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Sergey Markov: Khabarovsk protest was very unexpected for everyone

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Khabarovsk protest was a real explosion of popular indignation. It began spontaneously.


Such an opinion was expressed by the famous Russian political scientist Sergey Markov on his Facebook page.

The expert calls the protest in the Far East a real all-Russian sensation. Khabarovsk residents spontaneously took to the streets in protest against the arrest of their governor Sergei Furgal. Of course, people from his team were involved in organizing the action, but the residents of Khabarovsk supported it sincerely.

But when "professional revolutionaries" from the Navalny and Khodorkovsky camps joined him at the end of the event and tried to send a protest in the anti-Putin direction they needed, the people did not follow them.

Markov believes that the protests in Khabarovsk have ended, because "the Khabarovsk residents are no longer participating in it." And if there is information to the contrary, it will only be an imitation of protest artificially heated by the media. According to Markov, local residents have claims to the current government, but they are against the organization of the “Khabarovsk Maidan":

The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 13 July 2020 15: 37
    17
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

    Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..
    1. Vend
      Vend 13 July 2020 15: 40
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

      Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

      It happens, but not everyone believes laughing
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 13 July 2020 16: 27
        -7
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Svarog
        The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

        Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

        It happens, but not everyone believes laughing

        The opinion of readers of VO on this is very different, as expressed in the estimates .....
        Interesting ... Tomorrow I will look again wink
        That is, you can’t be strongly FOR RUSSIA, judging by the minuses .... Interesting on a Russian-language site ...
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 14 July 2020 05: 12
          +2
          Well, judging by the number of my drawbacks, the liberda still rules in the country, but this is not in the upper echelons of power: they still adhere to the rule "not a day without arrest, not a single arrest without charge." However, the literacy of the sequence is respected: first, they neutralize the old bison (first, Ishaev was taken into circulation so that he would not rock the boat (or maybe not to join with protests), and then they took young wolves of the "fresh bottling", who have not yet been imbued with the spirit of solidarity.
          What is characteristic is that they are taken immediately by whole collectives: look at Bykov in Krasnoyarsk - he (both in company with the Black brothers and separately) tried in the mid-90s (a quarter of a century has passed !!) to take over both hydropower in Eastern Siberia and aluminum raw materials - it did not work, despite the frank criminalism of methods, but the affairs of the past years were not forgotten, rather, on the contrary, they were filled with materials ...
          They took him the other day - and immediately to M-woo, the fate of the "fellow students" is unknown ...
          I think we still have to watch such scenarios and look ...
          But note, the beginning of the arrest campaign two months ago was soft and almost asking: Well, Potanin put a dozen lardy wooden with this kind of diesel fuel (but it wasn’t the color of diesel fuel ...) - because they only threatened with a finger. Then, in a very quiet way, Greenpeace ecologists flew in there (why would they let them into the border zone?) And found out a few more leaks of mine water waste into the tundra - and SUDDENLY last week, but in a slightly different place (but at the Norilsk Nickel farm! !) the pipe with diesel fuel broke again, again 45 tons of hydrocarbons were lowered into the water management facility! But when such accidents, as it were, are so crowded, you will inevitably think of evil rock dominating Potanin’s property right ...
          Do you think Potanin will get away with it again?
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 13 July 2020 16: 30
        +5
        It happens, but not everyone believes

        I wonder how many people have understood the Mystery of the Third Planet reference?
        1. Vend
          Vend 14 July 2020 09: 35
          0
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          It happens, but not everyone believes

          I wonder how many people have understood the Mystery of the Third Planet reference?

          The point is not what cartoon this phrase is from, but its genius. This phrase has long gone to the people.
      3. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 13 July 2020 23: 38
        -16 qualifying.
        Furgal is a Negro addict George Floyd, adjusted for Russian realities. On your knees ... Like, a new motto was even invented "Guber-killers-corruption-eros-banditos-gansteritos-chubaisos life mater ... wassat by analogy Litter Matter Niger ...
        I give ... Do not thank ... wink
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 14 July 2020 01: 04
          -10 qualifying.
          And I’ll add one more imperishable to you ...
          "Zhurnalyugaz-terraryugaz life's mater ..."
          "Pskov journalist Svetlana Prokopyeva, convicted in Russia on charges of justifying terrorism, won the 2020 International Press Freedom Prize. The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) announced this on its website ..."
          Do not give thanks ... wassat
          1. Li17
            Li17 15 July 2020 05: 53
            -1
            Ruslan, judging by the minuses, you closed up on the pain points "ours" under the rainbow flag! Congratulations, good shooting!
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 15 July 2020 09: 17
              -4
              Even the marsh in 2011 showed that the place of the "rainbow" protesters is near the bucket ... Well, or under the box ...
              1. zwlad
                zwlad 16 July 2020 08: 48
                +1
                Judging by the minuses on VO at least 5 rainbow
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 15 July 2020 06: 20
            0
            Quote: Tank jacket
            And I’ll add one more imperishable to you ...

            Yeah, Markov is a rare muck.
            In 1993, he completed an internship at the University of Wisconsin - Madison (USA).
            1994-1997 - Researcher at the Carnegie Endowment Moscow Center.
    2. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 13 July 2020 15: 41
      0
      Another break in the pattern among activists of the struggle.
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 13 July 2020 15: 50
      +7
      Quote: Svarog
      Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

      You sincerely hoped, finally! - numerous and lengthy protests? Again the wrong people? Or again intimidated?
    4. parusnik
      parusnik 13 July 2020 15: 52
      36
      Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

      It happened on January 9, 1905 ... They didn’t go against the tsar, seek the truth from the tsar ... And in Khabarovsk, too, the same thing .. It’s possible to dig deeper, the 17th century, of the salt, copper riots, the identity began with what the truth was sought, yes asked the bad boyars to reason ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 13 July 2020 16: 02
        10
        Quote: parusnik
        Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

        It happened on January 9, 1905 ... They didn’t go against the tsar, seek the truth from the tsar ... And in Khabarovsk, too, the same thing .. It’s possible to dig deeper, the 17th century, of the salt, copper riots, the identity began with what the truth was sought, yes asked the bad boyars to reason ..

        Yes, in 1905 the people were poured with lead .. after that the people, in my opinion, didn’t look for the truth, but searched for how to remove the clamp from themselves .. Although, yes, it’s not funny, the king is good, the boyars are bad .. the formula still works ..
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 16: 06
          -6
          True, the first shots were made by provocateurs from the crowd at the troops. Yeah: the then Khodorkovsky bulk.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 13 July 2020 16: 32
            16
            Yeah: the then Khodorkovsky bulk.
            ... Let me remind you pop Gapon secret police agent. Who do you mention, too .. What has changed.?
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 17: 15
              +2
              Gapon, in fact, was himself injured by the return fire of government troops, so that he was unlikely to lead the people to slaughter - the demonstration was planned as peaceful. But someone really wanted blood.
          2. tatra
            tatra 13 July 2020 16: 39
            +6
            Another myth blinded by the enemies of the Communists to justify political repressions and executions, executions of people at rallies, with Nicholas II praised by you for the sake of profit.
            1. Astra wild
              Astra wild 13 July 2020 18: 10
              0
              This was on the website of Samsonov. In my opinion it was before my arrival
              1. tatra
                tatra 13 July 2020 18: 23
                -1
                Enemies of the communists all their lives, both under the USSR and after their seizure of the USSR, live according to the "manuals" that are beneficial to them. Likewise, ALL the facts that they, for the sake of profit, expose for the crimes of the Soviet power slandered by them, they justify from the praised by them for the benefit of Nicholas II, including the execution of meetings.
                1. Snail N9
                  Snail N9 13 July 2020 19: 03
                  23
                  So ALL facts that they expose for the sake of profit for the crimes of the Soviet government slandered by them, they justify Nicholas II praised by them for the benefit, including the shooting of rallies.

                  Under the tsar, the common people lived happily and securely, which was why he had to rebel, except with fat and from the instigation of the "revolutionaries" .....

                  PS: In the photo, girls and women are happy that they are provided with work. wink
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 13 July 2020 19: 24
                    11
                    Quote: Snail N9
                    PS: In the photo, girls and women are happy that they are provided with work.

                    Then, as now, the main thing is to be provided with work .. People who enthusiastically recall RI do not know history or are attracted to only crunch buns and they think that they would certainly crunch bun and were at the title laughing But the realities are completely different and being in serfs, peasants, or even working life is not the best ..
                    1. not main
                      not main 14 July 2020 00: 54
                      -4
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: Snail N9
                      PS: In the photo, girls and women are happy that they are provided with work.

                      Then, as now, the main thing is to be provided with work .. People who enthusiastically recall RI do not know history or are attracted to only crunch buns and they think that they would certainly crunch bun and were at the title laughing But the realities are completely different and being in serfs, peasants, or even working life is not the best ..

                      Well said! But only ... the slaves were gone! And the peasants and workers fully provided for their families! By the way, "they didn't crunch a roll!"
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 13 July 2020 17: 06
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: parusnik
        They didn’t go against the king, seek the truth from the king ...

        It can be interpreted this way, but it can be done differently: Putin undertook to bite off the hands of possible militants who could resist when Putin carried out his reforms - there was too little time left to be able to decapitate the whole thing capable of active actions AGAINST.
        After all, if GDP does not begin nationalization, then we can assume that all the steam went to the whistle and the crowd and the 5th column will start writing the script.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 13 July 2020 20: 06
          13
          After all, if GDP will not start nationalization, then we can assume that all the steam went into the whistle and the script will start writing both the crowd and the 5th column.
          Are you all dreaming? It’s time to wake up already. I highlighted in bold the real version of the "guarantor's"
        2. Aag
          Aag 13 July 2020 21: 10
          +5
          And what is so stuck? Was there little time before the village? (Without denying individual difficulties and real successes)? There are more failures, as it turns out !?
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 14 July 2020 04: 25
          0
          Well, judging by the number of my drawbacks, the liberda still rules in the country, but this is not in the upper echelons of power: they still adhere to the rule "not a day without arrest, not a single arrest without charge." However, the literacy of the sequence evokes respect: first, they neutralize the old bison (Ishaev (so as not to join with the protests), and then take the young wolves "freshly bottled", which have not yet imbued with the spirit of collegiality.
          What is characteristic is that they are taken immediately by whole collectives: look at Bykov in Krasnoyarsk - he (both in company with the Black brothers and separately) tried in the mid-90s (a quarter of a century has passed !!) to take over both hydropower in Eastern Siberia and aluminum raw materials - it did not work, despite the frank criminalism of methods, but the affairs of the past years were not forgotten, rather, on the contrary, they were filled with materials ...
          They took him the other day - and immediately to M-woo, the fate of the "fellow students" is unknown ...
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 13 July 2020 15: 52
      +4
      Residents of Khabarovsk well done that stood up for the van
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 13 July 2020 16: 02
        +5
        About the people, politics, reforms, voting, protests, and where did they look before ??? ... certainly polemic questions, but in fact there is only one question: was he (Furgal) detained and arrested legally or not? And that’s it!
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 16: 03
          +1
          Do you know many governors who marry 30 thousand people as one? What do you think people would marry as a killer and a thief?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 13 July 2020 16: 13
            +5
            Quote: Clever man
            Do you know many governors who marry 30 thousand people as one? What do you think people would marry as a killer and a thief?

            I remember the 90s and the "zero" (at the regional level), when the lads organized "popular support" during the elections, for "one and two!" And this, with those only emerging political technologies.
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 13 July 2020 17: 02
              11
              you really have nightingales in your head nested. Then just don’t ask the stupid question “who but n .... ah?” Where do they come from if the people of Guber and immediately to the bunks?
              1. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs 13 July 2020 19: 35
                -7
                Well, tady your comment can be interpreted as "for the coup", the rest and the rest get lost. Or maybe something else did you mean?
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 13 July 2020 21: 09
                  -1
                  What is a coup in your opinion?
                2. Aag
                  Aag 13 July 2020 21: 15
                  +6
                  Quote: Alex Nevs
                  Well, tady your comment can be interpreted as "for the coup", the rest and the rest get lost. Or maybe something else did you mean?

                  That is, any opinion that is different from that voiced in the media is a coup d'etat?
                  In my age there are enough shocks. But, this is not a reason to twist the rope from me.
              2. Terenin
                Terenin 14 July 2020 11: 43
                +5
                Quote: Clever man
                you really have nightingales in your head

                Why is there such a zeal to fly through other people's nests, to your nest when you plan to return? Although, it is clear that there is already a cuckoo postponed something.
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 14 July 2020 13: 08
                  -3
                  ???????? Have arrived
          2. unaha
            unaha 13 July 2020 16: 43
            36
            I suppose they did not marry Furgal in Khabarovsk, as such, but because of their disregard for their choice. Again, I think very many people believe that the arrest is not connected with the past sins of the governor, but "a demonstrative reprisal against the politically objectionable leader of the protest region."
            This is the trust of the authorities.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 13 July 2020 16: 51
              +2
              Quote: unaha
              I believe in Khabarovsk they didn’t go beyond Furgal,

            2. smart ass
              smart ass 13 July 2020 17: 33
              +6
              On YouTube, go into trends and listen to what people are chanting at a protest in Khabarovsk, do not argue without information
            3. Magog_
              Magog_ 13 July 2020 22: 40
              +8
              Before the people make their choice, the candidate goes through a strong sieve on the subject of convictions, income and property declarations, I believe, all criminal investigative cases are raised, where it is possible to substitute a candidate unwanted by the authorities. Nothing of the kind happened in the pre-election kitchen - it means there was nothing to show! And then, suddenly ... And as you know, nothing happens SUDDENLY! Most likely, there will be no evidence, but the "unpleasant smell" will remain ...
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 14 July 2020 05: 04
                +1
                In order for "only a smell" to remain, Furgal must be released, even if even in a month ... or are you sure that he will come out clean and not sprinkled?
                And to vang, one must have talent ...
                1. syndicalist
                  syndicalist 14 July 2020 18: 26
                  0
                  Quote: hydrox
                  Are you sure that it will come out clean and unclipped?

                  If so, then he is a man of the system, and the people were mistaken
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 15 July 2020 04: 56
                    +1
                    If he were a "man of the system", they simply wouldn't take him!
                    Because until now they have not taken ANY person of the system with a name and surname that would be heard by the whole country, which means that while there is only a cleanup from possible contenders for a piece of power (or even just "tribunes" capable of people "ignite"), or, more likely, there is a dissection of ilikki into separate arrays of regional oligarchy that are weakly connected by production chains or cash flows
                    1. syndicalist
                      syndicalist 16 July 2020 07: 34
                      0
                      Do you seriously believe that Ulyukaev, Belykh and other zarcharchenki were secret navalists, and not people of the system?
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 16 July 2020 17: 06
                        +1
                        You still do not understand that we have DIFFERENT systems of reference, calculation and calculation? ...
          3. Thunderbringer
            Thunderbringer 13 July 2020 17: 12
            -6
            Quote: Clever man
            What do you think people would marry as a killer and a thief?

            Easily.
            It all depends on what they pour in their ears. And from the opportunity to fill the wallet naturally.
            1. mdsr
              mdsr 13 July 2020 17: 48
              +6
              Quote: Thunderbringer
              It all depends on what they pour in their ears. And from the opportunity to fill the wallet naturally.

              I don’t care what they’re trying to fill in my ears with bulk or Khodorkovsky. To propagate the nullification, I also spit from a high bell tower. Do not hold everyone by. Apparently, it was precisely such (not) those who came to a rally in Khabarovsk. I support them and in my heart I am with them. Those of you who claim that these people went to the rally for money, you - under very bad people who have neither conscience nor honor.
          4. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 13 July 2020 19: 11
            0
            Thousands marched over Mavrodi.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 14 July 2020 11: 30
              +5
              Quote: Alex Justice
              Thousands marched over Mavrodi.

              Moreover, I know people who, at the beginning of Mavrodi's activities, stood for hours, in line, at night, in the cold ... so that they would accept their money (as it turned out later, irrevocably).
          5. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 14 July 2020 01: 21
            -3
            only officially more than 20 times more inhabitants live in the city than 30 thousand who were not there. The city center is historical. The streets are pretty narrow. I live there very close on the next street. it seems to you a lot, but I assure you for the holidays 30 thousand people are the whole promenade full and the whole center. it wasn’t you, you think all together, including passers-by there are a great many, since the summer is warm and people always walk there. many people. there are fountains and boulevards nearby. many places to relax easy. I damn because of these clowns I can’t take my daughter for a walk. She likes to ride a scooter on Lenin Square.
          6. Roman123567
            Roman123567 14 July 2020 08: 57
            0
            I even know such a whole president .. And there’s more of everybody coming out ..))
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 17: 36
          -2
          Calm down illegally
      2. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 13 July 2020 16: 42
        +7
        Residents of Khabarovsk well done that stood up for the van

        Has the information about his innocence already been confirmed? Or trumped-up charges? "Furgala" is accused of organizing the murders, maybe you first need to figure it out, and then get up for him?
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 16: 57
          -2
          Do you suggest that wolves pronounce a verdict of not guilty on a sheep?
          1. Alex Nevs
            Alex Nevs 13 July 2020 19: 38
            -13 qualifying.
            Do you offer a coup? Then where are the votes? ..... to Ukraine? not?
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 13 July 2020 19: 57
              +1
              Voters on the street of Khabarovsk for their governor
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 14 July 2020 01: 25
                -2
                this is their small part. do I have to suffer because of them now? people call it a circus. and laugh at it. dozens of bloggers suddenly drew themselves. is it normal that the online broadcast in youtube is carried out by a blogger of something Khakassia there? where is the pancake Khabarovsk and where is Khakassia ah? reporters with echo matzah there in the forefront. walk in the forest with your clown protests.
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 14 July 2020 09: 01
                  0
                  this is their small part. do I have to suffer because of them now?
                  For Putin, too, a small part .. but the whole country suffers ..
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 14 July 2020 09: 05
                    -1
                    yeah. just some tens of millions.
            2. Roman123567
              Roman123567 14 July 2020 09: 01
              +2
              If you talk like that .. that the residents in the ELECTIONS chose a governor ..
              That is the Kremlin now and is trying to bring about a coup .. throwing people's voices into the ballot box ..
        2. unaha
          unaha 13 July 2020 17: 10
          11
          This is not the point. He can easily turn out to be guilty, the Far East, yes in the 90s ... The question is why exactly questions arose to him about past cases and precisely after he headed a region (apparently quite important) against a protest background and from the "opposition")))
          It would have turned out from a united Russia and no one would have remembered about his sins and wouldn’t have remembered, huh?
          1. Aag
            Aag 13 July 2020 21: 31
            +5
            Strange, they don’t remember about the Kremlin cook (Prigozhin) ...
            Somehow they accustomed to the idea that all immigrants from the 90s were a priori smeared, such as the times were, otherwise nothing ... And here, on you: they found the villain.
            I do not condone, I do not condemn anyone, because I do not own the information. But, let’s be consistent: since the past sins were written off (or only to the elect), we will be judged by current affairs!
            Or is the people wrong again?
        3. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 18: 39
          +7
          My respect to the patriots of Khabarovsk and the whole region
        4. Kisa
          Kisa 14 July 2020 00: 26
          +2
          Well, if you play in principle, then maybe it’s worth closing those dudes from the bodies that have preserved these charges for 15 years and get it at the right time.?! and surely for every daddy there is a beating off hand.
          in general, it’s not convincing to hear from you living in the suburbs for whom to get up to the Khabarovsk residents in Khabar ....
      3. Galleon
        Galleon 13 July 2020 17: 15
        +2

        Not only residents of Khabarovsk
      4. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 13 July 2020 19: 10
        -4
        Residents of Khabarovsk well done that stood up for the van

        And what do they know about his dealings? The investigation will figure it out. Then protest if there are claims to the court.
        The protest is pressure on the investigation and the instigators should be involved.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 20: 02
          +1
          Yeah, the voters live with him in the same region, they don’t know anything about the affairs of the wagon because they went out substituting themselves under the article) you have super-cool logic
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 14 July 2020 01: 26
            +1
            How do the youngsters know the majority there? they were born only shortly before the frills of Furgal)
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 14 July 2020 09: 03
              -1
              And the freaks nullified were not at the same times ??
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 14 July 2020 09: 09
                +1
                walk in the forest. what does it have to do with my hometown and specifically this bandos whom I know hell knows how many years? his close timokha who was taken in 11 with his assistant assistant's crusts in a crowded machine stuffed with weapons is generally a meme among people. in 19 came out and about the miracle of the forest in the province sat. without his mediation you will not sell anything here now. is this a family with a bunch of relatives stuck in general all over the region from ports to the Duma is this news for you?)
        2. syndicalist
          syndicalist 14 July 2020 18: 31
          0
          Quote: Alex Justice
          The investigation will figure it out. Then protest if there are claims to the court.

          Still people in the country trusting the court and the investigation?
    6. evgenii67
      evgenii67 13 July 2020 16: 03
      12
      Quote: Svarog
      Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

      yeah it sounds especially funny when you hear what the people of Khabarovsk and other cities are chanting: "Putin is a thief!", "Putin's resignation!" etc. This is probably so the people of Khabarovsk for GDP ?!
      15 years have passed, 15 Carl. They just remembered now ?! funny and sad. nobody is showing anything to Ramzan, or they are afraid, or simply OWN and NEEDED, or, which is the fastest, both.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 13 July 2020 20: 12
        +9
        The country is ruled by thieves, in power, if you conduct real investigations, there will be hundreds, if not thousands of criminals who robbed the country from the 90s to the present.
    7. rocket757
      rocket757 13 July 2020 16: 08
      12
      Quote: Svarog
      Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

      Anything can happen.
      Some argue that there are anyone who advocates for Russia, but not for the current government, but not patriots, etc.
      Although, all this is not funny and only confirms the thesis that in the country there is no unity from and to! Many people see the country’s path differently from others, not like the current authorities.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 13 July 2020 16: 26
        15
        Quote: rocket757
        Some argue that there are anyone who advocates for Russia, but not for the current government, but not patriots, etc.

        You know, I look at it all and desperately want to go back to the USSR. Without these reformers, PR, without gay pride parades, iPhones, and disputes, who is more patriotic.
        There is a whole cycle of videos called "Dedicated to Born in the USSR". Much, what is said there, the generation that was born later and so hate the USSR, do not even know. And this is scary. He who does not know his history has no future. And I looked with great pleasure ... because I was born in that great country! Where there is no pedophilia, rampant corruption, foreign banks, loans and raising the retirement age.



        This is not a complete series of videos. The rest, who are interested, will be looked up on YouTube themselves.
        I what it is ... there was stability, confidence and people were busy with business, and not hanging out like excrement in their pants.
        1. apro
          apro 13 July 2020 16: 36
          +6
          The Nexus ... you cannot return to that place and time. Which you destroyed with your own hands and tongues ...
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 July 2020 16: 36
          +7
          Here's another thing, to refresh the memory about the "decayed USSR" ... THIS IS THE ONE WHO JUDGES THE UNION ON THE BOOKS OF SOROS AND DEMOCRATS-REFORMERS.



          There was real patriotism, but now it is not patriotism, but piarastism.
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 13 July 2020 16: 47
            -9
            There was no pedophilia? Well, yes, yes, yes ... Communicated with the opera (already in years), he told such things. Disclosure was simply worse, there were no cameras, no digital databases, etc. And there were also thieves above the roof, which are now considered to be the elite and their children
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 13 July 2020 16: 53
              20
              Quote: Dangerous
              There was no pedophilia? Well, yes, yes, yes ... Communicated with the opera (already in years), he told such things.

              On such a scale as it is now? Dear, my friend opera can tell you WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY. And what your operas told you will seem like a fairy tale to you.
              Quote: Dangerous
              Disclosure was simply worse, there were no cameras, no digital databases, etc.

              Disclosure say ... are you married? Tell me, do you release your wife from one end of the city to the other at 3 nights on foot?
              Estimate, and with the USSR it is easy. I lived in a small town in the south of Moldova with a population of 30 thousand people. The most criminal thing that happened in this city in 10! years, this is ponazhovshchina behind the disco, in which a person is not killed, but slightly trimmed. And the next day everyone was found and attracted. And no one there tried to hush up the matter with bribes, since they knew it would not work.
              1. Dangerous
                Dangerous 13 July 2020 16: 58
                -3
                I have no reason not to believe the words of that person. but alright, everyone has their own truth
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 13 July 2020 17: 01
                  +9
                  Quote: Dangerous
                  I have no reason not to believe the words of that person. but alright, everyone has their own truth

                  The concepts of CONSCIENCE, ORDER, HOMELAND, PATRIOTISM, FAITH ... were not a cardboard fake there. And this was instilled not only by the family, but also by the state, which really and de facto cared for its citizens.
                  Is the state taking care of you now? Did you pay all the loans and utility bills? And if God forbid you get to the hospital, will you still be cowards? fellow
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 17: 10
                -14 qualifying.
                Yeah, street crime in the scoop was higher than the current one. And they took off their hats and gutted their wallets - everything was there. And there were plenty of apartment thefts. In the same St. Petersburg there were areas in which it was better not to appear in the evening.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 13 July 2020 17: 15
                  +9
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Yeah, street crime in the scoop was higher than the current one. And they took off their hats and gutted their wallets - everything was there. And there were plenty of apartment thefts. In the same St. Petersburg there were areas in which it was better not to appear in the evening.

                  Dear, you don’t have to pull an owl on the globe. There was not a single state where there was no crime, but ... there was no such rampant drug addiction, pedophilia, corruption and elementary deception nationwide in the USSR. So do not distort. The USSR was not a paradise in the biblical sense of the word, but it was not the garbage dump of the West, which is now the Russian Federation and all the republics of the former Union.
                  And by the way, when the USSR was standing, there was no warrior in Europe ... however, in general the warrior in the world was quantitatively smaller.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 17: 17
                    -11 qualifying.
                    If all these phenomena were hushed up, then this does not mean that they were not. There were pedophiles and maniacs and drug addicts.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 13 July 2020 17: 19
                      +7
                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      If all these phenomena were hushed up, then this does not mean that they were not. There were pedophiles and maniacs and drug addicts.

                      There were ... but they were several orders of magnitude less than now in Russia alone. Che you modestly kept silent about this?
                    2. Aag
                      Aag 13 July 2020 21: 59
                      +6
                      And With Ivanov _____
                      I will answer you this way. During the Union, in order to know the negative, the flaws of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it was necessary to be STRONGLY immersed in the topic.
                      Now, on the contrary, you have to be blind, deaf, so as not to notice lawlessness. And you can, in the vast majority of cases, only with close acquaintance, and as a rule, count on the help of the police in protecting your rights, yourself, relatives, relatives, property. not disinterestedly. In the best case, kindly, humanly, (for free) you are advised not to get involved, not to look for the truth. Checked more than once ...
                    3. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 14 July 2020 09: 09
                      0
                      they were silent about all these phenomena,


                      For starters, you would learn to read ..
                      They wrote to you in Russian:
                      There is not and there was not a single state where there is no crime, but ... such a revelry
                2. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 14 July 2020 09: 08
                  +1
                  And there were plenty of apartment thefts.

                  Therefore, until 90, the key always lay under the rug, and the whole entryway knew about it .. not counting my friends and acquaintances / relatives of my parents ..
                  Write and scho ..))
              3. lucul
                lucul 13 July 2020 18: 32
                +4
                Tell me, do you release your wife from one end of the city to the other at 3 nights on foot?

                Yes, no problem at all - in Minsk it is completely safe. True, if on foot - 20-25km, from the end, you will have to cut to the end)))
            2. Valter1364
              Valter1364 13 July 2020 20: 52
              +5
              You're right! Everything was in the USSR! Novorossiysk, I was born and raised there. We had a couple of currency prostitutes, a couple of pedophiles and one drug addict. We guys even knew where he hides his school.
              I recall those times with sadness. And now Krasnodar Territory is the land of pedophiles, prostitutes and drug addicts. Pedofilov, undoubtedly more, the governor takes special care of this.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 13 July 2020 21: 56
                +2
                Quote: Valter1364
                Everything was in the USSR!

                The main thing was there CONFIDENCE OF PEOPLE AND SENSE OF SECURITY. And the state really THINKED and TAKEN CARE of its citizens, which is not and never was after the collapse of the Great Country.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2020 18: 17
            +3
            Indeed, looking at this, I catch myself thinking that this is the future, and not the past at all ...


            And part 9 is special ... a reminder of both Perestroika and the promised freedom, as well as of Yeltsin’s rule and his election.

            But then we now have freedom (of type), democracy, and any charms of life for your hard-earned money, including a mortgage. fellow
            1. Valter1364
              Valter1364 13 July 2020 20: 56
              +3
              Nexus, friend! I enjoyed watching all the videos! Before you break something, you need to make sure that you yourself know how to build.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 13 July 2020 20: 58
                +1
                Quote: Valter1364
                Nexus, friend! I enjoyed watching all the videos! Before you break something, you need to make sure that you yourself know how to build.

                I just decided to remind some of them, and some just show how it really was. Below, the last 3 parts of this cycle are 10,11 and 13 parts ... I don’t know, but I did not find the 12th. hi
                1. Van 16
                  Van 16 14 July 2020 05: 26
                  +1
                  "I just decided to remind some"
                  Thank you, I looked and remembered with pleasure. There is also a cycle "My Soviet" (my Soviet childhood, my Soviet youth, etc.), it is also interesting
        3. rocket757
          rocket757 13 July 2020 16: 47
          +3
          Unfortunately, then, besides the obvious, there was also a hidden one, from just working people.
          I also regret that all the best that was then, the current ones are trying to bury, extolling all the negative that was ...
          On my scales, for the working people there was a lot of good, much more ... but the worst broke free and WE, could not / did not want to crush it in time!
          Now there is no time to regret, it is necessary to build a new one, take as a basis a lot of what was then, if possible without repeating the previous mistakes.
          For this, I urge the people to unity. Together we are strong! And the goal, as it is always one true one, is to make the country great and all live in it well, with dignity.
        4. Astra wild
          Astra wild 13 July 2020 18: 23
          +4
          I also want in CHILDHOOD to MOM. But unfortunately, Apro's colleague is right
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2020 19: 04
            +1
            Quote: Astra wild
            I also want in CHILDHOOD to MOM.

            Remember? wink
        5. smart ass
          smart ass 13 July 2020 20: 03
          -2
          Your country is not and never will be, live in the present
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2020 20: 42
            +3
            Quote: Clever man
            Your country is not and never will be, live in the present

            Wait and see. Exactly the same certainly will not happen, but the very idea and spirit, I don’t even believe it, but I know it will be.
        6. NordUral
          NordUral 13 July 2020 20: 17
          +5
          I agree, Andrey! Yesterday I got an audio book, still impressed. With these in power in the country, this is our future.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2020 20: 24
            +2
            Quote: NordUral
            I agree, Andrey!

            Here is the end of this series ...

            And this is the answer to the elves who are western ...
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 13 July 2020 20: 51
              +2
              Thank! It’s a pity that not everyone remembers Alice and this song. And the youth does not know.
          2. strelokmira
            strelokmira 13 July 2020 22: 20
            -3
            I agree, Andrey! Yesterday I got an audio book, still impressed. With these in power in the country, this is our future.

            About the tales of bad Chinese they arrived, seeking to capture mother Russia ...
            Well, well laughing
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 13 July 2020 22: 35
              +2
              For whom are fairy tales, and for whom is reality, I do not know. I'm not talking about the Chinese, but about those who are in power in Moscow.
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 15 July 2020 06: 06
            +2
            Quote: NordUral
            Yesterday I got an audio book, still impressed. With these in power in the country, this is our future.

            Ego for sure, Robert gave out a masterpiece !!! Talented guy, I have long wanted to lay out this message to the screopatse and scrapie, and periodically in the bathhouse. hi
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 15 July 2020 17: 01
              +1
              And they’d do it right, Stroporez! There are half of those in VO, not to mention bots. They cannot accept the fact that the current relative prosperity is illusory.
        7. snucerist
          snucerist 13 July 2020 20: 22
          -2
          They were busy, right.
          And how much did you get for this business, didn’t you forget about it? Not in the army, not on the scaffold, not in the mailbox and not in the north?
          I remember very well.
          I remember how I received the first pay of a young specialist. As many as 120 rubles clean on hand.
          And since the matter was going to the wedding, he went to the market, to renew his shoes so as not to look barefoot at the wedding.
          He twisted imported shoes for 40 rubles in his hands, sighed heavily and trudged into a department store. There he took our domestic (but cheap) shit on his feet.
          The season in them, by the way, came out. It was possible to take stronger, but the bride and her relatives were completely ashamed of them.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2020 20: 33
            -1
            Quote: snucerist
            And how much did you get for this business, didn’t you forget about it?

            No, I didn’t forget ... and your children live with you, or will they pay out a mortgage room for 25-30 years at 10-14%?
            Say 120 rubles received ... you were not enough, not enough? And now much is enough?
            Then the requests were more modest, and more humane or something ... they bought without fat and without losing their minds on cheap plastic, such as an iPhone, for which the cost price is only $ 5. But to you, they sell it for a thousand. Here you have a beautiful and developed world! You haven’t ate this luxury yet, have you?
            Turkey and Greece have seen ... about how. And happiness full pants. All-inclusive felt, drinking cheap whiskey in a third-rate room Turkish. Here where the limit is Schastya! fellow
            Are you driving a foreign car? And if I tell you that the same brand-new bucket with nuts (plastic) rusts somewhere in the sump, because they produced a lot, but not everyone sells. But you plowed for this bucket, you took a loan, you spent part of your life ... but then you are in developed, Epona mother, capitalism live! fellow Do you feel the smell of freedom and prosperity for your thousands?
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 22: 08
              0
              Yes, it smelled. Freedom of choice. Buy something that is not "thrown" on the counter, having previously defended in a long queue. Mortgage? But here and now, not expecting when they will finally come down to you and provide you with housing. Skoko-skoko car models were available to the citizen of the scoop? And what was the quality of this junk? And about the cost: the lousy Zhigul was sold four times higher than the cost - but any capitalist nervously smokes on the sidelines.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 13 July 2020 22: 22
                -2
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Yes, it smelled. Freedom of choice.

                What are you talking about? Is this exactly freedom of choice, or did you come up with the idea that you have this choice?
                What are you able to choose, dear? A car, a hot trip to a cheap hotel in Turkey? Or maybe you have a choice to choose a ruler? So what is there with freedom of choice, about which you so ardently scratched here?
                I’m obviously upsetting you, but you don’t have freedom of choice. This is just an illusion that you were presented with in a very beautiful package.
                The boss tells you when to go on vacation, decides how much you will be paid for your work ... he will even decide how much to sleep, where to eat and where to go. But ... they gave you this illusion of freedom of choice so that you don’t pick it up tomorrow pitchforks, and did not raise all these chief officers against them.
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Mortgage? But here and now, not expecting

                What are you smoking there? What are they here and now? This is bondage and in the most sophisticated form. And you call it freedom? 30 years to give with predatory interest for housing ... PPC freedom here and now.
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                And what was the quality of this car trash?

                Eliminate the ways ... for your foreign bucket, how much time did you spend your life shob rolling your ass according to the European standard? They took a loan, or stupidly saved up? That is, in any case, for this technological bucket you gave part of your life.
                As for the Lada and Niva ... maybe our car industry was not so technologically advanced, but people did not have this idiocy and psychosis running around for imported auto trash. We went both to the Victories and to the Muscovites of the post-war period and, as it were, did not soar.
                At the same time, when buying foreign, you feed THEIR economy, but not the economy of your country. And I'm not talking about cars now ...
                As for the cost of Zhiguli, please be so kind as to voice it ...
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 22: 32
                  +1
                  The cost of Shokhi -1600 rubles. Retail - 6400. And I do not buy a car when the card comes, but when I want it. I will choose the model, color, equipment, dopik.
                  I don’t go to Turkey - I don’t like a seal holiday, but I often went fishing to Finka. There are very good fishing tours to Norway. How was it in the scoop to go fishing over the hill? And on my own wheels I drove a good half of Europe, I wonder, you know. By the way, in a scoop, could you buy housing for the children, so to speak "for growth"? And bequeath him? Sell, donate? It is unlikely.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 13 July 2020 22: 46
                    -4
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    And I’m buying a car not when the card comes, but when I want it. I will choose the model, color, equipment, dopik.

                    Is that freedom of choice? I can’t take such citizens ... well, well, I’ve chosen ... have you become happier right? Maybe confidence in the future appeared? Or maybe you yourself realized this somehow in life, for the benefit of your state? You are now, in essence, a pest to your state in which you live. Moreover, without realizing it, from the word at all. That is why everything in the West inspires you and is the standard of freedom and opportunity. And here it’s bad for you ... you measure everything with money, things, cars ... it’s not happiness, but only the comfort that the West has given us. It’s comfortable now to pay loans to banks, it’s comfortable to pay a good part of your salary for communal services, it’s comfortable to eat GMO products and tell you that this is all freedom. You have replaced the concepts of comfort and freedom in your head. You live with this.
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    How was it in the scoop to go fishing over the hill?

                    My friend went to Czechoslovakia and Finland .. and fine. Moreover, he always said, why should we dream of Fiji and Hawaii if our own country of life is not enough to travel around. And places and fishing and recreation here are no less than over the hill.
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    By the way, in a scoop, could you buy housing for the children, so to speak "for growth"?

                    I now live in a three-room parental apartment, a 12-meter veranda, and a total living area (without a veranda) of 97 sq m. I got this apartment from my parents.
                    You are now tearing your ass to buy something for children, save money, get into mortgages, burn your life and health for it ... and in the USSR, any young worker received at first a dormitory (not a bomber), and then his own dwelling. And now the state will give you free housing? M.
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    And bequeath him?

                    This treshka parent privatized and passed to me ... by law. I can sell, I can give, I can bequeath to my son. Questions?
                    1. AU Ivanov.
                      AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 23: 08
                      -2
                      Tell the residents of Leningrad communal apartments about any young workers - they would shower you with filthy rags. I have a grandfather and a grandmother, veterans - order-bearers in a communal apartment and got old, with no chance of improvement: you see, the square did not allow to stand in line, and the fact that 8 more families lived in the communal apartment besides them did not bother anyone. And you privatized a three-ruble note not under the Union, do not forget about that. Under the Soviet Union, the apartment did not belong to you or your parents - it was state-owned. Credit? A loan is a tool that was practically not in the scoop, with no matter how much I would have taken a loan for a car or an apartment in a mortgage in the 80s, so that I would not knock around in corners and hostels. Yes, there was money, but it was impossible to buy something worth it. Build a country house? Get 6 acres and build a kennel no more than a certain footage, but no more. If, of course, you find building materials. Cement, quality lumber, slate are in short supply. I generally keep quiet about various kinds of services - they were not from the word "in general" - now at the click of my fingers. With home delivery. What was left there? And confidence in the future! In what, in the wretched?
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 13 July 2020 23: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        In which, in wretched?

                        Live in your thriving and free capitalism! I see no reason to discuss with you, because this conversation will not give you anything, and I never needed anything from your alternative reality.
                      2. cosmonaut
                        cosmonaut 14 July 2020 08: 47
                        +2
                        I’m reading you, and I am happy for you. Life was a success. I didn’t have anything, and I don’t have it. As long as you went fishing in Europe, I worked in the mine for thanks. They didn’t give a salary for a year. And the salary is a laugh, but not a salary. another inflation. counted a penny on a presentation ... vativa. lived with his mother and father. to survive, they kept a garden, cows. They traded in the market. Often they sold goods on credit. like Turkey, like Europe in FIG. Dad worked as an engineer in underground transport, worked in a combine, that is, under his direction, underground transport worked for 25 mines. In the seventies he worked in Iran. He also built a mine. Also underground transport, a mine electrical substation, a mine lift. Mother and I also lived there. I was small. Such a melancholy was there for me ... I remember I came to the office of our leader of Soviet specialists, and said, send me to any Russian country, bring me to the border most importantly. I can’t come here. I want to go home. The man was stunned. says, but what do you do next? I say, and I’ll go there to the policeman, he will call my grandmother, and in Russia in many countries, she can come for me anywhere after me. That's how I remember abroad. The happiest day of my life is when I got on the bus to the airport, finally I leave home. I have never experienced a big buzz. I’m not catching it over the hill. By the way, there were our cars from Moskvich over the hill. there were different cars. They were gorgeous, but they were of the same quality as our Muscovite. And you don’t need to talk about our cars ... you live well, the current government is high for me. this power has been taken away from youth, health. my whole life has gone into poverty. now I get 8 rubles after infarction. it’s so much. 4 drugs are needed. and you are in Europe) I’m not complaining. I’m sorry that I was considered a person before as a working person. I was held in high esteem. Now in high esteem the one who stole a million, zk-jailers, hucksters, dog hairdressers, Borya Moiseev in high esteem. all sorrow, and not a simple person. Earlier, the government didn’t make a fool of me. Here you are all about Europe, and I am for everything that happened during the USSR. for DneproGES, for space, for the Victory, for how this Victory got. and how n Arod fought and worked, starved for this Victory. I won for labor victories after the war. You watch the news earlier, they built a new plant, threshed grain, built housing. Now drunk Efremov, or it suddenly snowed in the winter. It was remembered that customs handed over with deserteria and that’s all ukakali.vot so here we live. and you are Europe
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 14 July 2020 10: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: cosmonaft
                        . earlier the government did not make a fool of me.

                        You know, many, especially the generation that was born AFTER the USSR, do not understand this. And they cannot be blamed, because they have nothing to compare, unlike us. They do not understand how the state can take care of its citizens and respect simple hard workers. Because everything that happened after the USSR never put ordinary people into anything. They raise the minimum wage, increase a little pension ... but it's all like a handout from the master's table, they say, eat it, servants.
                        Children under the USSR dreamed of becoming astronauts, scientists, sailors ... and now bloggers, managers and bandits. This is a very vivid indicator of the impoverishment of not only the material order of the people, but also the spiritual. In the USSR they created, invented, designed, and now they only consume.
                        That's right, this Japanese said, a Japanese miracle was created by a RUSSIAN SIMPLE ENGINEER, and not by Masks, Rockefellers and Rothschilds, with their super-duper cars.
                        Those who shout that the USSR was backward and not technological, let them look at the inventions that are now used in the West and pass off as their own. Very surprised.
                2. nerovnayadoroga
                  nerovnayadoroga 14 July 2020 00: 28
                  0
                  5600 were Zhiguli, for example, in 1984, I earned on them for six months and I was 22 years old.
        8. NordUral
          NordUral 13 July 2020 21: 03
          +6
          This state of affairs was deliberately cultivated by those who were ruining the country, starting with Khrushchev. He, however, because of his nearness and obsession with hatred for Stalin. Brezhnev, too, did not completely correspond to his place, even in the early years, there was nothing to talk about the rest, and then everything became completely bad. I am firmly convinced that if the Stalinist course of development had remained, then a completely different and very successful country would have been today.
          1. cradle
            cradle 14 July 2020 04: 08
            +1
            we lack IVS like air.
      2. Never mind
        Never mind 13 July 2020 21: 50
        +2
        And most importantly, people were happy!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 July 2020 21: 59
          +3
          Quote: It doesn’t matter
          And most importantly, people were happy!

          True ... and in these frames it is difficult to find a fat man with an earthy complexion. People were healthy. Without any moronic diets, healthy lifestyles, fitness shmitnes ...
      3. Angelo Provolone
        Angelo Provolone 14 July 2020 01: 02
        0
        You know, I look at it all and desperately want to go back to the USSR.

        If you are agitated by the situation with Furgal, then I recommend that you revise the film and you will fall ill in the USSR. In my opinion, Furgal is a populist. Running and criticizing the camera is only to raise the rating. Systemically, problems are not resolved in this way.
  2. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 13 July 2020 16: 35
    -7
    Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

    And it also happens when people look in a book and see a fig ...
    Putin is not a member of the government they opposed (which, incidentally, has an indirect relation to this incident), he is the country's president and guarantor of constitutional compliance, and this, as they say in Odessa, is two big differences.
  3. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 13 July 2020 18: 18
    +9
    Quote: Svarog
    Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

    Apparently, while the people of the king is good, and the boyars are bad.
  4. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 13 July 2020 18: 25
    +4
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

    The author’s nonsense is still that ... But how the Khabarovsk residents themselves describe the reason for the performances:

    An interesting topic about this
    https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic2141570.html?hl=
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 14 July 2020 01: 43
      +2
      "But in Khabarovsk the flight was canceled, the plane was stuck there for a long time.
      -because there are no new times in our city "!
      V. Vysotsky
  5. Simargl
    Simargl 13 July 2020 18: 27
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    it doesn’t happen ..
    How so? The king is good - the boyars are bad. As always.
  6. sanya
    sanya 13 July 2020 19: 12
    -1
    Aha
  7. Snarkxnumx
    Snarkxnumx 13 July 2020 23: 38
    +4
    Markov listen, do not respect yourself. Cheap Mood ... ringing ..
  8. cradle
    cradle 14 July 2020 04: 06
    0
    why doesn’t it happen? If you recall how many Medvedev, Siluanov and others like them heaped up ... and how it still burps. Just do not need that Putin could reset them all ...
  • Olegater
    Olegater 13 July 2020 15: 41
    +9
    Was the protest in Khabarovsk unexpected?
    Power of those who wake up!
    Just a couple of reforms like retirement or some other type of vote, like the recent one, and you’ll get not a protest, but a complete bummer, if not sharper to say!
    And do not ask the people "and we are for sho?"
    1. apro
      apro 13 July 2020 15: 46
      0
      Quote: Olegater
      A couple more reforms like retirement or some other type of vote

      Why a couple? There have already been so many of these innovations and nothing ... but how many will be ...
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 13 July 2020 15: 49
        +6
        That's it - how much more innovation has been prepared (obscene !!) and has not yet been announced!
        There can be any reason for the protest. And in the Kremlin they are surprised. From their point of view, they are doing everything right, only one point of view, the Kremlin. Oh well.

        And on the fact of the arrest of the wagon I have a few questions:
        Why, as soon as they didn’t establish participation in the crime, didn’t they detain them?
        Why was such an individual with a criminal past so long in power?
        1. apro
          apro 13 July 2020 15: 51
          +2
          Quote: Olegater
          From their point of view, they are doing everything right, only one point of view, the Kremlin. Oh well.

          Do you have another? Are you ready to justify and defend it?
          1. Olegater
            Olegater 13 July 2020 15: 58
            +8
            Speak please:
            Why are there individuals with a criminal past in power?
            So the authorities accept such?
            Why are anti-people laws passed?
            A juvenile law is on its way, it is very interesting, and the initiative is being brought in by those who shut their mouths to us. kishas and krashennikov.
            Yes, the PEOPLE can also have a point of view, imagine, not only among the Kremlin residents.

            This is all superficial, but if you constantly study the "law-making", what these figures have accepted and what they accept, then we will be surprised!
            1. apro
              apro 13 July 2020 16: 03
              +6
              Quote: Olegater
              Why are anti-people laws passed?

              Damn ... like small children ... capitalism in the country. Which is not clear. And all his actions are aimed at making profit and the people as a resource for making profit. This is the end of the phrase.
              1. unaha
                unaha 13 July 2020 16: 51
                +5
                Even under capitalism, the resource can be treated very differently. You can quickly squeeze the resource and escape to another location with the squeezed out. And do not care what remains after.
                And you can develop a resource and receive dividends from constant growth. Not so much and not immediately, but for a long time, expanding the resource base in all planes, with confidence in the future.
                1. apro
                  apro 13 July 2020 16: 54
                  +3
                  Quote: unaha
                  Even under capitalism, it can be very different

                  And who argues ... if the resource is capable of self-discipline and self-organization ... and most importantly, it has a desire to defend its life.
                  1. unaha
                    unaha 13 July 2020 16: 59
                    +2
                    "if the resource is capable of self-discipline and self-organization" - the resource has been weaned from such bad habits for a long time and purposefully, not without success.
                    Yes, and many are afraid. And even more just do not care, we live one day.
                    1. apro
                      apro 13 July 2020 17: 06
                      +3
                      Quote: unaha
                      the resource from such bad habits was weaned for a long time and purposefully,

                      Already not VILenin.bonbu planted. Are not the bloody Jews of the Bolsheviks?
                      1. unaha
                        unaha 13 July 2020 17: 18
                        +1
                        Also noted ... and very bold. Let not from evil. A paternalistic state, by definition, weaned from independence and self-organization.
                      2. apro
                        apro 13 July 2020 17: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: unaha
                        Also noted ... and very bold. Let not from evil. A paternalistic state, by definition, weaned from independence and self-organization.

                        So the Russians are not capable of upholding their own interests ... they are not able to think critically and make optimal decisions ... then immediately lie down and die ...
                      3. unaha
                        unaha 13 July 2020 17: 48
                        -2
                        Well, young people with this are better, I hope for the future)
                    2. Astra wild
                      Astra wild 13 July 2020 19: 14
                      +2
                      My name is LENIN DEAR. My childhood passed under his portrait
      2. cradle
        cradle 14 July 2020 04: 09
        -1
        just criticizing is easiest. But if you ask essentially .... there will only be a slurred bul-bul
        1. apro
          apro 14 July 2020 04: 30
          +1
          Quote: besik
          But if you ask essentially ..

          And what is essentially a secret you wanted to hear?
          1. cradle
            cradle 15 July 2020 05: 40
            0
            Specifically on this issue, I would like to hear a non-Kremlin point of view, why is it impossible to conduct an investigation into Furgal in the light of the RECENTLY emerged details of his activities in 2004-2005, why are there immediately accusations by the authorities about his "non-persecution" during the previous years? Investigators, that the Gods should immediately know everything about each thoroughly? Are there many orders in other countries being investigated in hot pursuit? Why are the actions of the authorities immediately indiscriminate? Especially on this resource. Still not really known anything, but Baba Yaga is against it! What made Furgal so famous in the real economy apart from populist decisions? Why a rally, supposedly not organized (very much choreographed)? Why is the media so fiercely savoring from all sides at once? Is this OUR media? More questions? Or at least someone will clearly answer this thread?
    2. Kisa
      Kisa 14 July 2020 03: 04
      +1
      political expediency is called - Kadyrka, the younger Bosko, was an unfaithful man at the age of 16 ... and you’re talking about a kingdom of crooked mirrors
    3. cradle
      cradle 14 July 2020 04: 29
      -2
      I answer for those who are on the armored train: the people with whom he possibly organized the FSE were hit in 2019 and unwound on a recognition card, apparently just recently. About the criminal past could not be known. Do you know a lot of things when you immediately revealed the name of a customer in an order? There is an idea that 1,2 and ... miscalculated. Therefore, about poorly functioning bodies, it is not worth driving. They work out their loaf of bread. And yes, if you have a valid point of view of your own, then write here. And so we trample on it, with pleasure. Well, what? Democracy Well! laughing
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 13 July 2020 16: 50
    -7
    Was the protest in Khabarovsk unexpected?
    Power of those who wake up!
    Just a couple of reforms like retirement or some other type of vote, like the recent one, and you’ll get not a protest, but a complete bummer, if not sharper to say!
    And do not ask the people "and we are for sho?"

    How boring you are to read, the same thing on all resources. Not crazy or fancy .. "Pension", "zeroing", "protest", "we will become a country", where are you cloned, on a poultry farm?
  • Fungus
    Fungus 13 July 2020 15: 43
    -8
    I do not see a protest. 2% of the population of Khabarovsk came out on a day off and dispersed. Ash stump for the majority of Putin. The minority just wants to make itself known. Ukrainians and oval bots crow about Khabarovsk most of all in YouTube.
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 13 July 2020 15: 53
      +2
      That's when Moscow withdraws its 200, then we will compare.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 13 July 2020 16: 01
        +6
        Quote: Login_Off
        That's when Moscow withdraws its 200, then we will compare.

        And when will it be? And for what reason?
    2. cradle
      cradle 15 July 2020 05: 42
      0
      one hundred%! Petushkansky got excited.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 15: 43
    -14 qualifying.
    In Khabarovsk, NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest, and that handful of clowns probably have not yet felt the "charm" of the ventilator. And the absolute majority of Khabarovsk residents are deeply purple about the governor. It's just how the media ALWAYS tried to bungle a live adult elephant out of a fly that died last year, but as usual something went AS ALWAYS, that is, NOTHING.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 15: 54
      +9
      Quote: Gloomy Skeptic
      In Khabarovsk, NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest, and that handful of clowns probably have not yet felt the "charm" of the ventilator. And the absolute majority of Khabarovsk residents are deeply purple about the governor. It's just how the media ALWAYS tried to bungle a live adult elephant out of a fly that died last year, but as usual something went AS ALWAYS, that is, NOTHING.

      Before pushing such pathetic speeches, you would have monitored videos from the protests in Khabarovsk - I already think there are several hundred - where ordinary "people from the crowd" are filming how "NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest" repeat and if it is called "NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest" - then what will happen there when they take to the streets to protest ?! ... belay
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 16: 23
        -12 qualifying.
        Are you sure these are ordinary people? Or like in St. Petersburg: shooting from the right angles by interested people? On the video - the crowd, in fact - one and a half crippled.
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 21: 51
          +3
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Are you sure these are ordinary people? Or like in St. Petersburg: shooting from the right angles by interested people? On the video - the crowd, in fact - one and a half crippled.

          But go to Medusa, find there articles on this topic, and watch the many hours of videos - there is right in the article hi And so if someone says that this is a farce and staging - he surely fell from the moon to Russia wassat
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 22: 13
            -6
            Jellyfish, Echo, Novaya Gazeta, where else to look?
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 22: 26
              +3
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Jellyfish, Echo, Novaya Gazeta, where else to look?

              You can on YouTube hi
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 15: 47
    +3
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia.
    Neighing laughing
    You already, the Author, decide - "either with a cross in shorts or naked without a cross" lol

    The people expressed their "fi" to the authorities for all the "good" that they, the Vlast, did for them - here it is "a no brainer" hi
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 13 July 2020 16: 09
      +8
      The author (Markov) has long been determined - with a cross, or naked, but for GDP! soldier
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 13 July 2020 15: 54
    12
    I would like to hear the actual Khabarovsk residents, and not couch experts on the protests, which everywhere the State Departments and bulk seem.
    I remember traveling to Yekaterinburg after the protests and talked a lot with locals from various walks of life. All were unanimously opposed and not at all possessed, but by the great patriots of their city. They will pile in the coffin.
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 14 July 2020 02: 55
      +3
      Well, what do you want to hear from Khabarovsk?
      A thief should be in prison - yes.
      To hold up wringing hands and immediately post on the Internet a video, like a window dress, how to break authority, - no.
      According to indicators, the region is no worse than others.
      It was our choice, the vote was a protest in the election - against Sport with United Russia. The wagon itself was in shock.
      Broke it - yes. One of his last shoals is to make him stick to certain polling stations and vote for everyone (it was said at meetings with ministers and heads of regional institutions), which was done.
      Reduced costs - yes.
      Reduced premiums - yes.
      Construction objects do not give up on time - yes.
      Non-tax revenues increased (such as fines) - yes.
      There were more inspections of the prosecutor's office (although this is not his business) - yes.
      What else to say?

      They went for the fact that they are again trying to impose a choice on us.
      Trutnev arrived and could not say anything, because there were NO teams from Moscow!
      these are all said.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 14 July 2020 11: 48
        +4
        Quote: Login_Off
        To hold up wringing hands and immediately post on the Internet a video, like a window dress, how to break authority, - no.

        I agree, the head of the FSB press service is rated "Two" negative
        By the way, who is he?
      2. flicker
        flicker 14 July 2020 14: 56
        0
        Strange request normal comment does not pass
      3. flicker
        flicker 14 July 2020 15: 00
        0
        They went for the fact that they are again trying to impose a choice on us.
        Trutnev arrived and could not say anything, because there were NO teams from Moscow!
        Well done that came out, if they also understood the situation it would be even better.
        True, then you would not go out bully
        Explain fails comment fails.
      4. flicker
        flicker 14 July 2020 17: 52
        0
        Trutnev arrived and could not say anything, because there were NO teams from Moscow!

        Not because ... but because "I gave birth to you, I will kill you!"
        more precisely: "you gave birth, you and sorted it out!"
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 16: 01
    +5
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Before pushing such pretentious speeches, you would have monitored videos from the protests in Khabarovsk - I already think there are several hundred - where ordinary "people from the crowd" are filming how "NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest" and if it's called "NOBODY and never went to protest "- what will happen there when they take to the streets to protest ?! ...

    I live in Khabarovsk and was present at the scene - that's the whole answer. And to remove 100 people and pass them off as "thousands" of protesters - any schoolchild does this on a smartphone in half an hour without much straining. And the governor in Khabarovka DOES NOT LOVE and they chose him not for, but in spite of the fact that the previous one was a complete rag, moreover, illiterate in economic management.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 13 July 2020 16: 06
      +9
      Quote: Grim Skeptic
      I live in Khabarovsk and attended the scene - that’s the whole answer.

      and immediately after the events, we decided to register for VO in order to bring the light of truth to local users good
      1. Gloomy skeptic
        Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 16: 09
        +1
        No, not right away. I have been visiting the site for a long time, but only TODAY got into the comments, and here it is NEVER registered.
        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 13 July 2020 19: 18
          +1
          And immediately to sergeants mahpuli., And after a month catch me up?
          1. Gloomy skeptic
            Gloomy skeptic 14 July 2020 01: 18
            -1
            Somehow everything turned out by itself, I don’t even know why the ranks on this resource are assigned. If you explain - I will be grateful. Yesterday I was a senior sergeant, and today in the morning again the youngest - what's my fault ???
            1. cradle
              cradle 14 July 2020 04: 12
              +1
              hammer in the ranks. Whatever you consider necessary, write. Do you care about universal approvers, sir? Well for all you will not be good. Be yourself simple. drinks
              1. Gloomy skeptic
                Gloomy skeptic 14 July 2020 05: 22
                0
                Yes, I generally noticed only after a comment about the rank. I really do not care. Thank you for the comment.
            2. cradle
              cradle 14 July 2020 04: 34
              -2
              by the way, suspiciously .... you're not even ordinary anymore ... maybe a mishandled Cossack? wassat
              1. Astra wild
                Astra wild 14 July 2020 12: 21
                +1
                Colleague Besik, according to the rules of the Russian language, strangers do not poke each other. Rudeness somehow does not decorate.
                Why do we put ourselves in boors?
    2. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 16: 57
      -2
      Quote: Gloomy Skeptic
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Before pushing such pretentious speeches, you would have monitored videos from the protests in Khabarovsk - I already think there are several hundred - where ordinary "people from the crowd" are filming how "NOBODY and ANYWHERE went to protest" and if it's called "NOBODY and never went to protest "- what will happen there when they take to the streets to protest ?! ...

      I live in Khabarovsk and was present at the scene - that's the whole answer. And to remove 100 people and pass them off as "thousands" of protesters - any schoolchild does this on a smartphone in half an hour without much straining. And the governor in Khabarovka DOES NOT LOVE and they chose him not for, but in spite of the fact that the previous one was a complete rag, moreover, illiterate in economic management.

      I do not say or say that they love him there or not bully
      I just saw a few dozen videos myself, shooting the first protest (today was the third day) from different angles and places, and now in 10 thousand people I believe in protest - in 100 people - sorry - I DO NOT believe it !!! bully
      1. cradle
        cradle 14 July 2020 04: 16
        0
        Well, they didn’t talk about 100 thousand, but about 30 ... But that's not the point. The bottom line is that you just need to figure it out thoroughly, and then act. And do not gather about and without. Some kind of stupidity .... perhaps a paid meanness.
    3. bars876
      bars876 14 July 2020 13: 49
      0
      Hey, Khabarovsk resident, you, even from the Far East ... The people came out, and not a hundred people ... And this Saturday they will come out !!! And people, finally establish a tick current, there people have laid out so much and everyone will understand ... And you, shut your mouth about 100 people !!!! In all cities, protests ....
      1. flicker
        flicker 14 July 2020 14: 27
        -1
        And this Saturday will come out again !!!
        If people come out, then just take a walk laughing
        Trutnev arrived in Khabarovsk! wassat
      2. cradle
        cradle 15 July 2020 02: 06
        0
        don’t have to turn on hamlo, to strangers ... hear ... fall ... you never know how it can happen in life
  • codetalker
    codetalker 13 July 2020 16: 07
    +3
    What is unexpected? The local elite resists their destruction. What a surprise. By the way, one can figure out at these events how organized protests differ from spontaneous, well, if someone still has not figured it out. The first protest was organized by local managers - 10-12 thousand came out, they acted harmoniously. Then they had an impact on local elitists from the center and subsequent protests turned into disorganized walking of small groups of people in different places.
  • alone
    alone 13 July 2020 16: 18
    +4
    The well-known politician S. Markov still did not understand that both the government, the State Duma, and the Federation Council are doing what V.V. Putin says. With centralized vertical governance, it cannot be a priori different.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 13 July 2020 16: 22
    0
    Sergey is mistaken. A friend from Khabarovsk just said that right now they have a nightly youth procession in the streets. In the columns are masked youth with flags of the FAR EAST, not Khabarovsk or Russia. And they are not for the Wagon! Khabarovsk citizens believe that this is akin to the beginning of Ukromaydan and the result of the long work of the intelligence services of China and Japan. Khabarovsk residents (and many Far Easterners) are VERY dissatisfied with the passive policy of the Russian government on the Far East and the inaction of the authorities now!
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 13 July 2020 17: 04
      -6
      I’m just wondering: WHAT those minusers will sing that silently give me minuses when they tell me in a couple of hours (or tomorrow) that in Khabarovsk there REALLY was a procession of young people with the flags of the Far East?
      And the majority of Khabarovsk citizens, although they are unhappy with the passivity and inaction of the authorities, are still FOR Putin and Russia!
      You can continue to sculpt me minus!
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 14 July 2020 13: 20
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
        I’m just wondering: WHAT those minusers will sing that silently give me minuses when they tell me in a couple of hours (or tomorrow) that in Khabarovsk there REALLY was a procession of young people with the flags of the Far East?
        And the majority of Khabarovsk citizens, although they are unhappy with the passivity and inaction of the authorities, are still FOR Putin and Russia!
        You can continue to sculpt me minus!

        They, the Zaputinians, have not yet updated the manuals - while they put you a minus - I put a plus by the way drinks
        Now they are writing that hundreds and thousands of people on the streets of the Khabarovsk Territory are an optical illusion. wassat
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 13 July 2020 18: 20
      +3
      And they are not for the Wagon!

      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 13 July 2020 18: 44
        +4
        I did not see any flags and did not hear people say: "Furgalov". They only said "freedom"
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 13 July 2020 19: 25
        -2
        And what do they know about the governor, his work and his past? Stop, ask anyone, there will be something to mumble like, we are all like fun here.
        1. flicker
          flicker 13 July 2020 23: 38
          -2
          Stop, ask anyone, there will be something to moo
          this is understandable, it does not steal edro, it steers (officially) organized crime groups. Which even in relation to each other is a beast.
          Members of the gangster community ended the working day ... with reports. Everyone wrote on a piece of paper, what his accomplices were doing during the day. All these “service notes” were laid on the table to Timofeev, then they were carefully analyzed and organizational conclusions followed. Moreover, the punishment for the negligent "employees" of the group was inevitable and not moral (they deprived of the prize), but by the very same physical. At best, they were beaten. At worst, they could never be found.

          ---
          The impression that someone specifically brought to power not the political party EdRo, but the most violent organized crime group.
          These liberoids could not organize people at the rally, but these will be driven like sheep. If you don’t go, we’ll expel us from work (since many employers benefit from organized crime groups or under organized crime groups). So the people walk around and take pictures of themselves on the phone in order to prove later that they rallied and demanded the release of Furgal.
          Plus the haypanutized youth, who just had a place to hang out.
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 13 July 2020 22: 40
        0
        Does this Kiev remind you of?
      4. flicker
        flicker 14 July 2020 13: 22
        +1
        Yuri Petrovich Trutnev himself arrived in Khabarovsk to resolve the situation! wassat
        ---
        And if you say: "and what Trutnev?" - it will mean that you do not understand anything in the current situation of Khabarovsk!
        bully
    3. flicker
      flicker 13 July 2020 23: 48
      -2
      In the columns are masked youth with flags of the FAR EAST, not Khabarovsk or Russia.

      I think this is not news for the special services. It seems that she was preparing for a long time preparing under the leadership of the new regional authorities, she is an organized crime group.
      Khabarovsk residents (and many Far Easterners) are VERY dissatisfied with the passive policy of the Russian government on the Far East and the inaction of the authorities now!
      No wonder Putin signed a decree at the end of June (!!!) on the appeal of reservists to military training.
      Aggravation was predicted.
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 13 July 2020 16: 24
    +3
    Or is it such an "expert" or there are only schizophrenics in Khabarovsk ...
    "strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia."
    laughing
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  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 13 July 2020 16: 29
    0
    Party mind, honor and conscience of our era! Times are changing and the propagandists are all alone. Functionaries of the ideological front.
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 13 July 2020 16: 29
    11
    ..for Putin. Strongly against the government ..

    Markov has bipolar disorder.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 July 2020 16: 30
    -3
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.
    As required. request
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 13 July 2020 16: 34
    +3
    12 thousand, maybe they can come out to protest spontaneously, but 30 thousand, as some here say, is already the result of the action of the organization of the separatists, especially since the calls for the formation of the Khabarovsk Republic on this bunch were concrete.
    Look at the root .., what happened most often happens. The flock of sheep was a disguise for wolves in sheep's clothing ...
    1. VIP
      VIP 13 July 2020 17: 04
      -6
      My corefan lives near Khabarovsk. He called: they have a rumor that 50% were paid there, and by whom? So, what do you draw conclusions
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 13 July 2020 18: 23
        0
        rumor goes
        about rumors

        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 13 July 2020 18: 35
          -2
          And if all the same - it turns out to be true? Below already flashes about it. I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH . There is a lot of fog, and so let's wait
        2. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 14 July 2020 01: 39
          -5
          https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKcT73_Sa10I&ved=2ahUKEwjpq7OQp8vqAhXoy6YKHStbBvcQo7QBMAZ6BAgGEAE&usg=AOvVaw03-5jtgB-pegKi6GTYBUEV
      2. flicker
        flicker 13 July 2020 23: 23
        -2
        50% were paid there
        Someone under threat of dismissal, someone promised to release a week from the "tribute".
        In total, the "sports club" consisted of nine groups, - says Oleg Pavlenko, head of the department of the Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for the Khabarovsk Territory, to the "KP-Khabarovsk" correspondent. (it’s not a solid number for criminals), the other seven were clearly divided by type of activity: extortion, murder, explosives, wiretapping, and so on. Moreover, the bandits who were part of them did not know what their colleagues were doing. Only the leader held all the strings in his hands. It was possible to get into the community only on recommendation, they took not just anyone, but good athletes who somehow showed themselves in competitions, or people who had connections in law enforcement agencies or those close to power circles. It was only possible to leave the group “with your feet forward,” as Mikhail himself declared to his subordinates.
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 13 July 2020 16: 37
    +6
    It would be better if this S. Markov was silent, since his thought is contradictory and not clear. And the fact that the authorities use it to discredit the protest of their pocket liberals is not the first time. Everything is very simple, we take a fighter for everything good and against everything bad, we make a little hero out of him, a little martyr. Then we dump a bucket of dirt on him, creating an unsightly character out of him for the majority of the population of our country. And then we use it as an inhibitor to control the protest movement.
  • VIP
    VIP 13 July 2020 16: 40
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: Svarog
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

    Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

    It happens, but not everyone believes laughing

    Or do not want to believe
  • U-58
    U-58 13 July 2020 16: 51
    +7
    So why be surprised?
    Irkutsk governor removed from the Communist Party. And the pretext is kind of specious. Khabarovsk from the liberals removed.
    The ruling party feverishly and sweatily cleans the battlefield for its further unpunished (so far) power.
    Again, the results of the "approval" of the amendments untie the hands of the people.
    Nevertheless, the time is coming when even the most foolish voter will understand that his voice is not a grain of sand and decides a lot, that he must go to all kinds of elections and cast his vote not on TV, but according to his mind and his will.
  • flicker
    flicker 13 July 2020 16: 56
    -2
    Khabarovsk protest was very unexpected for everyone
    But not for the people of Timofeev and Furgal.
    Mikhail Timofeev (former assistant to Furgal in the State Duma) is one of the most sinister figures in the criminal history of the Far Eastern capital.
    In the criminal environment of the regional center, he is called the "lawless".
    Investigators, talking about him, mentioned the following fact - the PDN inspector turned to the internal security service of the UMVD with a request for protection. His son, who worked as a security guard in one of the structures and caused disorder at the facility entrusted to him, "Timofeyevtsy" issued a bill, and much more than the damage caused. They came home, threatened with bats, set fire to the apartment. However, when the inspector was asked to speak at the trial, he flatly refused. Absolutely no. Other witnesses for the prosecution, once part of the group, were so carefully hidden that a teleconference had to be organized in court to hear their testimony.

    What is this power?
    It is still unknown, for example, exactly how many people were members of organized crime groups. Experts call only an approximate figure - about 300 people. All this thanks to the strictest conspiracy that reigned in the criminal community. No names - just nicknames or, as Mikhail Timofeev said, call signs

    ---
    And now to the rally.
    This force brought most of it to the rally.
    Timofeev is still sitting, and the rest are free, many have their own business, the number of their workers is in the thousands. Like, you won’t go to the rally, you’ll be fired, we’ll grimace your business and so on.
    ---
    If you look at the protesters, you can see how many shoot everything that happens on the phone (which is not news now).
    All this is necessary in order to prove to their employers and the "roof" personal participation in the rally for the "freedom of Furgal" and thereby avoid dismissal.
    Another category: traders and individual entrepreneurs - for participating in the rally received a weekly exemption from the "tax" from their protectors.
    The presence of such video evidence of participation in the rally on Saturday allowed many not to participate in the rally on Sunday.
    ---
    That is why the numbers of the participants are so different on the first and second day.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 13 July 2020 17: 11
      +6
      One thing is interesting, why did Furgal walk for so long in freedom? He shot people in the 20th century, they remembered that he shot at 21, when he became a guber ..? Why didn’t they plant it before ...
      1. flicker
        flicker 13 July 2020 18: 30
        -5
        One thing is interesting, why did Furgal walk for so long in freedom?

        He is featured as the customer of the murders of competitors in 2004-2005. Those. in the 21st century.
        Why just now?
        There are times when you know for sure that someone is a thief, but you cannot prove it. For example, you left your watch in your office and went out, someone came in and went out, no one else came in. Then you came in and found that the clock had "drifted away". The suspect "someone" was detained, searched and found nothing.
        In fact, you are sure that he is a thief, but you can’t prove it.
        ---
        And then suddenly evidence appears (video, a watch was found from him, a witness, etc.).
        ---
        when he became a guber

        The first option is chance.
        But it seems to me that there are other reasons.
        The whole history of his governorship is rather strange.
        He, like, before the second round was ready to accept the offer from Sport (by the way, the relations between them are friendly) and lead the government. And not just ready, but also agreed.
        And then suddenly everything was replayed and Furgal decided to fight for governorship (they report that Zhirinovsky recommended). Plus Sport (read edro) frankly merged.
        ----
        The impression that who drove Furgal into the dark.
        ----
        Someone decided TRANSFER TO (!!!) governorship in an important Far East region in the hands of crime.
        Further, Furgal turned to its fullest - the LDPR won the local elections, all Furgal's "friends", that is. unofficial, criminal force began to receive legalization.
        ---
        Who knows, perhaps Furgal was encouraged to seek the creation of an independent Far East republic and probably he was not opposed. Moreover, during self-isolation, he felt the fullness of freedom that a separate republic will give him.
        But, this is IMHO.
        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 13 July 2020 19: 24
          0
          "but you can't prove it" or you don't want to. Tvkoe also happens
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 13 July 2020 19: 30
        -2
        One thing is interesting, why did Furgal walk for so long in freedom?

        Evidence was collected. Watch the series Criminal Russia. Sometimes it takes 20 years or more to search for a criminal.
  • VIP
    VIP 13 July 2020 16: 59
    0
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    True, the first shots were made by provocateurs from the crowd at the troops. Yeah: the then Khodorkovsky bulk.

    They can do it now. They have the highest power on the people. What authorities, what by this.
    Only these are two times worse: they pretend that they love the people.
  • Revival
    Revival 13 July 2020 17: 01
    +2
    A "well-known Russian political scientist" with such a speech is worthless.
    They are warm and cold, dry and wet.
    This or that or one of two things will happen ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 13 July 2020 17: 09
    10
    Quote: Clever man
    What do you think people would marry as a killer and a thief?

    And you think, how did he serve as a deputy, and governor in detail advertised his past? Yes, he did something for the good of the Khabarovsk people, only they saw that. Negativity can be hidden here. Just a question to the Moscow authorities - HOW 15 YEARS, the alleged killer "rotated" in the highest state administration,? .. The governor is not a deputy of the district Mokrodrischensk!
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 17: 39
    -7
    Quote: Corona without virus
    100 people - sorry - I do not believe !!!

    Sorry !!! If you don’t believe - then don’t believe !!! I personally did not count the people, but the crowd walked back and forth, and the characters with cameras ran 10 times faster than the crowd along the same route, although it might not have been 100 people, but 105 or even 106 !!! But the thousands were not EXACTLY. When we have a full "Erofei" -arena (10) going to hockey with a ball, there are really a LOT of people, and on these, so to speak "protests" the people walked the streets freely without interfering with each other. When there are thousands of people, it is SEEABLE, this is on the day of the city or on May 000, so there is nowhere for an apple to fall in the center of the city, but here the trams falling from the sky would not catch people.
  • fif21
    fif21 13 July 2020 18: 51
    +1
    Russia lives according to Zon's concepts, Mr. Makarov! And in the zones there is a riot when a thief is pinched. And "from the hands" of the governor a lot of people feed themselves and not only in Khabarovsk. And you are a surprise! wassat
  • silverura
    silverura 13 July 2020 18: 53
    0
    Sergey Markov: Khabarovsk protest was very unexpected for everyone

    Everything is corny simple! Everyone is tired of the current lawlessness. What was sown, then we reap (:
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 13 July 2020 18: 55
    -2
    Maydaunism = it is a modern profession hourly pay, a paradise for parasites
    The same order with hourly pay as in Ukraine. They only pay more - with a "regional coefficient". To the envy of professional ukroprotestuns with hourly pay.
    No creativity. The price tag for the services of ukrimitigavnyukov was recently for a Ukrainian. media

    Such "boys / girls on call" have already developed the technology of livestock collection, payment and prepayment. Which color are they trying to brew?

    Effectively pay for money and sales to teletubbies - the crowd will believe the picture and bullshit
    We call a spade a spade: the bandits-accomplices paid for "activiZDOV"
    1. silverura
      silverura 13 July 2020 19: 21
      -5
      Maydaunism = it is a modern profession hourly pay, a paradise for parasites

      Times are changing and the name of the profession
      also!
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 13 July 2020 19: 03
    -1
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin.
    And I think that if we had a really honest poll, then a maximum of 10-15 percent would vote for the CERTAINLY.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 13 July 2020 19: 31
      10
      Indeed, it is not clear against what and for what they are protesting ... Everything is stable here. How can you protest against "stability" .....
      1. silverura
        silverura 13 July 2020 19: 53
        +1
        Indeed, it is not clear against what and for what they are protesting ... Everything is stable here. How can you protest against "stability" .....

        The whole essence of the problem of the current country on the ground in one photo! Without sarcasm.
        \
        1. cradle
          cradle 15 July 2020 05: 26
          0
          among the Chinese, during this time, China did not fall apart, if cho ... ah ...
  • hroft
    hroft 13 July 2020 19: 45
    10
    The most interesting thing is that on TV in general it is silent about the rallies, although the people there, as on the Immortal regiment, were pulled by cops from other regions
    1. silverura
      silverura 13 July 2020 20: 13
      -1
      The most interesting thing is that on TV in general it is silent about the rallies, although the people there, as on the Immortal regiment, were pulled by cops from other regions

      And who needs extra noise? Well it is necessary to rise from warm chairs once again;)
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 13 July 2020 20: 54
    -3
    But when “professional revolutionaries” from the Navalny and Khodorkovsky camps joined him at the end of the event and tried to send a protest in the anti-Putin direction they needed, the people did not follow them

    It is not for nothing that the pro-Putin 5th column is eating bread, how quickly the objectionable protest against the authorities was stopped. It seems to Mr. Navalny that the extraordinary rank and order are ensured, just along with the Guarantors they will drink for a successful operation
  • iouris
    iouris 13 July 2020 22: 34
    0
    "Political scientists" eat up the Russian Federation and do not notice.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 06
    +2
    Sergey Markov: Khabarovsk protest was very unexpected for everyone
    What a "fresh" thought .... wassat
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 11
    +1
    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    It happens, but not everyone believes

    I wonder how many people have understood the Mystery of the Third Planet reference?

    And the Russian Federation, in your opinion on a third planet? lol
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 20
    +2
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: Clever man
    Do you know many governors who marry 30 thousand people as one? What do you think people would marry as a killer and a thief?

    I remember the 90s and the "zero" (at the regional level), when the lads organized "popular support" during the elections, for "one and two!" And this, with those only emerging political technologies.

    Well, your "lads" have now acquired an external gloss, banks, offices-mofises, tuxedos, translators from English, and other languages, well, all other related accessories of the present time .... Only the goals and objectives have not changed, and they are mainly solved not with the help of ... one-shot specialists, but with the use of modern "law enforcement" technologies. sad
    P.S. And it is very difficult to distinguish in them - this is an official of various levels, or an ordinary "bruise", although in my opinion these are the same persons who play according to their own bandit rules from the 90s, which many here remember, but just not understand that they are going on .... sad
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 29
    +1
    Quote: Thunderbringer
    Another break in the pattern among activists of the struggle.

    Do you even understand this phrase yourself, or the main thing is to "sparkle" with a word? lol
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 43
    +1
    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    Quote: Svarog
    Funny .. against BUT FOR Putin .. it doesn’t happen ..

    You sincerely hoped, finally! - numerous and lengthy protests? Again the wrong people? Or again intimidated?

    Flavius ​​Vespasianovich, why are you so modest, can be called more honestly and loudly (many, anyway, many know) - Gai Yulievich Caesar, aka Moysha, aka ... Publius Ovid Nazon. lol Do you like ancient history? But seriously, you confused something with something - those in power believe that the people are not the same. In my opinion, the guarantor himself is having difficulty restraining himself from declaring this. sad
  • Radikal
    Radikal 13 July 2020 23: 49
    +3
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    True, the first shots were made by provocateurs from the crowd at the troops. Yeah: the then Khodorkovsky bulk.

    In Vilnius - in 1991, and in Moscow - in 1993, did they shoot at the fighters of group "A"? sad
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 23: 59
      -1
      Quote: Radikal
      in Moscow - in 1993 they shot at the fighters of group "A"?

      They are the most. It is good that Shoigu handed out submachine guns to conscious citizens, all the bastards were put out.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 13 July 2020 23: 52
    -8
    "Sergey Markov: The Khabarovsk protest was very unexpected for everyone"
    -------
    But the consistent harassment by the liberals of Judge Khakhaleva is the expected regular process in all liberal media ...
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 14 July 2020 00: 00
    +4
    It is sooo interesting for me as a resident of the Khabarovsk Territory to read what they think of us, those who only know where this region is from the map. All the rallies and rallies are called the Furgala regiment here. Yesterday Trutnev carried such heresy in Khabarovsk that there are simply no words. The inheritance from Shport was "great." before the arrival of Furgal. With his arrival, at least something began to change not in words.
    1. cradle
      cradle 14 July 2020 04: 42
      +1
      was in Khabarovsk in 2014-2017 and even then there were decent roads .... without Furgal somehow ...
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  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 14 July 2020 07: 10
    -1
    In Khabarovsk there are really people for their governor and everyone is unhappy with actions against the governor. And any protest with us, as is customary, is quickly suppressed by riot police, the National Guard, etc. With the help of dirty technologies, Navalny is pulled here)) only therefore it is untouchable, it is profitable to hold it)
  • demo
    demo 14 July 2020 07: 43
    +2
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin. Strongly against the government, but strongly for Russia. Therefore, there will be no Khabarovsk Maidan, it ended, barely starting.

    "Professional liar" is a diagnosis.
    Especially if for your lie and money, and fame, and the opportunity to receive preferences from the state.
    This is how to say - the Board of Directors is mediocrity and parasites, and the Chairman of the Council is Golova, Umnitsa, Svetoch.
    The chairman, the poor fellow, beats like a fish on ice, and these parasites all his great undertakings either into the sand or into the toilet!

    Russia-without Putin will not be lost.
    Putin comes and goes, but Russia remains.
    If only the people not only in Khabarovsk began to see clearly.
    And the speech guboshlepov, such as Markov and similar hangers-on from the breech trough, ceased to be perceived as truth.
    All that these "sweet voices" do is the work of professional scoundrels.
    1. Petrik66
      Petrik66 15 July 2020 14: 42
      0
      Putin is already history and the future of our country (so it will be clearer to you). don't bother. We have power and not the worst, all the more so, we have someone to compare with: Yeltsin, Trump, Obama, all the French, well, friend Bush, the youngest, the rest, I'm sorry, I don’t remember anyone in Germany ....
      1. demo
        demo 15 July 2020 15: 16
        0
        I did not understand your answer.
        Where am I / we, and where is Trump, Obama, All French Together with Bush Jr.?
        Ie in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev uncle?
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 14 July 2020 12: 35
    0
    Quote: 72jora72
    The people in Khabarovsk are strongly against government policy, but for Putin.
    And I think that if we had a really honest poll, then a maximum of 10-15 percent would vote for the CERTAINLY.

    It depends on where to conduct the survey and how to formulate it. On the site, among, entrepreneurs, among young people and among EP. There will be different numbers everywhere. I already convinced myself of this
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 14 July 2020 12: 55
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    In columns, masked youth with flags of the FAR EAST

    And what does the flag of the Far East look like? All my life I have been living in the Far East, but I have heard about such a flag FOR THE FIRST TIME !!!
  • Li17
    Li17 15 July 2020 05: 55
    0
    Quote: Snail N9
    PS: In the photo, girls and women are happy that they are provided with work.

    They rob job of fitness trainers!
  • fider
    fider 15 July 2020 13: 26
    0
    Why is the media so fond of this eccentric? As a politician, he is nothing. And he always speaks out of place.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 15 July 2020 14: 37
    0
    Well, finally, there was that person, as we were told - an authoritative (among where?), Who lucidly explained to us what was being done there in Khabarovsk. One question = and if Molotov were not the grandfather of this professional talker, would he also be authoritative?