“Leap through the generation”: the Hungarian army replaces Soviet tanks with “Leopards”

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In Germany, the first Tanks Leopard 2A4, designed for the Hungarian armed forces. MBTs designed to replace Soviet cars are being prepared for shipment to a new duty station.

They are part of the Budapest order for new combat systems, among which are tanks, howitzers and attached German-made equipment. The total value of the contract is likely to well exceed one billion euros.

Leopard 2A4 is to be delivered by Krauss-Maffei from its production facilities in Munich. Leopards from cash reserves are being restored for the needs of the Hungarian army, which ordered 12 vehicles of this type. During the overhaul, they get a new small weapon instead of MG3 machine guns. A company of tanks is needed to prepare personnel for the operation of the new version of the Leopard 2A7 +. MBT of this type will begin to enter the Hungarian army in 2023.

A total of 44 Leopard 2A7 + (allegedly “newly manufactured”) and 24 PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzers are expected to ship.

The supply of this equipment will allow the Hungarian army to make a leap through the generation, since today it uses 30 T-72M1 tanks (which have not undergone modernization) and Soviet-designed towed D-20 howitzers

- writes the Polish edition of Defense24.

Along with these products, 36 H145M and H225M helicopters from Airbus Helicopters and the Norwegian NASAMS mobile air defense system with AMRAAM and AMRAAM-ER missiles, designed to replace the Cube air defense system, are purchased.

Hungarian ground forces, after many years of deep neglect, enter the 21st century

- concludes Defense24.

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  1. +18
    9 July 2020 08: 16
    Yes, let them change. What do we need?
    1. +14
      9 July 2020 08: 19
      Quote: alma
      Yes, let them change. What do we need?

      But how to say ... all the same "a probable partner", we must now understand what the "modernized" and renewed armed forces of Hungary are capable of doing ...
      The main thing is that the list does not include more than one American sample, which in itself is already significant ... Yeah, the Honvedians will be good at it.
      1. +8
        9 July 2020 08: 32
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: alma
        Yes, let them change. What do we need?

        But how to say ... all the same "a probable partner", we must now understand what the "modernized" and renewed armed forces of Hungary are capable of doing ...
        The main thing is that the list does not include more than one American sample, which in itself is already significant ... Yeah, the Honvedians will be good at it.

        This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here.
        1. +4
          9 July 2020 09: 00
          Quote: Aaron Zawi

          This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here.

          That's right.
          What was bought not from us is a pity. We are sorry. But from the point of view of geopolitics, it is more profitable for Hungary to choose Germany.
          1. -3
            9 July 2020 09: 14
            From the point of view of German geopolitics, no allies with border problems are needed now, and the Hungarians want Uzhgorod ...
            At the same time, trash will take 30-40 years of age ...
            1. +17
              9 July 2020 10: 20
              trash will take 30-40 years of age ...

              Yeah, especially the PzH 2000 self-propelled guns. Rubbish is such rubbish.
          2. +1
            9 July 2020 12: 10
            Quote: Shurik70
            it is more profitable for Hungary to choose Germany.

            116 years ago they chose, and 80 years ago they chose. Now again. Again to us?
          3. +2
            9 July 2020 19: 06
            Quote: Shurik70
            But from the point of view of geopolitics, it is more profitable for Hungary to choose Germany.

            I remember what my grandfather told me about the Magyars near Voronezh.
        2. +5
          9 July 2020 09: 03
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here

          As part of NATO forces ... or by itself?
          1. +2
            9 July 2020 20: 39
            Quote: apro
            As part of NATO forces ... or by itself?
            By the way, maybe by itself. Hungarians now proceed from their interests, despite the threats of the European bureaucrats and the tantrums of universal people.
        3. -1
          9 July 2020 09: 11
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here.

          Yes, no, only one car was changed to another.
        4. 0
          14 July 2020 07: 33
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: alma
          Yes, let them change. What do we need?

          But how to say ... all the same "a probable partner", we must now understand what the "modernized" and renewed armed forces of Hungary are capable of doing ...
          The main thing is that the list does not include more than one American sample, which in itself is already significant ... Yeah, the Honvedians will be good at it.

          This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here.

          Well, if in each country there is one brigade and one squadron already.
      2. +11
        9 July 2020 08: 34
        Or maybe Germany began to collect on the quiet Fourth Reich. Recently, an article here was about military reforms by the Bundeswehr. Okay joking lol Although...
        1. +8
          9 July 2020 09: 56
          Quote: alma
          Or maybe Germany began to gather on the quiet Fourth Reich

          Have you just noticed this?
        2. +1
          9 July 2020 17: 11
          Or maybe she already collected it a long time ago? Just do not advertise.
      3. +2
        9 July 2020 08: 40
        I did not know that the Hungarians still have a "legacy" in service ... But the "leopard" is a good thing, no doubt about it.
        1. 0
          9 July 2020 08: 59
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And the "leopard" is a good thing, no doubt about it.

          Specifically, 2A4 is junk from the 80s, the Turks lost two dozen such cats in Syria out of the blue, because they are out of date.
          1. +13
            9 July 2020 09: 06
            HOW they lost them ... So you can kill a company of starships ...
            1. +9
              9 July 2020 09: 38
              The bulk of the losses of Leopards 2A4 with the most severe injuries (fire in the tank, detonation of ammunition) are associated with the entry of far from the most modern guided anti-tank missiles. There is a good publication on 2A4 protection:
              https://topwar.ru/53677-ocenka-bronevoy-zaschity-tanka-leopard-2a0-a4.html
          2. +7
            9 July 2020 09: 56
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            Specifically, 2A4 is junk from the 80s,

            For training, they’ll come down ...
          3. +14
            9 July 2020 10: 22
            Well, the Hungarians are going to use them as training vehicles: "Leopard 2A4 should be supplied by Krauss-Maffei from its production facilities in Munich ... A company of tanks is needed to prepare personnel for operation of the new version of the Leopard 2A7 +"
        2. +5
          9 July 2020 11: 12
          Burn, like all boxes with a gun.
      4. +3
        9 July 2020 09: 09
        Quote: svp67
        The main thing is that the list does not contain more than one American model, which is already significant in itself ..

        Now it is dangerous for Europeans to make rash decisions towards the United States, after all, the European Union. So you need to blow one pipe.
      5. +2
        9 July 2020 09: 11
        Quote: svp67
        How can I say ... still "probable partner"

        Most likely, "we will threaten the resettlement Ukraine"is first of all, but Russia what ... she is far away, and more interesting as a trading partner.
        Indeed, in all terms of world and European politics, the Hungarians show the least interest in the prospect of meeting with Russia on the battlefield Yes ...

        Somehow they more mature in understanding the prospects of such a meeting, than, for example, the same "young NATO member" - Poland.
        1. +4
          9 July 2020 09: 59
          Quote: Insurgent
          They are somehow more mature in understanding the prospects for such a meeting than, for example, the same "young NATO member" - Poland.

          Each sets himself different geopolitical goals, something I haven't heard from the Hungarians about building a state from "sea to sea" and the desire to become "managers" in Russia ...
          1. +5
            9 July 2020 10: 03
            Quote: svp67

            Each sets himself different geopolitical goals, something I haven't heard from the Hungarians about building a state from "sea to sea" and the desire to become "managers" in Russia ...

            About that and speech Yes
      6. 0
        9 July 2020 17: 56
        We are also changing. Everything is relative. hi
    2. 0
      9 July 2020 08: 29
      Hungarian army ... Already funny laughing But I would advise Ukrainians to take a closer look at this movement - the Transcarpathian boiler is quite real!
      1. +2
        9 July 2020 09: 13
        Quote: Finches
        But I would advise Ukrainians to take a closer look at this movement - the Transcarpathian boiler is quite real!

        I thought so too.
      2. +5
        9 July 2020 10: 54
        "The Hungarian army ... It's already funny" ///
        ---
        Once upon a time, it was the strongest army in Europe. Batu Khan defeated the Hungarians with great difficulty and failed to join Hungary to the Horde.
        1. -1
          9 July 2020 11: 29
          And during the Great Patriotic War, the unwritten rule "Do not take Magyar prisoner!" was one of the most important for the soldiers of the Voronezh Front .... And they were not taken! And where Batu didn't add them there - I don't know! But the Russian wars did it
          "And on his chest shone
          Medal for the city of Budapest ... "

          Then they lay under Hitler, and now they lie under Washington, and their capital, today is the capital of the world since then - and that's ridiculous to me! laughing
          1. +9
            9 July 2020 12: 52
            By the way, the Hungarians are not very in touch with the European Union (although they are members of it) and with Washington. They are on their own. And with Putin are great friends, and with trump. They are nationalists fanatical about their independence.
            And their capital, Budapest, is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. The city is hospitable and cozy.
            1. -4
              9 July 2020 14: 11
              Love you advocate! laughing
    3. -4
      9 July 2020 08: 36
      A former adversary in the Second World War, a former ally of the Warsaw Pact, who, in the first case, crossed over to the former most likely enemy. Upgrades the army.
      1. 0
        9 July 2020 09: 18
        And all because we have in our head sovetskie attitudes about "bratsk peoples". s and the Saxons have long known and know how to deal with such "brothers". Beat and not feed.
    4. 0
      9 July 2020 11: 16
      And to us that it would be better if they bought a T72 B3 or T90 M
      1. sav
        +12
        9 July 2020 11: 35
        Quote: Alexey G
        it would be better if they bought a T72 B3 or T90 M

        That is unlikely. They get rid of ours. And Germany has leverage over them.
        1. -4
          9 July 2020 11: 43
          It’s bad that the Germans have and we don’t have ... miscalculations of command!
          1. sav
            +14
            9 July 2020 11: 45
            Rather, the delivery of positions in due time.
            1. -1
              9 July 2020 11: 47
              Duck it’s time to turn back, stop showing on Eltsin, so it’s possible for Ivan the Terrible to cover his stupidity!
              1. sav
                +12
                9 July 2020 11: 53
                So who is against it? But now we have the State Council, let them do it.
                1. -1
                  9 July 2020 11: 56
                  At least they put a tender on our T90M’s tender or whatever it is! He could have played this Leo at the training ground! For honestly!
                  1. sav
                    +7
                    9 July 2020 11: 59
                    I agree, it is also necessary to promote our equipment for export.
        2. -3
          9 July 2020 11: 45
          Ours and probably cheaper and much less needed!
  2. -2
    9 July 2020 08: 19
    With 404 plan to fight.
    There is something to share.
    It’s far to go to Russia ...
    1. -1
      9 July 2020 09: 14
      Quote: Victor_B
      With 404 plan to fight.
      There is something to share.

      They want to return theirs. On someone else's, they do not bury.
      1. +1
        9 July 2020 10: 10
        There, partly on the same territory, and Slovakia as the heir to Czechoslovakia can claim. Although the Hungarians can lay claim to part of the South Slovak lands.
        1. +1
          9 July 2020 10: 29
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Although the Hungarians can lay claim to part of the South Slovak lands.

          Part of Transcarpathia and part of Vojvodina belonged to the Hungarians. So there is a precedent, especially in the light of modern events in Ukraine.
          1. 0
            9 July 2020 11: 30
            And in the 20-30s. Transcarpathia was part of Czechoslovakia.
  3. +3
    9 July 2020 08: 25
    "big boys" new "toys" .... so that's okay. However, they will not be allowed to play out anyway ...
    1. -1
      9 July 2020 09: 18
      Toys have been darned more than once ... laughing
      1. +1
        9 July 2020 10: 10
        You will recall how many freeloaders fresh painting introduced into ecstasy, but then .....
        1. -1
          9 July 2020 10: 24
          It’s good for us: mastering new technology is not a quick process, all the more so in the socialist camp countries they don’t give either time, diesel fuel, or the rest of the resource.
          About the fresh painting - We sailed, we know: now we are collecting MiG-29 from all the dumps for the Indians :: they are waiting, they are dancing, but the Su-35 is expensive for them - here give them a single-engine fighter - wherever you like, but give - and after all, they will agree to the old Fe-16s (40 years to the eroplan!)
          1. +2
            9 July 2020 10: 36
            Quote: hydrox
            Now we collect MiG-29 from all dumps from the availability for Indians:


            Most likely, this is not about the old Soviet MiGs from sludge at all - these were given to the Serbs and Syrians. This is most likely about the former Algerian MiG-29s (14 IAP Kursk) put into reserve 1-2 years ago.
          2. +1
            9 July 2020 10: 46
            F 16 a successful aircraft, a workhorse.
            A moment with a thorough repair, this is normal, just at the requested price. The glider lives longer than much else, if you have not been in extreme situations .... replace engines, other consumables. It will work fine.
          3. 0
            9 July 2020 10: 53
            So what? If new planes enter our system, and the old ones go to the reserve, which, perhaps, is not particularly combat-ready, is it possible to sell some of it to the Indians.
            Syria has shown that new models of weapons and equipment are deciding, and old Syrian ones are falling from ancient stingers.
  4. -9
    9 July 2020 08: 25
    History is cyclical. Hungary was an ally. Hitler. (really worthless)
    1. +8
      9 July 2020 08: 37
      Quote: Welldone
      History is cyclical. Hungary was an ally. Hitler. (really worthless)

      Nah ... my grandfather said that the Hungarians were the most combat-ready of the Axis countries.
      1. +2
        9 July 2020 08: 43
        I don’t know about combat readiness, but the Hungarians behaved on our territory so that they stopped taking them at once.
        1. -1
          9 July 2020 10: 11
          Where, then, were several hundred thousand captured?
        2. +3
          9 July 2020 10: 21
          but the Hungarians behaved on our territory in such a way that they stopped taking them at once.

          It was so. In the battles near Voronezh Hungarians (Magyars) in the occupied territories were atrocious. Therefore, our soldiers stopped capturing them.
    2. -6
      9 July 2020 08: 42
      This is what you got excited about writing! Probably confused with Romanians.
      1. 0
        9 July 2020 10: 12
        Both Romanians and Hungarians were captured.
    3. +5
      9 July 2020 09: 19
      Quote: Welldone
      History is cyclical. Hungary was an ally. Hitler. (really worthless)

      The most prominent, the Hungarians and in the WWI were at the height of the Austro-Hungarian army, and during WWII were the most combat-ready allies of the Third Reich.
      1. +2
        9 July 2020 10: 15
        I recall Hasek and his description of the contemptuous gestures of the Hungarians (raised hands) in relation to Czech soldiers of the Austro-Hungarian army going to the front.)
      2. 0
        9 July 2020 10: 17
        Judging by the recollections of some of our military leaders, the Romanian soldiers also fought well. But it’s the soldiers. The officers were poorly trained.
  5. -1
    9 July 2020 08: 28
    They want to remember the 44-45 years of the last century, but for God's sake, only then there will be nowhere to complain.
  6. +1
    9 July 2020 08: 29
    Leap Through a Generation
    Well, in general, the t-72 and Leoparad are 2 tanks of the same generation, so there is no jump, it is especially funny that one old stuff is replaced by another.
    1. 0
      9 July 2020 09: 26
      Quote: CruorVult
      it is especially funny that one junk is replaced by another.

      Yes, they simply will not let the European Union buy Russian tanks. Do not give spending European money.
    2. +7
      9 July 2020 10: 25
      Modification Leopard 2A7 + introduced in 2010. There are two jumps in comparison with the unmoderned Soviet T-72. Especially in terms of the SLA, communications and ammunition.
  7. +1
    9 July 2020 08: 32
    “Leap through the generation”: the Hungarian army replaces Soviet tanks with “Leopards”
    Generations .... a step into the future. feel right in Years of production since 1979
    T-72M1 (not upgraded)
    modernization would cost less blood.
    T-72 Years of production since 1973
    1. +6
      9 July 2020 08: 43
      Nimble jump from the third generation to the third.
  8. +1
    9 July 2020 08: 45
    The dance on the rake of the former members of the VD continues. You could have a look at the pshek, those of their "Leopards" are used only in parades and demonstration performances, but all the exercises - on the T-72.
  9. +2
    9 July 2020 08: 52
    I wouldn’t call it a leap into the XNUMXst century ... Leopards, although they are modern BUT according to the scheme from the last century ... in fact, like the Soviet legacy (well, they successfully modernize it around the world), which the Hungarians inherited under the Warsaw Pact ...
    Conclusion: Hungarians should not be taken prisoner ...
  10. +3
    9 July 2020 08: 53
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here

    Reinforced battalion. What's terrible there? The "Leopard" of the last modification is good, but it is not the best and even less invulnerable. The amount is scanty.
  11. +1
    9 July 2020 09: 21
    Anyone who needs to express concern is Ukraine! Clash over Ukrainian Hungarians is quite possible ..................
  12. -3
    9 July 2020 09: 33
    Preparing for the arrival of a new Napoleon / Hitler? But the Slavs were ...
    1. +2
      9 July 2020 10: 19
      Oh well, they are Ugric. Along with the hunts and Mansi.
      1. 0
        9 July 2020 10: 52
        I suspected. Then Finno-Ugric peoples. They are far from Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.
        1. +1
          9 July 2020 11: 41
          Ugra is another name for Hungarians. Ugra in the broad sense are Hungarians, Khanty, Mansi. The homeland of the Hungarians is precisely on the territory of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, from there they went to look for a new homeland and eventually found it. Along the way, they mixed a bit with the Turks. The Finnish group is actually the Finns (correctly spelled double N), Karelians, Estonians, Vepsians, Komi, Permian Komi, Udmurts, Mari, Mordvinians (Moksha, Erzya, Shoksha). Moreover, most of the Russian peoples of the Finnish group, except for the Karelians, either do not understand Finnish speech at all, or they understand very poorly. So the kinship both within the Finnish peoples and within the Ugric group is very distant. And the concept of Finno-Ugric is somewhat artificial. What do Finns and Hungarians have in common, they do not completely understand each other. The only thing that all Finno-Ugrians, including Finns, Hungarians, and our Udmurts, have a higher suicidal tendency than other nations. On the other hand, they seem to be more resistant to HIV.
          1. 0
            9 July 2020 12: 03
            What is your strong point? Kinship on the basis of suicide, the artificial nature of the concept of a people, a different language. Interesting. And what makes them considered a kindred group, on what basis? Who and how tracked the "exit from the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug" (conditionally). Genetic remains? Analysis of utensils, weapons, livestock? Are the haplogroups the same? Faith is also different, as I understand it.
            1. +1
              9 July 2020 18: 31
              Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic language family. A kind of linguistic community, several dozen common words denoting household items, food, etc.
              1. 0
                17 July 2020 08: 25
                Then we are Aryans - the inhabitants of the Russian North also have hundreds of words in common with Indians, the names of rivers, things, carved symbols on the frames and patterns on fabrics are strikingly similar and coincide in details.
  13. +1
    9 July 2020 09: 45
    Little Hungary is actively working with its diaspora in Transcarpathia. This is how Rossotrudnichestvo and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would work. By the way, Lavrov will answer for the appointment as ambassador in Kiev, a complete insignificance by the name of zurab ??
    1. 0
      9 July 2020 10: 20
      They write that with the advent of Primakov the grandson, much in the activities of Rossotrudnichestvo will change.
    2. 0
      9 July 2020 10: 40
      Something strongly I doubt that this insignificance could be a creature of Lavrov :: in another place you need to look for its roots ...
  14. +1
    9 July 2020 10: 31
    For training, they’ll quite go away. There would be sensible tankers, but there would be cars.
  15. +1
    9 July 2020 10: 34
    Hungarians will have to control the pieces falling off from Ukraine, and a little armored vehicles will not hurt them.
    A precedent cannot be ruled out when distraught raguli try to massacre residents of Transcarpathia who returned to their native harbor.
  16. +2
    9 July 2020 10: 58
    Near Uzhgorod will meet with the T-64.
  17. 0
    9 July 2020 12: 53
    A blacks where they will take as an automatic loader ??? But the Negro is not needed in the T-72, there is an automatic loader! So, in terms of combat capabilities, mobile rocking simulators acquire for Magyars! When driving along the intersection, the Leopard is practically unarmed! So much for the 21st century ...
  18. +1
    9 July 2020 13: 47
    Hungarian ground forces, after many years of deep neglect, enter the 21st century

    They crawl ... For a long time they held on to the technology of the Warsaw Pact.
  19. +1
    9 July 2020 14: 02
    And what's the point of changing one trash for another, and even at such a low price that the Germans are asking for it? In Syria, Turkish Leopard-2s rust with towers of explosive ammunition towers, burying their elite crews ... If you buy, then more decent tanks, such as the British Challenger-2, which showed better durability than the American Abrams, are not beaten anywhere else French Leclerks, or Russian T-90s who didn’t show themselves badly in battle.
  20. 0
    9 July 2020 15: 07
    So let's look at the Hungarian Leopards against the Ukrainian T-64!
  21. 0
    9 July 2020 16: 18
    Options A7 or A7V are serious opponents, but 44 tanks are one / two battalions or a tank regiment. Even for Hungary it is not enough.
  22. 0
    9 July 2020 17: 42
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    This is one mech brigade. What are the dangers here.

    Well, a dumb gold reserve - but I want everything at once!
  23. +1
    10 July 2020 09: 00
    21 century ? Charger - 20th century. Missing missiles - 20th century. As heavy as a royal tiger - 20th century! To carry it on trawls .. and the bridges of the 20th century will survive? Enough to drive him on the road, and off-road the transmission will tear. And it costs like two, or even three T-90s! In short, the Hungarians, the German in their jump, changed the shoes ...
  24. 0
    10 July 2020 14: 18
    Magyars are pushing Transcarpathia to prepare. These tanks there will meet flowers, and local Hungarians and Rusyns.

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