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The military laid more than 50 km of the pipeline in the Crimea

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The military laid more than 50 km of the pipeline in the Crimea

The military personnel of the pipeline troops of the Southern and Western military districts laid more than 50 kilometers of the pipeline that will connect the Taigan and Simferopol reservoirs in the Crimea, work continues. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.


Logistics units of the Southern and Western military districts laid more than 50 kilometers of the pipeline in one line, which will connect the Taigan and Simferopol reservoirs in the Republic of Crimea

- said in a statement.

The military department explained that the laying of the pipeline continues, mobile pumping stations will be used to supply water through it. The pipeline will ensure the transfer of about 50 thousand cubic meters of water per day from Belogorsky district to Simferopol.


In total, more than 300 military personnel and about 140 units of special and construction equipment are involved in the laying of the pipeline. The first train with equipment arrived in Crimea on Saturday, July 11th.

Earlier, the leadership of the Republic of Crimea appealed to the military department. According to the head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, due to the drought in Simferopol, "a certain water shortage has formed."

At the beginning of 2020, many reservoirs in the Crimea became shallow. The most tense situation due to the lack of precipitation has developed in Simferopol, the Crimean capital authorities have developed a schedule for water supply to the population in case of "special need", but at the moment it has not been introduced. Aksyonov called the current year one of the driest for the peninsula over the past half century.
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  1. Karaul73
    Karaul73 13 July 2020 12: 20 New
    -19
    Have you tried to solve the water problem globally?
    And for the military, good training.
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 12: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: Sentry73
      Have you tried to solve the water problem globally?

      and this is your temporary measure? belay , or do you want to enter Ukraine and open the Dnieper sections?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 July 2020 13: 13 New
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        Quote: Tiksi-3
        and this is your temporary measure?

        With the declared pumping volume, there will be enough water for 6-7 months, alas ... hi
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 13 July 2020 14: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        Do you want to enter Ukraine and open the Dnieper sections?
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 14: 35 New
          +4
          what I wanted to write something?
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 13 July 2020 14: 44 New
            0
            To blame ... Downstairs wrote ...
      3. snucerist
        snucerist 13 July 2020 14: 36 New
        -18
        We want to solve an elementary arithmetic problem.
        How many people will such a pipeline make life easier?
        The smallest family of 2 people consumes at least 5-6 cubes per month in order to exist normally.
        Divide 50000 cubes by 6, we get 8333 and 3 in the period. In total, 16666,6 people will make the pipeline happy.
        Now we recall that the population of Crimea on January 1, 2020 was 2361760 people. We solve a simple proportion and find out that such a measure will make happy as much as 0,706% of the Crimean population.
        Less than 1%.
        So the quite reasonable question is asked: why the problem is not solved globally?
        Are there any actions that even do not give a drop in the sea?
        In fact, this is just window dressing and blurring of the eyes.
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 13 July 2020 15: 04 New
          23
          50 thousand cubic meters per day, dear. And this water should not be divided by the entire population of the republic, but by the number of residents of Simferopol. Repeat your calculations and publish here again! I assure you, everything will not look so dramatic.
          1. snucerist
            snucerist 13 July 2020 15: 24 New
            -8
            Yes, my mistake, I admit, the situation is a little more optimistic.
            But not really.
            If we accept for truth the recent words of Aksenov “The dynamics for July and August rolls over. Given the fact that foreign resorts are closed, many went to the Republic of Crimea today. In terms of quantity these months we will exceed the figures for July-August compared to last year. "
            And if you take on faith his own words that in 2019 over 7 million tourists had a rest in Crimea. All 7 million, but not only rested in July-August, but the main stream fell during these months. If we add 2361760 people permanently residing in Crimea to it, then 50000 cubes per day do not make weather and do not save the situation.
            The question is the same - where is the global solution to the problem?
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ 13 July 2020 15: 33 New
              +9
              You are good fellows - you got out ... Tourists in Simferopol usually travel (from an hour to a day maximum), 50 thousand cubic meters per day, per month 1500 thousand, divided by 450-500 thousand inhabitants of Simferopol and transit tourists - as a result of which about 3 cubic meters OPTIONAL for each simferopolets. There is water in the reservoirs, but it is not enough for the normal consumption of the city ...
            2. Errr
              Errr 13 July 2020 16: 01 New
              +9
              The daily water consumption of Simferopol is 160 thousand cubic meters (https://ria.ru/20200708/1574061542.html). Proceeding from this, 50 thousand cubic meters is a considerable help in a difficult situation, almost a third of the water consumed by the city.
              1. Magog
                Magog 13 July 2020 17: 00 New
                +1
                It turns out that a good "temporary" solution was found in the Crimea. Let us hope that such arid conditions will not be repeated soon in the future, and that the problem of water supply will still be thoroughly solved.
                1. Errr
                  Errr 13 July 2020 17: 12 New
                  +2
                  Hope is a reassuring woman, they even say that there will be no one to bury her. laughing
                  But seriously, a plastic well-buried aqueduct from the lower reaches of the Don to the Crimean coast would be extremely desirable. As the saying goes, hope for the weather, but don’t be sick.
                  1. Magog
                    Magog 13 July 2020 17: 33 New
                    0
                    And the Kuban is worse? And the bottom is only the strait required.
                    1. Errr
                      Errr 13 July 2020 17: 52 New
                      -1
                      In the Kuban, little water in the low water is not enough. And the pipe to the spit Chushka, for example, can also be packed in a land trench (laid on land). As an option.
                2. ccsr
                  ccsr 13 July 2020 23: 31 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Magog
                  Let us hope that such arid conditions will not be repeated soon in the future, and that the problem of water supply will still be thoroughly solved.

                  Today in Kerch and Feodosia there were showers, and rainfall was not so little for the summer period. Do you think at least somewhere in the steppe Crimea rainfall has been set up in the form of special storage facilities where rainwater would flow? This work was stopped in the sixties, after the construction of the canal and a large number of artesian wells were plugged in about 30 in Kerch. In general, the Crimean authorities will whine for a long time, but they won’t get their hands on the old-time methods of collecting water - I already understood that.
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 14 July 2020 10: 47 New
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                    back to the old-fashioned methods .... it’s Chel dig wells ... yes, nevermind .... the issue of watering has long been decided .... the well costs about 2000 if you twist it yourself. if the arbeiters then 300 rubles a meter plus 2000 thousand, if the drillers hire 2000 rubles a meter. why I dragged drillers. because we don’t have rocks in the steppes. You can dig yourself 20 meters without straining. exactly like arbeiteromi. but closer to the foothills there can’t do without drillers. Yes, and you need to beat the well at least 60 meters (in our steppes it’s almost an artesian) ..... and so the problem is solved with water ... a reserve is being pulled into Symph and only ..... or someone thinks like Western genders that Crimea at once became like the whole "unwashed Russia"? you are deeply mistaken, in the Crimea baths are an integral part of culture, as well as throughout Russia
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 14 July 2020 12: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      back to the old-fashioned methods .... it's Chel dig wells ...

                      Beams are blocked and dams are built so that the water does not go into the sea but is collected in ponds. And make sure that these reservoirs do not overgrow with reeds, and there is a water exchange. However, I’m telling you this, you obviously didn’t live in Crimea in the 50s and 60s, which’s why this is a curiosity for you.
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      in Crimea, baths are an integral part of the culture, as throughout Russia

                      Stop bending - the city baths have long been destroyed, and if there is somewhere they are small, because almost everyone has bathtubs or showers in their houses. You are in what Crimean wilderness you live - just interesting to know.
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 14 July 2020 17: 44 New
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                        beams, yes, ........ yes, there are enough wells .. as far as I can remember, all the water supply in the district was from an artesian ... the water from the canal was only on collective farms and state farms. when they broke up, buying it from a water utility was expensive for a private trader. according to this, it all merged into Sivash, at the moment the irrigation canals are muffled. water flows only for the needs of Feodosia and Kerch. and even that is sluggish judging by the stream
                        ..in what Crimean wilderness ...... yes not a question. from near Dzhankoy, to be more precise, from the Nizhny Novgorod region, we are called steppe-children of reeds .. and the Severokrymsky canal is nearby, 3 km if in a straight line, by the way, Karasevka (Uch-Karasu to be more precise) was turned into a canal. there is still real estate in the backwater Koktebel, there really is strained with water. although this has been straining since the days of the USSR, but the Winchester and brandy have not stopped there since the days of the USSR, pouring over glasses .... well, something like this
            3. Senka naughty
              Senka naughty 13 July 2020 16: 08 New
              -2
              The question is the same - where is the global solution to the problem?
              In Ukraine ..
              And if you want to monitor the water supply processes in Crimea, then they happen, but not on this site. Google has information on the net.
              This news, about emergency measures, in connection with the dry season, no more.
          2. An64
            An64 13 July 2020 16: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: Magog_
            50 thousand cubic meters per day, dear

            A very big number. Judging by the photo, they are laying PMTP-150. According to its characteristics, such a pipeline pumps up to 3 thousand cubic meters. per day (https://pmtp.su/pmtp-150-sborno-razbornye-truboprovody.html). I don’t think ten pipelines are being laid there ...
            1. Magog
              Magog 13 July 2020 17: 43 New
              0
              It can be understood that “more than 50 km” of pipes were laid in total, removing water from various sources of the Belogorsky district. Otherwise, it’s risky - there is nothing to do with dill, they can undermine in one place - and the alley, the garage!
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 16: 23 New
          0
          Quote: snucerist
          The smallest family of 2 people consumes at least 5-6 cubes per month,

          Well nadozhe .... spend 5-6 tons of water .... the three of me live and a maximum of 2 tons leaves
          Quote: snucerist
          So the quite reasonable question is asked: why the problem is not solved globally?

          globally - this is to open the Dnieper, the rest is temporary! since it is connected with hydrogeology, I can assure you that there has always been very little water in the Crimea! and from the point of view of engineering hydrogeology - this problem is practically not solved, you can put a don into a pipe and lay it on the peninsula - but this is nonsense, many people think that it is possible to build desalination plants - I will answer so that you can fly to the moon, but no one flies ....understandably?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 17: 12 New
            -5
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            I three live and a maximum of 2 tons leaves

            Remove the magnet from the counter.
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 17: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Remove the magnet from the counter.

              do you judge others by yourself?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 17: 52 New
                -4
                No, I have antimagnetic. It’s interesting to me how many times a month you take a bath for three, or do you wash the dishes?
                1. Tiksi-3
                  Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 18: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  It’s interesting to me how many times a month you take a bath for three,

                  a maximum of 1 time, since we all go to the sports club every day in the evening (pool + treadmill + bath + shower), the dishwasher cleans the dishes once a day in the evening
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 21: 12 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Tiksi-3
                    we all go together every day to the sports club in the evening (pool + treadmill + bath + shower), the dishwasher cleans the dishes once a day in the evening

                    Are you all serious? Now increase all your expenses for a bath, a pool, a shower.
                    1. Tiksi-3
                      Tiksi-3 14 July 2020 12: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Now increase all your expenses for a bath, a pool, a shower.

                      I have a corporate card, so we go virtually free
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 14 July 2020 19: 50 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tiksi-3
                        I have a corporate card, so we go virtually free

                        Stumble. But the corporation, it turns out, does not pay?
                      2. Tiksi-3
                        Tiksi-3 15 July 2020 10: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        But the corporation, it turns out, does not pay?

                        Taxes? laughing .... I have a 60% discount, so everything is OK! I convinced you that the consumption of hot water and hot water can be 2-3 tons / month, even for three people living and even without a card, such a charge can be, because actually last summer I had 0.8t hot water + hot water 2.1 tn-bath + 1.4 t I didn’t go to the kitchen every day and there was always a son at home
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 15 July 2020 10: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tiksi-3
                        I convinced you that the consumption of hot water and hot water can be 2-3 tons / month,

                        By itself. If I swim in the pond and wash my socks in the same place, then naturally, my counter at home will wind less.
                      4. Tiksi-3
                        Tiksi-3 15 July 2020 13: 49 New
                        0
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        If I swim in the pond and wash my socks in the same place, then naturally, my counter at home will wind less.

                        belay what negative -
                        Quote: Tiksi-3
                        even three people living and even without a card may have such a cost, since in fact last summer I had hot water from 0.8 tons + cold water 2.1 tons-bath + 1.4 tons and I didn’t go to the gym every day and there was always a son at home
          2. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 18: 04 New
            0
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            No, I have antimagnetic

            no such water
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      4. Magog
        Magog 13 July 2020 17: 47 New
        +3
        While you are rubbing soap and shampooing your beloved or rubbing your teeth with a brush in the morning, you can turn off the water and not pour in vain!
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 17: 56 New
          -3
          Quote: Magog
          or rub your teeth in the morning with a brush, you can turn off the water and not pour in vain!

          And kaput column if you turn it on and off every minute. By the way, such a problem did not exist in the USSR, my favorite pastime was to sit in the bath in the evenings for a couple of hours a night.
          1. Magog
            Magog 13 July 2020 20: 18 New
            +1
            If the geyser heats water. then in addition to the bath, a standard storage water heater can be filled with warm water. There would be a place to install it! Heated water remains hot or warm for up to two days! I give away the idea for nothing. negative
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 21: 08 New
              -2
              Quote: Magog
              Heated water remains hot or warm for up to two days! I give away the idea for nothing.

              I'd rather stick the bath with mounting foam so that it does not cool down, infection. You can use the idea.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 13 July 2020 23: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                I'd rather stick the bath with mounting foam so that it does not cool down, infection. You can use the idea.

                Why foam, if decent bathtubs are supplied with self-adhesive materials in the form of rectangular plates, which just keep the heat of the water. So your idea is not new - I came across this eight years ago, a perfectly reasonable decision.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 23: 38 New
                  -1
                  Quote: ccsr
                  if they supply decent baths

                  Well, then I have an indecent bath. wink
                2. your1970
                  your1970 14 July 2020 10: 45 New
                  +1
                  first car vibration isolation and then Shumka. relatively inexpensive, simple and noticeably quiet and warm
  2. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 14 July 2020 11: 06 New
    0
    in Crimea .... this problem cannot be solved ..... even as it is solved. moreover, it’s solved .... I printed a post there from above. read ..... well, so if it’s interesting to you, how will the hydrogeological engineer tell you how and what is happening here in the steppes and in general
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 14: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    and this is your temporary measure?

    It is temporary.
    mobile pumping stations will be used to supply water through it. The pipeline will ensure the transfer of about 50 thousand cubic meters of water per day from Belogorsky district to Simferopol.
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 13 July 2020 16: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      It is temporary.

      you are well done. what do you think so - give 1 example of a constant?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 17: 09 New
        -3
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        give 1 example of a constant

        Cited below.
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker 13 July 2020 15: 25 New
    0
    It is also an option bully
  • aglet
    aglet 13 July 2020 21: 33 New
    -1
    "and this is your temporary measure?"
    and what, those reservoirs are bottomless?
  • credo
    credo 13 July 2020 12: 41 New
    +3
    Quote: Sentry73
    Have you tried to solve the water problem globally?
    And for the military, good training.

    Why pour over from empty to empty times there is such an expert and specialist like you.
    Go for it if you have a simple and inexpensive solution to this issue.
    Otherwise, you can easily make a line of sofa advisers and no more.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 13 July 2020 13: 32 New
      10
      Quote: credo
      Why pour over from empty to empty times there is such an expert and specialist like you.
      Go for it if you have a simple and inexpensive solution to this issue.
      Otherwise, you can easily make a line of sofa advisers and no more

      What people attacked, correctly says. In Crimea 283 rivers, it is necessary to build reservoirs, to master the technology of desalination, drip irrigation, to plan and introduce a culture of consumption and this is all on a global scale
      1. Andobor
        Andobor 13 July 2020 13: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: APASUS
        There are 283 rivers in Crimea; reservoirs must be built

        In Crimea, water leakages of up to 70% in distribution pipelines haven’t changed since Soviet times, and they won’t change quickly, military measures are a temporary solution, and the networks need to be changed.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 13 July 2020 15: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Andobor
          In Crimea, water leakages of up to 70% in distribution pipelines have not changed since Soviet times,

          ===
          and not only in the Crimea, here the volume of work in the cities of the country is endless. and it’s heard from the screens, there the local authorities didn’t master it, they didn’t have time there, they didn’t start there, it’s not intended use
      2. credo
        credo 13 July 2020 14: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: APASUS
        Quote: credo
        Why pour over from empty to empty times there is such an expert and specialist like you.
        Go for it if you have a simple and inexpensive solution to this issue.
        Otherwise, you can easily make a line of sofa advisers and no more

        What people attacked, correctly says. In Crimea 283 rivers, it is necessary to build reservoirs, to master the technology of desalination, drip irrigation, to plan and introduce a culture of consumption and this is all on a global scale

        Nobody attacked anyone, this time.
        As for the measures you have listed, no one is going to argue here, only everything that you mentioned can be done immediately and not in an instant, but only for a dozen years, given the inheritance left in Crimea, after there dominated by Ukraine. Enormous funds are required for all this work, but only Crimea is not the only region in Russia, and therefore we also extend legs for clothes, and not "globally" in one region.
    2. DPN
      DPN 13 July 2020 14: 19 New
      0
      Zhirinovsky has long given an answer to YOUR question.
  • iouris
    iouris 13 July 2020 13: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: Sentry73
    And globally

    “Globally” is not about us, therefore, only locally (“It is better, of course, to torment yourself” (comrade Sukhov)).
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 13 July 2020 15: 00 New
    +5
    Quote: Sentry73
    Have you tried to solve the water problem globally?

    In addition to tryndet, offers? They plan a water conduit from the Kuban, but it takes time. Desalination plants at the present stage disappear due to a lack of electricity. The bombing of the dam on the North Crimean Canal is a full-scale war with Ukraine and a bunch of Svidomo feces and poison in the canal. Why are you not happy with this, albeit temporary solution to the problem? request
    1. aglet
      aglet 13 July 2020 22: 15 New
      +1
      "The water pipeline from the Kuban is planned, but it takes time"
      from Taman to Kerch - 4 km. and no Denmark will veto. northern stream, if - 1234 km.
  • Echelon
    Echelon 13 July 2020 12: 29 New
    +4
    Judging by the photo, this is PMTP-200, their laying speed is pretty fast. It is only important to understand how PSGs will be installed in the territories.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 13 July 2020 13: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: Echelon
      Judging by the photo, this is PMTP-200, their laying speed is pretty fast

      Good thing ПМТБ 200: installation speed from 4 km (manual installation) to 12 km per day.

      And disassemble is also not a problem ...

      The summer, apparently, is really arid and the situation is tense, once the MO is connected.

      Apparently, it is necessary to switch to desalination of sea water faster, IMHO.

      In Israel, in my opinion, 80% of fresh water is from desalination plants.
      1. Echelon
        Echelon 13 July 2020 13: 22 New
        +2
        I watched the video again, it's still PMTP-150. We have large stocks of them. And their performance is higher. Abbreviation PMTP - Field Main Pipeline of Increased Productivity. 150 - average diameter of the pipe.
      2. Andobor
        Andobor 13 July 2020 13: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Olgovich
        Apparently, it is necessary to switch to desalination of sea water faster, IMHO.

        Distribution networks need to be changed - leaks up to 70%, and no desalination is needed.
      3. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 July 2020 14: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: Olgovich
        In Israel, in my opinion, 80% of fresh water is from desalination plants.

        True, but desalination is expensive. And these 80 percent are drinking water. For agriculture, we recycle nearly 90 percent of wastewater. It took years to create such a system. Crimea needs a momentary solution. He was found and embodied in this way.
        Of course, desalination is indispensable. We have to create a comprehensive system: energy / desalination / wastewater treatment / saving. If you start today, then with the correct formulation of the question, it will be possible to significantly advance in 2,5-3 years. In any case, the selling price of such water will be significantly higher than just filtered water from the river. You need to be prepared for this.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 13 July 2020 23: 40 New
          -1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Of course, desalination is indispensable.

          You do not confuse Crimea with Israel - here even in summer cities constantly suffer from heavy rains and even Simferopol floods, not to mention sea cities. So the question is the collection of precipitation, and not the desalination of sea water or some other.
      4. Victorio
        Victorio 13 July 2020 15: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: Olgovich
        In Israel, in my opinion, 80% of fresh water is from desalination plants.

        ===
        back in the 70s in the city of shevchenko, the kaz.ssr launched a nuclear reactor, and with it a desalination plant. but this is a city, albeit an industrial one, and here a whole peninsula. I remember in the kitchen the tap water is cold - it’s drinking, and hot and cold in the bathroom and toilet are also fresh, but the other is technical, the city was young, beautiful, the whole country was building. pipes were laid almost everywhere in the streets to irrigate greenery.

        ps for was to write, the most offensive that this city, built by the union and from scratch, was renamed in its own way by the new Kazakh elite. and instead of shevchenko he became the city of Aktau.
  • gridasov
    gridasov 13 July 2020 12: 39 New
    0
    Already about ten, we are positioning a new method of desalination through cavitation. And since cavitation is associated with heat conversion processes, this is simultaneously the possibility of obtaining energy in the form of an alternating magnetic flux generated. Moreover, considering the technology and the device works on the principle of increasing efficiency with increasing device dimension. The technology is fundamentally different from filtration and reverse osmosis and evaporation disciliation. The performance of such devices can satisfy any need for fresh water.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 13 July 2020 13: 18 New
      +1
      Gridasov, do not stick to someone else's glory and do not powder people’s brains.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 July 2020 13: 26 New
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        Maybe you even know then how to make the flow self-pushing, following the example of Sagov. But I'm talking about the Laval nozzle with additional functions that make it more efficient by an order of magnitude. Therefore, I am only talking about what you and others do not know at all.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 13 July 2020 14: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: gridasov
          Therefore, I am only talking about what you and others do not know at all.

          laughing There is such a moment. But there are also nuances:
          1. There is no conversation here for desalination. At least for now.
          2. There was a problem that is solved as efficiently as possible in the shortest possible time.
          3. If you have the technology, why is it still not in the Crimea, and do not put it at the service of the national economy? request
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 13 July 2020 15: 22 New
            -4
            How do you imagine the opportunity to offer such solutions to people who are far from such a level of understanding and problems and solutions that can be applied. Why often I say that a mechanism is needed to find and implement solutions to overcome problems. But! there is such an aspect that is worth considering. The technology that we offer determines Russia's strategic priorities not only in key areas of energy and military aspects, but also in general in scientific areas of development to deep levels of prospects. Therefore, it is not for me to choose the priority of industries of key importance.
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 13 July 2020 14: 55 New
          0
          Gridasov, I even know who Zysin and Schauberger are. Therefore, I repeat - do not mess up people's brains.
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 13 July 2020 15: 24 New
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            I don’t think it’s worth in any way moving on to some sort of personal showdown. In this case, the level of discussion about the future of the Country
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 14: 50 New
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        Maybe you even know then how to make the flow self-pushing, following the example of Sagov. But I'm talking about the Laval nozzle with additional functions that make it more efficient by an order of magnitude.

        That’s it, Gridasov, Viktor Nikolayevich, ate you. crying
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 13 July 2020 15: 57 New
          0
          Crimea is often written in the region of eternal spring. I suggest planting a birch. He grows up, saw off a bit higher, put on a tube, and the water goes, oh no juice in the hut. laughing
          1. Cristall
            Cristall 13 July 2020 22: 31 New
            -4
            Quote: Free Wind
            Crimea is often written in the region of eternal spring.

            too hot and dry. Our Russian birch trees grow poorly. They always need brothers higher and farther south. Type of plane trees or acacias.
            In general, birches like latitude to the north.
            By the way, I never met them in the Crimea.
            Yes, and the industrial scale of production of birch sap requires something completely different.
            And note - trees are vertical pumps. They consume a lot of water.
    2. avg
      avg 13 July 2020 13: 33 New
      +1
      Already about ten, we are positioning a new method of desalination through cavitation.

      And what, what is the result? If possible, I would like to know in more detail.
    3. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 July 2020 15: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: gridasov
      methodology
      desalination through cavitation.

      I heard about this, but further than laboratory experiments, things have not progressed, there are still no industrial plants. They said that somewhere, at some enterprise, in some workshop they tested a laboratory installation ... If there were at least some significant results, they would have been trumpeted at every corner. hi
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 July 2020 15: 33 New
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        And you are very right! All decisions were carried out without understanding the key foundations and the process and the scale of the application. Therefore, I immediately make a reservation that the device is very simple, but radically new processes. The most important is precisely the aspects of understanding and justification of what we are dealing with. Therefore, I would raise the bar and say that we are not just considering the technology of desalination. We are talking about the technology of controlled transformation in general of any substances in various states of aggregation. We are talking about new methods of mathematical analysis of such processes. Consider not a single and particular analysis of the process, but algorithmically related and inextricable. And this is a technology for analyzing not only turbulent flows in an environment of liquids and gases. This is a technology for analyzing big data with differently dynamic, equally directed processes.
      2. paco.soto
        paco.soto 13 July 2020 23: 08 New
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        There is already on the Internet the experience of Siberian desalination scientists with 10-fold savings:
        The development of scientists of the Siberian Federal University will reduce the cost of drinking water by 10 times due to the reduction of energy costs for heating and the rejection of the use of chemical additives used in desalination. ©
        http://news.sfu-kras.ru/node/22278
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 14 July 2020 05: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: paco.soto
          There is already on the Internet the experience of Siberian desalination scientists with 10-fold savings:
          The development of scientists of the Siberian Federal University will reduce the cost of drinking water by 10 times due to the reduction of energy costs for heating and the rejection of the use of chemical additives used in desalination. ©
          http://news.sfu-kras.ru/node/22278

          There is a sacred number 10 twice. Have you noticed? In fact, she is here three times. For this development is already 10 years old ...
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 July 2020 12: 49 New
    +2
    Here, without any valakita and bureaucracy, our military builders are solving the problem of a whole region of the country!
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 14: 53 New
      -2
      Quote: Thrifty
      our military builders solve the problem of the whole region of the country!

      That is, they are pumped from half full to empty.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 July 2020 12: 49 New
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    In Afghanistan, the pipelines dragged the mains under the fuel, but here the nice thing is at home, but under the water. Good luck to the lads, water to the Russians of Crimea.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 13: 13 New
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    The only question is eating me ... what prevented this from being done in 2015? ...
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 13 July 2020 13: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Crown without virus
      The only question is eating me ... what prevented this from being done in 2015? ...

      - Rain and snow.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 13 July 2020 14: 25 New
        -1
        and in 2016? laughing
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 14: 58 New
          -6
          Quote: Crown without virus
          and in 2016?

          Listen, there they pump from one Crimean reservoir to another Crimean. For a long time, they could have connected them thoroughly with pipes, and pumped tudy-syud.
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          2. aglet
            aglet 13 July 2020 21: 37 New
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            "For a long time, they could have connected them thoroughly with pipes, and pumped tudy syuds
            it if there was something to download
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 21: 39 New
              0
              Quote: aglet
              it if there was something to download

              And what for then pipes are laid? Well, at least a little pump.
              1. aglet
                aglet 13 July 2020 21: 45 New
                0
                imitation of ebullient activity. 150 mm pipe for watering the Crimea? laughter, and only. Has anyone seen water conduits to supply even small towns? there we are talking about meters. and what pressure should there be for such a performance? pumping stations- per liter of water liter of diesel?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 21: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: aglet
                  150 mm pipe for watering the Crimea?

                  Yes, there is no flooding there, there is just pumping from one reservoir to another. 150 mm. - This is a type of country co-op swing about 5 kilograms of pressure.
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 13 July 2020 21: 51 New
                    +1
                    "150 mm. - This is a type of country co-op swing about 5 kilograms of pressure."
                    about identity
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 July 2020 22: 03 New
                      +1
                      Quote: aglet
                      about identity

                      And even then, a couple of dozen sites. If all their radishes are watered, the pressure drops, and no battalion of pipelines can do anything. crying
  • yfast
    yfast 13 July 2020 13: 17 New
    +2
    A large gas pipe along the bottom of the sea where they just did not reach. And then suddenly a drought suddenly. Already 6 years have passed, and you can lay a large pipe along the bottom. On the other hand, they provided electricity, dear too, so they will solve this problem.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 13 July 2020 13: 41 New
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: credo
    Why pour over from empty to empty times there is such an expert and specialist like you.
    Go for it if you have a simple and inexpensive solution to this issue.
    Otherwise, you can easily make a line of sofa advisers and no more

    What people attacked, correctly says. In Crimea 283 rivers, it is necessary to build reservoirs, to master the technology of desalination, drip irrigation, to plan and introduce a culture of consumption and this is all on a global scale

    You wrote it right. But unfortunately most narrow-minded couch experts do not understand this. The main thing is to hang out the flag and scream cheers somewhere to run. Ah, yes, and take more hats. To throw the enemy. And, apparently, they have completely forgotten how to think.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 13 July 2020 13: 45 New
    -2
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    Quote: Sentry73
    Have you tried to solve the water problem globally?

    and this is your temporary measure? belay , or do you want to enter Ukraine and open the Dnieper sections?

    The measure is temporary. And very. One window dressing. Globally, something is heard about desalination plants? Or about a pipe from the mainland? Not. That one.
  • Maxim364364
    Maxim364364 13 July 2020 14: 21 New
    -2
    Sanctions for Crimea for the whole of Russia, and they gave Crimea to be plundered to two Moldovans and the Jewish-Masonic-Bandera gang around them all of a sudden after receiving Russian passports that became zealous patriots. Under Ukraine, there was no fool at all in the supreme power, Aksyonov jumped on trifles with his parties, but everyone knew his level, did not trust anything serious, and then he ascended, though the thinking as it was was the Moldavian ensign and remained, he selects the environment accordingly.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 14 July 2020 11: 46 New
      0
      yes maxik. ..you have narcotic nonsense or you’re a representative of a drug addict of the Floyd type of the “venom Crimean officer” ...... shut up and don’t get out if others didn’t shut you up specifically ... in America, not everyone crawls on their knees and the stems are black kissing
  • Brturin
    Brturin 13 July 2020 14: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    Do you want to enter Ukraine and open the Dnieper sections?

    It’s of course the Dnieper, but ... “The Dnieper does not die, it is de facto dead, because it lost the ability to cleanse itself” –Ecologist, Doctor of Technical Sciences Yevgeny Yakovlev - 2018 ... Head of the National Ecological Council of Ukraine Alexander Chistyakov - “The Dnieper’s condition is critical, he no longer roars, he groans. The river just dies "- oct. 2019 ..
    Water from the mainland, but on the mainland it needs no less, there too ... Only its own desalination system .... "Academician Lomonosov" works, the "ground" version of two such small blocks + desalination station ....
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 July 2020 15: 03 New
    -3
    I didn’t understand something, to stand the day to load the column, then to unload the day? Why is this so? And for a beautiful picture, or what? The stackers are probably idle on the spot.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 13 July 2020 19: 24 New
    +2
    Read. Output:
    Military "falcons" cheerfully cheer. Although I personally did not doubt it for a second.
    The pipe does not fundamentally change this situation. To my deep regret.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 13 July 2020 23: 28 New
    0
    Googled the news:


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    Between Taigan and Simferopol reservoirs laid more than 50 km of the pipeline
    13.07.2020
    The Russian Ministry of Defense laid more than 50 kilometers of a pipeline between the Taigan and Simferopol reservoirs. This was reported in the department. ©

    In the photo I see 7 branches of the pipeline, and I don’t know how 50 km are protected, most likely linear of all pipes. There is no time to understand the heights of the topography, I hope that you do not need to "raise water"
    + Fixed !!! The photo for some reason is not illustrative under this news was !!! +
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 14 July 2020 20: 39 New
      +1
      Judging by the article, they plan to use some mobile pumping stations. It must be assumed to create / maintain a certain working pressure in the pipe.
      Yes, actually what to guess? ... Pumping stations (gasoline) and the principle of their operation for a hundred years is known to all / many.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 14 July 2020 20: 45 New
        +1
        plan to use some mobile pumping stations. ©
        To my shame, I did not get acquainted with the topography. I cannot answer you on this question now, I apologize.
        Regards to you.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 14 July 2020 01: 32 New
    0
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Magog
    Let us hope that such arid conditions will not be repeated soon in the future, and that the problem of water supply will still be thoroughly solved.

    Today in Kerch and Feodosia there were showers, and rainfall was not so little for the summer period. Do you think at least somewhere in the steppe Crimea rainfall has been set up in the form of special storage facilities where rainwater would flow? This work was stopped in the sixties, after the construction of the canal and a large number of artesian wells were plugged in about 30 in Kerch. In general, the Crimean authorities will whine for a long time, but they won’t get their hands on the old-time methods of collecting water - I already understood that.

    And the authorities are the same, with rare exceptions as under the previous regime, so the problem, as usual, will be solved by the Russian Federation due to underfunding of other regions. Everything is as usual.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 14 July 2020 21: 03 New
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      Well, hello ...
      Yes, indeed in the region of Feodosia after eighteen hours it rained and thundered. But in the town of Primorsky (greater Feodosia) I have not noticed any special showers.
      Most showers poured stupidly into the Black Sea however. What is the use of this for the population?
      Underfunding of other regions has always been the case. Though with Crimea, even without it. I also read newspapers. Or maybe there was funding, but no one will tell you about this? ...
      Where did the money from the other governors come from?
      Thus! In other regions, this has never happened ... And here again ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 14 July 2020 21: 59 New
    0
    Each family has a moonshine for the transfer of sea water to fresh