3% or 76%: how are Lukashenko treated in Belarus and beyond

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3% or 76%: how are Lukashenko treated in Belarus and beyond

The other day, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko held a meeting with local journalists, at which he handed them the "true" data of opinion polls, indicating that his "popular support" has not gone away. True, for some reason, the stamp “top secret” was on the documents presented to the press, but that was not the point ... It is much more interesting what, in reality, is the opinion of Alexander Grigoryevich of the inhabitants of his own country and other countries.

Hand on heart, one cannot fail to admit that in recent years Lukashenko has come a long way in this regard, exhaustively fitting into the saying: from the great to the ridiculous - one step. You must admit that the metamorphosis from the “last dictator of Europe” to the “cockroach” indicates not only the loss of a considerable share of sympathies, but much more. Frankly authoritarian methods of governing the country worried Belarusians quite a bit, while in this country reigned silence, expanse and God's grace. Believe me, I judge firsthand. I happened to be there more than once and communicate with a variety of people.



Against the background of operating enterprises, sown fields, clean streets, amazing roads, an almost complete absence of crime (at least in comparison with many post-Soviet countries), some lack of freedom seemed a secondary affair. It was not without reason that they called Lukashenko “father’s” - the image of a simple and strong, albeit severe, peasant created by him worked perfectly, being backed up by real affairs. Today, Alexander Grigorievich managed to make a lot of ill-wishers in his homeland who did not support him due to various reasons and motives.

Those Belarusians whose worldview is described by the song line “we are waiting for changes, changes” have always reacted negatively to the president, who “cemented” the country tightly, albeit in a state of stability. Now, citizens who saw their future in the Union State with Russia are also opposed to it (and, believe me, there are a lot of such people in Belarus). And at the same time - simply all the inhabitants of the country today who are in distress due to a sharp economic fall caused in the local case not only and not so much by the crisis due to the pandemic, but how torn apart between Lukashenko and Moscow.

A significant negative role was also played by the more than peculiar behavior of the leader of the state during the coronavirus epidemic. Denial of the obvious, stubborn reluctance to adopt world experience, a categorical refusal to enter quarantine. Moreover, the “father’s” periodically broadcast statements, on which almost the whole world laughed! So no wonder to lose the last vestiges of respect. It is difficult to say how real the 3% support that the local opposition "draws" for Lukashenko today is real, but 76% of the approval in the "secret" official poll is hardly true. I fully admit that many Belarusians will vote for him again, but solely for reasons like these: “No matter how worse it becomes ...” You won’t go far in such a rating.

What do they think about Lukashenko in Russia, which from time to time from old times he continues to call “fraternal”, while claiming the status of “sole ally”? But what could the leader of a country expect for a long time connected with us by the most friendly ties, but for some time now, in terms of the number of anti-Russian statements, it has come close to the politicians of Ukraine and Georgia? It smells like a new attempt to sit on several chairs ... And many Russians speak in this way about the "insidious father". The Kremlin, of course, is trying to abide by the protocol, etiquette and elementary decency, but it’s obviously more difficult for Russian politicians to do this, especially after some particularly “savory” attacks from Minsk.

With Ukraine it’s a bit more complicated. There, the attitude to Lukashenko is twofold: on the one hand, he is friends with Russia or, in any case, he does not openly quarrel. So, not your own. On the other hand, where would it be “cold” without Belarusian fuel and supplies of many more other things, with the help of which at least to some extent it is possible to circumvent Russian sanctions? Therefore, at the level of official Kiev, the attitude towards the “father’s” is emphasized even and neighborly. True, at the same time, local nationalists are sleeping and see how to “make money” in Minsk, teaching Belarusians to “bring down dictators”.

For the West, Alexander Grigoryevich, who has recently spent a lot of efforts to get closer to him or at least create the appearance of such a rapprochement, will forever remain that very “last dictator”, the embodiment of authoritarianism, totalitarianism and a living challenge to the “democratic values” so earnestly declared there. Moreover, by his actions Lukashenko, this time having organized a real pre-election pogrom in the camp of his own opponents, does not get tired to demonstrate “civilized” that all their prejudices about him are pure truth. An important component for the United States is to use Belarus as another springboard to “contain” Russia, the next version of Ukraine’s Maidan.

The countries of the European Union are relatively calm about the Belarusian leader exactly as long as he ensures stability on some of their eastern borders and does not flood their borders with crowds of migrant workers, like Ukraine. The United States is quietly gritting its teeth against “Minsk’s rights and freedoms violation”, but it is forced to put up with Lukashenko, trying to use it as another source, as already noted, of a headache and problems for Russia. However, as soon as in the West they see the opportunity to change the “dad” to a more convenient character (or characters), to support the next “color revolution” directed against Alexander Grigoryevich, all possible forces and resources will be thrown into this matter. He is not aware of this fact; it seems that he is the only one. Or is he still aware? ..
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  1. Eug
    +10
    11 July 2020 07: 59
    For the States, Belarus is now a much more convenient option for creating a "showcase" in the post-Soviet space than Ukraine. The standard of living is higher, the infrastructure is much better, there is no resistance from the oligarchs due to the lack of such ... Investments will be required much less.
    1. +5
      11 July 2020 08: 23
      3% or 76%: how are Lukashenko treated in Belarus and beyond

      Lukashenko needs to be erected a monument only because he has kept Belarus as a friendly country of Russia. Where are they all former republics of the USSR? Most either dance to the tune of the West, or simply become enemies of Russia. Everything must be done so that Belarus remains a fraternal country for us!
      1. +11
        11 July 2020 12: 26
        Lukashenko needs to be erected a monument only because he has kept Belarus as a friendly country of Russia. Where are they all former republics of the USSR? Most either dance to the tune of the West, or simply become enemies of Russia. Everything must be done so that Belarus remains a fraternal country for us!

        Maybe it should, but ...
        Inside, at least in Minsk, a trend of 3% is clearly visible.
        For dad only security officials, and even that is not all. Very much not all.
        And the situation beyond Minsk Minsk is also very far from 76%
        Another thing is that it seems that the protocols of the election commissions are already laid out and even signed.
        And the fact that the father is very far from the people is absolutely certain. It has long turned into a fenced-off high fence, as in the song of Trofimov, who was overweight, clinging to material wealth and power of the prince.
        The internal opposition is not able to change the situation, there are two external forces of pressure. One is preparing fighting squads in the Brest region under the leadership of the forelocks, and Russia seems to sleep in a hat, as is the case with Ukraine.
        As if there was a second Maidan with cookies on the square in front of the Palace of the Republic.
        Although there is no one to choose from.
        Babariko is an economist, but what is on his mind is not known, he did not voice his program for well-known reasons, they put him in jail. Yes, and does not give the impression of a healthy, full of strength men. Diabetes from him carries a mile away.
        It clings too, neither fish nor meat. Yes, and most likely will not allow him. The voices were canceled by force. There is nothing to say about the rest, and those who are behind bars, like Tikhanovich, who hid like a mouse under a broom.
        And given the omnipotence of Yarmoshyna, it’s sad and scary for the future ...
        1. +7
          11 July 2020 17: 13
          A disease of the body does not mean a lack of mind. Roosevelt is an example. Boboriko cannot voice the program because it is forbidden by law before registration. And Lukashenko must cling to the throne for the sake of the family. He perfectly understands if he leaves, the children’s business is over, and he can live in Belarus. The point of no return has been passed long ago. The evil people have said it very softly. Also with Yarmoshyna, I don’t want to go to the zone for old age. Therefore, it strangles all competitors.
          1. 0
            14 July 2020 20: 07
            And most importantly, you can’t get to the United States either, you don’t want to live in the Chilean embassy) payback what to do
        2. +5
          11 July 2020 17: 55
          Quote: Vlad.by
          Maybe it should, but ...
          Inside, at least in Minsk, a trend of 3% is clearly visible.
          For dad only security officials, and even that is not all. Very much not all.
          And the situation beyond Minsk Minsk is also very far from 76%
          Another thing is that it seems that the protocols of the election commissions are already laid out and even signed

          One to one, like ours. And the figure is 76 percent, direct magic in the post-Soviet space. True, in Russia, in my opinion, the last time the authorities did not become modest and drew a higher percentage, I did not follow this circus and therefore I do not know the percentage of approvals.
          1. +6
            11 July 2020 17: 59
            I had a Belarusian enterprise (thank God, a decision on bankruptcy has already been received) and there are Russian enterprises. Moreover, production.
            Sorry, but I felt the difference in the economies of the two countries in my own skin.
            Now I want to get Russian citizenship.
            So not like "you". This I authoritatively declare to you!
            1. -2
              11 July 2020 18: 01
              Quote: Vlad.by
              So not like "you". This I authoritatively declare to you!

              I'm talking about cheating with percent support.
          2. Eug
            +1
            11 July 2020 18: 09
            76% - this is so that the% of those who voted in favor of the number of voters was a little more than 50%.
        3. +3
          11 July 2020 22: 11
          Inside, at least in Minsk, a trend of 3% is clearly visible.

          Minsk has always been a protest because there are a lot of young people in it, but recent events with water for 800.000 people have shown the truth even to numb retirees.

          And the situation beyond Minsk Minsk is also very far from 76%

          The farther from Minsk, the worse. Lower salaries, more arbitrariness. People can not stand.

          Another thing is that it seems that the protocols of the election commissions are already laid out and even signed.


          Out of a dozen thousand people who made it to the election commissions to count votes, not from pro-government organizations passed ... a dozen, maybe two. This is an indicator. But there filed applications and business leaders, graduates of Harvard, lawyers, and not just local drunks. They were ridiculed live by bureaucrats and voted on the lists. And this despite the fact that they could take all because still lack of people in commissions.


          Internal opposition is not able to change the situation

          She is capable, but the key moment is MIRNO and according to our legislation, but the authorities strangle everyone and everything. She is literally in a panic and the flywheel of repression is spun in full swing.

          pressure forces from outside

          Exactly zero. All Luka's shouts about the Maidan and the hand of the Kremlin / State Department are his attempts to put pressure on weak minds. Movies from state TV channels confirm this, every "election" is like that.

          As if there was a second Maidan in the square in front of the Palace of the Republic.

          And there are practically no other deals. He does not intend to give power peacefully. The Constitution has simply been destroyed and not one of the laws is working, except for the law of the Force (which the government uses with might and main).

          Although there is no one to choose from.
          There is always a choice. And this time, the options are good.
          1. +3
            11 July 2020 23: 56
            I will not argue.
            How many people - so many opinions.
          2. 0
            16 July 2020 18: 32
            All awesome said. I fully support
        4. +1
          16 July 2020 18: 26
          They said everything correctly. In my opinion, the real rating of Lukashenko in Minsk is 15-20%. On the periphery can up to 30%. But no more than that. The rest of them all wildly hate him. And his whole family. And after recent events, riot police also. If he forced the economy to work at least 1/3 of the work of the repressive apparatus, then we would be a prosperous country
      2. +4
        12 July 2020 10: 25
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        former republics of the USSR? Most either dance to the tune of the West, or simply become enemies of Russia.

        Or maybe this is the result of a moronic Putin-Lavrov foreign policy ?. All Russians are convinced that the whole world should love Russia and be grateful to the grave. So there is no country that you could love and be grateful for a long time. Russians successfully betrayed and sold it wholesale and retail. And their betrayal was replaced with whining about ungrateful neighbors.
      3. +3
        13 July 2020 14: 02
        Lukashenko needs to be erected a monument only because he has kept Belarus as a friendly country of Russia.
        he did all this not for the sake of Russia .. but simply so that nothing would threaten his dictatorship .. For Europe and the States, his retention of power is unacceptable .. and they are reckoned with only thanks to the support of Russia ..
    2. -11
      11 July 2020 08: 39
      But father is well done, of course, but he needs to go down in history - like Bohdan Khmelnitsky!
      1. -3
        11 July 2020 09: 05
        Quote: Finches
        But father is well done, of course, but he needs to go down in history - like Bohdan Khmelnitsky!

        That is, simply transfer control of their country to Chubais, Potanin and other our oligarchs? Or do you want to see Lukashenko, with your economic policy, at the head of the Union State? I'm afraid today neither the first nor the second option is impossible.
        1. -7
          11 July 2020 09: 54
          Why don’t you like Russia so much? What does Potanin have to do with it? I’m about the restoration of historical justice and the merging of one nation within common borders, and you immediately push your political gesheft ... + to insult on anti-Putin rhetoric!
          1. +20
            11 July 2020 10: 36
            Quote: Finches
            Why don’t you like Russia so much?

            You're not right. Apparently we have different ideas about "our Russia".
            Quote: Finches
            What does Potanin have to do with it?

            Not Potanin, or Vekselberg, or someone else. I am only talking about the fact that the current state structure in Russia was built by oligarchs and for oligarchs. Not for ordinary people and even not for medium and small businesses. And when our oligarchs come to Belarus, they will begin to "optimize" everything there, following the example of our country. They will destroy collective farms, in favor of some Mirotorg or Tkachev, tighten the screws to the Belarusian labor collectives, privatize all efficient factories, treat them like a VAZ, for example, or simply go bankrupt. The Belarusian people will no longer love the Russians from such an absorption.
            Quote: Finches
            I am about the restoration of historical justice and the merging of one people within common borders

            I would be glad to have one state, even with all the former Soviet republics, and not only with Ukraine and Belarus, but today this is impossible.
            Quote: Finches
            and you immediately push your political gesheft ... + to insult on anti-Putin rhetoric!

            I am not pushing any "political gesheft", and I almost do not care whether Putin expresses the interests of the ruling class, or someone else. I am sincerely convinced that as long as the ruling class will be the oligarchy that has emerged as a result of criminal privatization, no equal associations, no "upsurge in industry", etc. are not possible in principle. There will be only a slow or not very fading out.
            1. +11
              11 July 2020 11: 25
              I completely agree. They described everything very accurately.
            2. +1
              11 July 2020 14: 57
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              as long as the ruling class is the oligarchy that emerged as a result of criminal privatization, no equal associations, no "upsurge in industry," and so on. are not possible in principle.

              I fully support! Would a socialist system in the Russian Federation-a completely different matter. And so - in addition to their oligarchs (and they are in Belarus) also add Russian? That is why the union does not work in any way.
            3. 0
              11 July 2020 21: 11
              Then Crimea was not necessary to return ....
              1. +11
                11 July 2020 21: 19
                Quote: Finches
                Then Crimea was not necessary to return ....

                Instead of Crimea, it was necessary to return all of Ukraine, they always lived worse than the Russian Federation, and you can’t say the same for Belarus.
                1. 0
                  11 July 2020 22: 01
                  Come on - you simply do not understand the essence, although you write supposedly folk things, but you continue, in fact, to divide the state! Or you see, but do it consciously! But God be your judge .... Descending to a form that you won’t hear, I’ll write - Belarus is Russia, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan is Russia ... And if this merger occurs in the presence of Potanin, Vekselberg, etc. . p., then they can only put monuments! hi
                  1. +14
                    11 July 2020 23: 33
                    Quote: Finches
                    C'mon - you just don't understand the essence

                    So you explain to me, maybe your position will become more clear to me
                    .
                    Quote: Finches
                    Belarus is Russia, Ukraine, this is Russia, Kazakhstan is Russia ...

                    This is not Russia. Add 12 more former republics and it will be the Soviet Union. Although it is difficult to argue, Russian Belarusians and Ukrainians are fraternal peoples, and a lot of Russians live in Kazakhstan.
                    1. +1
                      12 July 2020 09: 20
                      Not! This is Russia - and Ukrainians and Belarusians, these are branches of the Russian people! I consider Kazakhstan exclusively the lands of Russia, like Siberia and the Far East ... Developed by our ancestors, and if we recall the virgin lands, then we are! All other republics, this is a slightly different story!
                      1. +7
                        12 July 2020 11: 03
                        Quote: Finches
                        I consider Kazakhstan exclusively the lands of Russia,

                        Where do you order Kazakhs?
                      2. +1
                        12 July 2020 12: 07
                        How they lived, so let them live. Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind!
                      3. +14
                        12 July 2020 12: 18
                        Quote: Finches
                        How they lived, so let them live. Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind!

                        That is, they have not grown to their state (republic)? Under the USSR, there was an active mixing of the population, so many Russians came to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Ukrainians, for example, to the Kuban. Over time, they would have achieved a more or less uniform national composition. And after the 90s, it all went to dust. Almost all the former Soviet republics, except Belarus, probably put nationalism one of the pillars of state policy. Therefore, without the resistance of the local population, they cannot be joined to the Russian Federation. This would have happened if the communist ideology had triumphed in our country and in them.
                      4. -4
                        12 July 2020 14: 02
                        And they will not be able to grow! Artificially created formations ... Their existence, as separate subjects of world law, is a denial of historical predetermination and a contradiction to common sense ... There is no genes of statehood - the Russians have it, therefore an empire has formed around us (white, red ... not important) - it was and will be so!
                        And nationalism - the West played this card surprisingly clearly ... There is much to say about this, and enough has been said about it! In 1987, I traveled to Central Asia, especially the Ferghana Valley: Andijan, Kokand, Namangan, Bukhara ... lived in Fergana and what happened after 2 years was a shock to me, because apart from friendliness and amazing hospitality, I don’t have anything there had seen! And relations between Baku and Yerevan - rolled down overnight to terrible bloodshed ... Okay, I expressed my point of view. I heard you. Thank you for the dialogue! hi
                      5. +10
                        12 July 2020 14: 26
                        Quote: Finches
                        And they will not be able to grow! Artificially created formations ... Their existence, as separate subjects of world law, is a denial of historical predetermination and a contradiction to common sense ... There is no genes of statehood - the Russians have it, therefore an empire has formed around us (white, red ... not important) - it was and will be so!

                        Do you even understand what you are writing? This is called racism.
                      6. -2
                        12 July 2020 16: 14
                        Racism is idiology about the inequality of human races, but in my judgments this does not and cannot be, because I start from the conviction, emphasized, among other things, by genetic examination that Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are one people ... However, for you it does not matter? laughing
                      7. +12
                        12 July 2020 19: 20
                        Quote: Finches
                        There is no gene of statehood - Russians have it

                        Hitler wrote about the same in Mein Kampf about the Germans.
                        Quote: Finches
                        among other things, genetic examination that Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are one people

                        I never denied that these are the branches of one people. Yes, the title of the tsar was "Sovereign of All Russia, Great and Small, and White".
          2. +2
            12 July 2020 06: 01
            Eugene. Of course we are not Belarusians, and it is not for us to decide. On the merger of the two states. Who is against? But when it comes to a specific case, the question will be about retirement age. About the monetary unit.
            1. +1
              12 July 2020 09: 22
              This is where you understand the wisdom and depth of the proverb - to break, not to build! We have destroyed the centuries-old brotherhood and coexistence within one day, and now it will take centuries to reunite again or ... political will is needed!
    3. -6
      11 July 2020 09: 31
      that Putin, that Lukashenko, they simply can not be less than 76% percent is the law of a democratic society.
      1. +3
        11 July 2020 12: 23
        Quote: Bar1
        that Putin, that Lukashenko, they simply can not be less than 76% is the law of a democratic society

        Do you know what I noticed? If you look at countries from West to East, then the further you go to the East, the higher the "support" of the ruler. Judging by the elections, in different Tajikistan and Turkmenistan, the people are simply crazy happy with their standard of living fellow But today it is not the 19th century and we all perfectly understand what all this "support" means. This is what the scientist Sergei Shpilkin says about the voting results
        1. +7
          11 July 2020 12: 41
          mdsr
          In England, 100% support their queen (those who are against fall under a criminal article). In sweden-norway-belgium-spain there is also total support of the monarch. There, laws are not always written everywhere, and even about the * election * of the monarch there is no question at all. And how do you like these lights of democracies?
          1. +4
            11 July 2020 22: 14
            Quote: Vasily50
            And how do you like these lights of democracies?

            But is it that monarchs have long been just a beautiful symbol of old traditions?
          2. +1
            11 July 2020 22: 42
            Quote: Vasily50
            In England, 100% support their queen (those who are against fall under a criminal article)


            Please provide a link to the article of the UK Criminal Code, which is criminally liable for the Queen’s unsupportment.
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              1. -4
                15 July 2020 14: 29
                Not, not on a Russian site with jokes and memasics, but on an article of the Criminal Code in English, please.
      2. -1
        13 July 2020 00: 56
        that Putin, that Lukashenko, they simply can not be less than 76% percent is the law of a democratic society.


        But Russia has never been a “democratic" society. We always need a strong leader, a person who is ready to take responsibility for the decisions made. And this is not bad!
        The mentality is with us.
        Russia was prosperous precisely at the moments of strong leaders, Ivan III, Peter the Great, Elizabeth, Catherine the Great, Alexander III, Stalin ...
        But boyar administration and even more so liberalism brought from the West, Russia has always crushed and destroyed.
        A strong leader for Russia as one-man management in the Army, without him there will be no sense.
        Of course, there were deviations - from the same Ivan the Terrible, and from Peter the Great, and from Joseph Vissarionovich.
        The current Leader is trying to avoid stiffness, but I'm afraid he will have to use hedgehog gloves sooner or later. Otherwise, putting things in order will be difficult. It is important that the leader is still a patriot of Russia, as the results of his reign show. Russia was on its knees even with a drunkard, and if not a superpower, it’s close to that.
        And about 76% - in Russia, in my opinion, this is exactly the number of voters who want to restore order, plus / minus 3-5%.
        The rest just fish in troubled waters. So 76 is the approximate ratio of healthy forces in the country.

        It is more difficult with Belarus - the leader is strong, charismatic, but already painfully striving for family management of a 9-million country.
        He was the chairman and remained the same psychologically. He would have to rebuild, redraw his consciousness in terms of true patriotism - there would be no price.
        But alas, for him, power is only a way of family survival, Belarusianness is only mimicry, otherwise the people absolutely will not understand the goals of the top, they will tear down the tower.
        And so, under the brand name of a fighter for sovereignty, he lasted 26 years. And now the mimicry resource is running out, but has not found new solutions. If you have not lost your main ally and sponsor, then everything goes to that.
        This time it may hold on, but ... fermentation only intensifies.
        So far, Belarusian “partisans” are manifested mainly only on forest paths, where, in general, it is safe to show their valor. But the farther, the degree and pressure will increase from the inside, and at some point the sponsor may decide that it is time to restore order in the bedlam.
        Then it’s impossible to resist.
        1. 0
          15 July 2020 18: 11
          Well, today is 15.07.
          Old Man has already solved the election problem. In one, "elegant" move. Just removing competitors from the election. Babariko and Tikhanovsky are already in jail, Tsepkalo, if he does not dump out of the country, will also be there, no later than six months later.
          Lukashenko, of course, a strong, charismatic personality. Again, for a 9 millionth country, it’s quite a strong business executive.
          But, with these elections, it seems like all the red lines crossed.
          The tapper can only be fenced off with a "high fence" from the people. I think he has already exhausted all the credit of trust.
          1. 0
            16 July 2020 13: 27
            This time is enough for him. At an unsuccessful time, the elections fell. (
    4. 0
      11 July 2020 10: 26
      Today, AFTER various kinds of statements by Lukashenko in RUSSIA, neither Belarusians nor Belarus are perceived as * fraternal *.
      In fact, what kind of * brotherhood * is this for which RUSSIA pays, but from the side of the Republic of Belarus only * still come on, otherwise I’ll be offended by kaaaaaak *.
      By the way, it’s also worthwhile to understand about people, it’s they who choose their Lukashenko and do not * buzz * against. Still, * buzz * if Belarusians themselves * Pope Kolya * appointed by the people * with a quality mark *.
  2. +10
    11 July 2020 08: 00
    Lukashenko - well done!
    Just look at how he has in recent years, raised the economy of Belarus to unprecedented heights!
    And seafood and rare varieties of vegetables and fruits and even unique industrial products flooded the market of fraternal Russia, with a note made in Belarus.
    1. 0
      11 July 2020 09: 45
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      ... And seafood and rare varieties of vegetables and fruits and even unique industrial products flooded the market of fraternal Russia, marked with a mark in Belarus.

      It’s a pity that he still hasn’t built berths, and if the US Sixth Fleet is immediately transferred to the shores of Belarus (according to J. Psaki), then there’s nowhere to moor. Well, on the other hand, shrimps do not need moorings ... tongue
    2. +11
      11 July 2020 09: 48
      good I like how neatly they write about Lukashenko here. Well, probably 20 percent of him will probably be typed among the most stubborn, but they are afraid of losing a warm place.
      With the support of 76%, he would not have organized demonstration cop actions of intimidation with lawlessness, but with shuttle wagons.
      The people are voting with their feet from this paradise, what else can I say
    3. +7
      11 July 2020 12: 36
      Can you tell us more about the economy of Belarus? Remember to indicate the height of those heavens.
      At the same time and tell me whose money "raised"
      Sarcasm is understandable, but sometimes it takes evil, as it was possible under such starting conditions and under such a regime of maximum assistance from Russia to document all that remains of the Union.
      Russia, with all complaints about its dependence on the oil industry, is developing its economy much more efficiently. At the same time, no one gives her any help but harm.
      Maybe thanks to the West for the sanctions! They gave the same kick in the ass, gave acceleration, stirred up the sleeping kingdom.
  3. -4
    11 July 2020 08: 25
    I fully admit that many Belarusians will vote for him again, but solely for reasons like these: “No matter how worse it becomes ...” you won’t go far in such a rating.
    .... In Belarus there are no worthy candidates, it’s not like ours ...
  4. +10
    11 July 2020 08: 31
    . will vote for him again, but solely for reasons like these: “No matter how worse it gets

    At this point, it was pricked that the author would now draw an analogy :)))
    1. +3
      11 July 2020 10: 50
      Quote: Avior
      this place pricked that the author will now draw an analogy :)))

      laughing No, it won’t. ..And it would be interesting wink
      1. +2
        11 July 2020 12: 38
        Well, tell me the last name, who then instead of Lukashenko?
        1. -3
          11 July 2020 15: 03
          hi Who is in the place of Lukashenko?
          Yes, you can take any successful director of a private office who knows how to rally professionals around him, and for the scruff of the neck and in a chair! It’s not necessary to be seven spans in the forehead or born on the podium. All with experience comes.
          How much can this limiting populism already.
        2. +3
          11 July 2020 22: 20
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Well, tell me the last name, who then instead of Lukashenko?

          Babariko, Cling.
          But in fact, anyone except him. Here is such a slogan in Belarus.
    2. +5
      11 July 2020 12: 33
      Quote: Avior
      . will vote for him again, but solely for reasons like these: “No matter how worse it gets

      At this point, it was pricked that the author would now draw an analogy :)))

      Don't even hope. This author is politically "correct" oriented. To be willful and to question the support of OUR government and the results of OUR voting is the worst TABOO for him
  5. 0
    11 July 2020 08: 38
    It was said funny about covid. If in the west, excuse me, they eat shit, will you say that this is how it should be? What the fuck is the world experience? We have our own head on our shoulders. Nobody denied the "obvious", the covid is not so terrible, everything was done correctly, to the envy of the same Russian authorities. We must pay tribute to the AG, he showed that he is not, like a listening dog to the teams of world puppeteers.
    1. +16
      11 July 2020 08: 43
      Quote: Garist Pavel
      Nobody denied the "obvious", the covid is not so terrible, everything was done correctly, to the envy of the same Russian authorities.

      May God grant you not to get to know him personally and very "closely" ... believe me, nothing good, and most importantly, what the consequences will be are still not clear ...
      1. -2
        11 July 2020 10: 51
        Quote: svp67
        May God grant you not to get to know him personally and very "closely" ... believe me, nothing good, and most importantly, what the consequences will be are still not clear ...

        The consequences are very terrible .. in fact disability is guaranteed
        1. +6
          11 July 2020 10: 59
          Quote: lonely
          The consequences are very terrible .. in fact disability is guaranteed

          Well, this is with a severe form ... it's good that it does not happen for everyone ... But after all, no one has ever studied the consequences of moderate and mild forms, and no one looked at all "asymptomatic"
          1. +5
            11 July 2020 11: 06
            Quote: svp67
            But after all, not who did not study what the consequences of moderate and mild forms, and even "asymptomatic" in general, no one looked

            Once I saw on TV how they ask a doctor how to treat covid patients .. The answer was devastating: “symptomatic treatment is underway!” And this despite the fact that half of them are asymptomatic belay
            1. +5
              11 July 2020 11: 10
              Quote: lonely
              And this despite the fact that half is asymptomatic

              Unfortunately, this is the case ... In general, there is a firm opinion that while it is summer and warm, and they say that at this time the activity of viruses is sharply reduced, the authorities decided to work out the issue of "obtaining immunity by society" to this disease ... Our statistics are already she herself "got confused" in the testimony and sometimes just removes the numbers that cause big questions ...
            2. +2
              11 July 2020 22: 29
              Quote: lonely
              "symptomatic treatment is underway!" And this despite the fact that half of them are asymptomatic

              You are a little wrong. Now they are trying to prevent thrombosis and support the lungs, relieve sharp intoxication of the body and similar consequences. For it hits an extremely wide range of organs.
              1. +1
                12 July 2020 00: 22
                Quote: TerribleGMO
                You are a little wrong.

                Complaints to the doctor who made this statement. For the rest, I agree with you, this is one of the treatment methods. There is also such a method: patients are injected with the plasma of those who recovered from covid, referring to the fact that antibodies appear in the plasma of those who have recovered who fight the virus. hi
                1. +2
                  12 July 2020 12: 00
                  Quote: lonely
                  who recovered from covid, referring to the fact that in the plasma of those who recovered, antibodies appear that fight the virus.

                  A common practice, in fact, is rarely used to treat common viral diseases, so the method is completely working.
                  But! This is not a panacea and acts more as support for an exhausted and exhausted organism. Unfortunately, in 100% of cases it does not work, here again individually.
                  1. 0
                    12 July 2020 12: 30
                    Quote: TerribleGMO
                    Unfortunately, in 100% of cases it does not work, here again individually.

                    Unconditionally and indisputably hi
        2. +1
          11 July 2020 12: 03
          Quote: lonely
          Quote: svp67
          May God grant you not to get to know him personally and very "closely" ... believe me, nothing good, and most importantly, what the consequences will be are still not clear ...

          The consequences are very terrible .. in fact disability is guaranteed

          Who is destined to drown, he will not hang himself.
    2. +5
      11 July 2020 09: 19
      Quote: Garist Pavel
      It was said funny about covid. If in the west, excuse me, they eat shit, will you say that this is how it should be? What the fuck is the world experience? We have our own head on our shoulders. Nobody denied the "obvious", the covid is not so terrible, everything was done correctly, to the envy of the same Russian authorities. We must pay tribute to the AG, he showed that he is not, like a listening dog to the teams of world puppeteers.

      It’s just that your president didn’t, as it’s put it more mildly, “optimize” your medicine. And in your conditions, everything was really done correctly.
      1. +1
        11 July 2020 22: 31
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        how to put it mildly, "optimize" your medicine. And in your conditions, everything was really done correctly.

        Not. Denial of the problem and rejection of strict quarantine are not the same thing.
    3. +4
      11 July 2020 12: 18
      Is China or Vietnam with strict quarantine also in the west?
    4. +2
      11 July 2020 16: 02
      Quote: Garist Pavel
      What, nafig, world experience? We have our own head on our shoulders.

      About Sweden - “They literally got nothing. It’s a shot in the foot, and they don’t have any economic benefits, ”said Jacob F. Kierkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, DC. https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3005006.html
      At the same time, the kingdom did not actually receive any economic benefits from the lack of quarantine. According to the Swedish central bank, the country's GDP by the end of 2020 will lose 4,5 percent, the unemployment rate in the country has already risen to 9 percent in May from 7,1 in March. For comparison, the Danish authorities expect the country's economy to fall by 4,1 percent this year ... https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/09/sweeden
      This is the Swedes, this is ...
      The ratio of stocks and monthly production over the 12 months worsened from 65,9% to 81,4%. This means that the entire industry of Belarus can be stopped for 24–25 days and deal only with the sale of warehouses .... The highest specific stocks were observed in light industry (4,3 months) and equipment production (4,1 months). In other words, enterprises in these sectors could be stopped for a third of the year to sell off stocks. https://banki24.by/news/4252-rekordnye-skladskie-zapasy-davyat
      As of June 1, in physical terms, the stocks of tractors for agriculture and forestry in Belarus amounted to 5 thousand units (180,7% of the monthly output). Since the beginning of the year, stocks have grown by a thousand units. https://banki24.by/news/4249-prodadut-li-minskiy-traktornyy
      Work worked, only where all this is now ...
  6. +13
    11 July 2020 08: 41
    It is difficult to say how real the 3% support that the local opposition “draws” for Lukashenko today is, but even 76% of the approval from the “secret” official poll is hardly true.
    It all depends not on how they vote, but on how they count ...
    1. +9
      11 July 2020 10: 17
      Why consider anything at all if you can just draw the right ciefera? Every deja vu election laughing
  7. +12
    11 July 2020 08: 45
    Regarding quarantine, I live in Uzbekistan. There is a strict quarantine. Uncle disabled for the fourth month does not receive a pension, because registered in another city, and the roads are blocked, brother, the fourth month without maintenance ... For violation of the regime, wild fines are many times higher than zp. Online training is a complete crap. Prices are rising exorbitantly. There was not much relief, now there are roadblocks again and there is no end in sight. There is no logic in prohibitions. After 23.00 it is forbidden to go into the yards, the virus is more dangerous at night))) public transport is closed. Personal cars only from 07-10, and from 17-20., And a taxi is possible ... but the prices ... People from 65 years old are not allowed to enter the street. And all these prohibitions and restrictions amid job cuts and huge unemployment. So maybe Old Man is right?
    1. +4
      11 July 2020 10: 57
      Quote: makarick
      So maybe Old Man is right?

      I’ll tell you one thing. Not only this in Uzbekistan. There is absolutely no logic, decisions are all belated .. where you need to hurry, move like a turtle. And where you need to wait, reactive speed .. I believe that all this is because the specialist should deal with the problem and you need to listen to him. in Greece.
  8. -6
    11 July 2020 09: 18
    Against the background of operating enterprises, sown fields, clean streets, amazing roads, almost complete absence of crime (at least in comparison with many post-Soviet countries), some lack of freedom seemed a secondary affair.

    The author, there is the Internet, take the information, in it Belarus is one of the three leaders in crime in Europe along with Turkey and Russia. But this is about enterprises working with a salary of 300 cu I will say this, the construction of slaves of the Egyptian pyramids was also a working enterprise. About the rating, come to Belarus and find at least 10 out of a hundred who support Lukashenko.
    1. +6
      11 July 2020 09: 31
      Quote: 6895
      The author, there is the Internet, take the information, in it Belarus is one of the three leaders in crime in Europe along with Turkey and Russia.

      What kind of crime? Give me a reference, please.
      Quote: 6895
      But this is about enterprises working with a salary of 300 cu I will say this, the construction of slaves of the Egyptian pyramids was also a working enterprise.

      300 * 70 = 21000 p., I have an average salary in the city, not counting state employees and superiors 15-17000 p., So that is pretty decent. And the price you have, in my opinion, is slightly lower.
      Quote: 6895
      About the rating, come to Belarus and find at least 10 out of a hundred who support Lukashenko.

      Where are you looking? In what age category? Among the representatives of which class? All this is very conditional.
      1. +13
        11 July 2020 10: 00
        About crime, of course, nonsense.
        Salary of 300 cu only in Minsk and in regional centers. And then not everyone.
        They no longer love Lukashenko .... This is the general mood in society. And with batons, detentions and fines, love cannot be returned.
        1. -2
          11 July 2020 11: 32
          And who do they love? Putin, Trump, Merkel ...? Power love only power. Like this. And Old Man personally respects me, but this is an outside view. I have been to Belarus many times, I like to come to you very much.
          1. +2
            11 July 2020 15: 15
            What father, to whom, respect arouses in him. And in Europe you were there. This infantilism has already gotten like children, the streets are clean, the roads are good nonsense.
            1. +2
              11 July 2020 18: 53
              Quote: 6895
              the streets are clean, the roads are good

              They have been in Belarus since Soviet times.
      2. +1
        11 July 2020 15: 18
        I answer, according to the number of convicts per 1000. about the salary, I write about you slaves who live for food, and if there’s enough for a grant ... I'm not looking, I live here.
        1. -2
          11 July 2020 15: 35
          What is wrong mister administrator
    2. -2
      11 July 2020 11: 51
      In Belarus, people live better than in Russia (excluding Moscow and St. Petersburg). I have a wife from Belarus, all Belolus relatives except one for Lukashenko, 80% of the support is received. (Minsk residents are not among them).
      1. +15
        11 July 2020 12: 59
        I did not want to get into this delicate topic, but ...
        Quote: vprnik
        In Belarus, people live better than in Russia (excluding Moscow and St. Petersburg). I have a wife from Belarus, all Belolus relatives except one for Lukashenko, 80% of the support is received. (Minsk residents are not among them).

        I did not want to interfere in your discussion, but apparently not fate ...
        Here you write 80% ... and Minskers are not there. I agree, though the arithmetic is strange-% 10 of the total population lives in the village in the Republic of Belarus, and this is not only a special electorate but also small grandmothers and children ...
        And if earlier, 20-25 years ago, people of retirement age (we have elderly / old people in the country) really voted for the LAS, then to this day they have not remained, and this is MINUS for him!
        Who was born in 1994 and lives all his life under the banner of a leader, got an education, a train, or (a little bit) around the World and can distinguish black from white, this is MINUS for him.
        Those who were 25-35 years old when the LAS became president gave birth to children, then lost their jobs (five working factories for the whole of Belarus do not count), received a bunch of additional taxes, an increase in the retirement age is for him MINUS.
        And if public people started to be kicked out of work, only because he put on the wrong T-shirt, went to the wrong store at the wrong time, or thought very loudly, this was a MINUS for him.
        No, of course our little hawk will be counted% 70, but ... anyway ,, ... at the end of the path you will have to comb ... ''
      2. +5
        11 July 2020 13: 21
        In large cities alone, support is much less, and in Minsk alone 2,5 million out of 9 with a trifle throughout the country i.e. rural areas and district centers do little to decide. But it’s more important who thinks plus those who often do not go to the polls, not seeing the point (for trust the CEC is near zero). And in terms of living - if it were better there would not have been 700 thousand Belarusians in Russia.
      3. 0
        11 July 2020 15: 20
        This is a tragedy of the Russian people, and not a reason to say that Belarus is good if you live even worse than in Belarus.
        1. +5
          11 July 2020 18: 54
          Everywhere is good, where we are not ...
  9. 0
    11 July 2020 09: 48
    In any case, the residents of Belarus themselves will decide their future fate. The main question is: who are the "accountants"?
    You are noisy, noisy
    Over me bjarozy ...
  10. -4
    11 July 2020 09: 49
    "Against the backdrop of working enterprises, sown fields, clean streets, amazing roads, an almost complete absence of crime (at least in comparison with many post-Soviet countries), some lack of freedom looked like a secondary matter."
    We would have such a president !!!
    1. +7
      11 July 2020 09: 58
      lol Would you have such a president?
      Would you howl in a year, but you were looking for your dear oligarchs begging to return to their homeland begging ... although to whom am I writing this? The pro-sovereign fellow countryman on a salary? wink
      1. -5
        11 July 2020 10: 13
        You, who are vicious against the Soviet Communists and against Lukashenko, always have only the irrational AGAINST their country and people. And no matter who among you becomes instead of Lukashenko, for Belarus and its people everything will become WORSE, and those of you who will vote for it worse than Lukashenko will not take responsibility for imposing it on Belarus and the Belarusian people, as those 45 million RSFSR citizens who in 1991 imposed Yeltsin on Russia and the Russian people did not take responsibility.
  11. 0
    11 July 2020 10: 09
    For a cockroach 30%, a maximum of 20% in Minsk. Here they wrote on a site such as the rzso rzso Flute was tested in the Donbass against the DPR and LPR, although Lukashenka’s oprichniks denied it. The collective farmer understands that if he is thrown off he will live if he has time, but the UAE ah
    1. +2
      11 July 2020 10: 38
      Uncle Izya. And what is different without rudeness we cannot express thoughts ???
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  12. -11
    11 July 2020 10: 28
    Again about Lukashenko. Everything in Belarus is normal. God grant him health. Write better about the Russian political regime and how we, ordinary Russians live in it
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  13. +2
    11 July 2020 11: 18
    I can confidently say that the elections will be held. It is clear that they will attribute it, there they do not hide it too much. The main question is whether he will turn west or east in search of a line of credit. It seems that the United States. And there are specific conditions. Money in exchange for breaking all ties with Russia.
    1. +4
      11 July 2020 15: 26
      Why are you Russians from outer space, which west, Belarus 26 years of his reign methodically milks Russia and, apparently, it will milk for another 5 years. And you sing praises to him.
  14. 0
    11 July 2020 11: 40
    In elections, people do not vote according to the approval-support distribution. There are most often two candidates who can win or score more than others. And often the votes for one of them are just votes against the other.
    Therefore, even with 20-30% of those who approve and support him, Lukashenka can easily win the elections. They will simply vote against the second candidate who, unlike the "dad", is a dark horse.

    To get a forecast for the elections, make comparisons in pairs
    Petrov or Vasechkin
    Smirnov or Ivanov

    So maybe Lukashenko’s situation is worse than before, but not a disaster.
  15. +4
    11 July 2020 11: 43
    Sasha really has no more than 5-6% of support, all the other tsifirki are attributed to a borschevka babaluda. I advise you to come to Minsk and see the mood of the people who went out on the street and they are massively thrown by people in civilian cars, placed around Minsk.
    1. 0
      11 July 2020 15: 06
      Quote: Tolik_74
      look at the mood of people who went out onto the street and they are massively thrown by people in civilian clothes in car wagons located all over Minsk.

      Well, they didn’t throw in Kiev, and what did they get as a result?
  16. +2
    11 July 2020 11: 51
    What kind of public opinion are we talking about? What kind of freedom and democracy? In what country of the world have you met this?
    After all, each public opinion is mainly formed from the means of mos information, as we will be raised by such a result
    And one hundred concerns Lukashenko so we
    repel Belarus with his policies and he only opposes absorption and not the union state
    and such our policy unfortunately pushed Ukrainians and repels Belarusians
    And for some reason it turns out that all around us are bad and we are alone good,
    Or maybe it's time to think about why this happens and what we are doing wrong with respect to the former Soviet republics, such a policy is only for the enemies of Russia, and they will definitely use it
    Or can we pursue this policy intentionally?
    1. -2
      11 July 2020 12: 57
      I agree with the intentional policy. The impression is that our government is intensively breeding enemies from its recent allies and is building an eternally besieged fortress out of Russia. Those. the authorities are strenuously "muddying the water", since it is known that it is easier to "catch a fish" in muddy water.
  17. +1
    11 July 2020 12: 38
    Quote: Tolik_74
    Sasha really has no more than 5-6% of support, all the other tsifirki are attributed to a borschevka babaluda. I advise you to come to Minsk and see the mood of the people who went out on the street and they are massively thrown by people in civilian cars, placed around Minsk.


    Yes, this is a common thing, a liberal or opposition party to cook in their own juice, they listen to each other and quote that outside of the party they do not see or perceive, because only their opinion matters.

    This is not about Belarus but in general including (Russia, USA, Europe)

    Yes, Lukoshenko is unlikely to have 76% percent of support, but far from 5-6% as you write.
    1. +8
      11 July 2020 13: 16
      Quote: Pandiurin
      Quote: Tolik_74
      Sasha really has no more than 5-6% of support, all the other tsifirki are attributed to a borschevka babaluda. I advise you to come to Minsk and see the mood of the people who went out on the street and they are massively thrown by people in civilian cars, placed around Minsk.


      Yes, this is a common thing, a liberal or opposition party to cook in their own juice, they listen to each other and quote that outside of the party they do not see or perceive, because only their opinion matters.

      This is not about Belarus but in general including (Russia, USA, Europe)

      Yes, Lukoshenko is unlikely to have 76% percent of support, but far from 5-6% as you write.

      If we talk about%, that is a very interesting result that shows how many people trust our president (though I can’t understand why the media and Sasha don’t remember about him).
      What am I? And about how, after the extension of spring break, the League of Arab States declared that it was time for the children to go to school, that we had a mustache of good
      And in the end, 20/25 of the students came to classes of 3/4 students, and not all teachers were in a hurry, to burn at work. '' So count ...
      And with all its advantages / disadvantages, he stupidly TIRED us, of course this is for him another MINUS ...
  18. 056
    0
    11 July 2020 13: 18
    Please explain why:
    - nulevik Putin put allegedly for
    the murder of the people's governor Furgal (judging by the rally, people love
    respected and appreciated). Although another governor of Kadyrov killed the first Russian at the age of 16, but for some reason he is not sitting. Where's the justice?
  19. +3
    11 July 2020 13: 31
    Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
    Lukashenko - well done!
    Just look at how he has in recent years, raised the economy of Belarus to unprecedented heights!
    And seafood and rare varieties of vegetables and fruits and even unique industrial products flooded the market of fraternal Russia, with a note made in Belarus.

    "Done" or "Repackaged"?
    1. +1
      11 July 2020 19: 57
      Quote: Trouble
      "Done" or "Repackaged"?

      The buyer will choose, only now even at home somehow ....
      Retail turnover of trade organizations for 3 months amounted to 10,4 billion BYN. Sales of 59,2% of Belarusian goods totaled 6,2 billion BYN. If we compare this share with statistics for previous years, then the share in 2020 will be the lowest. See: in January-March 2013, the share of domestic goods was 70,9%, 2014 - 69,4%, 2015 - 68,9%, 2016 - 65,7%, 2017 - 65,3%, 2018 - 63,1%, 2019 - 61,7%. https://banki24.by/news/4149-belorusy-vse-rezhe-pokupayut
  20. +5
    11 July 2020 13: 33
    The real level of support is somewhere in the region of 20-30% most likely. Because pensioners are his main electorate + civil servants and security officials + their families = +/- such a percentage. Plus the CEC that can do what it wants. The problem is that there are no pro-Russian candidates in Belarus. All his competitors are pro-Western (even the most moderate of them were not allowed to Tsepkalo). And the choice is this: either Lukashenko and slow departure to the west and slow Belarusization, or the same thing, but faster.
  21. +6
    11 July 2020 14: 02
    "76%" "for" Lukashenko in Belarus - those days are long gone ... As for "3%" - too much ... I think so - judging by the words of my acquaintances, friends and relatives from Belarus - solid "33%" he has... hi
    He just went too far ... on the one hand, for those young people who were born after 1991, they did nothing to make the new generation live well ... on the other hand, the generation born in the USSR hates him, that he "bites Russia" for or without reason and litters our countries from scratch ...
    I think that the "father" will have enough administrative resources to win the elections - well, then "how the curve will take out" wassat On two chairs do not sit him ... bully
  22. +2
    11 July 2020 14: 07
    In Ukraine, Lukashenko is treated, in most cases, with respect.
    But the author's thesis that "Europe" is grateful to Lukashenka for the fact that crowds of migrant workers do not come from Belarus is complete nonsense. Cheap labor contributes to the development of the economy in Eastern Europe, and of course it is more profitable for a newcomer to pay a visitor three times less than a local one. Poland is a great example.
    1. +6
      11 July 2020 14: 30
      Quote: Andrey Vasilievich
      In Ukraine, Lukashenko is treated, in most cases, with respect.
      But the author's thesis that "Europe" is grateful to Lukashenka for the fact that crowds of migrant workers do not come from Belarus is complete nonsense. Cheap labor contributes to the development of the economy in Eastern Europe, and of course it is more profitable for a newcomer to pay a visitor three times less than a local one. Poland is a great example.

      God sees - did not want to swear hi
      If about Ukraine - according to my information - there they treat him like ... uh ... a "woman of easy virtue" who "gives both ours and yours" bully While "gives" - they are sooo even respectful laughing
      This post is my personal IMHO !!! It’s not necessary to ban me for this !!! good drinks
      1. -1
        11 July 2020 15: 11
        Quote: Corona without virus
        If about Ukraine - according to my information - there they treat him like ... uh ... a "woman of easy virtue" who "gives both ours and yours

        Where did you get such information? In the villages (and there are a lot of them in Ukraine), they only dream of Lukashenka. "Master" because. If there were elections for Lukashenko or Putin in Ukraine, then Lukashenko would have won them
        1. +1
          11 July 2020 20: 23
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: Corona without virus
          If about Ukraine - according to my information - there they treat him like ... uh ... a "woman of easy virtue" who "gives both ours and yours

          Where did you get such information? In the villages (and there are a lot of them in Ukraine), they only dream of Lukashenka. "Master" because. If there were elections for Lukashenko or Putin in Ukraine, then Lukashenko would have won them

          Well, I have in Ukraine at least a dozen or two relatives and many friends and acquaintances - I wrote from their opinions hi
  23. +2
    11 July 2020 14: 40
    Rygorych, of course, did not have 3 or 76%, but somewhere in the middle. After the election we find out how much. The second round is possible. But, I believe, he will remain president. The main thing is not the election. The main thing is WHAT he will do later.
    1. -4
      11 July 2020 15: 13
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      The main thing is not the election. The main thing is WHAT he will do later.

      +1500 !!!! BUT, I personally respect him very much for the fact that he did hold the May 9 parade. So how is it? Then there was a surge of the virus? Something in the media did not meet data on this subject
    2. +2
      11 July 2020 23: 07
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      After the election we find out how much.

      But we don’t find out, “our people” are in the election commissions and they did not allow strangers at all. Ten thousand out of tens of thousands have passed - what is that? Taking into account the fact that there are a lot of free places for their adoption, there would be enough for everyone.
  24. +2
    11 July 2020 17: 36
    Believe me, I judge firsthand. I happened to be there more than once and communicate with a variety of people.


    In order to objectively judge, one must live there and in general this is the business of the Belarusian people, and as for our assessment, from the outside, I’ll say briefly - I’m tired ... he is like that woman who dreams of being half pregnant ...
  25. +1
    11 July 2020 20: 14
    You know, the situation is really twofold.
    "Against the backdrop of working enterprises, sown fields, clean streets, amazing roads, almost complete absence of crime (at least in comparison with many post-Soviet countries)"
    For this, honor and respect.
    “With Ukraine it is a little more complicated. There is a twofold attitude towards Lukashenka: on the one hand, he is friends with Russia or, in any case, he does not openly enmity. so many other things, with the help of which at least to some extent it is possible to bypass Russian sanctions? "
    On the other hand, for example, this ...
    If you are an ally, then be him to the end. Otherwise, I can never take a guy to the mountains.
    Yon will sell and leave me for nothing.
    As a politician, to a certain extent, I understand him; as a politician, I do not understand to a certain extent. On a number of issues.
  26. +1
    11 July 2020 20: 57

    We read comments, here is the rating
  27. +5
    11 July 2020 21: 17
    Quote: Egoza
    BUT, I personally respect him very much for the fact that he did hold the May 9 parade. So how is it? Then there was a surge of the virus? Something in the media did not meet data on this subject

    And the "Immortal Regiment" banned under the threat of coronavirus.
    There was no surge. According to Rygorich, there was a significant decrease in the incidence of pneumonia after the parade. what
    1. +5
      11 July 2020 23: 10
      Quote: Trouble
      There was no surge. According to Rygorich, there was a significant decrease in the incidence of pneumonia after the parade.

      No testing - no coronovirus. Pneumonia and pneumonia in July are not coronovirus, it's that simple wassat Only in hospitals there are no and no empty beds.
  28. -3
    11 July 2020 21: 58

    Against the background of operating enterprises, sown fields, clean streets, amazing roads, almost complete absence of crime (at least in comparison with many post-Soviet countries), some lack of freedom seemed a secondary affair


    If you are not residents of Belarus, then these statements can be considered the norm, but pass this off as the opinion of its residents? Only a part of pensioners and ardent supporters of bows think this way (security officials, bureaucrats and close associates).

    Enterprises that did not close work at a perpetual loss (state-owned, of course, a private trader in our conditions will hardly survive). Sown fields are of course good, but the fact that the sown crop often rots unharvested, not very much. As well as what is being sown "anyhow it was, otherwise Luke will see from the helicopter and fire him." And the characteristics of the soils and sown crops were spat on from the big bell tower.

    Or can the introduction of crop rotation with radionuclide contamination forgive? SUDDENLY it is necessary to slightly change the rate upwards and products from contaminated areas cannot be distinguished from ordinary ones.

    Clean streets are the concern of local services and perhaps not much that is a plus. Clean and quiet (like in a morgue).

    And what about crimes? Here you can kill a person and stay free without serving a single day, because the law is not written for the "presidential staff", and the bank secretary for "tax evasion" is hidden in the KGB pre-trial detention center. Haha.


    even in a state of stability.

    Call it right, stagnation. Or stably dead - this is also suitable.

    Now, citizens who saw their future in the Union State with Russia are also opposed to it (and, believe me, there are a lot of such people in Belarus).


    Quite a little, do not flatter yourself. Nobody wants in your reality. Economic level and salary probably. Live in Russia? Not.
    1. -1
      12 July 2020 19: 59
      With fervor, contradictions and stupidity, the young recruits came straight to the "fifth column", but they consider themselves "patriots".
  29. -3
    11 July 2020 22: 18
    If we had the FATHER at the helm, then we would be on a par with China and the USA. Russia's resources and will
    Old men would raise Russia to the level of the USSR. And now we are only rising in the number of bourgeois billionaires.
    1. 0
      13 July 2020 17: 54
      If you had one, then there were more ice palaces in Russia than in the whole world! I will not talk about the economy in the ass. You look at how hockey coaches, a sergeant from an all-metal shell in goblin translation, bring up preschool children, a wimp! So arrogant, unprincipled, and believing that they all owe them lumpen, believe me, I had to deal with such, probably in this sport otherwise nothing ..
  30. 0
    11 July 2020 22: 19
    Just non-introduction of quarantine and support. Nothing more
  31. 0
    12 July 2020 12: 02
    All this is lyricism, Belarus has its own elite and its oligarchs from power, there is no social equality at all ..... therefore there is no need to raise a storm in a glass .... just the mentality is a little different .... everyone is quietly silent. ... lay new tiles, cut lawns and plant flowers ...
  32. -2
    12 July 2020 16: 22
    All the Old Man gentlemen of the Kremlin bot bot gives you no peace? Take a look at yourself as they express confidence in Khabarovsk
  33. +1
    12 July 2020 19: 19
    About Babariko and Lukashenko:
    Once a chess player suggested that a hockey player play a game of chess. After the first move E2-E4, made by a chess player, the hockey player got up and stupidly put down all the pieces from the board with a stick. So ... chess players start and lose.
    Clean streets, sown fields, the absence of crime - this is certainly wonderful. And, no doubt, this is the merit of the hockey player.
    But time does not stand still. The country must develop, move on. And here the hockey player’s abilities become insufficient.
    The country needs a chess player.
    People feel this, and when Babariko arose, the people saw in him that very chess player.
    I think the hockey player will gain no more than 20% in the elections, but he has a "stick" - the Central Election Commission, the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, state media, Putin's support. And therefore the hockey player will win an "elegant" victory, gaining at least 75% of the vote.
    The people of Belarus have no choice but to wait - "either the donkey will die, or the padishah." There is no third.
    Very sorry.
  34. -1
    13 July 2020 14: 00
    I think that what we have there, the results and attitude towards our kings are about the same ..
    Well, and they, of course, will speak exclusively about "nationwide support" ..
    Two of a Kind..
  35. +2
    13 July 2020 17: 38
    Snuffboxes in Minsk are all as one with 3% inscriptions and a cockroach stop, inscriptions are erased but new ones appear almost immediately). In my work, I constantly deal with security officials and I doubt very much their loyalty to the current government; most people will not shoot at people and there’s no hacking with sticks. There is information that Lukashenko is moving around the country in three helicopters, which is quite logical from a security point of view and not a large delegation, which means he is afraid! In terms of relations with Russia, the best option is Babariko, but Tsepkalo is not bad. We perceive complete non-interference in the election campaign by Russia as if the current chapter is not interesting to the Kremlin at all, it’s simpler - I got everyone there.
    1. -1
      14 July 2020 07: 48
      Full tryndezh, trolls and climbed here. So on many resources - for 1 reasonable opinion - 10 stamped from manuals
  36. +1
    13 July 2020 20: 38
    Nonsense and not an article. According to coronavirus - we all look at the Republic of Belarus and learn by aspiration! Well, only a handful of limited people call him a cockroach. They can be ignored as an insignificant temporary phenomenon.
    At the expense of dictatorship - he is far from Vova. I also write not by hearsay.
    1. -1
      15 July 2020 19: 45
      ABOUT! The paid lukotroll has wandered ... Russians do not use the abbreviation "RB" ... A cockroach, he is a cockroach ... What do you learn there "aspirated", write comments for a fee? Yesterday the whole Minsk was honking with horns. Is everyone limited except you? Still not ill with the "crown"? In Minsk, every second already has ... And a dictator is a dictator, the Belarusian is no better than others ...
  37. +2
    16 July 2020 15: 43

    Well, in fact, Belarusians no longer have an option of some rapid economic prosperity - there is either an option for Lukashenko or his analogue - or chaos and war ....
    All other options are either deception of Belarusians from outside or self-deception of Belarusians themselves ...
    1. 0
      17 July 2020 17: 41
      Yes, somewhere like that.
  38. 0
    20 July 2020 00: 48
    "3%" is a "black mark" (of the West) for Lukashenka. At first he did not understand, he was even offended, yes, how so, I, not only "my own", but also the current president, but then something became clear to him, probably that he was banal "sentenced". And what remains to be done, Alexander Grigorievich took up, as they say, his mind. It turned out well, even Navalny noted this.

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