Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

The network continues to discuss the next stage of tests conducted in Turkey of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system, which was delivered from Russia.

The Turkish media reported that US-made aircraft armed with the Turkish Air Force were used as conditional training targets. It was primarily about F-16 aircraft.

After some time, there were statements that the Turkish troops decided to test the S-400 air defense radars against fifth-generation fighters F-22 and F-35, which take off from US air force bases in the Middle East.

Another version is related to the fact that the Turkish military command is testing the capabilities of the S-400 Triumph complex in relation to US Air Force aircraft deployed at the Incirlik airbase. This air base is one of the US and NATO command bases in Europe.

European military experts note that recently Turkey has been actively improving its military potential amid the development of the economy. President Erdogan is trying to strengthen his power and bring Turkey to a position where it would be maximally protected both from economic and military-political pressure. And the statements from Turkish journalists about the "various types of S-400 testing" are called an attempt to indicate to everyone, and the United States in the first place, that Turkey is ready to act as tough as possible in the presence of a national security threat.

In particular, the issue of the recent past, when Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24M bomber, is also considered. Then, as you know, Erdogan said that the Russian "Drying" entered the airspace of Turkey. Then it was suddenly announced that a blow to the Russian plane was being inflicted in order to “harm Erdogan” from the side of the “military coup”.

Now Erdogan is being asked to answer the question: is he ready to use, for example, the S-400 air defense system against American aircraft, if with their help Washington will decide to "pacify" the Turkish president. The most nationalist-minded Turkish forces speak of the "complete independence" of the country, noting that "the military shot down the Russian Su-24, and if necessary they also shot down a US plane."

Comments

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

There is a counteraction for every action. The Turks need to remember this, it turns out that something in the form of a "caliber" will arrive in response.

[KCA]

If it comes to this, then before something reaches, the Sultan will seize the storage with thermonuclear bombs on the Incirlik, and oh, what will be, what will be ...

[Starover_Z]

Quote: KCA

If it comes to this, then before something reaches, the Sultan will seize the storage with thermonuclear bombs on the Incirlik, and oh, what will be, what will be ...

Yes, nothing will happen, except that Erdogan can turn them into "dirty" bombs, detonating only on his own territory.
Suppose he captured them and what ?! I think that the Turks will only be able to chop nuts on them. control of these bombs, the platoon to readiness and the removal of fuses, the Turks do not own! Americans are not stupid to leave "cocked grenades" to any hamadryas!

[KCA]

Iran will be duplicated only for enriching uranium, and weapons-grade plutonium is already prepared, it’s clear that without codes you can’t launch bombs, but get plutonium like two fingers on asphalt, even if you have a self-destruction device, you can disassemble it in the bunker with a manipulator, collect plutonium atomized by the bunker not be difficult

[Umalta]

Yes, of course, and the United States of course will give him the initiation and launch codes

[Thrifty]

If the Turks were deprived of the right to buy f35, so in order to amuse their wounded pride, they will verbally bring down everything from mosquitoes to comets in space!

[snake]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

The Turks need to remember this, it turns out that something in the form of a "caliber" will arrive in response.

For example the embargo on tomatoes. Does this sound like a "caliber"? Well, at least remotely?

Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

Maybe they will bring down. But the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will not get off with tomatoes and concern.

[Pilot]

Nationalist forces of Turkey: "They shot down the Russian Su-24, if it is required - the US plane will also be shot down"

Uroshki are the same everywhere, they throw all the hats. Ours is not an exception, how many years already Israeli fighters have been knocked off sofas in Syria ..

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Pilot, change epaulettes, soon the day of the Navy.

[major147]

Quote: Pilot

Israeli fighters from sofas shot down in Syria ..

So they do not fly into Syria, they shoot from other countries .....

[Zeev zeev]

Listen to you, the Israeli Air Force has armed cruise missiles with a range of 500 km, which freely pass through the Syrian air defense, and the Syrians never fired air defense missiles either over Jordan, or over Lebanon, or over the sea (when the S-200 missile flew to Cyprus )

[major147]

Listen to you

Do you deny what I said?

[Zeev zeev]

Of course I deny it. The Israeli Air Force operates over Syrian territory and strikes from Syrian airspace. And Syrian air defense most often simply does not see them. Why? Because the electronic warfare in Israel is at a high level, and the operations themselves are planned taking into account the terrain and the use of the dead zones of Syrian radars.

[major147]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Of course I deny it.

"The Israeli edition of The Jerusalem Post writes that that night Damascus was again subjected to a missile attack by Israeli aircraft.
Israeli sources add that for the attack, IDF aircraft did not enter Syrian airspacestriking from the Golan Heights. "
https://topwar.ru/167868-vvs-izrailja-nanesli-novyj-udar-po-okrestnostjam-damaska.html
And whom to believe?

[Zeev zeev]

Believe common sense ©
Attributes attributed to Israel in Aleppo, Abu Kamal, Deir al-Zur, Palmyra, etc. It is impossible to produce either from Israel or from Lebanon. There were dozens, if not hundreds, of strikes. Do you really think that on the basis of ONE message you can draw conclusions about ALL?

[major147]

Quote: ZeevZeev

Do you really think that on the basis of ONE message you can draw conclusions about ALL?

I can think of anything, but as long as I am not a participant in the events on either side, I can only draw information from the media.

[Zeev zeev]

If you draw information from the media, I highly advise you to follow all the messages of these same media. It is from there that information can be obtained from all attacks in Syria.

[major147]

Quote: ZeevZeev

I highly advise you to follow all the messages of these same media.

Did I ask you for advice?

[Li17]

In a war for everybody ... That's what is interesting, at one time the GDP declared that Turkey must fulfill in order to solve the incident. And something that everyone quietly erased, it seems that there was a pilot written down to the putschists, but from Erdogan ..... At least I did not hear!

[AlexVas44]

Oh, better not Erdogan and his associates to bring down the Americans ....

[Egg]

Quote: AlexVas44

Oh, better not Erdogan and his associates to bring down the Americans ....

What are you, what’s better, on the contrary - to bring down, the most fun will begin, maybe then the fucking pin * wasps from Russia will lag behind

[Antifreeze]

At the Pentagon, the Allies increasingly began to rock. The grip loosened ...

[Strashila]

All the same, separating warheads with a simple explosive should be put on Sineva, so that within an hour to indicate their opinion anywhere in the world. A light starfall will cool any star.

[KCA]

And how will the American early warning system react to the launch of "Sineva"? They have bases everywhere, wherever you spit, the direction of the missile's flight can be regarded as an attack on one of the bases, then what? Hello bear, World War III?

[Strashila]

There is a direct line between the USA and Russia for this.

[k174oun7]

The Su-24 performed a b / task without being escorted by our fighters and was easily shot down by a single Turkish fighter. There is still no answer who sent it and what responsibility was incurred for such a command in the conduct of hostilities. Here the question is not so much about big politics as about tactics of using aviation in combat conditions. The big policy is the supply of air defense systems. For ten years, Iran was puzzled by the issue of supplying a paid and not the most advanced S-300, but to friend Erdogan, please get a fresh S-400, on credit, with all its tricks in all areas of relations. Whether they decide to use the S-400 against the Americans is unlikely. But another Turkish focus with the use of air defense systems delivered on account of our loan against our own aviation cannot be ruled out.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: Strashila

All the same, separating warheads with a simple explosive should be put on Sineva, so that within an hour to indicate their opinion anywhere in the world. A light starfall will cool any star.

Don’t you talk about Sinev ... Krasnoyarsk ......... So after all, in the past century, 85 years-11 HEADS worked on HEADS .......

[shinobi]

The history of the Su-24 is dark. Erdogan then tried to break away, he actually had no choice. But if he was aware, our intelligence would have leaked him information about the putschists. And what is characteristic, first of all,
You then flew at the command of the Air Force from that very base. But the Sultan began to dig into it. It should be put in place. In the same Syria, or Libya.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: shinobi

The history of the Su-24 is dark. Erdogan then tried to break away, he actually had no choice. But if he were aware, our intelligence would have leaked him information about the coup

Do you really think that Erdogan was not in the know? On the contrary, I think that not only in the know, but he himself could have given such an order, all the same it was a political decision and the pointer came from the very top. Of course, the prime minister took responsibility. but who knows how it really was. Moreover, Turkey did not particularly repent of their deeds, on the contrary, they are proud of it.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Moreover, Turkey did not particularly repent of their deeds, on the contrary, they are proud of it.

They did not apologize. In the letter there was regret about the death of a person, the family of the deceased.

[shinobi]

The story is dark. Again, what did ours do right after the incident, that all the aviation of Turkey and NATO sat at the bases like a mouse under a broom?

[Maki maki]

It is only said

The most nationalist Turkish forces

The official position is more balanced.

[no better place for]

Who are these nationalist forces? This is how to take and select one comment here and make news from it. Nothing shorter

[rocket757]

Conversations, conversations .... and who is the conductor there?

[Vestovo]

Well, first we soaked the Turkish F-16 from Iskanedar. I remember it off the coast of Syria .. The body was never found ..))))) There was a sieve ..

Quote: rocket757

Conversations, conversations .... and who is the conductor there?

One small but cunning country ..)))

[nPuBaTuP]

From Iskander, yes on F-16? ...

[Zaurbek]

At the airport where these aircraft were based. With cassette warhead. It was necessary, immediately after the defeat of Su24

[nPuBaTuP]

Unfortunately, history does not accept subjunctive moods ..... if, yes if only ..... well, then about the grandmother and grandfather you yourself know ....

[Zaurbek]

That's for sure. Therefore, we read such statements.

[Vestovo]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

From Iskander, yes on F-16? ...

Well, I was mistaken, it happens for "Shell" ..)))) The main thing is that it was
And you are directly attached and

[Alex777]

On F-16 - never fired anything.
The Syrians do not have Iskander. And he is not air defense.
Syrians shot down reconnaissance F-4.
Question: Was there a Shell then, in 2012?
Heard you ringing ...
https://www.testpilots.ru/2012/06/sirijskie-sredstva-pvo-sbili-ne-boevoj-a-razvedy-vatel-ny-j-turetskij-samolet/

[nPuBaTuP]

Well, I was mistaken, it happens for "Shell"

He was not mistaken ..... He gave out "wishful thinking" as reality ....
And what are you talking about? .... delirium, or as usual, fart in a puddle?

[alone]

Who knows what some cheers-patriots say? Here on our site Vitalik for the seventh year bombing 50% of the world, capturing the remaining 50% .. So what?

[Zaurbek]

Is that why? Because they forgave for nothing the downed Su24M and the killed pilot and the deceased rescuer.

[Vestovo]

Quote: Zaurbek

Is that why? Because they forgave for nothing the downed Su24M and the killed pilot and the deceased rescuer.

And if they had not forgiven, then, to the delight of Israel, the United States had to fight with Turkey ..?
Do you remember how our IL with experts was framed, our ambassador was killed in Turkey, they tried to arrange a military coup in Ankara, etc. How many more signals do you need?
How many cases now pit us against the Turks, etc. .. Who benefits? Have you ever thought? Open your eyes at last .. And how many minusers gathered here?
PS During the rescue of the pilots, many Hesbollah special forces soldiers died, they first rushed to the rescue of the Russian pilot, but they were already waiting there ..

[Fantazer911]

Let the Turks stuff their brains with salom in the first place, we remember 24 and we will not forget!

[chingachguc]

NATO tutu NATO. Yes, it's just some kind of holiday!

[Turkish34]

Hello, friends, I am a Turk, and you are faced with a large number of Russians these days, so our common interests are not enemies for you, and we never were, but you always wanted to fight with us. we apologize for the plane