 July 2020 18: 27 New
    +2
    In my opinion, it is already with Ukraine that it is necessary to put an end to it, and moreover, it’s bold in all respects !!
  31. steelmaker
    steelmaker 14 July 2020 18: 59 New
    0
    Ну раз не хотят выполнять Международные договорённости по Донбассу, значит Донбасс им не нужен. Россия имеет право Донбасс присоединить себе, как Крым. Тем более что референдум Донбасс уже проводил. Но у Путина "кишка тонка", повторить трюк. Донбасс, как Приднестровье, - ни мира ни войны.
  32. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 14 July 2020 19: 15 New
    0
    Ukraine is an independent country and will pass the laws that it considers necessary, and not those that Russia needs.

    Well done! What is there with the sale of land?
  33. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 20 July 2020 19: 04 New
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    What a disgustingly narrow-minded mug with a clear accent of hatred for the human race! Tell me - do the Westerners have such an expression on their faces?