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The detention of journalist Ivan Safronov caused protests

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Yesterday, the Federal Security Service detained Ivan Safronov. He was once a special correspondent for the Vedomosti and Kommersant publications, and for the last two months he worked at Roskosmos as an adviser to Dmitry Rogozin, the head of this state corporation. A former journalist is suspected of collaborating with intelligence from a NATO country.


While working in the media, Safronov specialized in covering topics related to the defense industry, and also repeatedly accompanied Russian President Vladimir Putin on his trips.

The arrest caused protests. Edition RBC stated that she would monitor the progress of the investigation. They consider Safronov innocent and insist on the most transparent trial of his case.

In St. Petersburg, pickets were held in support of the journalist, in which, according to the correspondent of the publication Znak.com, representatives of a number of media participated: Echo of Moscow, Open Media, and Business FM. Representatives of the Legislative Assembly Maxim Reznik and Boris Vishnevsky also came out with posters.

The St. Petersburg police allowed the protest, provided that it ends at 22.00. And although the protesters dispersed almost an hour later, no detentions or other repression took place. In Moscow, near the FSB building in Lubyanka, police detained several picketers.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS 8 July 2020 14: 49 New
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    Pickets in support of the journalist were held in St. Petersburg; representatives of a number of media participated: Echo of Moscow, Open Media, and Business FM.

    It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 8 July 2020 14: 51 New
      -27
      Quote: APASUS
      It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow

      It’s just not clear who warmed him and gave information that turned out to be state secret .. He worked at the Rogozin’s department, the journalist warmed the journalist ..
      1. bk316
        bk316 8 July 2020 14: 54 New
        38
        In the department of Rogozin

        You certainly will not pass by Rogozin ...
        I hasten to upset you, he worked there from May and what he was obviously charged with earlier was doing what he was charged with.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 July 2020 15: 06 New
          -21
          Quote: bk316
          You certainly will not pass by Rogozin ...

          And why are you on defense .. what did he do outstanding for development? Continuous scandals around him ..
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 8 July 2020 15: 08 New
            24
            Svarog, you did more? Take out the scales, now we will measure



            1. Pereira
              Pereira 8 July 2020 16: 22 New
              +5
              Svarog is definitely not involved in theft during the construction of the cosmodrome.
              Let's measure the damage caused to the space industry by Svarog. It seems to me that this will be a very small amount.
              1. Genry
                Genry 8 July 2020 16: 40 New
                12
                Quote: Pereira
                Svarog is definitely not involved in theft during the construction of the cosmodrome.

                Did you check his criminal record?

                About Vanechka Safronova (child 30 years old):
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 8 July 2020 19: 20 New
                  -8
                  Is this a denunciation of Svarog?
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 8 July 2020 21: 25 New
                    -7
                    Quote: Pereira
                    Is this a denunciation of Svarog?

                    Are you a god and do you have information on all the people of the world?
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 9 July 2020 08: 37 New
                      +2
                      I suggest you write a statement to the prosecutor’s office on Svarog. Or do you have any personal graters with him?
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 9 July 2020 09: 32 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Pereira
                        I suggest you write a statement to the prosecutor’s office on Svarog. Or do you have any personal graters with him?

                        I did not say that I have incriminating evidence on ..., but you specifically began to elevate him to the host of saints.

                        You made graters, declaring the sanctity of another person. Moreover, the "saints" you have only liberals.
              2. Svarog
                Svarog 8 July 2020 16: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: Pereira
                It seems to me that this will be a very small amount.

                Rather, I contributed in the form of taxes .. but there is definitely no damage from me laughing Well, if only moral, for a sect that honors leaders who have no results or negative results. laughing
                1. Sergey39
                  Sergey39 8 July 2020 19: 39 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  but there’s definitely no damage from me

                  Safronov says that too.
              3. Kostyar
                Kostyar 8 July 2020 22: 23 New
                +4
                Svarog is definitely not involved in theft during the construction of the cosmodrome.
                Let's measure the damage caused to the space industry by Svarog. It seems to me that this will be a very small amount.


                Yeah, they made fun ...
                It will be infinitely small)
              4. Fitter65
                Fitter65 9 July 2020 00: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Pereira
                Let's measure the damage caused to the space industry by Svarog. It seems to me that this will be a very small amount.

                I'm afraid that we’ll leave in the minus, and not just not a big amount.
          2. bk316
            bk316 9 July 2020 13: 48 New
            +1
            And why are you on defense .. what did he do outstanding for development?

            Show me where it was I defended him.
            I am in defense of common sense.
            But you don’t understand.
            You really and common sense is not a decree if you need to pour someone over or whitewash on the contrary.


            Regarding Rogozin, I think we could have found a better manager, but the crisis in space exploration, especially manned, did not begin under Rogozin and not because of Rogozin. My father worked at the Central Design Bureau as the head of the department (unless of course you understand what I mean) and therefore I know something about this. Unfortunately, the manned space program is almost dead (because that is not developing, it is dying), I wrote a lot about it.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 9 July 2020 13: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: bk316
              Regarding Rogozin, I think we could have found a better manager, but the crisis in space exploration, especially manned, did not begin under Rogozin and not because of Rogozin. My father worked at the Central Design Bureau as the head of the department (unless of course you understand what I mean) and therefore I know something about this. Unfortunately, the manned space program is almost dead (because that is not developing, it is dying), I wrote a lot about it.

              Well, and how is your position different from mine? I’m talking about the same thing. Maybe only in a sharper manner.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 8 July 2020 15: 27 New
          11
          "Obviously did before" ... Is this when the president was spinning around? Maybe. But then the question to the special service itself, how was it allowed? But in general there are more questions than answers. And the fact that echoes, jellyfish and other scum are raging, well, how could there be no dung flies on this shit.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 8 July 2020 15: 41 New
            +6
            Quote: 210ox
            But then the question is for the special services themselves, how was it allowed?

            Apparently, they began to check in connection with the new post, nevertheless, there a security clearance is definitely required. Well, they dug up ...
            1. Rostov Papa
              Rostov Papa 8 July 2020 16: 05 New
              +6
              Apparently, they began to check in connection with the new post, nevertheless, there a security clearance is definitely required. Well, they dug up ...
              No, digging for a long time, there are already seven volumes stitched + wiretap. Today the plot was on Vesti radio.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 8 July 2020 16: 37 New
                +8
                Quote: Rostov Dad
                No, digging for a long time, there are already seven volumes stitched + wiretap. Today the plot was on Vesti radio.

                Then we have a huge problem with those who protect the secrets of the state.
              2. Reducer
                Reducer 9 July 2020 02: 56 New
                +2
                Most likely all these volumes are in the case of his father, also Ivan. Which "accidentally" fell out of the window during an investigative action.
            2. bar
              bar 8 July 2020 18: 25 New
              +6
              They say that the Czechs recruited him back in 2012, the FSB grazed him somewhere in 2017, and now apparently just "by the way." Someone else from the Czechs will be sent under this business. But there is nothing to bring down monuments to our marshals. wassat
          2. Sergey39
            Sergey39 8 July 2020 19: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            And the fact that echoes, jellyfish and other scum are raging

            Not only. The joint editorial board of military media Mil.Press (FLOT.com, FlotProm.ru, Military.RF) suspends its activities.
          3. bk316
            bk316 9 July 2020 13: 49 New
            -1
            But then the question is for the special services themselves, how was it allowed?

            Good question, but I don’t think we need to know the answer. laughing
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 9 July 2020 11: 01 New
          0
          However, to collect seven volumes of the investigative file from May - it’s necessary to spy all day and night, and without days off and holidays - this can be emaciated to death for such an intensity of work! laughing
          And the fact that the listed tousis went to the picket, so it means that there the term for advanced training is quite serious short-handed ...
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 8 July 2020 14: 58 New
        -2
        yeah. two months like. He collected direct secrets over the past few days during quarantine ... in fact, it was immediately said that he had been shut down for past cases. The surveillance of the adviser to the head of Roscosmos, Ivan Safronov, suspected of transmitting the secret information of one of the NATO special services, was conducted for a long time, his lawyer Ivan Pavlov told RIA Novosti.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 8 July 2020 15: 18 New
          -2
          two months like. straight secrets collected

          What year did you have to wait?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 8 July 2020 15: 20 New
            11
            that's not the point. in RK he wouldn’t know anything stupidly. and a long surveillance and wiretapping suggests that it all started much earlier than two months ago.
            1. 4ekist
              4ekist 8 July 2020 15: 37 New
              13
              The investigation will figure it out. And the poster in the picture "leave me alone from Vanya Safronov" is inappropriate. This is an intervention in the investigative process.
              1. 210ox
                210ox 8 July 2020 15: 52 New
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                It’s not even a matter of interference, but the heading of the article. The arrest caused the Protests. What are the protests ?? !! A dozen regular blanks with posters is a protest?
              2. halpat
                halpat 8 July 2020 16: 09 New
                +5
                Quote: 4ekist
                The investigation will figure it out. And the poster in the picture "leave me alone from Vanya Safronov" is inappropriate. This is an intervention in the investigative process.

                Poorly written poster.
                It was necessary "... from Vanya ..." or "... from Vanya ..."
                And to put the young oppositionist.
                1. CARLSON
                  CARLSON 8 July 2020 17: 02 New
                  11
                  Yes, you’ve lost your mind about “And put a young opposition woman.”, A NEGR should stand with a banner so that everything is in accordance with the new trends of the State Department in the light of liberalism and tolerance
                  Are you trying to ascribe heterosexuality to the pillars of democracy?
                  1. halpat
                    halpat 8 July 2020 20: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: CARLSON
                    Yes, you’ve lost your mind about “And put a young opposition woman.”, A NEGR should stand with a banner so that everything is in accordance with the new trends of the State Department in the light of liberalism and tolerance
                    Are you trying to ascribe heterosexuality to the pillars of democracy?

                    No ... it's sure of course.
                    So with “Vanya” there is a young opposition woman, and with “Vanya” there is a black man and they are holding a rainbow umbrella together, for those who understand.
                    And this slurred with "Vanya" let him stay.
                    How do you like the script? Politically correct?
                    laughing
                    1. CARLSON
                      CARLSON 9 July 2020 11: 47 New
                      0
                      An excellent, unique, “young opposition woman” should be at least a fat Latinos or Asian, and be sure to, be sure to be a lesbian.
                2. 4ekist
                  4ekist 8 July 2020 19: 15 New
                  +3
                  "Get away from Vanya. Give him semolina and a rattle in his hands."
                  1. sg7s
                    sg7s 9 July 2020 14: 10 New
                    +1
                    Or such an option - "Leave behind Vanya Safronov - he has a rich inner world."
              3. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 8 July 2020 19: 42 New
                0
                The publication of RBC said that it will monitor the progress of the investigation.

                So watch, but do not put pressure on the investigation. By the way, it would be necessary to attract pressure.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 July 2020 15: 44 New
          0
          Quote: carstorm 11
          The surveillance ........ was conducted for a long time, his lawyer Ivan Pavlov told RIA Novosti.

          With high probability, bullshit. He would simply not have been admitted to such a position.
          And the state secret guards are now getting an enema with gramophone needles (s) for working poorly and waking up late.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 8 July 2020 15: 47 New
            +3
            Watching what he was led to. They know how to twist combinations. The Kommersant publication said that during operational development, employees of the Federal Security Service listened to Ivan Safronov’s phone and read his email. All collected materials and documents were submitted by investigators to the Lefortovo court. In addition, the investigation stated that three of the expert examinations proved the guilt of the detainee.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 8 July 2020 16: 36 New
              -1
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Watching what he was led to.

              Irrelevant.
              Pulling a person to such a position to arrest is utter nonsense. Which some would not have to voice, because by position they are supposed to be much smarter.

              Quote: carstorm 11
              The Kommersant publication said that during operational development, employees of the Federal Security Service listened to Ivan Safronov’s phone and read his email.

              laughing
              I would not trust such a biased source.
              But if this is true, very many people should change shoulder straps for the shirt of the unemployed, or even for a robes
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 8 July 2020 17: 07 New
                0
                Well, rubbish is not accepted to be taken out of the hut there) so we still don’t know)
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 8 July 2020 19: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Well, rubbish is not accepted to be taken out of the hut there) so we still don’t know)

                  And it is not necessary! Litter from the hut to drag.
                  But I hope the showdown will pass, because it turned out very ugly.
                  After all, at least previously a candidate for such a position must be agreed with the relevant services.
              2. Rusticolus
                Rusticolus 9 July 2020 00: 21 New
                +2
                But if on the contrary? He was quite consciously allowed into the Russian space system to see what his employers would be interested in. And as it turned out, there was no sense in further pulling the bucket.
            2. Reducer
              Reducer 9 July 2020 03: 00 New
              0
              You need to start with the fact that anyone who has ever contacted a foreigner can be brought under the modern wording of an article on high treason. And so, you need to wait for the trial.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 9 July 2020 03: 05 New
                +1
                this is not true. carriers of secrets clearly know what it is and what they risk in case of their actions. people who do not have access to a secret do not risk anything. the story with this comrade is quite understandable where it grew from. He, for the sake of hype, after learning information on a contract with Egypt on the sale of Su 35, instead of turning his head on, he laid it out in the public domain. than by the way such a not-so-small scandal caused. they don’t think but do it right away. but then they begin to think only late.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 July 2020 15: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        It’s just not clear who warmed it up and gave information that turned out to be state secret.

        These are the ones who protect it, they warmed it up, and they drove the Old.
      4. codetalker
        codetalker 8 July 2020 15: 32 New
        -17
        There was a hope that Rogozin would follow. But ... I still have to tolerate it, apparently.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 8 July 2020 15: 40 New
          0
          Quote: codetalker
          There was a hope that Rogozin would follow. But ... I still have to tolerate it, apparently

          Well, a narrow-minded person and a traitor are somehow not the same thing.
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 8 July 2020 15: 46 New
            -13
            It is necessary to dig thoroughly, then it will be clear: narrow-minded or pretends to be?
      5. Basil50
        Basil50 8 July 2020 16: 29 New
        +5
        So many spy and espionage experts, which is just amazing. Apparently cinema courses do not pass for the people just like that.
      6. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 8 July 2020 18: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        It’s just not clear who warmed him and gave information that turned out to be state secret .. He worked at the Rogozin’s department, the journalist warmed the journalist ..

        That's right, "We are responsible for those we tamed."
      7. Private-K
        Private-K 9 July 2020 10: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: APASUS
        It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow

        It’s just not clear who warmed him and gave information that turned out to be state secret .. He worked at the Rogozin’s department, the journalist warmed the journalist ..

        Another thing is incomprehensible and much more interesting: how, yesterday, a HSE graduate, without any obvious journalistic talents, for some 7-8 years, made an awesome career in liberal publications, received an “insider” information from state-affiliated structures, and was, some interested comrades promoted to the press center of Roscosmos. The career of this man is a graphic illustration of the influence of foreign agents.
        Well, fierce support by the liberals is a shortcut to the forehead (all other places are already taken - I suppose, the anus too, a hint, yeah).
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 8 July 2020 14: 54 New
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      So yesterday, one woman from the State Department immediately expressed concern. And this is the stigma. The lawyer merges all the decisions into the network. I am sure that the guy has a stigma in the cannon. The question is who helped. Prick for cooperation.
      1. marchcat
        marchcat 8 July 2020 15: 05 New
        14
        These are the frames that HSE (Higher School of Economics) "gives out" to infect it .... am
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 July 2020 15: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: vkl.47
        So yesterday, one woman from the State Department immediately expressed concern.

        So the long ears of donkeys appeared.
    3. credo
      credo 8 July 2020 15: 10 New
      21
      Quote: APASUS
      He was once a special correspondent for Vedomosti and Kommersant

      Quote: APASUS
      Pickets in support of the journalist were held in St. Petersburg; representatives of a number of media participated: Echo of Moscow, Open Media, and Business FM.

      It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow

      Yes you are right.
      And here's another one -
      Quote: APASUS
      He was once a special correspondent for Vedomosti and Kommersant
      .
      These are generally very “credible” publications picking up journalists of a certain mentality and character. At one time, when Kommersant was under the control of Berezovsky, and there was a war in Chechnya in the Caucasus, the editorials of this publication were full of articles that Russian troops were engaged in banditry, drunkenness and terror in relation to the peace-loving and proud peoples of the Caucasus, and only such as Basayev , Khatabb and others like them protect the peoples of the Caucasus from aggressive Russian troops.
      However, even now these publications do not shine with objectivity
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 15: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow

      Yes, there’s already no place for a mark to be found, it’s stamped.
    5. Vestovoi
      Vestovoi 8 July 2020 16: 01 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Pickets in support of the journalist were held in St. Petersburg; representatives of a number of media participated: Echo of Moscow, Open Media, and Business FM.

      It’s practically a stigma with the symbol of the State Department, now it’s clear from where the legs grow

      You can shoot a traitor if he has such support. 100% TRAITOR!
    6. Labrador
      Labrador 8 July 2020 20: 26 New
      0
      "Echo of Moscow", "Open Media", "Business FM".

      Agree good . When these slugs picket for you, you can immediately change the article to at least the same with aggravating ones.
    7. DeKo
      DeKo 8 July 2020 21: 12 New
      0
      As soon as Vanya began to go to Riga and meet with Kasparov, much became immediately clear
  2. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 15: 01 New
    +6
    My opinion is - "stupidly" digging under Rogozin - no matter how I belonged to him !!! hi
    When applying for a job to Rogozin Safronov, the FSB had to "check" him and his relatives up to 7 knees - they have such a job !!! And schaz on the "blue eye" to claim that Safronov was a "spy" BEFORE joining Rogozin, this is like a direct text to sign the professional unsuitability of an employee of the FSB that they checked him !!! bully good
    1. Yurahip
      Yurahip 8 July 2020 15: 29 New
      +2
      Or maybe they specially arranged it for Rogozin to see where his handles would pull the chain to open these magazine hats. Just like in the movies!
    2. Vestovoi
      Vestovoi 8 July 2020 16: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      My opinion is - "stupidly" digging under Rogozin - no matter how I belonged to him !!!

      A good version ... There will be a reason to remove him from his post to the delight of some
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Vestovoi
        Quote: Crown without virus
        My opinion is - "stupidly" digging under Rogozin - no matter how I belonged to him !!!

        A good version ... There will be a reason to remove him from his post to the delight of some

        And in another "does not fight" wassat since the FSB has already stated that this is connected with cases before getting a job, it means that the most plausible version - Rogozin was set up - I suppose, even Safronov was not checked as it WAS POSED !!! lol Safronov, when applying for such a position, had to give a bunch of subscriptions on non-disclosure of state secrets - and he should have been checked from "a" to "me" !!!
        1. Vestovoi
          Vestovoi 8 July 2020 17: 08 New
          -5
          Quote: Crown without virus
          Safronov, when applying for such a position, had to give a bunch of subscriptions on non-disclosure of state secrets - and he should have been checked from "a" to "me" !!!

          Exactly !!!! This is not the office of "Horns and Hooves" ... Rogozin apparently blundered!
          I hope to clean up a specific corporation. negative
          Especially since the Amers say they’ve developed their own engine .. Here’s how much you’ve saved 100 billion .. Shot you need to enter for treason!
  3. K-612-O
    K-612-O 8 July 2020 15: 02 New
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    How did you get this creative fair-faced girl, who a priori is not guilty of anything, not in a drunken murder, not in treason.
    We already had a prisoner of conscience, the scientist Sutyagin, whom the Americans quickly exchanged with Skripal and Zaporizhsky, there was also a howl, biting his elbows, slander, he was a scientist, etc. .
    Once again, I want to remind you that if the office screw, then it screw with a 100% guarantee of evidence. Not the agency that, after 8 years of practicing the character, knit it without reinforced concrete evidence.
    And there is a suspicion that in the journalistic environment such Safronovs decently gained, that’s why they got bogged down.
    And of course we do not forget how a targeted company has been conducted since last year to discredit the power structures in the media, which I am also afraid of being commissioned by people with kind eyes from intelligence officers and the State Department.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 8 July 2020 15: 16 New
      +7
      How did you get this creative fair-faced girl, who a priori is not guilty of anything, not in a drunken murder, not in treason.

      rather, not a hat, but a bohemian, from the French "gypsy".
      More like an ethnic group. As someone is arrested, they immediately gather at the pre-trial detention center and try to recapture
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 15: 31 New
      0
      Quote: K-612-O
      How did you get this creative fair-faced girl, who a priori is not guilty of anything, not in a drunken murder, not in treason.

      They get away with everything, and they have advocates at the top, and the State Department has someone to hook up about "democratic media, you don’t need to talk about how Sobchak was crucified yesterday with honey. It’s disgusting.
      1. Vestovoi
        Vestovoi 8 July 2020 17: 15 New
        -5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        They get away with everything, and they have advocates at the top, and the State Department has someone to hook up on about the "democratic media, you don’t need to talk about how Sobchak was crucified yesterday with honey.

        I agree Vlad .. hi Now such a howl will rise in the "world media" .. Tyranny, violation of human rights, then it turns out that he is from non-traditional, etc ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 8 July 2020 17: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Vestovoi
          I agree Vlad .. Now such a howl will rise in the "world media" .. Tyranny, violation of human rights, then it turns out that he is from non-traditional, etc ...

          Well, at least the states are busy with other things, and Europe is not a leisure activity. But then there are the Limitrophs and Poland, those are the first to raise a howl.
          1. Vestovoi
            Vestovoi 8 July 2020 17: 55 New
            -5
            Quote: tihonmarine
            But then there are the Limitrophs and Poland, those are the first to raise a howl.

            Well, these freelance singers ... With them everything is clear, no matter how "our internal" ones are connected .. Soon "flash mobs" will start ugh what word, etc.
            Youngsters are going to riot in social networks for riots .. Everything is according to the scenario!
  4. brr1
    brr1 8 July 2020 15: 09 New
    +6
    Under such an article they just don’t take it. So the evidence base is well assembled.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 8 July 2020 15: 14 New
      +8
      You can’t write 7 volumes of business in a day, the boy was grazed to the last, and contacts with sources too.
      I’m afraid that many people don’t get a needle in one place, and not only from our “free” journalists, but also from those with whom he milked information.
      1. Vestovoi
        Vestovoi 8 July 2020 18: 00 New
        -4
        Quote: K-612-O
        You can’t write 7 volumes of business in a day, the boy was grazed to the last, and contacts with sources too.

        100% Now if they grab a hand or tongue .. That evidence should be a wagon and a small cart .. Otherwise, howling and lamentations to the whole world .. Sanctions, etc.
        Quote: K-612-O
        I’m afraid that many people don’t get a needle in one place, and not only from our “free” journalists, but also from those with whom he milked information.

        At the expense of the needle ... !!!!! Laughed good laughing
        But it depends on who will interrogate lol Specialists are still ..
        Here is a chudger that started in demshiz, etc.
        PS Maybe they will prove that the switchman (launching GLONAS satellites, lost), probably the mechanic didn’t insert the plug correctly, will prove innocence .. (Remember, there were 5-10 years)
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 8 July 2020 15: 12 New
    14
    After such characters as “Horseback” rushed to the defense of this journalist with the speed of sound, oh sorry Ksenia Sobchak and the like, the version of his innocence immediately disappeared for me. negative
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 8 July 2020 15: 16 New
      +7
      Even Koshchei the Immortal, oh Yavlinsky forgotten, he already cries out for repression and demands the removal of charges
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 15: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      oh sorry Ksenia Sobchak and the like, the version of his innocence immediately disappeared for me.

      Ksenia is like a barometer, more of a stink, the barometer jumps up. This is their family. And the ears stick out, like our bay from the 1st Guards Cave Squadron.
  6. Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 8 July 2020 15: 17 New
    +4
    On change.org, a petite has already appeared from Novaya Gazeta, such as "freedom to Ivan Safronov!"
    There must be another victim of the "bloody regime."
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 17: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Aleksandre
      On change.org, a petite has already appeared from Novaya Gazeta, such as "freedom to Ivan Safronov!"

      When I hear this howl, I always remember the movie “Watch Out for the Car” - “Freedom to Yuri Detochkin!”
      It used to be simpler, the cops would quickly show both freedom and equality.
  7. Yurahip
    Yurahip 8 July 2020 15: 17 New
    +2
    Let it go! # He is a journalist!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 17: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Jurachip
      Let it go! # He is a journalist!

      Just shouted, "an onzhevelikartist" and now they are yelling "an onzhezhurnalist". But why don’t they shout, let go of the “tractor engineer”?
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 8 July 2020 18: 50 New
      +3
      You probably have a typo, do not let go, but lower it
  8. mark2
    mark2 8 July 2020 15: 19 New
    +4
    Oh, like a liberda, she came out to defend the man Rogozin, who, according to the Leberda and the Syrian-faced, stole everything and not Musk at all.
    Doesn't this seem like a very consistent position? It looks like an order.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 8 July 2020 15: 23 New
      +4
      Well, he is still not a man of Rogozin, but a muddy Merchant and a foreign agent of Vedomosti, so his.
      And I’m afraid they’ll start to burn, because it’s there and they can come after them, who knows at what stage of operational development it is at.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 8 July 2020 15: 32 New
    +4
    While working in the media, Safronov specialized in covering topics related to the defense industry, and also repeatedly accompanied Russian President Vladimir Putin on his trips.
    ... Oh how! .. It seems that he is not the secrets of Roscosmos, he passed on to foreign intelligence .... The president is in the ring of spies?
  10. RUSmen
    RUSmen 8 July 2020 15: 35 New
    +6
    Now I just read the news in Yandex, the protection of this pretzel gurgles something there - I think it is necessary to shoot both the defense and the traitor himself.
    1. mark2
      mark2 8 July 2020 17: 44 New
      0
      There are two questions on the agenda:
      1. To shoot Comrade Sfronov.
      2. Repaint the Kremlin in green.
      What will be the questions and suggestions?
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 8 July 2020 22: 19 New
        0
        Quote: mark2
        Repaint the Kremlin in green.

        If you are guided by the source, then the signal "repaint the Kremlin in green" is supposed to shoot all the ministers and deputies. soldier
      2. iouris
        iouris 8 July 2020 23: 35 New
        0
        Question: But whoever gave Safronov the information, what color to paint?
  11. iouris
    iouris 8 July 2020 15: 47 New
    -1
    If the state loses its monopoly on state secrets and court, or shares it with some elite “opposition”, then what is the difference between them? Such a state is like the mythical Tyan-Pustay, which has two heads, and therefore the two main strategic directions of the type of movement, but they are opposite, and therefore the conservative body of the Tyan-Pustular stands where someone installed and feeds it.
    Currently, Safronov is not a journalist, but an employee of Roscosmos.
    Questions remain: why did Rogozin accept him for service and what did he manage to advise Rogozin for.
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 July 2020 16: 16 New
    +1
    RBC, you collapsed from an oak tree. The case of high treason, what else should I send the interrogation protocols. We have a lot of excavation work on arranging the NSR. Can we take the experience of the Chinese "reactive" brigades?
  13. sleeve
    sleeve 8 July 2020 16: 32 New
    +1
    Well, then it worked correctly ...
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 July 2020 16: 32 New
    +2
    So people are not protesting, but liberals, and they also need to prepare cameras.
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 8 July 2020 16: 47 New
    -1
    If / when he is convicted as a traitor, all the same, there will be screams, then is he not to blame?
  16. Tagan
    Tagan 8 July 2020 16: 57 New
    -3
    Quote: c-Petrov
    Svarog, you did more? Take out the scales, now we will measure

    You can’t do without a gas mask!
  17. Guards turn
    Guards turn 8 July 2020 17: 00 New
    0
    In the case of Safronov, a press conference is being prepared at which certain facts and circumstances will be presented.
  18. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 8 July 2020 17: 06 New
    +1
    Well, so do not plant Rogozin? .. Although Kommersant and Vedomosti are already the default article.
  19. Dikson
    Dikson 8 July 2020 17: 30 New
    +1
    I wonder why the journalist - leader Rogozin generally needed a journalist - adviser ... What, the vocabulary has run out? And “Vanya”, since he was rubbing all the way at the doors to the highest offices, I probably heard a lot of things .. And somewhere I didn’t follow the language .. In addition to everything else .. Illuminating the activities of the military-industrial complex, you will inevitably talk about the performance characteristics of products and new developments .. here is the question for the curators yet. Materials should be agreed upon before publication? especially in the field of defense and state security ...
  20. imobile2008
    imobile2008 8 July 2020 18: 06 New
    +3
    A journalist must publish all the information that he owns. He should not have access to state secrets. If he published information that is state secrets, then he must be awarded that he found the vulnerability and put the one who leaked. This is in a normal state. And so they create the appearance of activity, how to remember when they put cards bought in a US kiosk because they had the wrong scale. The illusion of state secrets.
  21. imobile2008
    imobile2008 8 July 2020 18: 11 New
    0
    Quote: credo

    However, even now these publications do not shine with objectivity
    What then to say about others. Take a selection of the press about 5 years ago, laughing at sanctions, predicting a dollar at 60 kopecks in a year, I already want to laugh. Where are these "experts" now? Further articles are written, and Leontev in Rosneft
  22. Avior
    Avior 8 July 2020 18: 13 New
    +1
    What is confusing is this: if someone was arrested for transmitting classified information, to which he did not have access, as some people write, about the supply of dryers to Egypt, it automatically turns out that somewhere there is a medium of classified information that issued it to him, and which should to be arrested at the same time.
    But why not a word about it
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 8 July 2020 18: 53 New
      +1
      This does not mean that not arrested (us). Show me everything, tell me everything
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 July 2020 19: 01 New
        +2
        I don’t need to.
        But everyone would be useful. Even if their names are not called. Some questions would be removed. Just the one who does not need to know about this, probably knows.
        I’m not saying that spies should be caught as authorized by TASS to declare, but nevertheless, the approach should be kept secret, in which the calculation is that the accused will break down and agree to sign anything to get a shorter time period, he sets up special services to search for real spies .
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 9 July 2020 05: 09 New
          +1
          Counterintelligence for the sake of sticks does not work, if they take, then they take the whole bush. They have been working out not only this boy for 8 years, but all his contacts are also taken in pencil.
          1. Avior
            Avior 9 July 2020 06: 25 New
            +1
            Let me not believe that you are so knowledgeable about the methods of counterintelligence in general and about this matter in particular.
            He was in the presidential pool of journalists, and the stranger thing was that he was so watched, and it’s hard to imagine given the fact that the main task is to keep secret messages and not to arrest someone.
            hi
  23. flicker
    flicker 8 July 2020 18: 29 New
    -3
    A former journalist is suspected of collaborating with intelligence from a NATO country.

    For the sake of babos what they just won’t do.
    Someone is pouring information into NATO countries, someone is pouring mud on Russia for Soros' babos, and is stubborn in accepting constitutional amendments necessary for Russia's independence.
    ---
    Exciting times await us. Soon the weed will begin to merge - it will be fun laughing
    ---
    There Russophobes begin to bring down from Russia (Makar, Parthenes)
    bully
  24. paco.soto
    paco.soto 8 July 2020 19: 12 New
    -3
    I read the material and the discussion. I thought, because I’m standing in a megaplug.
    My neutral opinion: detained - investigate and "do not make noise!" journalists are protesting - an extra headache for Russia now.
  25. megadeth
    megadeth 8 July 2020 19: 17 New
    0
    Because of one reptile, 10 billion and 10 labor is the current of thousands of our fellow citizens "down the drain." These young magazines (mass media) are already everywhere in the Duma and in leadership positions in the Moscow Region (women generals), and here at 45 you will get a decent job and retire. The FSB just won’t. It is necessary to untwist and give the term to the maximum ... this bastard ..!
  26. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 July 2020 19: 42 New
    -2
    Representatives of a number of media participated: Echo of Moscow, Open Media, and Business FM.

    If so, then we must definitely plant!
  27. yfast
    yfast 8 July 2020 21: 01 New
    -1
    Do they get to Roscosmos through a bed of sheets?
  28. DeKo
    DeKo 8 July 2020 21: 10 New
    +1
    The funny thing is that all the channels that trumpet for his innocence are liberal or Ukrainian
  29. Azis
    Azis 8 July 2020 21: 55 New
    +3
    I’m just interested in - what can this “boy” advise the Head of Roscosmos? What secret could this “Bad Boy" know in 2 months of work at Roskosmos? If he learned something and handed over to the Czechs from his previous “work” as a “journalist,” then why was he accepted into Roscosmos? Despite the fact that they allegedly documented ... I believe that he simply told the truth that in Roscosmos everything is very good (bad).
  30. brr1
    brr1 8 July 2020 23: 11 New
    -1
    Quote: Dikson
    I wonder why the journalist - leader Rogozin generally needed a journalist - adviser ... What, the vocabulary has run out? And “Vanya”, since he was rubbing all the way at the doors to the highest offices, I probably heard a lot of things .. And somewhere I didn’t follow the language .. In addition to everything else .. Illuminating the activities of the military-industrial complex, you will inevitably talk about the performance characteristics of products and new developments .. here is the question for the curators yet. Materials should be agreed upon before publication? especially in the field of defense and state security ...

    They just wanted to provoke something that would manifest itself. The place is good for this. And maybe they did it.
  31. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 July 2020 23: 28 New
    0
    Protest on duty (not to say Protestants winked ) went to work and a couple of fools on high-fishing. But called loud protests. Took, then it was for what. Let's wait for the trial, huh?
  32. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 9 July 2020 01: 30 New
    -1
    How people are easily led by state applications. No one even wants to speculate: is the person guilty?
    Such people, to whom everything is easily driven into the brain, then they will simply knock on the neighbors that those cutlets do not eat on Saturdays.
    We just went hunting for journalists. But the people are satisfied. They say that an agent of the State Department, then that is the way it is. Why turn on your head, think, because the news will not lie.
    It’s a pity, it’s a pity that our people are so naive ...
  33. georggy
    georggy 9 July 2020 07: 23 New
    0
    A source familiar with the materials of the case filed against the adviser to the head of Roscosmos, Ivan Safronov, told reporters that the examination confirmed the suspicions of the investigation about the disclosure of state secrets by the suspects.

    Recall, on Tuesday, July 7, the Moscow Lefortovo court arrested the former journalist of Vedomosti and Kommersant, and now adviser to the head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, Ivan Safronov, until September 6 on suspicion of transmitting classified information about military-technical cooperation between Russia and her defense complex of one of the NATO countries.

    "The case file contains evidence of the examination confirming the findings of the investigation on Safronov's disclosure of state secrets," said a source close to the investigation, quoted by TASS.

    The detainee’s lawyer Ivan Pavlov has already confirmed that the security services have been tracking Safronov for a very long time.

    Yes, and Safronov’s daddy should be closed
  34. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 9 July 2020 11: 33 New
    0
    Representatives of the Legislative Assembly Maxim Reznik and Boris Vishnevsky also came out with posters.
    Oh, yes, the Social Revolutionary and the Yabloko are a sweet couple ... The faces of our local "system" oppa. laughing If there is at least some benefit from Vishnevsky in ZakS (works on town defense), then Reznik is just ballast - it’s nothing good, sheer scandals. negative
  35. Campanella
    Campanella 9 July 2020 22: 47 New
    +1
    What department are such and advisers.
    Journalist-adviser to Roskosmos!
    Where is the world heading?
  36. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 10 July 2020 01: 25 New
    -1
    how these pickets are sometimes annoying ... and it’s okay for a really “prisoner of conscience” ... and the court would have indicated these pickets as pressure on the court and according to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 276. Espionage would be soldered to a maximum of twenty .... so that fools have a science for the future
  37. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 10 July 2020 01: 28 New
    -1
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    How people are easily led by state applications. No one even wants to speculate: is the person guilty?
    Such people, to whom everything is easily driven into the brain, then they will simply knock on the neighbors that those cutlets do not eat on Saturdays.
    We just went hunting for journalists. But the people are satisfied. They say that an agent of the State Department, then that is the way it is. Why turn on your head, think, because the news will not lie.
    It’s a pity, it’s a pity that our people are so naive ...

    hunting for whom? so, come on, over the past 5 years, here we’ve got twenty names of journalists of prisoners of conscience on whom the hunt was announced and they were planted or something else ... the hunt .... how are you, dead and not in a uranium mine, the victim died? or were you shot twice too?
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 10 July 2020 01: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Representatives of the Legislative Assembly Maxim Reznik and Boris Vishnevsky also came out with posters.
    Oh, yes, the Social Revolutionary and the Yabloko are a sweet couple ... The faces of our local "system" oppa ...
    Yours, yours, and whose else ?! wassat