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E-2D Advanced Hawkey instead of E-2C Hawkeye: French change planes AWACS

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E-2D Advanced Hawkey instead of E-2C Hawkeye: French change planes AWACS

The United States will supply France with three Northtrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye carrier-based early warning and control aircraft. According to the US Department of Defense Agency for Military Cooperation (DSCA), a notification was sent to the US Congress. Previously, the deal was approved by the State Department.


All three E-2D Advanced Hawkeye will be delivered to France through the US program Foreign Military Sales (FMS). The total cost of delivery will be $ 2 billion, including training and technical support packages. The first plane will arrive in France no earlier than 2025.

In addition to the aircraft themselves, the delivery will include: 10 T56-A-427A engines (6 installed and 4 spare), 3 APY-9 radars, 4 AN / ALQ-217 radio intelligence systems (3 installed and 1 spare), 3 integrated navigation systems and Mapping AN / AYK-27, 5 Link-16 MIDS-JTRS (Multifunctional Information Distribution System / Joint Tactical Radio System), including 3 installed and 2 spare, 10 sets of integrated inertial / GPS navigation systems (6 installed and 4 spare), 4 friend-or-foe identification systems AN / APX-122 (A) and AN / APX-123 (A) (3 installed and 1 spare).

These AWACS aircraft of a new modification of the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye should replace the three AWACS aircraft of the previous modification of the E-2C Hawkeye that are in service with the French Navy. They are currently part of the wing of the only French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle (usually there are two aircraft on board, one on the shore). France received two E-2C aircraft in 2000 and one more in 2007. All aircraft underwent upgrades to Hawkeye 2000.

According to the bmpd blog, France has actually become the second foreign country to receive E-2D modification aircraft after Japan, which ordered 13 such aircraft.
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  1. Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 8 July 2020 12: 17 New
    +1
    I just can’t understand why we can’t do such an airplane for about 30 years. Everyone understands its importance, and all to no avail. They would have taken "Kukuruznika" at DOSAAF, given it to craftsmen, taught them to fold linen wings, and instead of paratroopers they stuffed RER equipment. And go ahead. If the mind for more is not enough. laughing
    1. Waterline915
      Waterline915 8 July 2020 12: 23 New
      +1
      At least a mock-up of the deck-mounted YAK-44 AWACS was created to be based on the Ulyanovsk aircraft-carrying cruiser and launched from a steam catapult, but since we do not have any Ulyanovsk or other aircraft-carrying cruisers with a steam catapult, then there is no sense in this aircraft. But you can’t launch such planes from a springboard.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 8 July 2020 12: 46 New
        +6

        The Yak-44E was designed for takeoff from a springboard. The estimated take-off run when taking off the Yak-44E aircraft from the springboard was 150-200 m, the estimated cruising flight speed was 450 km / h, and the patrol duration was about 5 hours.
        1. Siberian 66
          Siberian 66 8 July 2020 12: 58 New
          +1
          Dear, I respectfully respect what we have created and designed. Exhaust where?
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 8 July 2020 13: 08 New
            +4
            This is not about "exhaust", but about whether the designed aircraft could take off without a catapult.
            Regarding the "exhaust" - the question is not for us, it is for the autocrat.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 9 July 2020 12: 24 New
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              Quote: Undecim
              could the designed aircraft take off without a catapult.

              could ...
              In the final version (1984 project), the Yak-44E was equipped with two D-27 turbofan engines developed by the Progress Zaporizhzhya Engineering Design Bureau. By its characteristics, the D-27 engine has no analogues in the global aircraft engine industry. The use of these engines with increased thrust during take-off mode, as well as taking into account the blowing of the wing, made it possible to provide a Yak-44E springboard launch-free launch from aircraft carriers. Both key elements of the engine that determine the high technological level - the gearbox and fan - are of Russian production.
              The take-off power of the D-27 engines was 13880 hp. each (according to other sources - 14000 hp)
              Cruising power - 6750 hp each. every.
              The length of the engine was 4198 millimeters.
              Weight without fan - 1650 kg.
              The diameter of the fan was 4,5 m.
              The number of blades is 8 and 6.
              In take-off mode, the specific fuel consumption per hour was 0.17 kg / hp, and in cruising mode, from 0,13 to 0,143 kg / hp. in hour.
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 9 July 2020 12: 33 New
                0
                Thanks, only you read my previous koientariy?
                1. PSih2097
                  PSih2097 9 July 2020 17: 11 New
                  0
                  Quote: Undecim
                  Thanks, only you read my previous koientariy?

                  I understand that ..
                  This is not about "exhaust",

                  About the result? If about him, then in a couple of years he would have flown - if the "conspiracy in the forest" hadn’t broken off his wings, almost at the stage of assembling (along with Ulyanovsk) ...
                  but about whether the designed aircraft could take off without a catapult.

                  and here are some misunderstandings, either a statement or a question (by the way, are you not a journalist?)
                  BUT, theoretically (scientifically - even through TsAGI) it is proved YES, OH could take off from a springboard.
                  1. Undecim
                    Undecim 9 July 2020 18: 28 New
                    0
                    I asked if you read my comment a little higher on the thread.
                    1. PSih2097
                      PSih2097 9 July 2020 18: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: Undecim
                      comments

                      I read, but the Yak44 was not originally designed for ski jumping, development was for a catapult ...
                      And then there was a need to start from a springboard, without powder boosters ...
                      PS But you could continue the construction of Ulyanovsk, it took only $ 1,5 KKK, but Eltsin and Co. decided otherwise under the laughter of the State Department ...
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 8 July 2020 13: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Waterline915
        Was created at least a model of the deck of the AWACS yak-44

        There was another model of the An-71, only its design did not allow full use for takeoff from an aircraft carrier, too many alterations had to be done.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 9 July 2020 10: 46 New
          0
          Could fly on land.
    2. barin
      barin 8 July 2020 12: 32 New
      18
      Quote: Siberian 66
      why do not we have such a plane for 30 years

      There is no aircraft carrier with a catapult - there is no carrier-based AWACS aircraft.
      We can’t decide on Avik in any way: it’s necessary to build, then it will wait ...
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 8 July 2020 12: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: barin

        There is no aircraft carrier with a catapult - there is no carrier-based AWACS aircraft.
        We can’t decide on Avik in any way: it’s necessary to build, then it will wait ...


        Japan also has no aircraft carriers, but they have been ordering such aircraft for many years.
        They have 17 AWACS aircraft, of which 4 are E-3Sentry levels, and 13 Hokaev, which they completely change to a more modern model ..
        More than ours.


        The Meks have the same planes - 3pcs, the Egyptians already have 7pcs, the Israelis - 4pcs.
        Such an aircraft is beneficial in operation.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 8 July 2020 13: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: SovAr238A
          Japan also has no aircraft carriers

          Has already.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 8 July 2020 13: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Grazdanin
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Japan also has no aircraft carriers

            Has already.


            Will Hokai take off from him?
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 8 July 2020 13: 57 New
              0
              There are no modifications. Japan is forbidden to have aircraft carriers, but ...
              1. SovAr238A
                SovAr238A 8 July 2020 13: 58 New
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                Quote: Grazdanin
                There are no modifications. Japan is forbidden to have aircraft carriers, but ...


                There is no catapult.
                So Hokai won't take off ...
              2. bayard
                bayard 8 July 2020 19: 48 New
                0
                Quote: Grazdanin
                There are no modifications. Japan is forbidden to have aircraft carriers, but ..

                These aircraft-carrying destroyers are for supporting missile defense tasks and supporting amphibious operations.
                Even when the F-35s appear on them.
                By and large, these are all auxiliary forces for the American Navy. Their impact capabilities are extremely limited. Like all ships of the Japanese fleet.
                1. Grazdanin
                  Grazdanin 8 July 2020 19: 57 New
                  -2
                  Now limited do not argue. But to equip with strike tools is not a problem, destroyers with the Mk 41 do not even need to be redone. As soon as the ban on the presence of the army is lifted, the self-defense forces will very quickly equip offensive weapons to the fullest.
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 8 July 2020 20: 07 New
                    -1
                    That's when they equip, then we'll talk. In the meantime, the Japanese fleet with the Chinese, and even Pacific Fleet, didn’t stand near the strike capabilities.
                    It’s on the drums, because during the war, ships and fleets not only fight off, but also hit the enemy’s ships and their naval base.
                    By the time of their (Japanese ships) strike weapons, China has already rebuilt a fleet equivalent to the US. In any case, in the Pacific. Look at the number of ships laid down by them, ships under construction and the pace of their construction.
                    The total tonnage of ships handed over to the fleet per year is now China's 4 (four) times higher than that of the United States. Another 10 years of such striking work, and the Chinese fleet will surpass the US fleet in all forms. And in the littoral component, he now surpasses them by his head.
                    Look at from types 055 and 052D.
                    1. Grazdanin
                      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 20: 30 New
                      -1
                      The Japanese fleet has no problems with the defeat of surface, underwater and air targets. Destroyers and corvettes at least have harpoons or type 90. The Japanese fleet cannot strike along the coast, except for artillery. China alone in this segment surpasses Japan in the surface fleet.
                      By the number of destroyers, Japan (39) is superior to China (23), in quality by 2 heads. The only thing in China is a lot more submarines, but on that theater of war they are not very suitable for effective use.
                      Chinese ships are copies of the Soviet, but the USSR is 30 years old. Their quality is extremely low. Quantitatively there are many, but this is achieved by frankly simple, small tonnage and outdated types.
                      The fact that China’s tonnage and number of pennants is greater than that of Japan agrees, but how this is achieved.
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 8 July 2020 20: 53 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        By the number of destroyers, Japan (39) is superior to China (23), in quality by 2 heads.

                        Well, if you all counted the destroyers for the destroyers, then count the Chinese type 054 frigates too - they have 8 strike missiles + from 16 to 32 missiles. In terms of impact capabilities, they will not only not be inferior to many Japanese destroyers, but will probably surpass them in the quality of anti-ship missiles. For there are not "Harpoons" standing there.
                        In addition, the fleet is a COMPLEX of forces and assets, including aviation, coastal missile systems, and reconnaissance equipment.
                        No one will call the weak Japanese fleet, but confront China ... all the more alone ... and with the prospect of at least a few years ahead ... no ... no, this is not serious.
                      2. Grazdanin
                        Grazdanin 8 July 2020 21: 22 New
                        -1
                        Take Akizuki destroyers and his anti-ship missiles
                        1 UVK Mk-41 for 32 cells for ASROC PLUR
                        8 RCC “Type 90” SSM-1B SSM
                        Is it not enough?
                        The main thing is not the quantity of weapons, but the quality of modern electronic systems, China has nothing like Aegis. In modern warfare, situational awareness, data exchange, and electronic warfare systems are important. Japan's defense systems are excellent, anti-submarine systems are enough.
                        The fact that the MSS and the Chinese Navy are comparable, we both came to this. Who is superior to whom the discussion is debatable, I believe that thanks to excellent electronics and the class of ships, Japan completely dominates, as in 1905 over RI. Do you think that quantitative characteristics are more important. (This does not take into account the theater of war, allies and ground forces, given this alliance of Japan, the USA, South Korea, Phillipin more than completely dominates the fleet of China and S. Korea.) I think both approaches have places to live, I hope that all this will remain theoretical considerations.
                      3. bayard
                        bayard 9 July 2020 04: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        1 UVK Mk-41 for 32 cells for ASROC PLUR
                        8 RCC “Type 90” SSM-1B SSM
                        Is it not enough?

                        This is equal to the BC of the Chinese frigate 054D, except for the PLUR, which are not shock.
                        And if you count the Chinese destroyers and frigates on the stocks and in the completion, summarize the existing destroyers and frigates and compare this with the number of Japanese destroyers ... the picture for Japan will be even less rosy.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        The main thing is not the quantity of weapons, but the quality of modern electronic systems

                        And what’s the fight? belay
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        Japan's defense systems are excellent, anti-submarine systems are enough.

                        This testifies to the auxiliary character of the Japanese fleet, while the strike functions were given entirely to the American fleet.
                        The Japanese fleet will be able to defend itself.
                        To attack ... with great difficulty.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        You think that quantitative characteristics are more important.

                        With proper quality, yes.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        This does not take into account the theater of operations, allies and ground forces, given this alliance of Japan, the USA, South Korea, and Phillipin more than completely dominates the fleet of China and S. Korea

                        War, including war at sea, is a complex undertaking. China has a lot ... even a lot of medium and shorter range missiles, as well as long-range missiles. All this can turn the naval base of all these island states into dust. In the same way as their airfields, headquarters, arsenals, etc.
                        Numerous Chinese submarines and littoral ships will provide a tight blockade, reconnaissance and control of the region’s water areas, and aviation, coastal complexes and naval surface ships will be engaged in knocking out enemy surface ships. They have a lot of long-range missiles.
                        The presence of the already numerous marines and their means of delivery will make it possible to consistently occupy all the islands of interest to them, aircraft carriers and base aviation will provide air support and cover. This, of course, is not about the Japanese islands - it will be more difficult with them. But what about the rest ...
                        Maybe right now this is not entirely obvious to you, but in just 2 to 3 years everything will look completely different.
                        And in five years?
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        I believe that, thanks to its superior electronics and ship class, Japan completely dominates, as in 1905 over RI

                        At that time, the time factor played in favor of Japan.
                        If RI put its new battleships a year earlier, or stretch Japan with the outbreak of the war at least another half a year, that’s all - the result for Japan would be fatal.
                        At that time, she won at a pace - having received all her ships (+ two in addition) in 1903. The Pacific Fleet of the Republic of Ingushetia was supposed to receive its new ships in 1904.
                        The Japanese defeated the Russian fleet in parts, always having a QUANTITATIVE advantage. Even the worst quality of Russian shells would not have saved the Japanese fleet from defeat (combat experience in the Sea of ​​Japan of 1904). In Tsushima, however, the forces were even more incomparable. Plus, new elongated high-explosive shells of the 1905 specimen from the Japanese.
                        So the quantity matters.
                        Like quality, of course.
                      4. Grazdanin
                        Grazdanin 9 July 2020 10: 26 New
                        -1
                        We can take destroyers URO there at 90-96 Mk-41. But this does not play a role. China is building ships of the USSR clones, using technologies of the late 80s. Yes, they are overloaded with various missiles, but the means of reconnaissance, detection, guidance, interaction, situational awareness are all 2 heads lower. Now it is more important. The Japanese, understanding where the enemy is located precisely, having high-precision weapons, ships assembled in a single network will destroy the Chinese without entering their zone of destruction. The Chinese simply do not understand what is happening, much less do not have time to give orders. A large fleet of frigates / corvettes is much more difficult to manage, especially those means that are. It is important to create an advantage in the sectors, and not have a large fleet. In the doctrine of the Western countries (Japan and South Korea I will conditionally refer to them), the war will go on against quantitatively large forces that are defeated by tactics and technical superiority. Everyone is looking at the pace of China, see what they are building in Japan. Yes, quantitatively less, but technically many times superior to the Chinese. As soon as Japan lifts restrictions on the army, strike components will increase many times over. There are enough of them now.
                        If you look comprehensively, then for China the situation is catastrophic. The combined fleet of the USA, Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines is an order of magnitude superior, quantitatively and qualitatively. Enemies are located in a semicircle over the Pacific coast. Chinese emergency construction is an attempt to level the backlog, at least somehow secure its coast.
                      5. bayard
                        bayard 9 July 2020 16: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        We can take destroyers URO there at 90-96 Mk-41. But that doesn't matter

                        How to play! What kind of strike weapon?
                        That's it.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        China is building ships of the USSR clones, using technologies of the late 80s.

                        Not at all. The destroyers 052D and 055 are not at all like the Soviet-built destroyers, although yes - the Soviet shipbuilding school is felt, many of our former shipbuilders took part in this.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        The Japanese, understanding where the enemy is exactly located, having high-precision weapons, ships assembled in a single network will destroy the Chinese without entering their zone of destruction.

                        And again the question - WHAT?
                        Yes, and not entering the zone of their defeat.
                        Everything in this region is close by, including all naval forces and other military infrastructure facilities. China has something to hit it all with.
                        Japan doesn’t.
                        Only defend.
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        As soon as Japan lifts restrictions on the army, strike components will increase many times over. There are enough of them now.

                        For self-defense. In the worst dream, the Japanese can only dream of a war with modern China. And they are very well aware of this.
                        Japan is an island. Without resources, next to a strong opponent. Without the United States, they would not dare to rock either. And with the United States (present) - only in a nightmare ... called "The Last Days of Japan."
                        Quote: Grazdanin
                        Chinese emergency construction is an attempt to level the backlog, at least somehow secure its coast.

                        It is leveling. And they do it. Their fleet development programs are comprehensive, systemic in nature, designed for the future.
                        And yet - China has decided to balance strategic nuclear capabilities with the United States.
                        And they have something to equalize (the latest Chinese ICBMs). How many years do you think Chinese industry will take?
                        And will the countries you listed dare to go to war with nuclear China even in its present situation?
                        I strongly doubt it.
                    2. Grazdanin
                      Grazdanin 9 July 2020 10: 43 New
                      -1

                      China is already in the ring of enemies, and we are comparing the capabilities of the fleet of China and Japan. I understand the rapid pace of construction of the Chinese fleet. This is an elementary desire to protect oneself; there is not even any talk of attacking actions.
                    3. bayard
                      bayard 9 July 2020 16: 38 New
                      0
                      You brought a map of "enemies of China" ... It's funny.
                      Vietnam will NEVER go to an aggressive (proactive) war with China. All the agreements that he has are support agreements if they attack him.
                      South Korea ... not even funny.
                      NEVER. Never of free will.
                      For her, if that, and North head enough.
                      Philippines ... great military and naval power ... lol China is in awe.
                      It suits ONLY as a base for the US Navy and Air Force.
                      Located NEARBY.
                      From the war will be turned off quickly and become the new province of China. In punishment.
                      Japan remained ... But we already spoke about it.
                      If it comes to war, then it would not be a sin to recall China’s allies. wink
                      We won’t be talking about Russia - this is not our wedding, but we’ll give you hats if we go around too much.
                      S. Korea ...
                      Oops lol The second nuclear power in the region.
                      And it may well happen that in the case of the crazy conflict described by you, it is she who will deliver the first nuclear attacks on the state / states of the aggressors - on Japan FIRST.
                      smile
                      How do you like this, Elon Musk?
                      And already China will cover, support, continue.
                      And what will the United States do against an adversary equal in nuclear potential? repeat
                      Which ECONOMY is a cut above his?
                      What shop will ALL of its satellites crawl under?
                      Is the US ready for a full exchange of nuclear strikes of EQUAL forces and means? smile
                      Very entertaining rebus.
                      But China has another ally ...
                      Nuclear
                      Pakistan
                      So I wouldn’t throw hats in your place.
                      The United States has missed time to respond to China's gain.
                      They are weak and burn out in the fires of internal conflicts.
                      Russia and China are just right in raising the issue of taking the nuclear arsenals of this dying country under international control.
                      These are the realities of the current day.
                      And the rest is fantasy.

                      For example, compare the equipment of the Hussites and the SA. lol
                      And who wins this amazing war?
                      The one - whose will is harder.
                      And the SA’s weapons are the most modern - they don’t spare money.
                      ... So Japan has the most modern weapons ... Aegis, EW, SAM ... This is to your thesis about the technical superiority of Yap.
                      The Chinese have something to beat.
                      And they will beat.
                      And yapis know this.
                    4. Grazdanin
                      Grazdanin 9 July 2020 16: 52 New
                      -1
                      For some reason, Vietnam RT highlighted in red, it is by itself. From most countries, apart from bases, nothing is needed. You estimate the fleet's capacity according to the criteria of the 80s of the last century, the number of pennants, tonnage, the number of missiles means little now. A guided bomb weighing a couple of tens of kilograms launched from an UAV in the right place can make more than a few hundred kilograms of NARS. China is developing, yes, but greatly overrated. In addition to the low price, they really have nothing to offer. What is in the civilian, what is in the military sphere. Western, South Korean, Japanese equipment is created at a fundamentally higher level. I think it is worth stopping the discussion on this, we have different standards for evaluating. Thanks for the discussion!
  • Hagen
    Hagen 8 July 2020 12: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: Siberian 66
    They would take "Kukuruznika" in DOSAAF, give it to craftsmen, teach them to fold linen wings, and instead of paratroopers they stuffed RER equipment.

    "....... The Ka-31SV / Ka-35 type AWACS helicopter is included in the 1K130 helicopter complex for ground-based radar reconnaissance developed by the Nizhny Novgorod Scientific Research Institute of Radio Engineering. The main component of the complex is the helicopter itself, equipped with the L381 radar station. Some of the complex’s equipment is located inside the fuselage, and under the bottom of the carrier machine is a folding antenna sheet. In the transport position, it rises to the horizontal position and is located directly under the bottom of the fuselage. In the working position, it lowers into a vertical position and rotates around its axis ..... "
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 July 2020 13: 21 New
      +3
      What does a helicopter have to do with it? Do you understand the difference in the capabilities of the radar of an airplane and a helicopter? And the difference in the abbreviations DRLO and DRLOiU
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 8 July 2020 13: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        What does a helicopter have to do with it? Do you understand the difference in the capabilities of the radar of an airplane and a helicopter? And the difference in the abbreviations DRLO and DRLOiU


        in fact, the difference in the abbreviations DRLO and DRLOiU - was invented by our authors of news about the "not having an analogue in the world."
        Always, from the very first appearance of an AWACS aircraft - its function has always included “control”.
    2. mvg
      mvg 8 July 2020 13: 38 New
      +2
      .AIR helicopter Ka-31SV / Ka-35 type

      Outright squalor with Hokai. As for the performance characteristics of the radar, both in range and in the time of barrage. If there was a convertiplane, such as the Osprey, you could come up with something, like the Jews do on the basis of business jets.
      1. Simple
        Simple 9 July 2020 07: 44 New
        0
        The quadrotor will shake all the electronics :)
  • Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 8 July 2020 12: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Siberian 66
    I just can’t understand why we can’t do such an airplane for 30 years.

    Just the weight of our similar electronics will be able to raise a minimum of IL-76
    1. bayard
      bayard 8 July 2020 19: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Just the weight of our similar electronics will be able to raise a minimum of IL-76

      Even in the early to mid-80s, this was no longer the case.
      The Yak-44 was no different in size from the Hokkai, and if it were not for the death of the Union, in the early 90s it would have flown. With all the equipment due to him.
      And the fact that we now have so few AWACS aircraft is the evil will of responsible people. For there is every opportunity for this.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 8 July 2020 20: 06 New
        -1
        The fact that there were no questions in the 80s is even better in some respects. But this is the USSR and not the Russian Federation, the development of the military-industrial complex and microelectronics in the early 90s stopped. The Russian Federation finishes the last groundwork created in the USSR. But the west is not standing still, the progress is tremendous.
        1. bayard
          bayard 8 July 2020 20: 12 New
          0
          Now the weight component of the equipment of the AWACS aircraft is not critical at all, so during the modernization of the A-50 a lot of space and weight was freed up, thanks to which it was possible to increase the supply of portable fuel and make a recreation room for shift crew and crew members (combat control operators).
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 8 July 2020 20: 31 New
            0
            To my regret, this was achieved using foreign electronics, which is now closed.
  • iouris
    iouris 8 July 2020 15: 53 New
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    Quote: Siberian 66
    why do not we have such a plane for 30 years

    Firstly, because the history of the Russian Federation totals about 30 years.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 19: 58 New
      -1
      This is a very long time. The USSR during this time won the Second World War.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 July 2020 10: 45 New
    0
    If we discard the electronics, then all the aircraft remained in Ukraine. It’s not even a matter of the marine version .... The whole world is already actively using small and medium-sized AWACS based on commercial airliners. How will the IL-114, SSZH-100, MS-21 line appear ....... and see what “size” is suitable for our MO. Radars and brains of the right size, like, have already learned how to do it.
  • parma
    parma 8 July 2020 12: 18 New
    0
    It is a pity that we will not even be able to hold our analogue or stranger, they would be useful ..
  • novel66
    novel66 8 July 2020 12: 19 New
    +3
    I envy something ... it’s bad ..
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 8 July 2020 12: 44 New
      0
      Quote: novel xnumx
      this is bad.

      Roma hi Why do you feel bad because us this is not, or envy, that them Is there such a thing?
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 July 2020 12: 50 New
        +1
        Volodya hi Of course, what we don’t have, but to me ..
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 July 2020 12: 21 New
    -8
    If the French have a lot of grandmothers, it’s up to them to change them. Mericatos is only a joy. bully
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 8 July 2020 12: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      If the French have a lot of grandmothers, it’s up to them to change them. Mericatos is only a joy. bully


      Do you want to count the Japanese Yen? Those 13 cars will be changed to modern ones.
      Count what ...
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 July 2020 13: 49 New
        -2
        SovAr238A (Al) Today, 12:53 PM NEW
        -2
        Quote: aszzz888
        If the French have a lot of grandmothers, it’s up to them to change them. Mericatos is only a joy. bully


        Do you want to count the Japanese Yen? Those 13 cars will be changed to modern ones.
        Count what ..
        What are you?!? Cases !!! wassat And consider grandmothers yourself, even yeshks, even dolars, even tugriks with Indonesian rupees. hi
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 8 July 2020 14: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: aszzz888
          SovAr238A (Al) Today, 12:53 PM NEW
          -2
          Quote: aszzz888
          If the French have a lot of grandmothers, it’s up to them to change them. Mericatos is only a joy. bully


          Do you want to count the Japanese Yen? Those 13 cars will be changed to modern ones.
          Count what ..
          What are you?!? Cases !!! wassat And consider grandmothers yourself, even yeshks, even dolars, even tugriks with Indonesian rupees. hi


          And you try to calculate the planes at least ...
          And think about why our "partners" have almost 100 active AWACS aircraft, and we have no more than a dozen on our wing ...
          To our entire vast country.

          What will we do if a conflict arises in the Far East?

          When almost 30 AWACS aircraft will be in control of all the actions of enemy aviation there, and we will have none, and what kind of chances our aviation will have in such a confrontation with fighter aircraft ...

          Throw hats higher ... Maybe the dew will stop falling into your eyes ...
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 July 2020 14: 13 New
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            SovAr238A (Al) Today, 14:10 ... To our whole huge country.

            What will we do if a conflict arises in the Far East?
            Make yourself a dugout. At worst, open the trench, anika warrior. Adieu.
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 8 July 2020 22: 37 New
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              Quote: aszzz888
              SovAr238A (Al) Today, 14:10 ... To our whole huge country.

              What will we do if a conflict arises in the Far East?
              Make yourself a dugout. At worst, open the trench, anika warrior. Adieu.


              Another "merged" orange-general ...
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 8 July 2020 12: 43 New
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    should replace three aircraft in service with the French Navy

    Do not supplement, but replace!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 July 2020 13: 00 New
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    Macron speaks of the "brain death" of NATO, while the United States buys airborne early warning and control aircraft. Lovely scolding - only amuse.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 13: 33 New
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      You can not believe more than one word of politics.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 8 July 2020 13: 10 New
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    Hokaya has an interesting radar, it operates in the 420-460MHz range, there is nothing to put active interference in our fleet with it, only corner reflectors remain to be inflated. It’s a successful aircraft, which has been in service since 1964 and is not going to be decommissioned — it is periodically upgraded.
  • mvg
    mvg 8 July 2020 13: 33 New
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    modifications of E-2D after Japan, which ordered 13 such aircraft

    Already 2 times more than the A-50 than flies to the aerospace forces. If you add your own development, an analogue of Sentry, then somehow indecent. And this is for the many times the strongest Navy and aviation on the theater of operations. If it is against the PRC, then God is with them, and, if 1905, then the Far East must keep an eye on it. In a local conflict, there is sad.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 July 2020 10: 49 New
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      We need AWACS based on civilian cars with a normal resource. It’s just that apart from Tu204-214, it will not be able to use the RF yet. There will be airplanes, they will.
  • yfast
    yfast 8 July 2020 21: 37 New
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    You need to start with electronics, but nobody needs it.