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Black redistribution, white issue and new anarchy

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Anarchy is immortal. This becomes clear as soon as big shocks occur in the world. Nestor Makhno also said that it is possible to shoot all anarchists, but it is impossible to destroy anarchy. The ideology of the denial of power coming from above, and the struggle for the liberation of man from all forms of oppression will always find a response in hearts and minds.


A ghost wanders ...


The pandemic, quarantine, and especially their consequences with the Maidan “in an American way” raised such a foam that resuscitation of anarchism was almost inevitable. So far, not as a clear program of action, but ... The contrast between decisions and actions of authorities at various levels turned out to be too convincing in spring and early summer 2020.

And it is no longer surprising that it was at the lowest levels that things never differed with words, where people found real help and support. And the higher the power level, regardless of which country, the more mediocre and straightforward both decisions and concrete actions were. Let us leave China behind the brackets with its unique law-abidingness of the masses and so far the dubious results of the battle with COVID-19.

When the “white question” so sharply arose in the United States and in many countries of the old continent, it became clear that the ghost was wandering around Europe again. But not communism, but, most likely, anarchism. The image of anarchy and anarchists was successfully vulgarized by Soviet cinema, but this did not prevent the anarchy from being reborn over and over again as an ideology in demand.


In Russia, anarchism always woke up locally, but around the world - regularly and very effectively. Although the "revivalists" just as regularly and aggressively replicated precisely their cinematic image. But Europe, by the way, using concrete examples in Spain of the 30s, nevertheless, managed to accumulate some practical experience for a different perception of anarchy.

And along with this, and to understand that even in the most simplified view, anarchism does not at all imply a complete denial of all power. It is primarily about the priority of lower-level authorities over higher authorities, to which only the most important functions are delegated, those that are not delegated to the top are simply impossible.

From the encyclopedic definition of the ideology of anarchism, which was based on the ideas of P. A. Kropotkin, it follows:

“Anarchism rejects only coercive law, not the law in general. Since the cultural environment is part of a person’s self-identification, and the law protects the cultural environment, people have the right to live under the rule of law if they want to. ”

Most crises of the beginning of the third millennium almost invariably led to a jump in the popularity of leftist ideas, primarily Marxist ones. However, the mass unrest that has swept both the old continent and its overseas branches today does not bear clear signs of a class struggle. And this despite the fact that the poor seem to be once again ready to confront the rich.

The current protests themselves, which are extremely massive, are not so much provoked by a pandemic and the direct consequences of global quarantine as they represent (after several weeks of “struggle”) a primitive release of steam. And in this situation, the demand for forgotten ideological models is always growing by leaps and bounds.

Little power does not happen much


It was no coincidence that many people were delighted with the unexpectedly high efficiency of “small power”, with which the whole world was able to visually become acquainted with the wave of self-isolation and salvation of destroyed social medicine. It is no longer a secret that COVID-19 was best handled in small countries, for example, in Iceland, Andorra, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg.

Against the backdrop of a real tragedy in northern Italy, they managed to avoid terrible losses in the tiny San Marino, which was almost at the epicenter of the coronavirus crisis. The negative exception in the form of the Principality of Monaco is primarily due to the fact that there was not, and still is not, any real opportunity to close the borders.

The reason for this, by the way. the suspicious loyalty of the principality’s authorities to gentlemen who regularly and publicly opposed the presence of a “rogue” in Monte Carlo.

Real successes and achievements in the fight against COVID-19 are no secret to anyone, and in addition, the enviable proximity to the people of hundreds and thousands of “helmsmen” in the field. “Helmsmen,” unknown to anyone in the big media. But they were armed with all the best that was and was in anarchism, and about which most Russians have no idea whatsoever.

However, with the foam after quarantine to the surface surfaced and all is not the best either. What is worth at least all these dances around the coffin of an inveterate felon with the setting fire to a couple dozen American states. Or mass buying up weapons in a quiet, loyal and turbid brainwashing California. But this is also a ghost of anarchism, brought to the absolute, when there is already nothing above an individual person. Not even families - individuals!

And this despite the fact that in the USA there are “more trunks than goals” for a long time, but this did not deprive every local sheriff of a full and unconditional credit of trust from the sponsored population. Now it seems that deprived. Well, with the trust in the police there, for many years things have been much worse than in Europe and even Russia.

The bewildered man in the street, who is not eager to go out with Molotov's cocktail, wants to catch on. For something. Faith helps not everyone. To recall Marx or Che Guevara is already old, not fashionable for a long time, and as they say, "it will not work." Under the leftist kookies, there was almost no more proletariat left who had nothing to lose but their chains.

Today, the public is simply frankly disappointed in all kinds of “liberty ideas,” which directly lead the “golden billion” to extinction. Well, those who are smarter do not hide their desire to learn or remember what the great anarchists once unsuccessfully tried to teach the world, starting with Bakunin and Kropotkin and ending with Commander Che.


At the origins of anarchism


By the way, the latter generally rejected the ideas of anarchism, leaning more toward the victorious in Celestial Maoism, but in practice he realized the ideas of global anarchy right up to the notorious export of revolution. But many are now very attracted by the plain explanation of the foundations of anarchy, where, excuse me for repeating, the lower the level of power, the higher the level of its competence.

We repeat: practical anarchy is when only that which cannot be transferred there is transmitted upstairs. It is no coincidence that leaflets with a short course of the anarchist, and not the terrorist bombers, are more demanded than ever at current demonstrations and mass actions. Forced to repeat again, but in Russia the familiar image of the anarchist is still not forgotten.


Anarchists. Frame from the movie "Emergency Order"

The image of the unbridled urban morphinist or the drunken sailor was either from the battleship, or from the low-speed barge, created by Soviet cinema and spread around the world. While campaigning for anarchy, or rather, for the priority of the lower powers, the real anarchists in terms of discipline and organization could give a hundred points ahead to any political rival.

Recall in conclusion two characteristic episodes. When in February 1921, Prince Kropotkin, the recognized leader of not only Russian but also world anarchism, died in Dmitrov, near Moscow, the Bolsheviks decided to make a broad gesture. They released from prison all the famous anarchists who were ready to carry the coffin with the body of Peter Alekseevich to Moscow itself.


Grave of P. A. Kropotkin at the Novodevichy Cemetery

Kropotkin said goodbye for two days: hundreds of delegations arrived from Moscow factories, factories and institutions, thousands of ordinary people came. Anarchists, including prisoners, who, after the funeral at the Novodevichy cemetery, all in an organized manner returned to their cells, stood on the guard of honor near the tomb.

Another example is connected with the civil war in Spain, when the anarcho-syndicalists, who relied on the self-government of factories, factories and rural communities, turned out to be no less stubborn fighters for "Red Spain" than the communists. One of their legendary leaders, Buenaventura Durutti, was at the head of the three-thousandth “iron column”, which was distinguished by truly iron discipline, which almost recaptured Zaragoza from the Francoists.

Western historians call this native of Aragonese Leon, a Catalan metalworker, simply a bandit, but it was he, along with his comrades-in-arms, who heroically fought for Madrid. Durutti fell from the traitor's bullet in 1936, when it was still very far from the defeat of the republic.

By the way, a politician such as Vladimir Ulyanov-Lenin, who was prone to ruthless dictatorship, was no stranger to the best ideas of anarchism. The phrase attributed to him about the cook sounds in the work “Will the Bolsheviks Hold State Power” in a slightly different way:

"We know that any laborer and any cook are unable to immediately take control of the state."



The fact that Mayakovsky remade it into his famous one: “We will learn how to cook a state for each cook” is not as important as the fact that in a known form Lenin attributed the phrase to none other than Trotsky. The idea of ​​attracting the masses to the management system is important in itself. Starting, of course, from below, which, incidentally, was to be brought to life under the Soviet regime - the power of the Soviets.

But in fact, a good cook is, in fact, that same effective manager, probably better than those whom we in Russia have been intensively planting in management for many years. And the state, and all that is possible and impossible. It is difficult to judge how the best ideas of anarchism have worked in our days: propaganda clearly ignores this topic. But the fact that they are again in demand is a fact, it seems, is already indisputable.
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  1. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 July 2020 06: 02 New
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    Anarchism may revive, but in more civilized countries than the United States, in which black people can be considered anarchists. And as the civil war showed, all the ideas of anarchism were turned into robberies and unjustified mindless killings, an example of the same Makhno, Muravyov, Nikiforova, Grigoriev. And knowing the mentality of African Americans, and seeing what is happening, it will turn out not anarchism, but, as always, robbery, violence, terrorism.
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 10 July 2020 06: 46 New
      12
      So anarchy is
      robbery, violence, terrorism.
      1. smaug78
        smaug78 10 July 2020 09: 45 New
        +4
        Proudhon, Spanish anarchists, Makhno look at you perplexedly ...
        1. dauria
          dauria 10 July 2020 14: 11 New
          +4
          Proudhon, Spanish anarchists, Makhno look at you perplexedly ...

          Let them watch. There are many incorrect scientific ideas that history buried.
          Anarchy is not even a way to build a state, but just a symptom of the disease of that state. No more. And outwardly they appear as robberies, violence, terrorism. America simply "dubbed" - at the top of the divide during the division. It settles down - and the worms calm down (or rather they will calm down).
          1. smaug78
            smaug78 10 July 2020 16: 01 New
            +3
            Anarchy is not even a way to build a state, but just a symptom of the disease of that state.
            And again, Proudhon, the Spanish anarchists, Makhno look at you bewildered ... As my philosopher liked to say: "Babel does not distinguish Bebel from Bebel. And he undertakes to criticize Kant."
            And outwardly they appear as robberies, violence, terrorism.
            Anarchists disagree with you:
            1.Free association of people into communes and their federations up to the world level
            2. Labor organization through the creation of producer associations
            3. Elimination of private property and the state - capitalism and hierarchy, coercion, 4. whether economic or non-economic
            4. Free development of each personality in all its manifestations.
            For the sake of general development, read how the Gulyai Field functioned. None of your fantasies were there.
            1. dauria
              dauria 10 July 2020 20: 30 New
              +1
              None of your fantasies were there.

              It would have been ... laughing I don’t have enough imagination for such "dreams." It remains to find a suitable type of aliens in the Universe - maybe these “recipes” will suit them.
              And among people we will fulfill only the first point - voluntarily unite in a gang - in a gang there are more chances to survive than a loner. Which happened everywhere and always. Even anarchists need to eat and defend the grub.
              1. smaug78
                smaug78 11 July 2020 05: 48 New
                +1
                Please continue. An ignoramus with pouting cheeks is always funny laughing
            2. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 11 July 2020 09: 08 New
              +1
              You yourself seem like Hegel and Gogol are not weakly distinguished.
              Building a system without a hierarchy is not possible.
              Not in the official plane, not in the material. Try to shave the Cheops pyramid without a hierarchy of blocks in height.
              Anarchists can write manifests of their dogma as much as they like, but all the same they will remain just the stage of transition of one system to another. Destructive stage.
            3. lubesky
              lubesky 12 July 2020 22: 50 New
              0
              Yes you are my friend, utopian (s)
          2. tol100v
            tol100v 11 July 2020 19: 04 New
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            Quote: dauria
            America simply "dubbed" - at the top of the divide during the division. It settles down - and the worms calm down (or rather they will calm down).

            This is no longer a temperature - it is a chill, which confirms the diagnosis: ......!
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 10 July 2020 12: 14 New
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        Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
        So anarchy is
        robbery, violence, terrorism.

        For starters, I would recommend that you study Kropotkin’s works before writing such a "heresy" !!! hi
    2. Civil
      Civil 10 July 2020 07: 45 New
      +8
      The case of Old Man Makhno is alive and will live! laughing By the way, he died in Paris ...
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 10 July 2020 08: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: tihonmarine
      the ideas of anarchism were turned into robberies and unjustified mindless killings, an example of the same Makhno, Muravyov, Nikiforova, Grigoriev.

      Only one of them was one Makhno anarchist, and even that would not say that he did not succeed, because he enjoyed the support of the peasants. Just the Bolsheviks were stronger.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 July 2020 09: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Only one of them was an anarchist alone Makhno, and even that, I would not say

        Well, Muravyov and Grigoryev, as if under a big question, but in Marusya Nikiforova, which even Makhno kicked out of his armored train, was a “black anarchist” not black but African-American. So she is the "embodiment of anarchism." She managed to sit out in the Peter and Paul Fortress with Kollontai, escape from prison twice, visit Japan, work as a journalist in America, Britain, be a student of the sculptor Rodin, and also become the only woman accepted into the French Legion. A cat is no longer even a horse, but a stallion.
    4. Boris55
      Boris55 10 July 2020 09: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And knowing the mentality of African Americans, and seeing what is happening, it will turn out not anarchism, but, as always, robbery, violence, terrorism.

      In the black mentality, there has never been a concept of statehood. What happens when Black drives White out of control and becomes the main one, we look at South Africa. What will happen if Black takes power in the USA - the USA will turn into Lim-po-po.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 10 July 2020 11: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        ...... In the mentality of black when there was no concept of statehood. What happens when Black drives White out of control and becomes the main one, we look at South Africa. What will happen if Black takes power in the USA - the USA will turn into Lim-po-po.
        and this is understandable. After all, tribal relations still exist and are strong.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 10 July 2020 11: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Boris55
        In the black mentality, there has never been a concept of statehood.

        Controversial.
        It's just that this "concept of statehood" was carefully knocked out of them.
      3. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 11 July 2020 09: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        What happens when Black drives White out of control and becomes the main one, we look at South Africa.

        Look at Rhodesia more clearly.
        The completed process.
      4. ratcatcher
        ratcatcher 13 July 2020 13: 32 New
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        What is the conclusion? In Africa throughout history there have been many states - often monarchist-dictatorial. The same Zulus, Ancient Sudan (similar to Egypt), a stable monarchy in Mali.
        Your conclusion is based on a misunderstanding that in some areas of the state are created easier due to the availability of certain resources and neighbors, and vice versa in others. And sometimes the redundancy of certain resources (like food in South Asia) can be a brake. The influence of the conditions is attributed to a certain generalized "mentality", despite the fact that blacks are a separate race in which many nationalities differ from each other sometimes more than whites.
        Black USA is a product of the USA. And not "blacks" as a universal example. It is characteristic that the blacks who come to the USA from Africa differ in mentality and even academic success (they are higher) than the blacks whose roots are in the USA. And above all, from the difference in social attitudes, which are reproduced among blacks in the USA within their environment.
        I recommend about Africa:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTCboFpCy7A
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  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 July 2020 06: 30 New
    +2
    Anarchy is the mother of order! Take a walk, herbivores!
  4. Poetry
    Poetry 10 July 2020 06: 34 New
    -6
    Down with the States! You give a big walk-field.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 10 July 2020 06: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Down with the States! You give a big walk-field.

      Walk the field from a country with nuclear weapons? Are you sure?
      1. Rostislav Prokopenko
        Rostislav Prokopenko 10 July 2020 23: 54 New
        -1
        Well, it’s not only not to have it, but also to be able to manage and MAINTENANCE. And beyond the ocean, it seems to be already in not very good condition.
    2. mole
      mole 10 July 2020 06: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Down with the States! You give a big walk-field.

      Walk the field well, but what will happen to the weapons accumulated in the USA, where and for what purposes will it go? Not to mention the “button” from the briefcase.
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 10 July 2020 07: 12 New
        -4
        Forgot to mention about nuclear power plants. Even the most stupid anarchist understands the difference between Walk the field and Walk the wasteland.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 10 July 2020 08: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: Poetiszaugla
          Even the most stupid anarchist understands the difference between Walk the field and Walk the wasteland.

          sure?!
          You can give a lot of reverse examples
      2. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 10 July 2020 22: 35 New
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        Quote: Mole
        but what will happen to the weapons accumulated in the USA, where and for what purposes will it go?
        Yes, it is, in principle, and not so weakly travels around the globe ... (!).
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 11 July 2020 20: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Nemchinov Vl
          but what will happen to the weapons accumulated in the USA, where and for what purposes will it go?
          Yes, it is, in principle, and not so weakly travels around the globe ... (!).

          Further in the classics: if in the first act a gun hangs on the wall, then in the third it will certainly shoot!
    3. Catfish
      Catfish 10 July 2020 07: 01 New
      +2
      Down with the States! You give a big walk-field.


      Yeah ... with nuclear missiles ... wassat
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 10 July 2020 07: 20 New
        -3
        Well, you understand who once again will save this mortal world. Not a Hollywood lone hero. Polite people with kind faces.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 July 2020 07: 40 New
          +2
          Polite people with kind faces.

          Unfortunately I am not familiar with them, call them, if not difficult.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 July 2020 08: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Down with the States! You give a big walk-field.
      Reply

      Well, well, are you sure that some thread of a dumbfounded Negro will not launch a rocket on your head or break an ampoule with some thread of biological rubbish ?!
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 10 July 2020 22: 38 New
        -1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Well, well, are you sure that some thread of a dumbfounded Negro will not launch a rocket on your head or break an ampoule with some thread of biological rubbish ?!
        and under the “whites” in power in the USA, such confidence cannot be fully (!)...?! If you yourself have assured yourself of this, then I wonder why ?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 10 July 2020 23: 26 New
          0
          easiest to blame for a misunderstanding


          here is an example
          In South Africa, where there are 5 million people with AIDS and HIV / AIDS (one in eight), a new and original way to treat this deadly disease has appeared. Among the male population of this country, it is widely believed that, having slept with a virgin, you can not only protect yourself from the human immunodeficiency virus, but also, if you get infected, be healed.
          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/335912

          Now imagine that the same "geniuses" just not from Johannesburg but from Detroit gain access to WMD
  5. sav
    sav 10 July 2020 06: 40 New
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    Important in itself is the idea of ​​attracting the masses to the management system. Starting, of course, from below, which, incidentally, was to be brought to life under the Soviet regime - the power of the Soviets.

    So the idea is correct: the broad masses, through their representatives (deputies) convey their demands to the leadership.
    But the system is usually destroyed by simple human weaknesses - greed and laziness
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 10 July 2020 08: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: sav
      But the system is usually destroyed by simple human weaknesses - greed and laziness

      There isn’t enough tough, really working feedback - as soon as the delegate deviated from the requirements that the voters delegated to him, or simply began to take off from work - down with him.
      Anyone who invents such a feedback in practice will overshadow the founders of the first socialist state.
      1. dauria
        dauria 10 July 2020 22: 44 New
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        Anyone who invents such a feedback in practice will overshadow the founders of the first socialist state

        Invented a long time ago, the recipe was on every penny and even on the coat of arms of the USSR.
        Checked repeatedly, works great. Debugged and never forgotten by hard workers in decent countries It is called trade unions. And the recipe sounds like "Unite, rams. They’ll overdo you one by one"
        And no delegates, deputies and pseudo-elections of presidents supposedly from the people are needed. The bourgeoisie has its own president, the hard workers have their own. And that’s it.
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 10 July 2020 23: 49 New
          0
          Quote: dauria
          Called- unions

          So I'm talking about a really working mechanism. And trade unions long before the USSR showed their half-heartedness. At the moment, they no longer work at all, alas.
          1. dauria
            dauria 11 July 2020 01: 34 New
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            . At the moment, they no longer work at all, alas.

            In Russia there are none. But in Finland, swimming in fat, they are on strike on schedule. And how it helps. The funny thing is, in the “cool” countries, even the mafia in conjunction with the trade unions helps to cut intractable businessmen. Have you noticed a miracle? The mafia in conjunction not with power, but with hard workers ... laughing
            1. Polymer
              Polymer 11 July 2020 02: 28 New
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              Quote: dauria
              Mafia in conjunction not with power, but with hard workers

              Then, not with hard workers, but with trade union bosses. I'm not sure that the position of hard workers from this is greatly improved.
              1. dauria
                dauria 11 July 2020 05: 46 New
                0
                Then not with hard workers, but with trade union bosses


                No matter. But another trade union is important - real power. It can complicate life not only for the capitalist, but also for politicians right up to ministers and presidents. An organization with the capabilities of which even crime is considered. And he enters into a deal, but does not fight.
                1. Polymer
                  Polymer 11 July 2020 08: 56 New
                  0
                  Making life harder is possible. Solve the problem - no.
        2. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 11 July 2020 09: 15 New
          0
          Trade unions at the final stage of their development also go to the absurd and
          the "proletariat" strangles itself in a place with everything else.
          In theory, everything is simpler than in practice
  6. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 July 2020 06: 55 New
    +3
    At that time, Soviet cinema tried to inculcate the Soviet ideology. Successfully propagandized, explained.
    Until the power itself began to move away from it. Then other films began to appear.
    Well, now, with the declared absence of ideology, the opportunity has appeared to show any dirty fantasies in the cinema ....
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 July 2020 07: 19 New
      +9
      Quote: Reptiloid
      with the declared lack of ideology

      in fact, ideology is present. In any advertisement, not a product is advertised, but a way of life: buy and there will be happiness. This is consumer ideology. Young children, by the way, are very fond of advertising, because it looks like a short fairy tale with a happy ending. So, from an early age .......
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 10 July 2020 07: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: aybolyt678
        ..... in fact, ideology is present. In any advertisement, not a product is advertised, but a way of life: buy and there will be happiness. This is consumer ideology. ...... So, from an early age .......
        Of course there is! And what lifestyle is advertised? Easy, fun, any expenses are possible ...... Study and work remain off-screen. Of course the children like ---- no strain, waved a magic wand. .... Only this ease is not at all for everyone. am
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 July 2020 07: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Learning and work remain behind the scenes.

          Everything that brings money is called earned.
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Soviet cinema at that time tried to instill Soviet ideology
          There was a purely mathematical error in that ideology: the formula “from each according to his ability to each according to his needs” is essentially an equation where abilities are equated with needs. Minimal logical analysis leads to the fact that it was necessary to develop to infinity the abilities of ordinary Soviet people, or limit their needs to socialist education.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 10 July 2020 08: 03 New
            +1
            Probably, somehow it was all done ---- abilities developed, needs were limited, either by ideology, or, conversely, needs were raised above the scope of ordinary personal life ---- PEACE --- PEACE!
            And on Mars apple trees will bloom!
            When I once wrote this slogan here, like you, ----to each according to his needs ....., someone corrected me that no, to each according to work......--- ??????
            How was it really? Forgotten or mythologized?
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 July 2020 08: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: Reptiloid
              How was it really?

              actually it was like you wrote the first time. Or me. These are attempts of theorists of the Khrushchev period. I myself do not believe in communism on a global scale, I believe in socialism. I define socialism as the priority of the interests of society over the individual. Actually, the theoretical basis of socialism was not created. The first textbook on the political economy of socialism came out after the death of Stalin with his last name in a black frame. "Without theory, death is ours," said the Leader. The task of the Party under Stalin was the comprehensive development of the personality of every Soviet person, and under Khrushchev, the improvement of well-being and the satisfaction of needs. Satisfying needs ... what if it is a cannibal's need? or pervert? In general, needs are an element of capitalism. The best minds of the Soviet Union instilled the dream of space, in principle, this is correct. But they worked without a system, in isolation from Hollywood laughing
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 10 July 2020 08: 49 New
                +2
                ...... the theoretical basis of socialism was not created .....
                but there was some theory, after all ,! If after the revolution, with a shortage of everything, with hunger, illness, they published the first children's magazines, worked in 3 shifts, built, built, built .....
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 10 July 2020 09: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  but there was some theory, after all ,!

                  There was a theory of Marxism, which Stalin proposed to abandon because it under socialism not wealthy:

                  "... Moreover, I think it is necessary to discard some other concepts taken from Marx’s Capital, where Marx was engaged in the analysis of capitalism, and artificially glued to our socialist relations. I mean, by the way, such concepts, as "necessary" and "surplus" labor, "necessary" and "surplus" product, "necessary" and "surplus" working time. Marx analyzed capitalism in order to find out the source of exploitation of the working class, surplus value, and give the working class deprived of the means of production, a spiritual weapon for overthrowing capitalism. It is clear that Marx uses the concepts (categories) that are fully consistent with capitalist relations, but it’s more than strange to use these concepts when the working class is not only not deprived of power and means of production, but vice versa , holds power in his hands and owns the means of production.The words about labor are now quite absurd, under our system, as a commodity e, and on the “hiring” of workers: as if the working class, which owns the means of production, is hired by itself and sells its labor power to itself. It is just as strange now to speak of “necessary” and “surplus” labor: as if labor in our conditions, given to society to expand production, develop education, health care, organize defense, etc., is not equally necessary for the working class now in power, as well as the labor expended to cover the personal needs of the worker and his family ... "

                  He invited economists to develop a new theory:

                  "... I think that our economists should put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new position. We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come, when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy ... "

                  ps
                  Quotes from IV Stalin from his work: "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR" from 1952.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 July 2020 11: 51 New
                    +1
                    I was looking for one poem, but found another, here is an excerpt from Dmitry Brusin, 1921
                    for keeping my mind in the darkness ---
                    never forgive you!
                    To arrogant gentry to science and art
                    could betray --- millions, like moles,
                    had to live in darkness ... I am one of
                    million ... And when I hear the malevolent
                    hissing:
                    --- Yeah! You cannot do without us! ---anger
                    boils in my chest ...
                    Damn you for robbing bread and
                    the poor have light!
                    I want to know! Not stupid tales of torment
                    hell, not a vile lie about God and angels, ---
                    let the rich amuse their minds!
                    Not pathetic crumbs from the haves table
                    I need not scraps of arrogant bars ...
                    Beethoven's long sounds, beautiful
                    canvases by Leonardo da Vinci, all secrets
                    give us the universe!
                2. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 July 2020 09: 39 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  but there was some theory, after all ,! If after the revolution

                  there was a belief in science ... the first cars, the first airplanes, telephone, radio ... official propaganda claimed that with the help of science, one could make the same progress in philosophy and in the social system. Marx was forced to study ... The trouble is that studies did not go further. There was no development of the theory. Cost is labor embodied in a commodity, turned into a dogma. And today it would be more correct to say - the cost is the Energy embodied in the product. And equate the ruble to a kilowatt. That would be a victory
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 July 2020 09: 51 New
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                    Thank. I’ll try to find verses of your time for your comment that once surprised me very much ....
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 10 July 2020 09: 16 New
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                ..... I myself do not believe in communism on a global scale, I believe in socialism

                And what did they believe in?
                One and a half meters into the blue,
                How far distant arable lands are visible
                To the clouds chased by the wind
                The radio tower has grown

                The blockade ring was shrinking
                When our working shoulders
                Raised this bulk
                Over Zamoskvorechye

                Nikolai Kuznetsov, 1922
                !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 July 2020 10: 22 New
                  +1
                  They believed in science. The radio was a curiosity
            2. Nikolai Korovin
              Nikolai Korovin 10 July 2020 16: 56 New
              +3
              The slogan of socialism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work."
              "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" - this is communism.

              I remember that in the 10th grade (1972), a conversation with a social studies teacher started - so what is communism? And he tells us that "this is the state of society when public wealth flows in a wide stream, and a great principle is realized - from each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Well, never mind, I think. Where does so much come from? Somehow, I did not believe him then that such a thing could be.
              By the way, he says, the state will die under communism. Is it like that? Yes, like that. It will not be necessary.
              One advanced fellow here dubbed him a Trotskyist, but actually he was still more like a disguised anarchist. Indeed, if the main powers remain at the lowest level of government, this is probably not the state, but something else. Some kind of loosely connected Association of Single Handicraftsmen.
              "Uncles, what are you doing here, so many big uncles? - Socialism! Free labor of people who have gathered freely." But actually - it seems like anarchism is obtained.

              As for the current moment, before communism, judging by everything, it’s just a stone's throw from the definition of our social scientist. Social wealth is whipping in a wide stream. All of the ability to at least something from this stream and tear away. It remains only to organize the matter in such a way that everyone can do it according to their needs.
          2. Polymer
            Polymer 10 July 2020 08: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Minimal logical analysis leads to the fact that it was necessary to develop to infinity the abilities of ordinary Soviet people, or to limit their needs to socialist education.

            You seem to be confusing requests with needs. Yes, needs must be limited by society’s ability at this stage of development satisfy them. At the same time, progressive progress is expected, and yesterday’s requests become today's needs.
            In practice, of course, difficulties arise with the separation of these two categories. But it is necessary to think over and somehow implement such a mechanism.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 July 2020 10: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Polymer
              You seem to be confusing requests

              it seems, probably ... the meanings of the words are changing. The interpretation of terms is changing. To understand each other it is necessary to determine the meaning of the concepts discussed. For example, the word probably after the 19th century changed its meaning to the opposite. In the 19th century it denoted absolutely true, in our time it contains an element of doubt. The same thing with the words freedom, elite, culture, needs and most importantly - Cost ....
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 10 July 2020 10: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: Polymer
              needs should be limited by the ability of society at this stage of development

              Culture is a system of internal restrictions .. how do you like this?
              1. Polymer
                Polymer 10 July 2020 10: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Culture is a system of internal restrictions .. how do you like this?

                Quite ... just where does the individual get this culture - by itself? Culture is inculcated not only by role models, but also by violence on the part of society over the individual. Sometimes this does not help either - and the antisocial element has to be isolated, or even eliminated.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 10 July 2020 11: 55 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Polymer
                  an element must be isolated or eliminated altogether.

                  yes ... the organs did not finish sad the question is what to do now and whether it is necessary?
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 10 July 2020 20: 40 New
                    +1
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    Quote: Polymer
                    an element must be isolated or eliminated altogether.

                    yes ... the organs did not finish sad the question is what to do now and whether it is necessary?
                    I have difficulties with those theories .... I do not understand any nuances ..... request Are we talking about culture or breaking the law?
                    It can be added that in different non-human communities there is no culture. And the law and am violence to carry it out is valid no matter what.
                    Lions, wolves, hyenas, monkeys, rats, public insects ....
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 10 July 2020 21: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Are we talking about culture or breaking the law?

                      it's about development. What did Russia gain spiritually and ideologically by passing the stage of the Soviet Union? what remains of what we can sprout and turn into something more than a cold country entangled in pipes? for today I only found a mistake among the Marxists in determining Cost ... And the obvious difficulties in ideology, is war or crisis needed, or can this be corrected evolutionarily? that's what it is about request
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 10 July 2020 22: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Are we talking about culture or breaking the law?

                        it's about development. What did Russia gain spiritually and ideologically by passing the stage of the Soviet Union? what remains of what we can sprout and turn into something more than a cold country entangled in pipes? for today I only found a mistake among the Marxists in determining Cost ... And the obvious difficulties in ideology, is war or crisis needed, or can this be corrected evolutionarily? that's what it is about request

                        Well, I did not expect to see the difference between the quote and the original. !!!!! I forgot what I wanted ....
                      2. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 10 July 2020 23: 30 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Well, I did not expect to see the difference between the quote and the original. !!!!! I forgot what I wanted ....

                        laughing I didn’t understand you, I have fairly systematic knowledge, a Ph.D. degree. What is wrong? And about violation of laws, this is decided by political will under any regime, but the culture is cultivated and hungry, which has become part of national identity, a thing that is forged in the crucible of wars and crises. Our culture is neutered. At the official level, Stalin was forgotten the supreme soldier, the father who lost the son of a soldier in the war, and who devoted himself entirely to building a society that Jesus Christ would be proud of smile
                      3. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 11 July 2020 04: 02 New
                        0
                        .......I did not understand you......

                        Here's the thing. I was in the field when I wrote that comment.
                        Your words occupied 3 lines. .... without a smiley face. I was very surprised when I saw a longer comment in the quote. I rebooted the tablet, and looked on the phone ---- it continued. I wrote about my surprise, and then the opportunity to write ended. Now I read at home ---- everything is fine.
                        In the mobile version, the names are not always visible. Would you like to know your name? I am Dmitry.
                      4. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 11 July 2020 06: 26 New
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                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Your name? I am Dmitry.

                        Igor. smile
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 10 July 2020 07: 17 New
    -1
    The attack of anarchy happened due to the lack of reliable bonds and tearing between groups in power. And in general, the model of US society is rotting. If the United States had a strong leader, followed by the masses, then protests would not break out. They should have already changed something in the basic law, otherwise they won’t last long.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 July 2020 07: 17 New
    +1
    I liked the post. I would not write comments if I could rate it by likes. And where do you get to from this? If the Internet has become more extensive. And you can convey your voice from different kurysh.
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 July 2020 08: 48 New
      +3
      nikvic46, do you mean the article?
      It turned out to be truly epochal for me!))
      “So who are you!” I cried. “Yes, you, Depressant, anarchist!” Then, thinking, she decided: “But no power suits you - neither local nor supreme. Besides your own and above you . "
      And finally I came to the conclusion that laziness rules me)))
      But seriously, last year I had a chance to read an article about anarchism, from which I just came to the conclusion that Old Man Makhno is such an order with which there was no internal agreement. And now the respected Authors have now finally clearly explained to me that anarchism is such an order when the requirements of a rational order and structure of life should be addressed not to the president, but directly to the mayor of my village. And no more and no further. Arrows translate? From hour to second? Somehow I do not agree.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 10 July 2020 09: 25 New
        +1
        Glad to chat with anarchist !!!!!! hi
        I have a book about the 100th anniversary of anarchism. Covers it, did not read yet.
        But now you have to hurry, it would be better to cut through the topic.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 10 July 2020 23: 36 New
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        Quote: depressant
        And finally I came to the conclusion that laziness rules me

        I will console you laughing lol laziness is the engine of progress smile The rest I agree. There should be a common line. What the local authorities have that the supreme. At least in domestic politics everything should be clear. "Salus populi suprema Lex." the happiness of the people is the highest law. It was written over the entrance to the Roman Senate.
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 11 July 2020 04: 45 New
        0
        ....... laziness rules me .....
        . good there is a book. Peter Axt. Lazy people live longer. How to distribute vital energy
  • parusnik
    parusnik 10 July 2020 07: 28 New
    +3
    Something together COVID-19, anarchism, attracting the masses to the management system ... Regarding the latter, from June 25 to July 1, 2020 the broad masses attracted to the management system, they decided a lot of questions ... smile
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 July 2020 08: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Something together COVID-19, anarchism, attracting the masses to the management system ...... smile
      laughing lol all together ---- yes! Like in life. Managers and manage and self-isolation is introduced incorrectly ....
      1. depressant
        depressant 10 July 2020 09: 51 New
        +2
        In fact, the article is more than serious. We are checked "for lice."
        On the one hand, the people need to be distracted from the actions of the highest authority, which oppresses its former line. In a veiled form, we are invited to turn our dissatisfaction to our own local administration and preferably a smaller rank. If so, then the only source of local authority during self-isolation in my village was communal services. Some comrades correctly said that after the adoption of the amendments, nothing will change. For example, the State Duma is currently developing a law that introduces a norm according to which the call for the separation of territory from Russia is equated with terrorism. But Lavrov know yourself oppressing your former line in negotiations with Japan. Like, we will establish normal relations, then we'll talk about the distribution of islands. It turns out that the question is not about national honor? For us - engage in communal services, dear. Well, or look at the mayor! Ours, by the way, was isolated so that no one had seen him until now, not even his aunt from the administration. So much for the anarchy of the local level within the boundaries allowed by the central authority and the code of existing laws.
        On the other hand, look - here is San Marino ... Baby? Yes, and no cove! Small territory is easy to manage! What is being thrown in? Chechnya is such a local order. Tatarstan, Chuvashia, Cossacks, again, in Rostov-on-Don ... And then the Supreme will say: we can’t cope with anarchy, it’s your own fault that you divide into independent ones - you’ve divorced anarchy, you’re panicking!
        And here I turned my predatory gaze to the Supreme again: dear colleague! You first establish a general acceptable order for us. Then, in an acceptable way, in common with the local kings, we will figure it out - according to the laws of anarchy. Give a reference point!
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 10 July 2020 10: 27 New
          +3
          You first establish a general acceptable order for us.
          ... To establish order, we have order, and to eliminate the mess, we have a mess ... laughing
          1. depressant
            depressant 10 July 2020 10: 44 New
            +2
            Yes, you are a sophist, my friend!)))
            And how to get out of what you said?)))
            1. parusnik
              parusnik 10 July 2020 11: 07 New
              +4
              No way .... such is the fat, as they say .... smile
              1. depressant
                depressant 10 July 2020 11: 52 New
                +1
                Some part of anarchism in our life was still present at the level of interaction with local authorities. But for some reason it seems to me that in order to preserve the unity of the state, the central government will consistently reduce the powers of local authorities, and accordingly, the share of anarchism in our civic behavior will decrease. For example, my village entered the urban district. Maybe that’s why the mayor became invisible. There used to be hours of reception, you could talk. Face to face, so to speak. To solve a problem. Where is that face now? Does the district center sit? But with every little thing you won’t go there ...
                Or, it used to be like this: once a year you go to the district, and there you are given a receipt for payment for the use of gas in the gas organization for the whole year, and for electricity in the electric company. Inconvenient? Yes. But on the other hand, it was possible to come to any of such organizations and demand a recount in case of your own mistake in filling out receipts or in the case of a request sent by the end of the year to pay for what you already paid. Face to face with a company representative. It was also an element of theoretical anarchy. He was expelled. Now there is a single regional office, located in the middle of nowhere, in charge of which it is not known who and to get through to whom it is unknown how. And it is not known why she sculpts you a debt for diligently paid. Anarchism is successfully excluded and lawlessness is equally successful.

                Here it is necessary to deal with this. With the fact that digitalization will successfully kill the slightest manifestations of theoretical anarchy at the root. Otherwise - there are problems, there is no one to turn to. Discontent canalizes towards the central government.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 10 July 2020 11: 15 New
          +1
          ...... establish a general acceptable order. ..... give a starting point .......

          When mom thinks about spring cleaning, I have horror!
          Everything is extracted from everywhere (which is equivalent to ANARCHIES), randomly occupies the entire space.
          Then, the division into the necessary and the unnecessary. Unnecessary is liquidated in different ways (which is equivalent to executions, repressions)
          Then, from the minimum remaining, order is easily restored recourse .....something like this....
          From this all, more than one conclusion can be drawn ....
          1. depressant
            depressant 10 July 2020 12: 46 New
            +2
            Dima, the order is put in place in your apartment. At the place of residence, so to speak. Local authorities in the face of your mother)))
            From this point of view, any village, any urban microdistrict is a common apartment of people in which the order is brought in by the local authorities, which people see, know her face, communicate with her and are able to influence her decisions. If your mother intends to throw away an object that is unnecessary in her understanding, but you need, when cleaning, do you not argue with her? And if the local authorities make some kind of wild decision, say, to cut down all the trees in the controlled territory, will not the inhabitants stop it, or at least not make such an attempt? In any case, the government will be forced to enter into a discussion with the population and come to a decision that suits everyone. This is a manifestation of the elements of theoretical anarchy. Until recently, central government suited this state of affairs. And now, no. The authorities now have little power. Central intends to absorb the whole local with the help of digitalization. For the success of its implementation, the central government will crush everything for itself, locking all the problems upon itself, making each of us dependent only on ourselves, and declaring out loud. Through the enlargement of everything that is possible. People do not think about the consequences of total digitalization. In his view, this is something from the realm of fiction, suitable for the Chinese and very far from our realities. Well, or in the worst case - payment cards instead of cash. But, not understanding, she already instinctively resists the exclusion of the elements of anarchy from her life, on the basis of a reasonable idea that good power is that which is not far from your home, you can walk to its reception room and solve the vast majority of your problems directly communicating with her. Hence the unwillingness of the NAO to unite with the Arkhangelsk region.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 10 July 2020 15: 50 New
              +1
              ...... unwillingness of the NAO ....
              This situation can be compared to what the Doctor described when talking about medical unification. The regional hospital of a small town was combined with central institutions. As a result, difficulties and a decrease in funds ---- for the regional. Of course, NAO understands this and is against it.
              As for the cleaning of the territory ---- everything happens here in accordance with my interests (in the end lol ), because I earn, and my mom retired. What is interesting here is that changes for the better could be made gradually, hardly noticeably ..... And, who do you think, who would not like it? Guessed it! I myself would not like the ever-changing space.
              Day two anarchy I can endure, but then everything is fine. For six months, maybe .....
              ..... In the 90s, it was said ---- to wait for shock therapy, everything will normalize .. there will be a rise and improvement ..... and since then it has been happening that one has to constantly wait one thing, then another ..... .
              1. depressant
                depressant 10 July 2020 15: 58 New
                +2
                I understand both you and Putin. So click harder and the state’s construction will collapse. But on the other hand ... here you have a car. It is necessary to replace the part. We saved up money, replaced it and continue to drive. But while they were saving up for one, another, or even two, got angry. That's how we will change something, slowly, and the problems will multiply.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 10 July 2020 16: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: depressant
                  I understand both you and Putin. So click harder and the state’s construction will collapse. But on the other hand ... here you have a car. It is necessary to replace the part. We saved up money, replaced it and continue to drive. But while they were saving up for one, another, or even two, got angry. That's how we will change something, slowly, and the problems will multiply.

                  Many owners, after 2-3 years, return back to the salon and take a new car again.
                  In the 20th century, the demolition and replacement of the state system took place twice.
                  Achievements in 30 years are known.
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 10 July 2020 15: 57 New
              +1
              The funny thing is Lyudmila, hi that the situation with the cleaning of the territory can be viewed from different angles and in relation to different aspects of life laughing lol
              1. depressant
                depressant 10 July 2020 16: 14 New
                +3
                Cleaning is a general algorithm for changing something, I almost said “optimization”. Development is when the number of replaced old parts with new ones simultaneously exceeds the number of old ones remaining. If you do the cleaning slowly, then you will accumulate new ones along with the removal of the old garbage, the apartment will never be clean. Something similar is happening in our country. Something is being done and a lot, but the pace of change is such that the destructive impact on the economy exceeds the creative. Anarchy in the form of endowing redundant rights to local administrators did not justify itself - it took root on the ground, acquired what was not supposed to be, were corrupted in such a way that even the saints take out. And corrupt lawmakers. It cannot go on like this. Changes in the administrative structure of the country have matured.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 10 July 2020 16: 22 New
                  +2
                  ........ changes in the administrative structure have matured ......
                  will be? Or again the rearrangement of beds? wassat
                  Running away, thanks for the conversation.
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 11 July 2020 04: 34 New
                  +1
                  .... cleaning ----- this is a general algorithm .......
                  Well, you think so, Lyudmila lol lol !!!!!! But the tablet sent a lot of advertising companies and cleaning facilities. Also advertising accessories for yourself, tablet, beloved. wassat He often insists on gifts --- accessories. ((probably rejoices when he finds out about digital slavery ...... waiting))
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 July 2020 23: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: depressant
          In a veiled form, we are invited to turn our dissatisfaction to our own local administration and preferably a smaller rank.

          It is not just that. In the future, a veiled future, thanks to Digitalization, small officials elected by the people as a hotbed of corruption will be abolished, not just trumpeting this. And it is not clear whether this will be a step towards communism or a step towards digital slavery.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 11 July 2020 04: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Quote: depressant
            In a veiled form, we are invited to turn our dissatisfaction to our own local administration and preferably a smaller rank.

            It is not just that. In the future, a veiled future, thanks to Digitalization, small officials elected by the people as a hotbed of corruption will be abolished, not just trumpeting this. And it is not clear whether this will be a step towards communism or a step towards digital slavery.

            Of course, today the idea of ​​abolishing small appointed officials is pleasing and even causes some kind of gloating. .... but then what .....
            While I remembered Jack from the land of shadows Zhelyazny, another fantasy ... Polish old film .. .... everything has long been known.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 11 July 2020 06: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Reptiloid
              While I remember the Jack from the country of the shadows of Zhelyazny, another fantasy

              enlighten?
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 11 July 2020 06: 37 New
                +1
                Jack from the country of shadows. --- Such a work is long-standing, there is just total digital control over each and every one described. Literally --- not a step to the side. Everything is digitized. Then the truth is this man --- managed to deceive the jack ..... Polish film, new amazons? Like. There is a long-standing film with Schwarzenegger, somehow one person, another person, identity theft .... for a long time. People somehow deceive the figure, but it's more likely for the plot ....
                1. depressant
                  depressant 11 July 2020 10: 22 New
                  +1
                  Colleagues, if you are talking about films. There is such a cunning organization - Hollywood. Writers in search of a killer idea scour politics, philosophy, mythology and futurology.
                  Take the film "Virus" from 2016. It directly states that the epidemic will come from China (heating up public opinion), but China will hide the truth, and tightened border controls should be organized. And this is in 2016! What, huh?
                  The film "Nuclear Hurricane" talks about programming paradoxes that allowed artificial intelligence to take control of the personnel of a nuclear power plant, which almost led to a disaster.
                  The film "Death from Heaven" tells how the unclean politicians, together with the monopolists, destroy the population with the help of seemingly useful agricultural drones.
                  These are the "charms" of digitalization in the broad sense of the word.
                  In order not to have problems with the state, Hollywood always gives not just a happy, but a fair ending. But will the ending be fair in our case? Climbing into digitalization, in the long run - complete, which means completely eliminating the elements of anarchy, the state will lead the country to entropy equal to zero. But it is only inanimate nature that can exist in this state for billions of years, until some kind of accident takes the system out of balance. We humans demand development. Zero entropy, namely stagnation, we are not able to endure for a long time. Our natural need for development is the very coincidence that can lead the state system out of entropy zero. Let Putin think about it.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 11 July 2020 11: 06 New
                    +1
                    Good morning Lyudmila! hi I was interested in recalling precisely those plots that were created long before universal computerization. When it was still very far to today's level. When the cable first appeared, in the 90s there was a film about the appearance of the Antichrist in the USA, destruction, human unrest ..... A tall black man, chubby man, rude facial features ...... ????? In general, many films were shown then, where blacks and mulattos are negative ... for example Basketball --- game for black
                    And also, it turns out, there were Soviet films that suggested the changes that took place in the 90s. But not to that extent, of course. I often have difficulties with Soviet films .....
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 11 July 2020 12: 35 New
                      +1
                      A tall black man with rude features ... Colleague, you bring me back to the topic of the article))
                      To some extent, the black uprising in the USA is an analogue of the Chechen wars, accompanied by the same measure of tolerant sympathy of liberals, both homegrown and foreign, which worked out a mechanism for seizing Chechnya with additional tribute levied from the central state. In our case, such a tribute was promised that was not accompanied by tactics of imputed local development, in the case of the USA - first, a tribute in the presence of its broad conditions. The Chechens agreed to a freebie, Black took tribute, but both of them did not want to develop independently and in droves. Archaic peoples demand a civilization kick. But it is impossible until they themselves want to. The mentality through the knee does not break. That is the problem. Both the United States and Russia took the path of indulging the low sides of the archaic, forcibly cultivating them. Because it is not up to them in the face of the challenges of globalization, there are more serious problems. Maybe that's why the process of separation of countries, the collapse of the existing blocs, will go on. The globalization project will freeze, the reverse will go - deglobalization. So it is easier to fight off international reproaches for tough measures against the archaic, and each country has its own. For example, the Turks are Kurds, we have a lot more. In this case, each country can say: we have laws - yes, cruel, but ours, do not care about international ones. It seems to me that with universal and complete globalization, someone was excessively hasty. There will be a swing over long periods of time. Maximum globalization, minimum. Until the system finally settles down. Millennium. The costs of history, so to speak)) If civilization survives at all.
                      And for us, you would survive now.
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 11 July 2020 13: 25 New
                        +1
                        When Obama appeared, I remembered this film and some more modern others, where mulattos and blacks were demons and descendants from the lower worlds. Does Hollywood Foresight Work? You can think differently. 90s ---- all of their films came to us at once, often of poor quality .....
                        The desire for archaic coincides with a deterioration in the quality of education, all sorts of superstitions, cults, warmed, "refugees" in Europe. ...... and many others alien. ...
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 11 July 2020 14: 28 New
                        +1
                        You know what revolted me and continues to revolt most of all in all this Hollywood? The fact that whites in films always look like idiots in comparison with blacks. Black is always the bearer of some sacred truth, which the white man is not given to understand for his trampled civilization. Or is he a sufferer due to the arbitrariness of the white. Or in rare cases, white and black are equal in development and intellectual capabilities. I doubt that in the general case this is so. We are different races. We are the brain of the Earth, they are its physical energy. This is how we are distributed by climatic zones. The work of the brain takes away from the body 20-25% of the vitality, therefore, according to physical data, we are not equal with them. This must be understood. From here we have unequal civilization tasks. Which must be found and skillfully put, thus leveling the rights of white and black. Who cares! Indeed, in order to set the necessary tasks for Black, it was necessary to openly explain why we are different. But try say it somewhere in the West! They will trample and crush in spite of previous merits. They preferred to make films about the great black scientists (The Terminator), the great spirit of black generals (Clash with the Comet), the great fighters for the future of mankind, the rulers of the not-so-responsible white ones (The Matrix), etc. The guys are redundant and proud.
                      3. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 11 July 2020 15: 20 New
                        +1
                        Always or not always look ...... Probably, this century has already clearly developed. By the way. Black cops, featured in movies.
                        I wonder how are they in life now?
                        I remembered the beginning of the "Arab Spring." Misunderstanding of what is happening
                        But even earlier there were student unrest 60s, which literally took place around the world. I read about it.
                        I'm leaving now. All the best. hi 5
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 12 July 2020 16: 21 New
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                        Rereading branches hi remembered from his first fantastic such ----
                        Philip Jose Farmer, in his novel Inside and Out, created the alien race of demons, from blacks, to hell.
                        Also remembered Robert Sheckley, a very old one. In the bright future, White from Mountain Georgia has a collective blame complex for blacks destroyed in their region. What only these American science fiction writers did not think of!
                        And the pinnacle of Harry Harrison’s novel “Star Rangers of the Space Rangers”! There is a Negro ... Soviet intelligence! Which they (rangers) successfully recount. And in the end it turns out that the two heroes ... lovers! While a black man is an ordinary man.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 10 July 2020 07: 29 New
    +1
    Trump is simply afraid before the election itself to go too far with forceful methods of suppressing lawlessness. And if that, let the local authorities be responsible. By the way, riots mainly occur where power belongs to shit. A few days after the election, white like gloves will be removed. However, I do not think that this will be required, since the shit will no longer need to escalate the situation. Why spend money on actions that benefit roughly like a donut hole?
  • Mityasha
    Mityasha 10 July 2020 08: 07 New
    +3
    I do not understand, all black and black, and the indigenous population is silent?
  • Polymer
    Polymer 10 July 2020 09: 13 New
    +1
    We repeat: practical anarchy is when only that which cannot be transferred there is transmitted upstairs.

    If maximum power is transferred to local self-government, then the state will quickly fall apart into specific principalities. And the latter are not able to cope with the voluminous tasks for the livelihoods of their population - a strong army, communications, health care, etc.
    Therefore - collectivism and democratic centralism. But collectivism is alien and incomprehensible to the western layman. They are brought up on individualism, because the ideas of the anarchists are closer and more understandable to them.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 10 July 2020 09: 41 New
    +4
    It can be seen from the comments that some readers present anarchism as the realization of unbridledness and criminality. Yes, in our history we had this, but it was not anarchism - it was unbridled and criminal under the slogans of anarchism.
    Anarchism proceeds from the fact that any state is violence, and the smaller the state, the more individual freedom. But personal freedom ends where the interests and rights of another person begin - the theory of anarchism does not deny this, but affirms it. And real anarchism is possible only with a high consciousness of people, as the theory says. It is this high consciousness that the anarchists revealed at the funeral of Kropotkin. In fact, anarchism and theocracy of the era of Judges are two forms of the best human (the second, also Divine with human) community. But the first was invented, and the second is no longer returned. Take the dreams of Campanella or another utopian - there is anarchy. Anarchy, as it is conceived, is perhaps the best that could be. But she will remain a dream, because some unconscious revolutions climb into the implementers all the time. wassat
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 10 July 2020 10: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Galleon
      theocracy of the era of Judges ... no longer return.

      What about Sharia, the Ayatollah regime - not an attempt to repeat it? Somehow they do not pull on the "best" ...
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 10 July 2020 11: 20 New
        +4
        In short, no. All of the above is not at all what is described in the book of Judges. It may be difficult for you to figure it out, so I’ll explain briefly.
        Arriving in Palestine, the Jews simply began to live in it. The covenant was made with them this way: worship of one God. And that’s all. Neither rulers nor kings. 6 days work, the seventh day rest and pray. 6 years of work and plowing the land, the seventh year the earth rests, but the sixth year gives a double crop. in the seventh year all debts are forgiven to everyone, those who fell into slavery are set free ... tabula rasa. There are a lot of things, I’ll not mention it anymore, but to lie out of place. Judges are the saviors of the nation; they were not present constantly. When people brought to obscenity, neighbors began to press him. Then God sent leaders (judges) who delivered the people from the threat and instructed people to piety. And that’s all. People just lived - without taxes, without police, without rent. Read. It is interesting if you think about it.
        1. Polymer
          Polymer 10 July 2020 12: 33 New
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          Quote: Galleon
          It is interesting if you think about it.

          Interesting, yes ...
          A reference to God, as a real acting authority - is that how ?! In that era, probably, the Jews used some kind of potent substance ...
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 July 2020 11: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Galleon
      and the smaller the state, the greater the freedom of the individual.

      It is rather liberalism. Normal, classic.
  • smaug78
    smaug78 10 July 2020 09: 42 New
    +2
    What the authors describe in the article and call it anarchism has nothing to do with real anarchism ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 July 2020 12: 01 New
    +5
    There is a long way to go before the revival of true anarchism than before communism ... crying
    I myself am an anarchist by nature ... only ... after all, anarchy is NOT lawlessness ... Anarchy is very rude and short - this is when people live by the Supreme Government, and only those functions that they themselves cannot manage are delegated to it in their communities ...
    So ... I would rather believe that communism will come on the whole globe - than anarchy - because in order to live under anarchy you need to be adequate everywhere, in all areas of life ... and you can "drive with communism with an iron hand" ...
    Sorry ... really sorry ...

    Py. Sy. Somewhere here I read a comparison in VO of the leaders of the riots in the USA - there was a comparison that Marx would have turned over in his coffin when he found out that the "Marxists" rule the riots in America laughing

    So it is here - Kropotkin’s ideas were not even heard by modern “anarchists” bully Rather, maybe somewhere out of the corner and heard - but DO NOT HEAR!!!
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 10 July 2020 13: 03 New
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    "Well, with the trust in the police there, for many years things have been much worse than in Europe and even Russia."
    I want to voice the advice that the prosecutor gave me in the 90s. If you are not very hot, do not try to contact the police. Or stand up for someone. If you want to help, call from the machine, but do not go in there. And they will make you guilty. The 90s have passed, and the council is still relevant in our country. But if we had so many weapons as in the USA, we didn’t need the police either.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 10 July 2020 13: 15 New
    +3
    What a wondrous poster they have: "No cops, no problems." That's when you can rob and kill with impunity. They are striving for this.
  • cniza
    cniza 10 July 2020 13: 16 New
    +3
    It is difficult to judge how the best ideas of anarchism have worked in our days: propaganda clearly ignores this topic. But the fact that they are again in demand is a fact, it seems, already indisputable.


    When there is plenty in society, then it manifests itself from a well-fed belly, and when it is necessary to build a state and defend it, then there should not be anarchism ...
  • iouris
    iouris 10 July 2020 13: 31 New
    +1
    Both the “black” and “white” questions are the essence of diverting attention from real socio-economic issues with the goal of manipulating the masses (and “the mass is willing to submit to force”). And no anarchy.
    1. Soko
      Soko 11 July 2020 09: 24 New
      +7
      Yes, this is understandable - someone is promoting their interests.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 12 July 2020 23: 08 New
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    Anarchism is a convenient tool in the firm hands of professionals.
  • KOLORADO73
    KOLORADO73 16 July 2020 10: 22 New
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    No more golden billion! In 2020, the history of the West ended! Liberalism is dead! Gentlemen, wake up! We were in a completely different reality!
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 16 July 2020 16: 37 New
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      Anarchy is immortal. This becomes clear as soon as big shocks occur in the world.
      Anarchy is chaos !!! Anarchy occurs at some crucial moments in history when a crowd of regular revolutionaries suddenly begins to consider themselves the arbiters of the fate of the world !!! But as soon as the revolutionary frenzy passes and sober reality sets in, mega-anarchists quickly turn into a bunch of ordinary vagabonds ... who have nothing to offer the rest of the world but chaos ... And as soon as the revolutionary boom fades away, they again go on stage - little gray people with colossal money and huge influence - oligarchs and life moves on ...
      1. Selevc
        Selevc 16 July 2020 16: 51 New
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        The modern world can be compared to the huge complex mechanism controlled by the most intelligent, most dexterous and most cynical jugglers ...
        But for some reason, anarchists think that this very mechanism can work on its own - because each gear knows how it spins ... This is all true in theory, but in practice the slightest external failure turns the gears into disaster and chaos ... Because the gears are strong together and each one sees nothing further than the adjacent gear ... And His hand is needed - the one who makes adjustments to the work mechanism !!! Therefore, anarchy is a good theory - but in practice it is complete chaos !!!