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Sohu: China is not afraid of US aircraft carriers, and America will find the answer to Chinese missiles

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The Chinese edition of Sohu concluded that American aircraft carriers cannot scare China, but Chinese missiles are not a serious threat to the United States.


As you know, aircraft carriers are the basis of combat power fleet USA. Given the geographic remoteness of continental America from China, it is the US Navy, in the event of the prospect of a US-Chinese conflict, that has a key role to play in attacking Chinese military installations.

American aircraft carriers are constantly located in the Pacific Ocean, on board of which a large number of fighter jets are located. In fact, aircraft carriers are mobile airfields, writes Sohu. However, for China, these are just ships, which in any case can be sunk along with all the aircraft on board.

An American aircraft carrier cannot scare China, because China has weapons that can sink an aircraft carrier, and these weapons are pretty cheap,

- writes the author of Sohu.

Apparently, the Chinese leadership plans to use Dongfeng missiles to fight American aircraft carriers. The Dongfeng-21D, Dongfeng-26, and Dongfeng-17 missiles have a flight range that allows them to hit aircraft carriers and large enemy cruisers located in the Pacific Ocean in close proximity to Chinese territorial waters. They are capable of hitting mobile targets, which robs American carriers of invulnerability.

At the same time, a war between China and the United States is unlikely. First, Sohu emphasizes that both China and the United States are nuclear powers. The Chinese Dongfeng-41 missile has a range of more than 10 kilometers and can hit several American cities at once. But the US has a nuclear weapons more than China. And while Chinese submarines are capable of destroying entire American cities by launching missiles on them, the United States has a missile defense system.


Secondly, in a conventional war, without the use of nuclear weapons, the capabilities of China and the United States will be approximately the same: despite certain technical advantages, the American army is losing the Chinese in mobilization reserve, and the weapons of the People's Liberation Army of China are also developing and improving.

Third, since both China and the United States are members of the UN Security Council, a conflict between them is also unlikely. China is not Iraq or Venezuela, for which it was possible to apply the methods of political and economic blackmail. If the United States tries to unleash a war against China, such actions will not meet with the support of the international community.

It is worth adding to Sohu’s remark that the war between China and the USA will also meet with the opposition of Russia. Now China is more likely a friendly state towards Russia and an attack on it by the United States will provoke an extremely negative reaction from Moscow. Given that Russia is also a nuclear power, the United States is unlikely to want to act as a provocateur of a global nuclear war.

But this does not mean that the United States will abandon its aggressive actions against China. The war will be hybrid in nature: not rockets and aircraft carriers, but hackers, street demonstrators and economic sanctions will become genuine weapons on both sides.
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  1. barin
    barin 8 July 2020 12: 41 New
    12
    That is, between China and the United States a certain parity at sea.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 12: 48 New
      -13 qualifying.
      Only in fantasies. The Chinese fleet is weaker than the Japanese fleet, against the US Pacific fleet with no chance. If there is a conflict against the combined fleet of the USA, Japan, South Korea, the Chinese navy will be destroyed in a few days.
      1. Romka47
        Romka47 8 July 2020 12: 54 New
        +4
        You are right, on the one hand, but on the other, the entire united fleet will not attack China immediately, and China will not attack the entire fleet immediately, it seems to me if in theory they converge somewhere near China (well, not American the same coast) and he has his own shore in China, his own shore, airfields from land, all kinds of DBK
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 8 July 2020 13: 03 New
          -11 qualifying.
          Look at the map. How are Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines located? Okinawa island locations. The USA in real time knows the location of all the ships in China, right down to the boats.
      2. Guards turn
        Guards turn 8 July 2020 13: 03 New
        +4
        Yeah. The United States sent a strike group to the Korean Peninsula. But on June 6, the American squadron, as quickly as it entered, left the patrol zone near the North Korean coast.
      3. Gorecc
        Gorecc 8 July 2020 14: 05 New
        +9
        Chinese fleet is weaker than one Japanese fleet


        Do you still live in the 2000s? xs how else to explain such statements)
        without the roof of the United States, Japan is nothing in the confrontation with China. The same goes for Yuk and everyone in the region.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 8 July 2020 14: 38 New
          -6
          In the 2000s, the fleet of China and Japan was comparable; over these 20 years, Japan has made a giant leap forward. Having outstripped the British fleet, we will push its fleet to third place, now the Japanese fleet takes a confident second place after the United States.
          An interesting article on this topic, only 2nd and 3rd place changed with each other.
          https://topwar.ru/88323-reyting-silneyshih-flotov-mira.html
          1. Charik
            Charik 8 July 2020 15: 36 New
            +2
            hahaha-atomic bomb under water to blow up like the Americans and wash away this Japan, along with their boats and okinawa
            1. Gorecc
              Gorecc 8 July 2020 15: 43 New
              +8
              do not ruin his world, a person really thinks that Japan is militarily stronger than China))
          2. Gorecc
            Gorecc 8 July 2020 15: 37 New
            +7
            can you justify your allegations with unsubstantiated statements?
            The Chinese fleet is now the fastest growing in the world, even the United States does not develop as fast as the Chinese, who bake modern destroyers and frigates like pies. The Japanese certainly have a strong fleet, but in this competition with the Chinese they have nothing to catch, different weight categories. And yes, the Japanese are critically dependent on American technology in this matter.
            p / s well, but this link could not be thrown at all, where the British fleet is in second place after the United States smile excuse me, but I can’t take such garbage articles seriously)
          3. bayard
            bayard 8 July 2020 18: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: Grazdanin
            In the 2000s, the fleet of China and Japan was comparable; over these 20 years, Japan has made a giant leap forward.

            The Japanese fleet has a pronounced auxiliary character in relation to the US fleet - with sharpening on anti-aircraft defense and air defense. Plus the strength and resources for conducting limited naval landings (islands nevertheless).
      4. Charik
        Charik 8 July 2020 15: 34 New
        0
        you write great fantasies, but most likely the Japanese-Korean fleet will go to the bottom first and then the American fleet, because if the sea’s mahach begins, Russia will clearly be for China
    2. Kalmar
      Kalmar 8 July 2020 12: 55 New
      0
      Well, perhaps very conditional and, let's say, "small-town". And the real applicability of the DF-21D against aircraft carriers, as far as I know, raises certain doubts.
      1. credo
        credo 8 July 2020 14: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Kalmar
        Well, perhaps very conditional and, let's say, "small-town". And the real applicability of the DF-21D against aircraft carriers, as far as I know, raises certain doubts.

        It seems that Soha's opinion is a sheer hat-covering that has nothing to do with reality. It is not in vain that the United States is deploying its numerous military bases along the borders with China and "support" by inciting all those countries of Southeast Asia that have territorial disputes with China. The practice of unleashing wars with someone else's hands and on foreign territories in the United States is quite extensive and creating a conflict that will grow into a full-fledged war between China and neighboring countries, the United States will willingly participate in its development and causing significant damage to China and thereby neighboring countries that think themselves equal to the United States and their great friend.
  2. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 July 2020 12: 50 New
    -2
    I think an armed conflict between the United States and China may arise.
    For the status of "master of the western Pacific". am
    But it, for sure, will be conventional and without blows on the cities. Nuclear war is unprofitable for both superpowers.
    The war will come down to sea and air battles, and missile strikes without nuclear weapons.
    It is enough for America to maintain the status quo.
    But China needs the States to retreat a couple of hundred kilometers to the east.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 12: 59 New
      -14 qualifying.
      There may be a conflict over Taiwan. But for China, military conflicts with the United States are unpromising. China is surrounded by US allies. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines. The Chinese fleet has no room for maneuver; all space is shot through. In addition, only the fleet of Japan alone is more powerful than the Chinese.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 8 July 2020 13: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Grazdanin
        But for China, military conflicts with the United States are unpromising.

        ?
        Caps cast?
        laughing laughing laughing

        Quote: Grazdanin
        The Chinese fleet has no room for maneuver; all space is shot through

        And isn't the territory of the "US allies" being shot at?
      2. Gorecc
        Gorecc 8 July 2020 14: 12 New
        +5
        Listen, comrade, you live in some kind of world divorced from reality ..
        China has hundreds, if not thousands of infantry brigade, and a couple of them with special forces in some Japan or Yuk quickly sober up their hot heads and nullify all their aggression against China. But even without Yao, China has something to answer to its rivals in the region. China is forming a powerful fleet, a strong air force. At his side, he is already capable of tapping the United States and the United States. Yes, in the open ocean, the advantage of the United States is still indisputable, but in the Yukm and Vkm, not everything is so clear for the United States and allies.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 8 July 2020 14: 31 New
          -4
          All your arguments are possible in a place divorced from reality. No one will allow to concentrate the fleet and means to strike China. All movements of the fleet and army are under control, as soon as the concentration of forces in China begins, retaliatory actions begin, if necessary, destructive strikes are inflicted. From the US and allies, no one will wait for attacks on their fleet and bases, as well as from China. Leave the tonnage and counting pennants to statisticians, this has nothing to do with the real balance of power. The technical, quantitative and positional superiority in this theater of the USA with its allies is complete.
          1. Gorecc
            Gorecc 8 July 2020 15: 24 New
            +5
            No one will allow to concentrate the fleet and means to strike China


            what? China is at home, it does not need to concentrate anything, everything is close at hand there. No one said that China will go on a trip to the United States fool

            All movements of the fleet and army are under control, as soon as the concentration of forces in China begins, retaliatory actions begin, if necessary, destructive strikes are delivered.


            yes, of course, the United States will deliver a preemptive strike against a nuclear power, I believe it with pleasure ... didn’t you confuse Iraq and China for an hour? If the United States were not afraid of China, they would simply not allow the People's Republic of China to spread artificial islands and militarize Yukm. And so they just have to complain to the UN, and to arrange symbolic missions for the passage of warships near these islands. And the court decision in The Hague on the disputed islands of China is also sideways.
            By the way, from the capture of Taiwan (which is only 200 km from the mainland), China does not stop US carriers at all, but political and economic risks that this event promises. Militarily, the United States can do little to counter this. China will have a quantitative and qualitative advantage both at sea and in the air.
            The technical, quantitative and positional superiority in this theater of the USA with its allies is complete.

            very controversial statement. Well, the fact that Yuk or Japan decide to be the first to strike China is a bullshit, I think there are no kamikaze sitting there for a long time, they are well aware of how this will end for them.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 8 July 2020 16: 05 New
              -5

              US carriers are a fraction of US forces in that region and not decisive.
            2. Charik
              Charik 8 July 2020 18: 07 New
              0
              UK-even SK pisses, and where there to China
            3. Esoteric
              Esoteric 8 July 2020 18: 35 New
              +3
              And why should the US fight with China? It is only stupid who will solve controversial problems through war. People in the United States are not cogs, not CCP slaves, they are supposed to be protected. The Chinese government can afford the deaths of 50 million slaves, it is not hot and cold from this, it won’t do this in the USA.
              And as for the full-scale war, then China will take shape in weeks. There are a dime a dozen contradictions, the north wildly hates the south, give them only will. No war is needed, it is necessary to skillfully play on the contradictions of this colossus on clay feet. Divide and rule. If the United States does not have enough brains to play on it, then why not ask for help from its ancestress, they ate a dog on this. Everything is natural, as they say, IMHO.
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 8 July 2020 19: 22 New
                -2
                That's right. War is possible when one of the parties is confident in its victory or is in a hopeless situation. Until the United States creates a powerful space missile defense system, it will not fight against nuclear powers. Even if it creates a missile defense system, it’s easier to ruin the country from the inside, then you correctly noticed a huge number of problems in China, the current state is not typical for China, everyone has been blinded by the successes of the past twenty years.
          2. Charik
            Charik 8 July 2020 15: 41 New
            -1
            stop flogging nonsense about the superiority of the us over china in the military
          3. forpost
            forpost 8 July 2020 17: 46 New
            0
            "" No one will allow the concentration of the fleet and the means to strike China. "
            - I can’t imagine who can prevent him from doing this.
      3. Charik
        Charik 8 July 2020 15: 39 New
        0
        taiwan some transiki-Philippines there Duterte-about Obama see for yourself what he said and he is friends for Russia
    2. Charik
      Charik 8 July 2020 15: 38 New
      -1
      a couple of hundred meters down - crutches to the east
  3. K-50
    K-50 8 July 2020 12: 51 New
    +5
    in a conventional war, without the use of nuclear weapons, the capabilities of China and the United States will be approximately the same: despite certain technical advantages, the American army is losing the Chinese in mobilization reserve, and the weapons of the People's Liberation Army of China are also developing and improving.

    I don’t know about China, but Ping dos is weak at losses. If there are "enough" of them, peace negotiations will begin immediately. The second "Vietnam" voters will not forgive any president, whether he is a "democrat", a "republican", whether he is black or white, even with stripes and specks.
  4. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 8 July 2020 12: 54 New
    +3
    A very Chinese-written article ... Having removed the extra text, we get the following:
    - American aircraft carriers can not scare China;
    - China has weapons that can sink an aircraft carrier, and these weapons are pretty cheap;
    - American aircraft carriers, just ships, which in any case can be sunk together with all the aircraft on board;
    - Chinese submarines are capable of destroying entire American cities by launching missiles on them;
    - in a conventional war, without the use of nuclear weapons, the capabilities of China and the United States will be approximately the same: despite certain technical advantages, the American army is losing the Chinese in mobilization reserve, and the weapons of the People’s Liberation Army of China are also developing and improving;
    - China is not Iraq or Venezuela, if the United States tries to start a war against China, such actions will not meet with the support of the international community. Now everything is clear
  5. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 8 July 2020 13: 08 New
    +5
    sooner or later the conflict will be sure .. the question is only in what form)
    - as one Roman leader said, "Carthage must be destroyed." in this case, which of them is Carthage, time will tell
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 July 2020 13: 10 New
    +1
    American aircraft carriers cannot scare China, but Chinese missiles are not a serious threat to the United States.
    Hint that it would be nice to sit at the negotiating table? China is not accustomed to prolonged pressure (sanctions, duties, restrictions ...) on itself, but so far it is not fooling the United States. A possible war between the two countries with nuclear weapons will involve third countries. Does anyone need this?
  7. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 July 2020 13: 18 New
    +4
    Another technobred from Sohu
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 8 July 2020 13: 28 New
    0
    Judging by the words of the Chinese author, an aircraft carrier is such a terrible scarecrow. Well done of course, that they do not scare. The time of aircraft carriers will end soon. A $ 10 billion floating bandura is being liquidated by a penny price rocket. It seems to me that no special clashes are expected. They play with muscles.
  9. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 8 July 2020 13: 28 New
    0
    But the United States has more nuclear weapons than China.
    This suggests that Sohu is still that yellow newspaper, the use of nuclear weapons will lead to the disappearance of biological diversity on the planet and the global environmental catastrophe, including civilization, if it can be called that. And there is no difference here whether you have more or less. They have nothing to do there, and they are printing all kinds of nonsense.
  10. Cowbra
    Cowbra 8 July 2020 13: 34 New
    +2
    Well it's good that parity
  11. Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 13: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: barin
    That is, between China and the United States a certain parity at sea.

    What is the parity? In submarines - the United States is an order of magnitude larger than nuclear submarines. For aircraft carriers - all in favor of the United States. In rank 1 surface ships, the Americans are also ahead. So this is only in Sohu's fantasies can there be parity

    Quote: Kalmar
    Well, perhaps very conditional and, let's say, "small-town". And the real applicability of the DF-21D against aircraft carriers, as far as I know, raises certain doubts.

    There is even no doubt about it. The same Chinese several years ago disavowed all statements that the DF-21D missile is capable of hitting ships. Can. Only if they are in the bases, they do not move and the rocket itself hits the target, and does not fall nearby ...

    Quote: Olddetractor
    - Chinese submarines are capable of destroying entire American cities by launching missiles on them;

    especially considering the number of SSBNs in China, the range of their SLBMs and the number of American hunting boats laughing
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 14: 32 New
      -3
      It is also extremely important theater. China in the ring of enemies.
      1. forpost
        forpost 8 July 2020 17: 50 New
        0
        China has allies there.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 8 July 2020 17: 53 New
          -2
          Who is China's ally?
          1. forpost
            forpost 8 July 2020 18: 09 New
            0
            RF, DPRK, Pakistan
    2. Charik
      Charik 8 July 2020 18: 10 New
      0
      Yes, look, in case of trouble, the Americans will send all apl against China laughing , apparently you stole all the secrets from China on their missiles and how many boats and ships and planes
  12. Courier
    Courier 8 July 2020 13: 37 New
    -6
    From what point did China suddenly become a maritime power equal to the United States?
    As soon as the war begins, the Communists will publicly wash themselves in the waters of the Pacific Ocean.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 14: 39 New
      -2
      Never been and will not be in the short term.
  13. mvg
    mvg 8 July 2020 13: 42 New
    +1
    Only this author on VO can draw such an article. wassat Even quoting Sokha. Tryndets, I hope not a dull word.
  14. Bully
    Bully 8 July 2020 14: 22 New
    +2
    The Chinese edition of Sohu concluded that American aircraft carriers cannot scare China, but Chinese missiles are not a serious threat to the United States.

    If you translate from Chinese to Russian, it turns out: Carriers are a serious threat, but in contrast there are ICBMs that will not be exchanged for the destruction of aircraft carriers, but will strike the mainland of the United States. Nobody knows how many ICBMs will be intercepted, but everyone understands that the flown part will be enough for irreversible consequences. The Chinese are not as stupid as many people think.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 8 July 2020 15: 02 New
    +1
    If the United States tries to unleash a war against China, such actions will not meet with the support of the international community.

    Something the author here began to say in general phrases that do not make sense. When this international society supported the robbery in American, but it never stopped the USA!
    Now Mike Pompeo, openly admits, the Americans are interfering in Taiwan's protests. What has enthralled world society?
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    Let the stripes land on the Chinese coast, and let China defend itself. When the Americans run out, then China has won and the whole world will breathe easy.
  17. Vestovoi
    Vestovoi 8 July 2020 16: 19 New
    -4
    Well, about 10 years ago, USA’s AUGs certainly represented a threat .. And now, just as an element of presence Well, let them fight with China! This is useful for China, and it may be left behind from Russia, otherwise it has already been poisoned .. hi
    Although there is a danger of a serious conflict unleashing..It is usually before the US elections that someone is bombed .. hi
  18. Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 17: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: Bully
    The Chinese edition of Sohu concluded that American aircraft carriers cannot scare China, but Chinese missiles are not a serious threat to the United States.

    If you translate from Chinese to Russian, it turns out: Carriers are a serious threat, but in contrast there are ICBMs that will not be exchanged for the destruction of aircraft carriers, but will strike the mainland of the United States. Nobody knows how many ICBMs will be intercepted, but everyone understands that the flown part will be enough for irreversible consequences. The Chinese are not as stupid as many people think.

    For a start, it would be nice for the Chinese to test their missiles at maximum ranges. And then more than 3500-4000 km they have never experienced them. And the distance between the USA and China is at least 10 km

    Quote: Grazdanin
    yes, yes, of course, the United States will deliver a preemptive strike against a nuclear power, I believe with pleasure .. have you missed Iraq and China for an hour?

    By the way, this is one of the options for the United States in the war with China. U.S. strikes China's strategic nuclear forces to reduce retaliatory strike capabilities to such an extent that they can be intercepted by the US missile defense
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 17: 30 New
      -2
      Quote: Old26
      By the way, this is one of the options for the United States in the war with China. U.S. strikes China's strategic nuclear forces to reduce retaliatory strike capabilities to such an extent that they can be intercepted by the US missile defense

      And this strike will not be a nuclear, but a conventional weapon. China’s retaliatory nuclear strike will make it an aggressor, not the United States.
      The main task of the US military in space is to create an effective space missile defense system, in addition to marine and land. All developed countries already have laser weapons, they are several orders of magnitude more effective in space, the Boeing X-37 has been tested in space for more than 10 years, rocket launchers are getting cheaper, and the speed of preparation for launch is decreasing. SOI program at the finish line.
    2. Charik
      Charik 8 July 2020 18: 13 New
      +1
      did you see that one negro in AI did, and how many Chinese are there?
  19. Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 18: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: Vestovoi
    After all, usually before the elections in the US someone is bombed ..

    They bomb someone before the election if they only know that they can end the war before the election. If they were a serious opponent, it was only after the election. And before the choice can escalate the situation
  20. muham
    muham 8 July 2020 20: 03 New
    0
    The Chinese peacock dismissed its tail, and it would not be necessary to fight the peacock.
  21. Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 20: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Grazdanin
    Quote: Old26
    By the way, this is one of the options for the United States in the war with China. U.S. strikes China's strategic nuclear forces to reduce retaliatory strike capabilities to such an extent that they can be intercepted by the US missile defense

    And this strike will not be a nuclear, but a conventional weapon. China’s retaliatory nuclear strike will make it an aggressor, not the United States.

    The question is not who will be called the aggressor. In the event of a China-US conflict, no one will use conventional weapons. If only due to the fact that to strike with ballistic missiles from conventional BG (the Americans have no such missiles yet) on enemy missiles - the probability of defeat is close to zero. It is precisely about delivering a nuclear strike against China's strategic nuclear forces in order to "thin out" the number of ICBM launchers. Then the US missile defense has the theoretical ability to intercept the remaining Chinese ICBMs.

    Quote: Grazdanin
    The main task of the US military in space is to create an effective space missile defense system, in addition to marine and land. All developed countries already have laser weapons, they are several orders of magnitude more effective in space, the Boeing X-37 has been tested in space for more than 10 years, rocket launchers are getting cheaper, and the speed of preparation for launch is decreasing. SOI program at the finish line.

    At present, it is only theoretically possible to create an effective space missile defense system. The developed countries have laser weapons, but these weapons are currently not "combat". The maximum that a modern laser can do is to "blind" satellites. The power of the currently existing lasers is not enough to damage at least the TZP on the warhead. For this, the power must be increased by orders of magnitude. For SDI, either megawatt-class lasers, or nuclear-pumped lasers, or a laser complex consisting of a couple of tens of kilowatt lasers and a common optical system were planned there.
    The same with beam weapons or kinetic (railguns)
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 20: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Old26
      At least due to the fact that a ballistic missile strike with conventional BG

      Why ballistic missiles? The United States has enough cruise missiles, planes and ships to destroy the carriers of China's missiles. The only question is about silo-based ICBMs, whether the Concrete-bomb will break through the defense or not.
      Quote: Old26
      The developed countries have laser weapons, but these weapons are currently not "combat"

      Perhaps, while there were no tests in space, we don’t recognize. X-37 can have any of the existing weapons, the same missiles with nuclear warheads. In fact, this is a space UAV. Boeing produces 600-700 aircraft per year, SpaceX and Blue Origin promise to launch rockets every 3 days, this is without other manufacturers, i.e. to have several hundred UAVs in orbit with various weapons in orbit by 2025-30 is quite realistic. This is scary. The United States can have an extremely effective missile defense system that will protect 100% from countries like China and high protection from Russia.
      While our uriapatriots shout about US trampolines are fulfilling their plans. Clearly, the SOI affair is utopia, but something close is completely.
  22. Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 21: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Grazdanin
    Why ballistic missiles? The United States has enough cruise missiles, planes and ships to destroy the carriers of China's missiles. The only question is about silo-based ICBMs, whether the Concrete-bomb will break through the defense or not.

    Are you going to destroy enemy ballistic missiles with cruise? The locations of Chinese ICBMs are practically in the center of China. If (I repeat) if the US KR reaches the location of the Chinese ICBMs, then they will fly there for at least two hours, and maybe more. In three hours, the Chinese calculations will not only shoot their first ammunition, but will have time to reload the launcher and shoot a second, or maybe even a third time
    Will a concrete bomb penetrate a silo protection device? May be. And she will get on this protective device. And if the launcher is mobile, then what?

    Quote: Grazdanin
    Perhaps, while there were no tests in space, we don’t recognize. X-37 can have any of the existing weapons, the same missiles with nuclear warheads. In fact, this is a space UAV. Boeing produces 600-700 aircraft per year, SpaceX and Blue Origin promise to launch rockets every 3 days, this is without other manufacturers, i.e. to have several hundred UAVs in orbit with various weapons in orbit by 2025-30 is quite realistic. This is scary. The United States can have an extremely effective missile defense system that will protect 100% from countries like China and high protection from Russia.
    While our uriapatriots shout about US trampolines are fulfilling their plans. Clearly, the SOI affair is utopia, but something close is completely.

    X-37 - this, of course, can be considered an UAV, but the fact that the Boeing produces 600-700 aircraft a year is in serious doubt. In addition, the X-37 is still not a plane, but a spaceplane. And hundreds of such UAVs in orbit in 5-10 years are unrealistic
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 21: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Old26
      Are you going to destroy enemy ballistic missiles with cruise?

      Depending on where they are located, the United States has enough means of destruction. No one has yet retired from the aircraft, the B-3 is on its way. Moreover, what is the percentage of mine ICBMs? Will an order be issued to use nuclear weapons if the US does not use nuclear weapons? It is clear when the ICBMs flew, and when are these ordinary bombs? Not at all obvious. Without a land, sea, space missile defense, the United States will definitely not do this. It is necessary to hammer 0 probability of retaliatory nuclear strike.
      Quote: Old26
      Boeing produces 600-700 aircraft per year - there are big doubts.

      As if it were a fact of 2018 - 806 aircraft were built and handed over to customers, 763 aircraft in 2017. They are now in the midst of a serious crisis.

      Quote: Old26
      In addition, the X-37 is still not a plane, but a spaceplane. And hundreds of such UAVs in orbit in 5-10 years are unrealistic

      Why not? There is nothing beyond complicated, the program started in 1998, since 2010 it flies in space. All technologies worked out. Still on shuttles, in mass production I do not see insurmountable problems. In addition, this is one program that is already at the hearing, there may still be. One Boeing has more than enough production capacities, and it is the largest in the aircraft industry, but not the only one. Blue Origin and SpaceX are launching mass production of reusable rocket launchers; Boeing has certainly lagged behind, but not critically. What else is needed? Will and financing. The United States also has this. Are space forces created in vain? From cartoons, everything turned into a doable task with clear deadlines and price.
      With a great desire, 150-250 UAVs by 2030 (about 25 got excited) to keep in space is quite realistic and without straining. Weapons can be changed, the benefit is an orbital plane.
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 23: 13 New
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      X-37 - this, of course, can be considered UAV

      I forgot to mention Dream Chaser. Lockheed Martin had already put his hand to it, the case was being made.
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    Old26 9 July 2020 01: 00 New
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    Why not? There is nothing beyond complicated, the program started in 1998, since 2010 it flies in space.

    And how many such X-37s were produced under the program. Yes, autonomy is great, but what he can do - no one knows. Moreover, 150-200 such UAVs in orbit are what you need

    Quote: Grazdanin
    I forgot to mention Dream Chaser. Lockheed Martin had already put his hand to it, the case was being made.

    Well, they will make another ship, unmanned in the first stage. Why is it needed in orbit in the quality of combat?
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      Grazdanin 9 July 2020 16: 33 New
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      can do - no one knows.

      Rather, work for the future. After 2024, the United States is likely to launch its space station. There is no word on the extension of the work of the ISS. Separately, all this is not scary, when you combine everything together, the picture is not pleasant.
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      Why is it needed in orbit in the quality of combat?

      The principle in the USA is to have at least 2 independent contractors. It is impossible that there would be a monopolist.