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Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

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Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

The network continues to discuss the next stage of tests conducted in Turkey of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system, which was delivered from Russia.


The Turkish media reported that US-made aircraft armed with the Turkish Air Force were used as conditional training targets. It was primarily about F-16 aircraft.

After some time, there were statements that the Turkish troops decided to test the S-400 air defense radars against fifth-generation fighters F-22 and F-35, which take off from US air force bases in the Middle East.

Another version is related to the fact that the Turkish military command is testing the capabilities of the S-400 Triumph complex in relation to US Air Force aircraft deployed at the Incirlik airbase. This air base is one of the US and NATO command bases in Europe.

European military experts note that recently Turkey has been actively improving its military potential amid the development of the economy. President Erdogan is trying to strengthen his power and bring Turkey to a position where it would be maximally protected both from economic and military-political pressure. And the statements from Turkish journalists about the "various types of S-400 testing" are called an attempt to indicate to everyone, and the United States in the first place, that Turkey is ready to act as tough as possible in the presence of a national security threat.

In particular, the issue of the recent past, when Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24M bomber, is also considered. Then, as you know, Erdogan said that the Russian "Drying" entered the airspace of Turkey. Then it was suddenly announced that a blow to the Russian plane was being inflicted in order to “harm Erdogan” from the side of the “military coup”.

Now Erdogan is being asked to answer the question: is he ready to use, for example, the S-400 air defense system against American aircraft, if with their help Washington will decide to "pacify" the Turkish president. The most nationalist-minded Turkish forces speak of the "complete independence" of the country, noting that "the military shot down the Russian Su-24, and if necessary they also shot down a US plane."
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  1. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 11 July 2020 06: 49 New
    -3
    For every action, there is opposition. The Turks need to remember this, so that something like a "caliber" arrives in response.
    1. KCA
      KCA 11 July 2020 07: 07 New
      -2
      If it comes to this, then before something reaches, the Sultan will seize the storage with thermonuclear bombs on the Incirlik, and oh, what will happen, what will happen ...
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 11 July 2020 10: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: KCA
        If it comes to this, then before something reaches, the Sultan will seize the storage with thermonuclear bombs on the Incirlik, and oh, what will happen, what will happen ...

        Yes, nothing will happen, except that Erdogan can turn them into "dirty" bombs, detonating only on his territory.
        Suppose he captured them and what ?! I think that the Turks can only chop nuts on them, because control of these bombs, a platoon of readiness and removal of fuses, the Turks do not own! Americans are not fools to leave “cocked grenades” to all kinds of hamadril!
        1. KCA
          KCA 11 July 2020 10: 40 New
          -2
          Iran will be duplicated only for enriching uranium, and weapons-grade plutonium is already prepared, it’s clear that without codes you can’t launch bombs, but get plutonium like two fingers on asphalt, even if you have a self-destruction device, you can disassemble it in the bunker with a manipulator, collect plutonium atomized by the bunker not be difficult
      2. Umalta
        Umalta 11 July 2020 12: 22 New
        0
        Yes, of course, and the United States of course will give him the initiation and launch codes
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 11 July 2020 08: 07 New
      +1
      If the Turks were deprived of the right to buy f35, so in order to amuse their wounded pride, they will verbally bring down everything from mosquitoes to comets in space!
    3. snake
      snake 11 July 2020 11: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      The Turks need to remember this, so that something like a "caliber" arrives in response.

      For example, the embargo on tomatoes. Does this look like a "gauge"? Well, at least remotely?
      Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

      Maybe they will bring down. But the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will not get off with tomatoes and concern.
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  3. Pilot
    Pilot 11 July 2020 07: 00 New
    +4
    Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"
    Uroshki are the same everywhere, they throw all the hats. Ours is not an exception, how many years already Israeli fighters have been knocked off sofas in Syria .. laughing tongue
    1. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 11 July 2020 07: 32 New
      0
      Pilot, change epaulettes, soon the day of the Navy.
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    3. major147
      major147 11 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Pilot
      Israeli fighters from sofas shot down in Syria ..

      So they do not fly into Syria, they shoot from other countries .....
      1. Zeev
        Zeev zeev 11 July 2020 12: 40 New
        -5
        Listen to you, the Israeli Air Force has armed cruise missiles with a range of 500 km, which freely pass through the Syrian air defense, and the Syrians never fired air defense missiles either over Jordan, or over Lebanon, or over the sea (when the S-200 missile flew to Cyprus )
        1. major147
          major147 11 July 2020 14: 05 New
          +1
          Listen to you

          Do you deny what I said?
          1. Zeev
            Zeev zeev 11 July 2020 14: 31 New
            -4
            Of course I deny it. The Israeli Air Force operates over Syrian territory and strikes from Syrian airspace. And Syrian air defense most often simply does not see them. Why? Because the electronic warfare in Israel is at a high level, and the operations themselves are planned taking into account the terrain and the use of the dead zones of Syrian radars.
            1. major147
              major147 11 July 2020 15: 33 New
              +2
              Quote: ZeevZeev
              Of course I deny it.

              "The Jerusalem Post in Israel writes that Damascus was again bombed by Israeli aircraft that night.
              Israeli sources add that for the attack, IDF aircraft did not enter Syrian airspacestriking from the Golan Heights. "
              https://topwar.ru/167868-vvs-izrailja-nanesli-novyj-udar-po-okrestnostjam-damaska.html
              And whom to believe?
              1. Zeev
                Zeev zeev 11 July 2020 18: 10 New
                -3
                Believe common sense ©
                Attributes attributed to Israel in Aleppo, Abu Kamal, Deir al-Zur, Palmyra, etc. It is impossible to produce either from Israel or from Lebanon. There were dozens, if not hundreds, of strikes. Do you really think that on the basis of ONE message you can draw conclusions about ALL?
                1. major147
                  major147 11 July 2020 19: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: ZeevZeev
                  Do you really think that on the basis of ONE message you can draw conclusions about ALL?

                  I can think of anything, but as long as I am not a participant in the events on either side, I can only draw information from the media.
                  1. Zeev
                    Zeev zeev 11 July 2020 21: 32 New
                    -4
                    If you draw information from the media, I highly advise you to follow all the messages of these same media. It is from there that information can be obtained from all attacks in Syria.
                    1. major147
                      major147 11 July 2020 23: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: ZeevZeev
                      I highly advise you to follow all the messages of these same media.

                      Did I ask you for advice?
  4. Li17
    Li17 11 July 2020 07: 08 New
    +1
    In a war for everybody ... That's what is interesting, at one time the GDP declared that Turkey must fulfill in order to solve the incident. And something that everyone quietly erased, it seems that there was a pilot written down to the putschists, but from Erdogan ..... At least I did not hear!
  5. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 11 July 2020 07: 10 New
    0
    Oh, better not Erdogan and his associates to bring down the Americans .... stop
    1. Egg
      Egg 11 July 2020 07: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: AlexVas44
      Oh, better not Erdogan and his associates to bring down the Americans ....

      What are you, what’s better, on the contrary - to bring down, the most fun will begin, maybe then the fucking pin * wasps from Russia will lag behind wink
  6. Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 11 July 2020 07: 12 New
    12
    At the Pentagon, the Allies increasingly began to rock. The grip loosened ...
  7. Strashila
    Strashila 11 July 2020 07: 12 New
    +1
    All the same, separating warheads with a simple explosive should be put on Sineva, so that within an hour to indicate their opinion anywhere in the world. A light starfall will cool any star.
    1. KCA
      KCA 11 July 2020 07: 19 New
      0
      And what about the start of the “Sineva” American SPRN? They have bases everywhere, no matter where you spit, the direction of missile flight can be regarded as an attack on one of the bases, then what? Preved, bear, 3rd world?
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 11 July 2020 12: 14 New
        -2
        There is a direct line between the USA and Russia for this.
  8. k174oun7
    k174oun7 11 July 2020 07: 18 New
    10
    The Su-24 performed a b / task without being escorted by our fighters and was easily shot down by a single Turkish fighter. There is still no answer who sent it and what responsibility was incurred for such a command in the conduct of hostilities. Here the question is not so much about big politics as about tactics of using aviation in combat conditions. The big policy is the supply of air defense systems. For ten years, Iran was puzzled by the issue of supplying a paid and not the most advanced S-300, but to friend Erdogan, please get a fresh S-400, on credit, with all its tricks in all areas of relations. Whether they decide to use the S-400 against the Americans is unlikely. But another Turkish focus with the use of air defense systems delivered on account of our loan against our own aviation cannot be ruled out.
  9. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 11 July 2020 07: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Strashila
    All the same, separating warheads with a simple explosive should be put on Sineva, so that within an hour to indicate their opinion anywhere in the world. A light starfall will cool any star.

    Don’t you talk about Sinev ... Krasnoyarsk ......... So after all, in the past century, 85 years-11 HEADS worked on HEADS .......
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 11 July 2020 07: 44 New
    +4
    The history of the Su-24 is dark. Erdogan then tried to break away, he actually had no choice. But if he was aware, our intelligence would have leaked him information about the putschists. And what is characteristic, first of all,
    You then flew at the command of the Air Force from that very base. But the Sultan began to dig into it. It should be put in place. In the same Syria, or Libya.
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 11 July 2020 08: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      The history of the Su-24 is dark. Erdogan then tried to break away, he actually had no choice. But if he were aware, our intelligence would have leaked him information about the coup


      Do you really think that Erdogan was not in the know? On the contrary, I think that not only in the know, but he himself could have given such an order, all the same it was a political decision and the pointer came from the very top. Of course, the prime minister took responsibility. but who knows how it really was. Moreover, Turkey did not particularly repent of their deeds, on the contrary, they are proud of it.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 11 July 2020 09: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        Moreover, Turkey did not particularly repent of their deeds, on the contrary, they are proud of it.

        They did not apologize. In the letter there was regret about the death of a person, the family of the deceased.
      2. shinobi
        shinobi 13 July 2020 00: 40 New
        0
        The story is dark. Again, what did ours do right after the incident, that all the aviation of Turkey and NATO sat at the bases like a mouse under a broom?
  11. Maki maki
    Maki maki 11 July 2020 08: 21 New
    +8
    It is only said
    The most nationalist Turkish forces

    The official position is more balanced.
  12. no
    no one 11 July 2020 09: 34 New
    +1
    Who are these nationalist forces? This is how to take and select one comment here and make news from it. Nothing shorter
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 11 July 2020 09: 36 New
    +1
    Conversations, conversations .... and who is the conductor there?
  14. Vestovoi
    Vestovoi 11 July 2020 10: 25 New
    -7
    Well, first we Turkish F-16 from Iskanedar, I’ve soaked it, I remember, off the coast of Syria .. The body was never found ..))))) The sieve was ..
    Quote: rocket757
    Conversations, conversations .... and who is the conductor there?

    One small but cunning country ..)))
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 11 July 2020 11: 26 New
      +1
      From Iskander, yes on F-16? ... belay
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 11 July 2020 11: 47 New
        0
        At the airport where these aircraft were based. With cassette warhead. It was necessary, immediately after the defeat of Su24
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 11 July 2020 12: 02 New
          0
          Unfortunately, history does not accept subjunctive moods ..... if, yes if only ..... well, then about the grandmother and grandfather you yourself know ....
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 11 July 2020 12: 11 New
            +2
            That's for sure. Therefore, we read such statements.
      2. Vestovoi
        Vestovoi 11 July 2020 12: 55 New
        -5
        Quote: nPuBaTuP
        From Iskander, yes on F-16? ... belay

        Well, I made a mistake, it happens for the "Shell" ..)))) The main thing. What was the matter
        And you are directly attached and negative
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 11 July 2020 17: 46 New
          0
          On F-16 - never fired anything. wink
          The Syrians do not have Iskander. And he is not air defense. wink
          Syrians shot down reconnaissance F-4. wink
          Question: Was there a Shell then, in 2012? wink
          Heard you ringing ... hi
          https://www.testpilots.ru/2012/06/sirijskie-sredstva-pvo-sbili-ne-boevoj-a-razvedy-vatel-ny-j-turetskij-samolet/
        2. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 12 July 2020 00: 48 New
          0
          Well wrong, it happens for the "Shell"

          He was not mistaken ..... He gave the "wish" for reality ....
          And what are you talking about? .... delirium, or as usual, fart in a puddle?
  15. alone
    alone 11 July 2020 10: 45 New
    +1
    Who knows what some cheers-patriots say? Here on our site Vitalik for the seventh year bombing 50% of the world, capturing the remaining 50% .. So what?
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 July 2020 11: 46 New
    +2
    Is that why? Because they forgave for nothing the downed Su24M and the killed pilot and the deceased rescuer.
    1. Vestovoi
      Vestovoi 11 July 2020 13: 01 New
      -4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Is that why? Because they forgave for nothing the downed Su24M and the killed pilot and the deceased rescuer.

      And if they had not forgiven, then, to the delight of Israel, the United States had to fight with Turkey ..?
      Do you remember how our IL with experts was framed, our ambassador was killed in Turkey, they tried to arrange a military coup in Ankara, etc. How many more signals do you need?
      How many cases now pit us against the Turks, etc. .. Who benefits? Have you ever thought? Open your eyes at last .. And how many minusers gathered here?
      PS During the rescue of the pilots, many Hesbollah special forces soldiers died, they first rushed to the rescue of the Russian pilot, but they were already waiting there ..
  17. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 11 July 2020 18: 28 New
    0
    Let the Turks stuff their brains with salom in the first place, we remember 24 and we will not forget!
  18. chingachguc
    chingachguc 11 July 2020 19: 07 New
    0
    NATO tutu NATO. Yes, it's just some kind of holiday!
  19. turkish34
    turkish34 15 July 2020 10: 41 New
    0
    Hello, friends, I am a Turk, and you are faced with a large number of Russians these days, so our common interests are not enemies for you, and we never were, but you always wanted to fight with us. we apologize for the plane