EU supports proposal from Germany to impose sanctions against Russia for cyber attack

The European Union supported the proposal of Germany to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, but a final decision has not yet been made. This was stated by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany Rainer Brogl.

According to Broglie, the German proposal for anti-Russian sanctions met with widespread support in the EU, but negotiations on the launch of the procedure and the list of persons are still ongoing, the interim results of these negotiations were refused to be named in Germany.

We filed this request with EU members. We have received widespread support.

Brogl said, adding that a circle of individuals is currently being discussed who are expected to be included in the sanctions list.

Recall that the German government proposed the EU to impose sanctions against Russia for the 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, allegedly carried out by the “Russian military intelligence service of the GRU”.

The possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of the German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded, and which Russia is accused of, was reported at the end of May this year. On May 28, 2020, the Russian ambassador in Berlin, Sergei Nechaev, was called up to the German Foreign Ministry, where he was warned of the possible imposition of restrictions on cyber attacks.

Meanwhile, Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

Comments

[Kronos]

Well let the bourgeoisie not sorry

[SRC P-15]

About the possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded, and of which Russia is accused

It’s quite German: they listened to Merkel of the USA, and sanctions are imposed against Russia.
In this case, if Russia carried out a cyber attack, then the United States should punish Merkel! Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?

[mitroha]

We filed this request with EU members. We have received widespread support.

Who else considers this expression unnatural and debility in meaning?

[orionvitt]

In the sense, everything is in order. There is another far-fetched reason (they are all such, unproven) to impose another package of sanctions on Russia. Of course, in Brussels they will not refuse such happiness. That's just very much like a provocation from pro-American politicians in the German Foreign Ministry .. I doubt that all of Germany is for.

[aglet]

"There is another far-fetched reason (they are all such, unsubstantiated)"
and what, "hiklelicle" is no longer canal?

[orionvitt]

So this is "highliklikli", I just use the Russian language.

[mitroha]

And what is normal in terms of meaning?
Pro-American politicians in Germany .. Where is normal here?
Pro-American politicians anywhere except the US are NOT normal

[orionvitt]

Quote: Mitroha

Pro-American politicians anywhere except the US are NOT normal

I agree, but this is an objective reality, which should not be surprised. Something needs to be done with this - yes, wondering - no.

[Igoresha]

Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?

there will be something to ask Russia Tuday correspondent at a press conference

[Rurikovich]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?

Who dances a girl, he uses it ...
Estessna, when Uncle Sam slams on the upper back of Aunt Angela's hips, she will always point to Russia in a fit of service to the master, even if she is absolutely not involved in anything
The Paradoxes of Western Democracy

[primala]

Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?
===============
the gynecologist knows)))

[Civil]

Quote: Kronos

Well let the bourgeoisie not sorry

Yes, but the losses will be attributed to ordinary citizens ... however, we are not used to it, the enemy’s ring is narrowing, we must tighten our belts and support United Russia ... they’re trying for everyone

[parusnik]

The European Union supported the proposal of Germany to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, but a final decision has not yet been made. This was stated by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany Rainer Brogl.

... Nonsense is a question, if individual citizens are concerned .. They will survive ..

[Aag]

"Nonsense question, if individual citizens are concerned .. they will survive .."
In general, I agree, but! There is no word "individual" in the article.
Apparently, it will turn out like with Deripaska: nishtyaki are mine, lyuli, are general ...

[Woodman]

The European Union supported the German proposal to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag,

And in the 45th, the Russians took Berlin ... And under Elizabeth Petrovna in the 18th century, too ... Well, how many more reasons for sanctions ...

[A good one]

Then it would be nice to show them how this "attack" will look like in reality, let them buy tickets and take seats according to the indicated numbering.

[Livonetc]

And the fact that the mattresses thoroughly listened to the Key is normal.
Show it all.
Smoke cover for Germany’s real and inevitable dependence on business with Russia.

[askort154]

But what did not impose sanctions against the United States when the whole world found out about wiretapping Merkel by the US NSA service ?! Then she rushed to the United States like a lioness, ready to tear everyone there, but returned quickly, like a battered lapdog, and no one else raised this topic in Germany.

[Charik]

so the Americans listened to it for its own safety and the evil Russians can publish it later on the Internet or watch it and blackmail it with a pipe will start

[Freedim]

Something they did not strongly sanction against the United States when the NSA (NSA) around the clock listened to the entire German government, the Bundestag, the Bundeswehr and other management structures ... and this was completely proved.

[Prisoner]

And the NSA did not impose sanctions, although the grandmother was tracked during the day from bed to bed. I suspect that in bed too (poor specialists). Judging by the words of Broglie there it seems not so cloudless as this respected herr wants to show.

[Whirlwind]

This 4th Reich takes revenge for the attack on the Reichstag in 1945, hiding behind the alleged GRU cyber attack in 2015. to the Bundestag ...

[Victorio]

former friends and neighbors in the socialist camp were the first to raise their hands in the ballot

[Kibl]

Everything is fine, if they are going to impose sanctions, then one of two things, or they lost their minds or the pandemic waned. Although ..... Rather, the first, the mind has not been around for a long time and it wasn’t particularly.

[evgen1221]

Well, given the case of Rodchenko, I won’t be surprised that someone just leaked the information about the GRU’s work and the Americans tactfully organized a setup (if the attack really was of course), if not, then again very long ears, you know who.

[Nikolai Petrov]

And how "scary" we are! Already kaput

[Reserve buildbat]

It seems that another regular donkey with a little gold came to Berlin. After all, recently they shouted there that sanctions against Russia should be lifted, since they are not beneficial to the geyropa. And here it’s just like that ... Quite the contrary ...

[Charik]

there were only members around

[sl3]

Something no one blundered when partners from the United States listened to almost all the leaders from the European Union. And where are the sanctions gentlemen Europeans? The gut is probably thin. Yes, and how you can trample against your master.

[Sklendarka]

Or maybe I should file with the Court against "gans" that in 1941 grandmother's house was bombed?

[Sklendarka]

And for the harm that they inflicted on flora and fauna, they walked through swamps, killed innocent frogs, and then ate them. My mother told me

[APASUS]

Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

In the modern world, the culprit is appointed!

[Aag]

Quote: APASUS

Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

In the modern world, the culprit is appointed!

Prescribe the strong. Or, at least, know how to portray it.

[APASUS]

Quote: AAG

Prescribe the strong. Or, at least, know how to portray it.

Prescribe the weak! Because they cannot prove guilt and there are not enough arguments, they simply act on the principle of a pack of dogs

[prodi]

Yes, in general do not care, automatically assign one name in your black list more

[Senka naughty]

Recall that the German government proposed the EU to impose sanctions against Russia for the 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, allegedly carried out by the “Russian military intelligence service of the GRU”.

About the possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded. During the investigation, the special services of the GDR came to the suspects. They turned out to be two GRU officers. One of them is Dmitry Badin, codename "Scaramush", at the moment the name of the second is being established.

"Scaramush"

Also, information appeared on the network that the GRU officers managed to "merge" into the network data on the correspondence of Chancellor Merkel with statesmen of some countries. The nature of some of them is quite compromising in nature:

[bar]

neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

Who needs this evidence?

German proposal for anti-Russian sanctions is widely supported in the EU

... and without any evidence.
We are waiting for the next sanctions for the genocide of goldfish

[yfast]

and without any evidence.

We can’t prove anything. Well, by their standards, for sure. But where did the concrete faces come from, is it incompetence or self-confidence?

[cat Rusich]

I propose, in response to the sanctions proposed by Frau Merkel, not to buy cars of German brands (BMW, Mercedes, Opel, Volkswagen, MAN, Audi). Beat the "bourgeoisie of Germany "for money ...

[Taras mp]

Hmm, they swallowed even licked their lips at the chancellor’s anb, the ministries and citizens of the US special services, but here you can take it without facts, clearly whose hand is sticking out of this doll toy in one place.

[opuonmed]

RF kick as he wants)

[shinobi]

Well, they shut up the EPT. Now these sanctions will try to knock out under SP-2. Even if you look to the side, you can see the long ears of Uncle Sam. He understands that the German business did not care about his sanctions.
PS: In general, this is the most fierce nightmare of the USA, the axis of Berlin-Moscow-Beijing. Moreover, part of the axis already exists, it’s small.

[Incompetent]

And what was so interesting about Angela Merkel’s downloaded correspondence, please remind

[Cananecat]

Quote: opuonmed

RF kick as he wants)

Trying ... but for some reason they fall in the neighbors. )))

[avdkrd]

Already such news does not even surprise. It is time for our Foreign Ministry to react more aggressively to unproven attacks. Arguments in the style of expressing concern and other husks do not work. Wasn't that experience yet? Maybe it is to the detriment of the level of relations in the urgent and medium term perspective that it is possible to respond to such attempts as harshly as possible? For example, counter sanctions can be introduced indefinitely without automatic cancellation and a complex cancellation mechanism. In this regard, we need to learn from amers. Again, use the most vulnerable points. They are very painful. It is not a fact that, in its current form, our state is able to react in this way, since momentary (private) commercial interests are put above state ones. There is no political planning, Russia only responds to the agenda, but does not create it. It's a pity.

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Mb Germans wanted additional preferences, such as discounts in gas prices? The launch of SP-2 is just around the corner, so a new bargaining object has been sucked from the finger. Say, give us a discount, and we will withdraw the proposal for sanctions.

[iouris]

And you look broader at this question: they want for free and on a silver platter.

[Sergey M. Karasev]

they want for free and on a silver platter.

To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want.