Ukraine asked NATO to strengthen presence in the Black Sea

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Ukraine asked NATO to strengthen presence in the Black Sea

The North Atlantic Alliance agreed to strengthen the presence of its forces in the Black Sea region, such a decision was made following a telephone conversation between NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Taran.

According to reports, the head of the Ukrainian military department Andriy Taran and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, during a telephone conversation, came to the conclusion that the situation in the Black Sea region is deteriorating due to the significant strengthening of Russia, which "is changing the balance of forces in the region." The parties agreed to strengthen NATO's presence in the region.



The parties agreed to strengthen the presence of forces on the land, sea and in the airspace of the Black Sea region by increasing air patrols and the presence of naval ships of the alliance’s member countries

- said in a statement posted on the website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

In addition, the parties agreed on the exchange of operational information on the situation in the region. Taran also invited NATO forces to take part in the exercises scheduled for this fall and should be held in southern Ukraine.

Earlier, Ukraine received the status of partner for NATO enhanced capabilities. Kiev intends to use this status to expand its intelligence database on the situation in the Black Sea and on the Crimean peninsula.
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    1. +7
      10 July 2020 10: 17
      Ukraine asked NATO to strengthen presence in the Black Sea

      Honestly, not even funny. Any NATO trough in the Black Sea for Russia is simply a goal that can be destroyed at any time.
      And what is Ukraine spreading wider there and how deeply has NATO entered there - this is already food for the oral balancing act of anti-Russian hysteria smile
      1. +8
        10 July 2020 10: 20
        Quote: Thrall
        Any NATO trough in the Black Sea for Russia is simply a goal that can be destroyed at any time.

        "Trough" then it may be "trough", but near our house ... but we cannot yet boast of such activity
        1. -3
          10 July 2020 10: 22
          Quote: svp67
          can't brag

          Because they are accustomed to "wet" uninvited guests in their own toilets smile
          1. +2
            10 July 2020 10: 45
            Quote: Thrall
            Because they are accustomed to "wet" uninvited guests in their own toilets

            In the meantime, we have the resource consumption of our warships to accompany these "guests" ...
            Distraction from tasks in the Mediterranean and the Sea of ​​Azov ...
            It would be necessary to increase the number of "peaceful seiners" in the Black Sea Fleet, so as not to drive warships every time
        2. -1
          10 July 2020 10: 38
          We are again discussing the “wet” dreams of under-statehood.
          There is a Montreux convention ... which is respected! Well, ask - let them ask, now the poor are not particularly favored. wink
          1. +6
            10 July 2020 10: 40
            Volodya watched vigilantly into the distance
            Commander-in-chief considered the watch gloomily
            And in the sea everything was naughty "Moskal"
            They did not know in Kiev what to think ...
            There is no NATO on the horizon
            Over the horizon, too, no
            Where is the thunder of victories from the alliance?
            Who will call Moscow to account?
            And only Jens knew the answers
            (but it is strictly between us)
            He kind of promised something
            But the words diverged with deeds ...
            wink drinks
            1. +3
              10 July 2020 10: 55
              Here ... these oaths Moskali
              They don’t want to take us prisoner ...
              Not much at all and go ...
              pick strawberries in Poland.
              But take revenge on the aggressors
              A flock of Neptune and Two
              We will launch bridges across Crimea
              Let past, but raise the spirit!
              We calmly build along the border
              Flying a white flag although not
              Under the rainbow - are the capitals ... of Europe
              Well, We are no worse ... no.
              Even under the gay flag
              Scaring Muscovites - a parade
              We are in Sevastopol on a trip
              We’ll come ... deftly deceiving everyone laughing
              1. -3
                10 July 2020 11: 59
                you local Trolls Ukrainians minus))))
          2. +4
            10 July 2020 10: 54
            Respected.
            But there are Black Sea countries of NATO, the use of rotation, and the Convention does not apply to aviation.
          3. +1
            10 July 2020 11: 15
            "Ukraine asked NATO to strengthen its presence in the Black Sea"
            All foreign policy of Ukraine is based on "asked" - asked to impose sanctions. Asked for weapons. Asked to intercede. Asked to podeozhat ...... Without the support of Western countries and the United States. - as soon as they leave her ... and her whole policy will collapse ...
            1. +1
              10 July 2020 12: 32
              Ukraine asks the West to support the revision of the Minsk agreements
              10.07.2020/XNUMX/XNUMXLeave a comment on Ukraine asks the West to support the revision of the Minsk agreements
              The West should support the revision of the Minsk agreements to resolve the situation in the Donbass, since they (the agreements) no longer reflect the reality, said Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine, Minister for Reintegration of Temporarily Occupied Territories Aleksey Reznikov.

              Reznikov expressed the corresponding opinion in an article for the Atlantic Council, fragments of which are quoted on July 9 by Ukrainian media. Https: //www.belvpo.com/113844.html/
        3. +1
          10 July 2020 11: 01
          Quote: svp67
          "Trough" then it may be "trough", but near our house ... but we cannot yet boast of such activity

          And then there were spies, right under their side appeared.
        4. +1
          10 July 2020 11: 03
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Thrall
          Any NATO trough in the Black Sea for Russia is simply a goal that can be destroyed at any time.

          "Trough" then it may be "trough", but near our house ... but we cannot yet boast of such activity

          Don't you think we are bragging about our passivity? To do this, you just need to have a sufficient number of carriers of large beaters. What did the poet say there? "From here we will threaten ...." Not "hotel". It's much more efficient, and on our budget.
        5. 0
          10 July 2020 11: 08
          And why, here’s the question, Russia, a country that is not an aggressor, but it will not forgive itself, I somehow think so
      2. 0
        10 July 2020 21: 40
        Quote: Thrall
        Any NATO trough in the Black Sea for Russia is simply a goal that can be destroyed at any time.

        In the same way, NATO can respond by raising aircraft from Romanian and Bulgarian airfields
    2. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 18
      And she asked nothing more?
      1. +1
        10 July 2020 10: 53
        Quote: El Dorado
        And she asked nothing more?

        Asked - money ... well, as always
        1. -1
          10 July 2020 11: 01
          Quote: svp67
          Asked - money ... well, as always

          Espionage is also a business.
    3. +3
      10 July 2020 10: 25
      The situation is heating up. Annoyingly. But if the Americans stood in the Crimea, it would be immeasurably worse.
    4. +9
      10 July 2020 10: 26
      In order to really threaten the south of Russia, NATO ships generally do not make sense to go into the Black Sea. A hypothetical blow can also be made from the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea ...
      And all these calls of individual ships to the ports of Ukraine and Georgia are just a political action. Playing on the nerves of some and the ephemeral appearance of supporting others ..
      1. +2
        10 July 2020 22: 15
        Quote: Doccor18
        A hypothetical blow can also be made from the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea ...

        It is still more profitable to deliver a hypothetical blow from the waters of Bulgaria or even Odessa. At such an important moment, the anti-submarine escorted by 2 fighters will not even be an emergency, but a usual bunch. I don’t know how NATO works in moving coastal Rcomplexes. But I’m guessing in air defense / missile defense. They’ll send a shooter and at that moment not 1, as usual, but 3 reconnaissance complexes will start to pick up the coordinates of the targets .. And behind them the first echelon rolls down, shoots them out clearly radiations, the second echelon enters the zone to gain superiority and wanders off radiating ground targets. Departing quickly or with a sharp vertical maneuver, the second echelon frees up space for the third. echelons, divisions do not have time to recharge.
        It should be noted that in the 3rd wave the F-15/16/35/22 / fighters can already act as clean sky defenders if the air defense zones are suppressed and they can carry the body kit purely for air combat. Although the F-22 is declared as a pure air fighter --- these are all words, maybe. Americans are promoting the system such that it doesn’t matter which platform it launches, the most convenient platform will take control and strike. Therefore, with such a system, the system itself poses the greatest threat.
    5. +1
      10 July 2020 10: 27
      Another attempt to sell its territory under US bases
      1. 0
        10 July 2020 11: 05
        Quote: APASUS
        Another attempt to sell its territory under US bases

        They sold the land, it remains to sell the base.
    6. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 28
      Ukraine asked
      Normal countries and states, if something does not suit them, they do, and Ukraine and the like, just ask. And solely for the purpose not to help yourself, but to screw up others. The question is, what the hell are such "states" needed?
      1. +1
        10 July 2020 11: 06
        Quote: orionvitt
        and Ukraine and the like, only ask.

        "All my life with an outstretched hand."
      2. +1
        10 July 2020 11: 07
        Quote: orionvitt
        The question is, what the hell are such "states" needed?

        To pick in the stove, you need to protect your hands with a poker. They do not understand the full-term ones that if the heat in the stove is VERY, they can leave the poker there until it cools down to an acceptable level.
    7. +1
      10 July 2020 10: 29
      it is logical to expect new provocations
      1. +2
        10 July 2020 11: 09
        Quote: Balu
        it is logical to expect new provocations

        Yesterday, on the news, Biden and Poroshenko talked about the terrorism of Ukraine, where Biden Pete stuck. So provocations are expected, and the attacks are in question.
    8. +2
      10 July 2020 10: 29
      situation in the Black Sea region is deteriorating due to the significant strengthening of Russia
      And if Russia were weak, then the situation in this region would be excellent - so perhaps it is worth understanding Stoltenberg? Another thing is interesting - one (Taran) asked to strengthen the group, the other (NATO Secretary General) immediately strengthened it. Does the NATO chief have the right to single-handedly make decisions on the unplanned redeployment of forces and equipment? So the event was planned long ago and has nothing to do with the Ukrainian request. With the first, as well as his subordinates, the "gad daddy" is understandable - for them it is supposed to shit Russia for them according to their position.
      1. +1
        10 July 2020 11: 03
        Quote: rotmistr60
        But does the chief chief of NATO have the right to single-handedly make decisions on unplanned redeployment of forces and assets?

        It is clear that this is a decision that has already taken place, to which they simply decided to give some legitimacy, "we were asked ..."
      2. +1
        10 July 2020 11: 13
        Quote: rotmistr60
        But does the chief chief of NATO have the right to single-handedly make decisions on unplanned redeployment of forces and assets?

        "Wedding General" can only produce voice acting for the owners, but no more. When Tuzik barks at passers-by more than the owner allows, Tuzik is admonished with a boot, and along the ribs.
    9. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 30
      Ukraine asked NATO to strengthen presence in the Black Sea

      By transferring an extra batch of baseball caps.
    10. +1
      10 July 2020 10: 34
      How many bottom will Ukraine break through in trying to annoy the Russian Federation? It remains only to sell their land under the base and various landfills.
    11. +1
      10 July 2020 10: 37
      Whatever, God forgive me, Ukraine ... peace in any region is ensured by a balance of forces. In recent years, Russia has really dramatically advanced in combat power, including the navy. Let them catch up with their tongues sticking out, this is useful. Ideally, of course, all normal people would like a partially demilitarized Black Sea, but the situation in the world does not allow to relax.
    12. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 38

      The angle and the plot of the shooting are impressive and, according to the plan, should have a strong effect, - warships are passing in front of the sea wolf of the Outskirts, bravura music and the voice of the announcer sound behind the scenes:
      "
      1. 0
        10 July 2020 11: 25
        Quote: Vladimir61
        The view and plot of the shooting is impressive and, by design, should produce a strong effect, - warships pass in front of the sea wolf.

        And when he was a good kid, he told funny stories, even he liked me then.
      2. 0
        10 July 2020 13: 42
        Quote: Vladimir61
        The view and plot of the shooting is impressive and, by design, should produce a strong effect, - warships pass in front of the sea wolf.

        NATO, of course, the question is how many of them are actually combat ... judging by last year - "The published report of the Ukrainian Naval Command indicates that only six units of the Ukrainian Navy are ready to carry out combat missions. 77% of the ship-and-boat personnel require repair and replacement of failed equipment "https://riafan.ru/1291746-nazvano-chislo-boesposobnykh-korablei-vms-ukrainy
      3. 0
        11 July 2020 11: 31
        Vladimir61 (Vladimir) Yesterday, 10:38
        The view and plot of the shooting is impressive
        And to the right behind the green - Fantomas stands. Neither give nor take it the most! bully wink
    13. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 51
      Now they will fire at the bridge, ports and hide behind the NATO guests. Isn't it time to move on to preventive measures?
      1. -3
        10 July 2020 10: 55
        Is it time to move on to preventive measures?

        Does NATO ships proactively sink?
        1. 0
          11 July 2020 07: 35
          Why? To gouge the place of deployment to hell and drown the "fleet" of nenki. NATO members will dump themselves at the first real threat. There are precedents.
    14. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 52
      Yes, don’t! A black puddle from the Russian coast is shot through! Ukraine invites its owners to defeat, is that so? Vernyak, they work for the Russian military industry ....
    15. 0
      10 July 2020 10: 59
      And what about the photo in the upper left corner? They unscrewed something ...
    16. +1
      10 July 2020 11: 27
      about the presence in the Black Sea
      The Navy of the Republic of Bulgaria conducts from July 10 to 19 the national naval exercise "Breeze 2020", open to the participation of the Navy from NATO member countries. The exercises are planned and will be conducted in accordance with NATO standards and procedures. It is held in the territorial sea, the adjacent zone and the exclusive economic zone of the Republic of Bulgaria and at the training grounds that were announced at the time.

      The exercises are attended by 9 countries with 27 warships and auxiliary ships and boats, 2 aircraft, 7 helicopters and 2413 military personnel from the naval forces of Bulgaria, Belgium, Georgia, Greece, Italy, Spain, Romania, the USA, Turkey, France and the Second NATO Permanent Naval Group (SNMG-2) and NATO's Second Permanent Mine Action Group (SNMCMG2). as well as 117 people from 24 government organizations, institutions and institutions from 4 ministries, local authorities, non-governmental and private organizations. The headquarters for the management of the exercises deployed at the base station of the flotilla in Burgas warships and support ships.
    17. -2
      10 July 2020 12: 23
      Earlier, Ukraine received the status of partner for NATO enhanced capabilities.

      Well, now Ukraine can spread its legs even wider, so that it would be more convenient for NATE to start "having her as a member." feel
    18. 0
      10 July 2020 12: 39
      Well, they’ll come, well, they’ll spin. All the same, they will not fight for Ukraine. In vain they hope to sit behind NATO’s back. They will put on inflatable boats the sailors of Ukraine in the forefront.
    19. 0
      10 July 2020 13: 15
      The Alliance has agreed to strengthen its presence in the Black Sea region,

      They’ll send a couple more minesweepers ... they’re not fools, they don’t want to anger the big med one more time. In an extreme case, many, many rolls of special paper will be brought to the suffering and they will express something there ... and u!
    20. 0
      10 July 2020 13: 58
      "Napoleon" needs to fix his cap. Yes
      1. +1
        11 July 2020 11: 32
        Prisoner (Ayrat) Yesterday, 13:58 NEW
        "Napoleon" needs to fix his cap. yes
        Together with the head. Although the head can be separately. wink
    21. 0
      10 July 2020 14: 30
      And who in the world will respect these nerds for such requests, even if they themselves meet them?
    22. +1
      10 July 2020 19: 05
      The Alliance has agreed to strengthen its presence in the Black Sea region.

      Really!
      How all the same it is right that Crimea is ours!

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