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US Department of Defense orders the first modernized F-15EX fighter

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US Department of Defense orders the first modernized F-15EX fighter

The US Department of Defense has ordered the first modernized F-15EX fighter jets; there will be eight aircraft in the first batch. This was reported by the press service of the company Boeing.


According to information, the US Air Force made contact with Boeing to build the first eight F-15EX fighters capable of carrying hypersonic weapon. It is also reported on the conclusion of an unlimited contract for the further supply of these fighters in the amount of $ 23 billion. The company plans to supply the US Air Force 144 fighter with an upgraded version of the F-15EX.

The US Air Force signed a $ 1,2 billion contract with Boeing to build the first batch of eight modern F-15EX fighters (...) The F-15EX carries more weapons than any other fighter of its class and can launch hypersonic weapons up to 22 feet (about 7 meters) and weighing up to 7000 pounds (about 3,2 tons)

- the document says.

It is reported that the first two F-15EX fighters will be produced in the second quarter of 2021, the remaining six in 2023. All eight aircraft will be deployed at Eglin Air Base in Florida, where they will take part in the tests.

It is specified that the F-15 is not purchased to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already outdated fleet of F-15Cs in service and as a carrier of hypersonic weapons. In the future, it is planned to purchase 18-24 fighters annually.

Note that the last purchases of the F-15 were made by the US Air Force in 2001. Then the troops were put five new Strike Eagle
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 July 2020 09: 06 New
    +2
    Who said the F-15s retired? And this is just the "shock" version. An analogue of our Su34.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 13 New
      +3
      F-22 will be written off earlier than F-15 :)
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 07 New
        +3
        Definitely. Generally Eagle is great. My favorite modern yeroplan (from non-Russian)
        It is also clear that stealth is not all that is required. And if you stuff the Eagles with what you should (Powerful AESA radar, side grilles, add IR and Opt sensors KO, introduce hanging bomb compartments under the wing and between the turbines - I recently read about such a solution) there will be candy ..
        1. vadson
          vadson 14 July 2020 10: 10 New
          0
          at the price of f35 if not more laughing
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 14 July 2020 11: 41 New
            -3
            Only the combat value of the Fu-35 compared with this letak is several times lower.
        2. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 10 New
          +3
          F-15EX and so elegant modification, I think the bomb bay extra. Its scheme is good in that you can suspend oversized.
          Hypersonic missiles, anti-satellite missiles, etc.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 13 New
            +1
            I read that there is an idea to implement a container for storing TSA in flight. The external bomb bomb is a kind of stealth shape to the same. For storing there the URVV SD and MD than there is no solution.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 15 New
              0
              I do not think that this will greatly reduce noticeability, but it will definitely add mass.
          2. Tuzik
            Tuzik 14 July 2020 10: 13 New
            +1
            That and the number of ordinary delights 22 air-to-air missiles or 25 bombs
        3. VO3A
          VO3A 14 July 2020 12: 27 New
          +1
          My favorite modern yeroplan

          What about the F-14?
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 13: 53 New
            0
            Of our enemies, only the IGL. The tomket is a clumsy chumudan in comparison with him ...
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 July 2020 09: 06 New
    +3
    So all the same, the plane must be able to fly? I always admired the F-15 from the point of view of the LTX ... And here is the contract for 144 cars. I won’t even ask, what about the F-35? They are riveted and riveted ... or is it still a commercial project, but they were not supposed to fight on them?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 09 New
      +1
      F35 both produced and will be produced. Completely different classes of aircraft that are simply not comparable. F-15EX is an analogue of the Su-34.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 14 July 2020 09: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Grazdanin
        F35 both produced and will be produced. Completely different classes of aircraft that are simply not comparable. F-15EX is an analogue of the Su-34

        The classes are different. Fight on what? When you deliver thousands of Penguin-class fighters to the troops, and your fleet begins to replenish with heavy fighters - it is not clear, but what were these thousands for?
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 26 New
          0
          Fight on everything, for different wars and missions, various planes. F35, F15, F16 will exist together for 10-15 years for sure. But F22 is not clear what is needed now, so they won’t buy new ones, old ones will fly until they use up their resources.
          F35 is an excellent, successful aircraft. In terms of maneuverability, it is not inferior to F16, in all respects it surpasses it completely in others, so there is a huge queue for it. F35 replacement is F16, there is simply nothing to replace F15.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 09 New
            -2
            Quote: Grazdanin
            In terms of maneuverability, it is not inferior to F16, in all respects it surpasses it completely in others, so there is a huge queue for it.


            The queue for him is not why - Penguin is a miracle yes, but a miracle of marketing.
          2. vadson
            vadson 14 July 2020 10: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Grazdanin
            F35 is an excellent, successful aircraft.

            you made my day
          3. Foxmara
            Foxmara 14 July 2020 10: 57 New
            -1
            Quote: Grazdanin
            On maneuverability is not inferior to F16

            True?? And in a landfill battle, they lost 16th.
            Quote: Grazdanin
            therefore it is a huge queue

            I think the fact is that there are countries (people) that for political reasons cannot refuse.
            It is unlikely that anyone wants to buy an airplane, for the maintenance of which they will have to lay out space amounts annually. And his coolest feature - invisibility is obvious only to developers, but not for anti-aircraft gunners. All kinds of AFRs, etc., can be hung on the F-16 and it will come out no worse and cheaper. And without childhood diseases with software. May be..
            Quote: Grazdanin
            F35 excellent, successful aircraft

            For the one who sells it, I think yes. Although Trump screwed the valve, simply ordering to make it cheaper and did, where did he go before? laughing
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 14 July 2020 09: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Grazdanin
        F-15EX is an analogue of the Su-34.

        F-15 .. maximum take-off weight 30t. Su-34 ..- 45t ...
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 35 New
          +3
          The F-15EX has a maximum load of 13,4 tons, the SU-34 12,5 tons.
          1. 5-9
            5-9 14 July 2020 10: 53 New
            +3
            1. Americans measure it by the sum of the maximum load of all nodes, we - by the fact that it is really possible to hang at the same time.
            2. In real life, and there is no need to hang up and take off and fly with all this beauty, it is fraught with a glider, LTH fall to the baseboard and you probably will not take a full supply of internal fuel.
            3. Su-shek has a huge supply of domestic fuel, and the F-15 will have to pull a couple of tons in the PTB and they regularly do this in real life, that is, minus the payload.

            F-15E is more likely to be compared with the Su-30SM, the Su-34 is too much a bomber with + and - from this.
          2. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 13: 55 New
            0
            It wouldn’t have been armor; everything was simpler. Although life, on the other hand, shows that the armor is not superfluous, ask the Jews out there with the Syrians shot down by Suf ...
      3. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 July 2020 09: 21 New
        +7
        Only, in addition, a full fighter with a full, powerful AFAR
      4. PROXOR
        PROXOR 14 July 2020 11: 42 New
        0
        Che does not fit. A hornets u?
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 44 New
          0
          Yes, Hornets for debit to replace them Super Hornets and F35
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 14 July 2020 11: 45 New
            0
            You did not understand the question. Why do you need this modification of the FU-15 if there are Super Hornets.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 46 New
              +4
              Super Hornets are not in service with the Air Force, the capabilities of the F15 are higher than theirs.
  3. svp67
    svp67 14 July 2020 09: 13 New
    +1
    In the future, it is planned to purchase 18-24 fighters annually.
    And all carriers of hypersound ... powerful replenishment ... I wonder how many Israel will buy them?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 14 New
      -1
      They already have F15, they just upgrade.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 July 2020 09: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Grazdanin
        They already have them, they just upgrade.

        It is this modification? I don’t think ... But modernization is akin to buying a new plane, there are a lot of changes, it’s easier to get the old “Needles” and buy new ones
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 09: 27 New
          -2
          Naturally, modernization will be carried out by Israel, the United States will only help. True, if the resource is already exhausted, they can buy in return.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 10: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Grazdanin
        They already have F15, they just upgrade.

        Israel has a contract for the supply of 50 units of F-35. Until the issue of the next 25 units has been resolved, what will the F-15EX possibly buy since can carry heavier bomb loads such as the Rampage aeroballistic missile.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 32 New
          -2
          Instead of the old F15, no questions asked. Given how much they fly in Israel, wear should be extremely high.
          1. Zeev
            Zeev zeev 14 July 2020 10: 42 New
            +2
            Overhaul of F-15 Israeli industry produces itself. As well as the accident. Even if the wing of a plane is torn off (there was such a case, and a plane without a wing could land) in six months or a year it will be back in service.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 48 New
              -1
              Yes I know. It is impossible to extend the resource indefinitely. All the same, you need to update the planes.
          2. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 56 New
            -2
            Well yes .... It's funny. Needles Israel buys. And the Piguins give him as I recall. The answer is as if obvious.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 02 New
              +1
              They give him everything. Every year, 3 billion dollars is allocated, so they master it every year.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 14 July 2020 09: 22 New
      +1
      The Saudis overtook everyone and Qatar. They developed it for them, completed the contract and began to do it for themselves.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 July 2020 10: 21 New
      0
      "Israel wonders how much they will buy?" ////

      One squadron - 25 pieces. To replace our aging F-15.
      In time it will be like this: we get 50 F-35 (now in the presence of 22 pieces), then 25 F-15, then another 25 F-35. And an option for another 25 F-35.
      The composition of the updated Air Force: 100 F-35 and 50 F-15.
      F-16 write off.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 31 New
        +1
        Better send your military to this site, they just do not know that the F35 is worthless, super expensive, flies like an iron, visible on radars for 500 km. He's just a marketing divorce from the blind and deaf military of a dozen countries.
        1. Zeev
          Zeev zeev 14 July 2020 10: 39 New
          -2
          Our military for the most part do not know how to read Russian, like our aircraft engineers. Therefore, they simply modify the F-35 under Israeli realities and go on combat missions.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 45 New
            0
            no problem, there is an English version of the site. Everything is automatically translated there. https://en.topwar.ru/
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 11: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: ZeevZeev
            Our military, for the most part, cannot read Russian,

            But sometimes they come across
            1. Zeev
              Zeev zeev 14 July 2020 11: 19 New
              -1
              Sometimes found. One and a half generation, who lived in the former USSR at best in childhood. They usually don’t know how to read Russian, only speak through force.
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 12: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: ZeevZeev
                They usually don’t know how to read Russian, only speak through force.

                I have three grandchildren born in Israel, speak well, read more estate, write funny, and their friends speak funny. Our families always spoke Russian, although over time, grandchildren began to respond in Hebrew.
                1. Zeev
                  Zeev zeev 14 July 2020 13: 00 New
                  -1
                  My children speak Hebrew, and they know Russian insofar as to speak at a basic level with grandmothers. And about reading and writing, I don’t bother at all. Let first in Hebrew learn to write without errors in English.
                  1. Vitaly gusin
                    Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 13: 15 New
                    0
                    Quote: ZeevZeev
                    And about reading and writing, I don’t bother at all.

                    In this we did not hit finger on finger, possibly linguistic abilities.
                    Hebrew and English are at the level of the native language, the oldest is Spanish, and the younger is Arabic. We speak Russian, although for 30 years we have had no problems with Hebrew.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 10: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Better send your military to this site, they just do not know that the F35 is worthless, super expensive, flies like an iron, visible on radars for 500 km.

          This is a dream of many, that would have read, they all ran home laughing
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 12: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            This is a dream of many, that would have read, they all ran home

            Yes, and the one who installed MINUS as well.
      2. VO3A
        VO3A 14 July 2020 12: 35 New
        +2
        This is your speculation F-16 will not write off ... Given the capabilities and specialization of the F-35, their ratio to conventional aircraft 1: 3! You can't do that kind of math ...
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 12: 58 New
          0
          Of course they will write off, the question is when. About 10 years will definitely serve.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 July 2020 13: 10 New
          0
          Instead of 200 F-16 will be
          100 F-35.
          F-16 will leave.
  4. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 14 July 2020 09: 23 New
    +1
    An excellent and relevant aircraft so far, fashion set in the 70s for a hundred years
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 14 July 2020 09: 42 New
    -1
    It is specified that the F-15 is not purchased to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already obsolete fleet of F-15Cs in service and as a carrier of hypersonic weapons

    Ha ha ha. What should I say and not spoil the image of the F-35, pulled the explanation?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 July 2020 10: 25 New
      -1
      The procurement budget of F-35 is approved for many years to come. And the costs of the new F-35 Block are also approved by Congress.
      Purchases F-15 - additional. Due to the aging of the F-15, which are in service and the reduction in the number of F-22 in the system.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 51 New
        -3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Due to the aging of the F-15, which are in service and the reduction in the number of F-22 in the system.


        Julia deign, as it were in a hot pan. If the Penguin were so beautiful gentlemen from across the ocean without batting an eye, they would simply retrain the squadrons of the Penguin and deal with the end. Since the Penguin is precisely conceived as a universal IFI to replace all fighters and attack aircraft in the US Air Force and Navy. As a result, they come up with explanations for very suckers. But some people believe in it for something.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 July 2020 10: 57 New
          -1
          Do you speak English? smile
          Full quote:
          Three variants of the F-35 will replace the A-10 and F-16 for the US Air Force, the F / A-18 for the US Navy, the F / A-18 and AV-8B Harrier for the US Marine Corps , and a variety of fighters for at least ten other countries.
          This list is not and never was F-15.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 11: 02 New
            0
            Your quote dates from about 1999-2002. Since that time, something went wrong. In particular, the F-22 did not come out as it was supposed to ...
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 14 July 2020 11: 05 New
              -1
              In any case, and in any years, NEVER the replacement of the F-15 with the F-35 was NEVER considered.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 11: 06 New
                0
                The fact that the situation in the United States with the F-22 has changed you prefer not to notice?
          2. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 03 New
            0
            For info Super Hornets are also not on the replacement list.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 14 July 2020 11: 12 New
              +1
              The F-35S program for the fleet is the most lagging of the three. They got the latest combat readiness. And while there are only two F-35S training squadrons on two aircraft carriers. Super Hornets will replace aging Hornets. On each aircraft carrier, it is planned to have 2/3 SuperKhornetov and 1/3 F-35S. Then, on the contrary: 1/3 to 2/3.
              In the exercises, these two types worked perfectly together in different positions.
        2. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          without blinking an eye, we would simply retrain the squadron of Penguin and deal with the end.

          Physically not possible. Only the Air Force has 1500-2000 fighters. Without the Navy, ILC and other troops. The industry will not have time to release such an amount of F35 in a short time, you still need to retrain pilots and personnel, update the infrastructure. Yes, a large number of F35 are exported.
          The rearmament of about 10 years will definitely take, especially nowhere to rush.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 11: 04 New
            0
            Well, not so late now.
      2. Liam
        Liam 14 July 2020 11: 01 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Purchasing F-15

        Rather, they are purchased under new overall missiles that do not fit into the F-35 / F-22 bomb bay
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 July 2020 11: 08 New
          0
          Israel is buying for this. To drag concrete bombs and large CDs on external suspensions.
          There are no bombers in Israel, F-15 instead.
          1. Liam
            Liam 14 July 2020 11: 20 New
            -1
            Exactly. They are bought just like drummers. They aren’t particularly needed in the fighter version. There will be enough stock for the F-22/35. 20 hypothetical BB-missiles are unlikely to be needed. Potential adversaries do not have particularly fat herds of aircraft.
            And as carriers of particularly powerful / long-range air / surface missiles, so as not to cling to external stealth suspensions
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 22 New
              +2
              Israel needs nuclear weapons, the F15 is perfect.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 14 July 2020 11: 33 New
                -1
                The F-35 is even better. Glows less on radars.
                1. Grazdanin
                  Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 39 New
                  +1
                  The range is less. With additional tanks, the F-15 range is comparable to the Tu-22M.
                2. VO3A
                  VO3A 14 July 2020 12: 57 New
                  0
                  And what, do you have a bomb in the form of nuclear weapons intermeddle in the bomb bay F35?
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 14 July 2020 13: 27 New
                    -1
                    The Americans fit quietly.
                    We don’t know, but why not copy the American one?
  6. Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 July 2020 09: 51 New
    -1
    An analogue of the Su-30 or Su-34.
  7. KOLORADO73
    KOLORADO73 14 July 2020 10: 05 New
    -1
    The F-15 was designed in the 60s, and made its first flight in 1972! Fifty years this car! Yes, the era of stealth, smart rockets, network-centric wars and other tinsel has quickly ended! Junk from the Cold War still dominates in 2020, the Pentagon will not lie!

    Z.Y. Someone close already NATO in 2020!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 July 2020 10: 26 New
      -2
      "Yes, the era of stealth, smart rockets, network-centric wars and other tinsel has quickly ended!" ///
      ----
      This era is just beginning ...
    2. Freemason Mason
      Freemason Mason 14 July 2020 11: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: KOLORADO73
      Yes, the era of stealth, smart rockets, network-centric wars and other tinsel has quickly ended! Junk from the Cold War still dominates in 2020, the Pentagon will not lie!

      That is, the Su-57 was developed in vain? It is necessary that the Defense Ministry certainly familiarize themselves with the conclusions made by you, otherwise they, poor ones, continue to waste money on the development of these very stealth, smart missiles and "other tinsel." laughing
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 14 July 2020 12: 43 New
      0
      Quote: KOLORADO73
      The F-15 was designed in the 60s, and made its first flight in 1972!

      This is approximately accurate.
      The latest F-15I was received in 1999.
      At the beginning, the aircraft’s ammunition was calculated as thirty-six Rockeye cluster bombs or six Maverick air-to-ground missiles. Today the F-15I ammunition kit has been expanded to include Paveway laser-guided bombs, JDAM satellite-guided bombs, BLU-109 bunker-buster bombs, SPICE precision bombs and AGM-88 HARM anti-radar bombs .
      So today he is more alive than all living things.
      But of course, we must think about tomorrow.
    4. 3danimal
      3danimal 15 July 2020 16: 34 New
      -1
      Someone close already NATO in 2020!

      Too easy. Do something for this if it matters to you smile
  8. Avior
    Avior 14 July 2020 10: 11 New
    +1
    With f-22 we got a strange situation
    It was made as a fighter for gaining air supremacy in a f-35 combination, but the USSR ceased, China had not yet taken place as a military superpower, and now it has a very limited range of tasks.
    New modifications also make no sense, expensive, f-35 does not close some tasks, you need a heavy one.
    So the release of f-15 is a logical output
    Good plane
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 10: 19 New
      -1
      Yeah, F22 just has no tasks, F15 has no replacement. With the F35 and F15, a great pair. To gain dominance in the air and overcome air defense, the concept of UAVs accompanying for the F35 is more interesting and promising.
      1. Avior
        Avior 14 July 2020 10: 22 New
        0
        F-22 is an excellent aircraft for its tasks. And if it got development, it would get modifications and replace f-15
        Only it is expensive and there is no need for it now, those that are available, real needs close
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik 14 July 2020 10: 32 New
          0
          Plus it can’t be sold
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 July 2020 10: 30 New
      +3
      The new F-15s are not for air combat.
      This is a heavy "shooter" with 28 long-range explosives.
      Dominance in the air will be won by the F-22, suppress air defense and direct the F-15 and their missiles at the target will be F-35.
    3. 5-9
      5-9 14 July 2020 10: 57 New
      -1
      He was made as a fighter for gaining air supremacy in a bunch of f-35s, but the USSR stopped

      Therefore, they were made only 180 pieces ... and the Russian Federation was resurrected, and no one expected this from China at all in those days, and it rivets the pseudo-fifth and will be the farther, the more .... and the F-22 will no longer one new .... this is a strategic miss, the superiority of a fighter of gaining domination will be either lost or quantitative (F-22) in 10-15 years ... and the Penguin is a very so-so air fighter
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 31 New
        +2
        After 10-15, US planes will not enter the battle. UAV will carry out dangerous work. F35, as an aircraft for escorting UAVs of the XQ-58 type, is excellent. Quantitative and qualitative superiority will be on their side.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 14 July 2020 15: 09 New
          0
          What nonsense ... all enemies will be destroyed on Twitter.
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 July 2020 16: 43 New
        -1
        The Union, with its army, capabilities and goals (the victory of world communism) has not risen, this is the main thing in this case.
        Reasoning about a bad air fighter - where is the reason for them? Bad in comparison with whom (with Mig-31)? What distance?
        When there will be the first military clashes, then it will be possible to draw conclusions.
  9. 5-9
    5-9 14 July 2020 10: 49 New
    0
    It is specified that the F-15 is not purchased to replace the F-35A, but to replace the already obsolete fleet of F-15Cs

    And when they invented the Penguin, they also planned it like that, eh? Or now everything will be written off to non-existent hypersonic? By the way, what prevents him from carrying around the Penguin?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 16 New
      +1
      Yes, it was planned. F-22, F-15, FA-18E / F were not included in the replacement program for F35.
  10. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 14 July 2020 10: 51 New
    -6
    F-15 for its time was not a bad aircraft, but today it is unfortunately outdated. The glider corresponds to the realities of the 80s of the last century. Our Su-27,30,34,35 and MiG-29,35 surpass it in these parameters by two heads.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 11: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      F-15 for its time was not a bad aircraft, but today it is unfortunately outdated. The glider corresponds to the realities of the 80s of the last century.


      Don’t need ah ?! Good glider there. Great even. And today too.
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 14 July 2020 11: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      Our Su-27,30,34,35 and MiG-29,35 surpass it in these parameters by two heads.

      There is no superiority even on the floor of the head. The MiG is not even nearby, the extremely unsuccessful 29ok series. Su-27 and its descendants are good, comparable to F15, in some parameters it’s better, in others it’s worse, in general parity.
      1. Charik
        Charik 14 July 2020 11: 41 New
        -3
        http://alternathistory.com/ispytano-v-ssha-i-rossii-uchebnye-vozdushnye-boi-su-27-ub-protiv-f-15d-v-lengli/-миньет от Ф15 для Су27
  11. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 10: 57 New
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The new F-15s are not for air combat.
    This is a heavy "shooter" with 28 long-range explosives.
    Dominance in the air will be won by the F-22, suppress air defense and direct the F-15 and their missiles at the target will be F-35.


    Are you not trying to think in principle? Only newspaper stamps set out?
  12. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 14 July 2020 11: 07 New
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    Quote: Grazdanin
    For info Super Hornets are also not on the replacement list.


    They are being released now. Will serve no less than the F-35. What is there to think?
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 July 2020 16: 21 New
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    1,2 yards for 8 fighters ... Along the way, even the "penguin" nervously smokes in the outhouse on the size of the kickbacks.