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Kiev is going to deploy American Javelin ATGM in the Donbass

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Recently, the United States delivered a batch of Javelin ATGMs to Ukraine. Kiev is going to post a new weapon in the Donbass, arming them with brigades operating in the areas where the so-called "Anti-terrorist operation."


As you know, Ukraine received the first batch of “javelins” back in 2018, but the second batch came up with a delay, which cost US President Donald Trump dearly. Nevertheless, in the end, the American anti-tank missile systems were at the disposal of the Ukrainian army, and this time the United States allowed the use of "javelins" not only in the case of "direct Russian aggression", but also in conventional military operations in the Donbass. This was tweeted by CNN's Ryan Brown.

U.S. officials told CNN that there are no geographical restrictions as to where Ukraine can deploy US-supplied Javelin anti-tank missiles.

- stressed the journalist.

It is worth noting that the United States quite freely interprets the concept of “defensive act”, in which Ukraine is allowed to use American anti-tank systems. For example, airstrikes that were inflicted on positions of Al-Shabab militants in Somalia were also considered by the US military as “defensive acts”, as they were carried out in response to the actions of Somali militants against US government forces of Somalia and African Union states .

There is no doubt that in Ukraine we will witness the same situation: if necessary, even the offensive actions of the Ukrainian military in the Pentagon will be described as defense, in connection with which the use of “javelins” will be allowed. So, “javelins” can be used as a response to any actions of the armed forces of the Donetsk or Lugansk republics.



In any case, the appearance of American American ATGMs in Ukraine significantly enhances the firepower of AFU units located on the front lines. Joseph Trevitik, the author of The Drive, an American publication, emphasizes that military units can use these anti-tank systems in one of two modes: one launches a missile directly at the target, and the other performs a maneuver. Trevitik calls the latter method particularly effective in defeating the upper part tanks, which is the most vulnerable even with an active protection system.

However, the exact tasks to be solved by the Javelin ATGM in the Donbass are still unknown. But Colonel General Ruslan Khomchak claims that already at the next rotation of the Ukrainian units they will be equipped with “javelins”. At present, one of the army brigades is undergoing training before deployment in the Donbass, and one of the most important areas of training is considered training in the use of "javelins" in a combat situation.

Naturally, the Ukrainian command argues that it is necessary to use American anti-tank systems, since Russia allegedly deployed impressive armored forces in the Donbas and it is not possible to resist them without new anti-tank missile systems. Tales of Russian aggression in the Donbass serve to justify further supplies of American weapons. Such a line, in the end, is beneficial both to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense and to the American military department.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 8 July 2020 10: 16
    +5
    Give more trophies!
    1. Tugarin
      Tugarin 8 July 2020 10: 19
      +7
      Quote: Livonetc
      Give more trophies!

      Exactly. Will Uncle Sam allow? After all, it’ll flow away somewhere.
      1. major147
        major147 8 July 2020 10: 32
        +2
        Quote: Tugarin
        After all, it’ll flow away somewhere.

        "How many times have they told the world ....."
        If the suppliers were not alarmed by the "adventures" of three previously supplied stations to detect art batteries, one of which was "lost" and the other two were "broken", then here is a new warning:

        "Warsaw, due to problems in terms of updating the aircraft fleet, was forced to send for repair Polish MiG-29 aircraft, which had a long service life. The Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant, which is part of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies, was chosen as a contractor. Poland decided to support its ally, however, as it turned out, the Polish MiGs became hostages of Ukraine. While the planes defended before carrying out repairs, they were plundered. Valuable components containing precious metals were stolen.
        Initially, theft was discovered on the Ukrainian MiG-29MU1, which arrived at the plant for repair and modernization. It revealed the disappearance of 20 blocks.
        Subsequently, it was established that the thefts are of international scale. Similar components disappeared from other fighters belonging to foreign customers. Repair and modernization of aircraft of all customers, including Poland, has been suspended indefinitely. As a result, the Polish Air Force was left with only six aircraft of this type, which are capable of taking off, however, their resource is practically exhausted, and there are no spare parts. "
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 8 July 2020 12: 51
          -1
          This news was about a month ago and you missed a lot of things, namely: 20 blocks from one MiG-29MU1 were lost, as well as a number of blocks from 8 MiG-29 that were in storage in the repair fund, but the first plane on which they noticed the loss was MiG -29MU1, which arrived there just a month before they noticed the loss of blocks. And no one spoke about the thefts on the Polish MiG-29s, they were arrested, as well as all the rest of the plant’s property until the circumstances were clarified and they weren’t repaired, they were only prepared to be sent to one of the Polish repair contractors MiG-29. Follow the topic more.
          As for the radar, they took the radar for detecting AN / TPQ-48 mortar batteries as a trophy (we will not recall the two mythically lost from RIA Novosti), but they did not assemble a complete set, there were not enough controls, parts of blocks and interfaces, and part of the antenna the canvas was damaged. Such trophies are more suitable for research, even the performance characteristics cannot be properly checked, only look at the insides and copy. But she was already about 15 years old then, imagine that having a Zoo-1M, Russia will study, for the sake of copying, a radar developed in the late 1990s with a cut-down software without the possibility of adjusting its own mortars.
          You would know all about this if you were more interested in the topic. Read verified sources, not RIA Novosti and further down the list and do not mislead people.
          1. major147
            major147 8 July 2020 18: 24
            -1
            Quote: Holgerton
            Follow the topic more.

            Quote: Holgerton
            You would know all about this if you were more interested in the topic. Read verified sources, not RIA Novosti and further down the list and do not mislead people.

            You probably did not carefully read my post, I did not ask you for advice and did not ask "what should I do"?
            You won’t say what to do, .... well, then you remember.
            1. Holgerton
              Holgerton 8 July 2020 19: 11
              +1
              You probably read your post inattentively, because no one asked you to write a post only knowing the topic superficially, gossip is born.
              Well then, you know, someone loves his ego, more than objectivity.
              1. major147
                major147 8 July 2020 22: 14
                0
                Quote: Holgerton
                Nobody asked you to write

                Do you own the truth on this issue? Have you personally seen everything you told us about? And yet, if you can of course, publish a request by responding to which you published your post .....
                1. Holgerton
                  Holgerton 9 July 2020 08: 30
                  0
                  Unfortunately, unlike you, I don’t own the true one, nor do your all-seeing eyes, but I possess the extremely rare ability to use Google in our time, which for you, apparently, is something incomprehensible.
                  And yet, if you can of course, publish a request by responding to which you published your post .....

                  Your passing to someone else's delirium will pass for a request? Indeed, why read the original news of local media (Google even made a translator for this), the main thing is to read the horns that will tell you everything correctly. I supplemented your inaccuracies, but you still continued to defend inventions. I don’t like it when they try to pass off fortune-telling stories to the media of first instance, but everything is fine for you, you don’t have to worry about it, the main thing is not to read the Echo of Moscow and Rain.
                  On this I say goodbye to you, there is no desire to communicate with such toxic characters.
                  1. major147
                    major147 9 July 2020 09: 22
                    0
                    But what about the argument in which truth is born !?
                    Quote: Holgerton
                    I supplemented your inaccuracies, but you still continued to defend inventions.

                    Can you see an example of my "defending" ..?

                    Quote: Holgerton
                    Your flow to delirium

                    How do you decide what is "nonsense" and what is not? After all, you are not an eyewitness to events, but only rely on someone else's story about them, choosing a storyteller according to one principle you know.

                    Quote: Holgerton
                    most importantly Echo of Moscow and Rain do not read.

                    I already wrote to you, on giving instructions from the height of your conceit and ... will not be sent.

                    Quote: Holgerton
                    no desire to communicate with such toxic characters.

                    Rather meticulous. I will make you answer for your every word! Well, a person who is not responsible for his words, you yourself know who!
        2. your1970
          your1970 8 July 2020 16: 37
          +1
          Quote: major147
          MiG-29MU1, who arrived at the plant for repair and modernization. Disappearance found on it 20 blocks.
          -that is, almost all the electronics were cut clean ....
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 8 July 2020 13: 50
        -2
        Give more trophies! - And will Uncle Sam allow?

        - who will ask him ?!
        Ukrovoyaki-they also offer themselves ... to buy ...
        - For them, ATO is just a business!
      3. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 8 July 2020 18: 40
        -1
        I think that in the near future they will not appear in the Donbass. Mattresses will only be allowed to use them to repel Russian aggression. And before that, they will be stored at the Yavorov landfill under the protection of mattress instructors.
        1. Stalllker
          Stalllker 10 July 2020 00: 23
          -1
          That's just mattresses and I know that there is no Russian aggression
    2. private person
      private person 9 July 2020 13: 53
      -1
      Give more trophies!

      Do not speak op until you jump over. It’s better to ask the LDNR tankers how such news is to them. And then shout Hurray.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 10 July 2020 00: 25
        -1
        Yes, I think they don’t make much difference, as if APU hadn’t used other ATGMs before
        1. private person
          private person 10 July 2020 20: 45
          -1
          as if APU other ATGM before

          Every now and then the entot "Dzhevalin" will get it in the shelter, it can fly into the tower from above.
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 10 July 2020 20: 56
            -1
            Yah?!)))))
            1. private person
              private person 11 July 2020 10: 32
              -1
              Yes, I think they don’t make much difference.

              When you sit at home on your sofa at home, of course, there’s no difference.
              1. Stalllker
                Stalllker 11 July 2020 12: 43
                -1
                If a soldier "went to war", then he is ready to die, and if not, then sit on the couch and sing exactly
                1. private person
                  private person 11 July 2020 15: 52
                  -1
                  If a soldier "went to war", then he is ready to die

                  Did he even serve? Ready to die? All these are just words and not one soldier is not ready and does not want to die. It’s penniless for the soldier who goes to war to die, the soldier is the protector and he goes first to defend and not die.
                  1. Stalllker
                    Stalllker 11 July 2020 18: 34
                    -1
                    For my country, I’m ready to die in the war, if fate happens. I’m definitely not going to sit on sofas and behind my backs
  2. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 8 July 2020 10: 17
    -1
    Oops Holy Javelins! (from.)
    How long did they swallow ....
  3. antivirus
    antivirus 8 July 2020 10: 19
    -3
    Javelins in the Donbass? -good news - Kiev and Kharkov directions are free for the Buryat armored cavalry
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 July 2020 10: 22
    +1
    Buy Javelin, expensive. Payment immediately upon delivery to the border to Russia.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 13
      +4
      Quote: tralflot1832
      . Payment immediately upon delivery to the border to Russia.

      I will pay extra. Right to the house.
      And so that in the original packaging
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 July 2020 11: 17
        +1
        We are waiting for when they swell grandiose, we’ll agree for a sober bum. KSA, thanks for the business idea!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 23
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Thanks for the business idea!

          Read more.
          Change the packaging to a brighter one, instead of jewels in the packaging of the logs and exchange for other jeweins.
          On bright packaging will lead
  5. Poetry
    Poetry 8 July 2020 10: 23
    +3
    I wonder how much they will sell dill to fighters from the DNR-LNR.
    1. KCA
      KCA 8 July 2020 11: 03
      +7
      The cost of the kit is about $ 200, but, I think, in a state when the "pipes are burning", they can also dump
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 July 2020 13: 39
        +2
        Quote: KCA
        The cost of the kit is about $ 200, but, I think, in a state when the "pipes are burning", they can also dump

        Then for 200 bucks you can conspire.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 11
      +2
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      I wonder how much they will sell dill to fighters from the DNR-LNR.

      Can arrange an auction
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 8 July 2020 11: 12
        +4
        .. or exchange for fat.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 14
          +2
          Quote: Poetiszaugla
          .. or exchange for fat.

          Fat without vodka that the groom without a bride laughing
          1. Poetry
            Poetry 8 July 2020 11: 18
            +2
            Thu! What about yak? That and the urge of isho, zvirhu.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 24
              +1
              Quote: Poetiszaugla
              Thu! What about yak? That and the urge of isho, zvirhu.

              - Mykola, do you know how they masked their name?
              - Yak?
              -Piiivo
              - I would kill !!!
              1. Poetry
                Poetry 8 July 2020 11: 26
                +2
                It is better to be a Muscovite and a quilted jacket than a moral hoopoe.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: Poetiszaugla
                  Better to be a Muscovite and a padded jacket,

                  And I am from birth Muscovite and quilted jacket. And also a colorado.
                  But I don’t kiss the banderlogs and I don’t obey the State Department and phishington
                  1. Poetry
                    Poetry 8 July 2020 11: 34
                    +2
                    I am the same as I am proud of. And they stand in a knee-elbow position in front of Uncle Sam, which they boast of. Such a metamorphosis with the non-brothers.
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: Poetiszaugla
                      And they stand in a knee-elbow position in front of Uncle Sam, which they boast of.

                      1. Poetry
                        Poetry 8 July 2020 11: 42
                        +2
                        That's how you can rot in some 30 years. Once they sober up, but the hangover will be severe. Ugh on them ...
                      2. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 8 July 2020 11: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: Poetiszaugla
                        . Once they sober up

                        We will not see this anymore. Already the second generation is growing
    3. Stalllker
      Stalllker 10 July 2020 00: 26
      0
      No, fawn))
  6. tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 8 July 2020 13: 51
    +1
    I wonder how much they will sell dill to fighters from the DNR-LNR.

    - depends on the degree of the hangover ...
  • fn34440
    fn34440 8 July 2020 10: 30
    +1
    At the prompting of American crap, now, Russia is simply obliged to arm the Taliban with Needles and Cornets.
    In response to arming ukrookkupantov Donbass.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 8 July 2020 14: 00
      0
      At the prompting of American crap, now, Russia is simply obliged to arm the Taliban with Needles and Cornets.

      - and another worm! - an earthworm! - "T90 - with an active KAZ" and these, like them - Tosochki ...
      8-))
      - after all, a "javelin" can only use an OPEN (!) located "living force".
      One volley of one sock - and 200 x 200 meters - is free of any living power.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 8 July 2020 10: 35
    0
    At first they assured themselves of the superiority of their army over wadded Russia, then the Americans put the Javelins and boats Mark for something there, but new ... What do you think - what is the next step for the freedom-loving non-brotherly Ukraine? Sorry for the populist question. The main thing is when and to which event they will coincide.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 12: 08
      0
      Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      What do you think - what is the next step for freedom-loving non-brotherly Ukraine?

      If you were presented with a gun, then in order to shoot from it, and not so that it hangs on the wall.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 8 July 2020 10: 48
    -1
    And this is an idea, all the same rubbish (which they certainly drive drunken banderlogs) does not need, but he is dear, they will sell themselves to the side and buy something suitable like a cornet.
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 8 July 2020 10: 52
    +1
    However, the exact tasks to be solved by the Javelin ATGM in the Donbass are still unknown.

    If you do not enrich those whom they fall into the hands of, then there is no point in them. It would not make sense for us to rub it on the minefields, but ... Do not overcome the Wall of Yaytsenyuk to our tanks!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 July 2020 11: 16
    0
    Want a Javelin? Get it, just continue the civil war. When a capricious child finally gets the toy he needs, he will surely break it and start asking for a new one, but more expensive. In this situation, the rich u.rods give handouts to the farm poverty that has gone crazy on Russophobia so that it tries to keep the neighboring state in suspense.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 8 July 2020 11: 33
    +2
    "post", write off and ..... then look for fistulas, where will they actually be ???
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2020 12: 05
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      "post", write off and ..... then look for fistulas, where will they actually be ???

      Something in Lao PDR, something in Syria or in Nigeria.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 July 2020 12: 33
        0
        Remember now about the cunning warrant officers from Krajina, this is pf-e. There are now "businessmen" with wider shoulder straps, this is a well-known fact.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 8 July 2020 13: 36
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Now remember about the cunning warrant officers from Krajina, this is pf-e.

          Two such ensigns worked for me, they were even turned out of the Krajina army, the figures were still those who had eyes and eyes behind them. But I had to remove, so that I wouldn’t make trouble. Everywhere managed to excel.
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 8 July 2020 14: 03
      +1
      then look, fistulas, where will they actually be ???

      - So the fire was ... this ... in the warehouse.
      Didn’t you know? Lightning-straight bam - and all-everything burned down.
      And nothing can be done about it - Element!
      Nature ... ukrovoyak ...
      8-))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 July 2020 16: 14
        0
        Fire is really an "out of control" element!
  • Xenofont
    Xenofont 8 July 2020 11: 53
    +1
    Through "obscene Minsk" the Guarantor made a sacred sacrifice out of Donbass, for people who die every day are a function, a material in the construction of an incomprehensible system of relations with enemy partners.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 July 2020 11: 54
    0
    Kiev is going to deploy American Javelin ATGM in the Donbass

    Kiev can deploy something? Or can he decide on his own?
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 July 2020 12: 03
    -2
    And the Kremlin is playing in the unprincipled.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 8 July 2020 12: 04
    0
    Such a line, in the end, is beneficial to both the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense and the US military.
    Everyone got their rollback, who is more and who is less. Who guess yourself.
  • Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 8 July 2020 12: 09
    -2
    Haha Dumb dill. Trophies for the DNI. They will drink at the bar.

    From the side it is certainly funny.
    It would be necessary to put these idiots in the T-72 and send them to the demarcation line under the sights of the Javas. Let's see how they will laugh in such conditions.
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 July 2020 16: 42
      0
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      It would be necessary to put these idiots in the T-72 and send them to the demarcation line under the sights of the Javas. Let's see how they will laugh in such conditions.
      - well, in principle, it’s been known since 1944-45 (from the Faustniks) - only with infantry escort, having previously suppressed possible centers of resistance by artillery fire
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 8 July 2020 12: 17
    0
    While the homing head is cooling, the tank can shoot the entire ammunition and leave. a purely sabotage weapon, unsuitable for defense, for casting with saboteurs, is not accurate - instead of Donbass it can fly somewhere to the Emirates.
  • Old26
    Old26 8 July 2020 14: 42
    +1
    Almost continuous hooray. About fat, about beer, about jokes and rumors, except for one thing - to think with your brain how much trouble it will bring to the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR. Ugh, it’s not a military resource - but a bunch of clowns and fools who poke at the buttons, sitting thousands of kilometers from the place where they can be used by both fighters and civilians. But the pluses are covering my eyes am
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 July 2020 16: 27
      -2
      At least the same Strelkova would have listened to what the balance of power is now there. The very first serious political crisis in Russia will lead to the end of the DPR and LPR, and these regions may give up in exchange for buns. Ukraine is now stopped only by the threat of entering the Russian army.