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EU supports proposal from Germany to impose sanctions against Russia for cyber attack

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EU supports proposal from Germany to impose sanctions against Russia for cyber attack

The European Union supported the proposal of Germany to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, but a final decision has not yet been made. This was stated by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany Rainer Brogl.


According to Broglie, the German proposal for anti-Russian sanctions met with widespread support in the EU, but negotiations on the launch of the procedure and the list of persons are still ongoing, the interim results of these negotiations were refused to be named in Germany.

We filed this request with EU members. We have received widespread support.

Brogl said, adding that a circle of individuals is currently being discussed who are expected to be included in the sanctions list.

Recall that the German government proposed the EU to impose sanctions against Russia for the 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, allegedly carried out by the “Russian military intelligence service of the GRU”.

The possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of the German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded, and which Russia is accused of, was reported at the end of May this year. On May 28, 2020, the Russian ambassador in Berlin, Sergei Nechaev, was called up to the German Foreign Ministry, where he was warned of the possible imposition of restrictions on cyber attacks.

Meanwhile, Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.
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  1. Kronos
    Kronos 13 July 2020 15: 45 New
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    Well let the bourgeoisie not sorry
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 13 July 2020 16: 10 New
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      About the possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded, and of which Russia is accused

      It’s quite German: they listened to Merkel of the USA, and sanctions are imposed against Russia.
      In this case, if Russia carried out a cyber attack, then the United States should punish Merkel! Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 13 July 2020 16: 19 New
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        We filed this request with EU members. We have received widespread support.

        Who else considers this expression unnatural and debility in meaning?
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 13 July 2020 18: 24 New
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          In the sense, everything is in order. There is another far-fetched reason (they are all such, unproven) to impose another package of sanctions on Russia. Of course, in Brussels they will not refuse such happiness. That's just very much like a provocation from pro-American politicians in the German Foreign Ministry .. I doubt that all of Germany is for.
          1. aglet
            aglet 13 July 2020 19: 14 New
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            "There is another contrived reason (they are all such, unproven)"
            and what, "highkilaylikli" no longer channel?
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 13 July 2020 19: 36 New
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              So this is the "highkileilikli", I just express myself in Russian.
          2. Mitroha
            Mitroha 13 July 2020 21: 03 New
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            And what is normal in terms of meaning?
            Pro-American politicians in Germany .. Where is normal here?
            Pro-American politicians anywhere except the US are NOT normal
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 13 July 2020 21: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: Mitroha
              Pro-American politicians anywhere except the US are NOT normal

              I agree, but this is an objective reality, which should not be surprised. Something needs to be done with this - yes, wondering - no.
      2. Igoresha
        Igoresha 13 July 2020 17: 32 New
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        Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?
        there will be something to ask Russia Tuday correspondent at a press conference
      3. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 13 July 2020 19: 51 New
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        Quote: SRC P-15
        Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?

        Who dances a girl, he uses it what .
        Estessna, when Uncle Sam slams on the upper back of Aunt Angela's hips, she will always point to Russia in a fit of service to the master, even if she is absolutely not involved in anything fool
        The Paradoxes of Western Democracy request lol
      4. primaala
        primaala 13 July 2020 22: 35 New
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        Where is the logic, Mrs. Merkel?
        ===============
        the gynecologist knows)))
    2. Civil
      Civil 13 July 2020 17: 04 New
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      Quote: Kronos
      Well let the bourgeoisie not sorry

      Yes, but the losses will be attributed to ordinary citizens ... however, we are not used to it, the enemy’s ring is narrowing, we must tighten our belts and support United Russia ... they’re trying for everyone
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 13 July 2020 15: 46 New
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    The European Union supported the proposal of Germany to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, but a final decision has not yet been made. This was stated by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany Rainer Brogl.
    ... Nonsense is a question, if individual citizens are concerned .. They will survive .. smile
    1. Aag
      Aag 13 July 2020 18: 07 New
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      ". Nonsense is a question, if individual citizens are concerned .. They will survive .."
      In general, I agree. But! The article does not have the word "individual."
      Apparently, it will turn out like with Deripaska: nishtyaki are mine, lyuli, are general ...
  3. Woodman
    Woodman 13 July 2020 15: 47 New
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    The European Union supported the German proposal to impose sanctions against Russian citizens for the allegedly carried out in 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag,
    And in the 45th, the Russians took Berlin ... And under Elizabeth Petrovna in the 18th century, too ... Well, how many more reasons for sanctions ...
  4. A good one
    A good one 13 July 2020 15: 54 New
    +3
    Then it’s nice to show them how this “attack” will actually look like, let them buy tickets and take places, according to the indicated numbering. yes
  5. Livonetc
    Livonetc 13 July 2020 15: 58 New
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    And the fact that the mattresses thoroughly listened to the Key is normal.
    Show it all.
    Smoke cover for Germany’s real and inevitable dependence on business with Russia.
  6. askort154
    askort154 13 July 2020 16: 00 New
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    But what did not impose sanctions against the United States when the whole world found out about wiretapping Merkel by the US NSA service ?! Then she rushed to the United States like a lioness, ready to tear everyone there, but returned quickly, like a battered lapdog, and no one else raised this topic in Germany.
    1. Charik
      Charik 13 July 2020 16: 47 New
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      so the Americans listened to it for its own safety and the evil Russians can publish it later on the Internet or watch it and blackmail it with a pipe laughing will start
  7. Freedim
    Freedim 13 July 2020 16: 00 New
    +7
    Something they did not strongly sanction against the United States when the NSA (NSA) around the clock listened to the entire German government, the Bundestag, the Bundeswehr and other management structures ... and this was completely proved.
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 July 2020 16: 09 New
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    And the NSA did not impose sanctions, although the grandmother was tracked during the day from bed to bed. I suspect that in bed too (poor specialists). laughing Judging by the words of Broglie there it seems not so cloudless as this respected herr wants to show.
  9. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 13 July 2020 16: 10 New
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    This 4th Reich takes revenge for the attack on the Reichstag in 1945, hiding behind the alleged GRU cyber attack in 2015. to the Bundestag ...
  10. Victorio
    Victorio 13 July 2020 16: 11 New
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    former friends and neighbors in the socialist camp were the first to raise their hands in the ballot
  11. Kibl
    Kibl 13 July 2020 16: 16 New
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    Everything is fine, if they are going to impose sanctions, then one of two things, or they lost their minds or the pandemic waned. Although ..... Rather, the first, the mind has not been around for a long time and it wasn’t particularly.
  12. evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 July 2020 16: 27 New
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    Well, given the case of Rodchenko, I won’t be surprised that someone just leaked the information about the GRU’s work and the Americans tactfully organized a setup (if the attack really was of course), if not, then again very long ears, you know who.
  13. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 13 July 2020 16: 31 New
    -1
    And how scary we are! Already kaput
  14. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 July 2020 16: 36 New
    +1
    It seems that another regular donkey with a little gold came to Berlin. After all, recently they shouted there that sanctions against Russia should be lifted, since they are not beneficial to the geyropa. And here it’s just like that ... Quite the contrary ...
  15. Charik
    Charik 13 July 2020 16: 43 New
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    there were only members around laughing laughing
  16. sl3
    sl3 13 July 2020 16: 47 New
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    Something no one blundered when partners from the United States listened to almost all the leaders from the European Union. And where are the sanctions gentlemen Europeans? The gut is probably thin. Yes, and how you can trample against your master.
  17. Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 13 July 2020 16: 47 New
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    Or maybe I should file a “chance” with the Court that my grandmother’s house was bombed in 1941?
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 13 July 2020 16: 51 New
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      And for the harm that they inflicted on flora and fauna, they walked through swamps, killed innocent frogs, and then ate them. My mother told me
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 13 July 2020 16: 49 New
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    Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

    In the modern world, the culprit is appointed!
    1. Aag
      Aag 13 July 2020 18: 14 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      Moscow categorically rejects suspicions of involvement in this and other cyber attacks, since neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

      In the modern world, the culprit is appointed!

      Prescribe the strong. Or, at least, know how to portray it.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 July 2020 09: 25 New
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        Quote: AAG
        Prescribe the strong. Or, at least, know how to portray it.

        Prescribe the weak! Because they cannot prove guilt and there are not enough arguments, they simply act on the principle of a pack of dogs
  19. prodi
    prodi 13 July 2020 17: 57 New
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    Yes, in general do not care, automatically assign one name in your black list more
  20. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 13 July 2020 17: 58 New
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    Recall that the German government proposed the EU to impose sanctions against Russia for the 2015 cyber attack on the Bundestag, allegedly carried out by the “Russian military intelligence service of the GRU”.

    About the possibility of imposing sanctions for a cyber attack, during which the correspondence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel was downloaded. During the investigation, the special services of the GDR came to the suspects. They turned out to be two GRU officers. One of them is Dmitry Badin, codename "Scaramush", at the moment the name of the second is being established.

    "Scaramush"

    Also, information appeared on the network that GRU officers had time to "merge" into the network data on the correspondence of Chancellor Merkel with government officials in some countries. The nature of some of them has a rather compromising character:













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  21. bar
    bar 13 July 2020 19: 11 New
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    neither in this nor in other cases was evidence of Russia's involvement presented.

    Who needs this evidence?
    German proposal for anti-Russian sanctions is widely supported in the EU
    ... and without any evidence.
    We are waiting for the next sanctions for the genocide of goldfish
  22. yfast
    yfast 13 July 2020 19: 17 New
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    and without any evidence.

    We can’t prove anything. Well, by their standards, for sure. But where did the concrete faces come from, is it incompetence or self-confidence?
  23. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 13 July 2020 20: 57 New
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    In response to the sanctions, I suggest that Frau Merkel not buy German cars (BMW, Mercedes, Opel, Volkswagen, MAN, Audi). Beat the "bourgeois of Germany bully "by mosh ... belay
  24. Taras mp
    Taras mp 13 July 2020 21: 04 New
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    Hmm, they swallowed even licked their lips at the chancellor’s anb, the ministries and citizens of the US special services, but here you can take it without facts, clearly whose hand is sticking out of this doll toy in one place.
  25. opuonmed
    opuonmed 13 July 2020 21: 20 New
    -1
    RF kick as he wants)
  26. shinobi
    shinobi 13 July 2020 21: 49 New
    +1
    Well, they shut up the EPT. Now these sanctions will try to knock out under SP-2. Even if you look to the side, you can see the long ears of Uncle Sam. He understands that the German business did not care about his sanctions.
    PS: In general, this is the most fierce nightmare of the USA, the axis of Berlin-Moscow-Beijing. Moreover, part of the axis already exists, it’s small.
  27. Incompetent
    Incompetent 13 July 2020 22: 50 New
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    And what was so interesting about Angela Merkel’s downloaded correspondence, please remind
  28. Cananecat
    Cananecat 13 July 2020 23: 06 New
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    Quote: opuonmed
    RF kick as he wants)

    Trying ... but for some reason they fall in the neighbors. )))
  29. avdkrd
    avdkrd 13 July 2020 23: 41 New
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    Already such news does not even surprise. It is time for our Foreign Ministry to react more aggressively to unproven attacks. Arguments in the style of expressing concern and other husks do not work. Wasn't that experience yet? Maybe it is to the detriment of the level of relations in the urgent and medium term perspective that it is possible to respond to such attempts as harshly as possible? For example, counter sanctions can be introduced indefinitely without automatic cancellation and a complex cancellation mechanism. In this regard, we need to learn from amers. Again, use the most vulnerable points. They are very painful. It is not a fact that, in its current form, our state is able to react in this way, since momentary (private) commercial interests are put above state ones. There is no political planning, Russia only responds to the agenda, but does not create it. It's a pity.
  30. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 14 July 2020 02: 43 New
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    Mb Germans wanted additional preferences, such as discounts in gas prices? The launch of SP-2 is just around the corner, so a new bargaining object has been sucked from the finger. Say, give us a discount, and we will withdraw the proposal for sanctions.
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 July 2020 11: 26 New
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      And you look broader at this question: they want for free and on a silver platter.
      1. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 14 July 2020 15: 26 New
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        they want for free and on a silver platter.

        To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. laughing