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Does Russia Need a “New Stalin": Reflections on a Strong Leader

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Many Russians like to talk about a strong leader, capable of "ruling" the Russian state with an iron hand. Stalin is often cited as an example, but is there really a need for such a leader today?


Unfortunately, discussions about a dictator who is able to rule the country based on the authority of his own power and on force methods, in most cases, are divorced from a real analysis of social, political and economic processes both in the country and in the world as a whole.

Fans of appealing to the personality of Joseph Stalin consider the “leader of all peoples” in isolation from the ideology and political system that he represented. Stalin was the leader of a mobilization society, of the Soviet state, united by a communist ideology and had the main goal - the construction of communism, and intermediate goals, including the same industrialization. Stalin's policy was aimed primarily at achieving these goals, and the result of this policy was the strengthening of the Soviet Union as a militarily strong and economically developed power.

In modern conditions, a strong leader will in no way be equal and identical with Stalin. Rather, it will be a “clone” of Augusto Pinochet or even Anastasio Somosa, with all the ensuing consequences. That is, it will be a “strong leader” of the oligarchy, which will use its power potential, first of all, to further strengthen the financial and economic power of oligarchs and corporations and to protect the interests of oligarchs, including from the people. We remember how in the nineties politicians like Valeria Novodvorskaya liked to talk about the desirability of the “Russian Pinochet”, and this circumstance alone makes us wonder who will benefit from the “strong hand” in the current economic system?

The new Russian dictator will in no way be an intercessor or defender of the people. In extreme cases, at the expense of oil money, periodic payments of some one-time allowances will be carried out for populist purposes, and that’s all. But such a “strong leader” will ruthlessly suppress any attempts at dissatisfaction not only with state policy, but also with the same actions of corporations.

Given the dependence of the Russian financial and economic elite on the West, it would be naive to assume that such a “strong leader” would in fact take care of protecting Russia's interests on a global scale. Militant rhetoric is not at all identical with the real situation of the country in the world political arena.


Stalin is still respected by millions of Russian citizens

It is enough to look at the numerous dictators of the Third World countries, who, with their declared anti-Western or anti-imperialist orientation, simultaneously held their capital in American, British and Swiss banks, possessed impressive real estate in the USA and Western European countries, taught their children in American or British universities. What kind of foreign policy independence in this case can we talk about?

The great misfortune of our hardworking and decent ordinary people is that they are still, nostalgic for the Soviet era, trying to identify their own interests and those of the ruling elite, and this is far from the same in the current situation. Dreaming of a "new Stalin", they do not understand that in reality this "Stalin" will turn out to be just Pinochet or Somosa and the situation of ordinary citizens in the event such a person comes to power can only worsen.

Another thing, if we talk about a strong leader, subject to changes in the economic policy of the state, the development of a new political strategy, and reorientation to social values. In this case, yes, a strong leader will be necessary to implement all these changes and protect them from the inevitable resistance of both the West and our home-grown oligarchs, even if they impersonate patriots and guardians of the Russian state.
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  1. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 9 July 2020 13: 44 New
    23
    Does Russia need a “new Stalin"

    Needed. IMHO.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 July 2020 13: 48 New
      49
      In modern conditions, a strong leader will in no way be equal and identical with Stalin.

      What a miserable excuse for corruption, nepotism and theft. A strong leader is a person who is not afraid to ask his subordinates and a strong leader subordinates are responsible for failures, failure to fulfill plans, promises .. A strong leader does not allow nepotism .. That's all it matters .. and why in modern conditions it impossible?
      Another thing, if we talk about a strong leader, subject to changes in the economic policy of the state, the development of a new political strategy, and reorientation to social values. In this case, yes, a strong leader will be necessary to implement all these changes and protect them from the inevitable resistance of both the West and our home-grown oligarchs, even if they impersonate patriots and guardians of the Russian state.

      Naturally, it is necessary to change both economic policy and social and leader ..
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 9 July 2020 14: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        A strong leader is a person who is not afraid to ask their subordinates and a strong leader subordinates are responsible for failure, failure to fulfill plans, promises .. A strong leader does not allow nepotism .. That's all it matters .. and why in modern conditions it impossible?

        Oh. If it were possible. Having never justified the current authorities, I want to note that the subordinates are now not the same. Try, demand something in a categorical form. Instantly tears in my eyes, beating in my chest, because I wanted the best. And if you blame someone for something, then the specialist will simply quit. Then look for someone to replace. Now everyone wants to cut the dough, as much as possible, and not answer for anything. Otherwise, you just will not find anyone. I expressed all this in my trading enterprise. And at that level, I think tear will be worse.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 9 July 2020 14: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: lis-ik
          And at that level, I think tear will be worse.

          And here the personnel department should work. And accordingly, select suitable people.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 9 July 2020 14: 17 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: lis-ik
            And at that level, I think tear will be worse.

            And here the personnel department should work. And accordingly, select suitable people.

            So he works and selects on the basis of personal devotion. That’s why we have both the Minister of Defense who did not serve in the army, the head of Gazprom, who has nothing to do with the industry, and the journalist leading Roscosmos.
            1. AUL
              AUL 9 July 2020 16: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: lis-ik
              So he works and selects on the basis of personal devotion.

              A strong leader, if the personnel department will be fully responsible for the selection of personnel, such a situation is unlikely to arise!
              1. your1970
                your1970 7 August 2020 23: 24 New
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                Quote: AUL
                Quote: lis-ik
                So he works and selects on the basis of personal devotion.

                A strong leader, if the personnel department will be fully responsible for the selection of personnel, such a situation is unlikely to arise!

                Is Stalin a strong leader? Without a doubt!! tell you.
                But there are Golovanov's memories - like Zhigarev in the fall of 1941 lied in the Eyes of Stalin and was exposed.
                Due to Zhigarev's fault, 702 aircraft did not reach the front.
                Shot? Private in the penalty box?
                Oga, shchaz- general to the Far East .. ..
            2. Stalllker
              Stalllker 9 July 2020 17: 06 New
              10
              - Each new broom places its people everywhere.
              “I hope you're my man?”
              - Sure! True, until this moment I was nobody's.
              Tell you where this dialogue comes from and what year it is !?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 9 July 2020 20: 02 New
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                Quote: Stalllker
                Tell you where this dialogue comes from and what year it is !?

                From the anti-adviser Ryazanov.
                1. Stalllker
                  Stalllker 9 July 2020 20: 57 New
                  +2
                  This suggests that the authorities always put their people closer to themselves, you can call them anything you like, loyal, helpful, sixes, etc., but these are his people, it has always been and always will be. And it doesn’t matter in which country, it doesn’t matter in which area. Any boss keeps people “devoted” to him
          2. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 9 July 2020 18: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: Svarog
            And here the personnel department should work. And accordingly, select suitable people.

            And where are you in a society, the measure of social success in which is the amount of money received, will you find yourself disinterested, willing to plow for an idea? And even more so in the structure of a commercial enterprise, the owner of which is primarily puzzled by the sum of profit for himself, dear and beloved? Yes, it even sounds kind of silly)
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 9 July 2020 18: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Aleksandre
              And where are you in a society, the measure of social success in which is the amount of money received, you will find disinterested people who agree to plow for the idea

              You definitely answered me ..? Where do I say that you need to plow for an idea?
              1. Aleksandre
                Aleksandre 9 July 2020 19: 16 New
                +5
                Quote: Svarog
                You definitely answered me ..? Where do I say that you need to plow for an idea?

                Right There are two reasons to do the job: for material gain and for idea. The vast majority do this for the first, and the ceiling of these same benefits is not limited in the imagination, and specialists in their fields are also no exception. Therefore, anyone who has a demand in the labor market needs to deeply spit on how much he is appreciated at his current job, how much benefit he brings and other romantic rubbish. The main criterion is the level of payment, if in another place of equal value they offer more, then it is time to change jobs. Or, having the opportunity, begin to steal on the old one, in the form of compensation for lost profits)
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 9 July 2020 19: 22 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Aleksandre
                  Exactly.

                  You are apparently talking to yourself .. success laughing
                  I repeat the question again ..
                  where do I say that you need to plow for an idea?
                  1. Aleksandre
                    Aleksandre 9 July 2020 19: 26 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Svarog
                    You are apparently talking to yourself .. success laughing
                    Once again I repeat the question .. where do I say that you need to plow for an idea?

                    You, apparently, take part in so many conversations at the same time that you are not able to keep track of its beginning (not yours) and further development laughing

                    But you can do nothing more, suggest taking “suitable” ones (which is valuable advice), which, apparently, will appear at the click of your fingers.
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 9 July 2020 19: 29 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Aleksandre
                      You, apparently, take part in so many conversations at the same time that you are not able to keep track of its beginning (not yours) and further development

                      So point me to its beginning, if it is .. or you troll so mercilessly wassat
                      The third time I repeat the question r
                      de I say that you need to plow for an idea?
                      1. Aleksandre
                        Aleksandre 9 July 2020 19: 51 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog
                        The third time I repeat the question where do I say that you need to plow for an idea?

                        Armenian radio answers your questions:
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And accordingly, select suitable people.

                        What “suitable” are these: cool specialists, skillful, efficient? Well, there are those, although there are not many. But why did you get the idea that, having traveled a long way of study and labor, so to speak, practice, they will occupy places in power not for their own material benefits, not only official, but also semi-official, and even completely unofficial? Did they plow before their ascent in order to live on the same salary of a civil servant? Yes schazz, yeah.
                        In order to work for the sake of society, for the idea, the very idea is needed - to live not so much for oneself, but for the sake of others. Have you seen many of these?
                        And all because this society, deprived of "suitable" leaders, itself bears as a slogan: "A lot of money is a successful person, a little money is a loser."

                        I hope I answered quite clearly for your perception?
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 9 July 2020 20: 03 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Aleksandre
                        I hope I answered quite clearly for your perception?

                        Your answer was immediately clear, you just thought a lot for me and pulled your ears to my phrase, your inference. Although I partly agree with him. But there is a big BUT. In fact, a person works not only for money, motivation, in addition to money, is to realize his own potential, achieve a goal, career .. and much more, someone who is looking for money, connections .. such a person can be identified at the first interview. So in a year there will again be little .. Simply put, money is important, but far from the determining motivation. If a professional personnel department, then the right person can be selected in any system, regardless of the social system.
                        And all because this society, deprived of "suitable" leaders, itself bears as a slogan: "A lot of money is a successful person, a little money is a loser."

                        In this part, I agree completely. Namely, the ideology of no money was formed - a loser. In today's system, this formula will work harder every year, thereby sharpening society by one value — money. This value will never lead society to prosperity. hi
                      3. Aleksandre
                        Aleksandre 9 July 2020 20: 22 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Svarog

                        Your answer was immediately clear, you just thought a lot for me and pulled your ears to my phrase, your inference.

                        I didn’t think of a single gram, this is a natural logical conclusion about (well, at least from my point of view) who can be “suitable” for serving the community.
                        In fact, a person works not only for money, motivation is, in addition to money, the realization of one’s own potential, achievement of a goal, career .. and much more

                        Yes, surely there are some, although not to say that in large quantities. I meet a lot of such among volunteers of all stripes, I have seen among doctors.
                        But! The opinion of society about oneself, beloved, is no less important for the majority, but it ... (see above)
                        If a professional personnel department, then the right person can be selected in any system, regardless of the social system.

                        I admit that somewhere there is a super-duper human resources department, with professional and subtle psychologists who can split even any gifted artist, but I have never met them. Even the interview is difficult, mostly all somehow more stupid questionnaires from the manuals. Maybe for OK there are not enough suitable specialists? )
                      4. Svarog
                        Svarog 9 July 2020 20: 34 New
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                        Yes, surely there are some, although not to say that in large quantities.

                        In fact, there are a lot of such people and they are the best.
                        I admit that somewhere there is a super-duper human resources department, with professional and subtle psychologists who can split even any gifted artist, but I have never met

                        And I did. I worked for 20 years in Western corporations .. Americans have the most professional HR. And if you expand this topic, then in general, Americans are the best in business. How many worked in our and with our offices .. heaven and earth. From that and that's it ..
                        basically all somehow more stupid questionnaires from the training manual

                        This is exactly the case with us ... moreover, those who ask stupid questions do not even know which answer should be correct, since the answer does not follow the next clever question on this topic laughing
                        Maybe for OK there are not enough suitable specialists? )

                        Definitely. In Russian business, I did not meet professionals at OK at all .. for three years while I was looking for work, I went through about 80 interviews .. and not one interesting one, everything happened exactly as you described above.
                        OK is the most important part of the organization, only our businessmen do not think so. laughing
    2. Alf
      Alf 9 July 2020 19: 03 New
      +7
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: lis-ik
      And at that level, I think tear will be worse.

      And here the personnel department should work. And accordingly, select suitable people.

      But there is no particular choice. The specialist will not allow himself to be treated like a slave, and the owner will not be particularly eager to create conditions, because I’ll pay him worthy; I won’t buy a gelding.
      And then this same entrepreneur with honest eyes assures that there are no pros, there is nobody to work.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 July 2020 23: 05 New
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        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: lis-ik
        And at that level, I think tear will be worse.

        And here the personnel department should work. And accordingly, select suitable people.

        But there is no particular choice. The specialist will not allow himself to be treated like a slave, and the owner will not be particularly eager to create conditions, because I’ll pay him worthy; I won’t buy a gelding.
        And then this same entrepreneur with honest eyes assures that there are no pros, there is nobody to work.

        Not quite so - a normal entrepreneur understands that it is more profitable for a good specialist to pay a large salary. In some cases, make a companion. Simple math - a good hired worker brings you profit x 4. A good professional companion who does not know how to sell and communicate x 8. Four low-paid gray people x 1.25 - their salary
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 11 July 2020 19: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Not quite so - a normal entrepreneur understands that it is more profitable for a good specialist to pay a large salary.

          How endangered there are few normal entrepreneurs in this world. laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 11 July 2020 19: 56 New
            0
            Agree laughing And some people don’t understand that it’s always profitable to give the client a little puff of himself - he will be happy, will return, he will also bring all his own))
      2. Rostislav
        Rostislav 9 July 2020 23: 33 New
        +8
        Talk nonsense. Specialists will not work, - there will be no normal production, - there will be no profit - there will be no "buy gelding for yourself."
        I know what I'm talking about. With my small production (62 workers + 5 in the office) since the 95th year I manage, we work in 2 shifts.
        The normal order of things is when you first have a microwave and a refrigerator in the cabins for workers, more powerful than a computer engineer, and only then a new chair.
        1. Alf
          Alf 10 July 2020 18: 50 New
          +4
          Quote: Rostislav
          The normal order of things is when you first have a microwave and a refrigerator in the cabins for workers, more powerful than a computer engineer, and only then a new chair.

          That's it, that 'normal', a much larger number of people buy a chair first.
  2. Alf
    Alf 9 July 2020 19: 01 New
    +6
    Quote: lis-ik
    And if you blame someone for something, then the specialist will simply quit. Then look for someone to replace.

    And who destroyed the entire training system? Why does the country choke on the lack of locksmiths, turners, seamstresses and minders, and the crowds of lawyers, advocates, economists, managers do not know what to do?
    Normal specialists leave only in two cases - either miserable RFP and terrible working conditions or management on the principle of "I’m the boss, you d..rak."
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 July 2020 23: 09 New
      0
      Because it’s easier to produce in China (at the same time no one will squeeze anything out wink), and managers sell, store and deliver. And lawyers give less reason to push laughing
      1. Alf
        Alf 10 July 2020 18: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        produce easier in china

        And why ?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 July 2020 19: 22 New
          0
          Because a unit of production with Chinese production costs less than ours
          1. Alf
            Alf 10 July 2020 19: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Because a unit of production with Chinese production costs less than ours

            And why ? Develop a theme, develop ... So, you look, and we will reach the true reasons.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 01 New
              0
              1) China will not squeeze production
              2) In Chinese villages, scanty pensions (in the region of 3000 rubles), which began to be paid recently, are accordingly a mass of cheap labor, which understands that it can only live on old age from savings
              3) Cheap rental of premises, high discipline (for the above reasons), the employee can be fired without any “first-second” warnings
              4) There is no tax 40% from the employer
              1. Alf
                Alf 10 July 2020 20: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: Krasnodar
                1) China will not squeeze production
                2) In Chinese villages, scanty pensions (in the region of 3000 rubles), which began to be paid recently, are accordingly a mass of cheap labor, which understands that it can only live on old age from savings
                3) Cheap rental of premises, high discipline (for the above reasons), the employee can be fired without any “first-second” warnings
                4) There is no tax 40% from the employer

                So great..
                Now the question is, what prevents (or who) introduce items 1, 3, 4 in Russia?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 17 New
                  +1
                  This is also very interesting to me. )))
                2. Alf
                  Alf 10 July 2020 20: 20 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  This is also very interesting to me. )))

                  In my humble opinion, this is hindered by the regime that entered the Kremlin in 1991.
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 23 New
                  -1
                  No
                  This is hampered by our own asses - entrepreneurs who, instead of organizing themselves, try to save up money to get out of this country, and not lobby their groups of influence in the State Duma. )))
                4. Alf
                  Alf 10 July 2020 20: 25 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  This is hampered by our own asses - entrepreneurs who, instead of organizing themselves, try to save up money to get out of this country, and not lobby their groups of influence in the State Duma. )

                  In the State Duma, only one group of influence is the raw aristocrats, moreover, supported by the main tenant of the Kremlin. Others are not allowed there.
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 29 New
                  +1
                  Do you know the principles of lobbying? )) And what then does so many athletes, artists, pharmaceutical dealers and others do?
                6. Alf
                  Alf 10 July 2020 20: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Do you know the principles of lobbying? )) And what then does so many athletes, artists, pharmaceutical dealers and others do?

                  But who started them there, who created a system in which it is only profitable to pump oil and gas? WHO, finally, created such a system in which it is not profitable to produce anything at all? And who does not allow the latest manufacturing businessmen to unite in a community?
                7. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 39 New
                  0
                  Who launched there, for example, Kobzon? )))
                  Agricultural is also profitable, like metal, like trade, like so many other areas))
                  It is unprofitable to produce because of China (this is not only a Russian problem)
                  But to unite businessmen does not give the mentality - Russian. They quickly get tired, believing that in this country there will never be anything good - because of the venality and theft of the population. Therefore, they prefer to save money and topple over.
                8. Alf
                  Alf 10 July 2020 20: 57 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  But to unite businessmen does not give the mentality - Russian. They quickly get tired, believing that in this country there will never be anything good - because of the venality and theft of the population.

                  Clearly, the people are not the same. Not bandits in power, and the people are not the one ..
                9. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 10 July 2020 20: 59 New
                  0
                  And where did the power come from? Did they bring it from Mars? Jewish mafia? CIA agents? laughing Blood and flesh from the people is this power. Most are at least with a glorious Komsomol past. hi
  • AK1972
    AK1972 10 July 2020 08: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: Alf
    And who destroyed the entire training system? Why does the country choke on the lack of locksmiths, turners, seamstresses and minders, and the crowds of lawyers, advocates, economists, managers do not know what to do?

    Exactly! Destroyed not only the training system, but education as a whole. Living example. We needed a technologist for cutting sheet metal on a plasma cutting machine, there are no ready-made specialists, but they also teach a bear to ride a motorcycle, and in general, there’s no need for a big mind. A girl came - a whole master of economics, a graduate of a Moscow university, could not find work in her specialty. They started to teach her how to program cutting cards, and suddenly it turns out that she does not know the multiplication table ... This economistKarl !!!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 July 2020 21: 38 New
      +1
      Yes, school education is not to hell, and you can buy a university
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 9 July 2020 23: 21 New
    +2
    And if you blame someone for something, then the specialist will simply quit.

    "A woman with a cart, the mare is easier." Do not be afraid to dismiss those who can not cope.
  • Berkut752
    Berkut752 7 September 2020 19: 40 New
    0
    You are wrong, perhaps in trade and there is such a practice, in production everything is different.
  • NIKN
    NIKN 9 July 2020 14: 08 New
    11
    Yes you are right. All in all, well, you need to fight for the country, and not to indulge thieves.
  • Machito
    Machito 9 July 2020 14: 52 New
    20
    In fact, Putin trampled the Constitution, and there is a dictator of the oligarchy.
  • Civil
    Civil 9 July 2020 15: 28 New
    +2
    How many more “LEADERS" do poor Russia need to stop praying for the Master’s Boot. Decide everything yourself, do not wait for a kick under the belt.
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker 9 July 2020 17: 03 New
    0
    And what should be the economic policy, social, and what can you offer for the role of a new leader?
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 9 July 2020 18: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    Naturally, it is necessary to change both economic policy and social and leader ..

    but how to do it without a STRONG PERSONALITY (who was Koba)? No way ... We need to break through the knee, sanctions, timelines, executions at last, otherwise our top "coast has lost" completely ...
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 9 July 2020 18: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    A strong leader is a person who is not afraid to ask his subordinates and a strong leader subordinates are responsible for failures, failure to fulfill plans, promises ..

    One tried for two years, although on the 9th of GDP he decided that he spoils his indicators, well, if our Sergey Ivanovich from various regions wrote words of support during his work, and people from the Krasnodar Territory wrote in general, in April, we would like Sergey Ivanovich to the next election you ran for us, don’t you believe? Go to the instagram of our governor, well, at least not so long ago he was in the public domain ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 July 2020 18: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65

      One tried for two years, though on the 9th of GDP he decided that he spoils his indicators, well, if our Sergey Ivanovich

      Do you mean Furgala? I know little about him, only what the media present. Tell us about his merits, what did he do well?
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 10 July 2020 00: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        I know little about him, only what the media present. Tell us about his merits, what did he do well?

        The list of what he did when he came to power is already on the net. It's just that he reduced his salary and other payments to himself and other officials already in his favor, though some shout that he is a populist, but we began to build roads that, under the previous governor, died completely ...
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 9 July 2020 19: 03 New
    +5
    Quote: Svarog
    it is necessary to change both economic policy and social and leader ..

    Or simply put, the system, which is the policy of power, the economy and the leader.
  • frog
    frog 10 July 2020 09: 16 New
    +1
    Even on our wonderful TV there are programs about how wonderful they fought against nepotism and the rest with ..... "strong leader". Archival documents are demonstrated by prosecutors in decent ranks. This is to say that a strong leader is not a guarantee of the absence of corruption, nepotism and other things. Another thing is that with it, only their own conditionally can be smoked. All the rest with a strong sovereign hand will be indicated .....
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 10 July 2020 14: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    A strong leader does not allow nepotism ..

    The youngest in the history of the USSR the lieutenant general became one in ... 29 years old, in the 1940s, of course, “without nepotism”, and purely “for merit” lol laughing !
  • nekromonger
    nekromonger 11 July 2020 00: 17 New
    +1
    how will he change the development strategy, if those who need to be strangled is the clique that brought him to power?
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 9 July 2020 13: 49 New
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    It is extremely necessary! And the author for some reason decided that it would not be Stalin, but Samos, and without completely decaying the reasons for his conclusions. And this is his key mistake.
    Is it random?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 9 July 2020 13: 59 New
      13
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And the author for some reason decided that it would not be Stalin, but Samos, and without completely decaying the reasons for his conclusions.

      The president is always the spokesman for the interests of the ruling class, the ruling class in our country is a large oligarchy, which acquired its assets during criminal privatization. That's exactly why it will be the next Samos or Pinochet.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 9 July 2020 14: 14 New
      10
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      It is extremely necessary! And the author for some reason decided that it would not be Stalin, but Samos, and without completely decaying the reasons for his conclusions. And this is his key mistake.

      It seems that a strong leader is an ideology and what goals it sets.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 9 July 2020 14: 30 New
      +9
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      moreover, without decomposing the reasons for their conclusions. And this is his key mistake.
      Is it random?

      The key mistake is that the word leader came from ang. lead - lead, lead. If the leader is National, then this implies a national Goal to which he leads the people. The leaders of the groups lead these very groups and cannot be needed by all the people. The problem is the lack of a national idea; without it, a leader, an author of rights, is not needed.
    4. depressant
      depressant 9 July 2020 15: 17 New
      +5
      Ingvar 72, I’m barking, is not accidental. She is from the category of the statement: "Ah, you did not vote for the amendments or, moreover, did you vote against? So you are an agent of the State Department!"
      1. Alf
        Alf 9 July 2020 19: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: depressant
        Ingvar 72, I’m barking, is not accidental. She is from the category of the statement: "Ah, you did not vote for the amendments or, moreover, did you vote against? So you are an agent of the State Department!"

        Yesterday the news has already passed. One of the deputies, of course from EP, issued the idea of ​​a bill-voted against-court.
        1. depressant
          depressant 9 July 2020 19: 19 New
          +3
          Served. And he knew, scoundrel, that Putin, having heard such a thing, would be indignant and say: “What nonsense!” But he will look favorably on the little man. After all, he gave him a reason to show that, as usual, he is great and bright)))
    5. apro
      apro 9 July 2020 15: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      It is extremely necessary! And the author for some reason decided that it would not be Stalin, but Samos, and without completely decaying the reasons for his conclusions. And this is his key mistake.
      Is it random?

      The author justified everything correctly. In capitalist Russia, there will be Samos ... without options. He will protect the capitalists. IV Stalin is possible in the USSR. In a communist country. A nation-wide state. Where there is no concept of profit in your pocket ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 July 2020 07: 51 New
        +3
        But what about Lee Kuaye Yu? He does not pull on Samos with Pinochet. What about the Chinese type of hybrid economy and system? wink
        Not all reasons are in the system. From my point of view, the main reason is that the power in the country was usurped by the colonial clique.
        They have goals only to suck resources.
        And at the moment it is much easier to change the system, because under capitalism there is no probability that the vector of development (degradation) will change. hi
        1. apro
          apro 10 July 2020 07: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          But what about Lee Kuaye Yu?

          Ingvar.there is a good review by Klim Zhukov and on prime numbers on YouTube on this topic. Singapore miracles are not badly painted there.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 July 2020 09: 23 New
            +1
            I watch Kamolova regularly. Most agree.
            P. S. Someone is breathing unevenly towards our dialogue, they have both faced minuses! laughing
            1. apro
              apro 10 July 2020 09: 27 New
              -1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Someone is breathing unevenly for our dialogue, they have both faced minuses!

              Ingvar.This is normal in public space.
    6. KERMET
      KERMET 9 July 2020 15: 56 New
      +3
      The reasons are just described in the article - a different economic system, re-read again, maybe it will
    7. Galleon
      Galleon 9 July 2020 16: 45 New
      +4
      Igor, hi , all the talk about the new Stalin is a big meanness, using our sense of revenge for the insult about the destroyed country and life. We are talking about Stalin, as the implementer of the principle of social equality and some form of justice, as a person who worked very hard and made everyone work hard to transform the country, but those who start these conversations - power - by Stalin means only Tough AND UNCOMPROMISING WITH THE SOCIETY OWN OWN BOARD. Can you imagine what will happen if we now, without changing anything, vote for the new Stalin? Immediately we all sit in a single concentration camp, for self-isolation. And people like you and me will start to pay fines or sit down for your thoughts of crime, calculated through working with BigData.
      Therefore, now - in our situation - it is categorically impossible to talk about the new Stalin. First, we need to talk about a radical change of power and elite, a radical change in legislation, a complete and repeated replacement of medical personnel of punitive and supervisory authorities - and only then, and maybe not later, and with it - the establishment of those same social equality and social justice for all . And then it will not matter who is leading there. There, in Switzerland, the richest country where almost every family has automatic weapons, every year a new president. They don’t even know who goes to work at the government house on the tram.
      But is this possible with us? ... Only bitterly grin. I don’t know ... I won’t say for the whole country, but only some new Inquisition can clear the Russian Orthodox Church of money-grubbing, meanness and blueness
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 9 July 2020 17: 25 New
        -5
        Quote: Galleon
        Over in Switzerland, the richest country

        Switzerland is the first country in the world where the law on same-sex marriage was adopted by popular vote (!), Against there were a small number of cantons with a rural Catholic population.
        By the way, the% of suicides among the rich local population is one of the highest in Western Europe.
        Ministers got by tram to work.
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 9 July 2020 17: 41 New
          +9
          It is regrettable that the level of your discussion and arguments on such a deep and serious issue has come down to the fact that he has someone behind the bedroom door and in underpants.
          Riding on a tram is more honest and socially fairer, and impunity and crazy wealth creates not only homosexuality, but also pedophilia, which is even more disgusting, the victims of which are abandoned children.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 9 July 2020 17: 50 New
            -2
            Quote: Galleon
            It’s unfortunate that the level of your discussion and arguments on such a deep and serious issue has come down to the fact that someone has a bedroom door and underpants

            Of course, this all upsets, but how to understand your level of discussion on such a serious issue.
            Quote: Galleon
            but the Russian Orthodox Church can be cleared of money-grubbing, meanness and blueness only by some new Inquisition

            Ah, reproach me.
            In Switzerland, as you say, it would be nice to work on the Inquisition.
            In any case, as I understand it.
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 9 July 2020 18: 09 New
              +7
              If we take into account the scale of sins among the princes of the Church and their servants, then everything can be cleared, probably, only by the Inquisition. In Switzerland, I don’t care what anyone has in their pants and who considers themselves who they are, they will sort it out themselves. And it depends on the dirt in my Church. the fate of my homeland. Isn't that clear?
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 9 July 2020 18: 23 New
                -6
                Quote: Galleon
                Isn't that clear?

                Unclear.
                Which means -... my Church doesn’t sound quite modest.
                And what kind of dirt is in the Church? There was never any dirt in the Church, there is not and cannot be, it’s even awkward to talk about it.
                Do not confuse its individual representatives with the Church itself.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 9 July 2020 19: 28 New
                  +4
                  Quote: bober1982
                  Do not confuse its individual representatives with the Church itself.

                  Here is THIS representative?

                  Or this one?

                  As the Bible says, judge them according to their works.
                  But he is the person of the Church, what then is going on “below”?
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 9 July 2020 19: 36 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Alf
                    As the Bible says, judge them according to their works.
                    But he is the person of the Church, what then is going on “below”?

                    It’s commendable, I mean, this ..... judging them by their deeds, well-read, that is, picked up quotes. This is nothing, it happens.
                    What else ...... Face Churches? If we have already switched to theology, then I will ask theologically - where did such heresies come from?
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 9 July 2020 19: 50 New
                      +3
                      Quote: bober1982
                      What else ...... The face of the Church?

                      Is the patriarch not the head of the Russian Orthodox Church?
                      Quote: bober1982
                      If we have already switched to theology, then I will ask theologically - where did such heresies come from?

                      As the Bible says, judge them according to their works.

                      Isn't the quote from the Bible?
                      According to the photos there is something to refute?
                      Let's go further.





                      There is something to refute? Only specifically, without church verbiage?
                    2. Alf
                      Alf 9 July 2020 19: 52 New
                      +5
                      After the same series.

                    3. frog
                      frog 10 July 2020 09: 28 New
                      +1
                      Can I add?))
                      The land plot 23: 40: 0508010: 69 is located on the territories of sections 1 and 3 of block 80A of the Kabarda precinct forestry of the Gelendzhik forestry, has an area of ​​3,5 hectares, is covered with forest. The main breed growing here is the relict species Pitsunda pine, included in the Red Book of Russia. The plot is part of the Dzhanhotsky pine forest of Pitsunda pine, the largest site of this species in our country. This circumstance did not prevent the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Krasnodar Territory in 2015 from leasing it for 49 years to the Moscow Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church under conditions of non-immediate use. - of business significance "for the purpose of" using forests for religious activities "- officially, disregarding the requirements of the Forest Code, which prohibits the construction of capital facilities in forests, the Kuban Ministry of Natural Resources has given relict forest for development
                  2. bober1982
                    bober1982 9 July 2020 20: 18 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Alf
                    Only specifically, without church verbiage?

                    But you yourself began with the “church” verbiage, and finished classical verbiage.
                  3. Alf
                    Alf 9 July 2020 20: 20 New
                    +4
                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Alf
                    Only specifically, without church verbiage?

                    But you yourself began with the “church” verbiage, and finished classical verbiage.

                    Clearly, there is nothing to say ...
                  4. bober1982
                    bober1982 9 July 2020 20: 27 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Alf
                    Clearly, there is nothing to say ...

                    From the Bible, quote, you mean?
                  5. Alf
                    Alf 9 July 2020 20: 29 New
                    +5
                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Alf
                    Clearly, there is nothing to say ...

                    From the Bible, quote, you mean?

                    According to the facts I cited. Do not pretend to be ...
                    Yes, and the quote too.
                  6. bober1982
                    bober1982 9 July 2020 20: 38 New
                    -5
                    Quote: Alf
                    According to the facts I brought

                    What other facts?
                    The earth is round - this is a fact or, the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea.
                  7. Alf
                    Alf 9 July 2020 20: 39 New
                    +4
                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Alf
                    According to the facts I brought

                    What other facts?
                    The earth is round - this is a fact or, the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea.

                    Well, well, pretend to be further ...
    8. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 9 July 2020 19: 38 New
      +1
      Nonsense.
      You cannot take an apple of pure gold the size of two fists with your fingers; you cannot give it with one pen ...
      Maybe gilded? But then this is a completely different story laughing
      1. Alf
        Alf 9 July 2020 20: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Sacmagon
        Maybe gilded? But then this is a completely different story

        Yes, even if foam, the fact itself is. So it can be hollow.
    9. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 9 July 2020 21: 58 New
      +1
      So what, Yanukovych was presented with a golden loaf, moreover, Stalin for priestly affairs?
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  • RitaNik
    RitaNik 9 July 2020 21: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: bober1982
    Quote: Galleon
    Isn't that clear?

    Unclear.
    Which means -... my Church doesn’t sound quite modest.
    And what kind of dirt is in the Church? There was never any dirt in the Church, there is not and cannot be, it’s even awkward to talk about it.
    Do not confuse its individual representatives with the Church itself.


    And what bothers you? For believers, the Church is a family where everyone is a brother and sister. Its head is Christ.
    Why immodest if a person calls his family ?!
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 9 July 2020 18: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    for some reason, the author decided that it would not be Stalin, but Samos, and without completely decaying the reasons for his conclusions

    You did not manage to see clearly what will happen (or will be) either Pinochet, or Samos-whom the oligarchs will bring (already bring?) To power, and all his actions lead only to protect their interests.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 9 July 2020 13: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    Needed. IMHO.

    Only after a change in the socio-economic formation. The author correctly says that otherwise it will be some kind of Pinochet.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 9 July 2020 14: 30 New
      -3
      After the change in the socio-economic formation, Pinochet will certainly not come. The truth may come Pol Pot.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 9 July 2020 17: 58 New
        0
        God forbid. In general, dreams of a strong leader, and not even so, dreams of a dictator like Stalin, are the lot of a slave. Dreams of a man who signed that he is insignificant, that he is stupid like a cork, that he needs a master who will indicate when to plow, when to rest, when to sing hosanna. He himself is unreasonable, a child, although this "child" is already under fifty years old, but the master's whip is required.
        Moreover, interestingly, to the great constructions of communism, these adherents of the host cult want to send others, broadcasting themselves from the rostrum, having left in the evening for the party cottage, and having eaten from the special distributor. And you, knead concrete, knee-deep in the mud, live in a barracks, and praise us, praise. And if not, you don’t want to, before you have the NKVD, it will instruct. Oh communists, such communists ...
        1. dauria
          dauria 10 July 2020 00: 38 New
          0
          broadcasting themselves from the rostrum, having driven off in the evening to the party cottage, and having eaten from the special distributor.


          Indeed, what else do people need? After all, wherever you look - all around are former members of the CPSU. Starting with the president. They make only one mistake - they would glorify Stalin, and they scold him. wink
    2. AUL
      AUL 9 July 2020 16: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      The author correctly says that otherwise it will be some kind of Pinochet.

      By the way, Pinochet during the years of his reign has great boosted the economy of Chile.
      And, in the opinion of the author of the article, can a weak leader, a puppet in someone’s playful hands, stand in power of the state?
      1. dauria
        dauria 10 July 2020 00: 50 New
        0
        puppet in someone's playful hands?

        All decent bourgeois states live and do not complain. Only not in someone else's, but in quite specific ones, are the groups of the largest owners of everything, who have concluded a settlement agreement among themselves. Of course, they also take into account the Wishlist of working cattle and the stratum of the petty bourgeoisie — warm barn, zhrachka and “stability”.
  • Vend
    Vend 9 July 2020 14: 06 New
    -17
    at the expense of oil money, periodic payments of one-off allowances for populist purposes will be carried out, and that’s all.
    However, the author clumsily turns the facts inside out laughing There will be many more such articles after the successful completion of the vote for amendments to the Constitution, now the enemies of Russia can only spit on, everything they can reach. Each time has its own strong leaders. Nowadays, this is Putin, the man who lifted the country from his knees. at that time it is Stalin. And no matter how liberals and enemies of Russia go out of their way, trying to hush up the achievements of our country, they will not succeed, because it is enough to simply compare the 90s and the present.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 9 July 2020 16: 14 New
      +5
      the man who lifted the country from his knees.
      Let's remember something. They started talking about something that he raised from his knees in 2014, but until then they were standing on his knees?
      1. Vend
        Vend 9 July 2020 16: 24 New
        -4
        Quote: Gardamir
        the man who lifted the country from his knees.
        Let's remember something. They started talking about something that he raised from his knees in 2014, but until then they were standing on his knees?

        Yes, it’s still put it mildly, in the 90s they didn’t stand on their knees, but crawled in the mud and licked their feet with western bigwigs.
      2. mark2
        mark2 9 July 2020 16: 25 New
        -3
        They talked until 2014. In the 14th year, they simply concluded.
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 9 July 2020 17: 21 New
      -4
      Many who write here, in the 90s hung a cloudy drop from his father. They don’t know what time it was.
      1. Vend
        Vend 9 July 2020 17: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Stalllker
        Many who write here, in the 90s hung a cloudy drop from his father. They don’t know what time it was.

        Are you talking to me? Do you know a contemporary of those events, I’m almost fifty dollars)) I know what I'm writing about.
        1. Stalllker
          Stalllker 9 July 2020 18: 38 New
          -1
          I wrote "THEY", so this is not for you
    3. Revival
      Revival 9 July 2020 19: 03 New
      0
      Keep it up!
      laughing laughing laughing laughing lol
    4. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 9 July 2020 19: 38 New
      -1
      Quote: Wend
      And no matter how liberals and enemies of Russia go out

      But what about the fact that Putin has repeatedly talked about himself as a liberal? Or is it a "military trick"?
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 9 July 2020 14: 17 New
    +3
    Another stupid article. The topic is correct, and the presentation is complete rubbish. What a journalist is taught at universities, probably, only to lie and write all kinds of nonsense, covering it with spreading cranberry phrases like “Do you need a new Stalin”, “Pinochet or“ Samos with Caudillo “. Well, at least they know about it.
    I’d take it as an antipode of Gorbachev or Yeltsin, otherwise it would be enough only for Pinochet and Samos.
    Dear Polonsky Ilya, a strong leader in Russia is not Stalin, and not Pinochet, and not Samos, and not Caudillo, but this is Alexander III, Peter I, Alexander II, Ivan the Terrible, from more distant times - Dmitry Donskoy, Ivan Kalita , Vladimir Red-sun, etc. You can also search among the great military leaders of Russia. You will definitely find a strong leader, and not one.
    Russia is rich in great and strong leaders, only you need to look at Russia not from the position of a freelance journalist who cannot combine the past and present history of Russia, but from the position of a Russian statesman who understands the greatness of Russia and its people, and knows and understands the history of Russia as a great state, heiress of Byzantium, 3rd Rome. 4th Rome does not happen.
    1. atos_kin
      atos_kin 9 July 2020 14: 42 New
      +8
      The great misfortune of our hardworking and decent ordinary people is

      What everyone writes to and about comrade Stalin is not lazy, and nobody wants to devote his whole life to the struggle for the interests of the working people.
      1. Pravodel
        Pravodel 9 July 2020 15: 02 New
        +1
        Not just “everyone who is not lazy,” but sometimes illiterate or illiterate, poorly versed in the history of Russia, journalists, political scientists and other brethren in the likeness of the author of the post. So it turns out complete nonsense, which can not even be called an article, and so - rubbish crumpled from high-profile phrases.
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 9 July 2020 18: 08 New
      0
      As for Peter the Great, I disagree. A rabid beast, the most faithful characteristic to him. Alcoholic, sadist, incredible blasphemer (One drunk cathedral is worth something, and Nikita Zotov is presiding there). This demon has turned the country off the normal path of development; we are still reaping the fruits.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 9 July 2020 14: 23 New
    12
    we need I. Stalin .. but also his team, represented by the entire Politburo, which raised both after the Civil War and after the Second World War. IT WERE PEOPLE-STATES.
    - and not these "effective" managers.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 9 July 2020 18: 12 New
      -1
      Well, if for you such personalities as comrades Bela Kun, Zemlyachka, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin, Tukhachevsky, Yezhov, Yagoda and bring them numbers are great personalities, then chur me, chur ...
  • Vladimir Glinsky
    Vladimir Glinsky 9 July 2020 14: 35 New
    +6
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    Needed. IMHO.

    It would be nice ... But only Stalin is possible only in the socialist system, without it he will turn into Pinochet, Franco or Mussolini. This thought is not enough, IMHO, in the author’s article. I would agree if the socialist system returned, then, you see, and Stalin would have appeared.
    1. tatra
      tatra 9 July 2020 15: 10 New
      +2
      Well, part of the analogue of Stalin is Lee Kuan Yu. Both of them carried out large-scale modernization of the country, both with the help of harsh political repressions. Both not in words, but in fact, fought corruption.
      1. apro
        apro 9 July 2020 15: 44 New
        0
        Quote: tatra
        Well, part of the analogue of Stalin is Lee Kuan Yu

        Dear Tatra. Study the materiel. This is not an example ... even from a part ...
    2. depressant
      depressant 9 July 2020 15: 26 New
      12
      Well yes. If Stalin, then socialism. And since there is no socialism, be content with Putin. Here is the main point of the article.
    3. KERMET
      KERMET 9 July 2020 15: 57 New
      +8
      In my opinion, the author just brings this idea
  • iouris
    iouris 9 July 2020 15: 22 New
    -5
    Are you a political marketer?
  • w70
    w70 9 July 2020 20: 16 New
    -2
    Under Yeltsin, the ideology of anti-Bolshevism began to take shape, but then a short man came and turned everything inside out, the propaganda of Stalinism began. here it is!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 July 2020 22: 44 New
    0
    The great misfortune of our hardworking and decent ordinary people is that they are still nostalgic for Soviet times,
    fool fool fool The author, people can’t be fooled and do not need an owl on the globe. Like, everything is out of step, one Schweik in leg.
  • frog
    frog 10 July 2020 09: 00 New
    0
    Needed. IMHO.

    What for?
  • Docx2032
    Docx2032 9 July 2020 13: 47 New
    +4
    Such a brilliant and powerful leader as Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin cannot appear in the current realities. Stalin was a counterweight to Churchill, Roosevelt, Hitler, who themselves were strong personalities. And even citizen Putin is able to balance impulsive Trump, the faceless Macron and old Merkel.

    "Hard times give birth to strong people,
    Strong people create good times.
    Good times give birth to weak people
    Weak people create hard times. "
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 July 2020 13: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: DocX2032
      Such a brilliant and powerful leader as Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin

      A weak-minded person cannot rule Russia, as Mr. Gorbachev proved. And the Leader is because the Leader because he stands out from the total human mass by a strong will.
      And forgive me, but at the expense of the "genius" of Joseph Vissarionovich, you still went too far. He was undoubtedly a Leader, with a strong will and enormous capacity for work, but he also made many mistakes ...
      1. Docx2032
        Docx2032 9 July 2020 14: 00 New
        +4
        Okay, we’ll replace “brilliant” with “talented”. The results of the Stalinist leadership: economic, military, political and social, will not lose their significance from this.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 9 July 2020 14: 11 New
        +9
        Quote: svp67
        but he made many mistakes ...

        Mistakes are not made only by those who do nothing. The end result is always important. And the result of Stalin’s reign is the best in the history of Russia, and certainly not even close to Putin’s result
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 July 2020 14: 13 New
          -5
          Quote: Svarog
          And the result of Stalin’s reign is the best in the history of Russia, and certainly not even close to Putin’s result

          Putin is still in power, so I would not be in a hurry with conclusions and comparisons ...
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 9 July 2020 14: 15 New
            10
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Svarog
            And the result of Stalin’s reign is the best in the history of Russia, and certainly not even close to Putin’s result

            Putin is still in power, so I would not be in a hurry with conclusions and comparisons ...

            Yes, I remember that power has been in power for 20 years and there is something to compare with and I think conclusions can already be drawn. If he had been in power for 4-5 years, then I would agree with you ..
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 July 2020 14: 17 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              If he had been in power for 4-5 years, then I would agree with you ..

              hi
            2. imobile2008
              imobile2008 9 July 2020 17: 45 New
              -9
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Svarog
              And the result of Stalin’s reign is the best in the history of Russia, and certainly not even close to Putin’s result

              Putin is still in power, so I would not be in a hurry with conclusions and comparisons ...

              Yes, I remember that power has been in power for 20 years and there is something to compare with and I think conclusions can already be drawn. If he had been in power for 4-5 years, then I would agree with you ..

              The specific results of Stalin? I did not pay pensions, benefits, too, few houses were built in big cities that can be counted on the fingers, several power plants and decommissioned machine tools from the United States for grain, after which the famine began. Roads were not built. Not enough achievements? No one in the country could have managed worse than Stalin.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 9 July 2020 18: 12 New
                +3
                Quote: imobile2008
                The specific results of Stalin?

                Enlighten yourself .. you obviously didn’t go through history even at school, or now they don’t write about Stalin?
                https://avn-msk.livejournal.com/1986433.html
                For 30 years, Stalin turned an agrarian, impoverished, country dependent on foreign capital into a powerful military-industrial power

                The impoverished and illiterate population of Tsarist Russia has become one of the most literate and educated nations in the world. The political and economic literacy of the workers and peasants by the beginning of the 50s was not only not inferior, but also surpassed the level of education of the workers and peasants of any developed country at that time. The population of the Soviet Union increased by 41 million people.

                Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including DneproGES, Uralmash, KhTZ, GAZ, ZIS, factories in Magnitogorsk, Chelyabinsk, Norilsk, Stalingrad. At the same time, over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built.

                Already in the 1947 year, the industrial potential of the USSR was fully restored, and in the 1950 year it grew more than 2 times in relation to the pre-war 1940 year. None of the countries affected by the war by this time even reached the pre-war level, despite powerful financial injections from the United States.

                Prices for basic foodstuffs, during the post-war 5 years in the USSR, fell more than 2 times, while in the largest countries these prices increased, and in some even 2 more than times.

                This indicates the tremendous success of a country in which only five years ago the most destructive war in the history of mankind ended and which suffered the most from this war !!

                In 1945, bourgeois experts gave an official forecast that the economy of the USSR would be able to reach the level of 1940 only by 1965 - provided that it took foreign loans. We reached this level in 1949 without any external help.

                In 1947, the USSR, the first after the war from the states of our planet, canceled the card system. And since 1948, annually - until 1954 - it reduced the prices of food and consumer goods. Child mortality in 1950 decreased by more than 1940 times compared to 2. The number of doctors increased by 1,5 times. The number of scientific institutions increased by 40%. The number of university students increased by 50%. Etc.

                The stores had an abundance of diverse industrial and food products and there was no concept of scarcity. The choice of products in grocery stores was much wider than in modern supermarkets. Now only in Finland you can try sausage, reminiscent of Soviet from those times. There were cans of crab in all Soviet stores. The quality and variety of consumer goods and food products, exclusively of domestic production, was incommensurably higher than modern consumer goods and food. As soon as new trends in fashion appeared, they were instantly tracked, and after a couple of months, fashionable goods appeared galore on store shelves.

                The wages of workers in 1953 ranged from 800 to 3000 rubles and higher. Miners and metallurgists received up to 8000 rubles. Young engineer specialists up to 1300 rubles. The secretary of the CPSU district committee received 1500 rubles, and the salaries of professors and academics were often higher than 10000 rubles.

                The Moskvich car cost 9000 p., White bread (1 kg.) - 3 p., Black bread (1 kg.) - 1 p., Beef meat (1 kg.) - 12.5 p., Pike perch - 8,3 , 1 p., Milk (2.2 l.) - 1 p., Potatoes (0,45 kg.) - 0,6 p., Zhiguli beer (2,9 l.) - 1 p., Chintz (6,1 m.) - 2 p. Complex lunch in the dining room was worth - 25 p. Evening in a restaurant for two, with a good dinner and a bottle of wine - XNUMX p.

                And all this abundance and a comfortable life was achieved, despite the content of 5,5 million, armed “to the teeth” with the most modern weapons, the best army in the world!

                Since 1946, work has been launched in the USSR: on atomic weapons and energy; on rocket technology; on automation of technological processes; to introduce the latest computer technology and electronics; on space flights; gasification of the country; on household appliances.

                The world's first nuclear power plant was commissioned in the USSR a year earlier than in England, and 2 a year earlier than in the United States. Only in the USSR were created nuclear icebreakers.

                Thus, in the USSR for one five-year period - from 1946 to 1950 - in the conditions of a tough military-political confrontation with the richest capitalist power of the world, at least three socio-economic problems were solved without any external assistance: 1) restored National economy; 2) sustained growth in living standards; 3) committed an economic breakthrough into the future.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 9 July 2020 22: 23 New
                  +1
                  But in the early 60s, the civilian sector was scored for post-industrialization in the USSR and began to devote more resources and resources to the military-industrial complex, bursting into the imposed arms race with all the force, at the same time, they began to put more than 100 rogue countries on their necks for loyalty and unequal barter, ultimately, in the 80s, the country began to run out of funds for all these races and supplies of friends, the entire civilian sector was hopelessly behind the western one in innovation and productivity, the state plan could not keep up with the real needs of the whole country, they began to buy more and more foreign products and food spending tens of billions petrodollars and gold from the reserve, and the subsequent arrival of Gorbachev with his initiatives and other not without well-known events both in the country itself and outside it accelerated the economic crisis, as a result of which new people came to the leadership and the USSR was covered with a gravestone.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 9 July 2020 16: 20 New
          +1
          not comparable to Putin’s result
          But listen to how he praises himself.

          1. Svarog
            Svarog 9 July 2020 16: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: Gardamir
            But listen to how he praises himself.

            He constantly says that he is mega effective .. but in what? that’s the question .. the key indicator for the country is everywhere a minus minus
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 9 July 2020 19: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              He constantly says that he is mega effective .. but in what? here is the question ..

              You forgot, the Forbes list is replenished with new billionaires. The well-being of the people on the Forbes list is constantly growing, and you say it’s ineffective. For his friends, he is very effective.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 July 2020 22: 26 New
              -2
              This is not his fat minus in everything - this is your solid minuses in life since you are not doing anything other than scribbles in the internet.
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 9 July 2020 14: 18 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        And forgive me, but at the expense of the "genius" of Joseph Vissarionovich, you still went too far. He was undoubtedly a Leader, with a strong will and enormous capacity for work, but he also made many mistakes ...

        do you think the genius doesn’t make mistakes ?! flawless only prophets. Or name genius (s), in your opinion, a leader from world history
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 July 2020 14: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Or name genius (s), in your opinion, a leader from world history

          Jesus Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Buddha ...
          1. Vladimir Glinsky
            Vladimir Glinsky 9 July 2020 14: 41 New
            +5
            Jesus Christ was not a leader at all. I think He would even be offended by such an assumption. Prophet Muhammad really led the army. True, we were talking about the head of state. And then there was no state as such - there was an army in an extensive movement. Now Buddha. And what did he supervise?
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 July 2020 15: 22 New
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir Glinsky
              Jesus Christ was not a leader at all.

              You are wrong, they are primarily spiritual leaders ...
          2. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 9 July 2020 15: 14 New
            +3
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Or name genius (s), in your opinion, a leader from world history

            Jesus Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Buddha ...

            Well, these are the prophets, I indicated above
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 July 2020 15: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Well, these are the prophets, I indicated above

              Spiritual Leaders
  • Uran53
    Uran53 9 July 2020 13: 52 New
    12
    The author decided to combine the incompatible: to unite a strong Leader - a patriot and the current socio-political, colonial, state structure. True, these things are incompatible in principle. People are waiting for a strong Leader, with the simultaneous dismantling of the current political system, reminiscent of the Russian Empire until 17 years.
    1. apro
      apro 9 July 2020 14: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Uran53
      The author decided to combine the incompatible: to unite a strong Leader - a patriot and the current socio-political, colonial, state structure

      No, the author directly indicates what a strong leader. Dictator will lead to.
      1. Uran53
        Uran53 9 July 2020 23: 20 New
        0
        Steal? So this style is not a strong leader, but a jackal. What is the current government in Russia
    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 9 July 2020 15: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Uran53
      People are waiting for a strong Leader, with the simultaneous dismantling of the current political system.
      Leader, this is the leader, right? Then explain how you can dismantle the old house? Several options come to mind.
      1. Build a new one, relocate people and then break the old one - slowly but efficiently.
      2. Warn about the breakdown, after a period of time, adjust the excavator and start breaking - quickly, but ineffectively.
      3. Lay a charge and immediately tear, not paying attention to circumstances and consequences - quickly and efficiently.
      Are there any better options?
      1. Polymer
        Polymer 9 July 2020 19: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir61
        Are there any better options?

        In any case, you need a new home first to design. Moreover, the developer and executor of the project is not necessarily the same person. Depending on the project, a plan for its implementation should appear.
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 9 July 2020 19: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Polymer
          In any case, the new blast furnace must first be designed
          Only the project does not depend on the art of "free masons", but on certain building standards !!!!
          1. Polymer
            Polymer 9 July 2020 20: 15 New
            +2
            Only the project does not depend on the art of "free masons", but on certain building standards !!!!

            And from standards too, but first of all - from customer requirements. And here is the nuance - who will be the customer?
  • Slavs
    Slavs 9 July 2020 13: 53 New
    0
    It's not even a dictate ... Why speculate on the oppression of the people and the leader of the oligarchy?
    State thinking, the desire for the country's leadership in the world and the protection of its interests, etc.
    But now it all comes down to stuffing pockets ...
    Moreover, I believe that with strict compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation at all levels WITHOUT exceptions, the situation in the country and in the current situation would be better ..
    But the observance of laws in our country today is a utopia ... Everyone ignores everyone.
    In short, yes, Stalin is needed.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 9 July 2020 13: 58 New
    +3
    I agree with the article. People are completely confused and many already perceive the “strong leader” as a virtual image created on the screen and which on the screen does what the “strong leader” needs. The very content of politics, what kind of society is this? In the name of what and for whom does it exist? is not generally recognized by people. The "strong leader" in a socialist country is one thing, and the country’s 3 cap.
    And so Somosa was a strong leader, Pinochet is a strong leader, and just how strong a leader Hitler was, you just swing.
    And with the perception of what a "strong leader" is within the framework of a particular social system, people have problems. A strong leader is not someone who says something “patriotic” on the screen. This is the one who makes and implements the right strategic decisions based on the interests of his society. Stalin’s strength is that “words like pound weights are true” (and we will also note deeds), which led the USSR from isolation and total devastation to a socialist superpower.
    Rossi, on the other hand, needs to get out of the trajectory leading straight from the post-Soviet state to the state of the country 3 cap. Here is the one who can do this, he will be a "strong leader."
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 9 July 2020 14: 00 New
    +9
    I.V. Stalin is one of the greatest people who can appear once a century, but despite his mind, will and leadership ability, he also had a circle of like-minded people in the person of the CPSU (b), a circle of associates, well-chosen associates and assistants performing his will, but most importantly the support of the people, the people who believed in him, who was ready to make any sacrifices for the victory of the new socialist society.
    If now such a person as Stalin appears, then he doesn’t, and cannot be, of the remaining components listed. The time of Pavel Korchagin, Komsomol volunteers, is now impossible to return. For this you need to ponder the lyrics

    We are the children of those who performed
    On the white squads.
    Who left his engine
    Going to the barricades.

    Our engine, fly forward.
    There is a stop in the commune.
    There is no other way for us—
    We have a rifle in our hands.

    Well, who will now be able to go to the barricades, and where is "such a party."
  • Courier
    Courier 9 July 2020 14: 05 New
    -12
    I propose strengthening the class struggle at all levels.
    First of all; start with fists. Concerning. Keep a record of the property of all citizens. Seize cars, villas, apartments, any other property in favor of the state. Send to labor camps, all fists who disagree to shoot on the spot. Enter all members of kulak families as enemies of the people. Remove from educational institutions, and send to labor camps.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 9 July 2020 14: 12 New
      +7
      Despite the frank sarcasm, you are very close to the right decision))
    2. KCA
      KCA 9 July 2020 14: 20 New
      +8
      Naturally, to keep records of movable and immovable property, bank accounts, shares in joint-stock companies, enterprises, all civil servants from the ordinary police, secretaries and other administration officials, mayors, governors, officers and, of course, generals, ministers, and compare with the amounts received years for 10 at the main job and the amounts indicated in tax returns and ask - where does the good come from? Well, of course, their children should be removed from foreign educational institutions and returned to their homeland, to their parents
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 9 July 2020 14: 22 New
      -6
      It is possible that those who advocate for Stalin 2.0 will encounter exactly this if their dreams come true. But it will be too late. Without sarcasm.
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 9 July 2020 14: 15 New
    12
    Rather, it will be a “clone” of Augusto Pinochet or even Anastasio Somosa, with all the ensuing consequences. That is, it will be a “strong leader” of the oligarchy, which will use its power potential, first of all, to further strengthen the financial and economic power of oligarchs and corporations and to protect the interests of oligarchs, including from the people.

    And why pinochet? And not Park Jung Hee for example? Also the leader of the oligarchy. Creator of the choboli families. But those choboli plowed, for the good of Korea, not for conscience but for fear. The party said, that is Pak, you will make cars, and if not the best in the world, then close to that .... No, on the whole, the collective farm is voluntary, if you want to make excellent cars, do not shoot them. Complete freedom of choice and democracy in full growth. Yeah. And during the incomplete 20 years of rule, he turned Korea from a backward, even against the background of neighbors of the northerners, very backward agrarian outback, into an extremely dynamically developing industrial power. Compare with the activities of our guarantor, who has ruled longer than Pak, and who had much more favorable conditions for starting.
    And why? And because, although he relied on the oligarchs, on the principle that the oligarchs are for Korea, and not like ours, Russia is for the oligarchs. There’s not even enough imagination to suggest what he would do with chobolas, if those were to be our billionaires, collecting yachts and mansions, and not investing in production. I remember that for the extra few pants, dressed at the reception, he could have had an educational conversation. Kicking. Sometimes on the head. Despite the thickness of the wallets.
    So not naldo la-la. It all depends on the goals set by the dictator. If a country is raised, it will be raised under socialism, both under capitalism and slavery. And if you please your friends ... Then, again, it will fall apart, regardless of system.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 9 July 2020 14: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      And why? And because, although he relied on the oligarchs, on the principle that the oligarchs are for Korea, and not like ours, Russia is for the oligarchs

      Well said hi
  • apro
    apro 9 July 2020 14: 18 New
    -2
    I completely agree with the author !!! without an idea we die ...
    1. prior
      prior 9 July 2020 15: 11 New
      10
      For 20 years, Putin drove Russians through the desert of life in search of the idea and meaning of life.
      After "twisting the run" will drive another 20 years ....
      1. apro
        apro 9 July 2020 15: 14 New
        -4
        Quote: prior
        20 years, Putin drove the Russians through the desert of life in search of ideas and the meaning of life

        What does he have to do with it?
        1. prior
          prior 9 July 2020 15: 17 New
          +4
          My idea is about the time of P.'s reign and the lack of a distinct national unifying idea.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 July 2020 16: 26 New
        +4
        After "twisting the run"
        good
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 July 2020 14: 21 New
    +9
    ... will in no way be the intercessor or protector of the people. In extreme cases, at the expense of oil money, periodic payments of some one-time allowances will be carried out for populist purposes, and that’s all.

    Why will it be already ..

    Stalin had real power, the vast majority of the country's citizens respected and loved him. Many sincerely cried when they heard of his passing.
    What of these do modern rulers have? Nothing. And will not be.
    Why? Because Stalin sincerely loved his homeland, his children fought and died in the war, along with everyone. They wrote to Stalin and received an answer. Stalin was closer to any Soviet person than any modern head of the district administration.
    Russia needs Stalin, but where to get it. Such people are not needed power.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 July 2020 14: 25 New
    0
    A modest and disinterested person, a charismatic leader of a successful revolution, which received real popular support, an ardent opponent of corruption and anarchy. He was not a tyrant, but a great patriot who loved the culture and lifestyle of his people. A man of monastic simple needs, did not seek wealth, fame and power for himself. His only great goal was to rid the country of capitalism, return to the traditions of the community and, building on them, build a new country. He called for an end to the policy of ruining the working people - the foundations of society, ending corruption, eliminating the eternal need to look at the opinions of other countries, putting things in order in the country and establishing a tough political regime of the firm hand that many people dream of.
    We will build a national community of harmony, which will be based on equality and democracy, the absence of exploiters and exploited, rich and poor, where everyone will work!

    Like?

    Then you need Pol Pot.
    Pinochet and Somosa are small children compared to him.
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    2. cniza
      cniza 9 July 2020 15: 53 New
      +1
      There is another type of leader, such as Lee Kuan Yu ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 9 July 2020 16: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Lee Kuan Yew

        Yes, but the Russians would not understand such a leader. He advocated multiculturalism, LGBT rights, and despite all the difficulties, he maintained business relations with the United States. By the way, his grandson - Lee Huanwu - gay in July 2018 married his partner, Han Iirui, in South Africa.
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 July 2020 17: 01 New
          +2
          I meant his fight against corruption, and everything else is not suitable. lol
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 9 July 2020 17: 09 New
            +5
            Quote: cniza
            everything else does not fit.

  • Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 9 July 2020 14: 28 New
    +3
    We need a national idea. Such that would capture everyone. Then the leader. On Mother Earth is already crowded. It is necessary to master the near extraterrestrial. Two-thirds of the planet is covered with water and the oceans are huge resources. Hydrocosmos must also be mastered. Move industry beyond the atmosphere (good, there’s an unlimited amount of solar electricity). We need a leader who understands the importance of these resources and emerging prospects. Then, let us condescendingly look at those who measure money and everything considers money and only money. Yes, and we will cough up for wars, because we will have a great future in our unknown, based on real (and standing) confidence, backed by technological superiority.
    There will be a leader of this kind, practical questions about employment themselves will disappear. It is necessary to strive for the stars. To the stars!

    “Humanity will not remain forever on earth” K.E. Tsiolkovsky.

    So what are we waiting for? We have the resources. Let's get a leader. No not like this. Leader (with a capital letter) - will read correctly.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 July 2020 22: 31 New
      0
      Well then, Russia needs its Ilon Mask - with large-scale space odyssey programs for mining minerals on other planets meteorites asteroids and populating satellites and planets of the solar system, but all this will require tens or even hundreds of trillions of rubles - with this, Russia is still a little tough.
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 9 July 2020 14: 34 New
    -2
    Only a tribe needs a leader, a normal country, and smart and self-sufficient people need an intelligent and inconspicuous administrator
  • rocket757
    rocket757 9 July 2020 14: 39 New
    -1
    . Stalin was the leader of a mobilization society, a Soviet state, united by a communist ideology and with a main goal

    Not possible, for many objective reasons.
    I want order, prosperity for the people and the state as a whole, but by no one's whim, will, now this can not happen.
    The recipe for prosperity, as the most affordable option, the unification of the masses to achieve specific goals ... everything is described in textbooks.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 9 July 2020 14: 42 New
    +4
    I can’t imagine that someone would shout during the attack: for Putin, hurray! And this is probably an indicator of faith (devotion).
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 9 July 2020 14: 52 New
      -7
      According to the memoirs of the front-line soldiers, only political workers shouted "For Stalin" - they were supposed to serve in the service. The infantry went on the attack with "Hurray" and an invincible Russian obscenity.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 9 July 2020 15: 13 New
        +8
        If only political workers shouted, as your familiar front-line soldiers say, their number was tens of thousands. Tens of thousands of selflessly devoted leaders of political workers.
      2. tatra
        tatra 9 July 2020 15: 18 New
        +6
        Your perestroika Alexander Yakovlev himself admitted "as boys we shouted at the front" for Stalin "
      3. parusnik
        parusnik 9 July 2020 16: 04 New
        +2
        The infantry went on the attack with "Hurray" and an invincible Russian obscenity.
        .... It seems over the past 30 years, the power has defeated an invincible Russian mat ... laughing
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 9 July 2020 16: 06 New
      +6
      Scha someone under the nickname of Mr. Petrov will come, he will teach the motherland and Putin to love ... laughing
  • fn34440
    fn34440 9 July 2020 14: 45 New
    -1
    Unfortunately, the unbroken chain: “FREEDOM to steal government funds (financial, natural wealth, real estate, cash kickbacks, etc.) is BETTER THAN FREEDOM to steal.” - No one can be interrupted in the foreseeable future.
    It is cast in granite.
  • Pavel Amarok
    Pavel Amarok 9 July 2020 14: 47 New
    +1
    The new Russian dictator will in no way be an intercessor or defender of the people. In extreme cases, at the expense of oil money, periodic payments of some one-time allowances will be carried out for populist purposes, and that’s all. But such a “strong leader” will ruthlessly suppress any attempts at dissatisfaction not only with state policy, but also with the same actions of corporations.

    That is the essence of the fact that it is precisely the “people” that is needed, and not from the oligarchy like them.
    1. tatra
      tatra 9 July 2020 15: 23 New
      +1
      While Stalinophobes, who are always cowardly “nothing to do with”, are responsible for the capture of Russia, and for what they have done with Russia and the Russian / Russian people, they own Russia, it will degrade, become impoverished, die out, and Stalinophobes will be enriched at the expense of Russia and its people, and through their paid propagandists they will call us, the patriots of Russia, "liberals and agents of the State Department."
      1. Pavel Amarok
        Pavel Amarok 9 July 2020 15: 29 New
        0
        They can call what they want. I care about them, for example, like earthworms.
        In my absence, they can even beat me (p.)
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 9 July 2020 14: 50 New
    +2
    What would the "New Stalin" - need a unifying IDEA for the whole country - that three quarters of the country would believe in it - and that everyone, in a single impulse, would begin to put into practice the ideas of the "helmsman" good

    In the meantime, the Power in itself - and the people in itself ... While the Power is fattening ... and the people are impoverished ... you can forget about the "New Stalin" hi
  • akunin
    akunin 9 July 2020 15: 29 New
    -2
    The great misfortune of our hardworking and decent ordinary people is that they are still, nostalgic for the Soviet era, trying to identify their own interests and those of the ruling elite, and this is far from the same in the current situation.
    subscribe to every word.
    No one will give us deliverance: Neither god, nor king, nor hero. We will achieve liberation with our own hand. To overthrow oppression with a skillful hand, Win back your good, Swell, forge, and forge boldly, While the iron is hot!
    (eugene potier).
  • alone
    alone 9 July 2020 15: 31 New
    +1
    A certain part of the population votes for V.V. Putin only because they do not see another alternative. If they cannot find a replacement for Putin, where do you all find Stalin?
  • KSVK
    KSVK 9 July 2020 15: 33 New
    +1
    And I put a plus sign for the article.
    The author is right, it’s hard without ideology.
    That ersatz, which if there are places, nothing.
    And the leaders mentioned earlier were also “ideological”.
    You just have to dig into the story.
    But for some reason, no one voiced the question of ANOTHER economic formation.
    I would listen. You look and ideology would "catch up." To the formation then. smile
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 July 2020 15: 49 New
      0
      The author is right, it’s hard without ideology.
      .... How not? ... Go into business .... both ours and yours ... Each for himself ... and so on.
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 9 July 2020 15: 33 New
    -1
    A very good article. Thank.
  • depressant
    depressant 9 July 2020 15: 36 New
    +2
    I believe the article is in the context of the election of the president’s cousin, Roman Putin, as the chairman and leader of the People Against Corruption party. Brutal-looking man. FSB, entrepreneurship, shareholder in four banks. Burned through, scanned by the winds of the era. But people do not follow the news. By the elections to the State Duma-will be untwisted. To the presidential election - "Putin has gone, long live Putin who has come!"
    1. RitaNik
      RitaNik 9 July 2020 17: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: depressant
      I believe the article is in the context of the election of the president’s cousin, Roman Putin, as the chairman and leader of the People Against Corruption party. Brutal-looking man. FSB, entrepreneurship, shareholder in four banks. Burned through, scanned by the winds of the era. But people do not follow the news. By the elections to the State Duma-will be untwisted. To the presidential election - "Putin has gone, long live Putin who has come!"


      I immediately recalled the statement of Volodin:
      "After Putin will be Putin."
      1. depressant
        depressant 9 July 2020 19: 10 New
        0
        Looks like he knew what he was saying)) Everything is captured. They gave the guy life experience. The bad has not yet been seen. Like Aksenov’s in “Overstocked Bochkotar” - Gleb Shustikov’s dream. If memory serves: “And he saw his characteristic. And she walked in the middle of the field and screamed in a terrible voice:“ In everyday life he’s moral, he is principled with his workmates, he’s thoroughly fun with public good! ” ))))
        1. RitaNik
          RitaNik 9 July 2020 19: 56 New
          0
          It seems that Lyudmila Yakovlevna. Gradually preparing society for the adoption of what previously seemed impossible. Although in the light of recent events comes awareness - everything is possible.
          1. depressant
            depressant 9 July 2020 20: 12 New
            +1
            Friends did not live up to expectations, let's see whether relatives will live up to it)) After all, there are daughters there. One is already on the budget of 110 billion rubles from Moscow State University, the second is on the budget of 40 billion. Ladies are serious, and not one nephew, and there is a stern uncle. The question needs to be carefully considered))) And we are all, "Putin is not Stalin, not Stalin!" Wrong look))
            1. RitaNik
              RitaNik 9 July 2020 21: 14 New
              0
              Quote: depressant
              After all, there are daughters there.

              These two women?)))
              Quote: depressant
              Friends did not live up to expectations, let's see whether relatives will live up to it))

              Let's wait until the intrigue opens.)
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 July 2020 15: 45 New
    0
    Like, we are not intrusively continuing to discuss amendments to the constitution, with regards to the president? laughing
  • cniza
    cniza 9 July 2020 15: 48 New
    +3
    A strong leader is needed, but not a dictator, and there cannot be a second Stalin, because there cannot be ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 July 2020 16: 20 New
      0
      According to the amendments, it’s much stronger ... laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 9 July 2020 16: 55 New
        +2
        Some and with such amendments will not help.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 July 2020 16: 01 New
    +2
    A strange question, a strong leader is always needed. But not only strong, but also responsible and honest
    1. vprnik
      vprnik 9 July 2020 20: 49 New
      -1
      An honest leader is from the realm of fantasy, any leader is forced to seek a balance between power groups (those on whom something depends). Little depends on the people. In addition, everyone has their own truth. And the oligarch, and the worker, and the one who does not want to work at all. In our case, we can only talk about a fair tax system, which must constantly be improved.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 9 July 2020 16: 06 New
    +9
    Something recently, there are many articles on the VO where they are trying to compare Putin with Stalin, they are pulled by the ears like a Donkey, why compare and contrast the incomparable. In other words, Putin is not suitable for Stalin in podmetki.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +6
    Does Russia need a “new Stalin"

    Russia needs the new Stalin as never before. Only we must not forget that Stalin was the leader of the workers 'and peasants' state. In the economic formation that the EBN team and its successors erected, the new authoritarian regime may turn out to be the grave digger of Russian statehood.
    No need to list the “merit” of the presidents starting with EBN. All their positive effect pales with catastrophe in the demographic situation of Russia. Will a new Stalin be able to appear in Russia as a result of the elections? Not. A radical restructuring of the economy, a change of leverage over the “Russian oligarchy” will not leave such a leader any chance of existence.
    Maybe someone knows cases of bloodless revolutions, but I do not know such.
    Can today's power lead Russia along the Stalin path? Not.
    Pounding water in a mortar makes no sense. You should not wait for Putin’s “ingenious insight” when he will one day realize that the country is not developing ...
    I watched three films: “What are the men talking about 2010”, “What else are the men talking about 2011 and 2018”. funny company dialogues and very philosophical fabrications prompted me only one question: “What feelings overwhelmed the boy Vova from Soviet reality?” What did he feel when watching the movie "Chapaev"? How, while living in Leningrad — the cradle of the revolution — (a city of a special supply category) could he hate free education, medicine, free housing, preferring “grandmothers” to all this?
    I wonder if Vova listened to a song in his childhood (and what kind of songs did he like at all):
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 July 2020 16: 29 New
      +3
      Passions, passions of various ranks,
      Of various stripes and scales of different
      Own our mortal soul.
      But the sum of all of them is less than that one.
      Have super passion
      Have super passion
      Have super passion
      It is called power.
      Ruddy, wrinkled face,
      In the hands of knitting, Bukley with gray hair.
      Flirty grandmother politics
      More desirable to many young ladies.
      We are vain and ghost power is sweet
      And tearing into the judges special regarding bribes,
      The sheriffs are the ones who are quick to kill,
      And in congressmen - a retired actor
      Have super passion
      Have super passion
      Have super passion
      It is called power.
      Fuck the babies in front of the lens
      Talk about difficult childhood happily
      With three boxes of Navri about heaven on earth
      And the elected position is yours
      Have super passion
      Have super passion
      There is super power
      It is called power.
    2. Van 16
      Van 16 9 July 2020 16: 51 New
      +2
      "a childhood song"
      Thank you for remembering. Wonderful song, wonderful cartoon.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 9 July 2020 16: 25 New
    -21
    Stalin is a weak leader. Even worse, for 30 years there have been no changes in the country. Permanent hunger, lack of social programs, purchased machines and several power plants that were written off in the USA, that’s all for all his rule. Germany in several years built an army and industry, and this under Hitler. Mediocre Stalin, and many people with him died in prisons and because of the collapse of the army.
    1. Thompson
      Thompson 9 July 2020 21: 30 New
      +1
      Obviously this is from the new Ukrainian history. Nowhere else like that, even our liberals nervously smoke aside
  • Region68
    Region68 9 July 2020 16: 28 New
    -7
    First, everyone should ask themselves whether he needs to go to Kolyma for 10 years to cut down the forest .. Or to work for workdays on a collective farm and eat a quinoa .. Or get into the environment and drive some Smolensk region into the forests ..
    And think hard about it ...
    1. demo
      demo 9 July 2020 17: 17 New
      -6
      Half of those who advocate the return of Stalin with all his excesses today in the VO think to sit out on their couch, in case of such a phenomenon, to the people.
      They believe that there is no forest left in Kolyma.

      Stalin is in the minds of many, and in mine, however, is primarily the head of the welfare state.
      Not socialist, but social.
      There was equality of the poor.
      The needs of the people were met, but exactly to the extent that allowed a person to work with maximum efficiency for the benefit of the people and the homeland.
      Cinema at the club, once a week, once a year a trip to the city to the fair, once every five years the family got into the circus.
      Somewhere like that.
      Draftees at the age of 18 saw a steam locomotive for the first time.
      The country built, plowed, gave birth, raised and was not distracted by anything else.
      Today's 18-year-olds just by the prospect of such a life can be killed right away and on the spot.
      So we neither need Stalin nor Stalin we need.
      1. Thompson
        Thompson 9 July 2020 21: 27 New
        -1
        In Kolyma a forest fell like you. Other countries have been raised by working in factories, plants and fields.
        1. demo
          demo 9 July 2020 21: 36 New
          0
          The forest in Kolyma was not felled.
          Gold was mined there.
          People like me built oil and gas production in Novy Urengoy and on the Yamal Peninsula. In the 80s of the last millennium.
          As a result, chronic abscesses on the tonsils. Interception of breath. Up to asphyxiation.
          He built schools and kindergartens.
          Residential high-rise buildings and cottages.

          So, buddy, beware of drawing conclusions.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 9 July 2020 16: 40 New
    +1
    Just as needed. And not only Russia.
  • iouris
    iouris 9 July 2020 16: 46 New
    +2
    How can one be a "weak (weak) leader"? Essentially: when we reach such a bottom that they don’t knock from the bottom, then you will be a leader.
  • flicker
    flicker 9 July 2020 16: 53 New
    0
    Stalin was the leader
    Those. Stalin is the leader. However below
    In modern conditions, a strong leader

    All the same, “leader” and “leader” imply different styles of governing the country.
    That means comparing the leader and leader is no longer correct.
    ---
    Well, then, “Ostap suffered”:
    In modern conditions, a strong leader will in no way be equal and identical with Stalin
    Still: Stalin is a leader, not a leader - and these are (once again) different management styles.
    Those. even formally, the leader and leader are not identical, not to mention the personality factor, although it is precisely due to personal qualities that they become “leaders”.

    That is, it will be a “strong leader” of the oligarchy, which will use its power potential, first of all, to further strengthen the financial and economic power of oligarchs and corporations
    The oligarchy in general cannot have a leader. There is an animal grip, there is rather a “leader”, and even then it is doubtful that the competition is too great.
    The oligarchy will have not a "leader", but a "protege."
    The new Russian dictator will in no way be an intercessor or defender of the people

    Well, they started with the “leader”, switched to the “leader”, and now the “dictator”.
    laughing Great juggling. good
    Identifying a leader and a dictator ... this is certainly strong! The dictator will never be a leader.
    ---
    Dreaming of a “new Stalin”, they don’t understand that in reality this “Stalin” will turn out to be just Pinochet or Somosa
    Stalin (like any person is unique and will not repeat), but because there will be no new Stalin - this is first.
    ---
    And secondly, Stalin is not a Golem, this is not a function, this is a PERSONALITY fantastically heated by the desire to make the world a little more just, at least in a single country. To do, first of all, for the people, especially since he himself was from this very people.
    And if for the sake of this justice, it was necessary to make hard decisions, then he took them. It was for the sake of justice (the norms of which were enshrined in the Constitution) that same decisions were made, and not because he wanted to command or dictate.
    ---

    Another thing, if we talk about a strong leader, subject to changes in the economic policy of the state, the development of a new political strategy, and reorientation to social values. In this case, yes, a strong leader will be necessary to implement all these changes and protect them from the inevitable resistance of both the West and our home-grown oligarchs
    But it’s hard to disagree with this, especially as a LEADER can only become if you pursue a policy in the interests of most of the people.
    Otherwise, the leader simply does not become.
    1. demo
      demo 9 July 2020 21: 17 New
      +2
      Here you cheat !!!!!
      Leader - the person in front of everyone.
      These "all" may not have anything to do with the leader. A leader is a goal to strive for.
      A leader is an individual.

      A leader is a person uniting a community on the basis of his personal or social position.
      That is, the leader can be the selected (recognized) leader or heir to the previous leader.

      A dictator is a person who exercises control on the basis of his own conclusions, without relying on public opinion, traditions, customs and rules.
      What follows is absolutism - the complete suppression of public opinion in order to triumph the will of the absolute.

      Three different stages of social relations.
      And management is peculiar only to the second and third stages.
      In the first stage, a leader can remain a leader, even if there is a leader.

      The Cossacks had different management of smokers and the army for different situations.
      For military operations one thing, for a peaceful life another.
      Smoked ataman - usually for a peaceful life. Troop chieftain for war.

      The example is approximate, but gives an understanding of the essence.
      1. flicker
        flicker 9 July 2020 23: 07 New
        +2
        Russian is a very rich and capacious language. He has a leader, a leader, and a dictator - all of them (and not only them) are applicable to the head of state, and therefore often look synonymous. But each of them has its own nuance, this nuance is often found in management style.
        ---
        Leader - the person in front
        Those. serving as a guide, they are equated with him, they follow him.
        Accordingly, the leader is one who sets the course by example, he is a pioneer, he is the first to overcome obstacles, etc.
        Leadership implies the presence of a number of qualities from the personality of a leader.
        But the people may not follow the leader, for example, the people need to go the other way, in this case the leader loses his leadership function, despite his leadership qualities. It is necessary to meet the needs of most of the people.
        The leader does not so much order as leads.

        So, the head (of the country) can become a leader if it is a guide, but he can only become a guide if the people are with him along the way.
        ---
        Leader.
        The most famous concept is the leader of the tribe.

        This is an indisputable authority (by the way, it is very difficult to earn it), which is trusted by absolutely everyone, any indication of it is immediately carried out. He does not have to be a leader, go first, prove his case, he is wise and strict, he is able to anticipate events and thereby save his people.
        And therefore it is a SUPERmanagement (management: team - action), unless of course it is really wise and competent.
        ---
        Dictator.
        A distinctive feature is the indestructible desire to DIGIT your will, even if this will is destructive. His leadership style: rigorous implementation of his orders under penalty of punishment. He does not give a damn about others, and those around him recall this, and therefore the fate of dictators is very deplorable.
        ---
        Well, somewhere like that.
        And then already tired of poking a finger at one letter in a few seconds.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 9 July 2020 16: 56 New
    +2
    And Ilya, and almost all commentators are both right and wrong.
    Does Russia need a strong leader? Definitely needed.
    Will he look like Stalin? Of course not. And not only because now the system is different, but the socialist system is not planned in the near future due to the small number and weaknesses of its supporters (the “Comments” section of VO does not count). It’s just that Stalin is UNIQUE and it is unlikely that such a person will ever be in history: this requires the same conditions and the same time, which, as you know, are not repeated. Ilya, of course, pretty turned down about Pinochet and Somos. A new strong Russian leader-patriot, who cares about the people as well as the leader of a socialist state, is also possible under the current system (history knows similar examples; Putin MUST introduce him, this is his DUTY). Although, of course, the most SUCH leader is possible under a socialist system ...
    And two words about Stalin. Joseph Vissarionovich was a man. And therefore, being at the highest post of the head of state and being one of the leaders of the world, he still made mistakes. But if, as on the scales of Osiris, to weigh his mistakes and achievements, then the latter will surely outweigh. Therefore, he entered Russian and world history as a unique, talented and successful statesman. That all of his ill-wishers (Western and local) are still trying to dispute unsuccessfully. As Yura Vizbor sang: "... trying to bite the giant's feet."
  • mag nit
    mag nit 9 July 2020 16: 57 New
    +1
    But "Moth" does not fit this role.
    1. tatra
      tatra 9 July 2020 17: 55 New
      +1
      Under "Moth" all Stalinophobes "and now it’s better than in the USSR" NOT because they helped them do something smart, talented, useful for their country and people, but only because, as they boast, thanks to him they A lot of things were LIVED at the expense of other people's labor, at the expense of their country and people, they were exported from Russia, gluttoned with fakes for Soviet products, sent around the world, got freedom of irresponsibility and impunity.
  • demo
    demo 9 July 2020 17: 08 New
    +2
    Another thing, if we talk about a strong leader, subject to changes in the economic policy of the state, the development of a new political strategy, and reorientation to social values.

    The oligarchy will not voluntarily give up the “conquest” of Yeltsin-Putin.
    You can only tear it with meat.
    You can put in excess of a cruel tyrant, but in compliance with the rule of law nothing will happen.
    And in the governments under Putin sat and sit very competent economists. Only their giftedness is not aimed at making Russian citizens better off, but at milking this cow, our country, under the guise of legality.

    In the conditions in which the country finds itself, in order to avoid bloodshed, it is first necessary to have the same equal party as EP. Then win the majority in both houses. Then think about changing the social paradigm.
    And it is not a fact that in the process of moving towards the goal, the authorities and the oligarchy will not take counter-steps.
    There is a way faster. But it is even more colorful.

    The role of personality in history is well illuminated by Ulyanov.
    Only many, for some reason, pay attention to the personality, but do not pay attention to history, or rather time in history.
    1. depressant
      depressant 9 July 2020 20: 26 New
      -1
      demo, about two strong opposing political parties I fully support you. The only way.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 9 July 2020 17: 17 New
    -9
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    And Ilya, and almost all commentators are both right and wrong.
    Does Russia need a strong leader? Definitely needed.
    Will he look like Stalin? Of course not. And not only because now the system is different, but the socialist system is not planned in the near future due to the small number and weaknesses of its supporters (the “Comments” section of VO does not count). It’s just that Stalin is UNIQUE and it is unlikely that such a person will ever be in history: this requires the same conditions and the same time, which, as you know, are not repeated. Ilya, of course, pretty turned down about Pinochet and Somos. A new strong Russian leader-patriot, who cares about the people as well as the leader of a socialist state, is also possible under the current system (history knows similar examples; Putin MUST introduce him, this is his DUTY). Although, of course, the most SUCH leader is possible under a socialist system ...
    And two words about Stalin. Joseph Vissarionovich was a man. And therefore, being at the highest post of the head of state and being one of the leaders of the world, he still made mistakes. But if, as on the scales of Osiris, to weigh his mistakes and achievements, then the latter will surely outweigh. Therefore, he entered Russian and world history as a unique, talented and successful statesman. That all of his ill-wishers (Western and local) are still trying to dispute unsuccessfully. As Yura Vizbor sang: "... trying to bite the giant's feet."
    Under Stalin there was no social policy, it was antisocial. Pensions were not paid, benefits all the more. The Russian people spread rot, like some other peoples. Only Caucasian lived for their pleasure. During the war, the whole country went hungry, gathered to the front, and in the Caucasus they ate kebabs. And who defended the oil tank?
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 9 July 2020 17: 56 New
      +4
      Local bite? Or foreign? laughing
    2. Gennady Bogdanovich
      Gennady Bogdanovich 10 July 2020 09: 09 New
      0
      Quote: imobile2008
      and in the Caucasus kebabs

      In the 80s, I worked in commissioning and traveled all over the country. What struck me. Food problems were everywhere. But in the BSSR in the villages houses are neat, renovated, homestead farming, roads are in fair condition. Arriving in the central regions of the RSFSR, the houses are falling apart, supported by a log so that they do not collapse, there are no roads, there are impassable directions after the rain. Doge for tanks. Homestead households have 1 out of 10. Bad food - I went to Moscow to bring a bag of cooked sausage and eat a green sausage for a month. And all unanimously shout "The state is obligated ...."
      Today, I am amazed by reports on Russian TV. People live in emergency houses for 20 years, go to authorities, complain, but they themselves do not want to take over and make repairs in their house. Everyone has some kind of obsession: “Here comes a good mayor, governor, the president will give a command and everything will fall to me right away and for free. There is no idea that you need to build your life with your own hands and every day.
    3. Gennady Bogdanovich
      Gennady Bogdanovich 10 July 2020 09: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: imobile2008
      During the war, the whole country went hungry, gathered to the front, and in the Caucasus they ate kebabs

      . Look what rubbish today has made its way into the leaders of the regions-bandits from the 90s, They steal everything and everything. Governors, mayors, officials are regularly planted (they treat a toe when the whole body is sick, and especially the head).
      The revolution is conceived by romantics, made by fools. The results of the revolution are scum.
      Do you think 30-40 was different? Fools died in civilian and purge. All the scum (not all) that made it most important to curry favor even at the cost of the famine of the population made its way to the local authorities. They themselves did not starve or live in poverty.
      In the Caucasus, clan-tribal relations are strong, therefore officials since in Russia did not commit atrocities.
      What kind of people are such and bosses.
      People go to the Maidan to get visa-free and get out of Ukraine. And the bosses also dream of stealing and dumping more.
      Perhaps something is wrong with the Russian mentality? He became a boss and thinks not about how it’s better to make people's lives, but about how to squeeze out people harder to squeeze, a plan to fulfill and overfulfill, cover a clearing for a superior, a bathhouse, girls, fishing, hunting, organize
      Despite all the revolutions in Russia, one and the same system of power is obtained: "Slaves (people) - the manager of the estate (local authority) - the lord (governors) - the boyars (ministries) - the tsar (president)"
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 July 2020 17: 35 New
    -1
    No, Russia doesn’t need a new Stalin - but a monitoring system for all financial transactions with a strict audit based on AI of both government spending and revenues and private block chain systems and the same system for implementing local government programs that will completely eliminate theft, fraud and corruption are needed as well as a failure to meet the deadlines for the implementation of national projects.
    1. Alf
      Alf 9 July 2020 20: 46 New
      -1
      Quote: Vadim237
      and we need a control system for all financial transactions with strict audit based on AI

      And who will create it? And what prevented her from being created in 20 years? Lack of powerful computers? Or the unwillingness of someone upstairs?
      Quote: Vadim237
      completely eliminate theft fraud and corruption, as well as a failure to meet the deadlines for the implementation of national projects.

      Bees versus honey?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 July 2020 22: 41 New
        +2
        It’s difficult to create such a system now, but the same Blockchain is already appearing, the neural networks and the digital economy program may in 10 years create the first working AI based on quantum or photon computers in both directions and then such a system will work at the state level throughout the country - and 20 years ago, the lack of money prevented this from happening and the hollow starlet in the country in all spheres, the main question at that time was “How to survive”, and then there was no talk of any development.
        1. Alf
          Alf 10 July 2020 20: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          and 20 years ago the lack of money prevented this from happening and the hollow starlet in the country in all areas, the main question then was "How to survive"

          But what about the "fat 2010s" with oil for 117 bucks?
          But what about the money now, if the tops are constantly repeating the crisis, sanctions, do we need to cut sturgeon? The ends do not converge ..
  • KSVK
    KSVK 9 July 2020 18: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    Go into business ....


    I'm just getting out of it. For ... tired of playing this gamble with the state. You lose anyway.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 July 2020 18: 21 New
      +1
      You lose anyway.
      .
      "- I found the frayer to play with you. You have nine aces in the deck!" (C) smile
    2. Alf
      Alf 9 July 2020 20: 44 New
      0
      Quote: KSVK
      Quote: parusnik
      Go into business ....


      I'm just getting out of it. For ... tired of playing this gamble with the state. You lose anyway.

      “You're smart, I’d open a joint venture.
      Uh, our state has a whole map, anyway you’ll find yourself in d
      The film Genius with Abdulov, a film from the mid-80s, the director looked into the water.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 9 July 2020 18: 23 New
    0
    Lee Kuan Yu Prime Minister of Singapore
  • Gato
    Gato 9 July 2020 18: 55 New
    +1
    And I agree with the author: in a bourgeois country, the emergence of a strong leader will lead, at best, to neo-feudalism, but, most likely, simply to fascism (we read classics).
    And if you return to the socialist path, then first you need Lenin, and then Stalin. Everyone understands this, but they think that there may be a capitalist paradise in which everyone without exception will become successful uh ... businessmen fellow
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 9 July 2020 19: 00 New
    -3
    for a transitional period, 4-6 years, is needed. And you need to strive for democracy, as a more progressive form of government.
    1. demo
      demo 10 July 2020 07: 04 New
      0
      Democracy is a form of democracy.
      The form of government is presidential or prime ministerial.
      Choosing the head of state in a democratic way, we give him the right, on our behalf, to form a government, to lead the state.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 9 July 2020 19: 12 New
    +1
    If we discard ideological slogans, then from the point of view of historical experience it is a double-edged sword. Yes, he can stretch the country on himself, but after his death a tear will certainly begin.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 9 July 2020 19: 30 New
    -6
    Svarog
    Enlighten yourself .. you obviously didn’t go through history even at school, or now they don’t write about Stalin?
    https://avn-msk.livejournal.com/1986433.html
    For 30 years, Stalin turned an agrarian, impoverished, country dependent on foreign capital into a powerful military-industrial power
    This has not yet fit into the details. But in fact, Stalin destroyed the villages without making an industrial power

    The impoverished and illiterate population of Tsarist Russia has become one of the most literate and educated nations in the world.
    Just illiteracy was largely eliminated in the years 14-17. Like the electrification of the country. Until 17 years it went at a fast pace, after it stopped, then at a slow pace after 45 it began to develop
    The political and economic literacy of workers and peasants by the beginning of the 50s was not only not inferior, but also surpassed the level of education of workers and peasants of any developed country at that time. The population of the Soviet Union increased by 41 million people.
    Separate the size of the USSR and Russia. And she contracted very much. If we say that the population of Russia before 17 and China was approximately comparable, and the number of children in families, too. Now how many Chinese? How many times more, That's how much we lost!

    Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including DneproGES, Uralmash, KhTZ, GAZ, ZIS, factories in Magnitogorsk, Chelyabinsk, Norilsk, Stalingrad. At the same time, over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built.
    The largest few, I have already named that on decommissioned American equipment. How many settlements in the USSR? It turns out less than one in large cities. For 30 years is not enough?

    Already in the 1947 year, the industrial potential of the USSR was fully restored, and in the 1950 year it grew more than 2 times in relation to the pre-war 1940 year. None of the countries affected by the war by this time even reached the pre-war level, despite powerful financial injections from the United States.
    Russia was recovering most slowly after the war, partly because it was badly damaged, but where there were no Germans, development was slow.

    Prices for basic foodstuffs, during the post-war 5 years in the USSR, fell more than 2 times, while in the largest countries these prices increased, and in some even 2 more than times.
    More important than price, but the ratio of the price of the RFP. When they don’t pay, but work for workdays, what difference does it cost? After the war, my grandmother, the only one in the area, was paid 9 rubles for special services. The road to the district center was 12 rubles

    This indicates the tremendous success of a country in which only five years ago the most destructive war in the history of mankind ended and which suffered the most from this war !!

    In 1945, bourgeois experts gave an official forecast that the economy of the USSR would be able to reach the level of 1940 only by 1965 - provided that it took foreign loans. We reached this level in 1949 without any external help.
    Experts draw conclusions based on the poor performance of our economy. Poland recovered faster, suffered no less

    In 1947, the USSR, the first after the war from the states of our planet, canceled the card system. And since 1948
    What nonsense? Where was she? In the villages they starved to 56 years.
    annually - until 1954 - it reduced the prices of food and consumer goods. Child mortality in 1950 decreased by more than 1940 times compared to 2. The number of doctors increased by 1,5 times. The number of scientific institutions increased by 40%. The number of university students increased by 50%. Etc.

    The shops had an abundance of diverse industrial and food products and there was no concept of scarcity. The choice of products in grocery stores was much wider than in modern
    Shops were only in cities. In the countryside appeared only at the end of 70. People from clothes had one dress, trousers. There was no radio in the villages. Of furniture. A table and an iron bed; there were no cabinets; they were dispensed with nails in the wall. Lived in barracks
    supermarkets. Now only in Finland you can try sausage, reminiscent of the Soviet from those times. There were cans of crab in all Soviet stores. The quality and variety of consumer goods and food products, exclusively of domestic production, was incommensurably higher than modern consumer goods and food. As soon as new trends in fashion appeared, they were instantly tracked, and after a couple of months, fashionable goods appeared galore on store shelves.
    The assortment of that time was 100 products

    The wages of workers in 1953 ranged from 800 to 3000 rubles and higher. Miners and metallurgists received up to 8000 rubles. Young engineer specialists up to 1300 rubles. The secretary of the CPSU district committee received 1500 rubles, and the salaries of professors and academics were often higher than 10000 rubles.
    But workdays

    The Moskvich car cost 9000 p., White bread (1 kg.) - 3 p., Black bread (1 kg.) - 1 p., Beef meat (1 kg.) - 12.5 p., Pike perch - 8,3 , 1 p., Milk (2.2 l.) - 1 p., Potatoes (0,45 kg.) - 0,6 p., Zhiguli beer (2,9 l.) - 1 p., Chintz (6,1 m.) - 2 p. Complex lunch in the dining room was worth - 25 p. Evening in a restaurant for two, with a good dinner and a bottle of wine - XNUMX p.

    And all this abundance and a comfortable life was achieved, despite the content of 5,5 million, armed “to the teeth” with the most modern weapons, the best army in the world!
    States were not afraid to bomb our country

    Since 1946, work has been launched in the USSR: on atomic weapons and energy; on rocket technology; on automation of technological processes; to introduce the latest computer technology and electronics; on space flights; gasification of the country; on household appliances.
    You turned down about the electrician, you decided not to develop the direction

    The world's first nuclear power plant was commissioned in the USSR a year earlier than in England, and 2 a year earlier than in the United States. Only in the USSR were created nuclear icebreakers.
    Because why do they need them?

    Thus, in the USSR for one five-year period - from 1946 to 1950 - in the conditions of a tough military-political confrontation with the richest capitalist power of the world, at least three socio-economic problems were solved without any external assistance: 1) restored National economy; 2) sustained growth in living standards; 3) committed an economic breakthrough into the future.
    We lost
  • Vestovoi
    Vestovoi 9 July 2020 19: 46 New
    -4
    Stripping Russia needs Stalin! Otherwise, we will stagnate while we are being robbed ..
    Remember the year 37 and who started whining about it before the collapse of the USSR?
    But there were a huge number of saboteurs and saboteurs in the USSR .. And they showed themselves in the 41st .. And then in the late 80-90s Sabotage was creepy, in all directions .. And now it’s more cowardly, but still ..
    Such things are going on ... Traitors have become more cunning and dodgy hi
    Mother Russia is alive and resists.
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    2. iouris
      iouris 9 July 2020 20: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Vestovoi
      Traitors have become more cunning and dodgy

      As we move towards socialism, the class struggle intensifies (I. Stalin).
      1. Vestovoi
        Vestovoi 9 July 2020 20: 08 New
        -2
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Vestovoi
        Traitors have become more cunning and dodgy

        As we move towards socialism, the class struggle intensifies (I. Stalin).

        Lenin, Stalin, it would be advisable to re-examine the whole volumes .. There are a lot of interesting things and interestingly that can be compared .. Here after them, the rulers of Russia didn’t write anything (just balaboly) AT ALL !!!!
        So think "gentlemen" what and how and why ..
        1. iouris
          iouris 9 July 2020 23: 09 New
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          Quote: Vestovoi
          So think "gentlemen" what and how and why ..

          You need to think, but first you need to know. Well, the "educational system" created by Soros can handle this. British scientists have proven that 2,5% of the population thinks what they think, and 95% are more likely to shoot themselves than to think. And so everything will be fine! (Read dystopias to see how good it will be.)
          1. Vestovoi
            Vestovoi 10 July 2020 14: 29 New
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            Quote: iouris
            You need to think, but first you need to know. Well, the "educational system" created by Soros can handle this.

            So far it’s not bad at their place, but the genes and blood of our ancestors are still in our next generation. They put everything in its place! And it is not in vain that such a howl goes in the west .. The Russians are invincible in their souls and gene pool! Here is the whole clue of the "mysterious Russian soul" .. hi
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 July 2020 23: 03 New
        +4
        Unfortunately, socialism is not a panacea for poverty - just as capitalism is because the population is growing as well as the needs are growing and the resources are decreasing in the end someone will have to stay outboard so that the rest would live acceptable - there is another option to keep the population growing but this is inhumane but time will come and humanity will come to this and even relocation to other planets will not help to solve the above problem since terraforming the planets will require enormous resources and energy - the connected vessels with water will not go away from their effect since miracles do not happen.
        1. iouris
          iouris 10 July 2020 11: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          Unfortunately socialism is not a panacea for poverty

          But you did not notice that there is only socialism around (more precisely, many different socialisms), but there is no capitalism? Question: is it socialism or something else?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 July 2020 16: 59 New
            +2
            In the DPRK, Juche socialism - but the poor are fucked up and above, but at the same time it turned out to have their millionaires and billionaires. And besides this country, there is no similar socialism according to Marx in any of the 199 countries of the world, this suggests that a market economy with capitalism is more or less satisfied with most of the population. And the poor will always be - see the comment above.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 July 2020 20: 16 New
    +5
    The dictatorship of socialism and the dictatorship of capitalism are completely different things. Fascist Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy emerged from the dictatorship of capital. National Socialism had nothing to do with Soviet socialism. Raising a puppy and then killing was what our youth was built up to. Our people didn’t get so hysterical. And in Berlin, women shouted - “I want a son from the Fuhrer.” All these are the consequences of unlimited capitalism.
  • Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 9 July 2020 21: 18 New
    +2
    a question like "do the current rulers who hold power by all means want to be shot?"
  • Thompson
    Thompson 9 July 2020 21: 18 New
    +1
    The article is one-sided, narrowly focused and clearly with a certain bias
  • DPN
    DPN 9 July 2020 21: 28 New
    +1
    The wrong question is whether Russia needs socialism? this is the primary question and only in this case will an independent strong leader help. I.V. Stalin simply will not repeat. Yes, and are afraid of V.I. LENIN, and not I.V. STALIN.
  • Thompson
    Thompson 9 July 2020 21: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: demo
    There was equality of the poor.
    The needs of the people were met, but exactly to the extent that allowed a person to work with maximum efficiency for the benefit of the people and the homeland.
    Cinema at the club, once a week, once a year a trip to the city to the fair, once every five years the family got into the circus.

    Are you writing about what years and with what are you comparing? If with the current it is not even funny. but flawed. This was the norm of that time and no one had lace panties on their minds.